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re                     <<< Note 547.0 by TYCOBB::J_BORZUMATO >>>
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	OK,  I'd be interested in the following-


	For sure:	Fenders, dock lines, a better anchor, an OS
			supplies dry suit. 

	Maybe:		Barefoot boom, trailer winch.

	The maybe is dependent on whether I buy a new boat, should I 
include THAT in the list ?

	Reg	{Lusting after the new Nautiques}

    OK, I'll bite:
    
    	- Swim platform (teak, polycarbonate, etc.)
    	- Mooring cover
    	- Marine carpet
    	- Trailer jack
    	- Dry suit
    
    Gee Jim, you may have just killed any chance for a "Dear Santa" note
    with this one!  :-)
    
    ...Roger...

    Yea. Jim I can't resist adding momentum!
    
    A set of Hydrolic Trim Tabs
    
    A Tuna Tower
    
    Davits
    
    A fighting Chair
    
    Radar
    
    & a New 1200HP Engine!!
    
                            Walt
    

    

    Gee Walt I'm not sure about the tabs.
    
    Jim.

    Jim.
    
    & Others...
    
    Seriously. This is a super Idea! If we could form a club, a nonprofit
    orginazation, and make purchaces in bulk on certain items, Huge
    discounts could be had.
    
    This could be a WIN-WIN situation for all its members.
    
    I'm sure a lot of you may say" Yea, But how many people would we have
    to have involved to make this work?"
    
    Well lets find out!   If your interested lets form a list of people.
    
    I'd be willing to keep track of everybody and keep you all informed.
    
    Jim? Lets make it work!
    
                                Walt
    

    
    Are these places just catalog purchases only? The reason for asking
    is that i'm in the market for a new outboard and want to finance a
    percentage of the price. Can arrangements be made to do such a thing?
    
    

    
    Ok...who ever is keeping a list of 'interested parties', please
    add:
    
    Mitchell Klein           Nutmeg::Klein
    
    Thanks,
    
    

    
    RE: .6 & .7
    
    .6 in general i don't see the outboard as a problem, as for financing
       i'll check into it with the vendor. (if you want) but responsibility
       for it is yours. Need the brand and H.P of the outboard.
    
    .7 I have checked with the moderators, we will be using this note
       as a central repository for all replies. Consider yourself as
       added.
    
    
    
    Just one further note in general: I want to have all the lists with
    
    the specifics, by JAN 15, 1990. This is usually a slow time for
    
    these folks, any later and their off thinking about boat shows
    
    and other things. Best to hit them in the lull, BETTER PRICES.
    
    IN YOUR LISTS MAKE SURE I HAVE THE SPECIFICS, ONLY TAKES A FEW 
    
    MINUTES. IMAGINE FOR A MINUTE THAT YOUR ASKING ME TO GO OUT AND
    
    BUY, WITHOUT HAVING TO CALL YOU FOR MORE DETAIL. DON'T MAKE THE
    
    ASSUMPTION THAT I OR ANYONE ELSE WILL KNOW WHAT YOU WANT.
    
    
    JIM.

    Is there anything we could do about Insurance if a National DEC
    Boat Culb was formed ? Or even DEC boaters within states. Does anbody
    know or have looked into this.
    Thanks
    Walt
    P.S. I won't be buying any new toys as I just had to do a re-build.

    Ok Klotz is in too --
    
    		Power Winch Windlass  (Rode/Chain Gypsy)
    
    		Hot water heater with engine heat exchanger
    
    		Raw Water Strainers  (1 1/4" Groco)
    
    		+ a misc list I haven't thought of yet
    
    Thinking about it for a moment with a few folks this could be a
    BIG Buy.
    
   JIM-
    	Why did you say "Distant States Like Mass might not benefit"??????
    
                                     /Lou
    

    Ok. I see a lot of Tangental Questions. Lets Start with the Idea of a
    "BOATERS CLUB" 
    
    If we form a legitimate "Club" with a real charter, this would enable
    us to purchace "Wholesale" from manufactures and vendors. It would also 
    give us social diversion as we could have a monthly meeting to dicuss
    new Idea's on Boating places, equiptment and maintaince.
    
    This would not limit us to only being able to purchace at a particular
    time. It would be an ongoing function.
    
    I'm sure that with the diversified knowledge of all potential members
    that we could be of mutual assistance.
    
    If this sparks your interest? Let me know. Maybe we can brainstorm
    Ideas and come up with a draft???
    
                                Walt
    

You can add me to an interest list as well.

I need to give it more thought but I need things ranging from lines,
new anchoring system, gas barbecue grill, to an inflateable and probably 
some widgets thrown in.

Carl

    
    
    
    You bet! Add me in on it. After the haul out this year, I made up
    a list that is already at $750. Anything to cut this down.
    
    
      BANDIT::MORSE
    
    
    

    Walt,
    
    Count me in. I like your idea. I don't have a list of "big" ticket
    items off the top of my head (I think I bought them all last year),
    but I like the idea of a "club" where we could order anytime or
    at
    specific times during the year.
    
    besides "big" ticket items, I can think of a whole lot of everyday
    items, oil, boat cleaners, grease, etc., etc.
    
    Jim
    
    PS thanks for the delivery. I try it Saturday!
    

    Your absolutely right Lou. "BIG BUY" I"d like to hit $20k or better,
    its possible, i blew 3K last year, putting in what we wanted.
    
    Please give me some specifics on items 1 & 2 you can always
    come back and change it.
    
    On my comment about Mass. and distance. I actually said i'm not
    sure about those who are distant "from Mass." thinking here
    that if someone wanted to participate, for example lived on 
    the West Coast, shipping costs might eat up some of their 
    savings.
    
    
    As mentioned in the base note, i did this last year on a small
    scale and it did work. This one has the makin's.
    
    Jim.
    
    
    

    
    I think we have some great ideas here. 2 basic schemes.
    
    1. A large purchase of Marine Supplies, i.e. money talks,
       and you know the rest. The deposit for this purchase
       should go into our vendor(s) by mid feb.
    
    2. A Boaters Club, for many reasons, too include on-going
       purchases of Marine Supplies.
                               
    
    Without objection, i'll handle item 1. Walt Gibson has volunteered
    to handle item 2.
    
    
    Could we seperate the 2 into different base notes, for clarity's
    sake. 
    
    I would like to use this note to gather the specifics, and the other
    for comments, suggestions, critique of the Club, and its charter.
    
    
    
    Jim.
    

    I'll go for the "Large Purchase" with a SS Prop that fits 1985 85 HP
    Force. Price to beat = $ 200. (That's my "sense" of the price to beat,
    not a quote.) 
    
    Bill Servey

    I think I read that Boat US membership is reduced if they are dealing
    with a club or flotilla. Instead of $17/year, I think it's $10-12.
    
