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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

783.0. "INFORMATION ON SNAPPING TURTLES" by SPCTRM::OMESSER () Fri Jul 01 1988 14:49

                   FRESH WATER SNAPPING TURTLES
    I WOULD LIKE ANY INFORMATION ON SNAPPING TURTLES,LIKE::
        1(WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BUYING TURTLE MEAT.
        2(WHERE ARE SOME GOOD SPOTS FOR CATCHING TURTLES.
        3(HOW DO YOU CALL TURTLES IN? I'VE HEARD THAT THERE
    IS A WAY TO DO THIS.THERE IS SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE ,THAT
    KNOW HOW TO DO THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT HOW TO DO THIS.
                         
    
    
                                THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP,
                                       OSCAR
    DTN226-2160 OR 617-597-8675
    LJO1
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783.1Plenty turtlesDPDMAI::BEAZLEYFri Jul 01 1988 15:1118
    Oscar,
    
    Whot parts ob de contry you from?? Down in Loosiana it are BIG bidness.
    Dey somtims tak som meat an tie it to a float an wen dey com to
    eat dey shoot dem in de head. Mos times dey use a trot line an bait
    it wit chiken scraps on a BIG hook ,lak dem salt water kind. Dat
    way chew jes gets de big ones.
    
    Dey are scavengers an eat mos anyting. For years mos peoples eat
    de softshell turtles, but now, dey wants de snappers. Dere are laws
    bout turtle fishin in Loosiana, but lak de oter laws mos peoples
    don pay it no mind. Now dey say dey are becomin distint, but frum
    whot I see dere are PLENTY!!
    
    Mos seafood restaurant/cafes don chere but ide meat for tutrle soup,
    but chew gotta do de cleaning an it tak a long time an a sharp knife.
    
    Coonass
783.2SnappersSA1794::CUZZONESGod, I love this place!!!!Fri Jul 01 1988 16:1710
    
    I'd wait until they cross a road and run over their heads.  I saw
    one last week in Connecticut that must have been a couple feet long.
    
    If they could move faster, a snapper would be one SCARY animal.
    
    Coonass, aren't the big ones tough?  Turtles live a long time, a
    big one could be 50 (?) years old or more.
    
    Steve
783.3VLNVAX::HEDERSTEDTT.B.S.Fri Jul 01 1988 17:3512
    
     There is a good place at the Acton/Concord line.It is just off
    Rt 62 just after the shopping center and it is about 100yds on the
    left.It is a small pond that is feed by the assibet river and ground
    source water.I have never seen sooo many snappers in a single place!
    
     I went there fishing and saw no fish what-so-ever but I did see
    snappers in the water,walking by,every 5 minutes or so.
    
    
    			Wayne
    
783.4Turtle hunting in LousianaPLDVAX::MLOEWEALF for president!Fri Jul 01 1988 18:0122
    I was watching the Discovery channel the other day and they were
    covering hunting for snapping turtles in Lousiana.  According to
    the show, the old timers knew how catch the big ones.  And get this,
    they use their bare hands.  They showed this hillbilly sort of guy
    standing in the water up to chest with just his swimming trunks
    on.  He would go over to where they believe a huge turtle would
    be under the water and in some shelter.  They showed him take a
    deep breath and go under the surface, about 20 seconds later he
    came up and said "thars a biggon' don dere", "grab my head so
    I can git air whin I com up".  He took another deep breath, plunged
    beneath the murky surface, and what felt like almost a minute later,
    his head pops up, but it goes down right away.  He comes up again and
    you can see he's got the turtle by the back end.  But the turtle
    pulled him back down again (no way is he going to let go).  Another
    guy jumps in the water, grabs his head and brings it to the surface
    so he can breathe.  Then it was a duo effort to get this snapper
    to the shore.  One of the guys on shore says, "Joe, turn him around
    so we can see his head".  Joe turns the turtle around and all we
    see on TV is a gapping mouth that could hold three softballs.
    I believed they said the turtle was over 35 pounds.
    I hate to be the guy named "lefty" in this bussiness.
    Mike_L
783.5Do you practice "catch and release"?BPOV09::J_AMBERSONFri Jul 01 1988 18:114
    Just out of curiosity, why do you want to kill snappers?  I
    think there kind of neat.
    
