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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
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843.0. "2nd Annual Fall Fishing Noters Interstate Tournament" by RAINBO::MACINTYRE (Fish are rising up like birds) Fri Aug 12 1988 15:31

WHERE :  Monomonac Lake, Rindge, NH 
WHEN  :  Saturday, Oct 1, 1988 - 7:00 AM to 3:00 PM
WHO   :  Anyone is invited as long as one member of the team is a DEC employee.
WHAT  :  2 man Team Event (2 people per boat)
FEES  :  $20/team and (optional) $5/person for the Hawg Pool
LIMITS:  10 bass/team 
SIZE  :  12" minimum length, measure with pinched tail.

Lake Monomonac resides on the Rindge, NH - Winchendon, Mass border, which
means that boat registrations and fishing licenses for either state will do.
This is why we have selected Monomonac for most of our interstate tournies.

The launch is located at the marina in NH, directions to which will follow.

This will be our 4th tournament at Monomonac, we're going to try and continue
to hold on here each spring and fall.  

As stated above, any two man team consisting of at least one DEC employee
is welcome to attend.  A boat of some sort is required, be it a canoe, 
150hp bass boat, big water cruiser, or anything in between.  

Join us!  Send mail to RAINBO::MACINTYRE to register.

-Don Mac 

RULES:

1.   HAVE FUN!

2.   Violators of Rule #1 may be banned from all future events!

3.   ONLY artificial lures allowed - NO live/dead bait allowed (excluding
     pork strips/frogs).

3.   ONLY ONE line/person in the water at a time.

4.   NO trolling.

5.   "CATCH & RELEASE" policy in effect.

6.   50 Yard Rule - All boats must keep at least 50 yards distance from 
     another boat's "territory."  No crowding-in.

7.   PAYOFFS! - There will be a 50%-30%-20% spit of the pool for 1st, 2nd,
     and 3rd place teams.  The Hawg Pool goes to the person weighing the 
     heaviest bass.  In the event of a tie, winner will be determined by 
     greatest length.
 
8.   Starting time will be 7AM prompt from the marina.  All powered boats
     with motors > 5 HP will draw for starting positions.  Canoes & boats
     with < 5 HP will leave AFTER all powered boats depart to prevent 
     potential swamping from their wakes.

9.   Final weigh-in will be at 3:00 PM at the launch site for ALL.  Given 
     that this event is an all-day affair, it should not be necessary to 
     grant additional time extensions for the smaller boats.

10.  DEAD FISH AT WEIGH-IN - There will be an 0.50lbs penalty for any dead
     fish.  Also there will be a 1 lbs penalty for short fish.

11.  See Rule #1!
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843.1count us inSTRATA::TADRYFri Aug 12 1988 16:432
    Atta boy Don.......The team of Ray Tadry and Lester the Molester
    Baczko will be there. Right Les?. 
843.2I'm psyched!SCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEFri Aug 12 1988 17:135
    YO,
        It goes without saying,
                                  NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                   and his pard,  JUAN COROZON'
                                                  will be there!
843.3The Big Goose Egg might have to miss outCECV03::SURRETTEFri Aug 12 1988 17:2412
    Sounds great, except my partner is getting married that day, and
    I'm in the wedding party.  Any chance of movin' it up One week ??
    
    If not have fun (I would have liked to try to redeem myself considering
    the showing I made last time.)
    
   Make Sure EVERYONE follows rule #1, Although I cannot see how you
   couldn't ;^)
    
    Good Luck to all !!
    
    
843.4A definte first entry!!!!SCOMAN::BACZKOFri Aug 12 1988 17:5212
    Re.  .1
    
         Thats Ray "MOOSEFACE" Tadry!!!
    
    Hey Oct. 1 is my birthday  We are bound to win!!!!
    
    Whats this MOLESTER stuff???
              
    Dont forget Mooseface the States are Oct. 8 & 9, and you got a real
    good shot at being in them.
    
    Les
843.5VAX4::TOMASJoeFri Aug 12 1988 18:062
HOLESHOT JOE will be there!  Partner to be announced later!
843.6schedulesRAINBO::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsMon Aug 15 1988 12:1020
    re: moving the date
    
    Well, before choosing that date I spoke with a few of the teams
    that usually attend these prestigious events, and this is the date
    we came up.  Between our own club tournies, state finals, and yes,
    even weddings (yes, folks, one of our fellow noters is about to
    tie the knot - and I don't mean a palomar knot!)   
                                                    .
    Anyway, it's still a ways off.  If it does turn out that the 
    -majority-  of people interested request a different date, then
    we'll look into it.  But for now, we'll keep on this track and see
    what hapens.
    
    We're looking good, we have a bunch of teams already. I'll post
    the entry list on Friday and will update it (if necessary) once
    a week.  
    
    Keep `em coming,
    
    Don Mac
843.7Official Entry AnnouncementCIMNET::DSULLIVANMon Aug 15 1988 14:1313
    
    
    Consider this an official entry announcement
    
    Dave  (Bassmaster) Sullivan teamed up with
    Brian (Gone Fishin') Gaffney
    
    This is certainly to be a pair which will beat 3 of kind
    any day of the week.
    
    I am assuming since the WORM~~~~~ will be there that Anhauser-Bush
    products will be allowed in the coolers during the tournament. However,
    I will never assume...
843.8VAX4::TOMASJoeMon Aug 15 1988 15:258
>>    This is certainly to be a pair which will beat 3 of kind
>>    any day of the week.
    
A pair of what...LADIES??

I LUV IT! New names and new faces! Keep them entries coming....I NEED THE $$$!

-HSJ-
843.9a week earlier or later????CSSE::PETERSENMon Aug 15 1988 16:0413
    Hey Guys -
    
    Didn't anyone notice that October 1st is also opening day for Grouse
    Timberdoodles and Wabbits in N.H.?!!
    
    I was hoping to get in one of these tournies this year, but 
    I've already got reservations at Wander Inn on Back Lake, last three
    days of trout fishing then three days of great bird hunting.  
    
    Oh well, there's always an icefishing tourny - isn't there??!!!
     
    Erik_who_can't_wait_too_see_the_early_morn_frost_on_Oct1st_
      
843.11M.E. reg boat???BIGALO::VORHIS_ALMon Aug 15 1988 17:119
    With all of the different rules concerning boat registrations in
    NH , does anyone know if a poor farm boy from Maine could bring
    his rowboat and enter this contest without worring about registrations
    etc.
    
    thanks,
    
    Al
    
843.12ahyupRAINBO::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsMon Aug 15 1988 17:193
    A non-powered row boat may be used in either state, even without 
    registration.  A powered boat with Maine registration may be used
    also, since Mass is reciprocol with Maine.  don mac 
843.13VAX4::TOMASJoeMon Aug 15 1988 17:274
Hey Al, you gonna come down for this event and show us how you MAINiacs 
fish??  Look forward to meeting you!

-HSJ-  
843.147:00 is awful earlySA1794::CUZZONESIt's better to burn out ...Mon Aug 15 1988 18:405
    Against my better judgement, sign me up.  Applications for the
    privledge of partnership may be addressed to ARMORY::CUZZONES.
    
    Steve
    
843.15Last years fall winners return!HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysMon Aug 15 1988 18:416
Who picked a saturday for this one!!  It is my plants Canobee Lake day!
    Boy will the wife be upset about this one!~
    
    Add Bassin Bob and R/O Palmer to the list!
    
        
843.16PERFCT::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardMon Aug 15 1988 19:473
    
    Please add RR and BACK DECK WIZARD
    
843.17REMEMBER RULE #1.....PHILEM::VACHONMon Aug 15 1988 20:147
     Well you can also add Bass-O-Matic Vachon to the list and my partner
    will be anounced at a later date. Sounds like this tourney should have
    quite a few bass anglers there!! I can't wait until we get into
    some cool mornings instead of this #@!*$~ heat.
    
    Martial Vachon
    
843.18A complete TeamGRAMPS::LASKYThu Aug 18 1988 12:257
    I know all of you guys will be happy to know that Steve Cuzzones
    has found himself a worthy partner, MYSELF.  Add the team of
    
    Steve "The Boat" Cuzzones
    Bart "The Partnerless No More" Lasky
    
    Bring on the Fish!
843.20The team of HSJ & FFFVAX4::TOMASJoeFri Aug 19 1988 13:4915
I know the suspense of who my partner will be is getting to y'all, so I 
won't keep you in suspense any longer....

		my partner is my old friend, and ex-DECie,

			  	"FFF" !


	
	              "FISHIN-FACTORY FLETCHER"


or did that stand for "Fish-Formula Fletcher"...or "Fudge-Factor Fletcher"?


843.21De tourneymints ober now!!DPDMAI::BEAZLEYFri Aug 19 1988 14:318
    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
    
    Onless chew plan to use wun ob dem seining nets, don plan to outfish
    dem two!!!! Dem boys kin ketch fish in dew!!!!
    
    Bonne chance to two ob my frans...
    
    Coonass
843.22The waiting is over!!AKOV13::SANSINGIs it ice OUT yet?Fri Aug 19 1988 14:5710
    Great news!!!!!
    Bob "Fuming Midget" Sansing and Bill "Animal" Baker will be attending
    this Fall Clasic Fishing Derby.
    The last six weeks have been the most depressing of my fishing life.
    My Humminbird 8000 went down for the count six weeks ago. Today
    it came back to life from the factory ready for action!!!
    Bring on the Hawgs!!
    
    Bob
    
843.24VAX4::TOMASJoeFri Aug 19 1988 16:2115
re: .21

Thanks, Coonass, for the vote of confidence.  We fully intend to give these 
guys a real run for the money!

BTW...Fletcher and I were out last night at Stumpfield and we had one of the 
BEST nights of the year.  The weather was real windy, but died down, and the 
air was nice and c-o-o-l!  We nailed 11 bass between 6:30 and 8:00 P.M., 
mostly on buzz-baits.  The largest was 4-5 lbs, and none were smaller than 
1.5 lbs.  The change in the weather apparently has made them real feisty as 
they all took to the air.  It was a great treat!

-HSJ-

Hey Coonass, give me a call sometime soon to chat!
843.25You'd better talk big BEFORE the tourney ...SA1794::CUZZONESIt's better to burn out ...Fri Aug 19 1988 17:259
    
    Hey Holeshot,
    
    From what I hear, Monomonac is NOT Stumpfield.  How many of 
    these tournaments have you won, anyway?                     
    
    Bart and I aren't afraid of you and Mr."Playdough Fun Factory" Fletcher.
                                        
    "Splitshot" Steve
843.26VAX4::TOMASJoeFri Aug 19 1988 18:5017
Yo, SPLOTSHOT...
    
>>  From what I hear, Monomonac is NOT Stumpfield.  

You're absolutely right!  Monomonac is a much tougher lake and will 
definitely weed out the men from the boys!


>>  How many of these tournaments have you won, anyway?                     
    
If you mean "DEC Tournies," counting the upcoming Monomonac event, the count 
will be TWO wins THIS year.  (We won't count my Pawtuckaway win in May as 
that wasn't a DEC event.)

See you there!

-HSJ-
843.27Not this time tho...you can count on it!SONATA::LANGEI got me a 3 Jumbo-Joe Jones!Fri Aug 19 1988 18:534
    re. weeding out...
    
    as I recall the last tourney at Stumpfield 3 men were weeded out...
    By a women!
843.28VAX4::TOMASJoeWed Aug 24 1988 12:2410
What's happened?  Is there a sudden loss of interest in the tourney?  We 
need some new blood (i.e. more $$$ to win!).  C'mon folks, get with it and 
register!  Let's see just how good some of you BIG MOUTHS really are.

