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Conference wahoo::fishing-v2

Title:Fishing-V2: All About Angling
Notice:Time to go fishin'! dayegins
Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUE
Created:Fri Jul 19 1991
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:548
Total number of notes:9621

274.0. "Wachusett Reservoir" by MPGS::BICKES () Fri Mar 19 1993 08:57

                            Wachusett Reservoir
    
     I looked for notes on this Reservoir, Did not see any,
              Through that I would start one. Does anyone
              know when the Reservoir opens, cause I heard
              to different dates. What do folks use there ?
              Does anybody make the yearly trek there ? I
              made the trek three years in a row but didn'nt
              catch anything. I know a few people make the trek
              on opening day. Maybe I will get something this
              year on opening day. Good Luck   
                                             WIZzard of SHR.
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274.1There's probably lots of info in archived fishingSUBPAC::CRONINFri Mar 19 1993 11:387
    RE: .0	
    
    	For opening date call the MDC at 508-365-3272.... 
    
    	Very general questions....  What do you want to fish for?
    
    					B.C.
274.2DELNI::OTAFri Mar 19 1993 11:504
    Thats right what are you after?  I have fished the Wachusetts and
    caught rainbows, browns and smallmouth bass.
    
    Brian
274.3SA1794::CHARBONNDit's the fling itself.Fri Mar 19 1993 12:172
    I think it opens the same day as Quabbin Reservoir, which is
    usually the third Saturday in April.
274.4Try an egg sinkerMSBCS::MERCIERFri Mar 19 1993 13:3222
    The set ups used by most people for lakers during the first few weeks
    of the season are a good casting rod set up with an egg sinker and
    shiner.
    
    --------------0------oo------------------<==~
        line     egg   barrel  24" to 36"   favorite
                sinker swivel   leader        bait (usually a large live
                                                    shiner)
    This set up will allow you to cast further, get down to the bottom
    where the lakers are 90% of the time and allow the laker to run with
    the bait. While using this set up you must leave your bail open. When
    the fish takes it the line will run through the egg sinker with little
    resistance. The general rule is to count to 10, close the bail and set
    the hook.
    
    I have caught a couple of 8 pounders, a few five pounders and numerous
    1 to 3 pounders. Have yet to catch the big one and to make matters
    worse. The fishing has seemed to have gone down hill the last 3 to 4
    years.
    
    Hope this helps
    Bob 
274.5nice foliage, but where's the fishSIETTG::SMITHConsulting is the GameMon Mar 22 1993 20:0811
       I fished Washusetts a couple of times last year and a couple of
    times the previous year. The scenary was simply awesome, but the
    fishing wasn't. I'd go back there again for a foliage trip with
    the family, but I won't waste my time trying to fish it again...
    note: I was Bass fishing with artificials (mostly Plastic worms),
    but I did try a few Trout spinners just for laughs. Please don't
    tell anybody that I've never ever caught a Trout anywhere...
    
    						stock them Tackle boxes,
    									Bob
    
274.6Trust me thay are there,,,"sometimes"EMDS::MMURPHYTue Mar 23 1993 09:2912
    
         Bob
    
           You don't know what your missing. Send me mail if you
         realy want to get into some Trout/salmon or smallies. Last
         spring BC and I got in to some nice smallies fishing artificials.
     
            We have also between the both of us have put a good # of
         salmon on the shore. You would flip if you new one of the
        ways BC ws catching salmon!! I called it the ABC's of fishing.
    
                                                       Murph
274.7DELNI::OTATue Mar 23 1993 11:194
    I agree with the murph and BC, don't write wachucetts out is has some
    very nice fish if you know where to go and what to use. 
    
