Conference vmszoo::rc

    Got a new member for the CRRC club over the weekend. He does not
    fly (at least yet), but he does possess a rather invaluable skill
    that he has offered to provide for us at a very reasonable cost.
    
    While at crow island on Sunday, that was really packed all day (
    three people) Chris Shuck (sp?) was helping a new flier with his
    PT40. Suddenly the plane was going right, Chris grabbed the
    transmitter from the student and attempted to gain control of
    the plane assuming pilot error. Did'nt work, and the plane landed
    in a nice tree about 50 feet up or so with the engine still running.
    The good part is that the plane landed in a tree, and not in the
    drink (lot'sa water around Crow Island). We could see the plane
    in the tree and could also see that the rudder did not work. One
    of those plastic clevisis worked loose and sprung open. As we 
    thought about how to get the plane down, (shake tree, throw rocks,
    cut down tree), Chris said that he knew a tree climber in Sudbury.
    For $50 this guy will safly bring your plane back to the ground.
    He climbed the tree, put a rope on the plane, and lowered the plane
    safly to the ground. It took about 45 to 60 minutes for the entire
    operation. Doug got his PT40 back with tree damage only that's
    easily repairable.
    
    The tree climber, Ross is his name I believe, has offered his services
    to us. He even joked that perhaps he would hang around on weekends
    look'in for a few extra bucks. He'd even offer pilots advice when
    they were flying over trees. (LOWER,LOWER)
    
    
    						Dave
    
    

    This topic is now dedicated to FOR_SALE activity including purchase
    replies and WANTED notices.  The aging policy will be similar to
    that of the REAL_ESTATE conference: offers will be presumed to have
    been sold after a month from the posting date, and all pertinent
    exchanges will be deleted automatically --- if an item is still
    not sold, it should be posted again.  I suggest that responses refer
    explicitly to the associated offering note; otherwise they may
    erroneously be presumed to be associated with another.
    
    This policy has no provision for history, for what was offered at
    what price.  Some people might care.  Suggestions are requested.
    Should we use the RC_SWAP file as an archive?  A similar question
    applies to auction reports.

RE: .63, GOODWN::BURHANS

I tried to send mail directly, but your node is unknown by my system.

I build model engines for a hobby- mostly steam, but currently near 80% complete
on a single cylinder gas engine. If you dont turn up a spare part, maybe I
could make some parts for you- if the engine is shot anyway, we couldnt loose 
much by trying.

In fact, if others in the grater Maynard area need small model parts machined
Im willing to try, subject to time and ability. I have a reasonably complete
machine shop at home. I have the plans (from a 1913 MODEL ENGINEER magazine)
for a steam powered model airplane- anyone interested in a joint project?

ron ginger
WODBOT::GINGER

                       PC software for wing design

                             ************
                             * FOR SALE *
                             ************

 Features:

 - Calculates the relative thickness and its position.
              the relative curvature and its position.
 - Recalculates airfoil for any user entered thickness and curvature.
 - Calculates new curvature and curvature position with flaps.
 - Plots the Curvature/Flap angle relationship curve.
 - Supports foils data entry in any format (Xi, Yi  Xe, Ye or X, Yi, Ye).
 - Prints the foils: - With any chord length from one inch up to 10 feet.
                     - With any curvature and/or relative thickness.
                     - Draws chord line and mid line on request.
                     - Draws the foil with cofferings removed on request.
                     - Prints all the ribs for a given wing geometry.
 - Calculates the wing tip elevation for a given dihedral angle.
              the maximum lift for a particular airfoil.
              the zero lift angle (Alpha0) for a particular airfoil.
              the size of spars for a given load factor and wingspan.

 - Menu driven English
               French
               Duch
               German

 - EGA and VGA supported
 - HERCULES support in developpement.
 - Dot matrix printer supported: IBM proprinter protocol
                               : HP InkJet and laser also supported
                               : DEC protocol
                               
 - Ability to setup the printer for any graphic aspect ratio.
 - DOC file included.

Updates:
 - If new features are implemented, I'll send you a new copy of the software
   free of charge.
 - Written by a modelist for modelists and sold at a modelist price.

                         ++++++++++++++++++++++
                         +  ONLY $ 30 wanted  +
                         +                    +
                         +  DEMO version FREE +
                         ++++++++++++++++++++++

How to get it:

  Mail me your private address along with $ 30 in bank notes, specify the
diskette format (3 1/2" or 5 1/4") and I send you back the software. If you
give me your address only, I send you a demo version.

 Mail your order to my private address or at my DECmail address.


                                 Philippe       CLEMENT
                                 Avenue des Acacias 126
                                 B-5101          ERPENT

                                 Belgium         Europe

More infos?  DEC mail BRSRHM::CLEMENT

Gremlin Kits are coming!

As many of you are aware, the Combat Gremlin is now manufactured and 
sold by:

Radio Control Technologies
204 Cascade Drive
Glen Carbon, IL 62034

Business Phone: 618-288-2020
Home Phone: 618-288-1804

Materials orders with various suppliers are being completed and the kits
should begin to ship around the middle of December.  You can call the bus. 
phone and leave a message if you want to reserve a kit now.  We already have
a waiting list with a few people on it.  Note: the bus. line just answers in
voicemail mode right now, but it will soon be an automated "computer" info
and order line for those who want to charge it.  The kit will be advertised
in various RC publications beginning with RC Report.

The kit is comprehensive in nature (all wood, screws, nuts, etc...).

Kit Price is $39.95, wing kits - $19.95, fuselages - $9.95, and a combat
pit cradle will be offered for $15.95.  S&H will probably be around $3.95.

I will post another note when kits are ready for shipment.

Chris Spohr  dtn 445-6577 

    C'mon guys. I know that many of you are AMA members. Please check in a
    recent (maybe last months?) issue of Model Aviation and let me know
    what the colors the kites in the article are.
    
    Thanks...
    
    	Marty Sasaki

    
Hi Marty,

	There was a one page write up in the March issue of Model Aviation
at the end of the slop soaring article. The story was written by Sal Lasilli.
The two kites shown were flown by Melinda and Corinne Lasilli. The kites they
showed were an 8 1/2 foot Stinger Delta and a Team High Fly delta. From the
outside toward the center the color of the Stinger was Hot Pink/lite blue/
black/hot pink. The High Fly was black/purple/white/yellow. The pictures were
taken at Robert Morse State Park in Long Island New York.

Steve

    I'm in the market for an airbrush and compressor.  My main interest is
    in the Paasche airbrush designated model H.  The compressor I'm looking
    for would be something like Sears sells, not the small types advertised
    in the Tower cotalog.
    
    Anyone wanting to sell one or both of these please send me mail at
    SELL3::marrone or Joe Marrone @MKO.  Or call at DTN 264-5236.
    
    Thanks,
    Joe

I need 2 or 3 old radios.

  proportional only
  any frequency, even old outdated frequencies
  AM ok
  2 or more channels
  don't need nicads
  don't need servos
  don't need clean sticks, straight antennas, etc.

I will remove the tx/rx boards from the radios. I am running trains indoors
with greatly reduced power (~500 mW) and short flexible antennas.  

I'd like to spend $15 to $35 per tx/rx pair. Old crashed Cox/Airtronics are
what I have in mind, though 4 channels are also desirable.

Ralph James
shalot::james
dtn 393-7392

    
    
    Wanted,
    
    		I am looking for a two meter or standard class wing.
    In good shape.  Poly or aileron versions.  PLug-in or one piece.
    A few club flyers are toying with a club closed sailplane event at our
    sod farm and I can see muself throwing a fuse together but haven't the
    time to build the wings.
    
    Tom
    
    P.S. Thank's in advance

    I ended up buying the Paasche model H airbrush new, but I'm still in
    the market for a compressor.  Sears has one in the $200 range that
    seems like a good overall unit.  
    
    Anyone wanting to sell a compressor please send me mail at
    SELL3::MARRONE or Joe Marrone @MKO.   My DTN is 264-5236.
    
    Thanks,
    Joe

    
    
    Wanted: A .40 to .50 engine. Please be reasonable.
    
    CSSREG::Spiller
    
    264-3497
    
    Work: Merrimack
    
    Home: Raymond, N. H.
    
    Jim
    
    
    
    

    goldberg cub is sold (note 6.454)
    

    
    1 Dumas deep V 60 boat w/ .67 K&B marine engine
      tuned pipe
      Futaba 3 channel magnum proportional control # FP-3PG
    
    1 Dumas Atlas Van Lines U-1 w/ .67 OPS marine engine
      tuned pipe
      Futaba 2 channel magnum junior FP-2PBKA
    
    1 magnum high torque engine starter
    
      Battery chargers, batteries, fuel pump, 1 gal 25% fuel,
      glow plugs, extra props, tool kit, lots of parts
    
      over $1400 invested   make reasonable offer
    
    
    

			Bargains Bargains Bargains
			--------------------------

Original prices are in (), Asking in [].
For hot new stuff I took ()*.75.
For good (or new and not so hot stuff) []*.66
For planes I used what they are worth to me.
Some of my orignal prices are guesses if you convince me the new
mail-order going price is less they I'll recalc tha asking figure.
Reason for selling, no time, no money. The Acton Asses have first dibs.
Local MA/NH have second dibs. U.S. has 3rd dibs. Over seas has last Dibs.
If I find only a few folks want a few things I reserve the right to
bail out and NOT sell ANYTHING. In other words I don't want to
sell all my servos be stuck with $800 worth of planes and radios I can't
fly :-). Prices are pretty damn cheap.

Planes:

Graupner (KIT) ASW22E ($249.00) [164.00]
Spirit With Spoilers, 2 piece wing. (34.99) [$25.00]
Spectra with New Uncovered 1 piece wing (57.99) [$30.00]
UHU damaged wing mount area and leading edge dent in wing ($100.00) [$20.00]
Olympic-II is nice shape. ($49.00) [$30.00]
Electro-streak ($52.00) [$15.00]
Mirrage, needs motor mount area rebuilt ($54.99) [$20.00]

Radios:

JR X-347 FM 4 standard servos (Used half a dozen times) ($349) [$261.00]
JR MAX-4 FM no servos (Used once) ($139.00 w/servos) [$70.00]

Motors:

Cobalt 05 non-geared been running fine but needs armature ($70.00) [$23.00]
Cobalt 15 geared brand NEW not used (for ASW) ($104.00) [$78.00]
Cobalt 05 geared in very good shape ($99.00) [$66.00]

Battery stuff:

4 7-cell 800mah (some binned to 1000mah) packs with sermos ($40.00 ea) [$20.00]
Digipace I Battery cycler (99.00) [$75.00]
ASTRO-Flight timer charger variable current. (41.99) [$28.00]
ASTRO-Flight peak charger almost brand new (64.99) [$49.00]

Servos:

4 S133 servo's ($30.00 ea) [$20.00]

Controls:

Graupner POWERswitch 20 ($40.00) [$30.00]
Jomar speed control ($80.00) [$40.00]

Misc:
Covering, tools etc. [ask]

Total ($2021.00) Eeeeck, no wonder the wife is so grumpy [$1184.00]

    
Planes:

Graupner (KIT) ASW22 B270 ($279.00) [184.00]
Note the model name (I had ASW22E) and price was wrong here. But I
will sell it at 66% of the best price you can get it for. It has 105"
wing span and 679 sq in wing area. The wings are already Balsa sheeted
foam (from factory).  I had spent one night working on it. I sanded
the tail sufaces, glued in the nut for the horiz. stab and glued in
the nuts for the wing joiner.  That's it. According to Hobby lobby
this plane likes to stay up and is a big seller.

Mirrage, needs motor mount area rebuilt ($54.99) [$20.00]
Include floats for water take offs and flys quetly off the
water. With proper equipment (s133s,7-800mah,power switch-20,cobalt),
no those are not included.

Radios:

JR MAX-4 FM no servos (Used once) ($139.00 w/servos) [$70.00]
There are no servos include the price is with servos for reference.
I figure $139.00-$40.00 (value of 4 servos)=$100.00*.70=$70.00.
Pretty cheap for a brand new JR FM radio.

Motors:

Cobalt 05 non-geared been running fine but needs arm ($70.00) [$20.00] swaney
Accord to what I've heard astro flight will refurbish any motor at a max
price of %50 of it's value. So you could send the motor in and get one
back like new for around $35.00. But it does run and I've been using it.
It's just more sensitive to another "head on" :-).

Battery stuff:

Digipace I Battery cycler (99.00) [$66.00] (Reduced !!!)
ASTRO-Flight timer charger variable current. (41.99) [$28.00]
ASTRO-Flight peak charger almost brand new (64.99) [$49.00]
This is a great charger. Holds current rock solid, has never false
tripped and is only a few months old.

Controls:

Graupner POWERswitch 20 ($40.00) [$30.00]
Best $40.00 I ever spent. No receiver battery needed, runs off
motor battery. And shuts down automatically and never failed.
Most gliders don't need variable speed which is less efficient
and cost battery weight. Also has motor break to get prop snap
into fold back.

				JR Radio's for Sale
				*******************

		The following radio's are being sold TX and charger
		ONLY.

				  JR MAX6 COMPUTER
				  ****************

		Channel 28. Has PPM/PCM modes. Dual rates elevator and
		aileron, exponential, servo reverse all channels, sub
		trims, end point adjustments, landing system, elevator/flap
		mix, battery fail safe, programable fail safe, and 1 free
		mix that allows you to mix any channel to any other channel.

		All adjustments are programable and most are "in flight"
		adjustable. Landing system activates flaps (amount of 
		deflection is programable) and automatically feeds in
		elevator compensation which is also programable. Elevator/
		flap mix works the flaps in conjunction with the elevator
		for enhanced aerobatics. The Max 6 Computer is also a good
		glider radio if your glider has a basic flap or spoiler
		set up. It basically does everything the X347 will do except
		that it is 6 channels instead of 7, and only has 1 free mix
		and 1 plane memory.

		This radio is brand new and has never been used. Complete
		Max 6 Computer price is $280.

		I am asking $150 for the TX and charger.


                    
			   JR Max 6 FM TX and Charger only
			   *******************************

		This TX is on Channel 27 and is an excellent radio in and
		of itself, but is also a great buddy box radio as it has
		the trainer system.

		The radio has dual rates on elevator and ailerons which is
		also "inflight adjustable", servo reverse on all channels,
		3 position flap switch (for you glider guiders), trainer
		switch and retract switch. This radio is also brand new
		and has only been used 3 or 4 times. Complete Max 6 FM
		system is $180.

		Asking $100 for the TX and Charger.

		Both TX's include the nicads.

		Steve Smith......DTN..225-4395.....SNAX::SMITH

		

    
    
                C.G. Anniversary Issue Cub, Floats, Engine, and Radio.
    ***********************************************************************
    
    C.G. Cub Yellow
    
    .61 K+B with Perry Carb. Runs Exellent
    
    C.G. Floats Aluminum coat
    
    Aristocraft 7ch: servo rev, dual rates, Aileron and rudder mix,
    batteries less than a year old. 4 servos all mounted.
    
    Can be flown on land or water.
    
    
    Asking price $300.
    
