Conference wahoo::fishing

    I like the YANKEE FLEET as far as a party boat fishing excursion
    goes. They leave out of Harwich Port. You can go for 4 or 8 hours.
    I have done well each time catching some nice Tautog (blackfish).
              I fished another out of Wellfleet on the Bay side but
    it did not compare. The Captain was a loser and could not find fish.
    Figure about 15 bucks for 4hrs.
     
                                             NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~~

    	Does anyone have the name/s of any party boats that do the over
    night trips ?

        Eight hours just doesn't do it for me. I went on one last year 
    with Chris's out at the end of Plum Island but he isn't doing them
    this year. I know why he isn't doing them too. He doesn't have 
    sleeping accomodations and his first trip in May was a chilly
    one. There were very few that came back for his second trip which
    I was on. As a matter of fact, there were only 12 of us on a 78' boat.
    That was real hard to take ;-)

    	RAYJ

    I think Hilton's in Newburyport does overnights, but you should
    probably call and find out.

    Hiltons does on the new englander, the Yankee fleet in gloucester
    does them to both Cashes and Georges, The Walshes in Lynn run them,
    these trips will run at least $80 to cashes and more to Georges.
    
    Bruce

    Atlantic Fleet in Rye, N.H. and Al Gauron Deep Sea Fishing at Hampton
    Beach N.H. also run a few overnight or early bird trips. Call for more
    info or dates.
    

    Capt. Johns out of Plymouth MA.also runs the overnighter. I believe
    the price is also apx. $80. I went 2 years ago and caught anough
    cod to last me 30 years.....

    Capt JOhns has a nice boat for an overnight...  It's a metal hull,
    fast and has heated hand rails!!
    
    BAssin Bob
    

    How 'bout one to avoid. I don't know if Hyline(spelling?) in Hyannis
    does overnighters, but I hope they aren't as bad as the half-day
    trip I went on (last October). Crowded to the point of asphyxiation.
    I caught about three sea bass and 50 sinkers from other people's
    lines. Thanks, but no thanks!
    

    Yankee Fleet has a 100 footer.
                                    Denny

    	So far I've found out this:
    
    	Hiltons and Al Gauron don't do overnighters any more.
    
    	Smith and Gilmore and Atlantic Fishing fleet does for $70 
    
	Also S + G are booked until mid June and Atlantic until
    	early June on the overnighters.
    
    	S + G runs a 78' fiberglass hull (Lydia (sp?)) and Atlantic
    	a metal hull in the 90-100' length range (girl I spoke to wasn't
    	sure about size but said it was the Captain Red out of Newburyport).
    
    	S + G limits to 40 people and Atlantic to 50 on the overnight
    	trips.
    
	I think I'm going to go for the Atlantic trip only because it's
    	running a little earlier.

    	Atlantic also does 2 day trips for $140. Maybe I'll give that
    	a try next year if this years trip turns out good.

    	RAYJ_whos_still_looking_at_salt_water_outfits

    
    Not sure if this is the correct note, but here goes.
    
    Our group is planning a deep sea day on June 24th (Friday.)
    We're going out of Newburyport (Captain's Fishing Parties) on
    the "New" CAPTAIN'S LADY, a 78 footer. It is an all day affair
    fishing for cod, haddock, etc... The price is $26.25 which includes
    pole and bait. Leaves newburyport at 7:30 - returns around 4:30.
    
    Talked to a guy named Chris. He said we could go with 30 people,
    and so far I have heard from about 20 interested people. If 
    anyone would like to join us, send mail to me with your enet
    address and phone and I'll let you know when we start collecting
    for the trip.
    
