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Conference vicki::boats

Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

858.0. "Restaurants on the water" by DASXPS::MFLAHERTY () Mon Jun 17 1991 00:11

    
    
       I was wondering if anyone might know of any restaurants on or near
   Boston Harbor that will allow you to dock there while you eat. Someone
   told me that you could at Anthony's Pier4. Is this true?
    
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858.1Not Anthony'sKENNY::CHESTERMon Jun 17 1991 15:228
    I didn't see any place near Anthony's to dock.  So I guess no go.
    You could try Boston Waterboat marina.  They charge by the hour to 
    dock if your are only there a few hours.  It is right next to the
    Charthouse.  there is a sign near constitution marina that says 
    call on ch 16 to arrange docking while you eat at thier restaurant.
    
    KEn C
    
858.2Try Rowes WharfGOLF::FSMITHWed Jun 19 1991 11:5414
    You can also dock by the hour at Rowes Wharf/Boston Harbor Hotel and
    walk to The Sail Loft and other North End spots for Italian food. I
    believe that if you asked nicely, the Massport police might let you tie
    up at the fishpier (2 piers over from Anthonys), especially on a
    weekend when the pier is not busy. You could then go to the No Name,
    Jimmy's, Jimbo's, or even Anthony's 'Barn'. The drawback to the fish
    pier is that you would have to climb up a ladder and your boat would be
    riding up and down against the pier pilings, since there is no floating
    dock. One other spot is Marina Bay in Quincy/Squantum. You can tie up
    by the hour and there are some spots to eat as well as shops to visit.
    Rowes Wharf and Marina Bay can be reached on channel 16 on your VHF.
    
    Fred Smith
    
858.3On the CharlesSALEM::LAYTONWed Jun 19 1991 15:498
    This is stretching it a bit, but there is a basin with bollards near
    the Museum of Science at Cambridgeside, or some such, it's a fancy
    Mall.  The Middlesex Court houses are about 2 blocks away if you want
    to sue someone after supper, I guess...  Depth is either 4 or 6 feet,
    there are signs.  There is also only about 10 - 15 feet clearance under
    a bridge.  
    
    Carl
858.4IS IT AN EMERGENCY TO BE HUNGRY?BOSOX::MFLAHERTYWed Jun 19 1991 20:188
    
    
      Thanks for the info. I always thought that CH.16 was only supposed to
    be for emergencies. I always here people trying to hail each other and
    then the Coast Guard comes on (recording?) and says that CH.16 is to be
    used strictly for emergencies and to use CH.9 for hailing. I'd hate to
    get busted just for trying to get something to eat, but I guess if it
    says to use CH.16 then it's allright??? 
858.5TOOK::SWISTJim Swist LKG2-2/T2 DTN 226-7102Thu Jun 20 1991 12:0115
    Unless they've changed the rules, channel 16 is used for "calling"
    (I don't know what "hailing" is in VHF terms).   For any business,
    you establish contact on 16 and then switch to a working channel
    immediately.   I suspect that as technology moves forward and
    scanner type functions become standard in a VHF, the FCC will start
    separating the calling and emergency functions because everyone's
    radio will be able to hear a call on either channel.
    
    What is less clear to be is the FCC regs on using the radio at all. 
    The wording reads something like "emergency, safety, and other
    business-related communication relative to the operation of the
    vessel".  While they obviously mean to exclude random chit-chat, it
    is not obvious where things like calling for a dinner reservation fall.
    Also the chatter among commercial fisherman is often unrelated to the
    business at hand.  So who knows.
858.6Try 9 then 16 for lunchKENNY::CHESTERThu Jun 20 1991 15:418
    Since ??-may this year channel 16 in Boston harbor is a distress only
    channel.  Hailing/calling is to be done on 9.  So much for the rules.
    Many signs and cruising guides tell you to use ch 16.  So try this.
    call/hail on ch 9 if no answer then try 16.   Not everyone is compliant
    yet and some of the signs may be old.
    