    Fred Smith
    

	Jim,
		Couple things...

I'd like to place an order for a trailer jack. (Do you need specific model?)
Also;
	SKI tow line. (Pardon my ignorance) I think a neoprene line that 
	is adjustable in length?  Is there such a beast?

	SKI gloves (large)

	Not sure what they call this but its a tow line bar which is mounted 
	inside the boat. (again, pardon my ignorance, I have always gotten
	by with 'old style' "stuff"  8^) )

Will you have prices on this stuff? or is there something I can look at that you
have?  
	Also, I am interested in a power trim kit for an 85hp Force (1988)
	(interested more in price and brand)

		Thanks..	Roger_who_is_chomping_away_at_my_xmas_list  8^)

    Me too, me too.
    
    	Right now I can think of the following items:
    
    	-mooring cover
    	-second anchor, chain, line
    	-spare trailer tire
    	-maybe one of those little self contained loran units.
    
    
    	Curie::Plumley  (note - soon to be Duggan::plumley0
    

    Jim
    
    	You can also add me to your list.  I'ld like to get a pair of 16'
    aluminum outriggers, and their bas mounts.  Price to beat is $110.  Let
    me know what other information you need on them.  I'm also looking to
    replace my docklines (100' of 3/4"), new flares, bottom paint (unipoxy,
    1228 blue, 1 gal) price to beat $90.  Let me know what other
    information you need.
    
    Thanks
    Joe A.

    Add me to the list.
    
    I will need:
    
    Bottom paint, same as Joe's
    Zincs for an OMC Cobra drive, zincs for my tabs
    The next size up from a #13 danforth anchor (will get specifics)
    Deck chairs with rod holders (run about $100 at bliss)
    Many OMC tune up parts...
    About 15 cans of Re-lead
    Teak oil, boat wash......
    
    I am sure I will come up with more as this idea matures.
    
    Bruce              
    

    RE: .19, .20, .21..
    
    WELCOME ABOARD.  First thing you need to do, is get a hold of some
                     Marine Supply catalogs. There are quite a few out
                     there, and get me a little detail.
    
    example: .19 Trailer Jack, for what tngue weight.
             .20 mooring cover, for what type of boat, and is it i/o
             or outboard. On the second anchor, cahin and line
             What brand of anchor and weight, length,size of line,
             and what size chain, and vinyl coated or galvanized.
             .21 16' alum outriggers, what brand, what type of finish.
                 i.e. anodized, painted black etc.
    
        ALSO GIVE ME THE BEST PRICE YOU HAVE FOUND AT THIS TIME.
    I will take the info you give me, combine all the like items,
    
    i.e. sizes of line, group the sizes of fenders, group the bottom
    paints and look to but in bulk. On line, we buy as many spools
    as needed to make up the total, fenders we buy in bulk packs,
    paint comes in cases, i'm not suggesting we all buy the same
    paint, but if we were to buy the SAME BRAND of paint we'll do
    better.
                                                                
    
    Keep in mind that i cannot compile a list of generalities,
    so be as specific as you can. If you need more info, I'm 
    sure one of us can point you in the right direction.
    
    
    
    
    Jim.

    Well I might as well join in the feeding frenzy also. Count me in
    and I will get my list together.
    
    Harlan

    Please add my name to the list.  I would imagine that just about
    evryone needs an annual supply of bottom paint.
    
    For those looking for new dock-lines, take a look at Spag's. They have
    the gold dock-lines in several sizes (3/8, 1/2, etc.) in 100 foot
    lengths.  About a quarter of the marine stores costs.

    OOPS!  Schlegel at WJOUSM would be the contact.

    
    
    	Sound's like the smart thing to do.  I usually will only need
    small scale items.  Count me in @
    
    	HAZEL::DELISLE
    
    
    Steve
    

   
               Count me in. I'm presently compiling my list.
    
 			    HAZEL::YELINEK
    
    /MArk

    I  sent myself copies of all the replies up to the last reply,
    
    printed them and have them in a folder.
    
    Lets have some more.....................
    
    JIM....

    
       Put me on the list, I have not completed my list but it will
    soon.
    
        cscma::blood

    
    	Add me on the list too,I am still in the process of making up my
    list.
    
    Frenchy   		
    
    WMOIS::N_PARE

    Having just upgraded to a larger boat with bigger 'rags' hanging from
    the over sized antenna pole, I am SURE that I am going to need 'much
    stuff'. 
    
    New boat had been moored mostly on a lake and the bottom had been
    covered with an 'INTERLUX' epoxy product, 2002, I think. Since I will
    be mooring in the Salem area, I will certainly need anti fouling bottom
    paint and since its the first time and no personal experience to go on,
    I would most likely be interested in going with the 'flow' and buying a
    gallon of what the 'group' decides. Also, it would be helpful if
    sometime (a month?) prior to the dead line if a list of the items
    requested could be posted as a tickler for the rest of to use .
    
    Also interested in fender covers, dock lines, 2 mooring penants, and if
    the price is right, a knot meter and depth sounder. Details to follow.
    (sp?).
    
    Walt, add me to the 'club' list.
    
    I am also intersted in pricing things like a dodger and adding a 'Ultra
    Violet' stripe to the roller furling jib. Is it posible that any of the
    BETTER Sail lofts and related suppliers would be interest in 'dealing'
    with a group/club.
    
    Fred The-not-toooo-proud-owner-of-a-like-new-ODay-222.
    

    I guess it's time to add details to my list.  Expanding on .2, here's
    what I've come up with so far:
    
    	- Swim platform (teak, polycarbonate, etc.)
    
          Since my boat is a 16' with a 54" transom, the standard full
    	  platform (18"W x 64"L x 2"H) made by Dolphin is too big.  I
    	  don't know if they make a smaller version of the full platform
    	  for boats like mine.  They *do* make a half-platform
    	  (16"W x 22"L x 1-1/2"H), two of which would fit on my boat.  The
    	  half platform goes for $53.95 (Ski Limited price), including the
    	  removable brackets.  I need the brackets for the 102-degree
    	  transom.  Of course, I'd be interested in hearing about a full
    	  platform that would fit my boat, in either polycarbonate or teak.
    
    	- Mooring cover (for inboard ski boat, 16'L x 70-3/4"W)
    
    	  Heavy duty ski boat cover, 13-oz. cotton canvass, with drawstring
    	  and tiedowns, plus reinforcements around windshield, tow pylon,
    	  and other stress areas.  Completely covers topside, and extends
    	  4"-5" over rail.  $184.95 from Overton's.
    
    	- Marine carpet
    
    	  Blue & black marine carpet, approx. 50 square feet.  No price
    	  information.
    
    	- Trailer jack
    
    	  Crank type with single wheel.  Rack & pinion, $43.95.  Standard
    	  screw-type, $37.95.  Both are Ski Limited prices.
    