    Jeff
783.6LOOK AT THEM SNAPPAHS!STRATA::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsFri Jul 01 1988 18:149
YO,
     As I understand it, if you open a cold COORS and set it on the
    bank of a river known to to hold snappers they will eventually crawl
    to it. As they are all arguing over who gets the first hit, you
    open up on em with an M-16. BINGO!  (The assabett in Hudson has
    em and I have seen em with shells more then two feet across) The
    Blackstone river also has them and if I told you how big I have
    seen them you would call me a liar.......
                                             NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~
783.7ARGUS::BISSELLFri Jul 01 1988 18:304
    Have to be careful because dem snappers will bit you and not let
    go until the sun goes down or it thunders.   Dats the reason they
    prefer to get them in the summer in the south due to the number
    of thunderbumpers.
783.8Dats de way WE ketch demDPDMAI::BEAZLEYFri Jul 01 1988 18:4315
    I wuz gonna tell chew how we catches dem wit our hans, but if chew
    don know how dat wud be so bad for chew. Me, I used to play football
    wit dem peoples dat rasseled wit gators an snappers, so I know wat
    to spect. Divin fo dem op dere wud probably be bad awright, de water
    stay most cold all de time. Since dey are cold-blooded dey wud be
    more dormant, tho.
    
    Ole Coonass wud rather get dem in de warmer water an shoot dem in
    de cold water.
    
    Crawler, don chere we don use Coors, its Dixie beer!!
    
    Why catch dem?? To eat!! Cajuns WILL eat anyting!!!
    
    Coonass
783.9Beer preference for snappers is regionalSTRATA::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsFri Jul 01 1988 19:538
    YO COONASS,
                I'd try it if there was somewhere that here that had
    it. Frogs, rattlesnake, eel, octopus, buffalo, squid are a few
    interesting foods I've had. I hear "gater" is good. I understand
    you really don't want to pick up a snapping turtle by hand. The
    neck can reach all the way around to its rear! Goodbye hand*
             
                                           NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~
783.10It can be done!!VLNVAX::HEDERSTEDTT.B.S.Fri Jul 01 1988 20:365
    I have caught them by hand when they come out to lay eggs.Its ok
    to grab them by the tail but hold them away from your body or you
    WILL develop this pain in your leg or side!!
    
    		Wayne
783.12Anybody catch this one last night ???VICKI::DODIERWed Jul 06 1988 12:069
    	I watched a documentary type show the other day. I think it
    was called Orphan Animals, or something like that, and it was about
    terrapins (fresh water turtles) in Africa. One of the guys in the 
    show was explaining why it was so bad to get bitten by one of these 
    things while waving his fingers around in front of the terrapins face.
    That's when my wife noticed he was missing his index finger on his
    right hand. Gee, I wonder how that happened.
    
    RAYJ
783.13snapper stewSCOMAN::TADRYWed Jul 06 1988 16:1246
    I had this all typed yesterday then the system went down, try again...
    Your reading all the warnings of how nasty the little buggers can
    be and it can't be emphasized enough if your going to catch them
    for game. I used to catch them when I was a kid and used to keep
    them as "pets" in the backyard, it was the in thing to do that summer.
    We would catch them bare handed in ponds on the Dupont estate, never
    invited, in Delaware. We would always turn them loose either when
    our parents made us or when we got tired of them. The trick to bare
    handed catching was really getting the ones that were far enough
    away from the pond, get their tale and then putting them in a bucket
    head first. Since then I have fished for them with people who enjoy
    eating them,I never tried it. To fish for them you need a medium
    to heavy action rod with at least 14lb test line and a stainless
    steel leader topped off with a pike size hook. A coleman lantern,
    this is an night time sport, a case of beer (depending on how many
    folks are going), a good size bucket, and chicken necks. Since you
    go at night, they are real active feeders at night, pick up a clip
    on "cow bell" that you can get at most tackle shops. Bait your hook
    and if you fishing a pond or lake keep the bait on the bottom in
    less than 5 feet of water. If your fishing in a stream or river
    shoot for the tailwaters of rapids or in a bend. Those spots usually
    accumulate food for them. Clip on you bell and when you hear the
    bell ring pick up your and and if you feel resistance on the line
    and its taking line you might have one, it won't drop it if you
    tug a bit on it. Set the hook and reel it in. It'll fight a bit
    until it gets its feet on the shore line then its go nuts. It take
    2 people to really land it, one to work the pole and the other to
    get its tale to lift it into the bucket. Watch its claws, there
    very sharp and can inflict nasty cuts. Once in the bucket, head
    first, it'll try and dig its way out the bottom so made sure its
    a real sturdy one. The guys I went with used to feed them chop meat
    for 2 days after they caught them to purge their system out. You'll
    be surprised with what you see. To clean them you'll need a hatchet,
    a 1"wood chisel, hammer, and a filet knife. They used to torment
    the turtle to bite a stick then stretch its neck and remove it.
    Then hang the turtle by the claws and tale for about 1-2 hours to
    "bleed" it.  When it came to removing the shell the legs were still
    going, they used the wood chisle to chip away the shell/underside
    attach points then pried off the shell, no easy feat. They would
    crock pot the turtle meat with veggies and potatoes until done.
    Maybe coonass could dig up a cajun style recipe for these critters.
    Well thats my experiance with snappers, good luck.
    