    Ken C
     
858.7$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$BOSOX::MFLAHERTYThu Jun 20 1991 18:204
    I stopped by Pier 7 next to Jimmy's Harborside today and talked with
    someone at the office. They get $10.00 an hour. So figure about 2
    hours to get seated, eat, and relax. Is it me or is that kinda steep?
    
858.8Everything is Boston is steep compared to NHMSCSSE::FRENCHBill French ZKO3-3/X8 381-1859Fri Jun 21 1991 11:395
    Well, yeah, that's kind of steep - but have you tried parking a car
    in Boston lately? That's steep, too.
    
    b
    
858.9exTIROTH::SCHAEFERFri Jun 21 1991 13:0513
    
       The Quarter Deck. Just north of where the Courageous is tied up.
    
       The Lighthouse. South of the Boston sailing club moorings. Cruise up
      the channel. It's on the left, near the milk bottle. 
    
       I've tied up at the fish pier many times with no charge. You have to 
      stay clear of the fishin' boats though. 
    
        'cours I'm in a 13' Whaler. Looks like a tender for one of the big
      rigs.  :)
    
     Bob S.
858.10Seaport Marina Fairhaven, Ma Buzzards BayHPSTEK::HOBBSFri Jun 21 1991 15:3316
	I realize the base note asked about the Boston area, but it might
also be interesting to include other areas.  If that's OK Mr. Moderator ?
I'm docked at Seaport Marina in Fairhaven, Ma. on Buzzards Bay (81 miles
from Commonwealth Pier according to Eldridge).  The Marina has a Hotel and
Restaurant and provides dockage for people using the restaurant.
	I know there is another restaurant on Westport River just before
you get to the bridge, but the name escapes me.
	Two years ago, on Naraganset Bay I stopped at East Passage Boat
Basen (or Bend Boat Basen) for fuel and lunch in their restaurant.
	I understand there are restaurants at Pickering (sp?) Wharf in
Salem which provide dockage for customers as well.
	This is a neat note.  I would be interested in information on other
restaurants as well as other usefull data, like watch for old pilings, or
don't try at low tide with draft greater than 4 feet.

	Rick 
858.11TOOK::SWISTJim Swist LKG2-2/T2 DTN 226-7102Fri Jun 21 1991 16:0328
    Yeah.  An index of restaurants you can dock at is a great idea.  Maybe
    after enough postings to this topic, we could re-organize it by
    location.
    
    Here's some in Maine:
    
    1) Boothbay Harbor 
    
    Lobsterman's co-op.  Inddor/outdoor
    lobster/clamshack type place.
    
    There are docks are several other restaurants but I haven't tried any
    of them.
    
    2) Southport Island  (Townsend Gut)
    
    Robinson's Wharf.  Same kind of place as Lobsterman's Co-op
    
    Ocean Gate Inn.    More like a real restaurant.  Also has breakfast and
                     Sunday Brunch.
    
    
    3) Arrowsic Island
    
    The Osprey.   At Robinhood Marina.   A *very* good restaurant serving
                       amazingly refined food considering half the
                       clientele is wearing boat junk.
    
858.12TOOK::SWISTJim Swist LKG2-2/T2 DTN 226-7102Fri Jun 21 1991 16:138
    BTW, let's stick to restaurants that you *know* you can tie up at.
    
    For example, I left out quite a few places at or near a public dock 
    intended for short-term tie up only.   Of course, you could tie a
    tender up there probably but then this little dinner trip is starting
    to get awfully complicated.   I believe all the places listed so far
    encourage tie up at the restaurant...
    
858.13exTIROTH::SCHAEFERFri Jun 21 1991 16:478
    
     Also the Sail loft, the next slips north of the Marriot.
    
     Pizza Uno is in the new mall near MIT. Out door tables. As someone
    else mentioned, turn right after the old locks in the Charles river, in
    front of the science museum, under bridge...
    
