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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

187.0. "Mass. Pheasant Stocking Cuts" by PCCAD1::RICHARDJ (Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection) Fri Jul 29 1988 12:38

    My wife was talking with Dave Williams, supervisor of the High Ridge
    game managment area, on rt140 in Gardner, Mass. My wife does volunteer
    work there and so she knows Dave and the others that work for the
    Fish and Game Department. I asked her to ask Dave about the pheasant
    stocking for this fall, because with the Mass. budget mess we have,
    I'm worried about the up comming fall hunting season going to hell.
    Well my worries, have come true. He said that High Ridge, and Birch
    Hill managment areas are being phased out of the stocking program.
    Hubardston and Bare will remain, but the departments budget is being
    cut so badly, that they may have layoffs, resulting in less stocking.
    
    It cost money to stock pheasants, as you all know. With Dukakis
    taking the money form the Fish and Game department to balance his overspent
    budget, you can expect a lousy stocking program this fall. 
    
    In other budget cuts, we talked to Dave about motor boat violations,
    on the lake I live on. He said that the departments budget was reduced
    so that, the officer in charge of boating law enforcement Mariam
    Larson is limited to traveling 30 miles per day. That means from
    her office to my lake is 30 miles one way, which means she would
    have to sleep there and travel back the next day. What erks me is
    I just renewed my boat registration, and the fee went from $10.00
    to $20.00. This money is not used for the Department of Recreational
    Vehicles use, but its put into other Dukakis programs that have
    blown the budget. 
    
    I guess I,m going to train my dog towards grouse hunting, it looks
    more promissing.
    
    Jim
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187.1Yeah that's it.BTO::REMILLARD_KMon Aug 01 1988 15:286
    
    Sounds like priorities in Mass. are making the Duke look good at
    the expense of everything.  Hey I have an idea, with a record like
    that, let's....make him president or something. :^(
    
    Kevin
187.2FED-UPNEBVAX::PAPPALARDOCLEVER PHARSE.Mon Aug 01 1988 16:0327
    
    Here We go Again ! Seems the State always screws the F&G Dept. We
    the Sportsmen Pay for Pheasant Stamps which is suppose to be for
    the raising and stocking of birds. Not to pay for some unrelated
    program. I'm surprised this has'nt been brought up and fought by
    You MASS people, Or maybe you are but it seems to be hush,hush.
    
    In New Hampshire, in 1959 the sate took 12 million from our F&G
    and put the money into High-Ways, we have NEVER recovered.
    
    And who pays:  WE DO!
    
    And who SUFFERS: WE DO, THE GAME DOES!
                                     
    
    I can't for the life of me understand how this can happen with-out
    a legal battle. The money is from hunters buying stamps. How the
    Hell can they use that money. Don't tell me the state gives a certain
    amount of cash for F&G because I don;t belive it ! The money is
    from US the Sportsman and maybe from the FEDS too, but that to is
    mostly from US or sportsman organizations.        
    
                  
                                            Fed- Up
    
    
                                              Rick.....
187.3We don't have one...yetDELNI::G_FISHERMon Aug 01 1988 17:5011
    re: .2

    I think you may be mixing 2 states up. The author of note .0 was
    referring to Mass. You must be referring to New Hampshire. Mass.
    does not have a stamp to hunt pheasant, although if all this is
    true...there may be more calls for one here. 
    
    We discussed a stamp some where here in this notes file awhile ago...I
    think.
    
    Guy
187.4Re: .3NEBVAX::PAPPALARDOCLEVER PHARSE.Mon Aug 01 1988 18:3331
    
    I thought Mass had a stamp. Maybe not. But it still does not justify
    the state sticking there fingers in the candy jar where it does
    not belong. Isn't true all funds that go to run the MASS. F&G comes
    from the sale of hunting and fishing lic. State Duck stamps, excise
    tax on hunting and fishing equipment and some federal funds from
    the Robertson- Pittman act.
    
    And if all these funds are pooled together from all of the above,then
    how do we know if they are for example scimming from sales of
    STATE,Duck Stamps or any of the others.
    
    I don't want to start a long debate but, Why, Why always the sportsman.
    
    You would think this would be a common-sence area. "Hands Off of
    F&G funds period. 
    
    The dept is always running in the red, as far as wardens go there
    is plainly not enough to enforce the game laws. You read and hear
    of the storys each fall that come from that state,
    poaching,trespassing, shooting on paved roads,from cars, I'm not
    saying other states don't have there problems but MASS can not afford
    to lose one cent that we law going and good ethic hunters put in
    every year to keep the slob hunter in line as well as healthy game
    herd or flock. The cost of a lic. seems to go up and up and WE pay,
    why? because all of us that hunt say "Well the price has gone up
    again, but its for a good cause. Now when there is a price increase
    what are we to think that we are paying for some roads or welfare
    crap or whatever the unrelated expence.
    
                                         Rick.
187.5Self Supportive!BIGALO::MAHANEY_MIKETue Aug 02 1988 09:112
           In Maine the F&G is the only SELF supportive State agency with
    no funds taken from or GIVEN to.