    Ray,
    
    P.S. I never did hear of a snapper call. 
783.14SALEM::RIEUMike Dukakis Should Be GovernorWed Jul 06 1988 18:427
       I had a 12" trout on a stringer once, all of a sudden it took
    off like a shot. I grabbed the stringer and started pulling back,
    there was a HUGE snapper on the other end with MY fish in his mouth.
    We had a pretty good war there for a few minutes, but I beat him.
       BTW, the Leominster Sportsman's Club had a turtle derby a couple
    years ago to try to get some of the buggers out of the pond.
                                                    Denny 
783.15Wot chew need is a turtle sterminater!!DPDMAI::BEAZLEYWed Jul 06 1988 19:0211
    Mebbe  me, I sen chew Phideaux to get dem?? He say dey taste lak
    hog on de half shell!! I ban teachin him to fetch dem turtles, but
    he only brangst me som ob dem an he eats de rest!!
    
    I foun som recipes, but mostly dey need crab boil, lea & perrin,
    file powder, an Tobasco. Some rice, bay leaves,  tomatoes an okra.
    Jes mix till it taste real good!! An add de rice jes before servin..
    
    Oh yea, Pecheau bitters...
    
    Coonass
783.16PERFCT::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardWed Jul 06 1988 20:088
    
    1)  Tadry,  You be one sick puppy.
    2)  I have all of the ingredients that the COONASS mentioned except
        for the bitters. Hey COONASS, Send the bitters in the PACKAGE.
    3)  You get them turtles,  I'll do the cookin.
    4)  Purging them suckers is a MUST.
    
    
783.17I BEG YOUR PARDONSCOMAN::TADRYWed Jul 06 1988 20:389
    HEY BIG GARRYYYYYYY,
    Thanks for the compliment, its taken many years. When we goin  
    turtlin'?. I bet the Assebet down by the firehouse in Hudson would
    be a goldmine for the aligator snappers. I think if we get the
    worm,you, Lester the molester, and who ever else wants to partake
    it would be a gas. You do the cookin. Hey....gotta bring the big
    Don for that one. whaddaya say???.
    
    Ray
783.18TOOLS OF THE TRADE?STRATA::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsThu Jul 07 1988 15:208
    YO RAY/GARRY,
                     Yup, thats the place Ray. Right at the spill way.
    Monsters. If we go I want to use the axes, chisels, and do the neck
    stretching bit. Sounds great. Hangin em upside down to bleed them...
    whoooooohhhh. This is intense. Claymore mines are quite effective
    as well.......Garry cooks, Ray buys the beer, I do the turtle torture.
    Beauty.
                                                    NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~
783.19Gotta be Craftsman!SCOMAN::TADRYThu Jul 07 1988 15:311
    SOLD AMERICAN!!!!, lets pick a date....Coors ok?. 
783.20Gag me with a backhoe!FDCV06::NICOLAZZOFree the beaches!Thu Jul 07 1988 16:433
    Your going to eat something caught in the Assabet?!?!
    
    			Robert.
783.21plan itPERFCT::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardThu Jul 07 1988 17:095
    
    
    
    Tadry the sicko put's together the plan and I will be there.
    
783.22ASSABETT STEW WILL KILL YOU!STRATA::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsThu Jul 07 1988 18:235
    YO,
        GOOD POINT!  Eat some poor turtle out of the Assabett?! We might
    DIE! I could not do it for "sport". My heart is too kind.
    
