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Conference yukon::christian_v7

Title:The CHRISTIAN Notesfile
Notice:Jesus reigns! - Intros: note 4; Praise: note 165
Moderator:ICTHUS::YUILLEON
Created:Tue Feb 16 1993
Last Modified:Fri May 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:962
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523.0. "Study in blindness and sight" by TOKNOW::METCALFE (Eschew Obfuscatory Monikers) Thu Jul 14 1994 16:59

Last night at prayer meeting we read the following passage (among others):

Luke 18:34  And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid
from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.
 35  And it came to pass, that as he was come nigh unto Jericho, a certain
blind man sat by the way side begging:
 36  And hearing the multitude pass by, he asked what it meant.
 37  And they told him, that Jesus of Nazareth passeth by.
 38  And he cried, saying, Jesus, thou son of David, have mercy on me.
 39  And they which went before rebuked him, that he should hold his peace:
but he cried so much the more, Thou son of David, have mercy on me.
 40  And Jesus stood, and commanded him to be brought unto him: and when he
was come near, he asked him,
 41  Saying, What wilt thou that I shall do unto thee? And he said, Lord,
that I may receive my sight.
 42  And Jesus said unto him, Receive thy sight: thy faith hath saved thee.
 43  And immediately he received his sight, and followed him, glorifying God:
and all the people, when they saw it, gave praise unto God.

Jesus had a few people following his teaching and his ministry who had
a bit of trouble understanding, comprehending, or seeing what Jesus 
was driving at.  This is not Jesus' lack of communicativeness, but rather
the inability for the people to receive the communications.  (Some electronic
deviced these days will pick up radio, TV, and police band wavelengths, and
some will only pick up certain wavelengths.)  There's a whole topic about
this in and of itself, but I want to focus on this poor begger who was
blind.

The end of the story is not that this man received sight where he was blind.
Indeed, we do not know the end of the story but we can certainly know that
this beggar was out of a job.  Receiving sight (and understanding) requires
one to change their lifestyle.  Begging could be a lucrative and fairly
comfortable practice.  Many Jews went daily to the temple and assuaged their
consciences with the law and good fortune by giving alms to the poor and 
beggars with "handicaps."  Looking at it from the outside, we would think
that any blind person would want to see, which makes Jesus question seem
ludicrous.  "What do you want me to do?"

Jesus causes the blind man to articulate his desire.  Perhaps the blind man
did not realize all that this would mean to him.  He'd have to be out 
looking for a new line of work.  The man responds "Lord, I want to see." (NIV)
Jesus says, "Sure.  Your faith has healed you."

Stop the bus.  What faith?  This is a beggar looking for a handout, isn't
he?  Back up a few verses and see that this man calls out to "Jesus, Son
of David" (a term for Messiah, I think) which at the very least, he knows 
that this man, Jesus, has worked miracles.  And he believes that well enough
to not be stifled by the crowd, insisting on Jesus taking notice.  And 
examining the attitude in which this beggar insists, we see that he is 
clamoring: "have mercy!"  He has already come to understand his darkness,
his blindness, and realizes that he will remain miserably in this darkness
unless mercy is shown to him.

Now, do you think it was happenstance that Luke put these two events together
such that as Jesus predicts his death (in verses 31-34) that on his way
to his death, he stops to grant sight to a beggar who realizes his blindness
and calls out for sight?
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There is a whole lot more about sight, seeing, blindness (both willful
and circumstantial) that I want to bring out in this string.  Your comments
are welcome.  Expect more, too.  8-) (eyes wide open!)

Mark
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523.1Blind Man Healed In StagesYIELD::BARBIERIThu Jul 14 1994 21:3320
      Hi Mark,
    
        There's another one that I think is really neat.  I don't
        have my Bible handy, but its the story of the blind man
        who seems to receive his sight a little gradually.  Jesus
        smeared dirt and saliva on his eyes and asked what he saw
        and the man said he saw trees that looked like people (or
        people that looked like trees - something like that).  Then
        He asked again what the man saw and the man said, "I can see!!"
    
        Right after this, Jesus asks His disciples who He is.  Peter
        says "You are the Christ."  Jesus then mentions that He will 
        have to die.  Peter says no and Jesus says "Get thee behind 
        Me Satan!"
    
        In other words, Peter could see the Christ, but not clearly.
        The seeing of Christ and who He is and what He is all about is
        a gradual process as was the blind man's ability to see.
    
                                                   Tony
523.2TOKNOW::METCALFEEschew Obfuscatory MonikersFri Jul 15 1994 14:4174
  In the passage in Luke, the blind man wanted to see.  At first glance,
  this might sound odd; certainly anyone who is blind wants to see.  But
  not everyone who is blind perceives their own blindness.

    Matthew 23:24  Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow
    a camel.
  
    John 9:40-41  "And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard
    these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also? Jesus said unto
    them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We
    see; therefore your sin remaineth."

  Here, Jesus is speaking to the religous leaders; people who should know,
  and in some cases, do know (and see) yet continue to act as if they were
  blind.  This applies to others beside religious leaders, too, who "strain
  the gnat," picking at a semantic and deliberately missing the point. This
  is willful blindness and Jesus uses very strong terms for those who are
  willingly blind.

