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| 418.1 | Oomble? | NUBOAT::HEBERT | Captain Bligh | Tue Jan 03 1995 18:20 | 6 |
| I wonder if the Oomble is like the New England sauger?
$120 for a fishing license sounds like a commercial operation, rather
than a gamefishing permit.
Art
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| 418.2 | Maybe tomorrow... | OFOSS1::JOHNHC | | Tue Jan 03 1995 19:10 | 5 |
| Sounds more like a New England Togue to me. I have a poster of European
freshwater gamefish on the door to our basement at home. I'll try to
remember to look at it tonight.
John H-C
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| 418.3 | | NUBOAT::HEBERT | Captain Bligh | Wed Jan 04 1995 11:30 | 6 |
| Damn. Togue is what I was thinking of, but I couldn't recall the name.
They're sort of like lake trout.
John, does your wall chart show Oomble?
Art
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| 418.4 | togue = lake trout? | RANGER::MACINTYRE | Terminal Angler | Wed Jan 04 1995 11:50 | 6 |
| I thought tougue was just a another name for lake trout?
Had me surprized for a moment, didn't think we had any sauger
in new england... hardly any walleye....
-donmac
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| 418.5 | Ayuh! Lake Trout = Togue. | OFOSS1::JOHNHC | | Wed Jan 04 1995 12:24 | 19 |
| Well, I went to bed as soon as I got home last evening, so I didn't get
a look at the wall chart.
Yes, Togue and Lake Trout are the same creature. It's Togue if you're
from Maine, and Lake Trout if you're from New Hamsphire. <g>
Don Mac --
I believe there are sauger in Lake Champlain, which I think qualifies
as New England. Seems to me I've seen sauger mentioned in the NH F&G
book, _Freshwater Fishes of New Hampshire_, which would indicate that
they have been placed in at least one lake or pond in NH. (The rock
bass, another fish common to upstate New York, the St. Lawrence River,
and western Vermont, is present in two bodies of water in NH, and
nobody knows who put them there. All of which is to say that somebody
could very easily have moved a few saugers from the St. Lawrence into a
lake or pond in NH.
John H-C
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| 418.6 | | BUOVAX::SURRETTE | | Wed Jan 04 1995 12:45 | 10 |
| John,
I thought Rock Bass were pretty common throughout many of
waterways of NH, particularly in the river systems.
I always thought that most panfish were present in the
majority of water systems, regardless of locale.
Gusman
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| 418.7 | Ok, so this should have been in 22.* | OFOSS1::JOHNHC | | Wed Jan 04 1995 12:58 | 11 |
| Well, I've never seen a rock bass in NH yet, but then I haven't hit
either of the bodies of water reputed to have them. The book could be
out of date, though, and they could have been transported to lots of
other places by now.
FWIW, there *are* real differences among "panfish," and they are
regional, at least in origin. It's still very rare to see a bluegill in
Lake Winnipesaukee, for example. In fact, I saw my first one there just
a couple years ago.
John H-C
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| 418.8 | Haven't seen too many rock bass in NH | RANGER::MACINTYRE | Terminal Angler | Wed Jan 04 1995 15:48 | 4 |
| Moore Resevoir, Conn. River, is loaded with Rock Bass. Don't recall
seeing others in NH. Champlain has them.
-donmac
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| 418.9 | Rockies | LANDO::HOFFMAN | | Wed Jan 04 1995 18:38 | 7 |
| There are plenty of rockies in Gilmore Pond in Jaffrey and in
Deering Reservoir (Francestown?). Both lakes also have great smallmouth
bass fishing. The two species like the rocks, but the rock bass are
usually only a stone's throw from shore.
Dave
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| 418.10 | | XCUSME::TOMAS | I hate stiff water | Wed Jan 04 1995 19:52 | 6 |
|
OK. I give. What are "rock bass"? I've caught so-called "googlie-eyes"
in the Merrimack R. in Concord. Is this the same fish? Kinda shaped like a
big sunfish with big bulging red eyes.
-HSJ-
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| 418.11 | Just another sunfish, like a smallmouth bass | OFOSS1::JOHNHC | | Wed Jan 04 1995 20:24 | 16 |
| No rock bass in the Merrimack River, as far as I know. They're usually
real easy to see if they're in the water, because they act like bass
and just can't seem to leave divers alone.
Might there be white crappie in the Merrimack? I'm sure there are black
crappie (aka "calico bass") which might also match .10's description.
The best description I can think of for how to recognize a rock bass is
that it has the body of a crappie and the head of a smallmouth bass,
including the red eyes. Actually, when they get to be as big as the
ones I saw in huge numbers among the rocks of Lake George and of the
St. Lawrence River, they don't look much like anything but stunted
smallmouth bass who just never got to be as long as the size of their
heads would suggest they ought to be.