    	- Dry suit
    
    	  Large.  Stay Dry Pro Edition Barefoot Drysuit, $259.95 from Ski
    	  Limited.

    Re: .33 & 34, you got it. 
    
    1. I'll put a list together, combining all of the like items, to
       be sent out for bid.  THE LOWEST BIDDER GETS THE BUCKS.
    
    2. I've printed all the NOTES except the last 2, .33 & .34 because
       they were new as of this log-in. 
    
    SPECIAL NOTE............ IF YOU INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN THIS
     
    AND ARN'T SURE OF WHAT YOU WILL NEED, ------PLEASE REGISTER
    
    I'LL SEND OUT A REMINDER A MONTH BEFORE WE NEED TO SEND IT OUT
    
    AND YOU CAN ADD YOUR ITEMS..........
    
    
    THANKS AGAIN,
    
    JIM.

    Please add me to the list...
    
    I am definately planning the purchase of a Barefoot wetsuit (Probably
    an Eagle Eliminator (179.95 from Ski-Limited or Barts or Barefoot
    Int'l)  Model subject to change as '90 models come out.
    
    Kevlar non-stretch barefoot line (39.95 from Overtons') and possibly
    a Barefoot handle (any model will do for *forward* footin')
    
    Hopefully (but doubtful) a Barefoot Int'l "BOOM" (about 350. bucks)
    
    Maybe a subdirectory of ski-related stuff is in order?
    Doug Whynot  TAZRAT::WHYNOT or SETH::WHYNOT, DTN 275-3309
    

    Sounds good to me.  Thinking about a 'lower end' loran, new fishfinder
    and VHF.  Brands and prices to follow.
    
                                                  Tom Urban

    I'm interested in joining the group purchase too, but I haven't had
    time to make a shopping list.  I have a question:  do we have the
    option of backing out of the purchase if you do not meet or beat the
    target price?  What if a store offers some things at a great price in
    return for a not-so-great price on a big ticket item?
    

    The game plan is to send out the list for BIDS. We'll know up
    front what the costs are. If we like what we see then we'll get
    out a deposit. You are not obligated in any way, until we
    give them a deposit. I find it difficult you will find to beat the
    prices we get get on a bid. The vendors are aware we have catalogs
    (cause i tell them) and we done our homework.
    
    My personal approach is this: if my list consists of 10 items
    i'm looking at what the bottom line is. (i.e. the sum of the items)
    and base my decision on that.
    
    Also last year one vendor bid on the basis of "all or none" we could
    not pick and chose the items we wanted. I called the vendor to inform
    them that "they were not be considered, because of the stipulation".
    
    Last year, we purchased goods from 2 vendors, we took the best prices
    from the 2 and purchased accordingly.
    
    Most people aren't aware of the fact, that the list we give them
    actually works in their favor. They combine our order with theirs
    or even another vendors order, and get stock for themselves at 
    a reduced price. Believe me when you understand what they do,
    and you make them aware of it, all the B.S. goes away.
    
    I have some very stiff conditions in the contract they will sign.
    
    EX. 1. all materials are new and in the original packages, complete
           with warranties. On larger items, a reciept must be issued
           in the purchaser's name for warranty purposes.
    
        2. we reserve the exclusive right "without question" to refuse
           any materials at the time "we pick it up" this exclusion
           will have no effect on the price of the item. I'm referring
           to the vendor not having met his obligations. i.e. no owners
           manual in the box, or missing parts, we will not pay for
           or take delivery until all we are satisfied.
    
    
    
    hope this answers your questions.
    
    Jim.

    What about Volume Prop Repair?  As most of us seem to use H&H in Salem
    anyway, (good service/reasonable price) Would they give us a discount?
    Last year I paid $68.00 to un-ding a 13X13 Nibrel prop...Always looking
    to save a few $$.
    Doug

    h Ok, I'm in too!
    
    I'm interested in Loran, Fresh water cooling parts,and bottom paint.
    
    Particulars to follow.
    
    BOSTON::DAGOSTINO
    
    THANKS
    
    JOE D.
    (I LIKE THE PROPELLER IDEA!)

    
    	Hi Guys,
    
    		Yeah, I'd get on the prop list, if we did one..
    As for equipment, I think I'm pretty well set this year...
    
    Rick
    
    I already know my "tennifoot" handle is coming from Santa...

    Yes, I'm interested.  I'll go through the OVERTON's catalog for the ski
    stuff....should I check any other catalogs?

    re: 40  WHY NOT.
    
    JIM.

    RE:43 the option of going thru other catalogs is yours to decide,
          i'll get prices from the bidding process, some i'll understand
          very clearly, good or bad, but your the final judge.It might
          be a good idea to check a few more.
    
    
    Jim.
    

    Please also add me to the list of interested purchasers.  I am
    establishing a list of items I need.  
    
    Would it be possible to create a list of items and have those of you
    knowledgeable of products suggest brands and costs.  For instance:  I
    want to buy water skis.  I have a daughter and a son soon to be 13 and
    11 respectively.  Neither have ever waterskied.  I also want to use the
    skis for slalom.  The kids will also soon after starting, I think.  I
    could use suggestions on suitable brands and models.  Same goes for
    other items.  I am new to boating so have not yet established a good
    list of discount suppliers.
    
    Any thoughts?
    
    Thanks,
    Rich

    .40 
    
    I have two props I plan to have reworked this winter.  Both have
    relatively minor damage, i.e. I was told they each should be reworked
    for about $55.00.  One is a 13.25X17 and the other is a 13X19.  I would
    be interested in discounts.
    
    Great idea,
    Richf

	Sign me up !!! Please include the following items on the list...

		- Replacement ZINC's for Volvo 290 outdrives
		- Prop repair
		- 5/8" Gold Braided Docklines (30-40ft)
		- 1/2" Anchor line by the roll (~600ft)
		- Eletric Toilet Conversion Kits (the new version that doesn't
		  require rebuilding the manual pump - simply replace it)
		- Doel Fins/Hydrofoils (Small outboards and Volvo 290 I/O)?

Thanks,
David "Harpoonist" Auger
QETOO::AUGER

		

    I'm interested in a Doel Fin and prop repair.
    .....possibly a ski suit as well        
                                   
    Jeff Green
    CSLALL::JEGREEN
    285-2939

    
    1) Henri-Lloyd Foremost suit this is a one piece sailing suit.
    	Size:		XL
    	Color:		Red/Gray
    	Cost:		$159
    
    2) Henri-Lloyd Foremost jacket
    	Size:		XL
    	Color:		Blue/White
    	Cost:		$169
    
    3) Henri-Lloyd Foremost pants
    	Size:		XL
    	Color:		Blue
    	Cost:		$139
    
    
    	I definitely want the suit the jackt and pants will be conditional
    based on cost of whole package.
    