    Brian
274.8I couldn't resistKELVIN::VALOISTue Mar 23 1993 13:2123
      
                       I couldn't resist this time !!
    I'm usually a reader and not a writer in this conference But !!!
    Wachusett has some of the biggest fish in the State swimming in it!
    Several current state records come from its waters. I for one caught the
    largest Smallmouth in the state in 1985 @ an unofficial 7# 2oz. and 
    a state certified 6# 6oz.
    Most of the Guys I fish Wachusett with have all caught Smallies in
    excess od 5 lbs.
    I know people who have done very well for lake trout there. I havn't
    myself.
    I feel it's a pretty hard place to fish. But you have to keep pluggin'
    It is a large body of water with no boat fishing at all. No ice fishing
    at all.
    Imagine what the fishing would be like even if the state opened it up 
    to canoes or electric trolling motors like they do on Washacum!
    I feel you would undoubtably have the best fishing in the state for a
    long time. You pretty much do now !!!
    
    You've got to pay your dues...............................Steve
     
    
    
274.9MSBCS::HURLEYTue Mar 23 1993 13:292
    with no boats at all maybe this is the place to try the "kite fishing"
    i've been reading about???
274.10I'd bet it'd work!KELVIN::VALOISTue Mar 23 1993 13:4210
    It probably would !!....I've thought of it ...but never tried it.
    
    How about a small remote control boat that you could send your bait out
    on ?  drop it off the boat where you want it...and then recall the boat 
    back to you.....
    
    The thing with the kite is you would always have to have a wind that is 
    off shore....might be a bit of a problem at times!
    
                                                                 SV
274.11They -will- arrest you. A boat is a boat is a...SUBPAC::CRONINTue Mar 23 1993 14:2211
    	The MDC has the rules set up so -no- boats, not even little remote
    control types can be used...  (Bummer)
    	Could be a problem trying to use a kite...  It's so hilly around
    the shoreline that if you did have an offshore wind you'd most likely
    be sitting in dead calm air.  Of course there are a few spots like the
    causeways and a few points that might work.
    	Long (I mean -long-) ago Paul Kukonen spent years trying to get the
    MDC to at least do a study on the feasability of a canoe/rowboat
    fishery there.  It was just an exercise in frustration, they wouldn't
    even think about thinking about it!!!
    						B.C.
274.12EMDS::MMURPHYTue Mar 23 1993 14:269
    
     How about a small remote control boat that you could send your bait
    out on?
    
      I belive nothin but bait/lure gos in the water.  It is a nice
    place to walk/fish, but it is also turning into a DUMP! Yes DUMP
    
                                                             murph
       
274.13KELVIN::VALOISTue Mar 23 1993 15:2515
    
    I know some time ago say maybe 10 years or the MDC was also thinking 
    about opening it up to ice fishing. I guess they thought better against
    it,because it never  happened. 
    
    I have seen people arrested for fishing off the dykes. Also I know of 
    2 individuals who were hammering largemouths fishing at night. 
    Eventually they were caught by the Clinton Police, thrown out of the 
    area, but never arrested or prosicuted.
    
    Also I think that they should go back to the old days when you had
    to go to the Clinton Dam and pay a buck ($1.00) to get a permit to
    fish. I remember that the entire area was very clean then. 
    
                                                                  Steve
274.14DELNI::OTATue Mar 23 1993 15:5311
    There actually a small unit with a prop and a battery that is big
    enough to push a line and lure out to some preset distance.  Spag sells
    them.  I often thought of these units when fishing the Wachusetts.  It
    seems always that the biggest jumps are about 10 yards from your
    fartherst cast.
    
    I have stood on the shore and seen monster smallies swimming the break
    lines.  I mean monster smallies.  But that water is so clear its hard
    to fool them with aritificials.
    
    Brian
274.15EMDS::MMURPHYTue Mar 23 1993 16:0016
    
    
     Steve point well made! I'd pay a buck! Years ago the only
     thing you would see as far as trash gos is LINE and broken
     bobbers. I never remember seeing burnt cans, plastic oil
     containers,coffee cups, just plan ole' crap! I do belive 
     some of it does blows in from the causeway (near hotdog truck).
    
      But lets face it, theres alot carried in, not much carried out.
      I've said it before, some day the wrong people with walk the 
      shores see the litter and there will be no more fishing.
                                 
                                        I can just feel it.
                   
                                        am I right or wrong??
                                                  murph
274.16EMDS::MMURPHYTue Mar 23 1993 16:165
    
     Oat my man!!  Please keep your boat in your tub at home. I
     don't want anything to happen to you at the Wachusett Reservior.
    