BTW... for you saltwater afficiandos, I hear that there's STRIPERS and 
BLUES in Monomonac, so c'mon down! (heh...heh)

-HSJ-


843.29no checks, cash only please!SCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsWed Aug 24 1988 13:154
    YO,
          I guess I'll get some outriggers installed on my boat then
    Joe. Can't wait to take your money!
                                          NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~
843.30gimme a break!VAX4::TOMASJoeWed Aug 24 1988 14:174
Fat chance, WORM!  BTW...you gonna use that cheap rod 'n reel I let you win 
last year??  I sure hope so 'cause it's best suited for PRECH-JERKERS like 
you!
843.31NEW BLOOD...TEE HEE HEE!SALEM::VTOWLEWed Aug 24 1988 16:235
    REP .28
    
    	Ah yes...looking for some new blood, huh....or is that  
    
                  N E W   F I S H     ?
843.33I'm So ConfusedCIMAMT::DOWNINGWed Aug 24 1988 16:573
    RE: .32
    
    Isn't this a World Wrestling Federation membership listing?!?
843.34in this corner...introducing..SCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsWed Aug 24 1988 17:435
    re .33  
           YO, It must be. Just look at that list of cartoon characters.
    Needless to say, I am the champion. (is it too early to start this?
    nahhhh, HSJ has already started the games!)
                                               NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~~
843.35VAX4::TOMASJoeWed Aug 24 1988 20:5512
Games?!?  What games?  This is serious stuff, man!  Games is kid stuff.  If 
that's what you're expecting then you might as well slither back into your 
hole!  It's pretty obvious that there's only TWO teams that are of any 
competition ... HSJ & FFF plus that other team that lucked out and won last 
year (I forget their names).  The rest of you are simply contributing $$$ to 
the pot.

YO, Worm, I've been meaning to ask...

What's that stuff after your name..(~~~~~~~~) SLIME?
 
-HSJ-
843.36I MOVE BETTER IN THE NIGHTSCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsWed Aug 24 1988 21:038
    YO HSJ,
            ~~~~~~~~~ This is a worm crawling. It is an insignia. It
    is also something you will want to tatoo on your face to remember
    the fishing mastry I will show you Oct. 1st. Last year I won a rod
    and reel, this year I will clean your clock and empty your wallet!
    Any tackle you would like me to autograph?
                                                     NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~
    
843.37Joes for gets the names out of fear!!HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysThu Aug 25 1988 16:186
    The other team that Joe is so afraid of becasue they have won so many
    of these events (single or as a team), is the team of
    
    Bassin Bob Puishys and Rich R/O Palmer  !!
    
     
843.38And, In the right corner!!CIMNET::DSULLIVANThu Aug 25 1988 18:5513
    
    
    I would just like to stuff my 2 cents in this wrestling match...
    
    Seeing we will be the team with the "CLASSIEST BASS BOAT" on the water
    that day, I will try to get there early to wave the Bayliner flag and
    further my endorsements.  
    
    Bassmaster,
    
    Dave Sullivan
    
    
843.39Phase 2MOSAIC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsMon Aug 29 1988 21:1710
    I just removed all of the re-scheduling replies.  Trying to find a
    date that's good for everyone is probably impossible, although it 
    would be nice.
                                                                       
    For now, we'll let the date stand as scheduled for October 1st.    
                                                                       
    HOWEVER, if you would like to fish and cannot make it on Saturday  
    Oct 1st, but could make it on Sunday Oct 2, let me know via *MAIL*.
                   
    Thanks, Don Mac
843.40Northwind BlowsMTADMS::COOTSTue Aug 30 1988 17:436
    Well boys, it's time to enter the real bassmasters into this fiasco.
    
    Jack "lavender" Hagerty and Tom "Northwoods" Coots will grace this
    crew with our presence.  The mountain boy will teach you flatlanders
    a lesson!  By the way, where the hell is the Ledgend?
    
843.41SONATA::LANGEI got me a 3 Jumbo-Joe Jones!Tue Aug 30 1988 18:096
    this is great..We're looking to buy a bass boat...now were going
    to have an in-water boat show....:-)
    
    lets see if we can go 2 tourney's with out being swamped in the
    canoe....
    ...that wasn't a dare! 
843.42You Can Count On UsCSSE::SANDERWed Aug 31 1988 13:497
    You can count on Lou Hohos and Ed Sander for the fall classic. Sure
    hope the weather is better than the spring fling! Will be there
    rain or shine.
    
    Don, I (and I am sure Lou) will be there either day you pick.
    
    P.S. Don, action has been mighty fine in the Nashua. 
843.44Another entryDIRK::LUSTREALITY IS WHEN YOU CAN'T HANDLE DRUGSThu Sep 01 1988 18:197
Add two more for the pot.

Danny Day and Dirk Lust

P.S.  Since we can only use artificial lures, is DuPont Fishing Lure allowed???

{;^)
843.45WHAT IS REALITY?SCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsFri Sep 02 1988 18:515
    RE . 44
               YO,
                   Berkley XL green.....there is no substitute.
    
                                NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~
843.47VAX4::TOMASJoeTue Sep 06 1988 19:0413
Well, it looks like the team of BB & R/O had to withdraw.  Too bad...I was 
looking for some REAL competition.  The rest of you perch-jerkers may as 
well just send me your money and take the day off to do some work around the 
house, visit the in-laws, or enjoy the foliage.

On the serious side, though...

it IS too bad that Bob and Rick can't be there to defend (or lose as the 
case will be) their "title."  No matter who wins, BB will argue that things 
would have been different had they been there.  Hey, BB...all I can say is
SNOOZE AND YOU LOSE!

-HSJ- (back_from_vacation_and_catchin_lots_of_fish!)
843.48HOLESHOT WILL NEED A SHOT!SCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsWed Sep 07 1988 17:436
    re -1
             YO HSJ.....
                         Just don't be to afraid to show up. When you
    break down and cry after you loose everyone will see you but no
    one will pity you. Prepare for your defeat.
                                                 NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~
843.49here's your chanceSTRATA::TADRYThu Sep 08 1988 15:5412
    All this talk and hype is really getting silly and you clowns still
    aren't getting ahead. Look, just go easy on yourselves and send
    a check,money order,cash or major credit card to Ray Tadry or Les
    Bazcko in HLO then you can stop all this senseless worrying about
    who is going to win. Hey....lets face it, its going to happen anyway
    so why grow older waiting for it. Right?. I mean look at TBDW....
    he's been waiting a long time and he looks like hell.
    
    Warmest Regards,
    
    The team of,
    Baczko & Tadry  (alphabetical)
843.51Maybe I'll enter my 1st tournament...VIDEO::LEVESQUEI fish, therefore I am.Thu Sep 08 1988 17:1111
    Don Mac-
    
    What do you do if you don't have a wicked pissa bass boat with a
    live well? How are you supposed to keep those bass alive? I'd like
    to enter, but I only have a canoe, and no livewell.
    
    The Doctah
    
    PS- you bassahs- what are good methods for fall bass? I imagine
    that if I enter, it will be only to round out the field as I haven't
    done much bass fishing, and my partner is kind of a neophyte.
843.52whaddya say guys.....SCOMAN::TADRYThu Sep 08 1988 17:3612
    Doctah,
    You poor soul......where have you been,,,,,,,
    Don't worry we'll show you how at the ramp before blast-off. Its
    real easy, you'll get the hang of it real quick. Too bad bassin
    bob won't be there, we all could have had some lessons and not have
    to watch Bill Westmorland all winter, Damn!. 
    Seriously...I have a cooler airation unit you could borrow for the
    day, all you'd need is a battery and fish to go in it. 
                                                 
    
    do you play poker too??????
    
843.53thinking more seriously about it now...VIDEO::LEVESQUEI fish, therefore I am.Thu Sep 08 1988 18:3710
    >    do you play poker too??????

    Yeah, but I'm not going to let you turkeys take all my money. If
    we play cards, I'll probably win some back!
    
    BTW- does it run off a 12 V battery? If my buddy can go, we'll have
    one for the trolling motor. And what else do I need? Cooler, etc
    
    The Doctah 
    
843.54What? He aint gonna make it again?PERFCT::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardThu Sep 08 1988 18:4315
    
    I know yooze guys are gonna love this..........
    
    THE BACK DECK WIZARD aint gonna make this prestigeous event.
    
    I have spoken to the famous RANGER RON and THE TEXICAN. 
    It looks as though yooze guys will have to contend with RR & the
    TEXICAN.
    
    Best of luck to all and have a great time.  Anyway if it looks like
    the slightest chance of rain, I would WIMP out anyway.
    
    TBDW
    
    
843.55VAX4::TOMASJoeThu Sep 08 1988 18:5350
    
>>    PS- you bassahs- what are good methods for fall bass? 

Doctah...

That's a leading question that could result in hundreds of replies with 
everyone's own opinion.  I would suggest sticking with the "basics," 
especially if you are a novice.  It's really not necessary to have 5-6 rods 
and two or three tackle boxes jammed with every conceivable combination of 
lure sizes/color/weights.  My suggestion would be to bring the following 
"basic" baits:

	- rubber worms, 5-7", in green, motor oil, & purple colors
	  - slip weights, 1/16, 1/8, & 1/4 oz.
	  - 2/0 & 4/0 TruTurn worm hooks

	- spinnerbaits
	  - white, Colorado single-blade
	  - chatreause, Colorado double-blade

	- crankbaits
	  - #7 Rapala, silver, floating
	  - #7 Rapala, perch-pattern, floating
	  - Shad Rap, silver
	  - Mann's 20+ hog
	  - Rattle Trap

I'm sure a number of others will add their own "basics" to the list, but I 
think the above baits will satisfy the majority of one's needs for most bass 
fishing conditions.

FALL PATTERNS...

Again, everyone has their own ideas, but there are some basic strategies one 
can use.  A lot also has to do with the weather conditions.  Hopefully, this 
year's tourney WON'T be a repeat of last year's!  What a blow-out!  I'd 
suggest reading the latest issues of BassMasters and In-Fisherman magazines 
as they usually have good articles on fall bassin.

RE: Livewells

All you need is a cooler, the larger the better (gotta think positive, ya 
know!)  If you don't have a livewell airator, just be sure to change the 
water periodically.  It shouldn't be too much of a problem as I expect the 
water will be much cooler by Oct. 1.


In any event, hope to see you there!

-HoleShot Joe-
843.56whadaflake!VAX4::TOMASJoeThu Sep 08 1988 18:5910
HEY TBDW...

WHAT IS THIS BS?  WHADDYA MEAN YOU'RE WIMPIN OUT??  YOU'RE BEGINNING TO 
SOUND LIKE YOU'VE TAKEN UP WITH THE LEGEND AND FINDING ALL SORTS OF EXCUSES 
TO WIMP OUT!

WHATSAMATTA....COMPETITION TO STIFF FER YA?

-HSJ- (who_WILL_be there!)    

843.57wimpy,wimpy,wimpy.SONATA::LANGESTOP!.....continue...Thu Sep 08 1988 19:081
    
843.58My Two CentsBOSHOG::VARLEYThu Sep 08 1988 20:0817
     My congrats to "HSJ" for:
    
    A. Not blowing a lot of smoke on what he's won, what he's gonna
    do, etc., etc.
    
    B. Not "wimping out on the tourney.
    
    C. Being willing to help others before (!!) the tourney.
    
     I'm not much on these things, primarily because of A. above, coupled
    with the fact that however you do, it don't make your ---- (rhymes
    with "stick") any bigger; but if you're gonna have 'em, do it the
    way you already are - catch and release. And if you're gonna be
    in 'em, try to be a little like ole HSJ!
    