    
    Forrest

    RE: .46
    
    Rich, you might want to browse through this conference for the advice
    you seek.  There have been many discussions of the various items you're
    looking for and lots of good advice to help you select the brands you
    should consider.  For example, there's a note (or notes) that discusses
    beginner skiers and the equipment you should look for.  Lots of good
    pointers.  You'll find that many of us here lean toward mail order
    catalogs, but there are exceptions, like this note for volume purchase
    via whatever the least expensive mechanism turns out to be, and there
    are a few local shops that will match or beat any catalog price.  It's
    just finding them and checking if they have what you want in stock.
    
    Welcome to BOATS!
    
    ...Roger...

    The ToTaL list of ALL the merchandise everyone wants is going to get BiG...!

    Jim, Any chance of the shipment going to N.H....or do we gotta let
    the Duke in on our score.?
    
    /MArk

    I was able to get a 30% discount on new and rebuilt props from
    H&H this year when I used my Rod Building tax number. They almost
    opened me an account but they I did not have enough credit references.
    Based on this I am sure we could work something out with them with
    the kind of volume we are talking. I guess I could sign up to follow
    up the prop angle if you all agree to it. I am kinda leaning
    towards buying a 15x17 stainless myself. If I do I will have
    have a 15x17 aluminum that is like new to trade in (or sell to
    someine in this conference).
    
    Bruce

    RE: .52 &.53
    
    .52 I have no problem with N. H., here's the only caveat, if the
        outfit we do business with also has a outlet in Mass. and 
        a Mass. resident buys there we might have a problem. I know
        its does apply to mail order, especially Boat U.S. they have
        charged me sales tax, even tho the item came from their 
        headquarters. Maybe its different if we go to N.H. and
        pick it up Could you make some calls around to some of the 
        Marine Suppliers and inquire if they would be interested 
        in a Large purchase.
    
    .53 Seems you have a good handle on this prop repair, could 
        you check into it further, and get some estimates on
        repairing those that have been listed so far. I'll
        check on a source on this end.
    
    
    
    From the activity we have to date, we're headed in the right 
    direction, KEEP IN MIND our goal is "TOTAL BOTTOM LINE PRICE"
    This includes everything, sales tax as well....
    
    If you have a particular supplier in mind, please enter it in this
    note, i'll be sure to call them, and send them a copy of our
    list.
    
    Jim.
    
    
    .

Re; .53
    
>    I am kinda leaning towards buying a 15x17 stainless myself. If I do I 
>    will have have a 15x17 aluminum that is like new to trade in (or sell to
>    someine in this conference).
    
   Bruce, I don't wanna turn this into a Prop. note...Please see 399.12 and
    comment.
    
    /MArk
    

    I am currently taking the Coast Guard Aux boating course.  One of the
    people in the course is works at/owns or something two Moore
    Lumber/True Value stores.  He was commenting on how cheep he had
    ordered some fenders.  
    
    I told him about this and he was interested in bidding.  I assume the 
    vender we deal with doesn't matter, just the specific product and price.
                                                   
    If we want I will get name and other pertinent info so we can send him
    a copy of the order.
    
    What do you think?
    Rich
    
    P.S.  I am also interested in participating in the club discussion. 
    Please add me to that list also.

    Rich, do get the info from him, so we can send him a copy of
     our list. 
    
    Jim.

    Please add me to your distribution list.  I am not sure what I need
    at this point but would like to participate when you pull this all
    together.
    
    Add:     USCTR1::FMACGILLIVRAY
    
    					Thanks,
    
    					Frank

    Frank, no problem participating. Glad to have you aboard.
    
    As for the contents of a list, i have it mentally, but i'm
    not complete either. If you have any supplier in mind,
    could you send them to me on mvps::J_borzumato. i'll
    publish it, and we'll look for criticism from the group.
    never know someone may have legitimate reason not to do 
    business with them.
    
    thanks,  Jim.

This concept is an excellent idea.

I suggest folks use a similar format, perhaps the attached, then the kind 
soul who volunteers to do the arduous legwork has a simplified, consistent 
format.  

Name address phone etc
********************************************************************************
_______________________________________________________________________________
|ITEM DESCRIPTION	      |  BRAND    |	 MODEL	     |QTY|  PRICE     |
|			      |	          |	NUMBER	     |	 | TO BEAT    | 
|_____________________________|___________|__________________|___|____________|
|			      |		  |		     |	 |            |
|_____________________________|___________|__________________|___|____________|

    re: -.1 ...and fellow boaters....
    
    Realize that "Model #" associated with "Brand" (i.e. Manufacture)
is quite abit different than
    
          the 'Stock # or a particular vendors "Catalog #" listed in
    your various marine catalogs. I believe ideally we want to provide
    Jim with the manufacturers Model/Part Number....Right Jim.?
    
    /MArk

    Jim,  I think .60 has an excellent point.  Perhaps a formal mechanism
    for submitting requests will help keep things in order.  I'll be gald
    to help sort things out.  Let me know if/how I can help.
    
    ...Roger...

    re: .61  /Mark your absolutely right.
    
    I need the Mafucturer's name and Model No. 
    
    Catalogs numbers are for vendors in-house use only.
    
    Note some catalogs do not print the mfg's name and model in the
    ad, its make it much more difficult to competitive pricing
    and easier to "bait and switch" Now we all Know they would never
    do that.   (p.s you know PIGS FLY  RIGHT?????)
    
    Also PLEASE use the format (shown in the privious note) for
    your final list.
    
    
    Jim.

    
    I need a 4 man inflateable, 6-8 horse outboard, lines, etc..
    Specifics to follow.
    
    Ray Hunt 244-6902
    

    After three months of attempts to repair, looks like I need a new VHF
    so count me in too.
    				.....Larry

     I would like to get in on this too. I'll get a list together.
    Can we include fishing gear?

    RE:  FISHING GEAR,
    
    Depends on what you mean. As for the small stuff, i don't think
    we'll do well. If you mean outriggers, chairs, and things along
    this line, sure.
    
    What are you after....?????
    
    Jim.

          
    
    
    
    
                    How 'bout PENN Rods & Reels....

    /MArk

    /mark, be glad to add it....
    
    J.
    

    Perhaps this should be broken down into categories??
       1) General boating stuff.  (maintenence items, accessories,etc..)
       2) Skiing stuff.           (Wetsuits, skis, ropes, handles, etc,etc)
       3) Fishing stuff.          (i.e. Fishing stuff  :*)
       4) Services.               (My bent prop, any engine/glass work,
                                   or hauling (for you big guys), etc..
          
          Seems it might be more managable based on the number of replies.
          Didn't I hear Roger volunteer to handle skiing stuff? :^)
    
    Doug.     

    re: .71, the listing is a dam good idea. if we get enough items
             we could split it up for summarization.
    
