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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

230.0. "Fish'n Shows" by TORCH::MACINTYRE (Life's great, then u live forever.) Mon Jan 12 1987 12:49

 
    I figure this note can serve as a place for comments on all the
    fishing shows that are on cable nowadays.
    
    Did anyone else cathc Billy Westmoreland and ???? (the guy who runs
    Northeastern Bass Supply) bass'n for smallmouth on Winnipesaukee
    this past weekend??
    
    Felt good seeing some yankee water for a change!
    
    There's a bunch on nowadays, BASSmasters, Billy Westmorland, Roland,
    Orlando, Jimmy Houston, Fish'n Hole, Bill Dance, etc, etc...
    
    Helps the winter go by!			Don Mac
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230.1"Tube Fishing Reveiw"BIGALO::BLUM_EDWed Jan 14 1987 16:4274
    
I'll lead off with a bit o offhand general commentary on the "fishing shows"
Ive seen on cable....just to save you wear on the remote..:^). 
    
"Bassmasters" (NASH): True Tournament competition, a bit to much talking
             and not enuf fishing buts its interesting to see Roland
             win! Good if "wheel of fortune" is not on.

"Fishing with Roland Martin" (WTBS/TEMPO): Fun and interesting...Roland
             doesnt just haul em in in but also tells how any why he
             fishes where he does with what he does. Roland is the best 
             "personality" of the bunch. Roland also fishes for things
             other than Bass...which adds some variety to his show. One of 
             the better ones.
    
"Bill Dance Outdoors" (WTBS/Others): Bill also gives the hows and whys of
             his fishing as well, uses modern equipment but has the personality
             of...well..of a ...well a catfish???...Carp???
    
"Billy Westmoreland": Havent seen this guy yet.                   

"Fishing with Virgil Ward" (Everywhere): Set default ==Bill Dance with
            more talking and less fishing. Lots of old footage with
            antiquated equipment, some pretty lousy footage included.
            Watch Roland instead.        

"Salt water journal with Mark Solsin"(PBS): Good stuff for anyone, especially
            salt freaks, this guy goes from sticking charley tuna to blues to
            bones on the flats....my personal favorite even tho I dont fish
            salt. Technically excellent.    

"Fish Hole with Jerry McKinnis" (ESPN): Good show with lots of variety, 
            warmwater, coldwater, salt...Good Ol Jerry fishes em all. Lots
            of info to be gleaned if you listen to Jerries guides. Good
            fishing footage everyweek. A bit too much scenery and singing
            but its a hour long so 10 minutes of junk is tolerable. Jerry 
            does have one fault and that is the way he handles all his
            fish like their dead even when he plans to return them. Most 
            forgettable scene of Jerry with his hand stuffed in the gills
            of a 8 lb Steelhead while he bluthered on about the value of 
            catch and release to protect the resource. The guide had this 
            most odd look on his face as well, and tryed to handle the rest
            of the fish landed himself!!!!

There is one other, which features footage from the early sixties and
being fimed in 16 MM it is really bad....is on ESPN at 6:30 sometimes..
Dan Rather is more interesting.     
    
Hey..that sums up my opinion of TV fishing....some good, some bad, some
ugly.    

                                               76 and counting!!
    
                                                   Ed    
    
    
"Country Sportsman" (NASH): Sing a song, catch a fish, sing a song,
           tell a joke, we're good ol boys, end of show..dont bother witgh
           this one..watch "wheel of fortune" instead.        

"In Fisherman" (WTBS/TEMPO): Excellent, primary oriented to the midwest
           as is the Magazine, but lots of variety and good tips for all. Good
           photography as well.            

"Rod and Reel" (PBS): Very good for those who fish downriggers and cannon
          balls and engage in heavy trolling. Much discussion of methods
          used but not a whole lot of why they are used.

"Rod and Reel Streamside" (PBS): Good honest fishing with someone who
         apparently didnt know a hoot and is willing to learn. Oriented
         to stream and river fishing in particular. Lots of action and
         enthusiastic "OHWOW"'ing.          

    
230.2Don't Forget Orlando......TORA::SCHOLZRon....and thanks for all the fishWed Jan 14 1987 17:2143
    Ed's review is pretty much on the mark as I see it. I watch most
    of the shows dealing with fishing, but concentrate on the fresh
    water ones by Roland, Bill, B.A.S.S., and one that Ed didn't mention,
    Fishing with Orlando Wilson. My opinion of this one is pretty high.
    He varies his fishing, but most of it is for bass, as is Bill and
    Roland, and he spends a good portion of the show talking about the
    lures and how to use them and most important, when to use them.
    He talks struture and current and time of the year, along with the
    weather. Good show that doesn't repeat the same thing over and over.
    One big plus with Orlando is he fishes the Northeast at least twice
    a year. So we can some data on our backyard and not see Roland pulling
    in all those huge Fla. bass, making me wish I had never left.
    
    As an aside, did any of you catch last weeks show where he was fishing
    a Fla. farm pond (with special permission you and I couldn't get
    if we tryed) and hooked a HUGE bass. He actually stopped fishing
    right there and then and took off to weigh the monster, estimated
    by him to be over 13 lbs and the biggest fish he had ever caught
    on his T.V. show in 15 years. Sort of a neat way to end his show.
    