    Call dtn 271-3952
    or send mail to: dneast::Malcolm_Bruc 

For sale:

Kalt Baron 50 custom helicopter
blackhead II rotor head
TSK tail rotor gear box
OS Max 61 Heli engine
new Futaba BB 53 gyro
JR Centry 7 FM Heli  radio w 5/ 501 servos 72.870 mHz 
(1200 or 1300 mah rx battery)
2 used/worn sets of main rotor blades
2 brand new sets of main rotor blades (yale brand)
2 extra brand new sets of tail rotor
2 extra main gears
fibreglass canopy
"unbreakable" landing skids
Extra muffler
other extra parts

$550 / BO

Is in Utah now but will soon be in MA

ITHIL::CHAD or MIDI::CHAD

    For Sale:
    
    			       *(JRX-PRO package)*
    
    
    JRX_PRO	very well maintained 
    Novak 610 ESC high Freq w/ reverse
    Airtronics XLP2 w/ 2 -102 servos
    Protech 702 ac/dc charger
    Stock Motor
    4 1200 SC 6 cell packs (w sermo's)
    toolbox w/ springs, lube  , 2-3 pinions etc.
    
    $250.00 or best offer
    
    Rob at FHO DTN 471-5751

	I am looking for someone who is interested to get an X-347
	TX RF module and receiver in (probably) early October. You
	can decide whether you want PPM or PCM and which channel.
	The cahnnel should be useable in central Massachusetts (no
	TV/pager interference problems).

	Reason: I will be relocating to Shrewsbury MA for a 10 to
	12 weeks timeframe starting mid-July. I plan to bring some 
	planes and am considering to buy an X-347 radio. Since it's 
	not even allowed to OWN a 72/75 MHz system here in Germany,
	I would like to leave the module and receiver with someone
	in the US when I'm leaving again and get me 35 MHz parts here.

	If you're interested, please notify me by E-mail and tell
	me what you'd be willing to pay for a slightly used module/
	receiver pack.

	Best regards,
                       Hartmut

I've lowered the price on almost everything that's left.

Current price = ()
Asking price = [] reasonable offers also considered

Planes:

Mirrage, needs motor mount area rebuilt ($54.99) [$20.00]
Includes floats for water take offs and flys quetly off the
water. With proper equipment (s133s,7-800mah,power switch-20,cobalt),
no, those are not included. It is a trainer style plane with airelons
added (which can easily be removed again). Wing has never been damaged.

Radios:

JR MAX-4 FM no servos (Used once) ($139.00 w/servos) [$60.00]
There are no servos included the price is with servos for reference.
I figure $139.00-$40.00 (value of 4 servos)=$100.00*.60=$60.00.
Pretty cheap for a brand new JR FM radio.

Motors:

Cobalt 05 non-geared been running fine but needs arm ($70.00) [$20.00]
According to what I've heard astro flight will refurbish any motor at a max
price of %50 of it's value. So you could send the motor in and get one
back like new for around $35.00. But it does run and I've been using it.
It's just more sensitive to another "head on" :-).

Battery stuff:

Digipace I Battery cycler (99.00) [$50.00] (Reduced !!!)
ASTRO-Flight timer charger variable current. (41.99) [$21.00]

Controls:

Graupner POWERswitch 20 ($40.00) [$20.00]
Best $40.00 I ever spent. No receiver battery needed, runs off
motor battery. And shuts down automatically and never failed.
Most gliders don't need variable speed which is less efficient
and cost battery weight. Also has motor break to get prop snap
into fold back.

Jomar SC-1 speed control ($80.00) [$30.00]
Will handle large motors like Cobalt 040.
Pulses motor when battery is running lower to signal you to land.

dtn 226-7162
email itrc::mills

If anyone has any training skids suitable for a Concept 30 SX they no
longer want either phone on 781 2776 or mail back::haycox.

Thanks Ian.

    HELP!!!

    I went for a few Gremlin flights last night (to warm up for the NATS
    demo tomorrow) and I seem to have destroyed my OS .25 FP 'cause I
    put the starter on it when it had hydro-lock.  :-(

    It will barely turn over with the glow plug and the backplate
    removed!  (I think I twisted or otherwise mangled the crankshaft.)

    Do you know of anyone that has an OS .25 FP and would be willing to
    loan it to me?  (I'd promise to repair or replace it in the event of
    a "mishap".)

    NOTE: The contest is tomorrow so shipping it to me would not help -
    I need one in the central Mass. (USA) area. 

                                    - Dan the dummy.

I've lowered the price on almost everything that's left.

Current price = ()
Asking price = [] reasonable offers also considered

Planes:

Mirrage, needs motor mount area rebuilt ($54.99) [$10.00]
Includes floats for water take offs and flys quetly off the
water. With proper equipment (s133s,7-800mah,power switch-20,cobalt),
no, those are not included. It is a trainer style plane with airelons
added (which can easily be removed again). Wing has never been damaged.

Motors:

Cobalt 05 non-geared been running fine but needs arm ($70.00) [$10.00]
According to what I've heard astro flight will refurbish any motor at a max
price of %50 of it's value. So you could send the motor in and get one
back like new for around $35.00. But it does run and I've been using it.
It's just more sensitive to another "head on" :-).

Battery stuff:

Digipace I Battery cycler (99.00) [$35.00] (Reduced !!!)
ASTRO-Flight timer charger variable current. (41.99) [$15.00]

Controls:

Jomar SC-1 speed control ($80.00) [$20.00]
Will handle large motors like Cobalt 040.
Pulses motor when battery is running lower to signal you to land.

dtn 226-7162
email itrc::mills

    
    
    Looking for a recent copy of K-Factor magazine. If anyone has one
    that's less than a year old they don't mind parting with, I'd sure
    appreciate it. 
    
    My mail stop is MLO8-4/U50
    
    Dan Snow
    

    Wanted: extra copy of NE Sailplanes 1992 catalog..
    
    I want to toss a copy into the package I am sending to my buddy in Oz. 
    I should have picked up a free one at the Nats, but didn't think about
    it.
    
    If you have an extra copy, could you send me one??
    
    Thanks,
    jeff
    MKO1-2/B06
    APACHE::FRIEDRICHS
    

    For Sale:
    
    YS120 4-stroke engine, New-in-Box
    Will throw in 2 new 14-10 props.
    Selling to finance an A-10 ducted fan project.
    
    $325.00
    
    Also, all brand new...
    
    Perry VP22SG smoke/gas pump with
    Dubro smoke valve, check valve, tank with conversion, and extra tubing.
    
    $30 for complete set
    
    Contact me directly at:
    
    Chris Spohr @STO  or Mail::Spohr
    dtn: 445-6577 or 314-991-6577
    

    balsa usa sopwith pup
    
    1/3 scale, 108" wingspan, 30 lbs with g62 engine (not included)
    successfully test flown twice.
    includes s134 servo built into each lower wing.
    scale detailing includes rib stitching and metal forward fuse.
    coverite with light tan paint upper, grey lower.
    all flying wires set fixed (no clevises to fail).
    
    needs further detailing (pilot, roundels, gun, etc).
    
    i'm selling because i dont fly much anymore, plane is too
    much bother to store and transport.
    
    flies great, even slow rolls.
    $400 or bo.
    
    kevin
    dtn 225-7316
         

    The YS120 engine offered in 6.486 has been sold.
    
    The smoke setup is still available.
    
    Regards,
    
    Chris Spohr

    
    OS40Surpass 4 stroke.
    
    Needs bearings, which are available from EasterBearing for
    approximately $15.
    
    Complete
    
    $90
    

    I'm entering this for Harvey:   (Thanks also to Kay for some details)


    OS 120 Surpass 4 stroke with pump.
    Newly rebuilt from factory.
    Bench tested since return - runs good.

    $225 Firm

    Harvey A. Thomasian
    369 Brigham St.
    Northboro, MA 01532
    (508)393-8317

                        (Contact Harvey, not me!)

               -< Welcome to the High Tech Air Force conference >-
==============================================================================
        I too am trying to make room for a new Pattern Ship
    
    
    
    
    
    			FOR SALE:
    
    
    	Super Sportster 40 - Red with Yellow Trim flown lots but in
                             excellent condition.  Includes OS40FSR that
    			     runs great.  (A magnum 45 bolts right in also)
    
    
    			$175 with engine, $125 without.
    
    			Will Not Ship - Local Sales only
    
    	Super Sportster 20 - Red with Yellow Trim also flown lots.  This
    			     plane is finished with Super Coverite and
    			     Dope.  Plane is in excellent condition but the
    			     paint is flaking off in a couple of places.
    			     Set up for a 25FP engine - not included
    
    			$90 - again I won't ship this.
    
    
    The above planes are well built and ready to fly.  I will include
    servos at extra cost (Airtronics) since they are installed, or I will
    remove them.  Radio installation is very easy.
    
    
    These planes are low wing aerobatic ships that fly very well but they
    are not for beginners!
    
    
    Charlie Watt   (LEDS::WATT) or DTN 237-6437
    
    
    

    
    
    	For Sale
    
    
    		Brand New in the Box
    
    	Futaba Super Seven aircraft radio.  
    
    I ordered this for my nephew who has since caught the female bug.  He
    can't part with the money now so we're selling it.  The Box was opened
    to verify that everything was inside.  That's it.  We payed 326.00
    + shipping but I'm willing to part with it for 300.00 Including
    shipping.  Just so I get most of my money back.
    
    
    Tom	(413)732-9713 or Vaxmail SA1794::tenerowiczt
    
    

    Hobby shack Citabria.  48 inch wingspan.  All built.  Will sell for
    material costs  $49.  With OS FP 15  $99.     

Rocco Addeo
297-9869
TOGOD::ADDEO

My son has lost interest in the following radio controlled airplane...

Eagle II  (Carl Goldberg)

    Kit includes 2 Fuselages (not assembled)
    Rudder, Fin and wings (assembled)
    New in box...40 Royal Engine
    New in box...Futaba Conquest Radio with 4 servos (purchased one separately)
    $275.00 or BRO    


    Located in Upton, Ma.

    The SS40 in note .495 is sold!  The SS20 is still available.
    
    Charlie
    

    
    Wanted one Royal Muffler and Mounting bolts for a .45 schnerlled (sp.)
    Engine.
    
    e-mail Dneast::Malcolm_Bruc or phone 271-3952
    Thanks
    Bruce

    Kay,
    	If you can't come up with a copy, most time the mags will copy the
    article for you when you purchase the plans.
    
    Tom

    JR Max 6 PCM (programmable) Transmitter & RCD FM RX w/battery pack
    Tx is approximately 2+ years old, in fine working condition.
    Comes with manual, add on count down timer, 3 servos, switch and
    charger 
    
    $200
    
    Dan Snow
    DTN 223-7351
    or (508) 897-2443 evenings

    
	
    Yankee Twister, V-tail Competition Fun-Fly Plane
    
    Completely built, ready to fly, just add radio. Can be flown as 3
    channel without rudder, or with a computer radio. You'll need 4 full
    sive servos and a mid-sized for the throttle. Or for an extra $10 I'll
    leave the throttle servo in.
    
    $100 w/o engine +$10 for throttle servo
    $200 w/OS32 installed. +$10 for throttle servo
    
    **REDUCED PRICE**
    Starhawk Low-wing Sport Plane
    
    Install engine, four channel radio and fly. I bought this as a backup
    plane. It has flown several times, fuselage repaired after a landing in
    the tall grass (short of the runway at low speed) pulled the wing loose 
    and split some seams. Hasn't been repainted. Plane is an ARF, with
    silkspan and dope finish, yellow with black/blue trim, checkerboard on
    wing bottom. Plane is on the heavy side, so I would recommend a strong
    45 2-stroke, or possibly a 60. I flew it with a 70 4 stroke. Reason for
    selling, I am completing a Great Planes Mustang which will become my
    sport flying plane. Plane has test flown after repairs were made.
    PLane will make a decent back up or knock around airplane.
    $70.00  or best reasonable offer  (Bought new for $150 in June)
    
    
    Dan Snow
    DTN 223-7351
    or call (508) 897-2443 evenings

    WANTED:  Inexpensive gas or electric glider.  Or a glider that can be
    converted to gas.  Approx 6-7 foot wingspan.
    Doug Alden
    WMOIS::ALDEN
    241-4274
    (Will be on Vackay Aug 17-28)

In the grab bags at the last CRRC contest I won a 
"$10.00 RCD Purchase Discount Coupon".

The only catch seems to be you have to purchase not only a receiver
but also a flight pack at the same time.  

Free to anyone who wants to use it.

First one to email me their DEC mailing address wins.

Bye          --+--
Kay R. Fisher  |
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		For Sale:	Hobie Hawk 100" glider, factory built

		Finish:		White paint on fuse, white monokote
				on wing and tail.

		Price:		$125

		Contact:	Dave Walter (for Peter Munroe)
                                QUIVER::WALTER, DTN 227-3809

	Peter says this plane is in nice shape, just one blemish on the
	fuse. A rare factory built model. It was set up for JR micro
	servos, the servo tray and switch harness are still installed. 
	Comes with the manual and original box.

	If anyone is interested, I can send you Peter's phone number (be
	prepared to talk a while!).

	Dave
    

    I need to borrow a Dremel or some other precision cutter or router
    tool to make a couple of cuts in a fiberglass cowling. If anybody
    can spare one of these tools for a couple of days, or just over-
    night, I would appreciate it. Thanks.
    
    Dick Sweeney
    DTN 226-7221
    DELNI::R_Sweeney
    

			3 Engines for Sale
			******************


		Super Tiger S61K ringed BB engine. Used one
		season. Excellent condition. This is the
		motor I had on the Scorpio Fiesta that
		weighed in at just over 7 pounds. It pulled
		it around no problem at all. Comes with
		swing style muffler, original box and
		papers. Current 1992 Tower Catalog price
		is $154.00.

		$80 or best offer.


		Enya 60 TVG8. This is a ringed engine that 
		has aprox. 2 seasons worth of time on it. BB 
		supported crank shaft. Very powerful motor with 
		lots of pulling power. This is the motor that
		was on my Super Kaos 60 before my thumb became
		disconnected from my brain. The motor came through
		unscathed except for a broken needle valve, and is
		in excellent condition. It's a basic engine that 
		will run forever. Comes with muffler and Perry carb. 
		Current catalog price is 
		$140.00.

		$70 or best offer.



		Magnum Pro 45 ABC motor. BB supported crank.
		Extremely powerful. It takes my 5.5 pound Unic
		vertical till it's out of sight. One seasons
		use and comes with muffler and factory modified
		carb. Also includes original box and instructions.
		Current catalog price is $99.00.

		$60 or best offer.


		Steve Smith
		SNAX::SMITH
		DTN 225-4395

		

    I am thinking of buying radio gear that comes with 3 Futaba S148
    Servos, that I do not need.  If anyone is interested in these for
    $39 (Towers Flyer has them listed for $45) please contact me.
    
    Regards,
    	Doug Alden  WMOIS::ALDEN  DTN 241-4274
    

	Kyosho Optima-Mid remote control model car features 4 wheel drive, 
	oil filled ajustable shocks, complete set of ball bearings, special
	Kyosho Mega Motor, 7 cell Duratrax nicad battery, new tires (Duratrax
	"Street Paws"). RC unit is a Futaba Magnum Sport (75Mhz).  One year
	old, used little, never raced. Excellent condition.  Car is very sharp 
	looking and VERY fast.  Price includes Hobbico #905 AC/DC Multi charger,
	and large Kyosho field bag.  Cost new $395.  Asking $250 or best offer.
	Days 508-250-3083 (DTN 287-3083), Eves 508-486-8007

    
    Wanted:
    
    Plans or a kit for the Anderson Kingfisher. My Dad is looking for
    either the plans or a kit for this Sport Amphibian. He thinks the kit
    was orginally produced by Champion, but has been out of production for
    some time. If you have, or know of, either, contact me and I can put you in
    touch with him.
    