    --The Skoal Bandit (who is counting on Hagerty & Coots to be "low
    deviants").
843.59NO SWEAT.SCOMAN::TADRYThu Sep 08 1988 20:348
    Doc...Just bring a large cooler, like a big coleman and a 12 volt
    car or deep cycle battery. Joe is right you still should change
    the water a few times. The aerator will do just that plus help keep
    the water a little cooler. I'll bring it and if you want to use
    it your welcome to it. 
    
    HEY TBDW (the back deck whimp) WHATTSA MATTER GARRRRRRRRY???????
    MOMMA WON'T LET YOU GO?, BRING HER. 
843.60VAX4::TOMASJoeFri Sep 09 1988 13:3044
Bandit,

You're making my head swell!  Thanks for the kind words.

RE: "willing to help others before (!!) the tourney."

I think I've said this before, but I'll say it again.  Although I've managed
to stick a few feathers in my cap by winning a few tourneys, I still
consider myself somewhat of a novice.  I find that one of the BEST ways of
learning is to ask questions of those who do well (and those that do well
are not always the Pros!), then go out and practice. 

If someone is successful in a tourney, I'd like to know what baits he (or 
she) was using, the structure they fished, and most importantly, WHY they 
fished those particular patterns under the given conditions.  And by 
"pattern," I don't simply mean type of bait or color, but depth, speed of 
retrieve, physical location fished, etc.

I can't fault someone for not being too willing to share much information 
BEFORE a tourney as they formulate their strategies to WIN.  One does not 
want to divulge their potential secrets of success to a competitor, 
especially if those techniques might be used against him in THAT tourney.

HOWEVER...AFTER the tourney is over, I strongly feel that revealing the 
"winning ways" can only help to create greater competition (which only helps 
you to do better) and is a tremendous learning experience for others.  Even 
if a tourney is held on the same waters at a later date (as we often do), it 
is unlikely that the identical conditions will exist to dictate the identical 
winning pattern(s).  

As many of you that know me know, I ask a lot of questions after a tourney, 
not just of the winners, but of those that did not do well.  By knowing what 
patterns did not produce plus those that did makes it much easier to 
understand the rational for the "winning ways."  I am also more than willing 
to share my "secrets" with others after a tourney in hopes of either helping
others or in obtaining some constructive criticism.

Fishing is always a learning experience... you can never know enough!  Just 
when you think you've got it all down pat, Ole Bucketmouth goes and proves 
you wrong!

-HSJ-

843.61rule change - 4oz penalty for dead fishDONMAC::MACINTYREFri Sep 09 1988 14:1226
843.62fall tipsDONMAC::MACINTYREFri Sep 09 1988 14:2311
    Oh yea, check out some of the following for more fall bassin tips.
    
    180  JUNIOR::FLOOD        14-SEP-1986     2  fall fishing help
    467  MOSAIC::BEAUDREAU     3-SEP-1987     5  ANY FALL BASSIN' TIPS?
    507   HELIX::COTHRAN      14-OCT-1987    19  Fall Bass
                                                        
    Don Mac
                  
    PS: and if anyone else would like to share some tips, please do,
    but please add them to note 507 and not here, thanks, mr. moderator
    
843.64get that hook outta my eyeSCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsFri Sep 09 1988 14:5316
    YO Doc,
             Prior to getting my boat I fished tourney's in a canoe
    with a cooler. Hell with it. Fishin is fishin. Your stratagy may
    differ since you will be able to get into some areas boats cannot...
    the muck and weedy stick and stump areas. Do it.
                                           
    * I have also noticed the Bass are getting VERY active. I have hopes of
      excellent action for this get together. My local ponds are HOT.
    
    * There really is not a TBDW. Actually his name is TBOW. That stands
      for THE BACK OUT WIMP.
                                 NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~ who is not afraid
                                 of rain, snow, lightning or anything
    else when fishing (well perhaps running out of beer is frightening)
    and who is looking forward to getting out on the water with you
    knuckleheads Oct. 1st!
843.65take TBDW's spot....SONATA::LANGESTOP!.....continue...Fri Sep 09 1988 14:5511
    Yo Doctah...
    
    c'mon ... enter... my team will be canoe-in' it....it's no big deal...
    
    last tourney we had a great time...*I* got skunked...:(..but rule
    #1 took over ...and I had a ball....
    
    it's a great time,and all the people in this here notes file are
    real sports...
    
    
843.66The Doctah is in!!!!!!VIDEO::LEVESQUEI fish, therefore I am.Fri Sep 09 1988 15:1013
    OK Ok OK
    
    I already prepared my wife for this so here goes...
    
    I'll be there, hopefully with Bob "Hawg" Pelletier. (He's got the
    trolling motor and battery.) I'll check with him this weekend. 
    Otherwise, I'll ask my cousin Reggie "Noskunk" Ouellette. Reggie
    was one of the parties in our shark charter.
    
    I'll get somebody to round out my team.
    
    The Doctah 
    
843.68count us inWAV12::HINESMon Sep 12 1988 15:2410
     	Here is two more champs for the pot!! Add Tim "Salamander" Hines
    and Fred "Wormin'" Clark.  I have a new Bass Tracker that's loaded
    with good luck!!! No 20 foot center console boat this year..
    
    
     Bart .... Glad to see you found a boat this year!!!!!!
    
    
    
    
843.70try 2oz for died fishHPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysMon Sep 12 1988 17:517
    Hay don was that 1/2 lbs for a died fish?  I thought it was 2 oz.
    
     Or it was only 2oz in all the tournaments I ran.  It is 1/2 lbs
    for tring to weight in a sort fish.
    
    Bassin Bob
    
843.71CAN'T GET THERE FROM HERE!!!PHILEM::VACHONMon Sep 12 1988 18:0312
     Well I have notice in earlier notes that they have directions if
    your comming up from MASS or driving down from Concord N.H. but
    I haven't seen anything if your driving from Nashua! (or maybe I
    just missed it?) If anyone can give me directions and let me know
    about how long it takes to drive from Nashua I would appreciate
    it. Thanks!!
    
    Oh by the way, I'm bringing my girlfriend as my partner and who
    knows maybe she can have beginners luck and land a couple of BASS.
    
    BASS-O-MATIC
    
843.72CECV03::SURRETTEMon Sep 12 1988 18:119
    re .71
    
    It's a great idea bringing her along, just ask Jeff Lange !!
    
    (I wish I had brought my girlfriend along, maybe she could have
    prevented me from getting skunked in the Summer classic !!!)
    
    Gus
    
843.733 weeks is too long to wait!!!SONATA::LANGESTOP!.....continue...Mon Sep 12 1988 18:186
    I was waiting for someone to bring that up....Thanks Walter!
    
    Yep Let it be known....if it weren't for my partner(girlfriend at
    the time,;now my wife) Our team would have been skunked....hopefully
    this time we *both* will catch the limit...and maybe place....We
    could use the cash for a downpayment on the TXS17 Tracker.....
843.74At least Jeff's team caught a fish ....CECV03::SURRETTEMon Sep 12 1988 18:4418
    Hey Jeff,
    
          Sorry about that..  but I got grief over getting the goose
    egg, so figured I'd pass the buck to someone else.  At least you'll
    redeem yourself on the second,  I have to attend my partners wedding
    that day,  imagine the nerve of him picking THAT day for his wedding.
    I think he has to get some priorities straight (I'm glad he's not
    a DECie, otherwise he would NEVER enter another tourney with me.
    
    I see you decided to get a Tracker huh ... Very Nice.  I've seen
    quite a few of them and they looks real nice.  Hey Joe, didn't you
    win the Summer classic in a Tracker ???   Could be an omen for Jeff...
    
    See ya.
    
    W
    
    
843.75Leave the RIT at home!SCOMAN::BACZKOMon Sep 12 1988 19:065
    RE: .70
            " Hay don was that 1/2 lbs for a died fish? "
              
    
               WHAT COLOR???
843.76BURP. Er where ARE we?SCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsMon Sep 12 1988 19:367
    YO....Hold the phones,
                            RE .74 / Is not this event on the 1st? Last
    I heard we left the date the same correct Donmac?? Or is this a
    ploy to get me out there on the wrong day? Geeeeeez. 
          YO Bassin Bob, you have me very confused. You MUST stop drinking.
    AR AR AR.
                                                    NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~
843.77Get me to the water..... QUICK !!!CECV03::SURRETTEMon Sep 12 1988 19:4910
    
    
    Yo,
    
    	Sorry nightcrawler~~~~~~~   I MEANT the first.  I must
    be working too hard and not fishing enough.  
    
    W.
    
    
843.78Died deid it should should still be 2 ozHPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysMon Sep 12 1988 19:546
    Yo, Worm....  My bad typeing is from that fact that my brain works
    faster then I can type or spell.  Too many hours on the water and
    not enough rest for my tired body!!
    bassin bob
    
    
843.79Maps anyone??SCOMAN::BACZKOMon Sep 12 1988 20:2615
    I picked up a map of MONOMOMAC today at the Fish and game place.
    if any one wants it send me mail and I will send you a copy
    
       ENET    SCOMAN::BACZKO
      
      As of Sept. 19  I can be reached on PACKER::BACZKO
    
    The Back of the map says, and I quote:
    
    	" The fishery at Mnomomac Lake does not appear to be one of the
    more impressive ones.  During sampling large bass (12.0 inches and
    larger) were scarce to say the least.  Almost all species are
    exhibiting less than average growth"
                                                           
    Les
843.80SONATA::LANGESTOP!.....continue...Mon Sep 12 1988 20:334
    re "Back of map quote".
    
    Looks like I'm in luck...12.0" have been all I've been catchin all
    year.  hahaha hahahaha
843.81VAX4::TOMASJoeMon Sep 12 1988 22:525
so maybe we ought to set the legal limit at 13 inches...eh?

Hey, Bassin Boob...what do you care what the dead (deid or is it died) fish 
penalty is anyway?!?  You're wimpin out of this big event...so put up or 
shut up! (yuk, yuk) 
843.82Fishes better than he types, thoughSA1794::CUZZONESIt's better to burn out ...Tue Sep 13 1988 13:158
    
    RE:.78
    
    Don't let this joker kid you.  Bassin' Bob talks just like he types.
    
    "Splitshot"
    
    
843.83the skinnyDONMAC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsTue Sep 13 1988 13:4515
    Bob, take a look at note 656.0, your base note for the spring tourny,
    I took the rules straight from there, and you have the .50lb penalty...
    
    It's Oct. 1st and there's a 4oz penalty for dead fish.
    
    And in Bob's honor, a 2oz penalty for died fish... 8^)
            
    Lets not be *too* rough on Bob, his time as free man is running
    out, and he's probably not thinking to clearly... 8^)
    
    Looks like we're going to have a good turn out, keep them entries
    coming, 
    
    
    donmac
843.844 1/2 weeks of wifeless fishing left!HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysTue Sep 13 1988 14:2219
    Hay les you quote about this lake was not complete.  If you read
    further it would say"
    
     		Goos hiding cover for bass and pickeral might account
    for this.  TRhese large predators will utilize whatever is available,
    so do not hesitate fishing around man-made structures such as docks
    and boats."
    
    Look at last year's results the winning weight should show that
    there are big fish in this lake.
    
