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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

601.0. "US News - Feb 5th issue" by AKOV68::ANDERSSON () Wed Jan 31 1990 18:49

    	Didn't see any reference about the Feb.5 issue of US News on
    banning hunting?  Cleveland Amory up to his tricks.  The anti's
    are especially after to bow hunters since a 15 year study in Texas
    (?) indicated only 50% retrieval of deer hit with arrows while a
    90% retrieval of deer hit with bullets!  I don't feel good about
    the growing (according to USN) opposition.
    
    Andy
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601.1Time To Fight!CSMADM::PAPPALARDOFri Feb 02 1990 14:0017
    
    I seen read this last night. I suggest everyone do the same. I cant
    believe some of the statements, for example:: XX amount of game was
    taken, but these numbers do not reflect poachers. They are
    incorporating Hunters/Poachers as the same. Aslo, Bald Eagles are
    killed by Hunters........Wrong!
    
    Anyway Read it !! 
    
    I would like us all in this file to get together and somehow come up
    with a standard letter to be sent by each of us to our Reps both Govt,
    State and Local levels.
    
    
    O.K. who's a good writer????????
    
    RICK
601.2more con than proSALEM::MACGREGORWed Feb 07 1990 12:3025
    I just got finished reading the article (my brother just returned
    my magazine to me last night) and I am quite surprised by it. Also
    I was kind of surprised by the number that supported hunting but
    most did not participate (something like 80% supported but only
    7% hunted). I was also surprised by Bush's comments on the subject.
    It's kind of scary that someday hunting may well be banned, especially
    if this kind of activity keeps up. But what really got me going
    was Cleveland Amory's stats (one of 3 types of lies?) about 177
    people getting killed and 1,719 getting injured. I broke this down
    to percentages, .0011% got killed and .01074 got injured. It seems
    to me that these mean hunting is one of THE safest (if not THE safest)
    sports in the world. But one thing I liked about the article was
    George Reiger (conservation editor for Field and Stream) was the
    we (hunters) kill to hunt  not hunt to kill. But what really irks
    me is that because some people don't like hunting they try to stop
    it. They don't care if other people like it or not. But I have noticed
    it is not really the other way around. I don't see many of us doing
    this to these activists. Maybe we should come up with a tax on these
    Animal Rights activists in order to create a diversionary tactic
    to make them spend there money elsewhere and not against us. Also
    waht irked me was how alot of the hunter harrasment laws are being
    struck down. What is it going to take for these people to realize
    someone is going to get hurt real bad if they happen to jump in
    front of an animal and get shot?
    							Bret
601.3Every week!!!EUCLID::PETERSONGOVERNMENT is a VERB!Mon Feb 12 1990 11:4616
    
    
    	This morning (2/12/90), for the (3rd/4th...) Monday in a row,
    	WRKO radio from Boston has interview a spokesman from an animal
    	rights group.(I missed the name today)
    
    	The plan they SEEM to have is a low intensity,long term pressure
    	to "reform" hunting regulations.  We know what the long term goal
    	is-total ban on the "inhumane" use of animals.  The short term goal 
    	is (IMHO) to get represention on the MASS. fish and wildlife board.
    
    	Right now they are interviewing a trapper-explaining his side very
    	rationally and clearly. 
    			
    		CP
    
601.4Another bad rap !DNEAST::STEVENS_JIMMon Feb 12 1990 12:4113
    This place looked good for this little tid bit I heard coming
    in this morning. Although this pertains to the shooting sport in
    particular, I thought it interesting to put in here.
    
    Yesterday, an 8 year old girl was killed when hit in the back by
    a stray bullet. The girl was at Disneyland.. The report had little
    details other than Police say the stray came from beyond the
    boundary of Disneyland.
    
    If I hear more, I'll post it here. I can hear all the anti's now !!
    
    Jim
    
601.5today's debateEUCLID::PETERSONGOVERNMENT is a VERB!Mon Feb 12 1990 12:5925
    
    
    	As a follow up to re.3
    
    	The rights group on the radio today is CEASE-I don't recall
    	what that stands for.  He is debating the owner of Kakis Furs.
    
    	You may or may not be a supporter of the trapping industry, but 
    	the bottom line from these people was pretty well summed up when
    	the guy from CEASE stated that he hadn't decided if it was O.K.
    	for the City of Boston to poison the rat population in the city.
    	The City has had a very agressiv plan to reduce the rat population
    in order to head off potential problems with the proposed depression
    	of the Central Artery.
    
    	So far the Animal Rights people are coming off as a little whack-o
    	i.e. All of their spokes people have been against the use of 
    	animals for ALL reasons including meat for food.  However, they are 
    	becoming more and more sophisticated in their attacks. 
    	
    		Even IF you don't trap, the hunter and fisherperson are under 
    	the same attack, and you cannot allow the anti to divide and conquer.
    
                 CP