    Dan Snow
    DTN 223-7351

Linda Snow
CTHQ::SNOW
DTN: 226-7629 (LKG)
HOME: (508)897-2443 (Maynard)

Radio Controlled raceboat:

Great Planes Wildcat twin prop raceboat for sale       $40.00
(full hardware but no motors or radio)

>                                                  <<< Note 6.524 by EMDS::SNOW >>>
>                                               -< Anderson Kingfisher plans wanted >-
>
>    
>    Wanted:
>    
>    Plans or a kit for the Anderson Kingfisher. My Dad is looking for
>    either the plans or a kit for this Sport Amphibian. He thinks the kit

It took me two evenings but I found one.  First I remembered Kingfisher but forgot
about the Anderson part so I found several Vought Kingfisher planes - there pretty
neat and the Navy version is on floats.

Anyway - RCM has plans for the Anderson Kingfisher in the Feb 1990 issue.
Plan #1060 $20.00, 1/4 scale, 108" wing span 1584 sq inches.
It is also pictures in color on the front cover of the RCM Illustrated Plans Catalogue.
Looks pretty nice.

Bye          --+--
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RE: .529

Nice try Kay. I had already pointed that one out to Dan the other day. What 
we both missed was the following:

>    either the plans or a kit for this Sport Amphibian. He thinks the kit
>    was orginally produced by Champion, but has been out of production for

He is looking looking for the plans to a smaller version that was produced as
a kit. 

    NEW OS FP40 FOR SALE $55.
    
    WMOIS::ALDEN
    DTN 241-4274

WANTED WANTED WANTED

Can someone do me a favor and get the following things for me and send them
to me?  I'll of course reimburse any costs and send some German chocolate
bars in addition.


I need a bunch of the screws that SupreTigre uses to hold the muffler
stem thing on to the engine.  The engine uses two screws to hold this on and
I've lost one and would like to get some back ups.  I checked at
a hobby shop here and he couldn't tell what size it is.  It is not M4 and the
threads are different than German standards.  The engine is the new GS40K.
Screws should be same as S-40K or S-45 type engines.

I also need the Needle Valve assembly (needle valve and the holder thing that
screws into the carb) for a Magnum 45 PRO engine.  I don;t want to pay the
DM 93 to buy an OS carb just now and OS parts don't fit this carb.

Please contact me if you can do this for me.

Thanks
Chad
ITHIL::CHAD
Munich, Germany

    A friend at home is looking into getting a ZG62 or Quadra 50 engine.
    Does anyone have one for sale or could you direct me to reasonably
    priced sources?
    
    Thanks,
               Hartmut

    
      SHUCKS, thought we had a convert for a minute! :)
    
    

    My brother just got into road racing, he is building an RC10L and
    is looking for any good used Motors, Gears, Misc. type stuff.
    
    He is also looking for a Radio, racing quality.  Any good leads
    would be appreciated.  We are in Colorado Springs.
    
    -Scott

I got the tower stuff I needed.  Thanks to those who responded

Chad
(I'll try and remember to delete this in a few days)

    
    House of Balsa .40 size Mustang Kit - NEW
    
    		$40.00
    
    	Salem::cozzens
    

 For Sale:

	o Kalt Baron 50 helicopter
	o Webra .61 Helo engine
	o JR Circus 6 channel radio(D6C-4SHN) 72.710mhz
	o flight box with 
	  - Tower Hobbies Deluxe starter panel
	  - Mark X electric fuel pump
	  - Glo plug clip
	o Royal heavy duty starter motor
	o 2 gallons fuel (-1 tank)

 Never flown. Fuselage is completely assembled and ready to fly, Plastic cowl
 Ready to paint. Engine run up once outside of helicopter. This equipment is
 about 5 years old. I have documentation for the radio and helicopter.
    
    	No time to play with this... $300 or best offer takes it all.
    
    	
    Mail to ROYALT::DAIGNEAULT or call 235-8082. Can be seen in Groton, MA
    or in Westford(DSG)/ Littleton(LKG) area.
    
    Thanks,
    DanD

    FOR SALE
    K&B 7.5cc (.45) Ducted Fan engine, NIB
    
    Comes with perry pump and carb from the factory.
    Turns a 9 X 7 1/2 or 8 1/2 X 8 @ 20,000+ on the ground.
    For the high performance airplane jock, just bolt it on to plane.
    
    Selling to finance my trek back into helicopters.
    
    $100 and I'll pay the shipping in the U.S.
    
    Chris Spohr dtn 445-6577 or 314-991-6577
    or
    Chris Spohr @STO or MAIL::SPOHR
    

    Tower Power 15 4cyl fuel, 3 gallons for sale.  I would prefer
    to not ship this stuff.  Located in Nashua, NH.
    
    Any reasonable offer.
    
    Brian
    

    Just getting started in RC Airplanes.  I am looking for someone who
    might have a beginners plane they would like to sale.  Either assembled
    or disassembled.
    
    If you have something that you think I would be interested in, send me
    mail at:  Rhett::Retterer_R.
    
    
    Santa Claus is coming to town early this year!
    
    Thanks 
    
    Rick R
    

    FOR SALE: Enya 120 4-cycle
              About 1 hour run time
    	      Asking $175 or BO
    
    	Call Mike Stains at 603-424-1354
    
    I have seen this engine and it is in excellent condition.
    
    Regards,
    Joe  

    	Hello all,
    
    	The Hellicopter in 6.541 is sold. I Still has 3 gallons of Towers
    fule 1 gallon was opend the other 2 were never opened. $5 each.
    
    	Dan (ROYALT::)DAIGNEAULT, dtn 235-8082.
    
    	Thanks,
    	DanD

    
    Is anyone in the uk (essex or welwyn office) interested in a power
    planes international CESSNA 40 complete less radio gear, suitable for
    use as trainer, or sport flying.
    
    includes
    ENYA .40 engine
    electric starter
    jelly cell
    power panel
    etc
    Has flown, flies well very, but little used.
    about 200 pounds worth for 100 pounds
    phone 0376 346433 after 6.00pm
    
    Richard
    

    Ciao,
    
    I am in need of an OS FT-160 twin 4c. I have one of order since 3
    months ago with Tower, now eta is April 93... I'll be in US end Dec-Jan
    and any pointers as to where I can find one (new or otherwise) will
    be much appreciated.
    
    Best regards, Ed
    
    (Cross posted DECRCM)

>                                               <<< Note 6.549 by VARESE::SIEGMANN >>>
>                                                    -< WANTED: OS FT-160 twin >-
>
>    Ciao,
>    
>    I am in need of an OS FT-160 twin 4c. I have one of order since 3
>    months ago with Tower, now eta is April 93... I'll be in US end Dec-Jan
>    and any pointers as to where I can find one (new or otherwise) will
>    be much appreciated.

Try Toms Hobby Korner (508)251-4576

Bye          --+--
Kay R. Fisher  |
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    For Sale - Enya 120 4C with muffler $175.00 or B/O ..
    
    Send mail Freebe::backhaus

    For Sale 
    
    Goldberg Eaglet with Enya 25 and Futaba Conquest 4 ch AM
    Ready to Fly. Good trainer. $150.00
    
    Send Mail FREEBE::BACKHAUS

    
    Andy Bernier
    HL01-1/R06
    dtn:225-7076
    Located in Hudson, Mass.
    
    
    Merco (English Made) .61.  Little Use.  Currently set up for marine
    use w/water jacket in head.  Complete with set up for air cooled.
    Uses dual glow plugs. Flywheel for marine use also.  Nice engine. 
    
	$100.00 b/o
    
    Royal .40. Like new.  W/muffler and muffler diverter. Clean. $40.00
    firm.
    
    Email or phone fine.
    
    Will consider trading both for complete trainer, R/C gas car, CD's,
    barstools, air stepper, speakers, color tv, nintendo, arcade video
    game, bedroom furniture, dog pen, ahhhhhhh...what else do you have?
    
    /ab 

    I am buy a new module for my MC-20. I am replacing my MC-20 German module 
    with a English language version. Is there an interested German speaking 
    MC-18 upgrader out there?.
    
    Regards,
    
    Eric.

Hi,

Is anyone interested in a Royal .46 long stroke, NIB? Say at $65.00 and I'll pay
the shipping? I don't have the engine yet; somebody locally wants to trade it
for my Cub. I don't need it, but if I can sell it for enough green stuff I'll
make the trade.

Randy Oswald
DTN 592-5322

				RC10 FOR SALE
				*************


		* RC10 1/10th scale on/off road race car for sale.
		* Full ball bearings throughout.
		* Graphite chassis
		* Front Andes A arms
		* Tekin 411P Electronic Speed Controller. (This is the
		  speed controller that pumps power back into the battery
		  pack each time you decelerate.)
		* Stealth Transmission.
		* JR Alpine Controller
		* Ball Bearing steering.
		* "Light Speed" Connectors throughout.
		* 2 Custom painted bodies.
		* Tony Niesinger 14T motor.
		* Duratrax Pro Line 16T motor.
		* Hard race case.
		* Many extra parts including pinion gears, spur gears, tires
	 	  and wheels.
		* MRC AC/DC charger
		* 6 six cell battery packs
		* "stocked" tool box. 

		THIS CAR IS A PROVEN RACE WINNER!!!!!!!!!

		$400.00 or best offer.

		Jason Smith
		(702) 435-9799
		(702) 451-5007

			Wanted

			.20 2-Stroke.

				Larry Bonnette

				Rainbo::Bonnette DTN 226-2689

I've got a K&B Sportster .20 I can sell--HAW!

   Due to the up and coming LLFC auction I decided to get a bit serious about 
   creating some real space in my workshop. (I guess that this is a thinly
    disguised For sale note!).   :-)
   
   
   So far I have decided part with the following items:
   
   
   o ENYA R-120. A real powerhouse of an engine in A1 condition. (Nothin' to   
     really put it in). Great idle, ideal for a scale ship. C/w 14 x 8 PROP
     and original tools. Auction lower limit probably $150
   
   
   o Mick Reeves Hurricane sport scale kit. I have a replacement coming. This 
     one is 80" span. (The new one is 88"). $100 firm.
   
   
   o SKOOTAH "Kit". One of the original CRRC kits, no box. Auction 
     lower limit $20    
   
   
   o SYMMETRICAL FOAM WING. Basically a 20 size UNIC wing. Lower limit ?.
   
   
   o AKRO-PANIC. My rendition of an "Ultimate" Bipe in PANIC form. Well used 
     but still a potent flier. Best offer I think for this one.
   
   
   o Chapter-1 or more affectionatly known as the 1-IM!. Still a riot with
     a .25 and down right dangerous withan OS32. Best offer..
    
   Notes:
   The R-120 is a steal. The Panic is c/w wheels and main pushrods. Some 
   thing that you buy and fly till it drops. The foam wing is ideal for a 
   second wing for a Skootah?. The Skootah kit is just as I bought it from 
   Charlie. You should see the aluminium/aluminum spinner in the M.R. kit!. :-)
   
   All of these things are taking up much needed workshop space so any
   enquiries/takers before the auction are welcome. (Home # (508)435-5241) 
   DTN 297-6178.
   
   Regards,
   
   Eric.
    
    No I'm not the "Snowman" in disguise!  :-) Though it is cold enough
    today!

    Hello,
    
    	I still have 3 gallos of RC fule. It's free for the taking...
    
    
    	DanD
    

    Let up guys please...... The ENYA has been sold - 
    
    My fault for not pposting it in both files...
    
    
    Regards,
    
    Eric.

    Tamiya Blackfoot RC pickup truck W/ Kyosho Pulsar 2 channel radio.
    Truck is assembled, comes with a Kyosho 600E motor installed and an
    extra 360ST motor, truck has a Novak electronic speed control, and
    ball bearing axles. I have three 7.2 volt batteries and 2 chargers,
    1 is an aristocraft 12volt/120volt quick charger, and one is a Hobbico
    model 702 12 volt/120volt charger that has a volt meter, and that can
    trickle charge and quick charge. Radio is in the 75 Mhz band. $200
    
    Hobby Lobby Hunter 4WD gas powered 1/8th scale car w/ Picco .21
    engine. Just need to bolt in the engine, radio already installed.
    Comes with Futuba FP-3PG 3 channel radio, electric starter, box for
    parts w/ power panel installed and more stuff that I can't think of.
    Engine has about an hour on it. This car can easily spin all 4 tires
    on the pavement. Radio is on the 75 Mhz band. #350
    
    I will not seperate the radios from the cars.
    
    Ed Sander
    Brat::sander
    264-1038 ( but never there, mail is better )
    Home phone 508-433-2407
    Cars are located in Pepperell, Ma and I work in MKO
    
    
    

    I'm looking for a 2 meter competition glider. Anything from a Spirit
    to whatever. No flat bottom types.
    
    
    Steve

    I have a Traxxas Blue Eagle with the LS suspension upgrade that I am
    looking to sell.  It currently is setup with a 75mhz Futaba Magnum Jr
    Tekin 610 Speed controller, and Speedworks 350 motor.  I would be
    willing configure it with futaba speed controller and the cheaper
    futaba radio to help someone fit it in a budget. It has a A&L Slam it
    Lower body painted green with orange teardrops.  I'm willing to throw
    in a battery.  This truck has been very well maintained!  I have 6 cars
    and trucks and need to sell one before I buy a "Daytona" nitro 10.
    $200.00 negotiable.
    
    rob owen

    
                            FOR SALE
    
                 RADIO CONTROLLED RACE CAR PACKAGE
    
    Kyosho 12L PLAZMA MKIII Super Light
    
    Lemans 600E motor, independent front suspension, live rear axle with
    coil over shock suspension, 6 cell unipack 7.2V 1400mah battery, Futaba 
    Mini Servos FBS123H, Novak TEC-4 controller, Futaba Magnum Jr. Radio
    (75Mhz) with BEC
    
    All components, car kit and radio are new. Used once for test run.
    
    Excellent performer!!!!
    
    Asking $275.00
    
    Send replies to node:  STEREO::RONEY
    
    dtn 264-4762
    
     

                           FOR SALE


1) SIG KOUGAR

     This plane is finished in monocote.  The fuse is mostly red.  The tail
feathers are white with blue, yellow, and red stripes.  The wing is mainly
white in color, with blue, yellow and red stripes that match the tail
feathers only the width is greater.

     The Engine is mounted at 45 degrees.  It has CB assoc glass mounts.
All hinges are radio south pro CYA.  Fiberglass pushrod for elevator, dubro 102
(solid rod in plastic sheath) for rudder. (Dubro 102 is used on the super
sportster 90/120).  The throttle and steering are in cable.  Comes with wheels,
and Futaba charging jack in place.  Just add radio, and your ready to fly.




2) ASP .46 new never used

      This engine was purchased for the Kougar but has never been used.


3) SIG KADET MKII

   This is a trainer, it has not flown in three years.  It was crashed once,
rebuilt and never flown again.  Good starter plane.

Best Reasonable Offer


4) OS 40

   This engine was used on the trainer and is a great working engine.

Best Reasonable Offer


These items can be arranged to be seen at MRO1.


