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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

152.0. "Tuna Fever" by ELWOOD::VROBEL () Mon Jul 14 1986 18:04

    
    	I really got hooked on this one. Usually its the other
    	way around. Caught my first one 657 lbs. and it was
    	all over. Had to get a bigger boat. Now own and operate
    	a 35' down easter out of Newburyport. Have caught 3
    	more since. All about 600 + pounds. Still waiting to
    	get lucky. Wouldn't mind getting a Sword fish either.
    	They take a few in close every now and then.
    
    	Started out hand lining. Saw a few fish ironed and
    	then decided to add a pulpit and tower. Now I'm hooked
    	on sticking, but do hand lining occasionally. Just added
    	a new 16' pulpit. I missed three fish in one day last
    	year so I needed a bigger pulpit. Next it will be
    	again a bigger boat.
    
    	When your hand lining and you hook up, you really have
    	a fight on your hands. It's like who has who. It takes
    	about 2 hours + to kill the fish and every bit of muscle
    	you have. They can swim at 60 + miles an hour and don't
    	have any problem pulling a 35' boat. The last fish I
    	caught pulled my boat and my arms for about 2 miles
    	before I had him hanging.
    
    	I looked through this notes file and didn't see anything
    	at all about tuna so decided to add one. Any body out
    	there had any experience ? Or interest ?
                             
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152.1 Popeye's Arums!! EAYV01::TRAVERSTue Jul 15 1986 09:0730
    
    Weel Vrobel,. 
    	
    	I must say here that ye made masel sweat alot jist 'reedin'
    yer note!, an afore ye reed further i hope ye take this in the
    spirit its ment. 
    
    	Furstly, ma ain name is Trapper an a stay in Scotland @ the top
    o England. When talkin aboot fish in the 600pun+class ,tae say that 
    han lining is a hanfu' is the best 'pun' a've heard in a lang time
    it even beats C.B's 'cuz its eezy to spel'. A've oanly thoat aboot
    this tipe o fishin, cept the time a cast ma flees tae a thing in
    excess o 2000pun oan Loch Ness, mindye , talkin aboot speed, a yince
    heard o a fishermon fishin the R.Doon by the roadside hookin a 'coach'
    travelin at 50mph, oan the backcast!, oan its run towards the village
    o Patna it 'broke' him!, och but oan the road back the fishermon
    managed tae halt the coach an retrieve his flees which were firmly
    imbedded in an upstairs  windy!!
    
    	I see ye needed a higher pulpit oan yer boat! this will pit
    ye nearer God fur yer prayers when ye hook yin o these monsters!!.
    i disnae like tae think whit lenth yer arums wid be efter bein
    pulled fur 2 miles, dae they shrink back??. If ye need a bigger
    boat the Queen Lizzy mite be comin up fur aukshun soon!
    
    Nixt time yer intae yin o these big chappies a'll be thinkin o 
    ye!
    
    		Cheery the noo!................Trapper John.
    
152.2Was that Charlie Tuna??ASGMKA::TOMASJoeTue Jul 15 1986 12:1013
    Tuna fishing is one sport that I've never had the opportunity to
    experience.  I used to live in the North Shore (Hamilton) and boated
    out of the Essex River and fished primarily for bottom fish plus
    stripers and blues.  Unfortunately, my little 16' boat wasn't large
    enough to tackle a fish that could easily outweigh the boat.
    
    I've often considered trying it, but most of the charters I've seen
    charge an outrageous fee PLUS they usually keep any fish you catch!
    So...if you ever get the desire to go and need a "crew"...well...
    I'm sure I can find "someone" that would be willing to help out.
    
    -Joe- (who_really_loves_tuna_casserole)
     
152.3Irons?Are they wrinkled?NYALYF::HORWITZTue Jul 15 1986 15:0820
    Hand lines, irons...
    	Wait until you try one on Rod and Reel! (I think that's all
    that we are allowed to use down here)
    	I would guess you're talking about bluefins (if it went over
    600#).
    Down herre off Jersey we prbably see more yellow-fins and big-eyes
    than "horse mackeral". These are primarily taken on 50to 80#  outfits.
    The new rage around here is "stand-up" tackle. This is an import
    from California where the Party boats go out for tuna. Granted,
    th stand-up rods look a little strange (short butt/looonnnggg foregrip)
    but after taking a couple of middle-weights (200-300#), with your
    Knees against the gunnels and the harness cutting into your back
    (they never fit right) you know you been doin' some fishin'!
    Well, good luck up there, and don't forget that the NMFS is saving
    the last 100 tons of bluefins for Jersey (Last year a surf-man got
    a schoolie of about 180 lbs at Sandy Hook)
    
