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Conference yukon::christian_v7

Title:The CHRISTIAN Notesfile
Notice:Jesus reigns! - Intros: note 4; Praise: note 165
Moderator:ICTHUS::YUILLEON
Created:Tue Feb 16 1993
Last Modified:Fri May 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:962
Total number of notes:42902

773.0. "LOVES LIGHT" by CHEFS::PRICE_B (Ben Price) Mon Aug 14 1995 10:03

 "By this shall all men know that you belong to me if you have love one for 
 another"
 
 "I am not writing a new command but one we have had from the beginning. I ask 
 that we love one another"
 
 "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is 
 not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, 
 it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices 
 withh the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always 
 perseveres. Love never fails"
 
 I think it's time that some christians in this conference were reminded of 
 the basic rule of their faith - LOVE. I've never seen such a bad witness as 
 I've seen in here in recent weeks. Every time I log into this conference I am 
 subjected to reading a heap of mud slinging notes between brothers and 
 sisters and I am fed up with it (and I'm sure the Lord is too!!). If the love 
 shown by some in here reflects Gods love to the unsaved who come into this 
 conference then it's no wonder people don't want to know God. Paul says  
 "When I was a child I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned 
 like a child. When I became a man I put childish ways behind me" and I think 
 it's about time some people put childish ways behind them and started to 
 realise the responsibility they have in this conference. This is a public 
 conference which anyone can look into and see what chrisitanity is all about. 
 If all they see is a slanging match then they will simply do an about-turn 
 and vow never to bother again.
 
 Love accepts the different opinions that others have and should only push 
 its view if it has a loving concern that someone is being deceived. 
 
 I call on you all to assess your witness in this place and to assess the 
 state of your love for everyone else in this conference. We are told to love 
 even our enemies, this is the basic lesson that comes before all other 
 theological concerns and if you can't pass the first stage then don't bother 
 trying to preach the second stage!!!!!!!
 
 Love
 Ben
 
   
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773.1PAULKM::WEISSFor I am determined to know nothing, except...Mon Aug 14 1995 13:3534
It's been stressing me, too, Ben.  For the most part I've tried to NEXT
UNSEEN past it, but it's been really thick lately.

I think that a big portion of what is happening is that the actions of a few,
while not at all intended by them as such, are perceived as attacking Christ
by many here.  If we really believe that Christ was the very creator of all
that is, incarnated in human flesh, then we can't argue with him about the
nature of reality.  To even describe the situation of arguing with our
creator about what is true presents a ridiculous picture.  When our view of
reality and His view of reality conflict, ours is always the one that is
wrong.  We have to constantly seek to mold ourselves in His likeness, not the
other way around.

So when, to pick one example, Jesus clearly had a great reverence for
Scripture, proclaiming that not a stroke of the pen of it would be removed,
we have to come to grips with the fact that the creator of the universe said
that, and modify our view of reality accordingly.  When someone attacks that
view, it is perceived as an attack on Christ himself.  There are several such
issues.

And unfortunately, our response is often the response of Peter in the garden
of Gethsemane, when the soldiers came to attack Jesus - Peter immediately
leapt up, sword in hand, and attacked those who attacked Jesus, cutting off
someone's ear.

Let those of us who perceive ourselves to be defending Christ by attacking
those who are attacking Him remember Christ's rebuke to Peter "Enough of
this! Put away your sword, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."

And let those who have been attacked by members here, remember that though
Christ rebuked Peter and healed the servant's ear, that was not a validation
of the servant's actions - the servant *was* still attacking Jesus.

Paul
773.2Thanks BenYIELD::BARBIERIMon Aug 14 1995 14:1122
  Hi Ben,

    That is wise counsel Ben.

    I recognize that I have often been one who has not represented Christ
    nearly as well as I should have.

    My zeal has almost always been in the area of where I felt a doctrinal
    position badly misrepresents a right understanding of God's character,
    BUT even in spite of this that is no excuse for some of my inputs.
    By this I mean there is eventually a time to stop and let the Spirit
    convict.  To recognize I can do no more.

    To all you Conference participants and especially you read-onlies:

    I apologize for any way I have injured any of you and ask forgiveness.

    Thanks Ben.

						God Bless You All,

						Tony
773.3Amen!CSC32::KINSELLAMon Aug 14 1995 19:2813
    
    I think my current memory verse is one that I will start praying
    for all participants of this conference as it is my prayer for myself
    as well.
    
    Philippians 1:9-10
    
    And this is my prayer for you: that your love may abound more and
    more in knowledge and depth of insight so that you may be able to
    discern what is best and may be pure and blameless until the day
    of Christ.
    
    Jilla
773.4BBQ::WOODWARDC...but words can break my heartMon Aug 14 1995 22:091
    amen
773.5ICTHUS::YUILLEHe must increase - I must decreaseTue Aug 15 1995 08:303
Thanks Jill .... appreciated.

							Andrew
773.6JULIET::MORALES_NASweet Spirit's Gentle BreezeTue Aug 15 1995 14:581
    Amen... and thanks Ben.