    Back to the T.V. shows. B.A.S.S. has the real potential to be good.
    They have their expert giving pointers on some lure or struture
    or other technique every week. I do wish they would show a little
    more of the pros doing it, rather than all the weigh-ins and
    meaningless interviews they do. I mean, the guy never really says
    a thing worthwhile for fear (I think) that someone may over hear
    him, and get an advantage. But that not withstanding, it is the
    best show to get a look at the pros and see them do their thing.
    
    Now I like Jerry and expecially what he is doing with an hour show.
    It would be nice if more of the shows could get this kind of air
    time. His "Special Olympics" last year was really great. Seeing
    him and all his friends taking those special people fishing was
    really neat. I thing that he is credit to the fishing community
    and people in general. Good fishing tips and he covers the country.
    
    Oh well, enough.
    
    Tight lines, Ron
    
    
    
    
230.3HERE'S MORE ON CATVCANDY::MERCURIOWed Jan 14 1987 18:0739
    To add my two cents to this...
    
       "Jimmmy Houston's Outdoors" (my personal favorite, with Roland
    Martin running a close second) - (NASH, TEMPO): Lot's of bass'n
    and a smattering of other "species" (as an example he  fished
    for "peacock bass" in some river down in Columbia South Amer.last
    night)
       He has an interesting sense of humor which tends to bring a smile
    to your face during this time of year's snow storms. 
       Jimmy Houston's filming has to be the best on the tube. It's not 
    unusual to see footage of fish actually hitting a spinner bait or a 
    Zara Spook, this can be darn exciting sitting in your living room 
    imagining your at the other end of the line setting the hook. 
       He also gives names and address's of travel agencies or hotels he 
    stays at if your so inclined to take a serious fishing trip.
                                 
    "Billy Westmoreland's Fishing Diary" (NASH, TEMPO) :Billy is a little
    different from the others. He does mostly (as his theme song states)
    smallmouth bass fishing, and alot of this is done in his home state
    of Tenn., Dale Hollow Lake. This show is not one of my favorites but, 
    overall, not bad. 
    He did fish the BIG lake in N.H. this past weekend with Barry Hunt.
    I could really relate to that (I'll have to speak to Barry about
    this, I think I should have been invited as a guide!!!)  
                                                                         
    "Fishing With Orlando Wilson"  (NASH) : Supposedly a professional
    bass fisherman who fishes the circuit.(Personnally I think he should
    keep his entry fee money and invest it in a retirement program like
    a tax deductible IRA...) Not only can he not fish, but when he catches
    a 2 or 3 pounder he invaribly says they are a  6 to 10 pound "lunker".
                                                    
    
    That's it for now...Let's hear from the rest of you, there's more!!
    
    
    					Ice fishing is boring...
    
    							Jim
                                                                       
230.4L.L. Bean Fly Fishing SchoolJETSAM::COREYMaking last week, yesterday, today!Wed Jan 14 1987 18:2412
    Anybody out there ever gone to the L.L. Bean Fly Fishing school?
    If so, impressions?
    
    I've been considering it and as a gift for someone.  They have an
    intro course and an advanced.  L.L. Bean is so big on Fly-fishing
    that they have a whole separate catalog for it.
    
    Thx in advance.
    
    --Chris
    
    
230.5Bass is a 4 letter wordTORCH::MACINTYRELife's great, then u live forever.Wed Jan 14 1987 18:4921
    Geez, ED, I hate to disagree with ya, but the sight of all those
    Rangers on BASSmasters does abit more for me than Wheel of fortune.
    But then again Vanna White? is a whole heck of alot better looking
    than Ray Scott!  I agree with both your guys on the too much talking 
    and weighing.  But they should get back to the basics soon, after 
    they've covered all the last major tournies.  I wish they'd run this 
    show for the whole year instead of 26 weeks.

    I'd go along with Wheel of Fortune over Country Sports(?)man.
    
    On Fish'n Hole's opening show a couple of weeks ago, Jerry apologised 
    for his handling of fish, he's been getting alot of flack about it 
    obviously. 

    When is "In Fisherman and Virgil Ward on?  Don't think I've seen those...

    Also, anybody want to reccomend some bass'n videos?  I have about 7 of 
    them.  Big Mouth is good documentary on the Largemouth, not much
    fishing though. Another one I liked was Doug Hannon's Catching Big Bass. 

    Don Mac  VCR Bass'n till spring
230.6Ya but when are they on??????CAD::BROPHYWed Jan 14 1987 19:218
    I always manage to "catch" these shows by pure luck, and usually
    at the closing credits. Are these shows on at regular intervals?
    My cable guide does not even list Tempo. Do any of you couch
    fisherman:-) have the times of these broadcasts?
    
    Thanks
    Mike
    
230.7Shows on WTBSHPSCAD::WFIELDWed Jan 14 1987 20:0819
    Sat. night at 4:35 on WTBS they show 3 half hour long shows
    back to back. first is Saltwater something or other with
    Flip something or other, he always seems to flats fishing
    and has a lackey to pole his skip around and tell him how
    great the fishing is. I don't like this one all that well.
    