John H-C
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| 418.12 | Omble Chevalier photos anyone? | GVPROD::MEYER | Nick, DTN 7-821-4172 | Thu Jan 05 1995 09:01 | 11 |
|
If anyone is interested, I can send them a leaflet concerning Lake
fishing where you will be able to see on the coloured photos what
Omble look like. It looks like a trout, tends to have silver coloured
tum & dark green back. Does not fight like a trout, as it is somewhat
stunned at being dragged up from great dephts. Omble-Chevalier is one
of our tastiest local delicacies, as are with Perch filets, cooked in
fresh cream, or in the Provencale manner with tomatoes, herbs & garlic...
Another great tasting fish of ours is Fera, but these can only be
caught by professional fishermen with nets, as it lives deep down &
it has a tiny mouth. Fera is also cooked in fresh cream and is yummy.
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| 418.13 | Does it have a deeply forked tail & speckles? | OFOSS1::JOHNHC | | Thu Jan 05 1995 14:49 | 6 |
| Howzabout you scan it in and save it in .bmp format? Then put it up on
the net where we can grab it.
Whaddyasay?
John H-C
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| 418.14 | Charr | WEST07::MOXLEY | The Wild Heart | Fri Jan 06 1995 14:21 | 5 |
| Right, I know what it is... Ombre Chevalier - it's a Charr. Deep water
relative or the trout family, never caught one... I'll get the Latin
name when I get back home, and post it here.
Simon
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| 418.15 | eh ? | MASALA::DWALLACE | Digirola | Sun Jan 08 1995 19:31 | 5 |
| Just to ad another twist - I caught a char here in Bonnie Scotland once
& they are very rare here. Only thing is they look nothing like a
trout, more like a perch if i remember correctly. It WAS 12 years ago.
Davie.
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| 418.16 | It's in the books... | SUBPAC::CRONIN | | Mon Jan 09 1995 11:10 | 8 |
|
Omble Chevalier is listed as the French name for a landlocked
strain of Arctic Char. Sorry I didn't take the time for the latin name,
the first was whatever the chars usually are and the second was Alpinus(?).
If you need more info on it please let me know.
B.C.
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| 418.17 | | WAHOO::LEVESQUE | get on with it, baby | Mon Jan 09 1995 11:39 | 1 |
| salvelinus alpinus
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| 418.18 | Yep, that's it.. | WEST07::MOXLEY | The Wild Heart | Mon Jan 09 1995 12:33 | 3 |
| Beat me to it...
That's the one, nice eating by all accounts :-)
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| 418.19 | Golden Trout | NITMOI::WOOD | | Mon Jan 09 1995 18:06 | 5 |
| Isn't that the same fish that was resolved as being the Sunapee
or Golden Trout?
Marty (who's off to find the Sunapee note!)
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| 418.20 | Golden trout aren't char | RANGER::BAZ | Tom Bazarnick | Tue Jan 10 1995 20:39 | 1 |
| Golden trout are true trout - Salmo Aguabonita I think
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| 418.21 | from "Freshwater Fishes of NH" | RANGER::MACINTYRE | Terminal Angler | Tue Jan 10 1995 23:37 | 4 |
| Sunapee Trout is Salvelinus aureolus, aureolus means golden. According
to "Freshwater Fishes of NH" other common names are Golden Trout and
White Trout. Some taxonomists consider this a subspecies of the Artc
char, Salvelinus alpinus.
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| 418.22 | | WMOIS::REEVE_C | | Wed Jan 11 1995 12:49 | 4 |
| I thought Salmo Salar was the only member of the Salmo family native to
North America.
Chris
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| 418.23 | Other way around | RANGER::BAZ | Tom Bazarnick | Wed Jan 11 1995 21:33 | 4 |
| The brown trout (salmo trutta?) is the only member of the salmo family
common in North America that is not native. It's from Europe.
Tom
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| 418.24 | We are in the black AND.... | GVA02::MEYER | | Wed Jan 18 1995 15:58 | 17 |
| After a small hicup, having to go out & buy a replacement impeller for
my inboard diesel's water pump, I set off with my sail boat covered
with ice & dressed up with many layers of clothing & a floatation jacket
oil skins & fur hat.
I fished from 12 noon till 4pm with not one bite in atrocious weather,
buckets of horizontal rain & 3 degrees C or thereabouts. I was folding
up for the day just when there was a strong pull on my line & had
caught a big magnificent trout, by my standards, 45cms long & approx
2.5lbs.
A great start to the new season & looking forward to an excellent
dinner this evening
:o))))))=
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