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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

633.0. "Salt Water Fishing Atlas" by MTBLUE::OKERHOLM_PAU () Fri Mar 18 1988 15:31

	Now that I am equipped with a new 3/4 ton pickup I am planning to 
trailer my boat this season. With this new mobility I am considering a trip 
or two "down south" to extend my salt water fishing season. I have been 
reading a lot about Point Judith R.I. and was wondering if anyone could fill 
me in on such info as launch points, accomodations (cheap), bait/tackle shops,
when the seasons for various fish start - end, where to fish etc.. I picked 
R.I. because the trip would probably be 5 hrs or less from my home in Maine
(near Augusta). If there are other areas within 3 hrs or so of Boston I'd 
like to hear about them also.
	I am primarily interested in fishing for something that I can't
get locally in Maine. I wouldn't travel that far for bottom fishing, blues
or strippers for example unless it is really exceptional down there. School
tuna and weakfish come to mind as possible targets.
	My boat is a 22' Aquasport. I have taken it 20+ miles offshore
but I don't think its a canyon runner - although words of encouragement could
probably pursuade me to try it :^). I don't know how flexible I can be around 
time changes, so getting there on the "perfect weekend" is up to chance and 
inshore alternatives should probably be part of the plan in case of rough 
conditions.
	Also, in searching the notesfile prior to writing this note I found 
very little information on salt water fishing locations. Maybe this note could
become an atlas of sorts for favorite salt water fishing spots.
	
Regards,
Paul
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633.1South of Block Isle.SMURF::AMATOFri Mar 18 1988 17:3017
    Hi Paul,
    
    I would recommend trying either the yellowfin or school blufin once 
    they show up nice and thick in August off of Block Island.  Or else
    you can try the marlin in the same general area.  There is a marlin
    tournament that is run by a shop near my boat in early July if your
    interested.  But at that time the fishing is 30-50 miles off of
    Cuttyhunk.  Later on toward the end of August, the same guy that
    runs the tournament claims that the marlin are within 5-10 miles
    of Marthas.  Give me a call if you want some numbers of areas that
    I had good luck with last year.  If I can scrape up the $$$ for
    the marlin tourney, I might head down for that.  If I do go and
    you want to enter, I'll be happy to go out as a pair of boats. 
    I'ld ask you to come as crew, but I think that I've already got
    someone.  
    
    Joe A.
633.2Narragansett Bay, Block Island, L.I. Sound SA1794::CUZZONESdown the hatch without a scratchFri Mar 18 1988 18:3014
    
    Paul,
    
    I've been to Pt. Judith a couple times but never took a close look
    at launch facilities ( was there before I owned a boat ).  The last
    time I was there, the seas were fearsome enough to sink a Whaler.
    
    I did scout a public launch in Narragansett (10 miles back up the
    road from Pt. J.) that looked real good and had the advantage of
    safer boating in the bay if conditions took a turn for the worse.
    Also had nice accomodations and a town beach nearby.  If I can locate
    a map, I'll draw up directions and mail to you.
    
    Steve
633.3SUN RUNNERJAWS::DEZZANIWed Mar 23 1988 16:4619
    I have a boat that I keep in So. RI (Charlestown) where I have a
    Summer home.  My normal fishing grounds are around Block Island.
    If you are looking for something different I suggest the Yellow
    Fin Tuna run.  They show up in good numbers when they are in and
    they are great on the grill.  Yellow Fin are tricky to catch and
    it took a couple of years for my fishing partner and I to catch
    on.  Generally you have to anchor in deep water, 150-180 feet
    deep and chum.  I have not had any luck trolling, you either have
    to be very lucky or really know what you are doing.
    
    You mentioned Weakfish.  We have not had a good run of weak off
    Block Islan for the last few years.  Last year I saw one fish. 
    I don't know wht the problem is, hpoefully it is a cycle.
    
    There are many places to launch that are not too expensive, $10-$15
    and bait and tackle are easy to find.
    
    If you decide to be serious, give me a call or send a note on the
    network and I'll be happy to give you more info.  
633.4Sink a Whaler....Never!PSYCHE::DECAROLISThu Mar 24 1988 15:139
    Re: 633.2
    
    Steve,
    
    You can't sink a Whaler!!!  Even when quartered they still stay
    afloat!  :) :)
    
    Jeanne
    
633.5Yellow fin or bustTOOK::SWEETCapt. Codfish...Jeffries Ledge or BustThu Mar 24 1988 16:0111
    Paul,
    
      I am planning on trailering my 21 ft Chris down to point judith
    in august for yellow fin. I fished off there with joe last year
    a have a good feeling for how to catch them. There is a least one
    ramp at the end of the salt pond that looks like it would handle
    boats of our size. Bait is available on the water from around
    5:30 am. Mostly chum with frozen butterfish and standup tackle in
    the 50-80 class. Lets try to hook up for a run down there.
    