    Next is Roland Martin. This guy does lots of different stuff
    and is pretty interesting to watch. I particularly like that
    when he has a guide he lets the guide talk and does not
    proceed to tell the guide all about that particular type
    of fishing. He usually asks questions and lets the guy same
    something intellegent. Old Flip whats his face on the previos
    show could learn something from that.
    
    Then theres Orland Wilsons fishin show. Hes relativly entertaining.
    
    I havent seen fishin hole for a while, but I kind of enjoyed
    that one too.
    
230.8For us armchair anglersTORCH::MACINTYRELife's great, then u live forever.Thu Jan 15 1987 00:4922
    Not sure if there are any one during the week, but here's some for
    the weekend:
    
    Saturday
    09:00am	2	Rod & Reel: Streamside
    10:30	USA	Jimmy Houston
    11:00	ESPN	Mark Sosin
    11:30	ESPN	Tom Mann (just noticed it, never seen it) 
    04:00pm	ESPN	Fish'n hole
    04:35	TBS	Anglers Notebook or Saltwater Angler
    05:05	TBS	Roland                              
    05:35	TBS	Orlando                             
                                                            
    Sunday                                                  
    09:00am	ESPN	Fish'n hole                         
    09:00	NSH	Fishing Diary (Billy Westmoreland)  
    09:30	NSH	BASSmasters                         
                                                            
    OOOOPS! Sorry, ED... I almost forgot!
    
    Mon - Fri
    11:00am	4	Wheel of Fortune    
230.9what about ffj ??OLDMAN::MOLLOYThu Jan 15 1987 15:578
    ed,
    you forgot my favorite, FLY FISHING JOURNAL with JOE HUMPHREYS.
    never any bass stuff, just fly fishing for trout (there is a god!!).
    i sure it has not started for the season.  it used to be on every
    other saturday before FISHN' HOLE.  if its on this year it will
    probably start in march.
    
    regards......john
230.10"Couch Potato Comments"BAXTA::BLUM_EDFri Jan 16 1987 09:4323
    
 Rod and Reel (Regular and streamside) (MPBN) Sat or sunday mornings,
 Time varies with local schedule.

 Saltwater Journal is on ESPN, not PBS Times as in previous note.
    
 Virgil is on whenever they need a "sport" filler. Check listing.
    
 TEMPO doesnt print their schedule here either, just caught it by
 accident when scanning, but ussually sometime late Sat. afternoon.
    
 Forgot to mention Flyfishing with Joe Humpries (Appologeez to John)....
 being a fly fisherman (exclusively) this is OF COURSE my absolute
 favorite.......but wasnt sure you Bassassassin's would grok it!!..:^).
    
                                            Tight lines
    
                                          75 and counting
    
                                                Ed
        
    
    
230.11"Crank em up!!"BAXTA::BLUM_EDFri Jan 16 1987 09:5318
    
    RE .2; Hey Ron, You sure you know Orlando from Roland....Unless
    I was sleeping... It was ROLAND last Saturday...on Orlando's show (giving
    Orlando some tips I think) who landed the corker and raved about
    it being the biggest he had caught on TV...it WAS the biggest I
    ever saw anywhere..thats fer sure.
    
    Re: the BASS video's....for those of you interesting in trying for
    a hawg on (Flameproof ON)  sporting fishing gear (Rather than a "Ugly 
    broomstick" with a Shimano 47:1 power winch) try "Flyfishing for Bass
    with Dave Whitlock"........(Flameproof OFF)...
    
                                                    Keep em coming!
    
                                                    Tight Winches
    
                                                         Ed
    
230.12Roland is Roland is Roland...TORA::SCHOLZRon....and thanks for all the fishFri Jan 16 1987 11:5316
    No no no......Roland wasn't on Orlandos' show. Roland caught the big
    one. Orlando was fishing the Catskill River off the Hudson with The guy
    (name excapes me) who won the Bass Masters Classic last year. They did
    alright too. 
    
    Now Roland did *very* alright with that bass he caught. He was fishing
    with a buddy of his I have never seen before. He was paralized from the
    waste down due to a hunting accident, Roland said. Matter of fact, this
    guy really flopped off the chair onto the deck to help land the monster
    for Roland. You could hear him jump off, or slide off, or whatever he
    did.
    
    So you see Ed, I didn't have them confused......maybe you do;^)
    
    Tight lines, Ron 
     
230.13Couch AnglingARMORY::CUZZONESFresh from your grocers freezerFri Jan 16 1987 14:5233
    Observations on the previous 13:
    
    -  Mark Sosin should get a new hat.  I know it's practical but it
       belongs on one of Jerrys special kids (not meaning to be cruel).
    
    -  Jerry is unquestionably fun to watch and a credit to the sport
       (fish handling skills excepted).  I DO like the music, you don't
       have to talk fishing while you fish all the time and I prefer
       the music to the inane chatter otherwise offered on other shows.
       Jerry needs to shake that Arkansas accent though.  My wife can't
       watch 2 minutes of this show without rolling her eyes and
       snickering... major laughter erupts everytime he goes fishing
       in the state of Warshington.
    
