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Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

467.0. " MOORING DATA NEEDED" by GIAMEM::BURBINE () Tue Aug 08 1989 12:01

I live in Pocasset MA and currently the Shore and Harbor Committee is 
considering rewriting the waterways regulations. One of the biggest areas
of interest is how to charge for mooring permits, user fees etc.
I would like to get a compilation of fees and rules used in other locations.

Specifically data is needed on:

1. Fees charged for mooring permits privately owned.

2. Fees charged for parkin if any at launch areas.

3. Service charge for non-residents if any.

4. Fees charge for Town Marinas.

5. Requirements for mooring inspection if any(and charges).


Please include any other pertinent information not mentioned above that
you believe would help in writing new regulations for a town.

Thanks in advance as this data will absolutely help the town committee
responsible for this area in the town of Bourne.

norm

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467.1INFO FROM ACROSS THE BAYUSCTR2::HWYDOMTue Aug 08 1989 15:1929
    Here's the info on Wareham...... Not too far from you.
    
    Mooring permits must be renewed yearly -- fee is $15.00
    You are issued a number which must be painted opn the buoy, and
    a sticker which is placed on the winshield or some other visible
    area of the boat.  The harbor patrol checks for these.  Don't know
    the penalty off-hand for no mooring registration.  If you have a
    sticker on the boat and are in need of a tow, the harbor patrol
    will bring you in free.  Although I've never had the experience,
    I understand that with out the sticker there is a substantial fee.
    You keep the same number from year to year.
    
    The fee for parking at the launch ramp is $7.00/day if you do not
    have a town sticker.  Note the sticker for taxpayers allows parking
    at the beaches, ramp use, and use of the landfill for no charge.
    Don't remember exactly, but I think the sticker along with a resident
    shellfish permit cost me around $20.00.
    
    Town marina facilities are limited, at the launching ramp, and near
    the center of town at the bridge.  No charge to my knowledge.
    
    I have never had my mooring inspected, unless it was done when I
    wasn't around.  When you get you rpermit however you must giv ea
    description of the boat (size, color, engine, registration #, serial
    #, etc).  They give you a guideline as to the type and weight of the 
    required mooring.
             
    You should contact the harbormaster for any additional specifics.
    His office is located on the pier in Onset.
467.2Any port in a winecellarPACKER::GIBSONI'm the NRATue Aug 08 1989 19:0921
    Hi Norm.    Long time no sea?
    
    I applied for a mooring in Salem this spring and this is the scoop.
    They charge $30. year to keep your boat on a mooring. $5 per year
    to keep a mooring without a boat (nice feature).
    
    The Harbormaster tel # is (508) 741-0098. Ask for the application
    package. It will give you a list of mooring block/anchor sizes allong
    with chain required for Salem. There are a couple of different area's
    they cover. 
    1) Winter Island: Very Exposed with hard bottom  Blocks only & lots
    of chain.
    2) Kernwood: Very sheltered with muck (***) bottom. Mushrooms &
    blocks. 
    
    Both area's required FOAM blocks & winter sticks for floats.
    
    P.S. Need a diver to help lift the Quohog's out of they way? :^)
    
                                                Walt
    
467.3What are *your* needs as a town?SMVDV1::JGUNNERSONJLGWed Aug 09 1989 15:0534
    Norm, I know that you think that you are doing the right thing, and you
    probably are, but I hate to see it. It's the "let's see what the other
    guy is charging, and match his price - why should we lose out?" theory.
    Which is why we have $100/ft slips and $15,000 "economy" cars.
    
    Fist I would establish what your town's needs are. What is the
    availability of space for mooring and parking at ramps. What is the
    population of the town, and is access to the water for their boats an
    integral part of their lives. What kind of growth has there been,
    and are their any good predictions for future growth. Is the town
    trying to fund non-water related activies from fees gained from
    water access/use?
    
    Next I would determine what the priorities of the town are. Do we only
    care about residents, or are visitor's and their needs important to us
    and our economy? Do we want to incourage or discourage any practices?
    
    With that information in hand I'd establish a draft list of fees and
    regulations for certain pratices that meet the requirements and
    priorities of the town.
    
    Finally, I'd look at the neighbor's to see what they are doing. Are
    they charging a lot less? Then you might lose some of the money you
    expected as people go next door to pay the lower fees. Are they
    charging a lot more? Then you may get more people coming in then you
    expected if one of your concerns was the numbers of people trying to
    boat in your town. Obviously here is a chance to make more money by
    raising fees to match those around you - and offer the age old excuse,
    "that's what the others charge". But do you need to, to accomplish your
    goals? Are your fees so high that the average person living in town is
    going to be burdened by them? Are the regulations so unreasonable that
    people will have to use vacation time just to sort through them all? 
     
    john
467.4Winter Mooring?BRWSKI::RESKERMon Aug 14 1989 20:2310
    I'm going to take this opportunity to ask a question that I'll need an
    answer to fairly soon.
    
    What should I use for a winter mooring buoy?  I assume I just take off
    my normal mooring buoy and attach some piece of wood?  What type, what
    size, what preparation?
    
    thanks in advance.
    
    tim
467.5Winter STICKSGIAMEM::BURBINETue Aug 15 1989 18:3913
re.                    < Note 467.4 by BRWSKI::RESKER >
                              -< Winter Mooring? >-

    What should I use for a winter mooring buoy?  
_________________________________________________________________
Tim I tried to send you vmsmail to no avail(improper login info 
your account replies). If you wish to discuss your question 
please give me a call at dtn 296-3236  or call
Harbor Mooring and Engineering at
508-563-3163. 

norm