       -bs
858.14Try cape ann and northPENUTS::GORDONMon Jun 24 1991 15:1320
    In Newburyport there are public docks I believe it's $3 per hour and
    good restaurants within walking distance. 
    	The Captains quarters on the water and Michaels Harborside are both
    good.
    
    Watch out for the river mouth at low tide and a strong east wind.  It
    can be tricky at times
    
    In Essex on the essex river Tom Sheas has a dock where you can tie up
    for food and drinks.  It is nice.  The river is narrow and shallow but
    the channel is marked very good.  It's a nice ride thru the marsh.
    
    In Glouster ther are many that you can tie up at.  The outrigger on
    rocky neck is a great place.  There are usually many boats 'rafted'
    together by the dockmaster.
    Saw a night boat parade there one night last year.  In it was a
    cigarette boat with a sail on it named the right-of-way.
    
    Gordon
    
858.15Try Nynex boaters directoryPENUTS::GORDONMon Jun 24 1991 15:155
    I just remembered,  There are many placed listed int the Ninex boaters
    directory
    
    Gordon
    
858.16BOSOX::MFLAHERTYMon Jun 24 1991 17:543
    
    
      Where can you get a NYNEX boating directory?
858.17GOLF::WILSONThis area closed for renovationMon Jun 24 1991 19:1516
    
    RE: .16
    
    They give 'em away at the boat shows.  Or you can call 
    1-800-44-NYNEX for order forms according to my 1990 edition 
    (the '91 edition is at home).
    
    FYI, Until this year they published 9 versions which were:
    New England       NY/CT                NJ
    Southern CA       Pacific Northwest    Chesapeake Bay
    Northern CA       FL Gold Coast/Keys   FL Gulf Coast
    
    I read recently that all but the New England and one other
    edition were being dropped. 
    
    Rick
858.18Boat show'sPENUTS::GORDONTue Jun 25 1991 15:245
    I got mine at the in the water boat show in Boston and the World trade
    center.  I filled out the card and now I get one sent to me every year.
    
    Gordon
    
858.19Narragansett BayCALS::THACKERAYWed Jun 26 1991 21:5028
    I got out of Boston because there just ain't nowhere to tie up. Apart
    from that, the water is so polluted that even an atheist can walk on
    it. You can't SCUBA dive in it. You can't swim in it. you can't fish in it
    unless you want to find out that 30% of the fish there have visible
    tumours. It smells. It's a rip-off.
    
    Now I'm in Narragansett Bay, and as long as you avoid Newport, you can
    tie up next to a restaurant almost anywhere for free and have a nice
    meal, walk around the town, you name it. How about:
    
    	Shooter's, Providence. Huge dock, free except for gratuities,
    	friendly docking help, free sewerage head pump (YEAH!!) fantastic
    	large bar and restaurant with an easy walk to Providence night
    	and day life. Like nothing else anywhere in New England.
    
    	LobsterMania and others, East Greenwich. Plenty of places to tie
    	up, free. Beautiful town, great restaurants.
    
    	Warwick, same comments.
    
    	Point Judith, multiple places, a real seafaring town.
    
    Get the hell out of the Boston area, there's nothing to do there. Dock
    or moor in Narragansett Bay, where everything is prettier anyway. 
    
    And cheaper.
    
    Ray
858.20VHF CH-9 for Boston Harbor HailingTNPUBS::WASIEJKORetired CPOTue Jul 02 1991 11:5718
    Reference .6
    
    As of 1-May-91, in "BOSTON HARBOR ONLY," channel 16 is designated as a
    distress frequency only.  Channel 9 VHF is now the hailing frequency.
    
    The US Coast Guard does not monitor Channel 9 VHF.  It monitors CH-16
    VHF only (in all maritime areas).  Restaurants and other on-shore VHF
    stations must comply with these rules, and so would be required to
    operate on CH-9 VHF, unless reporting, or working with a distress
    situation.
    