    As for Died deid dead daed fish..  Don I just copied Joes from the
    year before.  If you look all the way back to the 1st DEC BASSMASTER
    CLASSIC note is was correct at 2 oz.  I would not be a problem for
    a person with a big boat and a good live well.  But it may hert
    people in the canoes with only a cooler.
    
    Bassin Bob.
    
843.85fllow the bouncing rulesDONMAC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsTue Sep 13 1988 15:4412
843.86Souns gooood now....DPDMAI::BEAZLEYTue Sep 13 1988 15:5310
    Sey Donmac,
    
    Now mebbe Id lak to enter chore tourneymint...
    
    Me, Im gonna send 60 pounds ob frozen bass op dere an chew kin sen
    my prize money bak, OK??
    
    An dey sey dem southiners dont tink much!!!
    
    Coonass
843.88Partner for rentWHYVAX::LUCIAThu Sep 15 1988 16:196
    If anyone needs a partner, send me a mail message.  I don't have
    a boat, but I am definitely in favor of rule #1.  As of this moment,
    I have no plans for Oct 1.
    
    Tim
    
843.89get the 1/2 price launch for tournamentHPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysThu Sep 15 1988 16:224
    Hay don since we have such a big field, has anyone check with the
    marina about a discount at the luanch site?
    
    bb
843.90big field = big $$$DONMAC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsThu Sep 15 1988 16:2911
    What's this "we" stuff Bob, last I heard you weren't coming 8^)
    
    I called them a few weeks ago and told them we were coming.
    They told me that I could collect the fee, or that people coule
    pay as they left.  I told them I'd have people pay as they leave.
    (I'll be handling enough cash as it is.)  Anyway, they didn't 
    mention the discount on the phone, and I didn't ask about it,
    I basically just wanted to let them know we'd be there.  I'll
    ask them that morning if we can get the discount.
    
    Don Mac               
843.91?AMFM::LANGESTOP!.....continue...Thu Sep 15 1988 17:021
    how much is it launch anyhoo?
843.92Directions & Misc.DONMAC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsThu Sep 15 1988 17:3530
We'll be launching at Valley Marine in Rindge, NH, located on Rt 202 about 
200 yds north of the Rindge NH / Winchendon MA border.

For more detailed directions check out notes 323.40-323.60, there's probably
5 or 6 different sets of directions in there.

Park in the sand lot on the East side of 202 just south of the marina.
The parking fee is usually $3 but we're hoping to get a 50% discount.
There will be someone from the Marina collecting as we leave.
                                                             
The tournament starts at exactly 7AM.  Please arrive early and try to have
your boat in the water by 6:30.  

I'll be sticking around the dock at the right side of the launch with a clip
board.  Please see me asap to check in and pay your entry fee. 

At 6:45 all boats with >= 5hp that are IN THE WATER may draw for starting 
postion.  After 6:45 each boat in the water will get the next starting 
position available.  If you have >= 5hp and would rather not draw for position, 
you may "bring up the rear".

High powered boats - please use extreme caution during the start, remember 
this is not the Classic.  It's a casual tournament for fun, with many small 
boats around.  

Small boats -  if you draw a low number starting postion and there's a 150hp
bass bustin' battle station behind ya, don't try and lead the way, please 
bear to the right so that they may pass safely.    

Ok, that's it for now.  Keep those entries coming, Don Mac  
843.94blackened bassDONMAC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsThu Sep 15 1988 17:429
843.95De hurrycanes comin!!!DPDMAI::BEAZLEYThu Sep 15 1988 18:519
    I figger 12 - 5 pounders, minus 2 oz for bein daid, dat makes 936
    oz, or a lil ober 52 pounds, so I figger it'll win de prizes.
    
    Do ya hab de Tobasco, de fille powder an de cayenne?? Ib chew do
    chew got mos ob de stuff. All chew needs is a big ole iron skillit.
    
    Wisht I cud be op dere fo dat, che boys mor fun den a monkey fite!!
    
    Coonass
843.96blackened bassDONMAC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsThu Sep 15 1988 20:1415
    Yeap, I take the lava rocks out of the gas grill, drop in the 
    ol' cast iron pan, get it goood an hot, dunk the fillets in butter,
    sprinkle on some Prudomme's Blackened Redfish Magic....
    
    mmmmmmmmmm... good stuff!  Spinnerbait Dilsworth turned me on to
    this method after we had caught some salmon this spring (or was
    it last fall)... anyway, any fish is great this way...
    
    and I have to `fess up, I even kept one of Winnipesaukee's fine
    smallies this year, that was wonderful cooked cajun style!
    
    donmac - who is still a 99.99% catch and release fisherman 
    	    
    ps: coonass, aren't there any courses in bedford that you have to
        take that just happen to be offered around Oct 1st..........?
843.97VAX4::TOMASJoeThu Sep 15 1988 20:219
>>        donmac - who is still a 99.99% catch and release fisherman 
  

Ahhh... Don, if my math is correct and you did keep ONE bass to eat, 
then that makes you 100% CATCH and 0% RELEASE for the year!

har...har...

-HSJ-
843.98Did Gilbert get Coonass?DONMAC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsFri Sep 16 1988 14:006
    Joe, since I'm now playing mr. moderator, I'll have to let that one
    slide.  Can't have the moderator in the middle of a bustin' session.
                       
    don mac - who is finding it extremely difficult to NOT fire back
    8^)
843.99Late EntrySCOMAN::KULPFri Sep 16 1988 16:547
    
    	The team of Jim Tooker and Ken Kulp will attend this great event.
    	We will be sporting in the Classic Ted Williams Sears Special.
        A sure bet for the top three winners.
    
    	Ken
    
843.101TGIFVIDEO::LEVESQUEI fish, therefore I am.Fri Sep 16 1988 18:044
    Boy this TBA guy really has an ego problem. He's fishing on three
    different teams! :-)                                             
    
    The Doctah
843.102Change the name to protect the guiltyPACKER::BACZKOFri Sep 16 1988 19:454
    That should read on the late entry,
    
       Ken "CRASH" Kulp and Jim "TROUBLE MAN" Tooker
    
843.103VAX4::TOMASJoeFri Sep 16 1988 20:299
>>    Boy this TBA guy really has an ego problem. He's fishing on three
>>    different teams! :-)                                             
    
Smart guy!  Increases his chances of winning!

The turnout looks GREAT!  Let's just hope the weather cooperates for a 
change!  BTW...I scraped frost off my windshield this AM.  ugh!


843.104I'll be flippin a coin for this one.....SONATA::LANGESTOP!.....continue...Mon Sep 19 1988 12:283
    >Let's hope the weather cooperates for a change!
    
    #^$&^ Lets hope the fish do! they didn't saturday,at all!
843.1051/2 is better then none!HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysMon Sep 19 1988 15:175
   Don add half of last years winning team to the list.
    
    Change R/O Palmer to Shaun Scott.
    
    That makes Bassin Bob Puishys and Skedless Shaun Scott
843.107numbersDONMAC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsMon Sep 19 1988 15:5514
    We currently have 20 teams signed up.  
    
    Based on 20 teams, and assuming everyone enters the Hawg Pool, 
    here's the payoff:
    
    	1st - 50% - $200	Hawg Pool - $200
    	2nd - 30% - $120
    	3rd - 20% - $ 80
    
    Looking good, Don Mac
                         
    PS: In the unlikely event of only one team weighing fish, it's winner
    takes all.  If only two teams weighed fish it would be split 60-40.  Zero 
    fish means everyone gets their money back.
843.108NO FISH = NO WAYGRAMPS::LASKYMon Sep 19 1988 16:037
    Whats this ZERO fish stuff!!!  The team of Bart and Steve will make
    sure that at least some Keepers are caught.  If everybody shows
    up who has signed up this should be on hell of a good time.
    
    Hoping for good fishing and clear skies,
    
    					Bart Lasky
843.109is my math wrong?SONATA::LANGESTOP!.....continue...Mon Sep 19 1988 16:067
    re Hawg Pool...
    
    20 teams = 40 contestants
    
    40 contestants at $10 a wack = $400...
    
    doesn't it?
843.110re.-1DONMAC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsMon Sep 19 1988 16:145
    Your math is fine but your numbers are off... It's only $5/person
    for the HAWG pool.
    
    donmac - who is due for a HAWG beacuse he hasn't broken the 5lb	
    	     this year, YET..................
843.111SONATA::LANGESTOP!.....continue...Mon Sep 19 1988 16:255
    ...
    Opps... sorry...Why was I thinking $10?....
    
    maybe cause I'm still shocked by the zero activity saturday at
    Monomonac... :-(
843.112HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysMon Sep 19 1988 17:4810
    why was I thinking $10?
    
    Because it is ten a team or five a person.  Lots of people get caught
    on that.  
    
    HAy Bart I also hope all the people show up!  I stopped running
    these becasue 35 teams will sign up then it rains a little
    or gets cold and only 5 or 6 teams make it!!
    
    Bassin Bob
843.113Boy, this a LOT of money.....MENSCH::SCHOLZRon....and thanks for all the fishMon Sep 19 1988 17:4812
    Since Rule One applies for this and all other DEC tournaments, why
    don't we go back to the first,second and third tourney payout rules??
    5 places. There is an awlful lot of coin going into this one....so
    far it's the largest tourney we have had, and I think that we should
    try and stay away from getting to much money involved in these things.
    DEC doesn't "like" Digital events to have prize money involved at
    all......so, take this for whats it worth.....we are using company
    resources to do all this and pull it together, etc.....I would think
    that we would like to stay away from getting in 'sticky' waters
    here.
    
    Tight lines, Ranger Ron
843.114VAX4::TOMASJoeMon Sep 19 1988 18:0615
Aw, c'mon Ron, get to the REAL reason!  You just want to be sure that you 
have a chance to make some money!

Maybe we ought to have payoffs for the top TWENTY spots so Ron will be 
assured of winning SOMETHING!

hey, BB...I'm glad to see that you will make it.  I guess now I'll have some 
serious competition and can't sit back.

I'm lookin forward to this one!

-HSJ-

BTW...I guess Mr. Lange is now seriously depressed and will be going in with 
a negative attitude.  Scratch another Monomonac victim!
843.115Some more new BloodFDCV25::MARTINMon Sep 19 1988 19:4111
    Hey, how 'bout some new blood in this tournament.
    
    I've been following this file for the last year or so and sounds
    like you guys have lots of fun.  So count me in!!!
    
    The team is Thomas Martin and Carl "Mr Hoop" Brassell"
    We're gonna scrounge up a rowboat or a canoe or something and
    join in.  If anyone knows where I can rent a boat please let
    me know.  Thanks!!  Looking forward to the first.
    
    Thomas Martin
843.117VAX4::TOMASJoeMon Sep 19 1988 21:086
re: .115

U-Haul rents boats, motors and trailers.  Check them out.

    

843.118payoffDONMAC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsTue Sep 20 1988 00:0324
    Ron, I tend to agree with you.  With the large turnout that is expected,
    the pool could be spread out a little more.  It appears that this one 
    will have enough participants to allow a 5 way split. (40/30/15/10/5)

    You brought up a good point. The goal of these tournaments is to allow 
    us noters to get together, meet each other, and have a good time doing 
    one of the things that we enjoy most, fishing.  We should not raise the 
    stakes so high that we lose sight of why we're holding these tournaments.

    However, at this stage of the game, I'm hesitant to change the payoff 
    scheme, without knowing how the rest of the field feels.  I'll extract 
    this note, along with yours, and mail it to each of the teams registered.
    
