Conference vmszoo::rc

    well, from the little flying that was done with my plane with the
    engine at full bore, we found 1, it really moves and 2, it does knife
    edges in the groove. Charlie Nelson a 4-point roll with it and it
    whet through the figure stable as a rock. The peanut gallery was
    chuckling about the "rocket" powered CUB.
    
    As far as noise is concerned, you will find that the CUB is usually
    flown at 1/3 to 1/2 power which quiets it down real good. My HP40
    sounds like a 4S in that range. I use full power when doing loops
    and such things..
    
    If you haven't flown all that much or flown planes of this size, I
    would recommend the full length wing with a engine with plenty of
    power.I prefer a 2S myself. A FOX 40-45-50 is a good bet. The HP40
    is real good for it but its a tad expensisve and a bitch to put
    in 'cause of the rear intake. 
    
    The plane is very stable and very forgiving. 

    oh yeah, put 10X6W REVUP prop on it.

    
    have fun
    
    md

    You can also buy a wing kit separate from the main kit for about
    $19. I built mine with the standard wing, and bought the clipped
    wing later. It flies nice with the clipped wing, and really floats
    with the standard.
    
    For fun, I modifed the clipped wing for flaps, and had to shortened
    the alierons to get them to fit. It's still very responsive, and
    the flaps help slow it down a little for landings, etc.
    
    As far as the plane is concerned, I like it best out of all the
    ones I own, and I just ordered another one. The current one is
    starting to show its age.....
    
    	Steve
    

    Aaawriiight Aaawriiight Aaawriiight !!!! 
    
    I tried the muffler.. It won't fit in the CUB..The exhaust would
    have to got through the battery pack !!. I need at lest a 1" extension
    to have it drop below the bulkhead.. I've spent $50 on mufflers
    for this sucker.. The only the I found that would fit in the cowl
    was the J-tec.. 
    
    ANyone care to help me further ??
    
    tx,,
   
    
    md

    
    
    	I HOPE ITS A 4-STROKE !
    
    		MY GODBERG CUB WAS MY SECOND PLANE AND MY FIRST AILERON
    PLANE. WITH THE FULL WING , IT TAKES OFF AND FLIES LIKE A KITTEN.
    LEARNING TO TAKE OFF A TAIL DRAGGER IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT ,BUT
    ONCE IN THE AIR , THE CUB HANDLES LIKE A DREAM. IF YOUR SWITCHING
    FROM A TRAINER TO THIS ONE, YOU WILL FIND LANDING TO BE LIKE NIGHT
    AND DAY. IT'S NOT JITTERY LIKE A LIGHT-WEIGHT TRAINER AND LANDS
    AS GENTLE AS EVER. I PUT A OS FS.90 FOUR-STROKE IN MINE, IT'S UNGODLY
    OVERPOWERED, RAN A PIPE OUT THE SIDE MOUNTED ENGINE , AND HAVE HAD
    GOOD LUCK WITH INVERTED FLIGHT (NEEDS SOME DOWN BECAUSE OF HIGH
    WING AND SEMI SEMMETRY).
    
    				 HOPE YOU HAVE A BALL WITH YOURS!
    
    						CARL

CARL

i WiLl SuRe Be GlAdE wHeN yOu GeT a TeRmInAl WiTh BoTh UpPeR aNd LoWeR cAsE
cHaRaCtErs.

Bye
Kay R. Fisher

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    Well you can't blame me for trying . it was my first day on Notes!!!
    
    P.S.    Any better???????
    
    
    						Carl
    

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Great - welcome aboard Carl.  Keep us posted on the details of the
Corsair - something that's on everyone's wish list.

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    	Thanks for the welcome Kay . I will keep you informed about
    the Corsair .Look for a new Notes file on updates , questions ,
    and construction progress on this bird .
    
    						C U later ,
    
    							Carl
    

    I need help on the motor, and I'll tell you a story. I called up my 
    hobbie dealer to percase a Sig Cub BECAUSE I like cubs and I wanted
    to put my OS .40 on it. The man said he has three on the way and I 
    couldn't wait. When I arived to get the Sig cub to my suprise it was
    the CG anniversary cub. Well I didn't want to wait and I heard alot
    about the plane so I bought the CG cub. Now the question I want to 
    ask is What can I expect from the OS .40 what prop shout I use? Has
    anyone seen a CG cub fly with an .40. I am a beginner I don't do the
    fancy stuff yet.
    
    Thanks 
    Bruce
    

    Bruce,
    	I think that the OS40 FP is not quite enough motor for this plane. 
    Also, you will probably have to add nose weight to compensate for the
    light engine.  It will fly, but you will have no reserve power to get
    out of trouble.  I flew one with a 40 FP on it and a rearward CG and it
    was not easy to handle.  I was lucky to get it back on the ground in
    one piece.
    
    Charlie
    

    As usual, Charlie is being modest. He was D*MN lucky to get it
    back on the ground.
    
    Steve

    
    OK, you've sold me I DO have an old K+B .61 with the Perry carb. I was
    saving this to put in my Sig Ryan STA I guess I'll have to wait a while
    before I can fly my Ryan. ( has anyone thought of putting a carb. below
    the cylinder head you know for inverted engines would be great for
    primeing.)
    
    Has anyone used the wing struts? These are for show I presume. Do they
    fall off in flight?
    