                                                    Mom
274.17 {Lakers, Map}MPGS::BICKESWed Mar 24 1993 05:2616
    
       Re: 01-02
     I be Looking to Catch Lackers, Brown or Rainbow Trout, I have 
       cought Bass there but in All the Years (Spring Fishing) never
       Cought Lakers. I call the M.D.C. they said it opens the First
       of April unless it is lock in by Ice which it will open later
       which He could not give me a date, I asked if it would be in
       the paper, He said They (M.D.C. do not put it the paper, also
       he said that they have a map of Wachusett Res. with depths on
       it for 3 Dollers, I though that it was STEEP so I went to the
       Dept of Forests& Parks & got a copy for NONTHING, It does not
       have the Depths, But you all are Wecome to a Copy just send
       mail...WIZzard of SHR.
    
    
      
274.18Next..Salmon & Trout fishin!!!EMDS::MMURPHYMon Apr 05 1993 12:1113
    
     
        April 1st was the set date to open up fishing for the "93"
     season at the Wachusett. But because of 10" of ice (as of yesterday)
     the res will not open. There has to be ZERO ice on the lake before
     its open to fisherman. So what the heck are people doing casting
     from shore near the stone church!!! Anyway, this weekend was
     kind of a bummer....because of unsafe ice I was forced to WD-40
     all my tip-ups clean out my ice box, and wrap it tight in plastic 8^(
    
         Next!! Comet Pond trout, Wachusett salmon an Laker fishin
    
                                                    Kiv
274.19next best thing!!!MSBCS::MERCIERMon Apr 05 1993 12:379
    Kiv,
    
    Sounds like your from Worcester County. You should have ventured to 
    Fort Pond!!! Best ice fishing all winter. Between two of us we landed
    3 Browns and a big Rainbow...... Under that three inches of mush was 10
    inches of black ice.......
    
    Still waiting for spring :^(
    Bob M.
274.20EMDS::MMURPHYMon Apr 05 1993 13:299
    
     WoW !!!
    
         Bob guess were I'll be saturday!! Thats great, I'm
     not in a real big hurry for soft water yet, especially
     when theirs fishing like that still available. 
     
                                   Thanks for the info
                                                 Kiv
274.21 Wachusette's Opening 4-12-93MPGS::BICKESWed Apr 07 1993 09:565
                          Are You All Ready ?
    
    I called the Fish & Game they Said it will open on April 12, 1993,
        will be there fifth year, on opening Day...WIZzard of SHR.
    
274.22PCCAD::RICHARDJPretty Good At Barely Getting ByWed Apr 07 1993 17:324
    How much ice is left on Comet pond ?
    
    
     Jim
274.23WMOIS::CARPENTER_EThu Apr 08 1993 15:478
    
    Jim there is still 6 to 8 inches of ice as of 4/7. There is about 4" of 
    slush before you hit the ice. 
    
    P.S.  Watch it around the shore there are spots that are not to safe.
    
    
                                                                  EARL 
274.24SWAM1::WIERSUM_GAThu Apr 08 1993 18:365
    
    There is no real reson to "watch it around the shore line".  you aint
    suppose to set foot on the ice anyway.
    
    TWRW
274.25any update..EMDS::MMURPHYWed Apr 14 1993 16:035
    
     Well, how did we make out Monday??? Anybody
     make it out? 
    
                                     Murph
274.26PCCAD::RICHARDJPretty Good At Barely Getting ByWed Apr 14 1993 19:175
    I didn't fish it, but as I drove by yesterday morning I couldn't help
    feel concerned seeing all the trash along the shore line. Lots of
    styrofoam bait containers and coffee cups. 

    Jim
274.27NOTE 274.26 BY SCOMAN::BELONGIESTRATA::BELONGIEThu Apr 15 1993 00:278
    Hi, Iam usally just a reader of this notes file. Went to Wachussette
    monday morning. Was able to get two lakers by 10am both fish were 22 to
     23 inches and aproxametly 4 lbs each. Both caught on shiners in about
    50 feet of water. Have done really well there in the last two years
    with fish from 4 to 8lbs and some salmon. I fish big bait and deep
    water in hopes of Mr.Big. 
    