    Team members, please send me some MAIL and let me know if you want a 5 
    place or 3 place payoff, we'll let the majority decide.

    Don Mac

    PS: If we can continue to get this type of turnout in the future, I'd
    like to propose the idea of holding benefit tournaments, where a 
    percentage of the total prize money, be it 5 or 50%, be donated to
    a charitable organization.  We could possibly even take advantage of 
    DEC's "matching gift" program.  It doesn't take a five hundred or
    thousand dollar prize pool to get me to fish.  Just a thought...
843.119registerWAV14::HINESTue Sep 20 1988 12:175
    don
      i would like to register myself and dave watts for the tourney
    that would be dave "walleye" watts and joe "yahoo" gulla
      by the way a five way split would be fine with us.
                    thanks joe
843.120Scratch This!SONATA::LANGESTOP!.....continue...Tue Sep 20 1988 12:187
    re .114 "Joe"
    
    Depressed maybe for getting ziltch "last" saturday....
    but oct 1st is another day....;-)
    
    last sat. was SO WINDY...it had to have affected the fishing.
    ;-);-)
843.121VAX4::TOMASJoeTue Sep 20 1988 13:1015
>>    last sat. was SO WINDY...it had to have affected the fishing.
  
If you thought last Saturday was windy...ya shudda been there LAST FALL!!

Wind.... I mean WIND (30 MPH gusts!) ... WHITECAPS! ... RAIN! ... COLD!

Most of us weathered (pun) it out, but a few wimps cut out early.

In a way, the noontime cookout we had was a temporary relief as it gave us a 
chance to warm up by the fire.

BTW...don't get TOO depressed and not show up, you never know what might 
happen.  Afterall, if BB and R/O can get lucky, ANYONE CAN!

-HSJ-
843.122Please, dont let me be skunked. Amen.CGVAX2::HAGERTYJack Hagerty KI1XTue Sep 20 1988 13:143
    Mr 'NWT' Coots and I vote for 5 way split. We are not there to win
    $$. Only 'bragging rights'.
    
843.124I just stoop one step lower !!HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysTue Sep 20 1988 13:257
    re 121 BB and R/o could get lucky anyone could...
    
    Sorry Joe I have been tring to stay out of this, but
    
    LUCK HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!  IT IS CALLED SKILL!!
    
    
843.125Bragging rights are the BEST reward !!CECV03::SURRETTETue Sep 20 1988 13:2732
    re Donation to charity, and bragging rights
    
    I think DonMac has a great idea with splitting the big turn-out
    money pot with charity.  I think a couple hundred dollars towards
    the CCOD, Trout Unlimited, BASS etc. would be very much appropriate
    considering how much we enjoy the sport, and the good that can come
    out of such a donation (Since I can't enter this tourney I LOVE
    to donate other people's money to charity ;^) ).  After all, 
    The bragging rights will last a lot longer than the money...  the
    money would last about 2 weeks until you found the new rod you "Really
    Need", but the bragging rights last at LEAST until the next touney.
    
    Hell, HSJoe might make a career out of the Hopkinton tourney win..
    If he wins the fall classic, we'll need a larger VAX for the fishing
    conference so Joe's EGO can also fit !!! (Just kidding Joe, you
    really did a good job on the tourney, AND was nice enough to share
    the big secrets of your success, good luck next week)
    
    But any how, If I should ever be so lucky to win one of these events
    (I meant to say "SKILLED", not lucky) I would gladly accept a much
    smaller prize in order to spend a help the environment even a little
    bit.  Just enough money to pay for the gas and Beer (that could
    be expensive if we include the beer) costs for the day, and of course
    a year's worth of bragging rights !!
    
    Good luck to all,
    
    Gus
    who-now-can't-wait-for-the-big-spring-event
    
    
    
843.126Even *I* can catch bass <sometimes> ;-)SONATA::LANGESTOP!.....continue...Tue Sep 20 1988 13:435
    re .121...
    
    Oh I'll be there...and you're right ... ya never know what will
    happen...
    
843.127fishing in styleHPSTEK::HAUERTue Sep 20 1988 14:076
    re.99
    
    Wow at Ted Williams Special....that's like fishing in a '59
    Thunderbird.
    
    Gidzit'   (new guy in the notes)
843.128A pickeriling thoughtCIMNET::DSULLIVANTue Sep 20 1988 15:1225
    
    Well,
    
    The  most interesting thing I found about Monomanoc last Saturday
    was that lovely rock pile in the middle of the lake!! Be Carefull!!
    
    Also anyone interested in a pickerel pool??. After having 2 upwards
    of 4lbs utterly destroy my spinnerbait, this could bring new
    demension to the tourney, At least if your not fortunate to catch
    a bass all day and accidently get one of those monster pickerel
    that should be worth something to those entering the tourney via
    rule #1.
    So, Anyone interested in a BIG Pickerel pool send Vaxmail to 
    CIMNET::DSULLIVAN. I was thinking of a $1 a man pool for this new
    idea which with 22 teams would amount to $44 dollars to the winner.
    
    Now, Don't bust my noodles about this. I am indeed a Bassmaster
    and basically hate those stupid fish (pickerel) however, I just
    thought it might keep those who are having a bad day in the fight
    for prize money.
    
    Bassmaster,
    
    - Dave Sullivan 
    
843.129mail address...MOSAIC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsTue Sep 20 1988 15:215
    Anyone trying to send mail to DONMAC with comments on the payoff,
    you'll have to send mail to RAINBO. My DONMAC system will not be
    around for awhile.  
          
    donmac
843.130VAX4::TOMASJoeTue Sep 20 1988 15:3516
re: 128  Pickeral pool

Hey Dave... I dunno 'bout you, but I'm not sticking any pickeral in my 
livewell and then reaching in to lift out that slimey critter!

Besides, there won't be room in there with all dem bass!

Hey BB...I was wondering what it might take to wake you up!  I'll have to 
agree, you and R/O "skills" certainly put many of to shame (including me!).

May the best team win...
	and the second best...
		and the third...
			etc.......

-HSJ-
843.131payoff updateRAINBO::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsTue Sep 20 1988 16:5425
	It appears that most of the teams like the idea of the 5 way
	payoff in order to allow a greater number of people to share
        in the prizes. Based on the mail I recieved and talking to people, 
        here's what we're going to do:
                                     
	# Teams 	 Payoffs     			
	-------		---------    		
	 2-5		1 - 100%     		
         6-10           2 - 60/40    
         11-20		3 - 50/30/20 		
	 21+ 		5 - 45/25/15/10/5  
                                     
        Note that we're talking about the actual number of teams
        that show up, not how many that registered.
                                     
       Hawg Pool        Payoff       
       ---------        ------       
       $5 - $100        Heaviest bass takes it
       $105+            50% for Hawg Largemouth
                        50% for Hawg Smallmouth
        Note - if only one species of bass is caught, then it 
        will be distributed 60% to the largest bass and 40% to
        the 2nd largest bass.        
                                     
        Don Mac - how hopes he won't be changing any more rules
843.132hawg pool is for the biggest hawgHPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysTue Sep 20 1988 18:277
    
    
    
    Looks good Don,   but a hawg pool should be for a hawg not this
    2nd place stuff.   There are also smallies bigger than the larg
    mouth in this lake.  So I vote for the hawg get the hawgh pool!!!
    
843.133what a pain 8^)RAINBO::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsTue Sep 20 1988 19:1310
    Bob, that came as a result of the 'spread the money around' idea
    that people want.  AND we do not want the HAWG pool to be larger
    that the 1st place pool, which it would be with a 45% 1st place
    payoff (assuming everyone entered the pool).   Do you want the Hawg
    pool to be bigger than the 1st place prize?  It was either change the
    hawg pool payoff or change the hawg pool entry fees, and since
    we were changing the other payoffs, we went with changing the hawg
    payoffs as well.  Yea, ok, it's in the unusual side, no big deal...
    
    Don Mac - who thinks it's time to stop playing with the rules
843.134cripes!SONATA::LANGESTOP!.....continue...Tue Sep 20 1988 19:151
    let's just fish this thing!
843.135teams so farRAINBO::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsThu Sep 29 1988 14:3724
Don Mac & The Harbormaster
Holeshot Joe & FISHIN' FACTORY FLETCHER                               
Lorene & Jeff Lange                              
Ray "MOOSEFACE" Tadry & Lester "The Molester" Baczko  
NIGHTCRAWLER~~~ & Juan Corozon'                  
Dave "Bassmaster" Sullivan & Brian "Gone Fishin'" Gaffney
"Splitshot" Steve Cuzzones & Bart "Partnerless No More" Lasky
Ranger Ron Scholz & The Texican          
BASS-O-MATIC Vachon & TBA                        
"Lavender" Jack Hagerty & Tom "Northwoods" Coots   
Bob "Fuming Midget" Sansing & Bill "Animal" Baker        
Stuart Champiny & Phillip Maynard
Danny Day & Dirk Lust    
Ken Daby & Jim Bennett
The Doctah & Reggie "Crank-'em-in" Ouellette
Tim "Salamander" Hines and Fred "Wormin'" Clark
Cliff Ealy & TBA
Tim Tooker & Ken Kulp                               
Thomas Martin & Carl "Mr Hoop" Brassell
Dave "Walleye" Watts & Joe "Yahoo" Gulla    
Pistol Pete Foley & Bobby "Woo-Woo" Wheeler
Phil Wells & John Simmons
Jon Lewandowski & Dan Ford    

843.136here he goes again...VAX4::TOMASJoeThu Sep 29 1988 14:5833
FINALLY!  IT'S BACK FOR REAL!

For those of you that didn't catch Bassin Bob's reply in the conference this 
AM on MSEE before it got write locked, once again, he's backed down!

Hey Bob, so what if you're getting married...I mean, let's get those 
priorities straight!

I seem to recall another tourney that you were gonna wimp out on and only 
after considerable humiliation did you finally show up.  

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843.137Rain, Rain go away....MENSCH::SCHOLZRon....and thanks for all the fishThu Sep 29 1988 15:576
    For those that care about this stuff, the temp is going to be in
    the high sixties to low seventies and showers are expected.....that
    means rain all day long....now lets see who shows and who doesn't
    ;^)
    
    Ranger Ron with rain suit all ready....:^)
843.138Official RulesDONMAC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsThu Sep 29 1988 16:3960
Since we changed a couple of the rules (dead fish penalty and payoff scheme)
since the announcement of this tournament, I figured a recap is in order.
 
RULES:

1.   HAVE FUN!

2.   Violators of Rule #1 may be banned from all future events!

3.   ONLY artificial lures allowed - NO live/dead bait allowed (excluding
     pork strips/frogs).

3.   ONLY ONE line/person in the water at a time.

4.   NO trolling.

5.   "CATCH & RELEASE" policy in effect.

6.   50 Yard Rule - All boats must keep at least 50 yards distance from 
     another boat's "territory".  No crowding-in.

7.   PAYOFFS -	# Teams 	 Payoffs     			
		-------		---------    		
	 	2-5		1 - 100%     		
         	6-10            2 - 60/40    
         	11-20		3 - 50/30/20 		
	 	21+ 		5 - 45/25/15/10/5  
                                     
        Note that we're talking about the actual number of teams
        that show up, not how many that registered.
                                     
       Hawg Pool        Payoff       
       ---------        ------       
       $5 - $100        Heaviest bass takes it
       $105+            50% for Hawg Largemouth
                        50% for Hawg Smallmouth

        Note - if only one species of bass is caught, then it 
        will be distributed 60% to the largest bass and 40% to
        the 2nd largest bass.        
    