    Mike
    Fishn::Goody
    dtn 293-5867
    

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    I'm looking for recommendations for charter boats that could take
    4 to 6 people out to the ledge about 33 miles out of Newburyport
    to fish for Cod, Haddock, what have you. The name of the ledge we
    were on escapes me, but we were jigging 18 oz. diamondback jigs
    in about 300' water. We were surrounded by dolphins, whales, tuna,
    and basking sharks the whole time we were out. We did this about 
    4 years ago, but the captain has since gone off to do other things. 
    We're looking for preferably a weekday leaving from the Mass/southern 
    NH coastline. Can anyone offer any recommendations?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jack
    

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       You can try Hilton's Fishing docks near downtown Newburyport.
    Friday's Globe sports usually has a list. There are also many topics
    in here.
                                                     Denny

    	This is the first trip I ever went on where the boat ran out
    of bait. By the time the end of the day came, all we had left was
    the mushy scallop part of the clams that won't stay on the hook.
    They brought 6 containers (1 gal. each ???) and needed to bring
    10. They gave out the rods shortly after you got on the boat. This
    must have been so the mates could sleep in because there was no
    breakfast, you had to get your own bait and your own fish box. Maybe
    it's me but any boat I've ever been on set up the bait and the fish
    boxes to put your fish in before the first line hit the water. I
    don't know why (since reservations were made a month in advance)
    but one of the mates said they thought they did pretty good considering
    the trip was thrown together at the last minute.
    
    	I can't say for sure but it appears the captains were playing
    games. Towards the end they would put us into fish and when the
    bait situation got critical they would move to a spot with little
    or no action. This is the only explanation I can think of why you'd 
    move when at any given time, at least one out of every 5 people had 
    a fish on. BTW - the above "captains" was not a miss print. My friend 
    asked why there were 2 and they said the auto pilot was broken.
    
    	In spite of all this, my father, my friend and myself wound
    up with about 60-70 lbs. of fillets, mostly cod. Big fish on the
    boat was a 29 lb. cod. My father got a 12 lb. wolf fish and I got 
    a cusk about the same size. 
    
    	It could have been worse I suppose but with a little more planning,
    it could have been great. If I get time I'm going to see if I can
    get in touch with the owner of Atlantic Fishing Fleet and see exactly
    what the scoop was with that trip.
    
    	RAYJ

    BTW - The name of the boat was Captain Red.

    Was this the overnighter? If it was, I think I know the story.
    
    Steve

	I've been out several times over the past 2 years on
	Yankee Fleet out of Gloucester.   They always have lots
	of bait available and I'm always amazed by their crew (when
	it comes to helping you out with tangled lines etc). 
	I highy recommend them...

       Another vote for Yankee Fleet. I've been using them for years.
    I used to go on their overnighter every June. But, it's too expensive
    now.
                                                          Denny

    
    I'm going out on the Yankee Fleet sunday night.  Going out on the
    Yankee Capts.  We are heading out to Cashes Ledge.  I'll give a
    report when I get back.  From what I hear it's a good trip. The
    Georges Bank trip might be better.
    
    	Info:	Yankee Fleet
    		75 Essex Ave.
    		Rte. 133 & Gloucester Harbor
    		Gloucester, MA 01930
    
    		Tel: 617-283-0313
    
    	Ken

    re:14
    		Yes, this was the overnighter.
    
    	Ray

    re.14    steve , would you mind sharing with us what think the story
    	     was. I would be interested in any theories.
    
    I know this is of little help and you may be totally against
    it but a great number of people like to bring there own bait
    anyway.
    
    I know you are spending a great deal of money and say that this
    is unnessarry ( I agree ) but there are times that using your own
    bait will give you an edge and might even put you into a pool
    fish.
    
    I will say that this should be buy choice and the skipper
    should supply all bait necessarry but if you do decide
    to take some of your own you can bring frozen sand eels,
    frozen Herring, small frozen mackrel ( sp ), sand worms,
    clams soaked in antiset ( sp ) and or native maine shrimp.
    
    It is a bad rap when the skipper doesn't bring enough
    bait..
    I have been on some boats that don't supply any bait.
    
    The Sonny W use to be that way.
    
    Bear
                                                              

    re. 14 etc.
    
    I know the owner of AAF, his name is Brad Cook. I use to work once
    in a while for AAF before Brad bought into the business. I'll check
    with Brad for the real story, but he's my theory.
    
