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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

396.0. "You have the right to keep and bear ONE gun..." by ODIHAM::PHILPOTT_I (Col. Philpott is back in action...) Tue May 16 1989 13:00

    
    Placing tongue firmly in cheek... the second amendment of the US
    Constitution grants Americans (and possibly non-Americans who happen
    to live there) the right to keep and bear arms.
    
    It could be argued however that it doesn't precisely grant the right
    to keep and bear unlimited numbers of arms...
    
    So, I was musing the other night... what if a law was passed limiting
    Americans to a single gun each.
    
    Which hunting rifle or shotgun would you keep, after you had
    surrendered all the others to the police?
                                  
    /. Ian .\
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396.1DrillingGIAMEM::J_AMBERSONTue May 16 1989 14:237
      Good topic Ian,  I think I would keep (actually buy) a drilling
    of some type.  Perhaps a 12ga.side-by-side with a .270 or 30-06
    over it.  With the proper loads  I could hunt most anything with
    in reason.  Of course carrying that combo while hunting upland birds
    all day might prove to be tiresome.
    
    Jeff
396.2Makes for a "boney" gun cabinetATEAM::AYOTTETue May 16 1989 15:2116
    Well Ian you've certainly painted a bleak scenerio here.  I'll assume
    that I can't upgrade (go out and buy a new gun... put all the eggs
    in one basket), and I'll also assume that my wife and kids couldn't
    allow me to borrow their "assigned" gun.  I'd have to pick the Remington 760
    pump rifle in 30-06.  It fits a lot of my requirements i.e., fast
    action (quick as an auto-loader), good accuracy (strong bolt and
    free floated barrel), very dependable (never jams), 5 or 11 shot
    capacity (but not labelled an assault rifle), and good energy (fine
    application for most North American game animals and provides good
    backup for the family shepard if he bits off more than he can chew).
    
    Its not the best of anything but thats what makes it a great all around
    gun.
     
    Dave
     
396.3ODIHAM::PHILPOTT_ICol. Philpott is back in action...Tue May 16 1989 16:1428
    
    A little background: "only one gun" laws exist, I believe in Europe
    (Scandinavia?), and have been mooted for England. Interchangeable
    barrel guns like the Valmet 412S rifle/combo/double shotgun and
    the Sako Triace multi-calibre target pistol, are the result of these
    laws.
    
    This topic was prompted by a roundup of US news on British TV this
    morning that concluded with the phrase "new legislation is planned
    to reduce or eliminate the vast arsenals of unnecesary firearms in
    the hands of hunters and target shooters in the US" - the source of
    the material, if not the actual editorial wording was CNN and CBS...
    anyway I don't want to go down a political rathole (though I have
    a favorite gun for political rats too :-))
    
    I'll answer my own question: I'd go for the Valmet 412S in a suitable
    combination for my hunting. If they'd let me have multiple barrel
    sets (and not count that as more than one gun) then I'd have a double
    12-gauge for birds, a 16-gauge over .223 for pests (rabbits and
    squirrels), and a 30-06 double rifle (or possibly something a tad
    hotter) for deer and elk.
            
    If I could only have one barrel set it would be the 30-06 double,
    or I might consider a triple barreled (drilling) in 12 gauge over
    30-06.
         
    /. Ian .\
                                                 
396.4I'M JUST KIDDINGBTOVT::RIVERS_DWed May 17 1989 11:036
    
    
    
    			AK-47 with jungle clips
    
    			(and a granade launcher)
396.5another vote for 30-06SALEM::MACGREGORI'm the NRA/GONH/NAHCThu May 18 1989 14:173
    Winchester bolt action 30-06 with a redfield widefield 2X7 variable.
    Tough one to pick.
    							Bret
396.6Shotgun, 12ga.GIAMEM::J_AMBERSONThu May 18 1989 15:0010
    If I had to pick a gun that I _already_ own I would have to go with
    a 12 ga. shotgun.  With the shotgun I could hunt everything from
    birds to black bear.  Providing I pick my shots, I should be able
    to harvest venison, pheasant, ducks, quail, turkey, bear, etc.
    Choke tubes also add to it's versatility.  I also could mount a
    low power scope on it with the slug barrel.
    
    Jeff
    
    (I'd still like a Drilling 8*))
396.7Revolutionary ChoiceWFOV11::DRUMMThu May 18 1989 15:428
    	If I was told I had to choose just one gun to keep and rid myself
    of the rest? I would keep my M1A1, civilian version of the M14. It would
    make the best weapon to fight the revolution with!!!! High mag. capacity
    and accurate to 600yds. When the dust settled and we won, I could hunt 
    all game except birds on the wing.
    
    	Steve, Who_hopes_he_dosen't_have_to_make_the_choice!!!!!!
396.8Best all aroundAD::GIBSONLobst'a Ayh'a I'm the NRAWed May 24 1989 17:2712
    I can see by the previous note that he's not in New England, The best
    all around for up here would have to be a 12Ga pump with 5 round
    capacity or more. 3" mag chamber with interchangable choke tubes.
    
    Sounds just like one that I have. Winchester.
    
    A varity of rounds can be fired from bird shot to buck shot and slugs.
    
    Good for hunting anything that walks,flies,swims or crawls.
    
                                     Walt
    
396.9I pick SharpsLUDWIG::ETHOMPSONI`m the NRAThu May 25 1989 22:3614
 I read .01 or reading between the lines that the antis already won the way
 they wanted it by nomenclaturer and all the part's called out.
 So there goes any hope of ever owning an N1A or even replacing
 my M1 I had to sell before leaving California.
 That leaves out of 7 firearms I still own, only 3 that are legal.
            A repro Enfield 1863,
            An original Srigfiled 45-70 trap-door
            or C Sharps 1863 model

 For me, I think I'd pick the Sharps because I read with a sabot
 it can be used for an shot-gun,and for blackpowder it would be easy
 to keep shooting, and clean. Also, going into a gun shop for brushes
 no one will say why do you need any 308 brushes if you're not support
 to have one?
396.10just a replyWFOV11::DRUMMFri May 26 1989 12:3611
    	Rep; .8
    
    	OOOHHHHHHHH But I am in New England, Mass. as a matter of fact.
    My choice was made with the Anti-Gun activity in mind. I'd rather
    fight with the M1A1 than a shotgun any time. And as I said " After
    We Win " I could hunt all but flying critters. Of course because
    we won I could easly pick up a shotgun for that!!!
    
    	Keep 8^)
    
    	Steve