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Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

1266.0. "Possible uses for Old Wide Band Receivers" by KAY::FISHER (Stop and smell the balsa.) Wed Nov 14 1990 15:18

Here is a thought.

If you don't trade in your rx and you feel guilty chucking it
in the garbage - maybe we can make some use of it.

Suppose we make a cute plastic box for it with a button
and a meter (or LED) such that we can use it to test for
our frequency being clear?  In this context an OWB AM
might be considered a asset.  Be for you get up off your
lawn chair and wander over to the frequency board you just
push a button and say - "Hmmmmmm - looks like my frequency
is clear!"  Also it looks as tho no paging systems are no.

But don't stop here guys.  Perhaps there are some other uses
for a 72 MHz receiver.

Any good ideas?

Anybody know how to hook a CHEAP meter (or LED) to the Rx
such that it indicates relative received signal strength.
It ought to run forever on one 9 Volt battery?

Bye          --+--
Kay R. Fisher  |
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1266.1SA1794::TENEROWICZTWed Nov 14 1990 16:0913
    you could make yourself a chopper trainer!!
    
    Mount four servos sideways on a piece of ply and suspend a second
    piece of plywood app. 1' square above on four small pushrods.
    Add a small lip to the edge of the 1' square and connect the four
    servos to the RX. Two to ailerons and two to elevator. place a 
    ball bearing (ball) on the 1" table and you're off. The idea would
    be to keep the ball centered by moving the controls. You could use
    it at home with the antenna down. This shouldn't pose any problems
    with your neighbors.
    
    
    Tom
1266.2old wideband receiver applicationGENRAL::KNOERLEWed Nov 14 1990 17:0414
    If you have a cirquit describtion of your receiver connect the
    voltmeter to the output of the AGC cirquit of your HF signal path 
    and you'll get the (usually) inversed signal strength.
    
    To use old receivers as a watchdog for your frequency build a small
    speaker amplifier and connect it to the output of your LF cirquit
    just before the Amplifier that goes into the demodulator of your
    AM receiver. If you got a FM receiver connect it to the output of the
    FM demodulator. You'll get an accoustical signal of what happens on
    your frequency and (because wideband) besides.
     
    
    Bernd
    
1266.3WRASSE::FRIEDRICHSwinded in at ASHWed Nov 14 1990 18:1915
    Gee, how hard would it be to make a sniffler-like device??  
    
    Or how about a ground based flight recorder??  It receives, decodes
    and records all of the commands that you gave your plane.  This
    recording could then be down loaded to your favorite flight simulator
    for a playback of your flight...  It could also be analyzed by a 
    program to chart each control movement over time.  We could show people
    just how little they use the rudder!!  
    
    Gee, if I had one of these I could at least prove it was not pilot
    error that led to the demise of the SS-40!
    
    cheers,
    jeff
    
1266.4What do you mean old wide band?GENRAL::LUNTDave Lunt DTN 522-3527Fri Jan 11 1991 23:0213
Hoooold on there bob-a-louie!  What do you mean 'old wide band' (72Mhz)?

I admit that its been a few years since I've been into RC...But my radio,
a Cannon 3 ch, 72.96Mhz (I think), still works fine.  Whats up?  Did the
bands change?  I have noticed the RC cars (fancy dirt racers) I bought for
the boys were in the 50's and 27s (Mhz).  The 27Mhz range I remember, but I 
don't remember a band in the 50Mhz range.

The reason I ask is because I was planning to repair a .15 size trainer and
see if the boys liked flying.  I would of course use my old radio.....so what's
up???

DAVE
1266.5you are an [unwiting] antique collectorABACUS::RYDERperpetually the bewildered beginnerSat Jan 12 1991 10:2116
re Note 1266.4     by Dave Lunt -< What do you mean old wide band? >-

>>  But my radio .... 72.96Mhz (I think), still works fine.  
>>  Did the bands change?  

    Yup.  Please read 13.* and then 11.0, 11.1, and 2.* in about that order.

    Welcome aboard; this file will help you re-enter the hobby.  The file
    itself should be thought of as a giant book with a superb index and a
    poor table of contents.  The [keyword] index is up-to-date, detailed,
    and very helpful.

    We suggest that you link up with a current RC'er for help in re-entry. 
    Note 4.* will point to several in Colorado Springs.

Alton Ryder, moderator and housekeeper
1266.6ELMAGO::TTOMBAUGH20/20 Vision&amp;walkin'round blindMon Jan 14 1991 12:498
    re  .4
    
    72.960 mhz (yellow/white) is one of the old freqs. specifically
    not allowed for present airborne RC use. Sorry.
    ^^^
    
    Terry
    
1266.7It's easy to find Rx audioSNDPIT::SMITHSmoking -&gt; global warming! :+)Mon Jan 14 1991 16:4116
    Hi again, Kay!
    
    To answer your question (at least about the FP-R017N FM reciever, which
    I had apart over the weekend to get my RS-232 link working over it),
    open the receiver, and run a wire from pin 9 of the FM IF chip (the one
    closest to the antenna) to what would be the PWM pin of the "battery"
    connector.  Close it up and youhave access to the demodulated FM.  Run
    that thru a lowpass filter (8.2K ohms in series, .01 uF to ground) and
    you have audio, which can be used to drive an amplifier and speaker.
    
    If anyone is worried about opening the module, bring it by LTN1 and
    I'll do it for free, it's only a couple minutes work.  I also found the
    8th channel in that receiver(!), but I don't know how to make the
    transmitter send an 8th channel...
    
    Willie