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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

960.0. "TURKEY HUNTING 1991" by ISLNDS::CELONA () Mon May 06 1991 18:52

    Well, turkey season started up here in Mass today.....any luck out
    there yet?
    
                    Tony C.
    
    
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960.1He had a smile on his faceSAHQ::BREWERMon May 06 1991 20:153
    Yes. But a little bit south of where you are (GA).
    
    Bobby
960.2GOBBLE GOBBLEPIPPER::SECURITYFri May 10 1991 08:246
                       GOING SATURDAY WITH TONY C.                              
    HOPE WE BAG ONE SATURDAY TONY, THEN I CAN ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION.
                                  RUGER.                                
    
    
                                     
960.3his sense of direction was lousy ;-)SA1794::CHARBONNDGun control = citizen controlMon May 13 1991 18:243
    Heard one gobble Saturday, but he went in the wrong direction and
    someone (else) shot him!! Oh, well, off to Vermont Thursday night
    for a 4-day weekend. 
960.4NEY YORK BOUND!!!SHARE::MARSHALLThu May 16 1991 16:375
    
      I leave for New York on the 24 of this month, I hope to at least 
    hear or see one. Will keep you posted.
    
    /Kevin Marshall
960.5BUMMERPIPPER::SECURITYFri May 17 1991 03:562
    NO LUCK. HAVE TO WAIT TO FALL.
                                   RUGER.
960.6SKUNKEDSHARE::MARSHALLTue May 28 1991 18:107
    
    
    ....SKUNKED!!!!!!!!!!  yuck  I heard two different Toms but no luck.
    
    
    /Kevin Marshall
    
960.7Success!!MR4DEC::MARINOWed May 29 1991 11:1422
    My hunting buddy got a 19.5lb Tom. The beard measured 9 1/4 inches. I
    watched a boss gobbler and 2 jakes that kept their distance from the 
    boss (about 100 yards) for 45 min in a field. The boss had a hen with
    him but he came within about 80 yards of me in an open field to check
    out my calls. He wouldn't get within range and eventually drifted back
    to the hen. While this was going on a small deer came into the field 
    and was harassing the two jakes. I couldn't believe the action.
    
    The bird was shot at 35yds. and was kicking and flapping strongly. So,
    he pumped a second shot which slowed the bird down considerably. 
    My feeling is that 12ga  3" with a full choke is not the ideal gun.
    I will get a 10ga. in time for the next season.
    
    The week before three of us moved in on a turkey that was gobbling. My
    cousin got within 40 yards of the bird. He fired .... knocked the bird
    over and the bird flipped himself back on his feet and ran in the 
    direction of my brother. He shot (from about 30 yds) ... the bird
    fell, recovered and ran again. We looked and looked , found a feather
    here and there but no bird. The first shot was with a 12ga. 3" mag
    duplex load. The second shot was from a 12ga. 2 3/4" mag.
    
    Fishing in the afternoon wasn't bad either.
960.8GIAMEM::J_AMBERSONWed May 29 1991 11:218
    A question, Do you guys pattern your guns before the season?  I've
    seen some guns that pattern better with a 1 7/8 oz load then with a 
    2 oz load.  Also seen a big difference between diffent brand of shells.
    For my gun (870, 24" with turkey choke) 35 yds is the max that I can 
    consistantly put 6 pellets into the kill zone of a turkey.  This is
    with #6 shot in a Federal 2oz load.  Also do you guys aim for the head?
    
    Jeff
960.9Moving in, Not the Best waySKIVT::WENERWed May 29 1991 14:5026
    
    	RE .7:
    
    		Just a word of caution when moving in on a bird.  Up here
    in Vermont it is unacceptable to do this, especially so during the 
    spring season.  There are basically two reasons.  first is because it's
    dangerous, many people have been shot and killed hunting turkeys
    this way.  A 12 ga. with #2's or #4's at close range is deadly!  
    Everyone is in camo, and you DON't necessarily know if the gobble is
    a turkey, or if it's a hunter.  I'm not implying that you guys take
    sound shots or anything like that, just be careful, it's hard to
    be 100% sure where your buddies are in a situation like this.
      
    	Second reason is because it's considered unsportsmanlike.  Reason
    for this is because if you hear a bird and he doesn't respond to your
    calls, it may be because the bird is being worked in close by another
    hunter!  He may be calling very softly, so much so that you may not
    even hear him.  If you come in and disturb that bird while he's working
    it, you can expect an angry hunter.
    