             On the services, particularly the engine/glass work,
             hauling, we may have some difficulties. We probably
             have boats all over the place, and this could
             difficult. How about if we elimimate this one,
             at least here.
    
    
             My thoughts are in line with the first 3 items.
             Basically CASH AND CARRY.
    
    
    One more thing, i need some volunteers with pick-ups, vans or 
    wagons. If this gets to the point i have in mind, we"ll need
    e'm.
    
    Jim.
    
    

    No problem helping out, Jim.  I've got a hatchback, and I know where I
    can borrow a pickup if need be (hey Tom, wanna go for a ride?).  This
    isn't gonna require our driving to some warehouse in Pennsylvania, is
    it?  :-)  Of course, if we do have to go south, we can go far enough
    and have a gumball while we're there!  Oh, sorry, wrong note!  :-)
    
    RE: Doug...yeah, I'll help with the ski stuff...no problem.  I also
    *might* consider tossing some of that salt water gear in my car, but I
    dunno how my car will react.  It doesn't do salt water!  :-)
    
    ...Roger...

    in re-reading my last reply, i forgot to volunteer "myself"
    i have a pick-up with a cap.
    
    Jim.  (who's_getting_ready_to_do_this_eh_eh_eh)
    
    

	I can help with the hauling, Roger's hatchback could just 
about park in the back of my 'burb (-:   BTW, we do all know that 
inventory like this  "SHRINKS"  in transit, right ?

	re  the ski stuff:  I'd like us to make sure that Ed 
Belliev(however_he_spells_it) at Water_Skis Plus in Spencer gets a 
chance to bid on it, even if it means making a separate list.  He's 
about the only store that supports the sport in this area and I don't
mind paying a coupla percent over catalogue prices to help support him 
and his store. 

	Reg

    I'm reading all this stuff about merchandise pick-up, volunteers
    (including myself) to help, etc., but is this premature?  I know it's
    good to plan ahead, but there are lots of folks who have expressed an
    interest in participating in this purchase, but there are still lots of
    notes of the variety "Put me on the list, my detailed list will follow
    shortly" that have not been updated.  Are we really ready to select
    vendor(s)?  I get the feeling that there are lots of folks watching
    this note waiting to hear someone say "Well, here's the list of things
    people have said they want, and here's the best price for each.  Are
    you in or out?"  I don't think that's what's going to happen.
    
    Am I concerned for nothing?  Jim, what's our status?
    
    ...Roger...  eagerly_awaiting_the_word

    Re: .77 
    I am one of those that said sign me up and my list will follow.  I have
    bugun to consolidate a list and will be prioritizing it soon.  I ended
    up with a list that would cost about $5,000 more than I have to spend
    on my boat.  So, I am working to figuire out what items are most
    essential (ie 300' of anchor rode vs a spot light).
    
    Soooo, My list is in the mail!
    
    Second point!
    I mentioned an acquaintance at my boating course  who was interested in
    bidding on the list.  His name is:
    
    Calvin Moore
    c/o Moore Lumber Co.
    22 West Main St. 
    Ayer, Mass. 01436
    
    I spoke with him last night and he is interested in supplying what ever
    he might bid the best on!
    
    I'll have my list soon!
    
    Rich

RE: .78

>    I mentioned an acquaintance at my boating course  who was interested in
>    bidding on the list.  His name is:
>    
>    Calvin Moore
>    c/o Moore Lumber Co.
>    22 West Main St. 
>    Ayer, Mass. 01436

I would have extreme reservations about placing an order with anyone who 
was not a legitimate dealer.  I would think considerations regarding 
product quality, returnability, etc. are key to determining who would be 
awarded the business.  

Based on the number of replies I would presume that the dollar value of 
this business is quite high.  High enough to interest legitimate marine 
suppliers.

Thoughts?

Carl

    Re: .53
    Bruce, you said you got a 30% discount on new and rebuilt props from
    H&H. I assume this is to purchase them. Do you have any additional info
    on discounts for repairs? Would this also be a 30% discount?
    Also, would all the props have to be brought in at the same time or
    would this be an open ended thing?..
    Doug (member of the bent prop club)

    RE.77 
    
    Roger, your concerns are valid. I have the same concerns. I just
    havn't said it as yet. I need specific data, back several notes
    there is a form someone suggested we use. I NEED THE DATA.
    NO DATA, NO LISTS TO SEND OUT FOR BIDS.
    
    On sending out a list to a vendor who specializes, i'd suggest
    you poll the participants, and see if they agree on paying
    a few more $$ to support a vendor. It maybe worhtwhile to
    buy from him to keep him in your area.
    
    I SET THE DEADLINE FOR DEC. 30, 89, FOR LIST SUBMITTAL.
    ARE WE GONNA MAKE IT?????????????????????????????
    
    JIM.

    My first pass on props with H&H yields the following. Clubs or
    large groups can get a 10% discount on new props and rebuilding.
    They only offer the larger discounts to large commercial accounts
    such as boat yards that gaurentee volumes. I am not sure how I ended
    getting the 30% discount I got in the spring, they must have thought
    my rod building would turn out to be a large volume business...
    
    So bottom line is we can expect a 10% discount (forgot to ask if
    MA tax would apply for new props or not) if we go to H&H.
                                                                    
    Has any one done a tally on how many new props and how many rebuilds
    we will have? These should be classifed as either Aluminum or Stainless
    since the price is based on this.
    
    Bruce

    
    	I volunteer to keep the prop list......
    
    	send ARCHER::SUTER and state rebuild/new, type, pitch/size
    
    	Rick
    

    Thanks, Rick. Send me a snap shot of it once and a while.
    
    Bruce

    I hadn't added to this list as I wasn't sure what, if any, boat
    I might have this spring. It seems as if the Sea Ray is to be fixed
    so here it my list. Of course if it costs more to fix than expected
    than I may not be able to order all, or have to substitute a less
    expensive item.

    John L. Gunnerson    508-897-3481
    119 Parker Street    DTN 291-8995
    Maynard, MA 01754
********************************************************************************
_______________________________________________________________________________
|ITEM DESCRIPTION	      |  BRAND    |	 MODEL	     |QTY|  PRICE     |
|			      |	          |	NUMBER	     |	 | TO BEAT    | 
|_____________________________|___________|__________________|___|____________|
 Loran                          Micrologic  "Explorer"         1   $579

 Electronic compass             KVH         Azimuth 100        1   $300

 Depth sounder                  Standard    DS-20              1   $180       

 Deepset Standard anchor        Danforth    D-1150             2   $42

 Type III Life vest, Large      Omega       yellow Grand Prix  1   $35
    
 Type III Life vest, Small      Omega       yellow Grand Prix  1   $35
    
 12V Boat vacuum cleaner	Powerwinch  M6733              1   $25
                                                                      
|_____________________________|___________|__________________|___|____________|
    

    What a GREAT thing you've got going here...
    Even this is something the wife will buy off on.
    