    Tight lines,
    Rich 
    {{Beach bagel who used to be a boat bagel}}
152.4re: # 3ELWOOD::VROBELTue Jul 15 1986 20:0122
    
    	I've seen 8 hour battles on rod and reel. Thats one reason
    	I don't do it. I thought about it and decided not to. A friend
    	of mine caught his first rod and reel giant last year
    	a 395 lb bluefin. The battle lasted 3 1/2 hours. And it
    	was pure work. Another big problem is that you need a
    	full crew. Some to run the boat, some to fight the fish,
    	someone to steer the chair, and someone to watch the line.
    
    	You can handline by yourself. I've done it, but wouldn't
    	recommend it. Know many guys who do it alone. Your taking
    	a bigger chance of getting tangle in a line.
    
    	All the fish I've caught have been bluefins. I've heard
    	that the smaller fish "less than 300" really are a lot
    	of fun on lighter gear "work".
    
    	I know that they save the last 100 short tons for the 
    	mudhole fisherman down there. The fishing up here
    	generally turns from good to great, then they shut us
    	down so there is enough of the quota for the southerners'.
    
152.5Only one way to find out6172::BROPHYWed Jul 16 1986 12:549
        I'm still real new at this salt water fishing game doing
        mostly Striper and Blue fish from my small 14' Mirrow Craft.
        Could someone out ther explain what is meant by "hand lining"
        for tuna. To me all I can think of is using handlines as in
        cod fishing and given the size of these fish I can't see it
        the same thing.
    
        Mike
    
152.6hand liningELWOOD::VROBELThu Jul 17 1986 17:5735
    
    	re: 152.5
    
    	First you start with a laundry basket into which you "put"
    	"not coil" 450' of 7/16 pot warp "special soft lay made
    	of nylon and cotton". Then you splice on 50' of 3/16" nylon
    	and add a 500 lb. swivel at the end. Your leader and hook
    	terminates the rig. I generally like an 11 ot mustad giant
    	tuna hook "it approches the size of a gaff". To the other
    	end of the line you attach a float "Gloucester Ball". In
    	the old days they used kegs.
    
    	I generally fish four of these rigs at varying depths. You
    	anchor up or drift with these lines setout and baited. Also
    	chum with cut bait until "mister big" comes along and
    	gets in your chum slick and takes your bait. Then all h_ll
    	breaks loose. The fight is usually 2 hours + long. The
    	first few runs will almost empty the basket. If he takes
    	all the line out you can either snap on another line "called
    	a snap on" or throw the float out. Then follow the float
    	for a while, pick it up and give it another try. 
    
    	If all is done correctly you'll kill the fish. All of this
    	is done with your hands. Its a good idea to wear Gloves
    	"I prefer cotton" because they get wet. Otherwise you'll
    	burn you hands "done that many times". When you get the
    	fish to the boat, you harpon it of gaff it with a flying
    	gaff". Then take it to market and collect your reward.
    	On the way in "its Miller Time".
    
    	Thats the basics. I purposely left out the secrets. Most
    	fisherman do. If you work long at it you'll pick up the
    	pieces.
    
    	= JV                                  
152.7IT MAKES MEN CRAZYPSYCHE::DECAROLISThu Aug 07 1986 20:4325
    I've been going out of Cape Ann for about 12 years in search
    of Tuna with my father who gets "possessed" every July and August.
    One year we had a hookup at 2:00 Sunday afternoon, surfaced the
    fish at 6:00, "Charlie" checked us out and then took a dive.  He
    remained under for another 5/6 hours, we fought him in the
    chair until it got dark, then we put the rod into the rod holders
    on the side of the boat.  Around 4 o'clock in the morning, this
    fish tore the rod holders out of the boat.  That is, all the screws
    loosened up and the hardware popped out.  We then switched to the
    other side of the boat.  At 6:00 Monday morning I finally convinced
    my father to call for X-tra help.  I did see $$$$ signs in the pupils
    of his eyes.  This fish looked roughly in the vacinity of 1200 lbs.
    
    We put 3 more men on the boat at 7 a.m., relieved the driver, and
    fought this fish for another couple of hours.  When he surfaced,
    we had the gaff ready, (we should have had a gun).  The leader line
    then snapped, (timing was perfect), and we all watched "Charlie" swim
    back out to mid-bank to join his friends.  Charlie had dragged us
    from mid-bank to break-water outside of Gloucester harbor.  The
    boat is a 41-foot Hateras.  
    