    -  Bill Saiff (Rod & Reel) has a habit of knocking his cameraman
       constantly ( anyone named Wink deserves constant critcism ) and
       is extremely short tempered with his inexperienced, no-name guests
       (particularly children).  No fishing buddy, he!  I think I'd
       be tempted to knock him overboard.
    
    -  I don't flyfish but I really enjoyed "Flyfishing for Bass" with
       Dave Whitlock.  He made me want to try it.
    
    -  DonMac, watch out for any Gaddabout Gaddis tapes!  Hooboy, bad
       news...old film, old equipment, old gadabout...peppered with
       numerous bigotted remarks.  I can't believe this stuff aired
       on national TV 2 decades ago!
    
    -  Anybody seen Good Fishin' with Babe Winkleman?  I can't quite
       pull in 19 from Adams Ma. but it's on sat afternoon.  Might be
       a real change of pace.  His wife's much cuter than Jerrys.
    
    Steve
230.14"Need a scorecard?"MTBLUE::BLUM_EDMon Jan 19 1987 09:3413
    
    re: .12  Yeah Ron, he was fishing with the handicaped fellow (who
    accounted for himself very well)......I had just finished watching
    Orlando, and Virgil and Billy and Mark and....and....and....gosh
    there's so many of these guys they should put em on cards with chewing
    gum....:^)....hard to keep em straight.
    
                                                  Tight lines
    
                                                  73 and counting
        
                                                       Ed
        
230.15"Gaddabout Hammers Em"MTBLUE::BLUM_EDMon Jan 19 1987 09:4216
     
    re: .13 
    
    _ Ah yes, Gaddabout Gaddis......now there was a fellow who liked
    a good fishfry....three times a day. Yes, old Gad limited his kill
    to killing his limit...thats fer sure...in his day conservation
    was something only the unemployed did (CCC)..: Avoid if possible!
    
    _ GEEwillerkers..ah plumb fergot all about Babe Winkledinkle....
    he's somehwere between Virgil Ward and Orlando Wilson, no better,
    no worse.....but loves to catch them walleyed pikes.
    
    

    
    
230.16DonMac was on TV!!AIMHI::TOMASJoeMon Jan 19 1987 11:427
    Did anyone catch the Tom Mann show this Sat. morning.  Tom was fishing
    with some guy and this guy's friend...boy...he reminded me of DonMac!
    I was really touched when this DonMac look-a-like gave a bass a
    big kiss on the mouth before he released it!  Is that what's called
    "love of the sport" ????
    
    -HoleShot-
230.17The news is outTORCH::MACINTYRELife's great, then u live forever.Mon Jan 19 1987 12:392
    Ok Ok... I didn't want to say anything... didn't want to get all
    you guys jealous...  Yeap... me an ol' Tom go way back...
230.18open mouth...(wider!)AIMHI::TOMASJoeMon Jan 19 1987 15:246
    har...har... the joke's on DonMac!!  He obviously didn't see the
    show!!
    
    The "other guy" was Tom Mann's friend's pet ORANGUTAN!! 
    
    But still a spittin' image on DonMac!
230.19TORCH::MACINTYRELife's great, then u live forever.Mon Jan 19 1987 15:491
    After I wrote that, I was afraid I'd set myself up...
230.20Feet are Funny Things......TORA::SCHOLZRon....and thanks for all the fishMon Jan 19 1987 16:214
    That'll teach you.......now remove foot slllowwwwwllly so as not
    to distrub teeth ;^)
    
    Tight lines, Ron
230.21Impressive Fish ReleaseCANDY::MERCURIOMon Jan 19 1987 18:3018
    Did anyone catch the Orlando Wilson show this weekend? If you did
    I'm sure you would have been as impressed as I was with the way he 
    handled one of the sea trout he had caught. He had trouble trying
    to grab it to take the hook out. The camera went away from him 3
    times hoping he would get the hook out but each time it came back,
    there was old butterfingers Orlando still trying to get this poor
    12" fish under control. Holding the line with one hand and, (I might
    add), many times unsuccessfully, trying to get the other hand around 
    the #*&#%& fish. I was impressed as usual with his techniques...
                                                                 
    
    
    
    					Watching Orlando Just for the Laughs
                                                
    
    						Jim
    
230.22"Grab em by the lungs"MTBLUE::BLUM_EDTue Jan 20 1987 09:587
    
    re: .21 Yah, I "caught" ol Orlando this weekend...he sure had a tussle
    with that sea trout.....ended up with his hand stuck in its gills..
    "well just let me get im by the lungs here"....and held up for
    display.....reminded me of McKinnis. Great fishhandler extraordinaire.
    
                                              E                              
230.23 Wink' s Fan ClubNYALYF::HORWITZTue Jan 20 1987 13:5819
    Gee whiz guys, wish I had cable and could see all these master anglers
    in action. All I get is Rod & Reel on shaky UHF.
    Of course, Bill Saiff does give one enough material to criticize
    for quite a while. 
    Given that Saiff (and the ever popular Wink) are my only viewees:
    
          Do all the TV anglers fish with the click on constantly?????
    	  Does everyone put fish in the live well to kill them?????
          Will anyone fishing with Saiff get credit they deserve????
    	  Can any fishing spot compare with his home port????
    	  Will he see the wake from my torpedo?????
    