    Brad sold one of his boats this winter. He had several reasons for
    doing it, but a big reason was there is no water at low tide in
    Rye harbor. He got tired of trying to keep two boats floating.
    He had already made plans to run offshore trips this summer with
    the boat he sold so he worked out a deal with Hiltons' Capt. Red.
    
    The Capt. Red is a new boat to fishing, it was built to serve a
    commuter boat in Boston Harbor. I guess the contract ended, so the
    boat was pressed into fishing service. That may be where the trip
    seemed to be thrown together. The real reason for two captains is
    CG regs. If a trip is X hours long and/or X miles offshore, two
    complete capt/crews are needed. 
    There is no reason to run out of bait. But having worked these trips
    before, it is generally assumed that most people will be jigging.
    The may be why they ran out.
    I talked with Peter one of the captains, he said fishing was pretty
    good, large cod etc.
    
    I would suggest giving them an other try, it was their first trip
    on a new (to fishing) boat.
    
    Steve

    	I just got off the phone with the owner and he said that he
    thought they brought 15 tins of bait on that trip. I told him that
    I only counted 6 containers. He did say that the boat should have
    been set up by the mates (i.e. distribute bait and fish boxes) and
    that this will be addressed and taken care of immediately. He also
    verified about the recent change from commuter to fishing boat and
    that there are a couple of things to work out.
    
    	In general, he was receptive to my concerns and assured me that
    they will be taken care of. I will probably give them another try
    next year and see how it works out. 
    
    	As I said before, it was a good trip in spite of the problems.

    	RAYJ

       It would have been nicer of him if he offered you a free trip,
    or at least a nice discount.
                                                           Denny

    Dream on.

    
    Well, I went on the overnighter on the Yankee Capt. out of Glouster.
    The weather was great. Calm seas 1-2 foot waves.  The fishing wasn't
    that great.  I caught ten cod and a couple pollock.  A friend of
    mine caught about 20 cod, his largest 17 lb.  The biggest on the
    boat was 27 lbs.  One haddock was caught about 15 lbs on the boat.
    I was using 14 oz diamond jig with a couple of pink teasers.  Comparing
    bate fishing to jigging it was about equal.  The boat went out to
    Cashes Ledge and 280 feet of water.  I had a good time, but the
    fishing could of been alot better.  Its time for the warm water
    fish.  I think I'll head to Port Judith next.  
    
    C ya 
    Ken
    

    Not to all you guys thinking of a cashes trip in a small boat...The
    fishing there does not sound any better than what we have been
    experiencing.In fact I honestly believe that the best fishing maybe
    inshore in some holes or off some ledges that you have to find yourself
    and the commercial guys have not picked clean!!
    
    Capt Where_are_the_Codfish?
    

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>   
>    I'm going out on the Yankee Fleet sunday night.  Going out on the
>    Yankee Capts.  We are heading out to Cashes Ledge.  I'll give a
>    report when I get back.  From what I hear it's a good trip. The
>    Georges Bank trip might be better.
    
    Well, 5 of us went to check out the Yankee Fleet last Sunday.  Since
    we didn't know anything about the Fleet and 2 of the 5 had never gone
    deep sea fishing, we made the 1/2 day trip.  I made reservations
    Friday with Master Card and were informed we should arrive by 7:45
    and that our tickets would be held up to 1 minuite before the boat
    left.  Upon arriving Sunday at 7:45, we were told they had accidentally
    given away out tickets and that we would have to wait till 1 minute
    before the boat left to see if anyone didn't show so.  We were not
    amused.  I pointed to MY name with MY telephone number with MY Master
    Card number 1/2 way down the list of people with reservations. 
    "Well," she said, "it would make it easier for me if I didn't have
    to speak to the manager if some people don't show up and I give
    you their tickets."  Sounds like she's covering her ass for giving
    away our tickets.  It turned out enough people didn't show and we
    did get on but we were the last one's on and there wasn't any room
    on the lower deck so we road on top till it was fishing time.\
    
    We didn't have our own gear so we rented on board.  Since were were
    on the top deck, we were one of the last to get rentals.  By the
    time they got to us, there weren't any rods jigged up and we had
    to wait for them to get the broken ones put back together again.
    But we were lucky, the last group of 3 people were told they did
    NOT have any rods left.  Don't know if they got their money back.