    I'm thinking about putting heat shrink tubing on the landing gear main
    strut then cover one side of the skirt with fabric, wrap the fabric
    around the tubing then finish the skirt with the fabric on the back
    side. Has anyone had success with this or some other method? I do like
    scale and I'd like to keep it as scale looking as possible. 

  The wing strut on the CG Cub are non-functional.  I never got around to 
putting them on mine.

  I also never got a chance to do anything with the landing gear.

  It's a nice plane, but it's really tough to fix broken plywood. Especially
when the largest piece is about the size of a dime!  At least with my Kadet I
was able to buy a load of 1/4 sticks and rebuild the fuselage from scratch.


                     Jim

    	
    	I built mine with wing struts, and over the last few years 
    have not had one come off yet. And just to be adventurous, I bought
    a spare wing kit and built the short wing version, and these struts
    also have never come off. I used a O.S. 90 four stroke, so I can't
    help you with the power, although your K&B .60 sounds like it would
    do the trick.
    
    		Carl

    I have a question about building the C.G. Cub.  I want to know if the 
fuselage can be built without the engine.  I have a OS 40 FP but I want to 
build the Cub with a OS FS-91 Surpass.  My question is can/should I build
the fuselage without the engine or should I build it with the OS 40 and 
make what ever changes are needed when I purchase the FS-91 Surpass.




Hogie

    Hogie,
    
    It's perfectly alright to build the fuse without an engine...up to a
    point.
    
    You should leave things rather unfinished around the firewall/cowl
    area, i.e. you can mount but don't cut out the cowl; you can install an
    aluminum (or glass-filled) engine mount but don't drill/tap it; you can
    fuel-proof the firewall area with epoxy or polyester resin but don't
    paint anything, etc., etc.  When you have the engine in hand, correctly
    locate the engine, drill/tap the mount and install it; cut out and fit 
    the cowl around the engine; do any exterior details that were left like
    dummy engine, etc. (actually, the dummy engine might be doable before
    you have the .91 Surpass), then prime and paint.
    
    In my opinion, unless you want/intend to actually fly with the .40,
    you'd be wasting your time building the plane around it.  Virtually
    nothing, e.g. cowl cutout(s), engine mounting holes, etc. for the .40
    will match up for the .91 and you'll wind up up having to fill holes,
    replacing motor mount, repainting, etc. when you install the .91.
    
    I'd build as much as possible, leaving things dependant on the engine
    go 'til last, then finish up after getting the engine, if it were me.
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    Al is certainly correct, you *can* build a plane without the engine.
    
    However, in the cub (I am just finishing mine up) the entire fuse 
    boxes together and you get it all square and neat and put together,
    then you hit all the joints with glue...  I would think that you would
    seriously jeopordize a straight fuse by putting the firewall steps off
    till later.
    
    In addition, there is an optional spacer that is placed on the
    firewall, depending on the engine/mount...  Before you decide to put
    that on or note, you must have the engine in your hands.  This will
    make switching engines, (especially 2c to 4c) very risky in terms of
    fit.
    
    Overall, I would not recommend it.
    
    But - The actual firewall prep only takes a short while (considerably
    less than an evening).  Perhaps you could borrow a .91 from a friend or
    even the store that you bought the kit from.  Or, if that doesn't work,
    take the instructions, plans, mounts and firewalls to the store and do
    it right there..  I have not gone near the plane with the engine since
    the initial setup.  I am installing radios and fuel systems now, so I
    just attached it...  But the entire plane is built.
    
    Feel free to ask more questions...  I just went through all of this...
    
    cheers,
    jeff
    

>build the Cub with a OS FS-91 Surpass.  My question is can/should I build
>the fuselage without the engine or should I build it with the OS 40 and 
>make what ever changes are needed when I purchase the FS-91 Surpass.

Hogie - I think most of these OS engines NOW come with a template that you
can use for measuring (in both directions?).  Anyway I have a brand new
OS .91 four stroke and I will check tonight for one.  If there is one
I will copy it and mail it to you.  If not then you can ask for
critical dimensions.  I assume that you have put a note in 4.* and left
your DEC mail stop.

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Good news Hogie - I just copied the top view template for the .91 Surpass
and also OS supplied a spec sheet for all their engines that includes every
dimension you could ever need and the weight.  I also copied that and
will mail them off to you.

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    Kay,
    
        Thanks for the good news.  Now I can finish my winter project which I 
    should have finished by now.  
    
    
    Hogie
    

    OK, previous cub owners, would you care to enlighten us about how you 
    ran the fuel lines and pressure lines??
    
    With the cowl on, it will be impossible to get to the fuel line to
    detach and fill through.  Did you (are you) use a "quick fill" of some
    sort??  Where did you mount it??
    
    Where did you run your vent line so that you know when the tank is
    full??  Or do you rely on the fact that you can see the tank in the
    cockpit??
    
    I have thought about different combinations, I jst want to know what
    works better than others..
    
    thanks!
    
    jeff
    

Buy any one of the remote fuelers available and install it in the fuselage
side somewhere. This allows you to fuel up without needing to remove the
cowl. Robart and Dubro make good remote fuelers. I used a Robart Super Fueler
installed under the forwardmost side window on the right hand side.

Randy

    RE: .21
    
    Kay,
    
        I got the template in the mail today.  I just wanted to thank you
    again, I should be done with it early in the Spring.
    
    Hogie