    Gee, I can hardly wait... my PBS station is going to broadcast Rod
    & Reel Streamside....now, when is hunting season in upstate NY?
    
    sorry... had to get him off my chest.
    
    Beach Bagel
    
230.24The Week that Was....TORA::SCHOLZRon....and thanks for all the fishMon Feb 02 1987 17:0239
    Anybody catch Jerry's show this weekend. He was fishing up in Maine,
    (that is part of New England, isn't it?;^) in the fall and was doing
    alright. Doverfox.....something or other. I cant' remember the name.
    Excellent footage and great scenery shots. His handling techniques
    have inproved too, on fish that is. Oh ya. I really liked the song
    they had on fall. Quite well done I thought.
    
    Was wondering if anyone that saw it could verify that thing are
    as nice there, fishing wise, as the show portrayed?
    
    Another good one was Roland fishing Wisconsin. Bass all over the
    place and no other bass fishermen around. I fished the same lakes
    that they did, about 30 years ago, and things haven't changed that
    I could see. Northerns and Walleye and Muskie were and still are
    the main fishing in that part of the woods. Alot like trout is in
    these parts. Leaves alot of bass untouched for the likes of me.....
    I'm going to have to get back there again somewhere along the way.
    
    I think it was Tom Mann that was fishing Wini this week. Sure made
    it look nice. The guy that he was with was the Lorance rep in N.E.
    and he was killing them. Seemed to be catching 4 for everyone that
    Tom caught.
    
    Orlando was fishing a Fla. farm pond with Joe Nikreo (the knuckleball
    pitcher) and Joe had THE lure that was killing them and Orlando
    didn't have one like it in his box. It was fun to watch Orlando
    getting blanked while the "guest" was cleaning them up. Made for
    an interesting show you don't usually get. "Star gets Hammered."
    
    Jimmy Houstin, I can't even remember........now that is bad. The
    B.A.S.S. show was from Minnisota and they spent 10 mins on how to
    manage a lake for bass and how its' done there. Actually, quite
    interesting. They were even flipping, which is not exactly a northern
    type technique, at least a prominent one.
    
    That's about all that I can remember about this weeks fishing shows.
    Just enough to make the "cabin fever" rise about 2 degrees.
    
    Tight lines, Ron
230.25Yup, it's nice thereJETSAM::COREYMaking last week, yesterday, today!Tue Feb 03 1987 11:2811
    That's  " Dover-Foxcroft"  and having been there, I can verify that
    it's nice up there.  Not having seen the show, I'd guess he was
    probably fishing the Piscataquis river which has some nice scenery
    along it, and you don't have to go to far away from town to get
    into the boonies real quick.
                             
    In my opinion, fall is the absolute best time of year for Maine
    scenery, even before the leaves turn.  But I'd say the fishing is
    better in the spring (May).
    
    --Chris
230.26TORCH::MACINTYRELife's great, then u live forever.Tue Feb 03 1987 12:001
    North Pond was the one Jerry was fishing.
230.27not just trout and salmonMTBLUE::BOTTOM_DAVIDFri Feb 06 1987 16:256
    Hey you bassers..there's lots of bass up here.....Jerry did look
    alot better handling the fish carefully most of the time. He fished
    North pond because most of the ponds in Maine  had closed by the
    time he came up here. Yes the fishing is that good.
    
    dave
230.28The Week that Was...or was it???TORA::SCHOLZRon....and thanks for all the fishTue Feb 10 1987 17:0322
    Well, did anyone catch this weekends offerings? Mixed bag I thought.
    
    Orlando was the one fishing Wini this week. Seems like they have
    all hit it this season (or last as the case may be). Roland was
    doing some nice smallmouth fishing on Lake Ontario, and Jerry was
    catfishing in Minn. on the Red River. Oh ya, Jerry did his pitch
    for his special fishing oylipics. 501-372-6544 is the number to
    call for his catalog for the products that he has to offer to support
    this. Really a great cause and a great thing for him to do.
    
    Tom Mann was fishing Lake Martin in Ala. with his old boss from
    the days when he was a conservation officer. They caught a lot of
    small white bass and showed how the stocking program is being done
    in the state.
    
    Bassmasters had the "Big O" tourney on this weekend. Some real nice
    fish were caught, but again they showed a lot of boats racing around
    and weigh-ins and the like. The pro-pointer was on shinner fishing.
    Nothing really new there. Find it out the first time you ask at
    the bait shop.
    
    Well, that's it for now. Tight lines, Ron
230.29TomBabeJimmyJerryRolandOrlando-woooooeeeeeARMORY::CUZZONESWed Feb 11 1987 13:5133
    I caught Jimmy Houston and for the fourth week in a row, part of
    the show was devoted to Orinoco Peacock Bass; this time he was going
    for a line record (8 lb I think).  It looked like he did it, and
    then beat it before he even got to weigh the first fish.  I was
    disappointed the way the show ended without telling you the weights
    of the fish and whether he set a record or not. 
    