    The 1/2 day trip made 4 stops.  Where ever we could find a rail
    was where we fished the entire time.  The boat was too crowded and
    every part of the rail was being used.  The first stop brought up
    dozens of dog fish.  Since the lines were so densly packed, when
    one was caught it tangles lines with them.  People were not amused.
    During rest of the day our side of the boat caught about a 1/2 dozen
    code, 2 ells, and a red fish (not counting the sand sharks of course.)
    Considering the number of people along the rails, we batted less than 
    a fish per person.  My, I caught a total of 4 sharks, no keepers.
    
    They crew on the Yankee Clipper were class A people.  They were
    very quick to help the dozens of tangled lines, re-jig the lost
    weights and hooks, un-snag you from the bottom, untangle the many
    reels that were used incorretly, and unhook your fish.  They had
    more than enough bait on board for 5 times any people that were
    on board.
    
    I don't know if I'd go back.  I'd think about going for a whole
    day since it might have less first timers on board.
    
    Well, that was my experience on the Clipper.
    
    Kenney

    Just wanted to say this in general about party boat fishing in july
    and august...especially half day trips. If you want to catch fish
    don't waste your time. Half day trips should be viewed as boat
    rides for the non fisherman. In july the dogs are thick as can
    be. The best time for NE party boats is Apr, MAy and ealry June.
    Start going in mid sept and oct in the fall. I do not think
    any half day party boat in mid summer is good for much but a nice
    ride.
    
    Bruce

    Anyone know of any party boats in Maine that go on night bluefishing
    expeditions. Interested mostly in Fort Popham area but will consider
    other Maine coastal spots.

	I took the Yankee Captain boat out o' Gloucester on Yankee Fleet
	yesterday for Cod, etc, on the 7-4 trip.  It was probably the
	worst trip I've ever been on (except I won the pool between the
	6 of my friends ;-)).   I've been out on Yankee a lot before,
	but always on the Yankee Pride boat and it was always a great trip.

	The Yankee Captain was a big boat @ 100 feet.   First, they confiscated
	all the beer from the coolers.  They are _very_ strict about bringing 
	your own beer now, so don't bother.  Instead of tasty import, you have
	cans o' bud and bud light (blech!)  Things have changed. I guess someone
	overdid it last year so they are enforcing the laws.  Fishing was very 
	slow, the captain said it was due to a slack tide. (?)  Lots of time 
	was spent going around in circles very slowly, so fishing time was cut
	down, but it didn't make any difference.  The crew and captain was 
	sarcastic but helpful.  You don't need to hear sarcastic jokes when 
	the fishing is slow and then they fart around so much.

	I'll never take Yankee Captain again, but I would take Yankee Pride
	again.  Just my opinion...

	Fishing:  jigs took very little, best bet was with bait, vey few dogfish
	in sight.  2 Haddock were taken around 6-7 pounds.


	/Ken

	I'm thinking of doing a Georges Bank overnight trip in the next
	couple of weeks.  I hear the cod fishing can be fantastic on 
	these trips.  We'll probably go out of Clipper Fleet in Salisbury.

	Is this a good time of year to go ?  Anyone have experience on
	Clipper for the overnighters ?

	/Cap'n Ken

I am looking  to charter a boat out of Boston Harbor for a half day or so
to do some fishing.  This is for a bachelor party.  Therefore, catching fish
is not nearly as important as drinking beer and laughing at the guy who catches
the smallest fish.  It will probably be neccessary to exclusively charter 
a boat for about 15 guys since we don't want to offend any serious fisherman.
Fishing equipment and bait must be supplied.

Also, anything out of Falmouth would work also!

thanks,

tim

    not trying to put a damper on your party. BUT, charter skippers,
    
    are avoiding this situation like the "PLAGUE".  You see their
    
    responsible for your as$ when your out there.....  
    
    good luck,
    
    Jim.