    I've seen tuna caught in less than 1/2 hour, the secret being a
    well-organized & experienced crew, with just a little bit of luck.
    
    I have my own boat now and go fishin' for cod.  
152.8reply to 7ELWOOD::VROBELThu Sep 04 1986 20:4532
    
    	re: 7
    
    	I was on the northwest corner of Stellwagen one day and
    	saw a small sport fisherman hook up on a tuna. The boat
    	was about a 24 - 26 foot center console with the chair
    	in the bow. The boat fought the fish most of the (for
    	at least 8 hours) and still hadn't boated the fish. Two
    	guys on the boat one in the chair and the other driving.
    	I lost track of the boat and don't even know if he ever got
    	the fish.
    
    	On another occaision I saw two guys in a 26' owens hookup
    	on a tuna. On the first run they turned the fish and
    	brought it toward the boat (approx 30 feet off the beam).
    	The guy not fighting the fish, picked up and wheeled
    	the harpon and connected. The fish was boated in 12 minutes.
    
    	I think the tuna decides how long the battle will be. But
    	a well trained and organized crew makes a very big difference
    	in how long and whether or not you ever get "charlie".

    	I've been at it for about 10 years and still can't shake
    	the "FEVER". The current price is TEN dollars a pound. One
    	fish will cover expenses for this year and next. But it's
    	not only the money, it's the thrill of battling "mister
    	big himself".
        
    	A bad day of fishing is better than a good at work.
    
    	= JV
                                                           
152.9Reply to 8PSYCHE::DECAROLISTue Sep 16 1986 17:2721
    Aye, if you're the captain I think its a lot more fun.
    If you're a Sunday bather (me), by 5:00 it gets pretty boring
    out there.....especially if you don't get a hook-up.  My
    assignment if we get a hook-up is to drop the anchor.  I
    try to go when I know there's a crew shortage.  I agree,
    its a thrill to fight something that big.....you can't see
    it, but you sure as heck can feel it. 
                              
    The boat "Simpatica" eats up $150/worth of fuel on the weekend.
    When "dad" starts going out every day in August and September,
    it gets expensive and he needs to catch 3 or more fish to
    show any kind of profit.  On top of that he's got his chum
    expense.  
    
    He said he'd get divorced before he'd give it all up!  I repeat:
    
    "It makes men crazy"!    Thank god its temporary.               
    
    Jeanne
    
    
152.10CHARLIE OR NOT I'LL TAKE TUNAMLCSSE::RIOPELTue May 05 1987 20:5914
I am a new noter and couldn't pass up a response. I managed to get 2 small
schoolies last year off "NO MANS". 


             I HAVE GIVEN UP BLUEFISHING !!!!!!!!11

THERE IS NOTHING LIKE  TUNA...

SEE YOU ON THE THE GROUNDS....

"OLD SOUL"

MIKE.    

152.11SMURF::AMATOTue May 17 1988 12:438
    Jeanne,
    
    I was out on stellwagon last sat, and I think I was fishing with
    your dad's boat.  Is it a 40' Ocean?  Nice lookin, and fast.  
    Well guys, the big macks are in.  How much longer till we see some
    horse macks around the banks?  Any reports from New Jersey?
    
    joe
152.12N.J. TUNAMAMTS1::TAMICOWed Jul 06 1988 19:485
    YES,YES New Jersey checking in.. The biggest I was a part of was
    a 150lb YELLOWFIN. WE do some trolling (almost like bluefishing)
    and some chunking. I'd love to see a 700lb tuna on the end of my
    line. Never did any handlining, and haven't heard of it being done
    in N.J. Maybe its worth a try...
152.13Best be headin' fo' the Mud holeVIDEO::LEVESQUEI fish, therefore I am.Wed Jul 06 1988 20:194
    Most giant tuna fishing down NJ way is done at the Mud hole.
    Can you get there from where you are TAMICO?
    
    The doctah
152.14YCAPL::LANDRYTue Aug 28 1990 13:1112
    
    I wanted to register my first and hopefully not last Tuna in NOTES.
    I already put the "TUNA Tail" in Note 80.161 so will not repeat
    it here.  I'm checking all other NOTES files to see what other TUNA
    info is in.  I notice that the "REGISTER YOUR HAWG(S) HERE!" NOTES
    file is more updated that this one with the last note in here
    6-JUL-1988.
    	
    		Briefly it was a GIANT BLUEFIN TUNA 310# Rod & Reel
    		20min to bring in.  (Yes the crew made the "Big"
    		difference) Caught on 5-AUG-1990 off Chatham.