Please Send Replies to:  WMOIS::DELANEY_R

DTN 241-3979 (not a good bet, I am usually not there)

Thanks,

Rick


    

    		*** FOR SALE .61 IRVINE MARINE ENGINE ***
    
    .61 ABC BB Irvine Marine Engine, Schnuerle porting, watercooled head.
    Includes flywheel, shaft coupler, 2 exhaust headers (1 stock and 1 Mac 
    header), also includes a Irvine .61 super silencer and a machine shop
    constructed "bolt on" water cooled exhaust manifold.  
    
    Engine has had approx. 1 1/2 Gal 15% run through it; has been well 
    maintained and runs excellent.  I am selling because this engine was 
    installed in a boat designed for a bigger engine. 
    
    Asing price for the above $125.00 or B.O.  
    
    Send E-Mail DNEAST::NEVINS_TIM or DTN: 271-6811, home: 207-622-7491.

			    RC stuff for sale

o  Chevy RC truck w/ steering servo, throttle servo, motor. $130.   

o  Pistol grip radio, 75.590mhz, am, Aristocraft make, model Challenger 
   3PXD, very good condition, $50.   

o  Battery charger/discharger, 5501 Championship, amp meter plastic 
   missing, $45.   

o  Astro Flight ACDC automatic charger, in good condition, $40.

o  AE Tamiya dune buggy, electric speed control, steering servo, ASE
   stock motor, $130.   

o  Futaba FP-T2NBL radio, 75.750mhz, $20.

Send mail to Delni::Mariano or call 226-7726 if interested.

    FOR SALE:
    
    Cobra SS narrow with wheels, motor, Futaba Magnum Jr. Protec 707
    charger, Panasonic battery, extra parts. Over $600 new, used once.
    Asking $450.
    
    If interested, please send mail to MRKTNG::L_MOORE
    
    Thank you.
    
    

    My son has a Monster Truck conversion kit for his RC-10. He wanted to
    have the ability to turn the RC-10 from off-road to Monster, in a few
    minutes. While the kit seems very complete, and of decent quality, it
    is meant to be a permanent conversion. So, as a second choice, he is
    looking for a used RC-10 that he can convert. The kit comes with
    tires/rims, so if you've got an old RC-10 that is shoeless, I'd be
    interested in hearing from you. He does not need/want a second radio.
    He will simply place the same crystal in both vehicles and play with
    whichever one he's in the mood for at that moment. Obviously, price is
    a consideration, but I'm willing to listen to all offers.
    
    thanks,
    dennis

    This is for a former DECcie's son.  The car is presently located at
    Hobbies Etc., in Nashua, NH.
    
    Team Associated RC10L graphite
    Leisure 5A AC/DC charger
    Duratrax 1500mah 6 cell battery
    Futuba Magnum Sport Radio (BEC RX and S148 steering servo with servo
                               saver)
    Novak T4 ESC (Brand New, still in package)
    48 pitch gears
    2 27 turn stock motors
    Protoform Ford Thunderbid Stock Car Body, profesionally painted in the
    Budweiser #11, Bill Elliot 92-93 season (Brand New, never used).
    Extra parts and tires.
    
    $250.00, shipping nego. or delivery in the NH, MA area.
    
    Robert 
    285-2733
    

    
    
    
    
                    FOR SALE
                    --------
    
       *** Great Planes 40 Size Mustang ***
    
                with OS70 Surpass
    
                Ready to fly!
    
                $175.00
    
                Contact:  Dan Snow
                          (508)897-2443 (Maynard, MA)  
    
           or send mail to Lin Snow at CTHQ::SNOW or Lin Snow @LKG
                          

    At the Nashua Mall SHow this past weekend, the Flying Eagles had a
    display.  Lot's of good conversation with one-time, and would-be
    modelers.
    
    One elderly gent stopped by saying that he still builds, but no longer flys,
    and advertised two Waco bipes for sale.  
    
    I don't have too many specifics, but this is what he gave me, and if
    interested, please contact him directly.
    
    FOR SALE:
    
    -Waco YMF3 complete with servos, Rx, everything.  Says he's got
    $500-600 invested, and will entertain offers in the $300 range.
    
    -Waco UPF7 complete with servos, Rx, everything including 1.20 4
    stroke.  He says this has roughly $1100 in materials, and would like to
    get $600.
    
    Both planes come with wheels and floats.  He says they're ready to fly.
    
    Contact: Andy Sallet at 603-882-3863.

    Hello
    
    I've decided to start designing my own scaled aircraft and choose the
    ones that are appealing to me. What I need is 1 to 1 scale drawings of
    engines or dimensioned drawings of engines so that I can put them in a
    library on my CAD system at home and call them when ever I need them.
    Does anyone knows where I could find such drawings.
    
    I whas also told that a good magazine to get 3 views of airplanes whas
    one by the name PROFILES.  My local hobby shop tells me that it is no
    longer available. Does anyone know where I could get old editions of
    this magazine. 
    
    Thanks
    
    Jacques
    

    Jacques, for the Profile series of books, you may want to check Barns &
    Noble Book Store.  I was able to secure the Profile book which
    contained the DRI Triplane for reference purposes.
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    
    Regards,
    Ollie

    Ollie,
    
    I'm located in Canada Would you have a phone number for Barns & Noble
    Book Store
    
    Thanks
    
    Jacques

    Jacques, the phone number for Barnes & Noble Bookstore is (603)
    888-0533.
    
    Regards,

    Ollie,
    
    I called the store and they cannot find it. Could you give me more
    specifics on this. Exact title and author would help.
    
    Thanks
    
    Jacques
    

Richard Delaney WMO/C3
WMOIS::Delaney_R       (preferred)
DTN 241-3979 


                  REMOTE CONTROL PLANES/ENGINES FOR SALE


1) SIG KOUGAR

     This plane is finished in monocote.  The fuse is mostly red.  The tail
feathers are white with blue, yellow, and red stripes.  The wing is mainly
white in color, with blue, yellow and red stripes that match the tail
feathers only the width is greater.

     The Engine is mounted at 45 degrees.  It has CB assoc glass mounts.
All hinges are radio south pro CYA.  Fiberglass pushrod for elevator, dubro 102
(solid rod in plastic sheath) for rudder. (Dubro 102 is used on the super
sportster 90/120).  The throttle and steering are in cable.  Comes with wheels,
and Futaba charging jack in place.  Just add radio, and your ready to fly.

    Best Reasonable Offer



2) ASP .46 ENGINE    new, never used

      This engine was purchased for the Kougar but has never been used.

    Best Reasonable Offer

3) SIG KADET MKII

   This is a trainer, it has not flown in three years.  It was crashed once,
rebuilt, and never flown again.  Good starter plane.

    Best Reasonable Offer


4) OS 40

   This engine was used on the trainer and is a great working engine.

    Best Reasonable Offer


    

    wanted...
    
       .15 - .26 engine
    
    this is for a sig scamp
    
    pls reply to svcrus::hogan
    
    rick hogan
    dtn 223-9429
    

I've added a fourth servo to the JR Max4, but the left the price the same. This
radio is on Channel 50 and just over a year old. I'd really like to sell the
radio soon, so send mail if you're interested.


	JR Max4FM Tx&Rx				$125
	(Ch 50 3-servos, chgr, switch, RX nicad)	

Thanks,

-Lamar   {MICROW,OLCROW,MACROW}::PHILLIPS

    I am looking for the book or a copy of the book intitled:
    
    DESIGNING & BUILDING COMPOSITE R/C MODEL AIRCRAFT
    
    I called Zenith Books but they don't have it anymore and are not
    waiting for a reprint for a long time.
    Send note to :POLAR::SIBILLE
    Or call: DTN 621-4012
    
    Tanks,
    
     Jacques

Someone asked for info on model strobes. I got the following info from the 
Ace catalog. It's also available through Sig and I think Tower carries it.

I couldn't find the original request so I figured here was as good a place 
as any.

The numbers included seem to be a RAM number since they are common between 
Ace and Sig.

08	Electronic switched (controls up to 20 amps)
31	Simple Siren (usdes 9v Transistor battery)
02	Improved and adjustable rate strobe light (.5oz uses 9v bat)
23	real strobe light (uses 2 AA pen cells)
01	programable flashing navigation lights (uses 9v bat)
14	big airplane navigation lights
04	adjustable rate Mars Rotating Beacon (uses 9v bat)
16	econo landing lights (uses 9v bat)

Looks like you can deck your plane out in style!

    
    Andy Bernier
    DTN:225-7076
    SCOMAN::BERNIER  	ATLAS VAN LINES HYDROPLANE.  Need to be sealed
    			at a couple outside edges but otherwise excellent.
    			NEVER smashed up.  7.5 K & B marine engine with
    			tuned pipe.  Will throw in two channel radio and
    			ni-cads.
    
    			$100.00 best offer
    
    

	Wanted

	The Address and Or phone number for Webra in the US.

	I have a Webra .40 that is sick and need to send it in
         for repairs.

				Larry 


				Rainbo::bonnette

Depends on how old it is. I had trouble getting parts for the old MRC 
vintage engines. Horizon Hobbies is the current importer. You should be 
able to get hold of them as follows (from page 14 of the 9/93 Model 
Aviation)

Horizon Hobby Distributors, Inc.
4105 Fieldstone Rd.
Champaign, IL 61821
(217) 355-9511

    Well, this weekend I developed the "need" for a 120 4cycle engine.
    
    A friend offered me his 1+ year old Enya for $175.  I just sent mail
    to John Backhaus about his...  Any other 120s out there that are
    available??
    
    Thanks,
    jeff
    

	- Concept 30 DX w/ O.S. heli engine and O.S. muffler, 5 airtronics
	  servos and S-GX gyro
	- Airtronics VR6H 6 channel heli radio
        - Training gear

I assembled the kit - it's in excellent condition and has been flown only 3
times, all with the training gear on - never crashed!

I just don't have the time to become proficient at it.  I've had it all year 
and only flown it 3 times.  My main objective was to learn about helicopters 
anyways.  Now I want the money to take REAL flying lessons!  :-)

$700 o.b.o. takes the whole package....

Curt

    
         	       *****  Lot's o' lead  *****
    
    I found a sale on lead shot at a local firearms and outfitter store.
    It's perfect for nose weight, ballast, and hapless ducks. But it comes
    in increments of 25 pounds, so unless I build a gaggle of tail heavy
    planes, I'm not likely to need this much for several lifetimes. So if
    anyone in the Eastern Mass. area would like to invest in some heavy
    metal, drop me a line. $0.50/lb.
    
    Dave
    

    Dave,
    	I found a GREAT use for lead shot years ago.  I fill old socks (no
    holes please) with it and use them for building weights.  They will
    hold a fuse in place while working on it while conforming to its shape. 
    I have four of them at about 5# each.  Put the shot in a plastic bag
    first or it will come through the socks if it's the real small stuff.
    
    Charlie
    

    I'll take 15lbs from you.
    
    Eric H.

    Um... I've got requests for about 30 lbs. From a 25 lb bag. Eric: Since
    you could use just about a whole bag, I  suggest you go to Lew Hortons
    Outfitters (Since 1947) in Framingham. They are below the Ski Market on
    Rt. 9, and have lots of the bags of shot piled up. $12.50 seemed to be a
    good price; another place quoted me $16.50.
    
    Charlie: That's a GREAT idea! I never thought of it, but there've been
    many times when I wished I had a block of pig-iron or something
    similar. I'll give it a try. 
    
    Meanwhile, I owe 5 lbs. to Jim and Lamar...
    
    Dave
    

    What size shot did they have?  The stuff I got was a little too small -
    and I think more expensive because of the size.  Any shot works well
    for Lead Socks.   (Not to be confused with Red Socks.)
    
    Charlie
    

    
    Actually you can confuse the two.
    
        Based on the the Sox speed/running game, I'd call them Lead Sox
        for sure.

    They had #7, 8 and 9. I got #9, the smallest. Haven't actually opened
    the sack yet to see what I got, but this I can tell you: it's heavy!
            

    If you don't mind playing with lead, you can also use the shot to cast
    your own custom fitted weights..  Using epoxy sometimes takes up too
    much  room..
    
    I also use sock weights to hold down foam cores during the cutting and
    sheeting phase, as well as holding fuse sides in place before glueing.
    
    And I also use 75# of weight in my baggage compartment to keep the
    sundowner from being too nose heavy!!  (ooppps, wrong conference).
    
    cheers,
    jeff
    
    

    Dave,
    	I have #9 in my sock weights.  Evil suggested plastic bags inside
    the socks because my socks leak.  The shot works it's way out through
    the ends.  I'll upgrade them some time soon.  (maybe with newer socks)
    
    Charlie
    

    Imagine what the socks were like before they got relegated to lead shot
    containers?.
    
    It is safer to isolate the lead shot in plastic before putting it in
    the socks.
    
    The lead-socks are great for weighting down compound or non-flat
    shapes. Also they make the cat move extremely quickly when one falls off
    of the bench! :-) 
    
    E.
    

    If you use your old gym socks, wash them first or they will refuse to
    conform to curves! :-)
    
    C.
    

>    If you don't mind playing with lead, you can also use the shot to cast
>    your own custom fitted weights..  Using epoxy sometimes takes up too
>    much  room..

Usually I put the shot in a Dixie cup and tape it to the airplane.
After I determine the amount I mix in silicon to a slurry and stuff
the mixture where ever I need the weight.  This is quick and stays put
and in a pinch if you want to take some out you can kinda scrape it
back off.  I usually check the weight before and after I add the silicon
and remove some to keep it just right.

Bye          --+--
Kay R. Fisher  |
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    Re: -.2 
    To add to Kay's thoughts.. (Silicon and lead mix - what a good idea)

    	When requiring large amounts of additional nose weight in a glass
    or similar Fuz : I establish whats required, prepare about 80% of it in
    an old ladle over a gas burner, put the fuz nose in cool water and then
    pour straight in when ready. A bit permanant, but at least its as far
    forward as you can get it..
    
    Trevor.
    
    OOOPs.. Wrong note ... perhaps it was an idea FOR SALE free of charge. 

I've only been able to put about 12 flights on this little beauty
and hate to see it sitting in my cellar. My RC time has been VERY
limited this year, and I need to reduce my inventory of "hanger
queens." The SS 20 is finished in white with red and blue trim.
I'm selling it with the servos, Rx battery, and switch included.
Just add your engine and receiver and your all set. The servos
include are: 2- Royal minis, 1- JR 507, and one RCD Apollo 20(mini).
The engine mount is tapped for an OS FP .25 engine. I'm asking
$125 for the plane, but will take best reasonable offer. This is
a great little plane and flies like it's on rails!

I can be reached at MICROW::PHILLIPS(perfered) or DTN 227-4314.

-Lamar

				ITEMS FOR SALE
				**************

If you are interested in any item listed below, please contact the following
individual with questions or offers.

				Harvey Thomasian
				369 Brighan ST.
				Northboro, Ma 01532
				(508) 393-8317


1. ENYA 240 V-TWIN. Excellent condition $650.00

2. REICHMUTH TWIN IGNITON for above. $150.00  (list is $250)

3. ZENOAH G-62. NIB with Bennet mount. Comes with spring starter
   and throttle kit. Paid $445.00. Will sell for $395.

4. WEBRA 120 2 CYCLE. NIB. $225.00. Slimline smoke muffler specifically for
   this motor $75.00 list, $60.00 if purchased with motor.

