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Title:Welcome to Friends!
Moderator:POWDML::VENTURA
Created:Mon Mar 09 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:437
Total number of notes:35174

11.0. "Least favourite things" by VAXCAT::RKE () Mon Mar 09 1992 15:29

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11.1NETCAD::WOODFORDLight dawns over marblehead....Thu Mar 09 1995 20:3610
    
    
    LFT: Finding out that Peter Duke (Remember him???) :*)
    stopped by LKG to see me this morning, and I was out of
    my office all morning, and therefor missed him! :(((
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.2?ECADSR::HAMPTONNew Year - New ButtonflysThu Mar 09 1995 21:293
    So, who's Peter Duke?
    
    
11.3RANGER::REITHThu Mar 09 1995 21:373
Marma's brother 8^)

Must be before my time...
11.4NETCAD::WOODFORDLight dawns over marblehead....Thu Mar 09 1995 21:528
    
    
    You don't remember him??  He noted in here long ago.  
    No longer works for DEC. Really nice guy!
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.5MARMA DUKEKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu Mar 09 1995 21:522
    
    <----------------------- HAHAHAHAHAHHA!
11.6RANGER::REITHThu Mar 09 1995 21:591
Just for you, Chris. I could have shown my age and mentioned his sister Patty 8^)
11.7dem Duke boys!KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu Mar 09 1995 22:0910
    
    
    
    I'ld rather see his sister Daisy!!
    
    
    Gieeugh Gieeugh Gieegh!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.8I *hate* himVNABRW::MUDRA_MFinalmenteMon Mar 13 1995 14:417
    
    LFT: this week a guy from Holland will come and take over my work :-((
    
         
    
    Tina
    *:)
11.9NETCAD::WOODFORDLight dawns over marblehead....Mon Mar 13 1995 16:2715
    
    
    
    LFT: I'M SICK!!!  And I'm not a happy camper when
    I'm sick!  As a matter of fact, I'm downright 
    miserable!  I'm going to be a raving B!T@# today!
    
    
    
    
    You've been warned.....
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.10Keep smilingVNABRW::MUDRA_MFinalmenteMon Mar 13 1995 16:388
    
    re -1
    
    Wish you all the best, Terrie!!
    
    
    
    Tina
11.11Hope you feel better soonCHEFS::WARRENJCelebrate good times..Mon Mar 13 1995 17:435
    LFT: That Terrie's sick....her honesty should be an MFT though!
    
    Hugs for a speedy recovery!
    
    Jackie
11.12NETCAD::WOODFORDLight dawns over marblehead....Mon Mar 13 1995 20:229
    
    
    Thanks everyone for the hugs, etc.  I'll feel better
    eventually, but I've resigned myself to the fact that
    I'm not a good sick person.  I'm a WIMP!
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.13<SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CMon Mar 13 1995 20:308
    
    
    	re: .9
    
    	Oooooh baby....I love it when you talk like that! ;*)
    
    
    chico
11.14ECADSR::HAMPTONNew Year - New ButtonflysMon Mar 13 1995 20:307
    Did I ever mention how I feel about
    sexy raving B!@#$ wimps?
    
    ;->
    
    Hamp
    
11.15:*)NETCAD::WOODFORDIndulgeInCharacterAssassination.Mon Mar 13 1995 20:363
    
    HumminaHumminaHummina
    
11.16norton old pal..how would you like to...KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Mon Mar 13 1995 20:386
    
    
    Oh Norton old pal, start..... :))))
    
    Chris_not_willing_to_be_set_hidden_today
    :)
11.17NETCAD::WOODFORDIndulgeInCharacterAssassination.Mon Mar 13 1995 20:447
    
    
    To the Moon Chris!  To the Moon!   :*)
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.18SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CMon Mar 13 1995 21:255
    
    
    	Hey Ralph, c'mere...;*)
    
    
11.19ECADSR::HAMPTONNew Year - New ButtonflysMon Mar 13 1995 21:364
    lft:  Just missed seeing someone basically inhale an entire box 
          of Girl Scout Cookies.
    
    ;->
11.20NETCAD::WOODFORDAppease Belligerents.Mon Mar 13 1995 22:318
    
    
    RE: .19   Hey!  I did offer you the last cookie though.
    Talk about the *ultimate* sacrafice!  :*)
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.21RANGER::REITHMon Mar 13 1995 22:324
Hamp, tell us it wasn't in her mouth at the time...


