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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

801.0. "SMELL OF LEATHER" by ODIXIE::RHARRIS () Fri Oct 12 1990 11:57

    How do you get the smell of leather off of a new sling before going in
    the woods?  With all this hype on our own smell, I figure that the
    sling could do something with the smell.
    
    
    Bob
    
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801.1HEFTY::CHARBONNDscorn to trade my placeFri Oct 12 1990 12:3113
    In general gun hunting doesn't require such strict scent-control
    measures as archery, because the weapon has a much longer range.
    
    However, I try to keep _all_ my hunting gear as scent-free as
    possible. One of the products like Scent-Sheild that block
    human odor should work on leather. A wax might help. Also the 
    use of a cover scent while hunting, like fox urine or skunk.
    
    I'd worry more about the gun oil and bore cleaner smells myself-
    not nearly as 'natural' as leather.
    Dana
    
    
801.3WJOUSM::PAPPALARDOFri Oct 12 1990 12:4211
    
    
    OH BROTHER!! Come on guys huh... I think we're going a little overboard
    with scents. In the old days we did'nt have scents and the deer still
    ended up in the fridge.
    
    Please don't tell me people here use Tink's "Breath-Camo" also.
    Breath-Camo..Give me a break!
    
    Rick
    
801.4new call- munching MacsHEFTY::CHARBONNDscorn to trade my placeFri Oct 12 1990 13:291
    re .3 You're better off eating an apple :-)
801.5doe in heat breath?ODIXIE::RHARRISFri Oct 12 1990 16:0014
    re.2  Hey, what's that stuff called?  Maybe if I get a raise, I can
    afford 1/2 an ounce.
    
    re.3  How about just eat a doe in heat?
    
    In actual reality, I personally did not think that a new sling would
    make a difference with the smell.  If I am at camp for 5 days, they
    will probably smell me before the sling, and then they will think they
    are near a dead rotten tree.
    
    Well, 8 days and counting.
    
    Bob
    
801.6 Stink to some, Roses to othersAIMTEC::SOBCZYNSKI_LSun Oct 14 1990 20:2441
    
    
    After much deliberation and consideration thereto of topic in question
    I have come to the following conculsion.  
    
    Although many articles have been written on the subject of deer and
    hunting, most are conculsions drawn on what the researches consider
    scientific study.  Sorta like going Lamaz classes to learn how to
    have children, delivery etc., something that has been going on for some
    length of time.  When did the human race forget how to deliver a baby? 
    Did we forget where they come from, right Randy, the stork brings em. 
    Hence we must look on the most faithful predictor/teacher of the future
    and that is our past.  As the earlier note stated, before scents became
    so popular we still got deer, and that person is correct, 100% correct. 
    We must approach this from the perspective of the deer. Why worry about the
    smell of leather, when some eat beans and drink beer the night before,
    now that'll really help hide scent.  Hell the deer will probably think it
    has a sinus problem, or pass out from the fumes.  Well back to the
    leather strap.  The only thing that seperates us from the animals is
    the fact that we have gained the ability to reason (well some have),
    and make rational decisions based on the facts, not react instinctively 
    to all situations.  So now we get down to the meat of the situation, so to
    speak.  As probably you have no doubt heard, there are animals that
    prefer  wips and chains as a stimulant. Hence one could possibly
    arouse the deer with the scent of leather, thus bringing it right to
    you door step, filled with expectations beyond that of mortal man, and
    there you are now one deer closer to your limit.  There is a point of
    caution, actually two: one; don't ground hunt, obvious reason: two; an
    immediate concern would be the scent of the leather.  Which sex would it
    attract? If its an either sex hunt day your safe, but what if its not. 
    My suggestion would be that you wear the leather strap like an around
    the neck badge holder.  Then observe the sex of the individuals  who 
    react to it mostly, and the type of reaction(s) of those individuals. 
    Do this for several days, then act accordingly, i.e. when to use it 
    while hunting and when not to.  Well Randy I hope this few words of 
    wisdom and scientific deduction will aid you in your effort in the 
    upcoming days, and remember you owe what you bag to this notes file.
    
    Cheers
    Leonard
      
801.7How far is too far???CSC32::J_HENSONIt's just the same, only differentFri Oct 19 1990 17:537
Does anyone have a good idea of how far away a deer can smell you?
I realize that the strength of the wind, dampness, and things of
that nature make a difference.  If anyone has read any studies on
this, or has any personable observations on this, let's hear from
you.

Jerry 
801.8SA1794::CHARBONNDbut it was a _clean_ missMon Oct 29 1990 10:1411
    re .7 I've read of experiments that showed a dog could smell
    its master at 300 yards under favorable wind/terrain conditions.
    Dogs and deer supposedly have equally keen noses.
    
    I've personaly watched a deer in a field pick up my scent 75
    yards away. She was calm until her browsing put her directly 
    downwind of me, and then it was amazing how she locked right on
    to my position. (She had come within twenty feet of my stand,
    looked right at me, and then circled around into the field.
    No reaction until she got a whiff, then ***what's that??!!***)
    
801.9COMET::ALBERTUSbut your lovin don't pay my billsWed Oct 31 1990 17:2815
	This past hunting trip I had eight does come to within ~30
	yards of me from the downwind direction. I had smoked a cigarette
	about 2 minutes before they came into view around the corner
	of this hill and had been in the woods tent camping for about
	a week prior - had to (did!) smell pretty rank by then.

	They appeared to know something was in their vicinity but
	couldn't pinpoint anything out of the ordinary as I didn't move.

	Kept flashing their ears back the way they came and I knew a buck
	was following - just a matter of a few more minutes.  A 4X4 made
	some noise coming up the hill from the other end and that 
	spooked 'em good.  So long to my Ronco deer decoys. ;-(

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