8.   Starting time will be 7AM prompt from the marina.  All powered boats
     with motors > 5 HP will draw for starting positions.  Canoes & boats
     with < 5 HP will leave AFTER all powered boats depart to prevent 
     potential swamping from their wakes.

9.   Final weigh-in will be at 3:00 PM at the launch site for ALL.  Given 
     that this event is an all-day affair, it should not be necessary to 
     grant additional time extensions for the smaller boats.

10.  DEAD FISH AT WEIGH-IN - There will be an 2oz penalty for any dead
     fish.  Also there will be a 1 lbs penalty for short fish.
	
	Note - HSJ (the weighmaster) and I decided that we'll measure
        all fish.  This way if you have fish that are real close to 12" but
	your not sure, bring them up and we'll measure them, if they're short, 
	there will not be a penalty.  (No 10 inchers please 8^)
        
11.  See Rule #1!

843.139where am I???BAUCIS::VACHONThu Sep 29 1988 17:3916
     Well I just went down to Zylars and picked up some rain gear,
    hopefully I wont have to use it!! I was going through the TV channels
    last night and caught Al Kaprilen on channel 50 (you know the guy
    that goes nuts over the DEEW POINT!!) and he said that the rains
    might not start until saturday afternoon so take it for what it's
    worth...
    
    I just hope that the rains can hold off until we are out there
    because I get the feeling alot of people will not even show up
    if it's raining in the morning!
    
    hope to see all of you people out there! Oh by the way the LEGEND
    wants me to give Tom Coots a special message on saturday!
    
    Bass-O-Matic Vachon
    
843.140take plan CHPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysThu Sep 29 1988 18:357
    I saw Joe T plan A and Plan B so I am not going to be at this event.
    
    I have furniture coming that day and a stag party that night( that
    I am not suppose to know about) so I will not make it.
    
    Bassin Bob
    
843.141ZZTOP::TOMASJoeFri Sep 30 1988 11:5212
Hey, Bob...see .136!

Latest weather reports now say tomorrow will be quite mild, up in the high 
70's to almost 80, with some breezes, only slight chance of late afternoon 
showers. NOTE:  Monomonac + "slight breezes" = GALE FORCE WINDS & WHITECAPS!

Soooo...things are looking good.  Bring your money, folks...I need to start 
stocking up for next year!

See y'all there!  Good luck!

-HSJ- (who's_bringing_an_extra_battery_just_in_case!)
843.142Fall Fishing Lecture CANCELLED!!!PACKER::BACZKOFri Sep 30 1988 13:5749
    Hey bob!!!!
        
       I'm going!!!!!!
    
    
    
     NO
    
      I'm not going!!!!!!
          
    
      O.K.
    
        I'm going!!!!!!!
    
    
    
      No again
    
        I'm not going!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    WHO CARES!!!!!       I DO, THATS WHO!!!!!!
                              
    
    I mean how am I going to learn about fall fishing if bob is not
    there to tell me all about fall fishing at 4:00P.M.  (see note 834.11)
    
    Mooseface was planning on filming this lecture on his CAM-CORDER
    so we could study it in great detail over the long cold winter.
    
    
    Oh Well 
    
    I guess I'm out of luck!!!
              
    
    No I'm not I can ask the WORM!!
    
    Yo Worm,
    
        Whats the difference between fall fishing and warm weather fishing.
    I mean do I bring more beers or fewer.  Does the consumption rate
    change? 
    
    
    
    Les 
843.143TNN here we comeSCOMAN::TADRYFri Sep 30 1988 17:046
    HELL, Looks like another winter with Billy Westmoreland. Come'on
    Bob, hava heart. If the WTB can't take a joke, don't marry her!. Let
    her wait for the furniture, and then think of the good time you
    could have tomorrow, fishing all day, drinking all day, drinking
    all night. Where do the worm and I sign up?. Your a wimp Robert.
                                     
843.144Do she lak to fish too, huh???DPDMAI::BEAZLEYFri Sep 30 1988 17:1012
    Bassin' Bob,
    
    So chew gonna jomp de broom, huh?? Chew gonna fill dat jar for awhile
    now, huh??
    
    [For dose new-type peoples, bak home in Loosiana wen a Cajun gets
    married his father alweys gib him one ob dem big Mason-type jars
    an his frans gib him some ob dem pento dry beans. For de first year
    wen he mak love he put one bean in de jar an after de first year
    wen he make love he take two out. Mos people neber empty de jar.]
    
    Coonass, who is still tryin to empty de jar!!
843.145Coonass was right 8^)DONMAC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsFri Sep 30 1988 18:067
    See you all in the AM...
    
    And remember, if there are any teams who would like to fish but
    haven't signed up, just show up at the launch in the morning and
    your in!
    
    Don Mac
843.146But snow keeps em colder!SCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWorm fishermen have stiffer rodsFri Sep 30 1988 19:546
    YO Les,
            Re: summer vs winter beer consumption...
    
                There is no difference. CONSUME MASSIVE QUANTITIES!
    
                                     NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~
843.147congrats to the winners!.SCOMAN::TADRYMon Oct 03 1988 10:481
Oh.......it was bad. 
843.148The resultsDONMAC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsMon Oct 03 1988 10:5921
    It was a beautiful day and a it looked like a good time was had by 
    all (especially the worm's partner, Juan %*).
   
    18 teams showed up, our biggest turnout yet.  But Monomonac's bass
    were not to cooperative.  Out of a field of 36 anglers only 3 bass
    were weighed in.
    
    There was a tie for first place. The team of Don Mac (yours truly)
    and The Harbormaster, along with the team of Holeshot Joe and Fish
    Factory Fletcher each weighed in a 2lb 14oz bass that was enough to
    put us in the money. 
    
    2nd place (or 3rd depending on how you look at it) was taken by
    the team of Ranger Ron Scholz and The Texican, who weighed in a
    1lb 15oz bass.   
                        
    I was glad to associate a few more names with faces.
    
    See ya in the spring, or at the expo over the winter,
    
    Don Mac
843.149Congrats!!!!PACKER::BACZKOMon Oct 03 1988 11:078
    Congratulations to the THREE WINNERS!!!!
    
    It was a great day out there, it was nice to put some faces with
    the names.  
    
    See you next spring
    
    Les
843.150Plan "A" worked!VAX4::TOMASJoeMon Oct 03 1988 11:2121
Yeah, it was a good time.  The fish weren't too cooperative, but at least it 
was a better showing than the spring event.

Chris and I decided that we'd stick with Plan "A" and forget about Plan "B" 
or "C".  Obviously, Plan "A" worked out fine!

What was Plan "A" you ask?  It was simple...

	"Winning isn't everything...
		
		but losing SURE SUCKS!"

Sooo...with that in mind, we headed off into the fog and proceeded to have a 
good time!

Once again, it was great seeing all you guys and putting faces to the names. 
Unfortunately, there were a couple of people there that may have a tough 
time even remembering that they went fishing (YO, WORM...how's your partner 
doing??)

-HSJ-
843.151Can I suggest another location: anywhere else!SA1794::CUZZONESIt's better to burn out ...Mon Oct 03 1988 11:2715
    Let me just say:
    
    I will never fish that fish-forsaken hole again!!!
    
    Great place for Pickeral !!!  Bart and I each had one 15+".  Great
    place for Yellow Perch.  I caught one that was between 10 and 12".
    Bart had one or two.  Bart also caught a bass !!!  Too bad it was
    smaller than my perch. 
    
    A pleasure to see you all again, nice to meet some of you for the first
    time.  Thanks for partnering, Bart.  
    
    I will never, repeat, NEVER, fish Monomonac again.
                
    Splitshot Steve
843.152teams that fishedDONMAC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsMon Oct 03 1988 11:3019
1. Don Mac & The Harbormaster
1. Holeshot Joe & FISHIN' FACTORY FLETCHER                               
2. Ranger Ron Scholz & The Texican          

Lorene & Jeff Lange                              
Ray "MOOSEFACE" Tadry & Lester "The Molester" Baczko  
NIGHTCRAWLER~~~ & Juan Corozon'                  
Dave "Bassmaster" Sullivan & Brian "Gone Fishin'" Gaffney
"Splitshot" Steve Cuzzones & Bart "Partnerless No More" Lasky
BASS-O-MATIC Vachon & Lamay                       
"Lavender" Jack Hagerty & Tom "Northwoods" Coots   
Bob "Fuming Midget" Sansing & Bill "Animal" Baker        
Stuart Champiny & Phillip Maynard
Danny Day & Dirk Lust    
The Doctah & Reggie "Crank-'em-in" Ouellette
Tim "Salamander" Hines and Fred "Wormin'" Clark
Tim Tooker & Ken Kulp                               
Dave "Walleye" Watts & Joe "Yahoo" Gulla    
Phil Wells & John Simmons
843.153******MANNOBASS LAKE*******PHILEM::VACHONMon Oct 03 1988 12:0518
     O.K. first congradulations to the winners but what I want to know
    is what type of lure and where did you manage to find the extinct
    bass? (or were they already in the live well?)
    
    Well it was great to put people with faces especially when I found
    out that factory flecher was Chris Flecher that I use to work with!
    Nice catch Chris!!
    
    But Nightcrawler~~~~~ that Juan character!! I got drunk just talking
    to him! I know that he made my day by just watching him fall on
    his face at the landing... I guess he really lives up to the old
    say "I didn't catch any fish but I sure did catch a BUZZ!"
    
    It's too bad that the fishing wasn't that great because I don't
    think I'll ever go to that place again.
    
    BASS-O-MATIC
    
843.154Place was a toilet!!MEDUSA::DAYMon Oct 03 1988 12:1915
    I agree with steve (reply 151), that place was nothing more than
    a large OUTHOUSE!
    I couldn't even use My Hummingbird!
    
    I would like to know who and how mutch and soforth.
    I think we should do it again and have a real lake not a puddle!
    Common Guys!! That place was the worst, I don't want to make a stink
    but I think I speak for others, " that we got taken for a boat ride"
    I am sorry but I think the place it's self broke rule #1 !!!
    Oh well If thats where you are going to have it next year guys
    count me out.  Only thing I got out of that place was a bill for
    a new PROP!
    
    			Danny Who wished he had not trusted!
    
843.155If I had it to do over again ...SPMFG1::CUZZONESIt's better to burn out ...Mon Oct 03 1988 13:4119
    RE:.154  Hey Danny, were you the guys that were lost with Bart and
    I in the fog ?  We didn't find water over a foot deep for the first
    three hours.
    
    So that was Juan Corazon that couldn't find his "land-legs", huh?
    
    Y'know, I saw a lot of faces but didn't get enough of a chance to
    find the names that belonged to them.  Next time let's take a mid-day
    break on shore for a little social intercourse.  I'd like to meet
    Juan while he's still intelligible.
    
    And, reading the list of participants, I assume that was Jeff and
    Lorene Lange in the canoe ?  Congratulations and envy to Jeff. 
    Most of us can't find a woman who'll let us go fishing let alone
    fish with us.  And, a knockout to boot!!
    
    Hope to see you all in Worcester.
    
    Splitshot 
843.156lets try Pawtuckaway or hopkington next time...ROSBUD::LEVESQUEMon Oct 03 1988 13:5833
    Well now. The Doctah is well aware that these guys put the wood
    to us. They didn't catch any bass in Monomonac (indian word meaning
    "Never have a fishing tourney here"). They were already in the
    livewells before they left the dock!!!! :-)
    
     But seriously- to fish all day in the weather and water conditions we
    fished and not catch anything means that there is something wrong
    with the lake. We fished top water, middle water and bottom. In
    the coves, and out in the open water and caught no bass. Must not
    be any bass there. Seriously. I have better luck fishing in a pond
    that's no bigger than a football field (if that big). Fishing for
    2 hours there would have given me more than enough fish to take
    the tournament. A serious change in venue is needed.
    