                                                   NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~~~
783.23COORS, YUCH!GENRAL::HUNTERfrom SUNNY Colorado, WayneThu Jul 07 1988 19:313
	
    	And if you DRINK the COORS, you could die anyway.  That stuff
    is terrible!!!!!!  (Take it form someone at the source.)
783.24STEER CLEAR OF MY BEER!STRATA::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsThu Jul 07 1988 20:4914
    YO WAYNE,
              Lighten up pal. Thats MY BEER you are taking in vein! I spent
    ten years in COLO. and made frequent trips to the brewery. They
    are class all the way. My rating:
                                      coors banquet- my favorite
                                      Killians - not a thirst quencher
                                                 but a superior ale
                                      Herman JOES - Decent
                                      xtra gold- very good
                                      coors lite- pure water/trash
    Any one of the first 4 will be excellent with turtle meat* You don't
    drink BUD by any chance do you Wayne? That might explain things...
    har har.
                         NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~~~
783.25Glad I don't fish in <<gator>> countryVIDEO::LEVESQUEI fish, therefore I am.Fri Jul 08 1988 12:3028
     I went bass fishing in my dad's canoe with a couple of friends last
    night. We caught a few small bass (12-14") and some crappie. Now
    you're wondering why I'm putting this in a snapping turtle note.
    Well, at one point, we saw a medium sized snapping turtle (about
    2 feet across) *right* next to the boat. All the fish on the stringer
    had started trying to swim away; then we noticed the turtle. We
    picked up the stringer, and there was a large triangular shaped
    marking on the side of the largest bass. I laughed and said that
    we just ruined the turtle's meal.
    
     We drifted away from that turtle, and we didn't think of him again
    for a while. Then my friend Ken, who was fishing crawlers from the
    bow, hooked a slightly smaller snapper, which fortunately spit the
    hook at boatside. We laughed about that since he had only caught
    kibbers before that. A few minutes later, I hooked a *monster* on
    a rubber worm; but agian this turned out to be a snapper. It bit
    my worm cleanly in half. Not five minutes later, our stringer started
    to swim off. Now I was P.O. Jim, the guy in the middle, started
    a tug of war with the medium sized turtle. I started beating him
    over the head with a spare fishing pole. The little bugger straightened
    out the stringer and swam off with the biggest fish!
    
     So all you mighty turtle hunters, go to Robinson Pond in Hudson,
    NH. You can catch many turtles, and relieve us of their nuisance.
    
     The Doctah
    
    P.S. Has this ever happened to you?
783.26HOLD THAT TURTLE!SCOMAN::TADRYFri Jul 08 1988 12:4510
    Where is Robinsons Pond?. Is it cleaner than the Assebet?. Is the
    Assebet really that polluted?, I haven't been around these parts
    too long so I don't have all the "dirt" on whats been screwed up
    and whats ok. I have seen the bumper stickers to "FLUSH" the   
    Assebet so I assume its polluted, I wouldn't eat the turtles anyway,i'd
    let TBDW and co. munch a bunch. And as far as the beer
    goes.....Coors,Bud,Lite,etc,etc....cold and wet is all that counts.
    Even a Knickerboker would due in a (desperate) pinch. 
    
    Ray
783.27Coors in .2416BITS::LUCIAFri Jul 08 1988 12:559
    re .24
    
    Coors is a right-winged fascist company which has holdings in South
    Africa and has un-fair labor practices.
    
    DON'T DRINK COORS BEER!!
    
    Tim (one_of_the_few_liberals_in_new_hampshire)
    
783.28Coors is the one!CTOAVX::EGANFri Jul 08 1988 14:086
    re .27
    
    Do you consider one of the only non-union American breweries
    right-winged and fascist? Must be an ex-union Bud man.
    
    Capt. Dogfish 
783.29Please don't feed the turtlesMOSAIC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsFri Jul 08 1988 14:126
        One way to avoid feeding the turtles off the stringer is...
        
        
        Practicing Catch & Release!             
        
        Don Mac       8^)
783.30Kin we send chew a bunch??DPDMAI::BEAZLEYFri Jul 08 1988 14:1315
    Fixin an eatin tutrles is jes lak fixin an eatin goat. De peoples
    dat fixes dem are NEBER de peoples dat eats dem!!!
    
    Whot chew needs is a oyster knife for scrapin an a big cane knife,
    called a "couteau" for cuttin.
    
    Instead ob purgin dem, whot chew might wont to do is to keep dem
    in a cage for a while an feed dem som chops, kinda lak a hog!! Does
    yer chirrlen need a pet?? Mebbe chew cud start op a bonch ob turtle
    resterants, kinda lak dem catfish ones. Hell, if dem peoples op
    dere lak to eat dere fish raw dey gonna love turtle.
    