5. HP 40 Gold Cup motor for fun flyers. Very good Condition. $60.00

6. ASP 61. Very good condition. $65.00

7. Two BRAND NEW Kraft 7 channel 2 stick radios. These are 1974 and 1975 
   series radios but are absolutely new. One is complete in original box
   with all papers. Comes with spare servos, switch harnesses, extension
   cables, AND a spare receiver. Everything is in perfect condition including
   batteries. Both radio's for $225.00 or best offer.

   NOTE...These radio's are on 72 mgh and are NOT 1991 certified.
   However the price quoted for converting BOTH radio's was under $70 dollars.

8. Futaba FP-6154 Gyro. NIB. $50.00

9. Airtronics SG-1 Gyro. NIB $80.00



				   WANTED
				   ******

			OS 61 4 CYCLE or OS70 SURPASS

			***** FOR SALE *****



	Great Planes Ultrasport 60 with OS91 SURPASS - Excellent Condition
                     Metalic Blue with White Trim like in Tower Ads

		$325 with Engine  ($175 without)

	This plane flies great and makes a good Sportsman Pattern Plane.


	Great Planes Aeromaster Bipe set up for OS91 SURPASS - Excellent
	Condition - White with Red trim.  


		$150 Firm  (will sell with engine if above engine available)



	I have taken up serious Pattern Flying and need $$$ for that.



	Charlie Watt   DTN 237-6437   Home 842-0976



	I won't ship these planes - you will have to pick them up in
	Shrewsbury Mass.

If interested in any of the items below, please contact:

Lin Snow, CTHQ::SNOW or Lin Snow @LKG, DTN 226-7629 or
                                       Home: (508)897-2443 (Maynard, MA)
                                             

WINTER CLEARANCE SALE
---------------------

ZIMPRO DALOTEL
--------------
70"span
Excellent Sport/Pattern plane
Set-up for YS120
Flaps, Fixed Gear
All balsa construction

$150.00

******************************

APC Pattern Props
-----------------
2 12X12's
1 12X11
1 12X10

$6.00 each

    		Wanted - speed controller and/or 6/7 cell battery
    	
    Anyone have an electric speed control and or tired battery pack??
    Over the last couple of years I have picked up the various parts for an
    RC Car at auctions and such, and now all I need are these...  A
    servo driven control is fine...
    
    As for the batteries, I am not going to be racing or anything..  So 
    I would like a pack that will hold a charge, but cheap...
    
    Thanks,
    jeff
    APACHE::FRIEDRICHS
    

    
     While I was buying my latest YS120, Rusty mentioned that a friend had
    asked him to sell an OS supercharged engine for him.
    
    This engine is an OS 120 4-c with a blower on the back. He wants $450.
    
    If you need to know more please call Rusty Fried in Phoenix Arizona
    (2 hrs out from Boston time - they don't change their clocks)
    
    Work (Complete MArine) 602/966-1595
    Home 602/255-0635.
                           

    Anyone have a source of baby carriage wheels??  You know, the nice
    metal spoked and rubber ones that used to be on baby/doll carriages..
    
    Here in the US, all you find is plastic....  Anyone from overseas
    still see these around??
    
    Please send me mail so we can make arrangements...
    
    Thanks!
    jeff (that sees the end in sight for his Junkers!)
    APACHE::FRIEDRICHS
    

    
    Jeff,
    
    There used to be a pram (as we call them 8^) factory near where I was
    brought up. I've asked my mum to check if they're still in business.
    
    Me: "Hi mum! is that pram factory still in Letchworth"
    
    Mum: "WHAT! Why do you want a pram, what's going on? Why haven't you
          told me before....."
    
    Took me ten minutes to calm her down! I dunno, the trouble R/C can get
    you into! 8^)
    
    Anyway, what sort of size are you after? I'll do some checking round.
    
    Cheers
    
    Nigel
    

    I'm looking for about 5" wheels...
    
    Sorry to give your mum the fright!  Thanks for looking around!
    
    cheers,
    jeff
    
    (Yes, I know that Proctor makes them...  But at about $60/pr, I don't
    think so....)
    
    BTW - if anyone knows of a single Proctor wheel laying around, I would
    like that...  I bought a single wheel at the auction..  Ya never know
    when another one might come along!!
    
    

    As mentioned elsewhere, I am building a WWI Junkers J10/CL1. 
    
    It is a stand-off scale project, so I would like to have a decent color
    scheme.  However, all I can find on it is one small color picture...
    
    Does anyone know where I can get more color documentation??    How
    'bout you folks in Germany??
    
    Thanks,
    jeff
    

    Sorry Jeff, few days too late. On the fair last week there where
    several oldies, shure a Junkers, too.
    
    Bernd
    

    			
    				RC-10 For Sale
    
                Completely built RC-10 with a full set of ball bearings,
    3 batteries, Futaba Magnum Sport radio, 2 sets of tires (slicks and
    knobbies) and two motors, both the stock version and a "Twister" after
    market motor. Also includes a nice homebuilt field box that holds all
    of the above and your tools, with a small fold-down work table. 
    
    	This would be a great car for someone interested in starting RC
    car racing; the RC-10 is probably the most popular car around and has
    more than its share of aftermarket parts dealers and more importantly,
    excellent advice regarding its care and feeding is available right here
    on this notesfile. The car has not been used extensively and has never
    been abused.
    
    	Asking price: $250
    
    							
    	Send mail to took::sankar if interested.
    
    			
    		
    

    
    
	Kyosho Optima-Mid remote control model car features 4 wheel drive, 
	oil filled ajustable shocks, complete set of ball bearings, special
	Kyosho Mega Motor, 7 cell Duratrax nicad battery, new tires (Duratrax
	"Street Paws"). RC unit is a Futaba Magnum Sport (75Mhz).  Used
    	only a few times, never raced. Excellent condition.  Car is very sharp 
	looking and VERY fast.  Price includes Hobbico #905 AC/DC Multi charger,
	and large Kyosho field bag.  Cost new $395.  
    
    			ANY REASONABLE OFFER ACCEPTED.
    
	Days 508-250-3083 (DTN 287-3083), Eves 508-486-8007

    

    If anyone is interested in buying a newly built 61 Boxer please call 
    Rob Larson at 203/526-2267, evenings. Rob lives in Deep River CT. The
    plane was built to travel to the December '93 Tangerine Pattern Comp in
    FL. 
    
    His regular 120 Boxer was too big to economically transport so Rob built 
    and took a 61 version. In its first outing he/it won in the Advanced class.
    
    It can be bought loaded or bare.
    
    
    LOADED contains the following:
    
    - YS61 with MAC quiet pipe and header
    	(Engine has new bearings and is 2 seasons old)
    
    - Supra retracts.
    
    - Futaba 9021 servos.
    
    - Retract 136 servo.
    
    Reported to weigh 7 1/4 pounds. It has honeycombed wings covered in
    "monkey coat" and the fuselage is glassed and sprayed.
    
    Note:- There is no RX or Nicad pack. 
    
    
    BARE
    
    Is basically the airframe. (Not sure if the retracts would be included
    or not)
    
    
    The two asking prices are $950-loaded and $650-bare.
    
    I would add that the win was partly attributed to the reliability of
    his plane. Sounds like a winner to me. :-)
    
    Regards,
    
    EVL-1
                            

Wanted

Futaba R114 AM receiver - any frequency.

I need one of these for a boat - I promise I will change the 
frequency and never fly it.

I just missed Jim taking one to an auction and getting $17 for
one with a transmitter.

I currently have one on order but it's taking longer than I want
because of the frequency requested.  I could save time and perhaps
even money by picking up a used one and sending it to Kraft for
a frequency change.

Anybody got an old Attack Rx laying around that you wanna part with - CHEAP?

Bye          --+--
Kay R. Fisher  |
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Free to the first person to reply to this note and send me mail
with their mail stop.

One NSP Quarterly.

It is just a little 4 page thing about the size
of the old Digital This Week magazines.

I just got an extra because of a zip code problem.

It is a couple months old.

Bye          --+--
Kay R. Fisher  |
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hi all,

is there interest for a graupner mc20 tx, nib, for approx. 650 $?
the tx comes out of a bulkorder, this is the reason for the low price.

cheers
joe t.

    This radio is compatible with all of your current JR 347 JR TX modules and
    PCM/FM receivers. All you have to do is plug in the module and use a
    USA antenna. 30 model memories and 10 channels.  PC copy of programs. I
    could go on for ever. I shelled out approx $850 for mine so this is a
    deal.
    
    I will give anyone an English copy of the manual.
    
    Regards,
    
    E.

Please contact Judi Mariano 
	       Delni::Mariano
	       No calls please

		         RC Equipment for sale

o  Chevy RC truck w/ steering servo, throttle servo, motor ......... $130.   

o  Pistol grip radio, 75.590mhz, am, Aristocraft make, model 
   Challenger 3PXD, very good condition ............................. $50.   

o  Battery charger/discharger, 5501 Championship, amp meter plastic 
   missing .......................................................... $45.   

o  Astro Flight ACDC automatic charger, in good condition ........... $40.

o  AE Tamiya dune buggy, electric speed control, steering servo, 
   ASE stock motor ................................................. $130.   

o  Futaba FP-T2NBL radio, 75.750mhz ................................. $20.
								     =====
								     $415

These are the prices if bought individually but, if you want the entire
package it's yours for $350.

			MOTORS AND PLANES FOR SALE
			**************************

1. OS61LS REAR EXHAUST WITH PUMP. THIS MOTOR HAS A CUSTOM CHROME PLATTED
   CRANK AND NEW CUSTOM PISTON AND CHROME SLEEVE. NEW BEARINGS WITH
   PHENOLIC KEEPERS. MOTOR HAS ONLY 1 HOUR OF BENCH TIME. MOTOR HAS BEEN
   MODIFIED FOR GREATER POWER AND FLATTER THROTTLE RESPONSE (THIS IS BASICALLY
   THE HANNO SPECIAL MODIFICATION)

   $195.00

2. TWO OS61LS REAR EXHAUST MOTORS WITH PUMPS. THESE MOTORS HAVE BEEN MODIFIED
   FOR GREATER POWER AND FLATTER THROTTLE RESPONSE (BASICALLY THE HANNO MOD).
   BOTH MOTORS ARE IN EXCELLENT CONDITION.

   $165 EACH

3. STOCK OS61LS SIDE EXHAUST. EXCELLENT CONDITION.

   $105.00

4. PATTERN PLANE.....BRIDIE ESCAPE MODIFIED TO BE THE "NARROW ESCAPE".
   MODIFICATION INCLUDES A LOWERED STAB, LONGER NOSE, AND THE EXHAUST IS
   ROUTED OUT THE BOTTOM OF THE FUSE. PLANES COMES WITH ALL NEW PUSH RODS
   AND HORNS, SUPRA TRIKE RETRACTS, CUSTOM FUEL TANK, TRUE TURN SPINNER, 
   AND IS SET UP FOR REAR MOUNTED RUDDER AND ELEVATOR SERVO'S. PLANE IS AN
   EXCELLENT FLIER AND IS IN EXCELLENT CONDITION.

   $300 OR BEST OFFER.

5. MODIFIED SUPER KAOS 60. SAME MODS AS ABOVE. PLANE IS A LITTLE OLDER BUT IS
   STILL IN GOOD CONDITION. IT COMES WITH SUPRA RETRACTS (TAIL DRAGGER), AND
   TRUE TURN SPINNER. ALSO HAS ALL NEW PUSH RODS AND HORNS. IT IS SET UP FOR
   EITHER A MUFFLER OR PIPE. THIS IS AN EXCELLENT ENTRY LEVEL PATTERN PLANE
   THAT IS SET UP AND READY TO GO.

   $200 OR BEST OFFER.

				If interested in any of
				the above, please contact
				Jack Zimmank at the following
				numbers.

				HOME...(508) 485-9280
				WORK...(508) 389-5651

  Jack would prefer not to ship the planes but is willing to talk about it.
  For what it's worth, I've seen all of this stuff except for the Kaos and
  it's in good shape. Jack did the same engine mod to my OS61LS and it runs
  great.

    Jeff Friedrichs
    VMSSPT::FRIEDRICHS
    dtn 381-1175
    603-889-4366 (home)
    Item is in Merrimack, NH (1 mile from MKO)
    
    
    		Kitchen range Hood For Sale
    
    Almond color hood with vent and light.  I believe it is GE.  Works fine
    but was replaced by a microwave/vent hood.
    
    **
    **Would also be great for a modeler/crafts table to provide good light
    **and air movement around working area!
    **
    
    $25
    
    Cheers,
    jeff
    

Joerg Laves
MKOTS4::LAVES
DTN 264-0212

Looking for trainer (40 size preferred), radio and all the goodies.

Cheap would be great.

    Robert White
    SALEM or VTLAKE::WHITE_R
    DTN 285-2733
    
    Wanted:  burn't, broken or damaged RC electronics (speed controls,
    receivers, transmitters, servos).  Send me a list of what you've got
    that you've been thinking about trashing vs. sending in for repair and
    I'll make an offer of cash or replacement with an equivalent working
    item.  Taken up a side hobby of repairing RC electronics.
    
    Robert

    
    
    
    
    
    Keith Allen
    DTN 223-2684
    LUNER::ALLEN
    
    
    For Sale:
    
    Futaba Atteack-4 FP-4NBL , 4 channel system with MCR-4A and 
    2 FP-S133 Micro Servo's. This has battery eliminator receiver
    for electric type RC planes. Radio is on channel 52. Never used
    the plane this was to go into was CRUSHED!!! during a house move.
    (It's funny what a king size water bed frame will do to balsa.)
    
    Asking $125.00 
    
    Work in Maynard, Live in Nashua so delivery possible.
    

    
    Keith Allen
    DTN 223-2684
    LUNER::ALLEN
    
    
    For Sale:
    
    Super Sportster 60 by Great Planes. Still in box, never started.
    Still trying to fly a trainer, so I never attempted this one.
    
    Asking $50.00 OBO

owner doesn't have time now that he's flying his Gremlin 8^)

    
    WANTED - A single or a pair of Proctor ~5" spoked wheels.  I only
    really need 1, but I will buy a set if someone has one.
    
    Alternatively, could everyone look in their basement/attic at the
    wheels on your old strollers??  
    
    Thanks!
    jeff
    

    re: -.1
    
    Make that TWO pairs of 5" spoked wheels.  I need the same size for the
    big Ziroli Taube I'm building.
    
    Thanks,
    Joe

    
    FOR SALE
    
    OS 61SF ABC WITH STOCK MUFFLER AND MAC HEADER AND MAC PIPE
    GOOD CONDITION USED ABOUT 50 FLIGHTS. $150.00
    
    PICO 21 WITH STOCK MUFFLER AND PICO HEADER AND ROSSI PIPE.
    GOOD CONDITION USED ABOUT 25 FLIGHTS $100.00

    Hope I am doing this correct. 
    For Sale: Great Planes Pt20 Trainer built/covered never flown
    Red fuse/yellow rudder,elevator- yellow wings,red aielerons sp?
    includes Irving 20 black head motor , run a few times,in box,like new.
    Moving sale bonus: Great Planes Super Sport 20 new in the box.
    
    All This for $100.00 !!!!  both planes
    
    Train on the PT20 and move up to the SS20 !
    
    And if you order right now , we will send you for the cost of shipping,
    
    3 gallons of fuel, all you pay is shipping and handling..
    