    I'm interested in a new radio and antenna, misc. maintenance items.
    I'll forward my list with brands and model numbers.
    
    I'm also interested in the club that was mentioned earlier.
    
    John Costes              Hyster::Costes

    
    	So far all we have is 5 props for rebuild....
    
    	Didn't anyone else bang up their prop this summer? 
    
    	BTW: It doesn't have to mangled to need a rebuild.....
    
    	Rick

re  <<< Note 547.87 by TOMCAT::SUTER "Gentlemen, start your *marine* engines!" >>>
>                              -< Any more props? >-

    
>    	So far all we have is 5 props for rebuild....
    
>    	Didn't anyone else bang up their prop this summer? 
    
>    	BTW: It doesn't have to mangled to need a rebuild.....
    
>    	Rick

	I hear YA !   So, do I HAFFTA 'fess up to bein' a klutz here ? 

I did OK for most of the season, then BANG, BANG, BANG;  yep, three in
about as many weeks - unfortunately I've already had two of 'em done
and the third is waiting for me to pick it up. 

	R

    
    
    re: Reg
    
    	Of course there are other methods to repair a prop.... :-) 
    :-)  :-)
    
    

    Yep, I have an aluminum 13.25 x 17 OMC that I need repaired.
    
    ~jeff @ CSLALL:JEGREEN

Count me in for 13.25 X 19 for Merc/Mariner.  I told the young lady driving
to keep far to the right to avoid the rocks, little did I know the "rocks"
was a stone wall !!!

I've gotten a price of $38 if I want to take it to Warwick R.I.

Al

    please add me to your interest list.
    thanks.
    
    TLE::ROSSI
    
	-great idea!
         Cindy
    

--->	So far all we have is 5 props for rebuild....


	Does this include the prop repair in .48?  If not include 2 Volvo 290
	props (14x17 if I remember correctly) a left and a right hand rotation.

	Dave "Harpoonist"

Well I am still creating my shopping list.  I stopped down at US Boat the 
other night to check on model numbers and prices.  I am impress by how 
competitive their member prices are.

My boat is a 19' Stuery Center Console with dual in Hull fuel tanks.  I 
have a 140hp Evenrude on it.  I will be ocean fishing and hopefully diving 
with it.  I think that covers required data for assessing these questions.

Anyway, I am looking for some help with some of the items I am looking for.
First: I need some fenders.  I looked at AMCO's De-fenders 5"X19".  These
are inflatable.  Are inflatable fenders better than non-inflatable? 

2nd:	I need a new signaling kit.  I liked the Sky Blazer aerial flares 
because of their altitude.  The kit I looked at was their Sigma Signal.  I 
couldn't find a model number, but the price wwas $42.95.  Anyone know the 
model to ensure I get the right one?  Anyone have any other comments on 
this item?  It included Aerial, Hand held flares, smoke and Flag(2)? I think.

3rd:	I want to replace/augment my fire extinguisher.  I have taken the 
CGAux Boating Course so I understand/am aware of the text book info.  But, 
what has been individual's experience?  My boat is open.  In a gust do any 
work?  Halon and CO2 are best in confined areas.  Do they work at all in 
the open?  Is Dry chemical the best solution?  

I tend to lean toward an extinguisher that can handle all three types of 
fires.  What do I sacrifice?

My current choice is the Fyre Fyghter 2A10BC Dry chemical model.  Any 
comments?

4th:	What fuel line hose do people use?  I found some precut in 10' 
lengths.  I haven't measured my requirements yet, but I don't think a 10' 
section would be nearly enough.  What brand is recommended?

5th:	What is used for in line fuel/water filters?  Are there significant 
differences in brands?
    
When is the final deadline for summitting orders?

    Sorry about that,
    
    Thanks for the advice,
    Rich

    I finally pulled the list together.
    My price to beat assumes no sales taxes.
    
    Have a Happy New Year!
    
    Carl
    
    Carl Redfield 223-5656
    SSGVAX::REDFIELD
********************************************************************************
_______________________________________________________________________________
|ITEM DESCRIPTION	      |  BRAND    |	 MODEL	     |QTY|  PRICE     |
|			      |	          |	NUMBER	     |	 | TO BEAT    | 
|_____________________________|___________|__________________|___|____________|
|			      |		  |                  |   |          	
 Inflatable Boat/Red 		AVON           R310 (rover)    1    $ 1350
   with seat & bowdodger

 100 watt power inverter	STATPOWER      SP100	       1       120
   12vDC to 120vAC

 Power Anchor Windlass		SIMPSON        Anchorman       1       700
   w/pushbutton switch &	LAWRENCE       Power 700G
   300 ft 3/8" line 
   w/8'chain matched 
   for windlass (rope/chain gypsy)

 SS Propane Barbecue with	MAGMA			       1       100
   fishon rod holder mount

    Jim,  Whats the status on the big Marine Purchase ?
    
         ....Any idea at this point in time, how many vendors you're
               gonna send the list out to for bidding ?
    
    /MArk

    I have 2 at this time, 
    
    My marina, and Walt Gibson. I'm open to suggestions.
    
    Jim.
    
    

    
    I have recieved a total of 6 lists to date.
    
    they are from:
    
    Gunnerson
    Kenney
    Auger
    Palumbo
    Yelinek
    Klotz
    
    If you submitted a list and it does not appear it was because:
    
    1. i screwed up and didn't include it, in this case send it to
       me directly.
    
    2. your list was incomplete, and it did not include enough info
       for me to use it.
    
    How about the 15th of Jan. as a revised deadline.
    
    Jim.

    
    
    
    
    With 90 some odd replies to this note I would have expected more lists!

    

    
    Sorry for the delay here's mine
    
    A second anchor (danforth type)
    A second battery with bypass switch
    New hardware ie. cleats
    A baby life jacket for the new skipper

    re .101  I'm sorry that i cannot make use of your list, although
             i do appreciate your response. Back awhile ago (past notes)
             someone suggested a format to used used for generating
             your list. 
    
    Basically the format gives me the info i need to send out 
    to suppliers, it specifically identifies the item.
    
    FURHTER INFO. I recieved a list from Davis Pan this a.m.
                  this bring our total to 8.
    
    
    Jim.

    Am I correct that the Prop repair/rebuild went bust?  If so I will send
    mine out myself.
    
    Thanks,
    Rich

    
    re: Prop repair....
    
    	I called H&H today and must call back tomorrow to talk to 
    the correct person. I'll post the results tomorrow...
    
    Rick

re                    <<< Note 547.98 by HYEND::J_BORZUMATO >>>
>                               -< 2 so far..... >-

>    I have 2 at this time, 
    
>    My marina, and Walt Gibson. I'm open to suggestions.
    