    Dey also mak good watchdogs for your home!!
    
    Coonass
783.31Are you sure????GENRAL::HUNTERfrom SUNNY Colorado, WayneFri Jul 08 1988 14:3412
    	YO NIGHTCRAWLER,
    	I made a few of the SHORT TOURS of COORS in college.  (You know?
    Get out of car, go to hospitality center, have 3, back to car, back
    to hospitality center, ...  Had to leave the driver in the hospitality
    center, though, or they wouldn't let us come back for xx times.)
    That was what we did when we didn't have enough money to go buy a 6 pack
    after class.  If there isn't anything else, COORS will do.  (But
    only in a pinch.)  ;-)
    	Anyway, do you also marinate the purging meat for the snappers
    in beer?  Then you don't have to drink the beer when you eat the
    turtles.  You get the best of both worlds at the same time.  Eat,
    drink, and be merry.
783.32RIGHT WING TURTLESSTRATA::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsFri Jul 08 1988 15:1411
    re .28
              You got it! You don't need no stinking union if you take
    care of your people and do right by them. The pay and bennies at
    Coors are as good or better than a union shop/. Right wing? har
    har.
                So where can I get some turtle to eat. I want to try
    it! YO COONASS, I'll send you lobster and you send me cajon' turtle.
    No way you can get it in New England in a resturant.
                
                                       NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~                    
    
783.33Pot pourriVIDEO::LEVESQUEI fish, therefore I am.Fri Jul 08 1988 15:2635
    re .26  Much as I dislike yeller-bellied liberals, I don't think
            this note should be used for a political forum (unless it
            pertains to fishing). So I will refrain from liberal-bashing
            even though I'm sure we could have a spirited discussion.:+)
    
    re .25  Robinson Pond is in southern NH (Hudson) less than an hour
            from PKO or MLO @ the speed I drive. Probably about an hour
            for the rest of you.:-) Directions from Mass:
            Rt 3 North take exit 34 (still in Mass)
            right at end of exit.
            Left at lights at bottom of hill (by new Tyngsboro Police_Sta)
            Right @ next set of lights (follow signs for 3A)
            Go about 5-8 miles on 3A 
            After you pass the little fish market on the right, take
             a right at Central St (at the light)
            Go straight on this rd- turns into Rt 111
            After the lights that are just past Burger King, you go
             about a mile or two; take a left at Lawrence Rd
            Take your first left off of this rd (can't remember the_name)
            Take a left @ Robinson Rd- pond is 1/2 mile up on left
    
            From this spot, the majority of the turtles are on the far
            right hand side of the pond.
    
            *It's easier than it sounds*
    
     re .-n Don- I usually practice catch and release, but the Maine-e-ac
            wanted to eat them. Besides, I DID pratice catch and release:-)
            Too bad it wasn't on purpose!
    
    The Doctah (Buds_my_beer)
    
    
    
    
783.34State of mindSCOMAN::TADRYFri Jul 08 1988 15:4510
    Thanks for the directions, I thought that we were talking about
    Hudson Ma.. In any event, Worm...if you want turtle so bad and TBDW
    is dying to catch them and bringing big Don would be a gas how about
    trying to get together next Weds night for a little turtling on
    the assebet, or where ever. Whadda ya say Molester?. 
    
    Ray
    
    P.S. if nobody really wants to eat them we could release them. Or
    send them to Coonass as watchsnappers.
783.35MPGS::NEALFri Jul 08 1988 16:0516
783.36Coors Beer16BITS::LUCIAFri Jul 08 1988 17:4612
    re: .coors
    
    I notice that noone bothered to dispute the fact that COORS has
    interests in South Africa, which makes them far right and total
    <censored>!  I fail to see any good come out of ANY company that
    persecutes human beings due to race, creed, color, sexual preference,
    etc. and I don't believe it's right to support such a company.
    
    Apologies for lack of a better place to put this note.
    
    Tim
    
783.37SHELL SHOCKEDSCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsFri Jul 08 1988 17:496
    YO TADRY YOU MANIAC,
    
                         FINE. I'll fish for snappahs. I'll fish for
    just about anything. Are we on for this madcap trip TBDW? But no
    BUZZWIZER OK? Wednesday sounds good.
                                              NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~~~
783.38NOT EVERYTHING IS BLACK AND WHITESCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsFri Jul 08 1988 17:577
    RE .36
           YO,
               Unfortunately many things in the world are totally screwed
    up. But NOTHING will stop me from drinking my favorite beverage.
    But I'll tell you this: "I AIN'T GONNA PLAY SUN CITY"
    
                   soon to be fishin' snappers,   NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~~
783.39SNAPPAHSSCOMAN::BACZKOFri Jul 08 1988 18:377
    SNAPPAHS IT IS!!!!!
    