8^)
11.22SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CMon Mar 13 1995 22:355
    
    
    and if so, why did you refuse?????
    
    ;*)
11.23NETCAD::WOODFORDAppease Belligerents.Mon Mar 13 1995 22:3514
    
    
    
    ***BIG*** sigh...........
    
    
    
    
    Boys will be boys...
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.24RANGER::REITHMon Mar 13 1995 22:585
Yep, and so will men.

I have three kids, my wife has four 8^)

ChildishMan
11.25SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CMon Mar 13 1995 23:155
    
    
    what fun would life be if we weren't being childish?   
    
    :*)
11.26RANGER::REITHMon Mar 13 1995 23:281
Here Here 8^)
11.27SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CMon Mar 13 1995 23:295
    
    
    	There There
    
    
11.28NUPE::hampNew Year - New ButtonflysMon Mar 13 1995 23:313

;->
11.29distance makes the heart grow fonder or the fart go honda?KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Sat Mar 18 1995 08:206
11.30MEOC02::CASEYMEO5/B6 DTN=739 3414Sat Mar 18 1995 10:148
    Re .29
    
    Sorry, Chris..
    
    No f*rting allowed in here.
    
    Don
    *8-)
11.31distance makes the heart grow fonderKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Sat Mar 18 1995 12:227
    
    
    
    LFT:  A week away from someone special starting Sunday :(
    
    Chris
    :(
11.32p.s. Tell Bliss to answer her mail from me!POOKY::OROURKESLEEP...I read about that onceTue Mar 21 1995 19:518
    
    LFT:  Don't you hate it when Rick Morrell posts a note about a new ride
    at Alton Towers and then keeps you in suspense!
    
    What is it, Rick?????????
    
    /jen
    
11.33MARVIN::MORRELLCos I missed you... Yeah.... I missed youTue Mar 21 1995 20:024
    Sorry Jen.. I forgot the newspaper article... I'll bring it in
    tomorrow.. :->
    
    Rick.
11.34the rideKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Tue Mar 21 1995 20:209
    
    
    
    re -2
    
    I hate it when that happens....!!!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.35who went to the travel agent at lunchtime! :)POOKY::OROURKESLEEP...I read about that onceTue Mar 21 1995 21:268
    
    RE: -1
    
    Especially when you hope to be over there and ride said ride this
    summer! 
    
    /jen
    
11.36ROMEOS::PIGGOTT_SHCompromising is a fundamental of lifeWed Mar 22 1995 04:127
    LFT...
    
    ...owing over $1000 on our Federal Income taxes...
    
    ...having to use our Metpay dividend to pay our taxes...
    
    Shi
11.37SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CWed Mar 22 1995 18:018
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	spending my b-day at work and then at school tonight.
    
    
    chico
11.38HAPPY BIRTHDAYVNABRW::MUDRA_MDon't think I can't stand itWed Mar 22 1995 18:377
    
    re -1
    
    I feel with you Chico!!
    
    
    Tina
11.39RANGER::REITHWed Mar 22 1995 18:414
Can I feel too? 8^)

Cheer up Cheeks. You're spending it with ::FRIENDS and we'll help you get over
adding ANOTHER candle to that cake 8^)
11.40SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CWed Mar 22 1995 19:077
11.41set hidden on his b-dayKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Wed Mar 22 1995 19:109
    
    
    
    re -1
    
    set hidden 
    
    Chris
    :))))))
11.42NETCAD::WOODFORDPracticing Passive AgressionWed Mar 22 1995 19:354
    
    
    Nope...not set hidden. :*)
    
11.43the sacrecrowKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Wed Mar 22 1995 19:3918
    
    
    
    re  set hidden
    
    I know...it was just wishful thinking....it would have been though
    if I had the privs!!1 :)))))))))))
    
    
    I would not be such a nuffin...my head all full of stuffin ..my brain
    all set apart...
    
    With the thoughts i'ld be thinkin i could be another Lincoln if I only
    had the privs!
    

    Chris
    :)
11.44SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CWed Mar 22 1995 21:045
    
    
    	no privs for that lad....he's losin' it! :)
    
    
11.45Lion aroundKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Wed Mar 22 1995 21:2318
    
    
    
    re -1
    
    
    
    wouffff!
    