    Bob Donaghy        DTN 328-3719 or vmail BBOVAX::DONAGHY

    I had a plan to build a Champion 45L as a pattern practice ship before 
    the season got really going. I went ahead and bought the plane but time 
    and moving house swept on by me again.
    
    As a result I shall probably not get around to putting this plane
    together this year. Instead of letting the box gather dust I will offer 
    it for sale. It would be ideal for either Novice or Sportsman to get them
    rolling very quickly. I reckon about three good evenings to put it
    together. I have seen them fly and they do everything like a pattern
    ship and track very well indeed.
    
    The plane is for sale at $130.00, (if you pick it up).
    
    It truly is ready to assemble and is complete with all accessories such
    as tank, pushrods, wheels, spinner, clevices etc. It is designed to
    take a Magnum 45 with a standard muffler or any equivalent engine. 
     
    The only difference from factory spec is that it will already have a   
    fluorescent stripe down the side. A neccessary mod at my age. :-)
    
    
    Regards,
    
    E.-  Home # (508)435-5241
    

    RE: 6.656
    
    Should add that this airplane is a kit, and not assembled.
    
    Pam

Alcyone 2 meter glider with 6 servos(4-133's in wing) with spare fiberglass fuselage
for $250. Needs a computer radio to take advantage of the 4 servos in the wing. The
fiberglass fuse still needs some work to be ready for use. Send mail to 
{MICROW, OLCROW, or TPTEST}::PHILLIPS if interested. 

-Lamar

    Made another trip to Steve Lelitos and bought one of his Fox-Fires for
    my YS120. During the trip I also saw the following for sale.
    
    
    A rebuilt Jeep $2000.00
    
    A second more used Foxfire $400 (He let it slip that he would take 350)
    
    A started Aurora with an addition foam wing - a $200 kit that he will
    sell for $100
    
    A brandy new untouched Jekyll 120 for $300. Saves you RC/City price and
    postage. Comes with Glass fuselage wing joining tube and foam cores..
    
    
    (508)544-3590
     
    Regards
    
    E
                 

  Some items that are being released from my grasp? :-)
  
  
  1. OS91 SURPASS: Runs very well. Last used in the Acro-Wot complete with 
     Ali. Prop nut. $230.00
  
  2. OS91 EXTENSION MUFFLER SYSTEM. $40.00, Worth a lot more. 
     Comes with inside header, extension header, and OS extra quiet muffler 
     with pressure tap and fittings.
  
  3. OS61 or 91 In-flight-adjustment needle assembly. $12.00 Lets you adjust 
     your needle while you fly.
  
  4. 2 and 1/2" Tru-turn spinner $10.00
  
  
  5. OS 61 and 91 threaded Tru-turn spinner nut, bolt and washer $5.00
  
  
  6. Harry Higgly ali. lock nut for OS61 or 91. $2.00
  
  
  7. Two ENYA 46's - Matched pair for a twin.
  
     - ENYA 46 4-c Anti-clockwise rotation. $100.00
  
     - ENYA 46 4-c Clockwise rotation. $100.00
  
       (Can be easily re-timed to anti-clockwise rotation)
  
  8. Six Zinger pusher and six Zinger puller props for above engines $12.00
  
  9. CHAMPION $45L ARF Pattern Sports plane NIB $120.00
  
  
  Call daytime DTN or (508)435-5241 evenings up to 10 PM and weekends.
  
  
  Regards,
  
  Eric. 

  Some items have sold already.
    
    
  3. OS61 or 91 In-flight-adjustment needle assembly. $12.00 Lets you adjust 
     your needle while you fly.
  
  4. 2 and 1/2" Tru-turn spinner $10.00
  
   
  5. OS 61 and 91 threaded Tru-turn spinner nut, bolt and washer $5.00
     
    
  7. Two ENYA 46's - Matched pair for a twin.
  
     - ENYA 46 4-c Anti-clockwise rotation. $100.00
  
     - ENYA 46 4-c Clockwise rotation. $100.00
  
       (Can be easily re-timed to anti-clockwise rotation)
  
  8. Six Zinger pusher and six Zinger puller props for above engines $12.00
  
  9. CHAMPION $45L ARF Pattern Sports plane NIB $120.00
  
  
  Call daytime DTN or (508)435-5241 evenings up to 10 PM and weekends.
  
  
  Regards,
  
  Eric. 

     Old MONOGRAM Piper Cub kit for sale.
    
     Dates back to 1960's ?, Still in original box, all parts and
    instructions included.
    
    Wing span is 36", Kit is all Balsa.
    
    Please help me establish value.
    
    call if interested...
    
    Jp

    A friend of mine would like to sell two motors he has never used or
    started. They are New In Box. Will some one(s) please reply to what
    they think they are worth, Thanks:
    
    Fox .36 Bal Bearing schneurled port without muffler
    Royal .45 ABC Ball Bearing also schneurled port with muffler. The
    needle valve assembly is still in the plastic bag, stapled.
    
    These engines were purchased somewhere in the mid 80's. I have looked
    them over they are clean, no rust or currosion every thing turns etc.
    
    Thanks
    
    Bruce
     

    Does anyone have an Enya 120 4c??  Back last year I bought one for my
    Junkers; but the seller did not have any instructions...  It is time
    to get to know this engine...
    
    If you have one, could you make a photo copy of the instructions for 
    me??
    
    Thanks,
    jeff
    

    What is it that you need to know. I can recall most of what you might
    need.
    
    Call me.
    
    Regards,
    
    Eric.
    
    P.S. Is it the R120?

    Need phone number and/or address for JR Customer Service/Repair Dept. 
    Picked up a couple of JR servos in a yard sale and one of them needs
    a new motor and gear set.
    
    thanx
    
    Robert

    JRSA - 1-800-458-0241 or 217/355-9511
    
    They are now addressed as 	Horizon Hobby Distributors Inc
    				JRSA Service Dept.							
    				3102 Clark Road
    				PO BOX 6029
    				Champaign IL 61821
    
    What is/are the numbers on the servos e.g. 507 etc. I may have some
    parts?.
    
    Regards,
    
    Eric.
             

    re -1
    Don't remember the part numbers.  Will take a look at them tonight and
    get back with you tomorrow.
    
    thanx for the info
    
    Robert

    Just in case there is miss-communication here: Not the part numbers, the 
    ID number of the servo?.
    
    
    E.

	Dan LeBlanc
	DTN 223-1628
	WRKSYS::DLEBLANC

	FOR SALE: Glider needing repair

	PRICE: BO



	I have had a glider in my basement for a few years. Someone gave this 
	to me for a busy project. I don't know why, I've never been into this
	hobby. Needless to say, I have no history on this plane and
	can barely speak the language.

	I'm cleaning the basement and it has to go.

    Glider

	The wing span is about 100".
	The overall length of the plane is 48".
	Balsa core construction with some type of plastic covering.
	Plane has a receiver and two Controlaire 'actuators'.
	  (for the elevator and rudder (I think they're called))
	A battery.
	The nose is weighted.
	White fuselage and yellow wings.
	Wings are detachable and in perfect shape.
	Detachable cockpit canopy.	

	There is some damage:

		The rudder and left tail section are damaged in that
		the balsa core needs to be repaired. These sections
		are dangling.


    Controller

	Controlaire by World Engines.
	27.195MC.
	Usual two joysticks and trimmers.
	Telescoping, top loaded antennae
	A little switch with a safety lock (I presume the ON/OFF switch)
	Battery level meter
	The case cosmetics are not great and I have not opened it up.

I checked out the glider Dan is selling in .671 and it's in good shape. It's a
standard class straight wing plane with transparent yellow wings and tail and a
white fuselage. The fuselage is built up and quite round and has a nice finish.
It has a removable canopy and wing center section. It has plug in wings. The
tail feather damage is clean and would probably CA together quickly. It's a 2
channel rudder/elevator plane. The radio is old 27mhz pre-1991 stuff so it
shouldn't be used. I think the plane is worth $25 to someone wanting a nice
backup plane or wanting to dabble with gliders.

I have plenty of projects at the moment but I told Dan I'd put in an evaluation
for him.

Jim

    Jeff Friedrichs
    VMSSPT::FRIEDRICHS
    dtn 381-1175
    603-889-4366 (home)


        	SUMMER CLEARANCE SALE - UPDATE

I have the following items for sale:  Combinations and other offers are 
welcome!  

	OS .25FP - Looks pratically new.  Last owner claims no crashes.  $50

	OS .25FP - Looks faily well used.  $25.

	Blue Bird .25 - (Has anyone ever heard of one of these??)  Looks
		practically new, last owner claims it had about 4 hours on it.
		$30

	Eaglet 50 plane - Flyable condition.   Owner claimed 5 flights on it.
		Multi colored.  $30.  or $50 w/Blue Bird engine (which is 
		currently installed).

	Aluminum transmitter case for single transmitter.  Very good condition.
		Listed for $50 at RC Buyers/Towers.  $40.

    FREE Fuel
    =========    
        Omega 5% fuel - almost 1 gallon
	Cool Power 10% - almost 2 gallons
	Power Blast - About 1.5 gallons

	FREE - All containers have been opened.  I don't want to pour it 
		out, so if you have some use for it, here it is...
	

WRT .671 and .673

I'd like this plan to go and I would hate to trash it.

Any takers?

Dan

  I have a Hobby Lobby Sport 500 heli for sale. 350$.
 It has an Enya 40 and Airtronics 72 mhz (aircraft) electronics.
 The copter is in flyable shape. I did a bit of work on it after I 
 got it from my cousin to sell and it is in a lot better shape than 
 when he was TRYING to fly it! I rebalanced the whole rotor section, 
 replaced lotsa screws and swivel sockets. Some minor quirks still exist
 but if your into playing, this is the machine, it still needs work.
 It has a gyro in it, I forget the type but it works. I can show you it 
 hoover. 

 No starter. I have a Schluter Miniboy that I use the starter and battery
 on and don't wanna give then up. It used a belt and pully setup to start.
 Call if any questions.

 Chuck Partain
 shrewsbury (w) 237-3496
 Maynard (home) 897-5386
 

    price reduced in .677 to $300. good fall toy!  
    
    see note .677 for details
    

        I have a 2 meter Spirit that is in good shape with spoilers,
        landing skid, and glassed center section.
    
        I am interested in swapping it for an HLG in equal shape. The only
        stipulation is the HLG has to be able to accept mini servo's and
        a standard size RX. I can make up a battery pack to fit whatever.
    
        If anyone has anything that might fit the bill and would be
        interested in a swap, let me know.
    
        Steve     SNAX::SMITH......225-6200.
    
                   
    
    

    
    WANTED....
      I am looking for a 1/5 scale, "Long-EZ". This is the plane that Burt
    Rutan designed (full scale).
      I went to my local Hobbie shop to order the Cresstline model and he
    said it was discontinued. 
      This plane is to be built as a winter project and to be ready for
    spring. I would consider a scratch built but that would be my last
    choice. 
      Does anyone have a Cressline phone no. I can call??
           I would appretiate any help with this!!
    
    Thanks
    
    Bruce
    P.S. Jim R. if I do a scratch built can you cut the wings for me???
    

    Bruce,
    
    If you find plans, I might even be interested in scratchbuilding one
    myself. No problem doing cores. Send me mail when you find you need
    them. racores@world.std.com
    
    Off to Rhinebeck in 3 hours 8^)

    I called Tower this morning and they gave me Cressline's ph. no.
    I called and got a recording... so some one is home!! Hope they
    call back with good news! Jim, maybe we can make a deal????
    
    Bruce

    the plane in on it's way ordered it from Cressline talked to the
    VP himself. They no longer work with Tower!!!! can you believe it?? 8^)
    He said the wing should be covered with fiberglass??!! for strenght.
    
    bruce
    

    Anyone have a recent Tower's flyer around their desk??  Would you mind
    looking up the current price on a SuperTiger .75 for me?
    
    thanks,
    jeff
    

    Jeff, I don't have a catalog, but I remember that the .75 sells for
    only $30 less than the .90.  From memory:
    
    ST75	$159
    ST90	$189
    
    Sometimes they run a special with $10 off each price.
    
    This information has an 80% probability of being within 10% of the real
    prices.
    
    {What did he say???}
    
    -Joe

    
    
    I have a book in front of me, and the price for a S-75K Ring w/muff
    is.........................................194.99 Tower price.
    
    Bruce
    

    the .90 is 199.99
    
    

    Jeff Friedrichs
    VMSSPT::FRIEDRICHS
    dtn 381-1175
    603-889-4366 (home)


        	FALL CLEARANCE SALE

I have the following items for sale:  Combinations and other offers are 
welcome!  
	ST .75 - New in box - Never run!  Decided to use a different engine
		in a new plane.  $150 (shipping included.  Immediate shipment
		available).  (This is the same price as Towers, however, 
		shipping is included and Towers is currently backordered.)

	OS .25FP - Pratically new.  $50

	OS .25FP - Faily well used.  $25.

    RADIO Gear
    ==========
	Aluminum transmitter case for single transmitter.  Very good condition.
		Listed for $50 at RC Buyers/Towers.  $40.  

	Futaba Conquest TX, FP-R7H RX CH40 AM.  No sticker.   $30
		TX Buddy Box only (TX crystal and battery removed)  $15

    FREE Fuel
    =========    
        Omega 5% fuel - almost 1 gallon
	Cool Power 10% - almost 2 gallons
	Power Blast - About 1.5 gallons

	FREE - All containers have been opened.  I don't want to pour it 
		out, so if you have some use for it, here it is...
	

    john kramarczyk
    MPGS::KRAMARCZYK {Preferred}
    DTN: 237-3430
    
    Hi,
    
    I'm not sure that this is the right notesfile, but my son would like to
    buy a used remote control boat.  Nothing very expensive, being that he's 
    never been involved in anything similar to this in the past.
    
    If I should be asking for this in another file, please just point me in
    the right direction.
    
    Thanks,
              john
             

    > I'm not sure that this is the right notesfile, but my son would like to
    > buy a used remote control boat.  Nothing very expensive, being that he's 
    
    By coincidence, I noticed that Bill Johnson, who owns Fisher R/C in
    Natick, was leaving the auction Sunday with an electric RC boat that
    didn't get sold. It's a fiberglass hull, has two eletric motors and one
    prop, and requires the radio and battery, and possibly some hardware for
    the hull. I think the price was around $70. He was going to put it on
    display in his store. You might want to check with him.
    
    Dave
    

>    By coincidence, I noticed that Bill Johnson, who owns Fisher R/C in
>    Natick, was leaving the auction Sunday with an electric RC boat that

I didn't know Bill Johnson bought Fisher R/C.
Also I haven't found Fisher R/C since it relocated.
Can you give me directions to the new Fisher R/C?

Bye          --+--
Kay R. Fisher  |
---------------O---------------
################################################################################

    
    At our last meeting, Doug Calaway showed a very nice electronic
    scale that he found for about $60...
    
    I am in the market for one and I would be willing to coordinate a 
    group purchase if there were others that wanted one as well...
    
    Please let me know!  Exact details to follow, but in general it goes
    down to (fractions of a??) gram, has a "0" reset, digital display, etc
    and would cost about $60.  
    
    Sending me mail that you are interested does not commit you to
    anything..
    
    cheers,
    jeff
    

What's the top end weight on the scale?