    Bruce
633.6Lobsta potsAD::GIBSONFri Mar 25 1988 16:0621
    Hello Bruce.
    I think that this might be a good place to write this. I was woundering
    if you had already bought Lobster traps and if you had not maybe
    we could get as many people together as might be interested and
    see if we could get a Quanity discount for a large purchace.
    
    What do you think? 
    
    Have you any price Quotes from places in new england? I have a trailer
    that we could pick them up in.
    
    I will be keeping the new boat at  City boat works marina in
    newburyport this year. and plan to fish lobster as well as dive
    for them.
    
                                                Walt Gibson
    
                                                Rainbow Chaser
    
                                                568-6501  or Null::Gibson
    
633.7Not ordered yetTOOK::SWEETCapt. Codfish...Jeffries Ledge or BustFri Mar 25 1988 17:0511
    Walt,
    
    I have not ordered the pots yet. I did send in my license application
    so I am somewhat committed (all fisherman should be committed according
    to their wives). I want to check the want adds a couple of times
    for used traps. One guy in burlington had some for $25 a piece that
    had been fished for about 2 months.
    
    Anyone else have an interest in buying pots?
    
    Bruce
633.8POT PRICES (not smoking)REGENT::BURBINEFri Mar 25 1988 18:0812
re: .7 & .6

Walt and Bruce,

I thought I had seen a price somewhere in here but can not recall 
so I called Cape Marine down the Cape.(actually around the corner 
from my house about a mile or so).
They are getting 29.75 for the wire pots, 2.10 for sticks 
(plastic) and 2.00 for floats. If these prices interest you
give me a holler.
norm

633.9definately interestedMTBLUE::OKERHOLM_PAUFri Mar 25 1988 19:099
    Re> .5
    	
    	Capt. Codfish,
    		I would definately like to try a two or more boat
    Yellowfin Safari out of Pt Judith this Summer. I'll be in touch
    probably in late June or early July to work out the details. 
    Joe - do you want to make it a threesome?

    	Paul
633.10Check note 520.18TOOK::SWEETCapt. Codfish...Jeffries Ledge or BustFri Mar 25 1988 19:244
    check my note in 520.18 for pot prices in E. Boston, they are less
    than your quote.
    
    Bruce
633.11SUN RUNNERJAWS::DEZZANIFri Mar 25 1988 19:465
    Do we have enough Yellow Fin "experts" out there to arrange a trip
    next August?  It would be fun to meet people that are only nodes
    on a wire.  Any takers?  Perhaps we can put together a pack of several
    boats.  Location can be important so we have to follow the action
    once it starts.
633.12cape ann to pt jude anyone?SMURF::AMATOSun Mar 27 1988 14:3128
    Paul,
    
    I'ld love to bring my boat down there for a mass excursion.  But
    since I don't trailer, and it's now in Danvers, Ma, the $$ to get
    down and back might be too much for my accountant (read wife :-)).
    I'll probably just hitch a ride with CC.  I might be talked into
    taking mine down tho, if there were any othere people/boats running
    their boats down there for a weekend.  More boats making the drive
    gives me a better argument with my wife.  
    
    re .-1)
    
    Dezzi, I do believe that Walt or Norm (it's been so long since I've
    checked that note I forgot who set it up) has started organizing
    just such a trip.  I think it was more towards Martha's Vineyard
    than Point Judith.  
    
    Anybody else want to run there boats down from Cape Ann area to
    the Pt Jude area for a weekend of yellowfin?  Or anybody want to
    hitch a ride and help with $$.  I only burn 7gal/hr at 24kt cruise,
    and its about a 5 hr ride to pt Jude from Danvers.  Make for a nice
    weekend.  Paul, how 'bout trailing your boat to Danvers, and then
    we'll take'em both down by water ;-)!  By the way Paul, when do
    you start sharkin?  I'ld like to try again this year, but I don't
    know when the best time to start is up here.
    
    joe a 
    
633.13SharksMTBLUE::OKERHOLM_PAUMon Mar 28 1988 11:4510
    Joe,
    	Sharks seem to follow the same calendar as bluefish. When you
    hear that the bluefish are in, so are the sharks. Around here you
    can pick them up from late June till late September with mid July
    through late August being the best.
    	As far as the trips go, I think Norm was originaly planning his 
    trip as a one boat excursion early in the season. I signed up to go
    sans boat but from the response he got to his note he may need a whole
    fleet. 
    Paul                           
633.14Gonna tuna fish this year...TOOK::SWEETCapt. Codfish...Jeffries Ledge or BustMon Mar 28 1988 13:515
    As I said earlier, yellowfin off block in august is a must this
    year. Capt. Joe always has first rights as co pilot on the "Sweet
    Dream".  Let's watch the reports and do it!
    