                               Craig
274.28Mr. & Mrs. BigRUXPIN::PERRYThu Apr 15 1993 09:499
    
    Dear Craig,
     
         I've fished the Res. a number of times but have not been as lucky
    as you, maybe because I could not find out where the good deep
    drop-offs were. Would you be willing to say where you were fishing for 
    Mr. Big.
    
                            Good Fishing.........Jack Perry
274.29Nice weather, no fishROYALT::GAFFNEYGone fishin/racinThu Apr 15 1993 13:208
    I went yesterday afternoon and got zip.  There was so much ice, we
    could barely wet a line.  I did see a salmon SMASH a wounded shiner
    struggling on the surface.  Unfortunatly, the shiner wasn't on anyone's
    hook  :*(
    Oh well, try again next week.
    
    Gone fishin
    Gaff
274.30Never tried it, but might this w/e.GNPIKE::NICOLAZZOOver 5,000,000,000 served.Thu Apr 15 1993 13:478
    I have a few questions regarding fishing for lakers in Wachusett -
    
    What size hook do you use?
    
    How do you hook the shiners? (back or lips)
    
    		Thanks,
    			Robert.
274.31 FINALLYMPGS::BICKESWed Apr 21 1993 04:0116
                  { Caught One }
    
     Well after Five Years I finally Caught a Laker this past Monday, About
          10:30 in the morning, Seven pound Twentynine inches, with Nu# 4
          hook, hooked though the lips, Back in this file told me how to
          rig it up, The only thing happen is that walking Twenty minutes
          back to the car and driving to Wachusetts bait shop on RTE. 110
          the laker droped 1/4 pound so I could not receive the pin from
          the state, The man said fish stared to dehydrated, to keep him
          in a Five Gal. bucket with water, I replyed that 20 Minute walk
          with a 7 lb. fish in a bucket with 5 gals. of water would take
          a man like HULK HOGAN, his reply to get a bigger fish.. Oh-well
          The picture is there, He did take length, Width & skin sample oh
          weight.. Good Luck P.S. I did pick up other peoples trash on
          the way out. Nonething was inside the fish guess they are
          REALLY Hungry...          WIZzard of SHR.
274.32Congrats....MSBCS::MERCIERWed Apr 21 1993 13:1110
    Congratulations WIZ!!!!
    
    I doubt you'll need a pin to remember that fish.....It took me a couple
    of years of spying on the oldtimers and talking to people before I
    landed my first "good" Laker (8lbs.). You have to put in your time
    at that place before you get results.
    
    Hope the egg sinker diagram helped you out.
    
    Bob M.
274.33WHITE PERCHWMOIS::WALES_WWed Apr 21 1993 20:075
    	DOSE ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE BIGGEST WHITE PERCH IS THAT HAS BEEN
    TAKEN FROM THE HERE. A FIEND OF MINE CAUGHT ONE 2 LBS 15 IN. IS THIS
    BIG OR JUST AVERAGE. 
    
    WW
274.34WAHOO::LEVESQUEQue Syrah, SyrahThu Apr 22 1993 12:422
 That's a big one, but it's only about half the weight of the state record.
Most white perch are about 3/4 of a lb to 1 lb.
274.35Nice warm up!!EMDS::MMURPHYMon Apr 26 1993 14:507
    
     From what I hear, the fishing has been good!!! (Salmon & Lakers)
     
     I was only able to fish it yesterday afternoon, for about an
     hour and a half. Saw a Laker and a Salmon caught. Sure was
     nice just getting out casting!!
                                                      H-B
274.36 Another OneMPGS::BICKESWed Apr 28 1993 09:386
    
    I caught one more so far, a four pounder 21 inches long, Yep
      Bob M. I used your set up, works find. I noticed a older
      man use the same set up but he had a small plastic beed
      between the swivel and the weight, I could not figger
      why, Do you all know ?      WIZzard of SHR.
274.37Save the beeds for bass fishing!!EMDS::MMURPHYWed Apr 28 1993 10:5711
    
     Wizz
    
         The beed prevents the egg sinker from smashing the knot
     that is tied to the swivel. Sunday I used a 3/4 oz egg, the
     hole dia was quite a bit larger than my knot, so a beed was 
     not necessary. Actually now that I think about it, if you 
     broke down your setup everytime after you fished i'd bet
     it would never be a problem (because of limited casting).
                    