>    Jim.

	There's a rave write up of Marine Exchange in the s**l*ng 
conference.  Somebody said they'd matched or beaten all the defender
catalogue prices and had much more of the items in stock than 
defender.  FWIW;  somewhere around Danvers or Peabody I think, though 
from the notes they seem to have a store in Marblehead.

	R

re .105:

That's SAILING, Reg. If you need any more help with your vowels, do call.

Vanna

    	Well the Prop repair saga continues.... I spoke with
    "Mrs's Martin" at H&H who abrasively informed me the only
    Organized businesses can get discounts. She stated that H&H
    was "protecting" the boat yards...

    	So unless one of us can qualify as an eligible business, then
    I guess H&H is out of the question... any other suggestions?

    Rick

    	Hey.... I heard that Vanna was constipated.... No vowel movement...
    :-)

    Gawd did that stink, Rick!  :-)  You must be severely infected with
    cabin fever!!  :-)
    
    Hey Jim, did Mike Smith contact you about him speaking with someone
    in Florida this week (he's at BI all week, the bum!)?  He said he
    may know of someone else to send our list to.
    
    ...Roger...

    re: .105,106,107.
    
    105, on the Marine Exch. i've done business there before, they
         will be on the list for sure.
    
    106, we don't allow the use of Vulgarities in this notes file,
         such as the "S" word, there are severe penalties for this.
         I'm sure the moderator would support this. BTW hope you 
         feel better....................
    
    
    107, on H&H, a friend of mine was up there last year, and
         they had the balls to feed him the "zinc is short supply
         and very hard to get" so they charged full list price
         for them. He's new to larger boats and never had to buy 
         zincs before. If they're protecting the boat yards
         their stupid, who's protecting them.
    
    
    
    Jim.

    Rog, Mike called last week, i don't see any problem, he's gonna
    bring back some info.
    
    One more thing, yesterday was the deadline, all totalled,
    we might crack  $6k. Big do-ins....
    
    Jim.  

RE: .107          -< Organized Crime? >-

    >    	Well the Prop repair saga continues.... I spoke with
>    "Mrs's Martin" at H&H who abrasively informed me the only
>    Organized businesses can get discounts. She stated that H&H
>    was "protecting" the boat yards...

>    	So unless one of us can qualify as an eligible business, then
>    I guess H&H is out of the question... any other suggestions?

    .........and did we forget Bruce? 
    
Note 547.53           Volume Purchase of Marine Equipment..            53 of 110
LEVERS::SWEET "Capt. Codfish...GW Fishing Team"      11 lines   6-NOV-1989 15:47
                                 -< Props... >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I was able to get a 30% discount on new and rebuilt props from
    H&H this year when I used my Rod Building tax number. They almost
    opened me an account but they I did not have enough credit references.
    Based on this I am sure we could work something out with them with
    the kind of volume we are talking. 
     			-----------------------
    Bruce, Tell H&H you own a huge marina in Tewksbury.
    

    
    Should be no big deal.  Spend 10 bucks, get a sales tax number.
    Make up a letter head on one of your nearby laser printers, and
    your an organized business - probably more organized than some
    folks I have seen in the boat business.
    
    BTW - Either deliver the gear in NH, or collect and dutifully
    pay the Mass sales tax.
    
    Don
    

    It seems that I have missed the January 15 deadline for ordering.  I
    just came across this note today.  However, I would like to be put on
    the list of interested persons for future group buys and for the "DEC"
    Boating club.  My soon-to-be-husband and I purchased a 28' Bayliner
    late last fall and needless to day we are looking for a lot of things
    to make her "safe and sound" for boating this summer.  I am at:
    
    	DELNI::samra
    
    Thanks

    Hey did you guys forget "Bluejackets Marine Suppy Co"?? I havn't seen
    the list as yet?
    
    As far as H&H prop rebuild goes. ether call Bruce about it or me.
    
    So when is the list going out???
    
                                         Walt
    

	re  props  'n such....

	I have started some conversations with NAMP  (North American 
Marine Propeller, you wouldn't have guessed, right ?).

	We  *_MIGHT_*  be able to get a  "discount for employees of a
large company that has a big electronic network that spreads product 
info like free advertizing, so we'd like yer business"  deal.  Also, 
they may be able to help us with leveraging the repair shops - but of 
course they don't want to hurt the retailers.  The partners are going 
to discuss it all.

	I'll be getting stuff in the mail some time early next week, 
will post then.

	Reg

    Need some insight as to whether I should wait for quotes or should
    I buy my AVON at one of the boats shows...
    
    Thanks
    
    Carl

re .116	 Me too  -  should I clean up on  "Boat show specials"  ?  or wait ?

	R

	{do I have any money ?  (-:, (-:}

    I'd certainly give it a shot, you might do better.
    
    Give it a shot, let us know...
    
    Jim.

I was asked by my Squadron (Minute Man) to represent USPS at the booth at the 
Boston Boat show on Sunday, and I did. While I was there I had a little time to
walk around the floor. I couldn't take a lot of time, and like a dummy I forgot
to bring my catalogs with me for price comparison purposes, but it seemed to me
that a lot of "Boat Show Specials" weren't all that special. There were some 
that did seem pretty good to me though. You've really got to know the prices for
the things you want before going in. The problem that comes up is when you 
decide at the show that what you thought you wanted (and knew the prices of) 
isn't what you really want or need and see something else that would be better,
offered at a special price. Since you haven't been considering that item there 
is a good chance you don't know the prices for it and may end up paying more 
than necessary.

In my case I was looking at inexpensive ($250-$320) Lorans in the boat catalogs.
At the show I found that I could get the Micrologic Voyager US1 Loran from the
Bliss Booth for $350. That seemed like an eceptionally good price, but I wasn't
sure since I had previously considered it too expensive and hadn't memorized the
prices on it. They showed me there latest catalog there where it was priced at
$420. When I got home the lowest price I could find was in the Outer Banks 
catalog for $380. So, $350 Boat Show Price (not available at Bliss stores) for 
the Voyager US1 by Micrologic seems to be a pretty good one.

On the other hand I was also looking for a digital depth sounder. I was looking
at the Standard DS20 ($170 catalogs). At the boat show it was priced at $150, 
but I discovered that I really didn't like the the DS20 afterall and they showed
me the Humminbird HDR-400 bracket mount for $200 (I've seen $220 in catalogs).
Though it was more to my liking $200 was more than I could spend. Then they 
suggested buying the Humminbird LCR-400 fishfinder instead, because they claimed
it provided the digital depth information I wanted, plus a graphic of the bottom
with indications of fish all for less money than either of the digital only 
displays. $140 was the price. Based on their other good prices I thought that
that was probably a good price. It was, but wasn't as low as Overton's ($130),
and was no less than Outer Banks anytime, as I found out when I got home. You
see, I hadn't been considering a fishfinder, but here it was being offered as a
plausible alterntive to a digital depth finder, and I really didn't know much
about them, including prices.