    I love the disclaimer USA network runs before Jimmys show identifying
    it as a paid promotional program (read: 30 minute ad).  Apparently
    sales from Jimmys Cookson, OK tackle shop enterprise of the airwaves
    pay for the program.
    
    BTW, is anyone interested in taking up a collection to put a hit
    on the guy that does the magicbait commercials?  Where did they
    get this guy?  WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
    
    I caught Tom Mann also and called Fishin Shack right afterwards
    to add $20 worth of Roadrunner jigs to my current order.  It looks
    like an effective bait for small bass on light tackle, not to mention
    Crappie and other panfish.
    
    Watching Tom was a hard choice, because USA has added Babe to its
    saturday morning schedule.  I switched back and forth for a while
    before settling on T Mann.  At least Tom has the decency to not
    constantly plug (no pun intended) his own products like Jimmy. 
    I was not as impressed with Babes wife now that I've seen more than
    her face and listened to her grovel and coo over him.  He'll have
    to offer something other than the std bass fishing to get me to
    watch his show regularly since so many others do it better.  A show
    on Walleye (supposedly his specialty) or Pike would have me riveted
    to the screen.
    
    Steve
230.30an afterthoughtARMORY::CUZZONESWed Feb 11 1987 13:559
    In case you don't know what I'm talking about, you've gotta see
    this Magic Bait guy.  He looks and acts like he's been drinking
    lighter fluid for 60 years.....or smoking Magic Bait.
    
    I'll bet anything he's an oldtime washed-up Country and Western
    singer.
    
    Steve
    
230.31WOOOOOOWEEEEEEETORCH::MACINTYRELife's great, then u live forever.Wed Feb 11 1987 17:477
     re: magic bait guy... Where so I sign????  That guy drives
     me crazy...!
     
     He's almost as ugly as Holeshot Joe!
   	
    don mac  
230.32"Lays a crav'in on em"MTBLUE::BLUM_EDThu Feb 12 1987 11:028
    
    
Ayuh..thet majik bait lays a crav'in on em!!!!   E
        
    
    
    
    
230.33Peatnuts and BassTORCH::MACINTYREImpatiently waiting for ice-out.Mon Feb 23 1987 12:557
    Anyone else see ex pres Jimmy Carter out fish Tom Mann this weekend!
    
    I thought it was a great show, ol' Jimmy was using a flyrod.
    
    Carter's a pretty good fisherman!
    
    Don Mac
230.34A Presidental View.....TORA::SCHOLZRon....and thanks for all the fishMon Feb 23 1987 13:3024
    Ya, I caught that myself. Not to bad a show. I had no idea that
    he (Carter) was such an avid fisherman. Some of the stories he was
    telling were actually pretty good. I liked the one about the fly
    tourney in Europe where they could only use four flies on their
    line at a time.
    
    Roland was deep sea fishing for Marlin, and Orlando was deep cranking
    for bass. Orlando' show was the better one. He spent quite a bit
    of time explaining what and why he was doing things. 
    
    Anyone else catch Billy Westmoreland fishing Squam Lake for smallmouth?
    He has the worst of the shows when it comes to sharing info. Just
    a lot of fish catching.
    
    Bassmasters was good for anyone that is thinking of becoming a pro.
    I actually liked it, and since they were on West Point, I liked
    it even more. I plan to be there come the end of March:^))))))))
    
    Jerry was off in Mexico fishing for bone fish and (I can't think
    of it right now). Not one of his better shows I thought.
    
    Tight lines, Ron (if spring won't come to you, go to it)
    
    Tight lines, Ron
230.35VIKING::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth Bass...Mon Oct 12 1987 11:5717
	496.6
>    Looks like we will have more than enough to make the morning
>    interesting. ANYONE see the worm lesson on Channel 11 this AM. Ill
>    let you borrow the tape after the tourney, and my partner has 
>    seen... 
             
    Jack, was that on Rod & Reel: Streamside???  I usually watch that
    one on Sunday am, but I was a good boy yesterday and went to church,
    and set the VCR for 10PM, rather than 10AM 8^( so I missed it...
    
    Anyways... Right now the only shows that I know of being aired right
    now are: Rod and Reel, Rod & Reel:Streamside, Fish'n Hole and Bill
    Dance...
    
    Anyone know of any others that are on right now???
     
    donmac  
230.36SONATA::LANGEImaybetotallywrong,butI'madancin'foolMon Oct 12 1987 13:095
    Good show...
    That guy way hammering those bass...But that guy from Mass. went
    out with,and he hardley caught a thing...i hope it's not contagious!
    ;-)
                       
230.37Worm show..CGVAX2::HAGERTYJack Hagerty KI1XMon Oct 12 1987 15:067
    Re: 35 Donmac -thats right. He started the show with "Its Oct 16
    and its just you and me on a pond in NY. Im gonna teach you about
    using worms...." etc. Or something like that. Guess who is goona
    watch this flick every nite this week. (My partner, thats who..)
    It also reminded me of my  trip two weeks ago to Sunapee with the
    Skoal Bandit. Although we were doing only spinners, I wish I was
    better at worming.. 
230.38VIKING::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth Bass...Mon Oct 12 1987 15:2217
    Jack, some of those video's that are out are quite good also, some
    tackle shops have a wide assortment of bass'n videos... they do
    a real good job of giving you a real bad case of fishing fever come
    Feb/Mar...
    