    
    
    Gruuuuufffffff!
    

    come on....put em up put em up!!
    
    Chris_the_Cowardly_lion
    :)
11.46SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CThu Mar 23 1995 16:2310
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	finding out my son needs to go in for a cat-scan and an adnoid
    x-ray. They'll need to put him under anesthesia (he's 3yrs old). Poor
    kids already been under anesthesia once....my daughter's been twice.
    
    
    chico
11.47MARVIN::MORRELLCos I missed you... Yeah.... I missed youThu Mar 23 1995 16:253
    Sad to hear that Chico.... hope he gets better soon...
    
    Rick.
11.48NETCAD::WOODFORDPracticing Passive AgressionThu Mar 23 1995 16:568
    
    
    Bummer Chico!  :(  Hugs to the little guy!
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.49VNABRW::MUDRA_MDon't think I can't stand itThu Mar 23 1995 17:005
    
    Also a big hug from me!!
    
    
    Tina
11.50ECADSR::HAMPTONI'm Mr. Mom! Hear me Roar!Thu Mar 23 1995 17:264
    me too!
    
    
    Hamp
11.51KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu Mar 23 1995 17:498
    
    
    
    
    Me 3!! :(
    
    Chris
    :(
11.52waiting...and waiting..and waitingKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu Mar 23 1995 18:058
    
    
    
    VLFT:	waiting endlessly for important news that affects your
    		life.
    
    		Chris
    		:(
11.53A big hug for ChrisVNABRW::MUDRA_MDon't think I can't stand itThu Mar 23 1995 18:091
    
11.54thanks friend!KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu Mar 23 1995 18:129
    
    
    
    Thanks Tina!!
    
    I needed that!!
    
    Chris
    ;)
11.55MEOC02::CASEYDon @ MEO5/b6..DTN=739 3414Thu Mar 23 1995 19:593
    I hope everything goes OK, Chico.
    
    Don
11.56SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CThu Mar 23 1995 20:595
    
    
    	thanks peeps.....I'm sure all will be fine.
    
    
11.57I cross my fingers on both handsLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu Mar 23 1995 21:123
Chico, I cross my fingers and send hugs to your poor little boy.

Martina_he_has_my_sympathy
11.58BINKLY::FRANCESCHIwild childThu Mar 23 1995 22:107
    hugs from me too...
    
    LFT: my kitty has been sick for over a week, in and out of the
    hospital...  she's lost over a lb, and was only 7 lbs to begin 
    with :-(
    
    /gina
11.59re 11.58LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu Mar 23 1995 22:234
Hi Gina, give your kitty a pet and a kiss from me.
I hope she'll get better soon.

Martina
11.60nNAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Thu Mar 23 1995 22:382
    
    Hugs and best wishes 
11.61SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CThu Mar 23 1995 22:398
    
    
    	thanks for the hugs-n-stuff peeps. I'm sure he'll be ok, I just
    hate them having to put him under since he's so young. Makes me
    nervous....
    
    
    chico
11.62hugs to ya both!POOKY::OROURKESLEEP...I read about that onceThu Mar 23 1995 22:407
    
    LFT:  Chico's little one having to go under.  
    
    LFT2:  /gina's kitty being sick.
    
    /jen
    
11.63ROMEOS::PIGGOTT_SHCompromising is a fundamental of lifeFri Mar 24 1995 05:1812
    LFT...
    
    ...hearing about Chico's worries...*hugs*
    
    ...worrying about a big decision that will be made in less than two
    weeks...neither choice is wonderful...but sometimes that how life is...
    
    ...finding out last night that I'm flying out Monday morning to Canton,
    Ohio, for a trip to visit our subcontractor...nothing like last minute
    decisions!!
    
    Shi
11.64KAMALA::DREYERSoon to be cruising!Fri Mar 24 1995 05:215
	LFT: Reading about Chico's son, hope he does well Chico.

	Good luck, my prayers are with him.

	Lola
11.65SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CFri Mar 24 1995 14:5210
    
    
    	thanks peeps. 
    