I'd be interested

    No Jim, I don't think it would as a bathroom scale for you :-) :-)
    
    
    
    I do not know..  I couldn't stick around the other night so I am
    trying to catch up with Doug and get it...
    
    cheers,
    jeff
    

hahaha, very funny. I suppose it's a talking scale that would say "one at a
time, please"...

No, a scale capable of going to 10kg is more useful than a scale that only goes
to 1kg

Is it Doug Sprague? I have an email address for him...

    Top end weight is 5 or 10 pounds, depending on model.  Doug bought the
    10 pould model.
    
    Jeff, sign me up for one.
    
    -Joe

    
    Jeff,
    
        I would be interested in one with a ten pound top weight
    
                                                     Dan
    

10 pounder for me as well

    
    "TOOTER"? , and I thought "RANGER" was bad! :)

Gawd, the things (read people) I've got to put up with!

Now you know why I don't use that node in our cluster 8^)

(ranger is down)

      ENYA 80 Four Stroke, new in box. Includes instructions, tools, header
    pipe (No silencer), and remote glow plug harness. Engine has been
    handled but never used.
    
    				$ 225.00
    
    Kenn Evanko - DTN 323-4269
    		  NJMAIL::EVANKO

      Great Planes Trainer-40, New in Box.
    
    			  $50.00 (Includes shipping)
    

    is it still for sale guys?
                                                Roger
                                          DTN#271-3856

    Stand way off scale Eindecker. I belive this is kitted by Dave'y
    system. About a 38" wing span for three channel control. Plane is
    90% complete, includes the cox .074 queen bee engine and props.
    Covered in clear red monokote with the typical white patches and
    black crosses. The engine is brand new, never run, and sells between
    30-40 dollars in the catalog's. I'll take 60.00 dallars or best
    offer.
    
                                                       Jim

    Lin Snow
    GLRMAI::SNOW
    LKG-1 226-7629
    508 448-0473 HOME
    
    FOR SALE, FALL CLEAN-OUT Bargains
    
    This is what's left
    =====================================
    
    Sig Wonder, add 25 size engine and 3-4 channel radio and fly  $65
    
    Champion 45 w/OS40FP, install radio and fly $80
    
    Golberg Electra needs elec motor mount $30

    
			Exceptional Pattern plane for sale
			**********************************


SL1 120 size pattern plane. Complete ready to fly. All you need is your own 
receiver.

The SL1 is sold by RC City, but this particular ship came from the designer
himself. It was professionally built by Irv Searls and flown by Sonny Martel 
for only 1 season. Never damaged and is in outstanding condition. The paint 
and covering on this bird is top notch.

Plane comes complete with:

		YS120AC (only 50 flights)
		FUTABA HIGH END SERVO'S (2 AILERON,ELEV,RUD,THROT.)
		PULL/PULL RUDDER SYSTEM
		B&D RETRACTS
		PLUG IN WINGS
		REMOVABLE STAB
		TANK
		RX BATTERY (1200MAH I THINK)
		SWITCH HARNESS
		WHEELS
		MANY PROFESSIONAL BUILDING OPTIONS TO MAXIMIZE WEIGHT AND
		PERFORMANCE

The cost to have an SL1 built,painted,covered/testflown averages $1750 NOT
including a new YS120AC and everything else that's being left in this plane.

Asking price for all the above is $1500 firm.

Reason for selling.......Sonny has a new plane built every year and he already
			 has his new one.

For what's it's worth, I bought my LA1 from Sonny this past summer and have
seen and flown the SL1. Therefore, I can attest to the integrity of these
ships. (I get nothing from this sale either by the way)

Contact Sonny Martel at.........

		(603)622-9747 (work)
		(603)669-8742 (home)

    Loking for an RC Snowmobile..??..anyone heard of such a thing..my buddy
    claims he saw an add for one in a magizine but he is unable to find 
    it which leaves me to doubt him ....but with rc...all the possiblities
    are there.So if anyone might know of a rig..please reply.
    
                                                  Sincerly,
                                                   Roger
    

I've seen R/C Cars with tracks so I'm sure it's possible but I couldn't tell you
if it is available as a standard kit or if you need to modify a tracked vehicle.

Hi, Folks,
    
    Being the good noter that I am :) :) :) ....  I saw this note in 
    Classified notes and thought I would post it here in the chance that
    one of you folks can help this person.
    
    I was going to reply to him offline and suggest he enter it here, but
    this is a members only conference, right?
    
    Anywho...
    
    Have a good rest of the day...
    
    Lin_who's_everywhere_all_the _time_even_if_she_shouldn't_be!!!
    
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TLE::NOVA::RAITTO "If it goes, it can go faster"     13 lines  11-JAN-1995 13:50
                      -< wanted: beginner's r/c airplane >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jack Raitto

NOVA::RAITTO <-- preferred
DTN 381-2656
Home (603) 456-3605

I am looking for a beginner's r/c airplane.  Gas or rechargable battery.       
Must be at least somewhat resistant to crash damage.  Looking for a
complete setup (plane, engine, radio, etc.).  I can affect some minor 
repairs, but I'm looking for something that is either ready to fly or 
can be made so with no more than a few hours work.

/Jack 

    Well, I finally got the catalog from Doug last night...
    
    The 10lb scale costs $54.95.  It runs off a 9V battery, and will
    measure in 1/10th-oz or 2 gram increments.  It also has "tare" so
    you can zero it with the container...
    
    There are 4 of us interested so far..  I haven't called yet for 
    bulk purchasing, but will ask when I order.
    
    If anyone else wants one, please let me know by Tuesday.
    
    Cheers,
    jeff
    

    Jeff, do they come in 20 lb versions?  I'm starting to build planes of
    more than 10 lbs.  I'm still interested even if they only come in the 10 lb
    size.
    
    Regards,
    Joe

I don't know if it would work but if it has the Tare option Jeff mentions, weigh
the fuselage, zero it, add the wing 8^) I don't think I have any plane PARTS
that are over 10 pounds.

Jim

    Nope, sorry, no 20lb versions....
    Gee Joe, ya gotta cut down on the amount of epoxy you are using!
    
    Joe, please let me know if you are commiting to one or not...
    
    cheers,
    jeff
    

    
       Poor Jeff is getting hit from both sides, I asked him if they made a
    model that is more accuracte than 2 grams, and Joe wants a version that
    goes up to 20 lbs! 
    
       Just goes to prove, "No good dead goes unpunished!" :) 
    

    Just buy 2 and put one under each wheels, you get to 20lb that way
    
    Jacques

    Jeff, I DO want one.
    
    Thanks,
    Joe

Ah good... a commitment to build lighter 8^)

    ANYONE HAS A  USED 60 OR 65 SIZE MARINE ENGINE FOR SALE I HAVE A FRIEND
    LOOKING FOR ONE.
    
    JACQUES
    
    

    Went to BJ's in Auburn last night and they have two scales, 5 and 10
    pound capacities. The 5 pound was around $55 and the 10 pound was about
    $62. The 10 pound was selectable to grams and was up to 5000 grams in 5
    gram incremements and the 5 pounder was by 2 grams up to 2500 (I
    believe). Just another source if people didn't get in on Jeff's order
    (what's the status Jeff and how do these prices compare?)
    
    Jim

    
    We bought 5 of them (although, 2 of them are on backorder though).
    $52.95 each, they paid shipping.
    
    I need to arrange transfer from ZKO to Jim R. and Kevin Carey (in TAY).
    Anyone making the trip??
    
    Cheers,
    jeff
    

    $10 cheaper, good deal. Is the $52.95 the total I owe you? I have a
    buddy I see about once a week that could do the transfer to me and I
    could arrange something for Kevin to get his from LKG. Contact me
    offline and I'll stick a check in the mail and give you the name if you
    want to do it that way.
    
    Jim

	Bob Hester
	225-4390
	YIELD::HESTER

	
	For Sale Tamiya Hornet RC car 

	- Metal ball bearings installed throughout
	- Challenger 260 transmitter
	- includes battery and slow charger
	- Many extra parts included
	- Runs fine

	$80.00

				Bob...
	
    

    FOR SALE:
    
    Robart Helicopter Blade Pitch Meter     $20.00
    Transmitter Tray                        $50.00
    OS32 Heli Head                          $25.00
    
    
    If interested, give me a call at DTN 226-7629 or (508)486-7629 or send
    mail to GLRMAI::SNOW or Lin Snow @LKG
    
    

    Wayne Field
    NEWHUB::WFIELD
    DTN:  226-6243
    
    
    - For Sale -
    
    OS .32 F-H Helicopter Engine - $90
    
    Almost new, has ssen very little use.
    
    Wayne
    
    

    The first batch of German Sailplanes is in.  The prices are as follows
    + UPS shipping.  I can provide some details about these kits if anyone
    is interested.  Also can anyone help me getting this information on the
    internet?
    
    Roke ASK18 - $830
    Krause Discus - $680
    Krause ASW27 - $680
    Krause Salto - $880
    
    The Rodel ASK21 and Roebers Discus kits should be arriving shortly.
    
    To order please contact:
    
    Robin Lehman
    (212)879-1634
                 

    I am looking for a used Badger air brush and compressor.
    Anyone knowing of an exceptionally great bargin...?..please 
    let me know...also...really not alot of helpful hints on
    the art of airbrushing...would like to see some input..old
    or new ideas/tips on it.
                                       Thanks Moderator for this Note,
                                   I found an AWSOME deal in here thanks
                                      too you and everyone involved!
    
                                          Regards/Roger 

				FOR SALE
				********

		 Complete, ready to fly, Dodgson Saber.

The Saber is an open class, 112 inch span full competition glider. It has
a fiber glass fuse and obechi covered, carbon fiber reinforced wings. Wing
is set up with ailerons and flaps. Wing section is the SD7037. Stab design
is full flying.

Fuse is in excellent condition and has never been broken. Has day glo orange
fiber glass hatch cover and day glo orange rudder. Comes with an extra fiber
glass hatch cover and an extra set of stabs. Also comes with Airtronics 94102 
rudder and elevator servo's installed.

Original wing is Obechi over foam with carbon fiber reinforcement. Wing is
covered and trimmed in Monocote. Wings come with Airtronics 94401 mini 
aileron servo's installed and Airtronics 94831 mini metal gear flap servo's 
installed. Right wing panel is perfect, Left wing panel needs to 
have the wing rod/spar box looked at. It appears it may be starting to  break 
loose and will need to be re-epoxied back into the wing. HOWEVER, this deal 
also comes with a complete brand new set of wings. Just like the original, 
they are carbon fiber reinforced, obechi covered, vacuum bagged wings. 
Ailerons and flaps are pre routed and leading edge and wing rod tubes have 
been installed. There is very little left to finishing these wings.

Also included is a dynamite wing carry bag. It is red with black trim and
is made of heavy nylon. It is well padded and has a separate pocket for
the stabs. North East Sailplanes is selling this same wing bag for over $100
dollars. This one even has the name SABER embroidered on the stab pocket.

I'll sell everything listed above for $500 dollars firm.

    WANTED:
    
    Electronic speed control with reverse and BEC..
    
    I have a Kyosho Optima that I have been buying bits and pieces for over
    the years and it is time to get it running.  Richard is finally getting
    old enough to give it a try!
    
    If you have one gathering dust, or perhaps you are thinking of
    upgrading, let me know!
    
    cheers,
    jeff
    

    WANTED:
    
    A friend of mine wants to purchase an RC AEROCHOPPER Flight Simulator.  
    
    Persons interested in selling same should send me mail at:
    
    Chris Spohr @STO or ANGLIN::SPOHR
    
    dtn 445-6577
     

Brooks Cummings
DTN 255-5898
HOME 508-839-7421
PATE::Cummings

  1 Tower hobbies 5 channel radio with all the batteries and 4 servos.

  1 SUPERTIGRE plane engine.

   Both have been used about 6 times.

    BO on both.

				FOR SALE
				********

		 Complete, ready to fly, Dodgson Saber.

The Saber is an open class, 112 inch span full competition glider. It has
a fiber glass fuse and obechi covered, carbon fiber reinforced wings. Wing
is set up with ailerons and flaps. Wing section is the SD7037. Stab design
is full flying.

Fuse is in excellent condition and has never been broken. Has day glo orange
fiber glass hatch cover and day glo orange rudder. Comes with an extra fiber
glass hatch cover and an extra set of stabs. Also comes with Airtronics 94102 
rudder and elevator servo's installed.

Original wing is Obechi over foam with carbon fiber reinforcement. Wing is
covered and trimmed in Monocote. Wings come with Airtronics 94401 mini 
aileron servo's installed and Airtronics 94831 mini metal gear flap servo's 
installed. Right wing panel is perfect, Left wing panel needs to 
have the wing rod/spar box looked at. It appears it may be starting to  break 
loose and will need to be re-epoxied back into the wing. HOWEVER, this deal 
also comes with a complete brand new set of wings. Just like the original, 
they are carbon fiber reinforced, obechi covered, vacuum bagged wings. 
Ailerons and flaps are pre routed and leading edge and wing rod tubes have 
been installed. There is very little left to finishing these wings.

Also included is a dynamite wing carry bag. It is red with black trim and
is made of heavy nylon. It is well padded and has a separate pocket for
the stabs. North East Sailplanes is selling this same wing bag for over $100
dollars. This one even has the name SABER embroidered on the stab pocket.

I'll sell everything listed above for $400 dollars firm, or will trade for
    30 size heli in same shape.

   Note 6.737 was incorrect 


    The radio is a 6 channel gold series system 500 Tower hobbies and 
  
    the motor is a SuperTigre .36.

    I am asking $250 or BO for the pair.

    For Sale:
         - Kalt Baron 50 Helicopoter Completely assembled and ready to go
         - Webra .61 Helo engine
         - JR Circus 6 channel radio (D6c-4sh) 72.710 mhz
         - Flight Box
              - Tower hobbies Deluxe Starter Panel
              - Mark X electric Fuel Pump
              - Glow Plug Clip
         - Royal Heavey duty Starter motor
         - 2 Books on Remote Comtrol Helicopters
    
     This has never been flown!  I have balanced everything and used
     it on a test stand 3 times.
     I have no time for this right now and it is just waiting for a
     pilot.
    
     $300.00 takes it all
    
     Mail  Aimt::DeRome or Call DTN 297-6265 or at home in Littleton MA.
     508-952-2931
    
    thanks
    Don

FOR SALE - well free actually.

I have 3 discount certificates from Pierce Aero Company.

They are good for 50% off list plus $6.00 shipping.
Piece Aero makes three sailplanes:

Gemini MTS - $120 list
Paragon    - $110 list
Ridge Rat  -  $60 list

I have built and flown a Paragon - with 118" wing it came with
a 5 oz wing loading - flew like a gentle lady.  Was a great plane.
Wish I hadn't wiped it out.

Anyway - I've had these certificates from one of Al Ryder's contests for
quite some time and am feeling guilty about it.  These are not latest
greatest state of the art designs but the kits are a pleasure to put
together and fly great.

Sooooo - if anybody wants one or more - send me mail.

Bye          --+--
Kay R. Fisher  |
---------------O---------------
################################################################################

        Andy Fraser
        SPEZKO::FRASER <<===== preferred
        264-3827
        MKO1-2/B9
        
        Previous note  deleted  re gliders - I've been persuaded to get
        back into power  flying  again  and  now  have  a J3 Cub on the
        boards (Goldberg).
        