     And another thing. At the beginning (or end) of the tourney, we
    need to get together and introduce ourselves to each other. I only
    met a few of you guys. I don't know if name tags are needed, but
    I would have liked to know to whom I was speaking more often.
    
     Nice partner 'worm. He was pretty funny. Consonant pronunciation
    was a problem, as was equilibrium, but he obviously had a good time.
    
     I had fun too, but I think it would be alot more fun if everybody
    had some fish. In a place like this, where we were all fishing in
    pretty much the same way, the people who actually caught the fish
    were more lucky than anything. I mean, we all know how to fish,
    and it wasn't that you guys were doing anything different than we
    were; you just happened to go to the spots where the three bass
    in the lake lived.
    
     At least we had a nice day.
    
     The Doctah
843.157See ya in the springCIMNET::GAFFNEYNASCAR **** 600 HORSEPOWERMon Oct 03 1988 14:198
    Another vote for nametags!
    
    BTW  DonMac's livewell was empty when he left the dock, I happened
    to see him catch his fish.  Right out of "The Bassmasters" secret
    cove, that it took us two hours to find.  Damn the fog   :*(
    
    Brian Gone Fishing Gaffney
    
843.158Skunked on his home watersSA1794::CUZZONESIt's better to burn out ...Mon Oct 03 1988 14:337
    
    Don't anybody feel bad about being skunked.  Bart and I watched
    (along with a couple other boatloads of folks whose names I didn't
    catch) a hawk dive talons first into that "secret" cove and come
    up empty.  So, even the locals were getting skunked.
    
    Steve
843.159Gary caught that bird's dinnerSA1794::CUZZONESIt's better to burn out ...Mon Oct 03 1988 14:385
    RE:.157.  Hey, wait a minute, Brian.  DonMac's story was that the
    Harbormonster caught that bass.  I think you were in on it.  How
    much of that $ did you get?
    
    Steve
843.1602 1/2 months...and the jar is already over flowing!SONATA::LANGESTOP!.....continue...Mon Oct 03 1988 14:4313
    RE: .155
  
    Thanks Slipshot :):)
    
    as nor finding a women who lets us fish...I am fortunate to have
    found Lorene,who all winter long,hounds the hell out of me with
    "Winter %$#^...when are we gonna go fishin'...I want to go fishing
    SO bad...."
    
    and after paddling all day (again) saturday)...it was "Were definately
    getting a boat"!!! She's great! and catches fish...when there are
    fish around to be caught....
    
843.161tough lakeDONMAC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsMon Oct 03 1988 14:4433
    Now boys... Let's not get carried away...
    
    The lake *is* a tough lake to fish.  The ONLY reason we have our
    tournies there is because of the location.  It's the only lake that
    both NH and Mass fishing licenses and boat registrations are ok.  
    
    This was our 3rd or 4th tournament on Monomonac, nobody *likes*
    the lake, but it's location keeps us coming back.  But regardless, I 
    for one would also like to see if we can come with someplace else
    for the spring tourny.  
    
    And, yes, we even had witnesses for our catch (even though we tried
    real hard not to let them see 8^).  We got our bass in a grassy
    area by an incoming creek channel on the n/w side of the lake, on
    a weightless worm.  This is an area that I found while practicing
    a couple of days prior to the tournament.  And I know that Joe's
    team caught their fish near a spot where I also caught fish during
    practice. (a long point, with a steep dropoff, twitching a #11 Rapala).
                               
    Anyway, glad to hear that people managed to have a good time, even
    without catching lots of fish.  
    
    I'm going to start another topic on tournaments, not to set one
    up, just to get peoples thoughts on what they'd like to see go on.
    Lots of good ideas have come up during the preparations for this
    one, and afterwards.  We've got a great bunch of guys (and gals)
    and it looks like we'll be able to keep these tournaments going
    with a good turnout. 
    
    Looking forward to seeing some of you again at the Worcester Expo,
    
    Don Mac 
    
843.162yeapDONMAC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsMon Oct 03 1988 14:5714
    >>RE:.157.  Hey, wait a minute, Brian.  DonMac's story was that the
    >>Harbormonster caught that bass.  I think you were in on it.  How
    >>much of that $ did you get?
   
    Steve's right, my parter (The Harbormaster) was the one to catch
    the bass.  You probably just saw me taking it out of the water.  
    But we're a team, so *we* caught the bass.
         
    That fog was soemthing else, probably the worst I've ever been out
    in.  If you had never been to that lake before, it must have been
    a couple hours before you could figure out where you were. 
    
    Don Mac
                                                             
843.163VAX4::TOMASJoeMon Oct 03 1988 15:1825
Steve...that "hawk" we saw in the cove turned out to be an Osprey!  What a 
beautiful bird....its wingspan must have been 5'!

Hey Jeff...all I want to know is what you and Lorene were doing up on that 
island behind the bushes!?!  BTW...can Lorene be my partner in the next 
tourney??

I swore after the first tourney that I'd NEVER fish Monomonac again!  Now, 
after the THIRD time, I'm convinced I don't want to fish it again, even 
though we tied for 1st.

I going to give the NH F&G folks a call to find out more about the Merrimack 
River.  Maybe we could consider two launch sites, one in Nashua for NH folks 
and one in Lowell for MA folks with some mid-way point for the final 
weigh-in.  It's worth considering and certainly far more productive waters 
than Monomonac.

I agree with the others that I didn't get to match up names with faces as 
much as I would have liked.  I dunno 'bout name tags, but the noontime break 
we had at last year's tourney certainly gave us more time to meet each 
other.  A few people (I won't mention names) didn't like the idea...they 
figured they were out there to FISH...not to socialize.  I see it as an 
opportunity to do BOTH!  Whadayathink?

-HSJ-
843.164Gotta socialize.SCOMAN::TADRYMon Oct 03 1988 15:346
    I think a lunch break would have been nice, especially saturday!!!!!.
    I'd go for it next time. 
    Nice job Don for setting things up. We should try a night tourney
    next year, would be fun!
    
    Ray
843.165Thanks for buying us dinnerDONMAC::GARYMon Oct 03 1988 15:3720
    
    
    
    That's right... The team of Don Mac and the Harbormaster caught
    the bass that tied for 1st place.   Don put me on the fish, I
    hooked onto it, fought it though that grass to boat side, and
    Don netted it into the boat and placed it in the livewell.
    That was a team effort.
    
    As for luck... I didn't drive over two hours to get shut out when
    I could have stayed home and caught more bass in 1/10 of the time
    without leaving my dock in RI.  My last keeper tipped the scales
    at 6 - 14 a few weeks back, also on a rubber worm!
    
    'nuff said... it was a pleasure meeting you fellow DECies, and me
    and the wife thank you all for a real nice time dinning out on Sat.
    evening.
    
    The Harbormaster
    
843.166GRAMPS::LASKYMon Oct 03 1988 15:3723
    
    First and foremost I had a good time and meeting at least some of
    the people was great.  Steve thanks for the ride and if your free
    come next year we can get together again.
    
    The Hawk or Opsprey was without a doubt the highlight of the trip.
    To see that baby fly into the water and come up empty handed surely
    made my day!!
    
    The only question that I have was who was the guy at the end of
    the day that had a fish but came to the tourney late!!  I thought
    the rest of the fisherman were going to throw him into the water.
    Well handled Don!

    Well see you all later and give us all a break and let's go someplace
    else.  It will be money well spent for a three day license to catch
    some fish.  By the way the bass I caught was small (9 inches) but
    mighty mean!!
    
    					See you all later,
    
    					Bart Lasky
    
843.167exPACKER::BACZKOMon Oct 03 1988 17:0713
    Ray and I talked to a couple of the locals who lived on the lake.
    One laughed when we answered his question with this response:
    
          " Why yes, we are Bass fishing."
    
    Another said, 
    
          "Catching bass in this lake is an accident."
    
    Oh well thats no excuse for not catching bass, but at least it makes
    me feel better.   
    
    Les
843.168WHERE ARE WE?PHILEM::VACHONMon Oct 03 1988 17:1714
     I almost forgot about the FOG! since that was my first time there
    my partner and I were fishing along the docks and my friend Gerry
    asked "how big is this lake?" 
    
    my reply was "I don't know, why?"
    
    Gerry "because there's a ship over there!!"
    
    so I looked over and you could see the front end of the ship coming
    out of the woods!! I said what the @#$!. But as we got closer we
    realized that it was somebody's idea of a summer camp.
    
    BASS-O-MATIC
    
843.169Me, I anjoyed it too...DPDMAI::BEAZLEYMon Oct 03 1988 17:347
    Hey, it sound lak all ob chew had a gud time an dats whot count!!
    
    By de wey, Joe an Don Mac, I see dat Jean made it op dere in de
    fog an brought de fish to chew. Jes gib him de money an sen him
    bak don chere. (An chew tought his front name wuz Juan??)
    
    Coonass
843.170Even the Master was StummpedCIMNET::DSULLIVANMon Oct 03 1988 17:5225
    
    
      Well,
    
      It was nice meeting all of you. I caught three fish there the
    week before. There were only 3 fish weighed in, Therefor you guy's
    got the only 3 bass in the lake before I did.
      For all those who seen the "Bassmaster" and "Gone Fishin'" fly
    by in the 'Blue Shamrock' we fished our experience to the limit
    out there. If we didn't bring anything into the weigh-in you
    can be assured there were no Bass there. Brain would have taken
    the pickerel pool. I weighed the fish at the house 4lbs 6oz. Too
    bad the biggest fish of the day was the wrong specie!!
      
    DonMac did a super job as tournamnet director !!
    
    Also, My vote is with the flow. A new place. I don't care if I
    have to buy a NH license or not!!
    
    Nice meeting y'all!!
    
    Bassmaster,
    
    Dave Sullivan
    
843.171Thanks guys - Had a great time!!!GOONEY::LANGE_LMon Oct 03 1988 20:017
    Great tourney, even though Jeff and I didn't catch any BASS at this
    tourney we still had a great time catching the crappies, pikes,
    etc.  Thanks for making me feel welcome at the tourney.
    
    Ready and waiting for the next one......
    
    Lorene 
843.172thats how new lures get invented!HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysTue Oct 04 1988 11:3621
    Glad I missed it!!!  Only one fish. Hay does anyone remember what
    last years winning weight was?  I Think there are lots of fish on
    this lake and this time of year it is at it's best.  
    
    Now I am not bragging or anything, but look at the lake,  It's all
    rocks and weeds and dropoffs.  This lake requires many man hours
    to find the fish.  But the tricks that have work for us in the past
    were to use those strange baits that are not atthe market.  
    
    last Year in that fall tournament I caught that 6.2lber on a
    worm/gitzit combination.  Now be honest, How many of you would use
    something like that last year?  Not to many,  Thats the kind of
    thing that is needed on a lake with not so many fish, lots of cover
    and feed, which gets a good amount of fishing presure!!
    
    Try to use your past experiences and think of new things!  some
    will work and some will not.
    
    Bassin Bob
    
    p.s.  last years winning weight was in the teens with 5 fish!
843.173Self proclaimed experts.SCOMAN::TADRYTue Oct 04 1988 12:084
    Gee Dave, I feel a whole lot better now that I read your note. All
    that experiance, wow, and you too didn't catch any fish. I'd like
    to see you and Bass'n Bob in the same boat, or make that barge.
    