                                               Murph 
274.38August fishingMCIS2::JANOWSKICitizensAgainstContinentalDriftTue Jul 20 1993 16:5210
    I've noticed it's been quiet in here for a while. Would the egg
    sinker and shiner bait still be good for fishing now? I'll be going to
    Maine the beginning of August to fish some pretty big lakes. In the
    past we have been shut out. We usually use Daredevils or some kind of
    spinner bait but I think we have to get down deeper. I'm wondering if
    the way some of you fish in Wachusett with the shiner and egg sinker
    setup would be better for us.
    
    Thanks. 
    Paul
274.39Try thisMSBCS::MERCIERMon Jul 26 1993 15:0529
274.40 When In 1994MPGS::BICKESThu Mar 31 1994 09:108
    
                               When In 1994
    
     Does anybody know when Wachusett will open this year ? I see it is
          pretty ice in still, usually it opens on April 1, I have not
          seen it in the paper yet & I can not find the number to call
          but I did find out that the Res. is open till the end of
          Nov. starting this year...  WIZzard of SHR.
274.41MDC phone numbersSUBPAC::CRONINThu Mar 31 1994 11:247
    	Phone for MDC:
    			Wachusett & Sudbury Resevoirs
    			508-365-3272
    
    			Quabbin Resevoir
    			413-784-1249
    						B.C.
274.42Wachusett opens the 16th.CONSLT::MMURPHYWed Apr 13 1994 10:575
    
     Worcester paper says This Saturday April 16th. Yes I will be
     there. I know B.C. soccer, if not you know my # 
     
                                                       Murph
274.43I think I'll have to pass this time....SUBPAC::CRONINWed Apr 13 1994 11:527
    	Let's see...  5:00 AM on the 16th....  I should be a little south
    of Richmond, VA...  The night of the 16th I plan to be casting at the
    sunset beside a jetty about 15 miles south of Sarasota, Florida....
    
    	Soccer takes up all the -rest- of my Saturdays till mid June!
    
    						B.C.
274.44B.C. misses opening day at Wachusett..:^(CONSLT::MMURPHYWed Apr 13 1994 12:0514
    "The night of the 16th I plan to be casting at the
        sunset beside a jetty about 15 miles south of Sarasota,
    Florida...."
    
      Bummer,,, well I'll be thinking of you on the beautiful shores
    of Wachusett Res in West Boylston Ma. 
    
      "Soccer takes up all the -rest- of my Saturdays till mid June!"
     
       You mean I'll be fishing the Spring Tourney with my ole' pal
     Rich Neal ??   He's good !!  
    
                                          Well Brian TRY to have fun !
                                                        Me
274.45Quabbin?GNPIKE::GOGUENAh yes, it all seems so bloody easy...Fri Apr 15 1994 12:268

	I had heard that the Quabbin Res. was going to open for Shore
	fishing on saturday as well.  Can anyone confirm?


	-kg

274.46According to F+G. Boats on the 23rdJUPITR::BUTCHNo Shortcut Too ShortFri Apr 15 1994 12:433
    	Yup. Shore fishing only. 
    
    				Butch
274.47Quinepoxet RiverSTOWOA::DRUMThu May 19 1994 13:088
    Anyone familiar with the Quinepoxet River which runs through Holden and
    West Boylston and feeds the Wachusett Reservoir?  It looks like it
    could hold some fish of size.  I'm wondering what people have success
    with i.e., flies, lures, bait, etc.  
    
    
    
    Marshall
274.48worms workCPDW::PALUSESBob Paluses @MSOFri May 20 1994 17:007
    
    > Anyone familiar with the Quinepoxet River which runs through Holden
    
    
    I've had success with worms. Never caught anything big there myself.
    