  Next:

    John 3:3; 11-12  Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I
    say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom
    of God. Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know,
    and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I
    have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye
    believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

  One of the requirements for spiritual sight is being "born again." And to
  become born again, you must believe and have faith.  To much of the
  spiritually blind, this is nonsense and circular.  They read this as "in
  order to believe, you must believe" and they would not be too far off the
  mark, because belief is the FIRST STEP, just as the union of sperm and
  egg unite into the first cell.  Belief, like that first cell, is provided
  half by the person and half by the Holy Spirit giving the chromosomes
  necessary for life.

  The Holy Spirit's promptings the free will of the creature must unite to
  possess belief.  Without the prompting of the Holy Spirit, who testifies
  of the Truth of Jesus Christ a person cannot believe.  Blasphemy of the
  Holy Spirit (the unpardonable sin) is that point which the Holy Spirit is
  offended not to return, and without the help of the Holy Spirit, a
  person is utterly lost and without recourse; unpardonable.  

  Because of free will, God will not force us to believe, or force us to
  love him.  If we do so, we will choose the life He has set before us; the
  Truth to which He has testified.

  In John 3, Jesus is speaking to Nicodemus, a teacher of the law who seems
  to be sincerely seeking some answers, yet something has held him back
  from committing to belief.  In Acts 26:28  "Then Agrippa said unto Paul,
  Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian."  Almost.

  Jesus starts with the basics: earthy things, "and ye believe not." Jesus
  cannot proceed to tell a person of heavenly things if the basics are not
  first understood.  Unless the FIRST STEP of belief is engaged, the rest
  of it also sounds like nonsense.  (When perceived reality is different
  than actual reality, the preceived reality is just as real and takes
  precedence UNTIL actual reality is imposed (if ever).)

    Mark 9:23-24  Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things
    are possible to him that believeth. And straightway the father of the
    child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine
    unbelief.

  Here, it seems, the Holy Spirit is willing to come more than half way.
  In other words, complete belief is not required, but SOME belief is 
  necessary; the rest will come as we grow in grace and knowledge of the
  Truth (the new and actual reality).

  More to come.

  Mark
523.3TOKNOW::METCALFEEschew Obfuscatory MonikersFri Jul 15 1994 15:0670
.1 Tony

Mark 8
 17  And when Jesus knew it, he saith unto them, Why reason ye, because ye
have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart yet
hardened?
 18  Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not
remember?
 19  When I brake the five loaves among five thousand, how many baskets full
of fragments took ye up? They say unto him, Twelve.
 20  And when the seven among four thousand, how many baskets full of
fragments took ye up? And they said, Seven.
 21  And he said unto them, How is it that ye do not understand?
 22  And he cometh to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind man unto him, and
besought him to touch him.
 23  And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and
when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he
saw ought.
 24  And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking.
 25  After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up:
and he was restored, and saw every man clearly.


One of the other interesting things about this passage is that Jesus heals
the blind man in this way.  Other blind men were healed on the spot without
this type of treatment.  Another blind man had mud and spittle applied to
his eyes and Jesus told him to go and wash in a specific pool.  Why the 
different ways of healing?  Was there a common thread to Jesus' healings?
If so, what was it?

In another passage, the disciples ask about a blind man.

John 9:1  And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his
birth.
  2  And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or
his parents, that he was born blind?
  3  Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that
the works of God should be made manifest in him.

Matthew 11
  2  Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two
of his disciples,
  3  And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for
another?
  4  Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things
which ye do hear and see:
  5  The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are
cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the
gospel preached to them.

Although each individual receives healing individually, the healings are 
a testimony of God's grace and love towards us.  In many cases, Jesus was
moved with compassion to heal, but always did He heal for the glory of God.
For the individual, there may be a graduated healing, as Tony suggests.
Jesus said that some demons don't come out except by prayer and fasting;
gradations of effort and results.

More than these physical healings of blindness, I find it extremely interesting
that Jesus speaks about the blindness of sighted people, even and especially
his inner circle - the ones who would carry the message of the gospel.  Yet,
they believed in Jesus ("Thou are the Christ, the Son of the Living God.").
Although uneducated, they were willing to receive their spiritual sight and
wanted it very much, and as they prayed and fasted, when they were all in 
one accord in the upper room, the promised Holy Spirit came to each of them
and they were changed from the dull-headed fishermen and tax-collectors to
giants who turned the world on its ear.

Grant me sight, Lord.  I want to see!

Mark
523.5TOKNOW::METCALFEEschew Obfuscatory MonikersFri Sep 02 1994 16:5327
>  The Holy Spirit's promptings [and] the free will of the creature must unite to
>  possess belief.  Without the prompting of the Holy Spirit, who testifies
>  of the Truth of Jesus Christ a person cannot believe.  Blasphemy of the
>  Holy Spirit (the unpardonable sin) is that point which the Holy Spirit is
>  offended not to return, and without the help of the Holy Spirit, a
>  person is utterly lost and without recourse; unpardonable.  
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	I believe that the above is not the correct interpretation because
    	the Bible says:
    
	"Verily I say unto you, all sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of
	men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
	But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost has never 
	forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: because they
	said, he has an unclean spirit."
						( Mark 3:28-30 KJV )

		Thus, they were calling the Holy Spirit working with and in
	Jesus a demon.
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I see no incongruency between the Scripture and what I have stated.
At what point is the Holy Spirit offended not to return, Greg?

I believe you have not understood what was written.

Mark