843.174VAX4::TOMASJoeTue Oct 04 1988 12:1936
Hey, Bob, let's be honest for a moment.  I don't think anyone can seriously 
doubt your fishing abilities, but there were a number of fairly experienced 
fisherman at this tourney.  With 36 people fishing hard, working ALL the 
various structure, including the deep drop-offs AND shallows, only 3 fish 
were produced.  I worked the standard baits such as worms, jigs, crankbaits, 
gitzits, spinnerbaits and even topwater baits early in the AM.  I then tried 
some more unconventional baits and techniques such as your gizit/worm combo, 
slow-rolling spinnerbaits down the drop-offs, and even tandom rigs such as a 
Zara Spook with a small jig trailer and a Mann's 15+ with jig trailer.

Even the law of averages say that fish should be caught accidentally with 
that many lines in the water.  Math-wise, there were 36 people fishing for 
8 hours...that's 288 man-hours of fishing!  Divided by 3 fish equals 96 hours 
of fishing per fish!  Now THAT'S riduculous!

Sure, you caught 5 fish last year, but that was LAST YEAR!  You know as well 
as the next person that conditions on any given body of water can change 
from hour to hour, let alone day-to-day, or even one year to the next.  And 
how do you explain the pitiful results of your spring tourney at Monomonac?
I wasn't there, but as I recall, NO ONE WEIGHED A LEGAL BASS!

I may not be a "pro," but I do consider myself a fairly accomplished 
fisherman.  I think winning a few tournaments this year bears that out.  I 
am convinced that Monomonac has SERIOUS problems.  I'm not sure exactly what 
the problems are, whether it's acid rain, over-fishing, or what, but there 
is not an abundance of fish in that lake.  Yeah, there are a **few** 5-6 
pounders in there, but ONLY a few.

Again, I don't question your skills.  I often seek your advice and listen
carefully to make myself a better fisherman.  And you have every right to
brag about last year's tourney as you and Rick walked away from the rest of
us.  But I do think that you should give credit when credit is due and also
realize that there are others out there that may be equally as accomplished
as you. 

-Joe-
843.175VAX4::TOMASJoeTue Oct 04 1988 12:2613
I got a little carried away in my last reply...

I did want to say, however, that one of the main reasons for these tourneys 
is to meet each other, HAVE FUN, and throw a little competition in there 
with some financial rewards.

Someone said it earlier, Monomonac itself violates Rule # 1 ... HAVE FUN!

I don't think that I'll do another tourney there.  I'd much rather invest in 
a Mass license and travel 2-3 hours where there's a better opportunity to 
catch fish.

-HSJ-
843.176You Said It PACKER::BACZKOTue Oct 04 1988 12:417
    re.  .175 & .174
    
         Amen to that HS Joe.
    
    
    
    Les
843.177a possible fix.SCOMAN::TADRYTue Oct 04 1988 12:474
    HEY JOE, 
     Maybe we should make Bob and Dave fish with one hand tied behind their
    back and blindfolded. Maybe then we'll have half a chance. I vote
    that be rule #2.
843.178VAX4::TOMASJoeTue Oct 04 1988 13:4816
>>     Maybe we should make Bob and Dave fish with one hand tied behind their
>>    back and blindfolded. Maybe then we'll have half a chance. I vote
>>    that be rule #2.

Naw...I enjoy fishing tourneys with stiff competition, and Bob certainly 
provides that.  It only makes me concentrate and fish harder which 
ultimately teaches me more. PLus, Bob is usually more than willing to share 
his experience.

Even when fishing against Bob and Rick and other good fisherman, I think 
that EVERYONE has better than "half a chance."  Yes, the winning way is 
being able to pull together ALL the factors and understanding the right 
techniques to use given the conditions....BUT...to some degree, being in the 
RIGHT place at the RIGHT time helps!

-HSJ-
843.179RAINBO::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsTue Oct 04 1988 13:4917
    Really Bob... I'm also one of the first to admit that you have earned
    yourself a well deserved reputation as an accomplished angler, but
    I can recall at least two tournaments where you got skunked at
    Monomonac too!  
     
    As I heard another accomplished anlger noter once say; it happens to
    the best of us, and rest of us...!
                                      
    And yes, even I used the gitzit/worm combo! (but just while practicing,
    not during the tourny)          
                                    
    Anyway, as Jim said, don't worry, be happy...
    
    Don Mac - who has had a tournament every week for 4 weeks straight
    and needs some time off  
                                    
    
843.180Lighten Up, BBBOSHOG::VARLEYTue Oct 04 1988 17:1126
     I get a kick out of these notes and have learned a lot, as have
    others like HSJ and DonMac (I remember their early recollections
    and subsequent success). I didn't fish in the tournament, nor do
    I usually plan to fish in them, but one thing seemed a bit out of
    character to me. A guy bails out of the tournament at the last minute,
    then resurfaces a few days later to talk down to all the participants
    and remind them that he caught fish a year ago, while conveniently
    glossing over two "skunks" on the same lake. In sports this would
    be regarded as "no class", but then I guess this isn't really sports.
    In any event, I'd a hell of a lot rather be regarded as a good guy
    first, and a good fisherman second than the other way around. Since
    I got out of the golf business years ago (more fishin' time), I
    try to stay away from competitive situations, 'cause they bring
    out the worst in me. what I'm getting at is if you're good at
    something, people will tell you or events will bear it out, but
    if you have to keep asking for reinforcement, maybe you don't believe
    in yourself.
     Sorry about the "soapbox", but the remarks just rubbed me the wrong
    way, and I think if it's O.K. to gloat in these notes, it ought
    to be O.K. to say "lighten up" too.
    
    --The Skoal Bandit (who figgers that being better'n him doesn't
    get you any closer to Ricky Clunn).
    
    
    
843.181I hope He's got the picture by now...CIMNET::DSULLIVANTue Oct 04 1988 18:3715
    
    
    RE: 173-180
    
       I guess Bob gets the point by now... I can show you the pictures
    of a 4lb 12oz fish that I caught and a 3lb even fish my wife caught
    the Sunday before in the spot where the Harbour Master caught his.
       This was only a week before the tourney not a year ago. So Bob...
    got the point. IT WAS NOT A GOOD DAY FOR FISHING!!!                 
       Let's get back on the track of rule #1 !!
    
       Bassmaster,
    
       Dave Sullivan
    
843.182pardon the sp I was on a rollHPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysTue Oct 04 1988 20:1933
    Boy last time I try to give some advice!!  I was just tring to give
    the guys who got skunked a lift!   I did say I was not tring to
    brag!!  I was just tring to get you to think about different ways
    to make the best out of the lake!
    
    Yes Don I have fished 6 tournaments
    on that lake and do you know what!!!  I won three and got skunked
    at three!  So don't worry.
    
    As for fishing that lake!!  You folks picked it becasue we all want
    to fish together insted have having two different places.  No one
    from MA wants to pay to regester their boats in NH and Vise versa!
    
    <flame on>
    I will not usually shot my mouth off with out being there to back
    it up.  I know my past note has some good shots in it but I was
    also trying to be very serious about what I was saying!  
    
    I would have loved to be there.  I notice this file is very quite
    now that this tournament is over and all the "I am going to *&(*
    you off the water" stuff has stopped.

    I did not intend to take anything away from the winners.  The did
    a great job, (well except for Joe, I would have DQ him from what
    he has said in the past note about two baits on a rigg  :^) )
    
    SO so so Hay What the H*ll sorry folks
    
    <flame Off>

        
    bassin Bob  see you all in the spring!!
    
843.183VAX4::TOMASJoeWed Oct 05 1988 11:4624
>>    I did not intend to take anything away from the winners.  The did
>>    a great job, (well except for Joe, I would have DQ him from what
>>    he has said in the past note about two baits on a rigg  :^) )

Hey Bob...whadaya talking about?  First, you mentioned something about using 
non-conventional types of baits, and now you blast me for using a real 
unusual technique that was discussed in BassMasters mag as a technique that 
sometimes works when all else fails?  I don't get it.

I don't think that putting two baits on a single line is cheating or 
unethical. In fact, it's a common saltwater practice to use teasers and even 
in fresh water for salmon and trout.  Why not bass?  

If it had worked and **I** caught the bass instead of my partner, I'm sure 
some folks would have said, "Gee...interesting idea...smart move!"  Yes? No?

Anyways, Bob....I'm sorry that you didn't make it.  I always enjoy getting 
together with you to BS and talk about things near and dear to our hearts...
FISHING!    

See you at the Centrum!

-HSJ- (who_doesn't_even_wanna_think_about_ICE_yet!)    

843.184gotta have sumthin to do this wintah...SONATA::LANGESTOP!.....continue...Wed Oct 05 1988 11:573
    Yo Joe...What's the skinny on that Tracka?
    		
    				Fish-less-Jeff
843.185HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysWed Oct 05 1988 12:599
    Hay Joe!!
    
    I have not look over Don rules yet but in most tournaments you are
    only allowed onr rod with one bait in the water at a time!  I did
    not say it was not a good way to catch fish.  I just said it would
    not be allowed in a B.A.S.S. event.
    
    Bob
    
843.186VAX4::TOMASJoeWed Oct 05 1988 16:0027
We did establish the rule that only one line in the water at a time and the 
lures must be artificial.  No one went to the extent of saying only one bait 
per line.  As I don't fish B.A.S.S. tourneys, I'm unfamiliar with all the 
rules and regs.

I guess we might want to include that in our rules, huh?  Afterall, what's 
to prevent the next guy from stringing out a TROTLINE of artificials?  It 
IS only ONE line, right?

Anyways, like I said before, even that didn't work!  But you can't fault me 
for trying.

-HSJ-


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			 \_________ Texas rigged worm
    

843.187LEGALALITIESRAINBO::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsWed Oct 05 1988 16:031
    but then is a trailer hook on a spinnerbait legal?
843.188HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysWed Oct 05 1988 19:0511
    >I don't fish B.A.S.S. touraments so I wouldn't know
    
    
    Well Joe you quote B.A.S.S. mag so much you should read the tournament
    rules once in a while during the classic issues!!

    As for Don and trailer hooks, that is allowed because it is the
    same bait not a string of baits.
    
    bob
    
843.189HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysThu Oct 06 1988 18:2512
    Hay I have a great idea for next year for all the people who 
    complain about mono.
    
    We will start with a swimming pool, (filtered so it is clear )
    put in all kinds of rocks and trees, so there will be lots of
    structure.  Then stock it!!
    
    Make a map for every one where we put all the fish !!!!!
    
    Think this will work!   :^)
    
    Bassin Bob
843.190Anybody home?CIMNET::GAFFNEYNASCAR **** 600 HORSEPOWERThu Oct 06 1988 22:033
    Yo NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~~~~, you been pretty quiet since the
    tournament.  You and Juan make it home OK?   :*)   :*)   :*)
    
843.1912 days.....lousy weather....yuckSCOMAN::TADRYFri Oct 07 1988 18:468
    Don't know who all is fishing this weekend at the fish off in Webster,
    but good luck!!. I know Les and Bassin Bob are teamed up for one of
    the two days. Now I want both of you to fish nice and don't fight!!!.
    Yea Bob, I'll look for you at the ramp. I would like to put a name
    to a face. Don't worry, you won't miss Les.....he has the face even
    his own mother doesn't love. See you then.
    
    Rt.