      YO Worm, TBDW, and Moose Face (thats Tadry) so Wednseday we will
    be turtling!!!!     Sounds Great!!   Hey Coonas send up your best
    recipe, TBDW is cooking!!!
    
    Les
783.40Snappers are every where..ANGORA::BUSHEELiving on Blues PowerMon Jul 11 1988 13:4516
    
    	RE: the Snapper hunters
    
    	 If you guys want to do some snapper hunting, I know a place
    	I can take you to that within the evening if you can't catch
    	atleast 15-20 of them you better give up.... Any time ya want
    	to go just send me a mail message and I'll give directions to
    	meet me and show ya around my neck of da woods (snapper ponds).

    
    	G_B
    
    	PS - I was goofing off this Saturday evening and without really
    	trying, I hooked six within a period of two hours.. Kept one
    	for stew that was about 20 pounds..
    
783.41MA. SnappersANGORA::BUSHEELiving on Blues PowerMon Jul 11 1988 13:497
    
    	Oh yeah, I almost forgot. I live in Gardner Ma. (about 30 miles
    	north-west of Marlboro) and da snappers are in just about every
    	pond/lake in that area...
    
    	G_B
    
783.42I'm OPEN FOR ANYWHERE.SCOMAN::TADRYMon Jul 11 1988 15:1810
    HEY G_B....
    Who is ya and where are you talking about!!!!. This isn't a closed
    event so of course your welcome to come along. Were going to move
    the hunt until next week as this week is N/G for a couple of the
    folks who really want to go. So send me a blast on vax mail and
    i'll keep you informed of the date. Looks like next weds..
    
    Ray
    
    P.S......20LBS!!!!!, Hey TBDW gotta pot big enough.???.
783.43Coors Boycott vs SnappahsCASV05::PRESTONNO Dukes!!Mon Jul 11 1988 19:5143
    Re .36
    
>    I notice that noone bothered to dispute the fact that COORS has
>    interests in South Africa, which makes them far right and total
>    <censored>!  

   (why am I doing this..? oh well, here goes...)

   A very well thought out and penetrating analysis, I must say...

   Pardon me for saying so, but I think that this kind of simplistic,
   ultra-liberal, bourgeois-vs-proletariat-all-problems-stem-from-
   capitalistic-oppression-of-the-masses-get-out-of-South-Africa 
   mentality will do more to prolong the racial and social 
   difficulties of that country than anything else. All that the
   empty gesturing of divestment has truly done is make a few South
   African businessmen wealthy by giving them bargains (wanna buy a
   company cheap?) and cause the US to turn to the Soviet Union 
   - or middle men - to obtain vital commodities (like Chromium and 
   rare-earth metals) because no one else has them - and put still 
   more blacks out of work. It also deprives us of the most meaningful 
   long-term platform of influence that we have. If we (US and Europe) 
   had *more* business dealings with SA instead of less, we could 
   have a much more *positive* influence for good over there than we
   do now.

   It's so easy to point the finger at SA and rise up in righteous 
   indignation, yet, in spite of all the inequities of their society, 
   life in SA offers a far better standard of living for blacks than 
   any other country in Africa...

   The problems are real, but this "boycott Coors" attitude accomplishes
   nothing positive and mitigates against any sort of reasonable solutions. 
   While we're at it let's boycott MacDonald's, they have business dealings 
   with the Soviet Union...

   Ed 

   (I'd buy Coors, but they don't sell the kind of beer I drink- root!)

   P.S. Snappahs drink Coors Lite, because it don't slow them down!!


783.44come on alreadySCOMAN::TADRYTue Jul 12 1988 13:169
    WHY "ARE" YOU DOING THIS. ISN'T THAT WHY WE HAVE THE "SOAPBOX NOTE"
    AND THE EDITORIAL SECTION IN THE VOGON NEWS?. LETS STICK TO FISHING
    AND HARRASING EACH OTHER. 
    
    my opinion,
    Ray
    Who believes in liberty and justice for all, even the poor bass
    on the end of my line who will live to see another day, unless the
    Molester is in the bass eating mood. 
783.45SARGENT PRESTOON SPEAKS?SCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsTue Jul 12 1988 15:065
    YO PRESTON:
               seek political office perhaps.....if you continue this
    line of caca I will gladly harrass you. I AM READY FOR 70LB TURTLES!
     