    I fugured that was R&R:S, last week he was fishing small ponds in
    the Adirondacks (sp?) and ended the show saying that he had hoped
    to spend more time explaining how to fish worms (plastic naturally)
    
    On another note, I sure hope that BASSmasters comes out with more
    episodes this year, last year it didn't seem that they aired much
    new stuff at all - and 95% was weigh-ins...  
    
    Hope Roland starts up again too, he's the one I enjoy the most...
    "SON, look at dat fish, that's a bigun, oooo-eee, that's a big fish!"
                                                    
    donmac                         
230.39JAWS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardWed Apr 13 1988 13:5315
    
    Has anyone been watchin a show called "FISHIN TEXAS"?
    
    I catch it on the TMPO cable channel.
    
    It was on last night.  There is also anotherone on the same channel
    that I have caught a few times called "THE HONEY HOLE" also from
    Texas
    A coupla good ones.
    
    TBDW
    
    
    
    TBDW
230.40Dat Texus fishin...DPDMAI::BEAZLEYWed Apr 13 1988 19:3912
    Dey got wun ob dem shows dats don rat where ole Coonass libes, on
    Lake Lewisville, jes north ob Dallas. Dey fish mosly for stripers
    op dere, an sac-a-lait. De mon whot does it is only 28, but he look
    lak he mebbe 40, wot de hell, he's a fishermon!!!
    
    Dees Texyuns get real serius bout their fishin. Dey use all dat
    electruns stuff an dem real fas boats an if dey don git bout 50
    pounds of fish dey get real moody. An dey wors ting is dat dey den
    go an tell all dere frans where dey cought dem!!! Me, I don see
    nuthin an I don say nuttin...
    
    Coonass
230.41HELP, I MISSED IT!!!!!GENRAL::HUNTERfrom SUNNY Colorado, WayneThu Jun 23 1988 21:1211
    	All right all you TV fanatics, I need some help.  I was just
    informed by one of my Reps. that my boys were on one of the Fishing
    Hole Fishing Buddies segments in March.  If anyone out there has
    a copy of the show with the Pictures of Mark and Jamie Hunter, would
    you PLEASE contact me.  I would love to have a copy.  Otherwise,
    I will have to keep recording the show all summer.  (Must have missed
    it when someone recorded over my fishing tape or ????)
    
    advTHANKSance
    
    Wayne
230.42Canadian Sport FIshingNYJMIS::HORWITZBeach BagelTue Aug 02 1988 13:3511
    Has anyone out there seen "Canadian Sportfishing" on cable??
    
    Henry and Italo, the stars(?), are two of the lowest-key guys who
    have ever gone fishing in front of a camera.
    This series always has great scenery, as they mostly fish at fly-in
    locations. 
    Overall it's a decent show, but for some reason I'm reminded of
    a certain sketch from Saturday Night Live.......EH.
    
    Rich
    
230.43ESPN ShowNYJMIS::HORWITZBeach BagelTue Aug 02 1988 13:4114
    Also....
    There is a show that I just found part of on ESPN.
    I just manage to catch the last 20 minutes of this show on Mondays
    when I get home from work. Not sure of the name, and I don't get
    good listings for cable stations. It seems to be SALTWATER orientated,
    as the couple of (partial) shows I saw were on California Party
    Boat fishing for albacore, and marlin fishing.
    What I have seen of this show is unique in that there isn't a lot
    of talking to the camera...rather, most of the audio is the actual
    jabbering on deck. Best line: one of the mates on the albacore trip
    encouraging anglers to follow their fish along the rail: "NO ANGLES..
    NO TANGLES".
    
    Rich
230.44Mackenzie Bros. Live!CIMAMT::DOWNINGTue Aug 02 1988 14:123
    RE .42: So that's what Bob and Doug are up to now! Those hoseheads!
    They get to sit in a boat all day and play BEER HUNTER! Beauty,
    eh!
230.45MURPHY::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardMon Aug 08 1988 16:0412
    
    Did anyone catch the fishin show from Australia over the weekend?
    
    I onnly saw a few minutes of it but is was great....
    This "Dendee" type charactor knew his stuff and was obviously sponsered
    by Shimano.
    
    At one point he hooked a crocadile (400 pounder) and fought the
    dam thing on 16# test line.  It was COOL!
    
