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Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

801.0. "biplanes for intermediate flyers" by KYOA::GAROZZO () Mon Dec 12 1988 13:07

     I am an experienced builder (if 7 kits qualify me as such) and
    now want to get into bi-wings. From the advertisements it looks
    like the following;
     
    	Great Planes Super Aeromaster
             "       Bipe 40
        Balsa USA    pheton 90
        Topflight    Hot Kanary
        Sig          Skybolt
    
    I am a good intermediate flyer, can do some acrobatics. If you have
    any info on these to help me make a decision I would be most thankful.
    
    Regards
    Bob G.
    
     
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801.1My 2c worthCURIE::ANKERAnker Berg-SonneMon Dec 12 1988 13:3555
        Re:< Note 801.0 by KYOA::GAROZZO >

>    	Great Planes Super Aeromaster
        
                Lot's of  discussion on the Aueromaster in this file.  Do
        a SEARCH AEROMASTER  first and then SEARCH and you will get taken
        through all notes that  discuss  it.  I love mine (actually not a
        SUPER Aeromaster, but the original)  and  recommend  it to anyone
        who can fly a low wing sports plane competently.

>             "       Bipe 40
        
                It's strange, but I have only  seen  one  of  these.  The
        Super Sportsters are wonderful planes and I would expect the bipe
        to be great too.  Maybe the problem  is one of size.  A .40 sized
        bipe is really very small.  I would recommend  something  in  the
        .60 size and up.
        
>        Balsa USA    pheton 90
        
                Not  familiar with this.  I have just built a  Balsa  USA
        EAA bipe and found it easy to build, but with lower  quality wood
        than  you would expect.  As for flying it's on the bench  getting
        repaired  after  crashing  in  20  to 30 knot winds on the maiden
        flight +1.
        
>        Topflight    Hot Kanary
        
                Zippo knowledge.
        
>        Sig          Skybolt

                I started  building  one  and  hated it.  The formers are
        little sticks that  you  cut yourself and the fuselage sides have
        to be cut out. It flies well and is the right size.
        
                My  recommendation  is  the    Aeromaster   modified  and
        strengthened as recommended elsewhere.
        
                Mine is with an O.S.  .91 FSR engine in it and flies like
        a champ.  I have never flown with constant throttle movement, but
        this plane requires it.  There's something to be said for a plane
        that you can point skyward, give full throttle and just see it go
        up,  and  up,  and  up,  and up until you  decide  it  better  do
        something different.
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             Anker      \_|_/
801.2Aeromaster = 217.* & 374.*K::FISHERKick the tires, light the fires, and GO!Mon Dec 12 1988 14:5414
>>    	Great Planes Super Aeromaster
>        
>                Lot's of  discussion on the Aeromaster in this file.  Do
>        a SEARCH AEROMASTER  first and then SEARCH and you will get taken
>        through all notes that  discuss  it.  I love mine (actually not a
>        SUPER Aeromaster, but the original)  and  recommend  it to anyone
>        who can fly a low wing sports plane competently.

The Aeromaster notes are 217.* and 374.* (found by DIR/Title=Aeromaster).

Bye          --+--
Kay R. Fisher  |
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801.3Phaeton 90SNOC01::BROWNTONYTony Brown Sydney, AustraliaMon Dec 12 1988 18:029
    Re: Phaeton 90
    
    One of our club members has one of these with an OS FS120.  It flies
    very well and I love seeing a biplane of this size in the air. 
    More graceful and realistic.  Highly recommended if you like that
    style of flying.  No idea of the kit quality.
    
    Tony
    
801.4HOT CANARY APTLY NAMED.....!!PNO::CASEYATHE DESERT RAT (I-RC-AV8)Mon Dec 12 1988 20:4213
    Somewhere within this file there's a short discussion on thte Hot
    Canary...Use SEARCH to find it.  In short, the ship is aptly named;
    it's hot, ultra responsive and unforgiving.  This ship would definitely
    *NOT* be for the feint-hearted or inexperienced pilot as it will
    eat yer' lunch at the first mistake or inadequacy.
    
    I highly second Anker's recommendation of the Aeromaster.    

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      | |      00	 Adios,      Al
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      |    Z__(O_\_	(The Desert Rat)

801.7Don't forget Ace!!TOWNS::COXSo Speedy, how do we get zeez brains?Wed Dec 14 1988 16:3113
    If you're looking for a first Bipe, I'd recommend one of the ACE 4/XX
    biplanes.  I have a 4/40 with an O.S. fs-40 four stroker in it.  It
    handles great on the ground and flys even better!!
    
    My only regret is that it is a small plane.  If I had it to do over I
    would have bought the 4/120 biplane.  They are easy to build; there are
    no interplane struts, most of the construction is lite ply and there is
    plenty of room for equipment.
    
       --|--             Happy (con)Trails!
        (O)             
________/ \_______       Scott Cox
    
801.8I second Scott's recommendationCURIE::ANKERAnker Berg-SonneWed Dec 14 1988 16:4812
        Re:< Note 801.7 by TOWNS::COX "So Speedy, how do we get zeez brains?" >

                I endorse  Scott's recommendations.  My first bipe was an
        ACE 4/40 and  it was just great.  As a matter it was so good that
        I thought I was  real  good  and  ready  for something hot, which
        eventually got me into trouble.
        
                I also endorse Scott's second recommendation.  The bigger
        the better.  Price doesn't go  up  as  much  as  flying  ability,
        repairability and just pure enjoyment. Go BIG.
        
        Anker
801.9my first bipeAKOV12::COLLINSMon Apr 24 1989 18:1115
    	I decided that I won't try a bi-plane. ACE has come out with
    a new size of thier bipe. the ACE 4-60/90. I ordered it last week
    from OmniModels. 
    
    	It has a 58" top wing and a 52" bottom wing
    
    	I haven't gotten the engine yet. I'm thinking of going with
    the O.S. Surpass 91.(if the budget can stand it).
    
    	Does anyone know of a good, inexpancive 4-cycle? This is also
    my first 4-cycle.
                              
    
    
    Norm
801.11Give it Some ThoughtLEDS::WATTTue Apr 25 1989 11:5610
    I'm happy with my OS91 Surpass.  I would not recommend anything but an
    OS or Enya 4-stroke.  Both are very pricey compared to an equivalent
    2-stroke.  They are more complicated and require more fiddling to make
    them run right also.  If you like to tinker (I do) then go with a
    4-stroke for the great sound and good pulling power but if you are not
    into engines, I'd go with a 2-stroke.  You can't beat the simplicity of
    a 2-stroke.
    
    Charlie
    
801.12re:: engines PAKORA::SFRANKLYNSat Aug 08 1992 17:1611
    HI.
    	Just spent some time down at a show in the uk called
    	WOODVALE. And checked out some very cheap 2 strokes 
    	from  A.S.P. I picked up a .91 for just under 55 pounds
    	The whole range was very well priced.
    	I also bought a WOTS WOT bipe and a few other bits and bobs 
    	if any one has built the Wots wot i would be gratefull of 
    	some tips,if any 
    
    		cheers 
    			steve