                                              NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~~~~
783.46>>> Preston speaks no more on this...CASV05::PRESTONNO Dukes!!Tue Jul 12 1988 17:1114
783.47From Pennsylvania Dutch countryMJOVAX::OWENSOh sure...ABUSE THE ALIENTue Jul 12 1988 17:185
    Tripe is the pickled stomach lining from a pig.  It is a Pennsylvania 
    dutch delicacy which I'm not about to try.

    FWIW, I agreee that someone needed to fire a return salvo at a
    misplaced shot. Now back to our regularly scheduled program
783.48Have a good time ehSCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsWed Jul 13 1988 13:178
    YO Preston,
                 Thats what I like about this conference! It's all in
    good fun eh (and is informative as well). Nothing like busting someone
    (a pastime for me I must confess). You will also find tripe in CAMBELLS
    PEPPER POT SOUP....check the ingredients. Go ahead and soapbox.
    I don't care. I enjoy a rant and rave. Now, do I need a turtle licence
    or WHAT?!
                                           NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~~~~
783.49No special license in Mass.PLDVAX::BUSHEELiving on Blues PowerWed Jul 13 1988 14:138
    
    	Yo WORM,
    
    	 If you go sanpper hunting ;^) here in the great state of Mass,
    	all you need is a valid fishing license. Same rules apply as
    	with any fishing, only two hooks per line!!
    
    	G_B
783.50EXSCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsWed Jul 13 1988 15:321
    YO,   I LIKE IT!!
783.51save the shellsSCOMAN::KERSWELLWed Jul 13 1988 17:2912
    
    soup lover's
    
    	make sure you pick up a few small 2lb turlte's in your hunt
    
    	reason;s
    	1 the tender young meat for your soup
    	2, the shell will make a nice soup bowl that you can dedicate
    	   to soup.
    
    	YO WORM, these shell's should be able to hold a 16.oz
    		 coor's , but will you be able to lift it????
783.52Try Menudo!PERFCT::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardWed Jul 13 1988 19:406
    
    TRIPE AINT JUST PICKLED PIG TUMMY.
    
    IT is stomach.  Cow, horse, Dog etc depending on were you eat it.
    
    
783.53DPDMAI::BEAZLEYWed Jul 13 1988 22:326
    Down chere de Mexiscans cook it an call it Fajitas. Gud too. Whateber
    happen to dat Scottish-like fellow dat used to tell bout fishin
    ober dere. Wen I wuz ober dere last Febrary I tried som ob dat Haggis
    an it wuz gud!! Anybudy know were I can get some??? Tasted lak tripe.
    
    Coonass
783.54When is a log, not a log?SHIPIT::ROSINSKIThu Jul 21 1988 12:5524
    I'm a novice fisherman, trying to figure out how to catch something
    besides panfish.  Last Saturday morning I was trying out a new Weed
    Wader (I lost my first one on a log).  On my second cast, I once
    again got hooked into some submerged brush.  I pulled hard, and
    slowly started dragging it toward me.  Suddenly, my line started
    moving to the right, and I realized this was no deadfall.  When
    I finally got it close to shore, a Snapper about 20" across popped
    his head out of the water.  This guy was not happy with me, and
    was hissing loudly.  My hook had gone completely through the side
    of his mouth, and wasn't going to come out on it's own.  I was trying
    to figure out how to get my lure back, when my line broke, and he
    swam off.  All you could see was the orange skirt of the lure, and
    the silver spinners flashing as he disappeared.  I saw him several
    more times, as he came up for air, and floated around.  He never
    left the area I caught him in.  Later, I moved to another area,
    and was fishing a rubber worm.  I was plagued by turtles the entire
    time, so I gave up.  This all happened at one of the ponds at Harold
    Parker State Park in Andover, just off RT125.  If your looking for
    turtles, you might want to try there, you could probably eat what
    you catch.  Besides, I know one turtle out there who should be real
    easy to spot, and has a hankerin' for orange and black Weed Waders.
                                                                       
    
    Al
783.55Use Shinners (Bucko's has them)TOOK::SWEETCapt Codfish...Looking for Mr. TunaThu Jul 21 1988 13:527
    Al,
    
       I used to fish the big pond at Harold Parker. Lots of turtles 
    but lots of buck bass...try using shinners, no sunfish but
    plenty of 12 inch bass.
    