    I suggest that the moderator copy this note to other appropriate
    sections of this notesfile, because of the recency of the info, and
    especially because the fourth of July week is upon us.
    
    Everyony enjoy a safe season on the water.
    
    	Boston Coastie
858.21Respect the River, and enjoyTNPUBS::WASIEJKORetired CPOTue Jul 02 1991 13:1066
    The Merrimack River has many fine restuarants in the Newburyport and
    Salisbury area, most of which can be reached from dockside.
    
    Let me begin by saying a few things about the mouth of the River.
    
    When negotiating the mouth of the Merrimack, avoid the hazards of
    crossing the infamous bar by hugging the North (Salisbury) jetty. 
    Passing between the red and green buoys located outside the mouth
    (over the bar) is only necessary if you need alot of water, like
    commercial barges, etc.  The north jetty offers enough water for
    pleasure craft at all tides, unless the bar light (located on the old
    Plum Island Coast Guard Station) is flashing.  If it is, my advice is
    eat somewhere else.  Or duck into the Salisbury Beach side of the North
    jetty and position yourself to wait out the tide or storm.
    
    If you must enter during Bar-lite conditions, stay away from the Plum
    Island jetties at all costs.  There is not much water on that side.
    Inform the Merrimack River Coast Guard of your intention and they will
    monitor you on remote TV and VHF.  Then adjust your speed to the speed
    of the waves and crawl up the back of a wave in front of you.  That way
    you have visibility and you know where the wave behind you is likely to
    be.  Listen for, and avoid breakers (you  can't always see them from
    seaward).  Your prop works less efficiently in surf and you could broach. 
    Once in, be aware of cross- and rip-currents until well in past number 8.  
    
    The mouth is usually not that bad.  When an Easterly wind opposes an
    outgoing tide, the turmoil will increase according to their intenities. 
    So an approaching storm just after high tide can make for a real spoiler.
    Show the river some respect and you'll probably have no problem on a
    normal day.  No guarantees, even for old salts, during a storm.
    
    
    Now for the rewards.
    
    
    Newburyport Restaurants:
    
    As mentioned in an earlier note, the town docks are a short walk from
    several restaurants.  Fee is 2.00/hour for a 25-foot class vessel.  May
    vary for larger vessels, which consume more dock space.
    
    o	The Galley Hatch (near the powerline tower on Water Street.
    	
    o	The Captain's Quarters (near Hilton's) great breakfasts too. 
    
    o	Michael's Harborside, next to the Rte-1 Bridge.  Food so-so, but I
    	hear they push good drinks and attract singles.
    
    o	The Grog (Downtown area), jut off of Main Street
    
    o	The Town Deli (sit-down or takeout subs, etc.) near Hilton's
    
    o	Many portable food stands during the weekend and especially on
    	Holidays and all during Yankee Homecoming.  Great sausages, etc.
    
    
    Salisbury:
    
    The Portside near the Bridge Marina (just East (down-river) of the
    Rte-1 Bridge).  Call the Bridge Marina, or the Cove Marina (just West 
    (up-river) of the Rte-1 Bridge) on CH-16 for possible tie-up. 
    Excellent food & atmosphere at a surprisingly reasonable price.
    
    Bon Appetete
    
    	-ETC-
858.22Admiral's Hill Marina, Shipyard Quarters Rest'sFSOA::MCKIESat Aug 31 1991 13:5412
    Do any of you venture into Boston Harbor?
    
    There are two restaurants that you can tie up at for
    no charge.
    
    1.  Shipyard Quarters/Charlestown has an OK restautant called
        Harborwatch.  Excellent view of Boston, OK food.
    
    2.  Admiral's Hill Marina has an excellent restaurant that
        has GREAT Sunday brunch specials.
    
     
858.23RESTAURANTSPARITY::RZASAMon Jan 13 1992 10:242
    YES THIS IS TRUE,BUT YOU SHOULD CALL THE RESTAURANT TO CHECK IT OUT IN
    CASE THIS HAS CHANGED.