    Bob
274.49Nice river...JUPITR::BUTCHNo Shortcut Too ShortMon May 23 1994 12:588
    	I've fished it quite a bit. Mostly caught them on worms and
    the old stand by, Mepps. Never tried flies. They stock it pretty 
    good with some decent fish. Most around 8-12". I have caught a 
    couple around 16", though. That river is loaded with small natives
    that melt in your mouth, also. 
    
    
    					Butch
274.50Wachusett recommendationsUSCTR1::HAMELINTue Aug 29 1995 16:4211
    Today's Worcester Telegram has an article stating the fishing of late
    to be pretty good. It mentioned several #6+ small mouths and a bunch of
    salmon have been caught recently. Last week it mentioned several good
    size lakers were taken. It recommended the stone church area (rt12 &
    140 ?).
    I've only fished Wachusett in the very early spring. Any
    recommendations on location or bait/ lures for this time of year ?
    Thought I'd give it a try this weekend.
    
    Thanks
    Bob
274.51DELNI::OTAWed Aug 30 1995 12:3315
    The intersting thing about the location of those salmon catches and the
    smallies is the technigue used to catch them.  I talked to a very
    knowledable old timer and he told me the way to do this is as follows:
    
    Go to the bridge there that seperates the resevoir from the river.  Get
    live bait suspend it 1-2 feet below the surface, use a large float and
    let the current from the river move the bait out away from shore to the
    deeper water you could not normally cast to.
    
    All that made lots of sense, but I hate fishing with live bait that you
    have to drop and wait so I never tried it.  Give it a whirl and see
    what happens.
    
    Brian
    
274.52otherways to get the bait out furtherTAMDNO::WHITMANthe 2nd Amendment assures the restWed Aug 30 1995 13:4721
<    live bait suspend it 1-2 feet below the surface, use a large float and
<    let the current from the river move the bait out away from shore to the
<    deeper water you could not normally cast to.
    
    My father-in-law one day watched this guy use an RC (radio controlled) boat
to carry his live bait out well beyond casting range at Wachusett. I don't
think it was legal but is was clever. 

    My father-in-law used a small stone attached to his line with a sugarcube
right down close to the shiner. He used a surf rod and the weight of the stone
to hurl that sucker way the hell out there. Once the sugarcube hit the water it
would dissolve and the rock would be free to drop to the bottom leaving the 
shiner swimming free and relatively un-injured by the cast.

    Down here in Florida some people use kites to do basically the same thing.
Attach your line and bait to a small kite. Then fly the kite out over the lake,
release the line from the kite (usually via a clothespin) and then reel in the
kite and fish. Haven't tried it myself, but what the heck all you'd need is a
slight wind to your back. 

Al 
274.53How 'bout training some racing pigeons?USCTR1::HAMELINWed Aug 30 1995 16:3817
    Thanks for the suggestions! Brian the technique you mentioned reminds
    me of the method we use for striper fishing on Martha's Vineyard. It
    works well in Menemsha and at Mink Meadows where the tidal change and
    jetties provide for this very very lazy  man's kind-of-fishing. Wish I 
    was there chasing bonita 8^) 
    Now about that radio controlled boat... I foresee a whole new sport for
    techies - outfit these boats like tuna boats but with remote control
    tackle. The object is to catch large pan fish via remote control and
    return your boat w/ catch to derby headquarters for weigh in and
    release. This would combine the fun of RC, with the fun of PC game
    fishing while testing the skills and talent of the operator. In theory,
    it seems better than racing pigeons!
    All-in-all, I think I'll stick to the basics.
    
    Hope you all have a great Labor-less Day weekend!
    
    -Bob
274.54Radio control ?GIAMEM::NSULLIVANThu Aug 31 1995 21:168
    
    
    	I saw a TV show a while back where people used radio control
    	boats to get near a "DAM" which had restrictions of distance
    	due to opening of sluces. Seemed a bit far fetched, but thats
    	where the "BIG" fish were located.
    