    Bruce
783.56What's up?PERFCT::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardThu Jul 21 1988 15:3913
    
    Hey MOOSEFACE, how about the plan for next weds. What's up?
    
    . When
    . Where 
    . Who
    . what boats 
    . What do we need?
    . Did you call Big D?
    
    TBDW
    
    
783.57its never easySCOMAN::TADRYThu Jul 21 1988 16:3013
    HEY GARRRRRRRRRY, the plans have been tough with all you wimps taking
    vacation......geeez, working at DEC and vacations too. Anyway,
     
    . When seems to be down to Aug. 4th a thursday nite.
    . Where is still T.B.D. we just need to decide, it looks like most
      any pond will do. 
    . Who, Who cares....You,the Molester, Big Don, the Worm, myself
      who ever else wants to go.
    . Boats?????, no boats. This is shoreline fishing at its best. Who
      wants a pissed 40 lb turtle running around their boat at night,
      not me. 
    . I told Don and he's all set. He'll bring the films, HA!.
    Okay with you?.
783.58BOATS YEHPERFCT::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardThu Jul 21 1988 16:5011
    
    Sounds ok..
    
    re: Boats
    It may be shore fishing at it's best.. but
    oh yeh forty pounds of p-oed turtle at night could be hairy.. but
    Let's do boats...I will even bring the famous CRAWDAD
    What fun..
    Have you thought about bait?
    
    
783.59CHICKEN NECKSSCOMAN::BACZKOThu Jul 21 1988 20:209
    TBDW,
        Boats will make it more challenging, 
    
     Has far has bait goes, I heard Chicken necks are great, we should
    be able to cut MOOSEFACES up into allot of bait.
    The best bet is to chum the lake the day before with anything like
    chopped up kivers, liver, mooseface necks. etc
    
    The MOLESTOR
783.60always 2 in a crowdSCOMAN::TADRYFri Jul 22 1988 12:537
    Yes Garry boats would be more challenging for those foolhardy few.
    re.-1.....molester, Mooseface necks, nah, their not into delicacies
    their just stupid turtles looking for basic subsistence, maybe you
    could cook something up, maybe. 
    I really think that boat fishing for turtles would be too difficult,
    but if your really want to try it.....what about Quinsiq up past
    the 290 bridge by the culvert that feeds the swamp?.
783.61Sounds lak fun...DPDMAI::BEAZLEYFri Jul 22 1988 16:0324
    Las month down at de camp dere wuz two big snappers op near de house.
    Dey wuz lookin for a place to lay dere aigs.... an dere wuz a big
    ole kin-type snake rat behin to eat dem!!!
    
    I seen more big snappers way away frum de lak dis trip. Mebbe de
    dry weather messed dem op and dey are lookin for sand to lay dere
    aigs.
    
    De bes way to fin turtles at nite is wadin. Wen chew feels sompin
    wit chore toes chew feel where de sides are an den chew dives onder
    an pull him out.. he won bite onder de water, but pick him op on
    both sides an give him sompthin to hold onto, lak a stick or he'll
    pull his head in an chew cant cut it off. Takes bout 10-15 minites
    fo dem to die an chew kin begin cleanin dem. Chew will need a double
    bit ax, a cane knife, a skinnin knife, an som peoples use on ob
    dem lectric knifes.
    
    Been lookin fo a recipe, but can't find one. Eberybody down chere
    jes add de meat to whatever chew are cookin, gumbo, jambalaya, etc...or
    chew mite use it in pleece ob chicken in another recipe.
    
    Good turtlin.....
    
    Coonass
783.62Mmmm Mmmm Good!CASV01::PRESTONNO Dukes!!Fri Jul 22 1988 16:387
    Last night at Shaw's in Nashua I saw "Snapper Turtle" soup for sale
    in the gourmet section - for $2.29 a can! (I didn't buy it) 
    
    Supposed to be a delicacy I guess...
    
    Ed
   
783.63SNAPPAH IN A CANSCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsMon Jul 25 1988 17:545
    RE .62
           YO KNUCKLEHEADS! That's it. Lets just pick up some beer and
    drive to Nashua and buy it! No fuss no muss. (is that french?)
    
                                                     NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~~~~
783.64SnappersCARKEY::GRIFFISWed Feb 22 1989 17:280