    I read through as musch as I could, and didn't see anythinc current, so
    I thought I'd put this note in to see if anyone had any recommendations
    for a party boat in Mass/So. NH to fish for blues. I read that people
    were getting blues on Stellwagen recently, and wanted to know if there
    was a good boat to go out on to try our luck for them.
    
    I saw that several outfits went out for blues (at least in prior years)
    in another note, and wanted to know if any still did, and who was good.
    
    Any help would be appreciated.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jack
    

    I don't have a lot of CURRENT info on party boat bluefishing, but there
    does not seem to be a lot. Here's what little I know. Maybe it will
    help:
    
    1. There's a boat in Rye NH that goes out for blues at least at night.
    I was on it a few years back and did well. I don't remember the name of
    it.
    
    2. The Yankee Fleet in Gloucester, I think, runs evening and night
    bluefishing parties.
    
    3. I think the Capt. George, Captains Fishing Parties, at the end of
    Plum Island goes out for blues.
    
    4. I have heard that the Sea Wife out of Marblehead also does some
    bluefishing.
    
    I doubt any of these boats would go to Stellwagon for blues, but they
    often get them near their harbors. If you want to go to Stellwagon
    (which is often an adventure where you can see whales and tuna putting
    on a show), you probably will have to charter a boat. There are lots
    around, but the guy I usually go with is out of Scituate. 
    
    It's a small boat -- a 24 footer -- and he takes a max of four
    passengers. He adjusts his rates depending on the number of passengers.
    He charges $300 for 4 people for 8 hours. It's less for fewer people.
    His name is Pat Riley. His number is 617-545-9643. He will go out to 
    Stellwagon if the weather cooperates. If not, he often catches blues
    outside of Scituate harbor and near the North River.
    
    You can also check out the Boston Globe Charter Boat Directory which is
    in the sports section on Thursday, Friday and Saturday.
    
    Have fun. Now through September is the time to go.
    
    Art
    
    

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>    I read through as musch as I could, and didn't see anythinc current, so
>    I thought I'd put this note in to see if anyone had any recommendations
>    for a party boat in Mass/So. NH to fish for blues. I read that people

	Clipper Fleet (Salisbury) and Hilton's (Newburyport) run 1/2 day 
	blues trips, but I don't think that they start until mid July at the
	earliest when the blues are closer to shore and Salisbury/Newburyport.
	These 2 places are right across the river from each other, near the
	mouth of the Merrimac River.

	Usually the boats are crowded and it's hit or miss, but I did get
	my first bluefish ever off Hilton's last year.  
	
	If you want to travel to Rhode Island, the Gail Frances out of 
	Pt Judith runs a night trip (6:30 p.m. - 2:00 a.m.) that I went on
	last September and it was incredible non-stop action.  I'd think
	the action would start sooner the further south you go.  

	Ken

    Our Boy scout Troop is planning a Deep Sea Fishing Trip for May or
    June.  We are located in Milford, Ma.  Can anyone help us with Party
    Boat information for the Cape, Providence RI, or NH?  Which locations
    are better?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Louis
                                                  
                                                           

      If some of you are looking for a 6 passenger deep sea fishing charter
    out of Newburyport I would highly reccomend you contact the
    "Obsession III's" captain Bob Jones (603-362-4864).  Last years prices
    were $360.00 full day everything included (rods, reels, bait/jigs).
    The Obsession III is a 36' wooden hull, powered by a 300hp turbo
    Cat. diesel.  Bob runs both bottom fishing and blue fish charters.
     Bob is a personal friend of mine and I been on this boat many times.
    I've seen many fish over 30lbs caught (I've even caught a couple over
    30lbs. myself).  
     You can even bring that beer in the green bottle if you want.
    
    Give him a try, 
    
    Bruce
    
    P.S.  The 30lb fish do not come every day !! 

    Has anyone ever chartered the Sea Witch out of Barnstable Harbor. The 
    Captain is Singleton??? If so any input as to the quality of the
    fishing/ Captains ability ETC....
    
    Thanks,
    
    Steve