    
274.55DELNI::OTAFri Sep 01 1995 12:0414
    I have seen small battery operated propellar like things you tie to
    your line and then it powers the bait out where you want it to go, you
    tug on a seperate line and it drops the baited line off and you can
    pull back in the little boat like thing.  they hit spags a few years
    back then I haven't seen them since.  I'll bet you could probably make
    one easy enough with one of those model ship type motors, not the
    expensive radio units but the type that goes in platic toy boats.  If
    you think about it all you need is a battery operated propeller on a
    small float with a rudder to send it straight out.  Some kind of a
    quick release catch that is attached to another fishing line.  When
    your little float gets there you yank the line and the lure drops back
    and you can bring it back to shore.
    
    
274.56Hate to burst anyones bubble, but...SUBPAC::CRONINFri Sep 01 1995 12:4422
	   The RC boat question has been asked before and the answer is

			"No boats of any kind"

	   Does it make sense?  No, not in my opinion.  They don't care
	about making sense.  They'll ticket you for walking in the water
	with waders on, but they ignore all the folks picnicing and feeding
	the geese near the stone church...  They have to walk past the sign
	that says No Anything But Fishing Or Walking Allowed...  That's not
	really what it says, but the list of prohibited actions doesn't leave
	anything else!  Selective enforcement...

	   Just learn the reservoir, and expect to do some walking.  There
	are places where you can cast into almost 100ft. of water, and there
	are the usual places that concentrate fish. River mouths, points,
	bridges in causeways...  Why do you think they're catching fish near
	the Stone Church?  The church sits on a point adjacent to a bridge
	under the causeway.  This is the old Quinapoxet(sp?) and Stillwater
	River channel!
					My 2 cents worth,
					      B.C.
274.57spoil-sportTAMDNO::WHITMANthe 2nd Amendment assures the restFri Sep 01 1995 12:5112
<                   -< Hate to burst anyones bubble, but... >-

BC  you got no sense of humor at all!!!!

	This fantasy could have gone on for at least another week;-);-)

HOWEVER, just because the MDC frowns on it a Wachusett doesn't mean you can't
use these tricks in other places where the cops have a better disposition.

Al


274.58Absolutly right Al!SUBPAC::CRONINFri Sep 01 1995 13:496
	   Should I have waited till Ota got arrested???

	By the way, there are 4 causeways with bridges, plus the Quinni
	bridge...  

					B.C.
274.59NETCAD::BIROFri Sep 01 1995 14:3014
    How far do you need to cast? Can you use the reverse cast that I see
    being used on the beachs. What they seem to be doing is casting in the 
    wrong direction (180 deg) then when the line is about 50% out turning
    around and fliping back in the right directions. The cast seems to go
    2 to 3x the distance of a normal cast for the same weight.  I always
    wanted to try it but never seem to be in an area where room enought
    behind. It looked like  they were waiting untill the line
    reach a certain height before turning around and fiping it back..
    
    Not reponsible for hooking guards etc...:)
    
                           
    
    
274.60DELNI::OTAFri Sep 01 1995 20:0114
    John
    
    If you whip live bait you will find the hook and sinker going one way
    and your shiner about a mile further.
    
    B.C.
    
    Fishing Wachusetts is always fun especially in the wee hours of the
    morning.  I have waded hip deep in freezing mornings to cast the bait
    out there to watch the fish jumping about 5 yards beyond my illegal
    cast.
    
    Oats
    
274.61A few mumblings...SUBPAC::CRONINTue Sep 05 1995 11:5121
	   Use a long (7-10ft.) soft rod.  Not -too- soft, you want to 
	be able to cast at least 1oz.  Use a reel that will hold at least 
	200yds. of 8lb. test.  Light line so you can cast it further and
	plenty of it cause the Lakers in there get pretty big!

	   Going in waist deep...  Hmmm...  That would be about 1-2 steps
	in most of the areas people fish for Trout.  Personally, I'll
	settle for my cast being 6ft. shorter thankyou!  In fact, in some
	of the spots one step will put you down a cliff and into 30ft. of
	water!