    Bruce
633.15set/process FRIDAY=gone fishingREGENT::BURBINEMon Mar 28 1988 16:1816
re: < Note 633.13 by MTBLUE::OKERHOLM_PAU >
    	", I think Norm was originaly planning his 
    trip as a one boat excursion early in the season."

Paul,
I plan to try and fish every Friday during the summer that's why 
I was looking for crew to help out with the expenses. I will this 
week update the list of people whom have expressed interest in 
going for a day. I was thinking of doing some shark fishing early 
in the season since the Yellow Fin do not come around too early.
I will probably start a new note called "Team Tuna" and this will 
tie it into tha past one .
I hope to uncover the 'ANZO' this coming weekend.
norm


633.16Tuns of TunaAD::GIBSONMon Mar 28 1988 16:2113
    Tuna it is, I just picked up a couple of pro-manta belts this weekend
    at zylas in merrimack. only $50. ea . tell em walt sent ya.
    
    This is the year for tuna, I just have that feeling. I'm ready for
    a flotilla to pt judith or werever they are. Just give me a call
    and I'll convince my wife that it would be good for me to get away
    to relax and the price they pay for tuna wouldn't hurt the argument
    one bit.
    
    Does anyone have info on what licences are needed, limits, ect..?
    
                                                    Walt
    
633.17Mass Commercial LicenseTOOK::SWEETCapt. Codfish...Jeffries Ledge or BustMon Mar 28 1988 16:397
    In Mass (actually this is nationaly) you need a federal permit to take 
    Bluefin (free) and to sell any fish over 100lbs you need a commercial 
    license that is $100. from Mass div. of Marine Fisheries. 
         
    I have heard you need some sort of license in RI??
                     
    Bruce
633.18JAWS::DEZZANIMon Mar 28 1988 17:158
    In RI you have to have a Blue Fin license, that's a federal requirement
    since the catch is controlled.  Yellow Fin are open, to sell them
    all you have to do is carry them into the fish pier.  There are
    several marinas in Pt.Jude that specialize in Yellow Fin.  When
    the run is good they generally don't bring more than $1-$1.50 a
    pound so don't plan to retire on a trip.  Not bad to cover gas
    costs if you can get a couple of them.  Personally, anything I catch
    will NEVER make it past the freezer.
633.19Way Down South In The Land Of Big FishMAMTS2::VCARUSOTue Mar 29 1988 20:187
    How bout down in the Garden State? NJ.  Curious as to whether or not
    a license is needed down here.  I plan to do some Yellowfin fishin'
    and might decide to sell just a few to cover expenses, and dont
    wanna get locked up.  Well maybe a fine, not locked up.  
    
    Vince Caruso...............Listening_for_the_clicker............
    
633.20SCOUT TRIPWFOVX3::CHANGWed Apr 27 1988 16:409
    HI ROGER HERE
    
    	NEED SOME HELP I AM TAKING SOME BOY SCOUTS DOWN TO PT JUD THIS
    SUMMER FOR DEEP SEA FISHING. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THE FISHING COMPANIES
    TAKE GROUPS OUT FISHING,AND WHAT ARE THE RATES FOR GROUPS. WHEN
    SHOULD I TAKE THEM DOWN WANT TO TAKE THEM FOR BLUES FIGURE IT WOULD
    BE EXCITING FOR THEM. IS THERE IS MIN GROUP SIZE ONLY TAKING ABOUT
    4 TO 6 BOYS. TKS IN ADVANCE
    					WFOVX3 ROGER
633.21click...click....clickNYEM1::HORWITZWed Apr 27 1988 17:3110
    Re -2
    Vince, I asked around at JCAA last night, and the only Tuna License
    needed in NJ is the Federal Bluefin permit. 
    
    
    But don't hold me liable for this info.
    A call to Fish & Game could verify, especially if there are any
    regs regarding sale.
    
    Rich