    TBDW
    
230.46TV show celebrityGENRAL::HUNTERfrom SUNNY Colorado, WayneMon Oct 31 1988 18:068
    	Back in .41, I asked for any assistance in finding a copy of
    the Jerry McKinnis Fishing Hole Show with my son's picture on it.
    Luckily for me, I caught it during the re-runs last week.  He was
    the one who caught the Northern Pike while sleeping in the boat.
    So, now all you non-TV celebrities may refer to me as Mr. or Sir.
     :-)    :-)
    	BTW: weather here today is in the upper 60s or lower 70s and
    no wind.  I wish I was fishing!
230.47Maintain a low profile...CASV01::PRESTONNO Dukes!!Tue Nov 01 1988 14:4820
    Re .41 (TV cleb Sir Wayne Hunter)
    
    Just for the record, several years ago when I was a lad, I PERSONALLY
    MET AND TALKED WITH THE ONE AND ONLY JOHNNY CRAWFORD FROM THE TV
    SHOW "THE RIFLEMAN". We became great pals (tho I haven't seen him
    since), yet I always abide by the policy of extending towards the
    common folk the courtesy of allowing them to drop formalities such 
    as Sir or Mr. They seem to be so ever grateful and appreciative of 
    this small gesture of consideration on my part. One other piece of 
    advice, though, Wayne, don't let them become too familiar with you,
    or, next thing you know, they'll be slapping you on your back, 
    spitting in your presence, and want to go fishing with you.

    We must do lunch sometime. Have your people call my people.
    
    Ed
    
    P.S. My wife made a PERSONAL APPEARANCE on the original BOOM TOWN,
    WITH REX TRAILER AND PABLO (not that F-troop fugitive Sgt Billy)
    
230.48Media ManiaSA1794::CUZZONESSurfcasting with the AlienMon Nov 14 1988 01:1417
    RE: .46  Well, Wayne, they must've been rerunning the reruns ....
    
    Saturday morning at 9:00 (cartoon prime-time) my 7 year old says, "You
    watch what you wanta watch Dad." So, I hit the buttom for ESPN and
    Fishin' Hole.  Jerry's fishing for Lake Trout in the Northwest
    Territories.  Round about 9:20, it's Fish'n Buddies time and sho'
    nuff, there's Wayne's boy and the story of the pike caught in his
    sleep.  Got quite a chuckle out of ol' Jer.
    
    'Bout the best I can do is get misquoted regularly by the local
    outdoor writer... asked him if Monomonac sucked or we did.  He said
    he'd ask around.  Stay tuned.
    
    BTW, DonMac, nobody's gonna find any notes on Connectict ... you
    mispelled the keyword ;-).
    
    -SSS-
230.49bassin bob syndromeRAINBO::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsMon Nov 14 1988 12:455
>>        BTW, DonMac, nobody's gonna find any notes on Connectict ... you
>>    mispelled the keyword ;-).
    
    oops, so sorry... all better now..  donmac
    
230.50Watch Tony's boat win the Oak Bluffs T&R awardWAHOO::LEVESQUESorry, our hands are tied.Tue Nov 07 1989 19:4620
 I got a postcard from Capt Tony Tolentino yesterday.

 The 1989 Oak Bluffs Monster Shark Tournament will be shown on ESPN on Sunday,
Nov. 12, 1:30-2:30 PM and on Sunday, Dec. 31 from 8:00 - 9:00 pm. Tony's
boat, the Cygnet, won the tag and release award for the tourney. Set your
VCRs.

 There will be other telecasts featuring Cygnet Sportfishing. When I get the
dates for them, I will post them. When Tony gets them, he will put them on his
answering machine- (508) 548-6274.

 If you enjoy the ESPN program, please write to them (so we can get more of
the same type of programming.)

 Kerwin Communications
 6525 Sunset Boulevard, Suite 707
 Hollywood, Ca
 90028

 The Doctah
230.51new show coming on SCRAINBO::MACINTYRETerminal AnglerWed Nov 08 1989 12:164
    Also Sports Channel has been advertising a new show coming in November
    (haven't seen it yet) - New England Rod and Reel.
    
    donmac
230.52I'll wear my hatHPSTEK::HAUERWed Nov 08 1989 18:2210
    
    	Hay!.....possibly another opportunity to catch a few BASS [ales]
    	at this one with the noter gang????
    
    	Keep an eye out for this one!
    
    	Gitzit'
    
    
    
230.53Did anyone happend to video tape this?11SRUS::LUCIAHe's dead, JimMon Nov 13 1989 18:170
230.54Wait- this isn't fishing?!!!WAHOO::LEVESQUERiff Raff- always good for a laughMon Nov 13 1989 19:178
 Due to some slick LA types, :-) the initial broadcast of the Oak Bluffs
tournament was rescheduled from Sunday to Saturday, Nov 25th at 12:30 pm.

 I'll try to record that one.

 two additional telecasts will be announced later- will advise

 The Doctah
230.55winni on scMOSAIC::MACINTYRETerminal AnglerWed Nov 15 1989 12:5012
    I found New England Rod and Reel, it's on 6pm on Sundays on Sports
    Channel.  
    
    They were trolling Winnipesaukee for Landlocks and Lakers, in May.
    
    It was ok.  Although the guide seemed to know what he was doing, the
    host of the show didn't impress me - nor did the quality of the video
    and sound.
    
    But it is fun watching local stuff. 
    
    donmac
230.56Same show - new channel???ISLNDS::GAFFNEYGone fishin/racinWed Nov 15 1989 18:297
    I watched it too, seems like it's a continuation of "Fishing
    New England"  which has been on NESN.  Hope they don't give
    away any of my hot spots, but I don't mind hearing about
    yours   :*)
    
    Gone fishin