	   Here's a couple places.  The Stone Church (really), the other
	side (not end) of the causeway under the power lines and the next
	shoreline after the cove, the cemetery off Rt. 110 (long walk),
	Rt. 140 across from the old landfill (another long walk), Rt. 70
	the gate just N of the high school, Rt. 70 Main St. Circle (very
	hilly and lots of ledge both above and below water), behind the
	W Boylston Fire Station.   That ought to keep you guys busy for
	a few years.
					B.C.
274.62DELNI::OTATue Sep 05 1995 14:1610
    Tee hee hee B.C.
    
    You don't know my secret place to fish do you, always catch some nice
    trout there and yes you can wade waist deep by stepping 5-10 feet from
    shore, however right now with this drought I'll bet you can  move
    10-15 feet from shore.  I agree though, most of the trout spots drop
    right off, a few feet from shore.
    
    Oats
    
274.63Oh, but of course Mr. Ota...SUBPAC::CRONINTue Sep 05 1995 14:4114
	   You think I gave you everything I know about Wachusett???

	My, my, you -do- make me laugh!  All I gave was a quick rundown
	of -some- of the most popular spots.  No, I don't claim to know 
	everything about the place, but over the years I've walked the
	-whole- shoreline, so I know a little bit about it...  I've
	fished there since back when you needed a permit...  And that's
	the 25 CENT permit, not the $1 one!  It's only a 20 minute bicycle
	ride from where I grew up!

	   Secret spots on Wachusett!!  I love it!!!

						B.C.
274.64Hi BCLUDWIG::BINGTue Sep 05 1995 16:335
    
    A 25 cent permit? Boy are you OLD! 8')
    
    
    Walt
274.65DELNI::OTATue Sep 05 1995 17:2414
    Walt
    
    Are you kidding me, BC was one of those guys who used the double
    handled saw to cut the timber down to help build the damn that created
    the resevoir in the first place.  I understand from the Legend that BC
    walked the woodland before they flooded it so he would understand where
    the dropoffs and structure would be once the resevoir filled.
    
    Old ain't applicable to BC.  Ancient or relic comes more readily to
    mind 8^)
    
    Oats
    
    
274.66MRBASS::PUISHYSProject Leader Scheduler V3.0 for Digital UNIXTue Sep 05 1995 17:501
Before Christ sounds right :&)
274.67I hear he still owe's Mose's 5 bucksLUDWIG::BINGTue Sep 05 1995 19:126
    
    Oats, thanks for clearing that up for me. I knew he was old but
    not THAT old.
    
    
    Walt
274.68That was Piasters Bing!SUBPAC::CRONINTue Sep 05 1995 19:254
	   Egypt didn't use bucks...  And I already paid him!

						B.C.
274.69study the picturesTAMDNO::WHITMANthe 2nd Amendment assures the restTue Sep 05 1995 20:2718
<    the resevoir in the first place.  I understand from the Legend that BC
<    walked the woodland before they flooded it so he would understand where
<    the dropoffs and structure would be once the resevoir filled.
    
    I don't know about that, but I'll bet he's been into the Deacon's Bench
in Oakdale more than once and studied the old pictures of the construction...

    Being a student at the Tahanto High School back in the mid-60's, we used
to run Cross Country out through the watershed and across the reservoir's
shoreline.  We even had one guy who packed his SCUBA gear back there one
afternoon.  Any idea how good that cool water feels after you've been running
through the woods for 30 minutes???  I get refreshed just thinking about it.

    "Sorry coach, I was just running along the shoreline like everyone else, but
I slipped...honest coach I didn't mean to fall in the water, and I don't swim
very well so it took me about 10 minutes to dog-paddle my way back to shore";-)

Al
274.70The Best Season of All!!!MSBCS::MERCIERTue Oct 17 1995 15:2315
274.71OPEN for '96!USCTR1::HAMELINWed Apr 03 1996 16:413
    Wachusett opened yesterday... This morning's Worc. T&G reported good
    fishing with "many" browns in the 2-4# range caught. Live shiners and
    kastmasters were among the most productive baits. Maybe Saturday.....!
274.72Nice catch!!USCTR1::HAMELINThu May 01 1997 16:493
    Tuesdays Worc. T&G reported a 20# laker was taken from shore last
    weekend and many salmon in the 4# range. Anyone tried Wachusett lately?