        Looking for a ~.40 sized trainer to get some stick time and get
        back into the "feel" of flying again while the Cub takes shape.
        Also need engine(s) etc.
        
        Maybe someone you know has  given  up  on  RC aeromodelling and
        wants to sell off a bunch of stuff...?
        
        Andy
        
        

			    BASEMENT CLEAN UP TIME
			    **********************

	Complete, ready to fly, Dodgson Saber.

	The Saber is an open class, 121 inch span full competition glider. 
	It has a fiber glass fuse and obechi covered, carbon fiber reinforced 
	wings. Wing is set up with ailerons and flaps. Wing section is the 
	SD7037. Stab design is full flying.

	Comes with Airtronics 94401 mini aileron servo's, 94831 metal 
	gear mini flap servo's, and Airtronics standard rudder/elevator 
	servo's installed.

	Sale also includes the following: 

	A brand new set of obechi sheeted/carbon fiber reinforced, vacuum 
	bagged wings with very little left to complete.

	Heavy nylon red with black trim wing carry bag.

	Extra set of stabs.

	Extra hatch cover


	Retail aprox. $735

	Sell - $325 OBO
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

	OS 61SF Long Stroke motor. About 2 seasons old. Has had front and
	rear bearings replaced. Has been modified to make it a Hanno Special
	clone. With a pipe, it will spin a 12x11 APC at 11k RPM. Includes
	regular muffler and Snuffler muffler. Original box and papers.
	Excellent condition.

	Retail - $219
	Sell   - $100 OBO
	---------------------------------------------------------------------

	OS 32SF motor. This is a sweet running little POWER HOUSE of a motor
	and has less than a seasons run time on it. It is in absolutely
	excellent condition and comes with original box and papers.

	Retail - $135
	Sell   - $85 OBO
	----------------------------------------------------------------------

	Dave Walter Predator hand launch glider. Ready to fly. Includes 2
	micro servo's, 250ma battery pack. Just drop in your receiver and
	go fly. Also includes THREE wings. The original built up Predator
	wing, a glassed SD7037 foam wing, and a balsa sheeted SD7037 foam
	wing.

	Weight of the Predator with the original built up wing is 15ozs.
	Weight with glassed foam wing is 14ozs using a standard receiver 
	minus the plastic case. You can probably save another ounce with 
	a mini receiver. Weight with the sheeted wing is 16ozs and it would 
	make a good slope wing.

	Sell   -   $75 or best offer.
	----------------------------------------------------------------------

	Eric Henderson designed UNIC. The Unic is a highly aerobatic 46 
	size sport plane. Add your radio and motor and go fly. Sale includes
	2 mini aileron servo's mounted in the wing, engine mount, landing
	gear, wheels and push rods.

	Wing is in brand new condition. Fuse could stand to be recovered
	but is otherwise in excellent condition.

	Sale - $50 or will include Strong running (OS carb) Magnum Pro
		   46 motor for $100.
	

	PREFER NOT TO SHIP...ESPICALLY THE PLANES. So if anyone in the Ma.
	NH. area is interested, give me a call.

	Steve Smith
	SNAX::SMITH
	DTN 225-4341

	NOTE.....From August 6th, thru August 14th, I'll be on vacation so
		 won't respond to EMAIL. Call me at home if your interested
		 in any of the above items.

	(508) 537-8209
                                    

			       AIRTRONICS SERVO
			       ****************



	New in the box 94141 High Torque Ball Bearing Micro servo.

	Tower price = $42.99
	
	Sale price =  $35.00

	Steve Smith
	DTN 225-4341
	SNAX::SMITH

      A friend is currently looking for a YS120 (Broken-in/Used) and wanted to
    know if I could help him out. He hasn't decided on which model yet (AC 
    vs Non-AC). He also mentioned he would be interested in an ENYA 120-R. 
    Pretty tall order, huh ?
    
      If anyone knows of one for sale, please call or write.
    
    Kenn DTN-323-4269  
    

Hi Kenn!

Long time no hear. Hows your boxer going?

      I just moved the box with the cores just the other day now that you
    mention it, if that's any indication of how's it going. You know the 
    drill, to much other stuff to do, not enough time to do it all, and I'm 
    really starting to get pissed off! I know, I know, I'll stop whining.
    
      Anyways, hopefully it (Boxer) will done for the spring, I have everything
     I need for it.
    
    
Kenn
    

>      Anyways, hopefully it (Boxer) will done for the spring, I have 
>      everything I need for it.

Been there, done that. I believe I said the same thing about a certain P-38 in
October of 1990 (yes, I checked the dates and that's when I got the plans)

Jim

    WANTED:
    
    To borrow: The September 1995 issue of Model Builder magazine - or a
    xerox copy of the Jim Petro article covering the Futaba Skysport 6VA
    radio. Apparently the 6VA has some undocumented capabilities that Mr.
    Petro detailed (one of which was elevon capability!).
    
    If you have this issue and wouldn't mind letting me borrow it or
    sending me a copy of the article, please email me at plough::tatosian
    
    Thanks!
    
    /dave

    re: -.1
    
    Dave,
    
    Do you have a 6VA?  I have one (NIB) that I have not installed yet.  I
    have not even gone through the manual yet so I can't give you detailed
    information about its capabilities.  I would be glad to send you a copy
    of the manual if you need it.
    
    If you already have a 6VA and find out more about undocumented
    features, be sure to post it in RC notes.  Enquiring minds want to
    know!
    
    Chris

    Hi Chris.
    
    I bought the 6VA (new) for my son last summer, so we have what passes
    for the manual (a 4-panel double-sided foldout). You can pore through
    it to your heart's content (won't take long ;^) but you won't find the
    information I'm seeking - there's no mention of elevon capability.
    
    I found out that there *is* in fact a way to set this radio up for
    elevons from the person that owns "Quillen Engineering" in Indiana, an
    outfit that sells add-on mixers made from PICs.  A *really* nice guy,
    when I mentioned that I needed one of his mixers to allow a 6VA to
    control a Gremlin (he knew what those were), he told me while he'd love
    to sell me a mixer, he had read an article in Model Builder (he had the
    copy in front of him) that detailed how to set the radio up to do some
    things that the documentation didn't mention - and elevons was one of
    those capabilities.
    
    In fact this guy had bought a 6VA to use on a tail-less glider he was
    building and was expecting to use these undocumented features himself.
    He spent at least 20 minutes on the phone with me discussing both his
    mixers and then relating the details of the magazine article so I could
    set the elevon function up. I did manage to get it working pretty well 
    (at least I *think* so). But apparently there are other things that
    the radio can do that also aren't documented in the manual, so I'd like
    to have a copy of the article to hold on to. 
    
    He knew the author of the Model Builder article and even gave me the
    guys phone number if I needed to speak with him (!) but I'd like to
    have a copy of the article just the same. If nobody here in
    digitalRCland has the issue I'll pick up a newer one and contact their
    back-issue department...
    
    By the way, the mixers this guy is selling don't have the multitude of
    potentiometers that the Christie's apparently have (from what I've read
    in this conference). Strictly chips, with a PIC running the show, and 
    they're pretty versatile from what he was telling me. 1/3rd ounce,
    $29 assembled ($23 for a u-solder-'em kit). 219-759-5298
    
    In any case, this person was one of those rare people that would rather
    be helpful than make an easy buck. If he makes his mixers with the same
    level of care as he conducts his business, they must be pretty fine
    mixers!
    
    Anyway, once I lay my hands on the article I'll post the details
    somewhere in this conference.
    
    Cheers!
    
    /dave

    Dave,
    
    Thanks!  I'll check with my RC buddies here over the next few days
    (club meeting this coming Thursday evening).  The mag you referred to
    is not very popular here so I don't expect to have a lot of luck.  If I
    should find a copy by some small miracle, I'll post a note next Monday
    and make arrangements to get you a copy of the article.
    
    Regards,
    
    Chris
    

    Wanted:
    
    	.45 2-stroke size rc engine.  Its for a MFA Sport 500 Helicopter. 
    Instructions says it has to be "ball race supported crankshaft". 
    OS, ENYA, FOX, ROYAL or THUNDER TIGRE are all listed.  If you have one
    your not using and you want to part with it, please send me mail and a
    price you want for it.  
    
    Thanx,
    
    Chris.....
    ICS::CHRISBELL
    223-7643 

    Looking to swap a "AIR" freq 2 channel Futaba , dry cell
    twin stick, pre 1991 radio for a "Ground freq " radio.
    Would prefer a Futaba, but would concisider other brands.
    
    Send vmail BBOVAX::donaghy
    
    Bob D. in PHH

Jon Maurer
dtn 381-0846 (outside 603.881.0846) Home: 603.880.4611
zeke::maurer or jmaurer@londnr.mv.com

    First, a story: When I moved to the US from the UK, I brought with me
    some  radio control stuff that I'd used with a model helipcopter I'd 
    bought, built, flown and fatally (for the model, and very nearly for 
    me when one of the rotor blades passed within 2 feet of my head at 
    VERY high speed) crashed. Anyway, the items have been stored in my 
    basement and while spring cleaning this weekend, I came across them. 
    Since I have no immediate desire to start R/C modelling again, I  have
    decided to get rid of them. Each item is available separately. Please
    feel free to extract and pass on this note to your RC buddies outside
    of Digital.

1. O.S. Max 28F-H Helipcopter engine with silencer. Used less than
   10 hours total. I have stripped, cleaned, lubed and re-assembled
   the engine, and even put a brand-new glow plug in it, but 
   the piston ring broke while I was removing it. I have tried to 
   locate a replacement without luck. Anyway, the engine is FREE to 
   a good home. If shipment is required, you pay. I work in Nashua 
   and frequently visit LJO, TAY and LKG sites. Delivery to MRO and NQO 
   can be arranged.

2. MacGreggor JR PROPO APEX Series system N7-4SHN Helicopter Radio
   Control in original box with full documentation. Can also be used
   for aircraft and boats, of course. I can send/fax the full specs,
   but here's the high-points: 

	7-channel FM SSS 35MHz RX/TX system. Channel 67 crystal - TX 
          frequency=35.070 MHz
	Receiver
	5 x JR NES 505 Servos
	NiCad pack
	Charger

	Clockwise/Antoclockwise Main Rotor Rotation
	Automatic Tail Compensation (ATS)
	Tail Rotor End Point Adjustment
	Dual rates on Roll and Pitch
	Pitch Curve Adjustment
	Hovering Throttle
	Throttle Hold
	Idle Up

	Note 1: Charger is for UK voltage (220-240v AC, 50/60Hz).
        Replacement for US voltage can be had for about $26 at RC stores,
        but Radio Shack voltage converter may be cheaper. 

	Note 2: This system may not meet current standards (it was
        manufactured before 1991, which I understand marked some kind of a
        frequency std change here in the US), according to the guy I asked
        at RC Warehouse here in Nashua. He tells me that this kind of system
        is still in use, but clubs typically don't like to allow their use 
        due to possible interference with other close-by modeller's equipment.
        Buyer accepts any risk this might create.

	Note 3: Since this system hasn't been used for over 8 years,
        I don't know if it still works. I'll offer a money back
        warranty for 30 days. One positive indication though is that
        the transmitter's battery indicator light does come on for one or
        two seconds after I turn it on even after not having been 
	charged for that long !

	Price ? Make me an offer (I really have no idea what it's 
        worth). I'll also throw in a book about flying model 'copters.

3. Power Panel, glow plug connector and leads, 12v 6.5AH battery and
   a Kalt 150cc fuel tank with fittings. The control panel takes power
   from the battery, will feed power to the glow plug (has two
   positions - normal and hi-amp plug), power to the starter (see item
   4), and also has switch positions to fill and drain a model's fuel
   tank via an internal pump. The battery appears to be completely dead
   (may just need charging from a 12v trickle-charger), but the control
   panel itself, including the pump, seemed to be working just fine
   just now when I tested it with my car battery. With operating 
   instructions.

   Price $20 ono. 

4. High-power SS6 Model Engine Starter (12v). Good for model cars, boats, 
   airplanes and helicopters.

   Price $20 ono.

5. Kalt helicopter rotor blade pitch gauge. Good for rotor blades between
   1 3/4" and 2 1/2" leadinf to training edge. Adjustment range of -5 to
    +10 degrees on main gauge. User instructions lost, but it's pretty
    obvious how it works.

   Price $15 ono.

    Pam Gladding
    TPSYS::GLADDING
    227-3890
    Home:  508-345-0877 <-- preferred after 5:00 p.m.
    			    weekdays or anytime weekends
    
    I'm putting this ad in for my husband.
    
    Great Planes CAP 21 kit.  New in box.  72" wing span.  Good for
    intermediate to experienced flyer.  Asking $75.00.

For Sale:
55" fiberglass Scarab with OS .61 motor, IH outdrive, 3ch. Futaba radio
Have another motor (OS .61), outdrive and other parts.
$700 OBO

Harry Heinisch
PKO3
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

    John Ellis
    ASDG::Ellis
    225-4251
                  
                     Wanted trainer plane 40 or larger also sea plane.
    

    I recently received a bunch of coupons from Great Planes.  Most of them
    are $0.25 or $0.50 off of this and that.  
    
    However, the 2 "big" coupons are $5.00 off a Great Planes Corsair and
    $5.00 off a G.P. Lear Jet .40.
    
    If anyone is planning on buying either of these, let me know and I will
    send you the coupon..
    
    Cheers,
    jeff
    

My 14 year old son would like to get into R/C flying. We looked at ARF
sailplanes/gliders with electric motors at RC Buyers Wearhouse and in
the Tower catalog. I'd like to start him off without a major investment
but not waste money on a single or 2 channel radio incase he likes it
and wants to progress. 

Anyone looking to sell a 3 or 4 channel radio ??    

let me know....

Randy Stuart
244-5434
AKOCOA::STUARTR

    
    New, not even broken in YS120NC with after market air chamber. 25
    runs on motor. Air Chamber adds 500 RPM. Owned by our own Eric
    Henderson.
    
    Reason for selling......Eric currently owns 3 YS120SC'S, the new OS140,
    and the new YS140. In short, he's got enough motors to hover his HOUSE
    if he wanted to. So he's selling the NC. I have one of these and it's
    an extreamly reliable powerful motor.
    
    $300 dollars firm
    
    If interested, call Eric at (609) 222-9387 evenings

    
    John Ellis
    ASDG ::Ellis
    225-4251
    
    I have a used OS 40FS 4 stroke I have it on a Cub and would like to
    by a larger engine. I will sell it for 70.00 dollars or best offer.
    I also have an older Sato 30 with external push rods that I have no 
    use for and I will let that go for 25.00.

    John Ellis
    asdg ::Ellis
    225-4251
    
                                  70.00
    
       OS 40fs four stroke 

    
    John Ellis
    asdg::Ellis
    225-4251
    
    
    I am looking for a set of wheels for my plane 5 inch or 
    larger. Does any one have a set they would like to sell. 
    
    John

    
    John Ellis
    ASDG::Ellis
    225-4251
    
    
    I have a Walt Mocha on floats W/OS 40FP with Futaba AM radio and servos
    ready to go. 150.00
    
    I have a 80" gentle flying arobatic W/61 Irvine and Futaba AM radio and
    servos ready to go. 175.00  
    
    The radios all have AMA Gold tags. 
    

    
    John Ellis
    ASDG::Ellis
    225-4251
    
    Wanted 4 stroke 120 size.