So, you've got to know your prices going in, and you've got to be careful. And I
would take a catalog or two with me just in case you find yourself going down 
another path.

John

    It is a very good possibility that I will not be working here at DEC
    come spring. Reasons are that I am here as a contractor and my contract
    is up in March. Also the big reason is that I will have my nifty new
    business degree come may and I want/need a permanant position with a
    company where I can utilize my talents and get paid what I'm worthy of.
    
    So for those of you who need/want any marine accessories from A to Z
    and want to contact me to get them for you at a discount, you will have
    to contact me at my home phone. A lot of you allready have it but I'll
    give it out once again. (508) 957-5865
    
                                           Walt
    

    I will make sure that out list reaches you before your 
    tentative departure, if at all.
    
    Jim.

    ........sooooooo does that mean our lists are out for quote?
    
                       or are we still accumulating peoples lists?
    
    /MArk

    I got sidetracked here, and was not able to spend the time
    i intended. I need to put it up on my account and mail it
    out to each of the "list owners". i'll post a note here
    that indicates when it went out, in case someone does not
    recieve it, at least they will know it went out.
    
    Jim.
    

    I am sending out a purchace order for RACOR  fuel water separater
    filters tonight. The  spin on canister types. They come 10 in a case
    and I only need two. Who else uses these & would want to go in on a
    case of them. I'll get the prices tommorow, but they are at wholesale.
    you won't do better at any dealers.
    
                                        Walt
    

    Walt,
    I am interested.  I don't know if they are universal or not?  Mine
    looks like an oil filter.  Are the rubber wash diameters standard?  I
    am willing to take two.  One for this year one for next.
    
    Thanks,
    Rich

    
    I'm interested in 2, what model are they for?
    
    					Kenny

    I'll take a couple also...
    Doug Whynot 
    

re               <<< Note 547.124 by PACKER::GIBSON "DTN225-5193" >>>
>                   -< Racor Gas Fuel/Water filter elements >-

>    I am sending out a purchace order for RACOR  fuel water separater
>    filters tonight. The  spin on canister types. They come 10 in a case

	Yeah, I'd like to take a couple - if they're 
compatable/universal.

	Mine is a Fram FCS1136M.  With only a "few" hours on the boat 
I havn't replaced it yet, but the book says to just drain out the 
water from the bottom every{depends on your usage} hours.  It looks 
like a car/truck canister type oil filtre on the outside, but the 
picture in the book suggests that it comes apart and the filtre 
element inside is what gets replaced, i.e. it ain't a disposable unit. 
This is on a PCM marinized ford 351.

	Reg

    
    I'll see if I can get cross referances for diferent engines & elements.
    
    Reg. I would think they would be the same for all PCM's I have a PCM
    350.cu
    
    I'll get back to you all tommorow.
    
                             Walt
    

    
    
    I looked up the part # of the RACOR filter elements last  night. 
    
    The ones that I neen are the #R26. They fit filter Modle 225MAMG (GAS)
     or Filter # 225MAM (desil)
    
    
    The Mercrusier p/n is 35-6094-1 Cross ref. to Racor #S3220ul (element)
    The OMC  p/n is #174144 Cross ref to.Racor #S3221ul (element)
    
    I'm sending in papers for pricing info today. I should have it next
    week.
    
     Walt
    

    Walt, suppose 6 people wanted to buy ...say...the ICOM M-11 VHF
    Handheld (6 watts). Can you get these radios at WHOLESALE? 
           [I'd be interested in one]
    
    Best RETAIL price I've seen was $360. I would imagine Wholesale
    prices would offer substantially more savings. 

    /MArk

    
      I'm DEFINITELY interested in a volume purchase of the Icom M11.
    
    					Ken Chace

    Walt,
      Do you have a list of X-ref #'s?  The filter/seperator I'm looking
    for is a SMI corp. #SMF494. (NAPA couldn't X-ref this #.)  This is
    also the spin-on type and is used with a Indmar model 300SP (Chev 350
    4-bolt) and remotely mounted.
    Thanks,
    Doug 

    re: ICOMS
    
    Sorry Guys, I checked some of my wholesalers and none of them carry the
    ICOM? I'll check into ICOM company and find out how/why & where or
    Whatever?  I can get my hands on lots of other brands.
    
    SMI? I believe that line is carried by BLISS marine. Might want to give
    them a ring. 
    
    
    A little Contest: Think up a name for a Marine Supply Buyers Club?
    
    Winner gets a free pat on the back, and of course the chance to
    partisipate.
    
                                         Walt
    

re               <<< Note 547.134 by PACKER::GIBSON "DTN225-5193" >>>

>    re: ICOMS
    
>    Sorry Guys, I checked some of my wholesalers and none of them carry the
>    ICOM? I'll check into ICOM company and find out how/why & where or
>    Whatever?  I can get my hands on lots of other brands.

	There's a place on Rte 119, still in Littleton I think but 
close to the Groton line.  They cater mostly to radio hams and I'm 
pretty sure they carry ICOM.  The name is  TELE-COM(M)  maybe two Ms or 
one, they might be worth approaching for a quantity deal on something 
they rarely get a chance to sell.

    
    A little Contest: Think up a name for a Marine Supply Buyers Club?

	"DECEMSBC"   -  howze zat ?

	digital equipment corp employees mari<...what you said>
    

	R

    
    DECEMSB? How do you pronouce that?
    
    How about something like B.oaters
                             B.uyers 
                             C.lub
    
               or  M.arine 
                   A.ccessories
                   P.urchace 
                   O.rganization
    
    Something on that line??
    
    Reg. I think you "missed the boat" The Concept is to buy direct from
    the Manufactures or from their Distrubiters. The "Club" would be the
    Retail outlet for its members. The more members involved, the larger
    the purchaces & hence the bigger the discount. Merchandise would be
    marked up only enough to cover expences and the whole "Club" could be
    run at a Close to Zero Tax base.
    
                              Whatdayathink?
    
                                      Walt
     

re                     <<< Note 547.8 by TYCOBB::J_BORZUMATO >>>
    
>    Just one further note in general: I want to have all the lists with
>    the specifics, by JAN 15, 1990. This is usually a slow time for
>    these folks, any later and their off thinking about boat shows
>    and other things. Best to hit them in the lull, BETTER PRICES.

	Duhh,   its been a while.......

	Has anyone come back with a quote ?

	Should we resort to  "Boat show specials" ?

	FWIW, defender sez 12% off manufacturer's suggested list price 
for all props  -  I didn't try to negotiate coz I wasn't buyin', just 
gathering info for Y'all.

	Reg