    	It's always best to work the bird to you.  While neither of these
    two scenerios may have been in effect in your case, please keep them
    in mind. 
    
    - Rob
    
960.10have to be awake out thereVLNVAX::DMICHAELSONThu May 30 1991 11:4130
    re: .9
    
    	You are correct in your statements about moving in on a bird. It is
    very dangerous! Even more so if you are in a moderate or high hunting
    pressure area. If there are other hunters in the area, I wont go in. If
    someone comes into my area, I speak to them (cant confuse the human
    voice for a turkey) then get up and move. Dont wave your hand or arm to
    try and let someone know you are there. That could be a costly mistake.
    Its always better to lose a bird than your life...
    
    As long as I have been trying to learn about turkeys and turkey hunting,
    there was always the stories about hunters being shot mistakenly for
    birds. But, I have never heard about one happening (in MA, or
    surrounding area). Not that I want to, but I just felt that if the
    seminars and books always preach this that it must happen on a somewhat
    regular basis. Does anyone know of it first hand? I find it extreamly
    difficult to understand how this might happen. When I am turkey hunting
    I have no problmes at all seeing someone in the woods and knowing its
    not a turkey. 
    
    Oh almost forgot, my brother bagged a 17.75 lb. He had the bird
    display for him and strutt around for several minutes. Took the shot at
    27 yds, and made a clean kill. The bird did flop around a bit but was
    killed on the shot. He uses an 870 pump, 3" mag. Remington 4x6 shell.
    As stated before in previous replies, you must shoot at the head and
    neck, a body shot will not kill a turkey. I was 100yds away from my
    brother on the opposite side of a ridge. I didnt hear anything except
    the shot.
    
    Don
960.11Here's oneSALEM::GOGUENThu May 30 1991 14:3013
     To answer the question on turkey hunting accidents in the Mass area, there
     was a hunter that took a load of #2's in the right side of his head and
     shoulder this past spring (may 6th) in Brentwood N.H..  He spent 3-4 days 
     in the hospital and was released.  Not much information was released
    on how the hole happened.  The rumor is the person shot was gobble
    calling and another hunter moved in on him and shot what he thought was
    a turkey.
     If anyone else has heard anymore info on this accident, please post
    it.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Bruce
960.12Two that I know ofSKIVT::WENERThu May 30 1991 14:5928
    
    	Don, I know of two people who were injured or killed during 
    turkey season in Vermont.  The first incident occurred in the fall
    in Ira, VT.  A person of the last name Lincoln was calling while 
    sitting on a log.  Someone from Winooski, VT moved in behind him
    and unloaded on the back of his head!  The gentelman shot had very 
    dark, black hair and was not wearing a headnet.   He was killed 
    instantly. 
    	The second incident occurred when a high school classmate of mine
    was hunting with his girlfriends brother.  Apparantly he shot at the
    bird and just on the other side of the bird was his buddy!  He took
    some lead in the arms and legs, but was OK.  
    	I no longer hunt turkeys, not because of these incidents, because
    I still feel it's safer than walking down the street of a major city.
    I gave it up because of my reason #2 in note .9 . I got fed up with 
    people walking in on birds when I was working them.  It became 
    frustrating work to even find a bird to work that wasn't call shy 
    because of this, or one that wasn't called in before the season, looked
    at and maybe scared off...  
    	Before the frustration, I can attest that when you have the bird
    to yourself to work, it can be one of the most exciting forms of
    hunting available.  To me, though, there's too much competetion out 
    there, so I bowed out.  Now in the spring I go fishing a lot, and 
    concentrate my hunting energies on Bowhunting and rifle hunting for
    deer in the fall.  Besides some occasional grouse hunting.
    
    - Rob
    
960.13go deep!VLNVAX::DMICHAELSONThu May 30 1991 18:1415
    MA turkey permits were down this year from last year's. I dont know the
    numbers but I did hear they were down. I think it may be because of the
    fact that it is not very successful, and done correctly is a lot of
    work.
    
    I've found an area that has a lot of birds, and the first year I hunted
    there we did have people coming in after us and messing up our hunt.
    What I've done to eliminate this is gone deep into the woods, set up
    camp, scout and hunt from there. I have not seen or heard another
    hunter since doing this. Most, just drive up and walk in early and try
    to locate birds. They tend not to go too far into the woods, where I
    am. So much for my plans though, I've yet to take a gobbler. Everyone
    else in my huntting party has...   :^(
    
    Don