    LFT:
    
    	sicker than ever today. Don't antibiotics works anymore? :*\
    
    
    chico
11.66a european thingKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Fri Mar 24 1995 15:136
    
    
    
    
    
    SCHNAPPS SNARF!!!
11.67SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CFri Mar 24 1995 15:246
    
    
    	ahhhh....a super-schnapps shot would be good about now (100proof
    Peppermint Schnapps).
    
    
11.68KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Fri Mar 24 1995 15:274
    
    
    
    go for it!!
11.69SNARFY super schnapps shot for Chico KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Fri Mar 24 1995 15:274
    
    
    
    SNARF!!!
11.70NETCAD::WOODFORDPracticing Passive AgressionFri Mar 24 1995 17:049
    
    
    LFT: All the snow flying as I left my house this morning! :(
    Ain't it s'posed ta be spring or sumfin'???
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.71RANGER::REITHFri Mar 24 1995 18:304
At least it isn't sticking.

Don't worry, we'll have a good wet snowfall in a week or two. We ALWAYS have one
right as my dafidills bloom so they all break off 8^(
11.72BINKLY::FRANCESCHIwild childMon Mar 27 1995 21:426
    VLFT:  my kitty didn't make it.  i brought her back to the hospital
           friday morning because she still wasn't eating, though her
           upper respiratory infection wasn't clearing up.  they found
           she had severe kidney disease.  i visited her there saturday
           and they said she may make it as she was really a fighter, but
    	   she passed away late saturday.   :-( 
11.73KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Mon Mar 27 1995 21:457
    
    
    
    sorry to hear that /gina
    
    Chris
    :(
11.74NETCAD::WOODFORDPracticing Passive AgressionMon Mar 27 1995 21:5310
    
    
    Oh Gina, I'm so sorry for you. :(
    
    
    **HUGS**
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.75TRACTR::JENNISONThe Angel Opens Her EyesMon Mar 27 1995 22:315
    Gina, My sympathies go out to you... She's having fun in Kitty heaven
    now...
    
    SueJ
    
11.76SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CTue Mar 28 1995 01:354
    
    
    	my condolences /gina....<hugs>
    
11.77ADCA01::RAVISHANKARThereIsThatTalkInTheAirAgainTue Mar 28 1995 07:186
    
    LFT: /gina's kitty's news.....
    
    *HUGS*
    
    Ravi.
11.78VNABRW::MUDRA_MDon't think I can't stand itTue Mar 28 1995 11:566
    
    A big hug from me /gina
    
    
    
    Tina
11.79CHEFS::WARRENJNow something completely differentTue Mar 28 1995 12:166
    
    Sorry to hear about your kitty /gina.
    
    hugs!
    
    Jackie
11.80MEOC02::CASEYDon @ MEO5/B6..DTN=739 3414Tue Mar 28 1995 15:316
    LFT: Waiting.. 
    
    
    Don
    *8-(
    
11.81KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Tue Mar 28 1995 16:054
    
    
    
    LFT that no one mentioned my kitty who died a week ago! :(
11.82MEOC02::CASEYDon @ MEO5/B6..DTN=739 3414Tue Mar 28 1995 17:065
    Re .81
    
    I'm sorry to hear that, Chris.
    
    Don
11.83KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Tue Mar 28 1995 17:396
    
    
    
    thanks for your thoughts Don.
    
    Chris
11.84VNABRW::MUDRA_MDon't think I can't stand itTue Mar 28 1995 21:169
    re .81
    
    Sorry to hear that, too!
    
    
    A big hug for you
    
    
    Tina
11.85ECADSR::HAMPTONI'm Mr. Mom! Hear me Roar!Wed Mar 29 1995 18:2413
    
    
    
    
    lft:  It just hitting home, that this is my last 'Over the Hamp Day'
          here at Digital.
    
    
    wow.
    
    
    Hamp
    
11.86VNABRW::MUDRA_MDon't think I can't stand itWed Mar 29 1995 19:219
    re -1
    
    Sorry to hear that, Hamp!
    
    What happened?
    
    
    
    Tina
11.87KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Wed Mar 29 1995 19:259
    
    
    
    Hamp...you gotta keep in touch and join us when we come down!!
    
    How do we reach you?
    
    Chris
    :)
11.88SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CWed Mar 29 1995 21:008
    
    
    	lft:
    
    	hamps last hump-day! bummer....
    
    
    chico
11.89AYRPLN::VENTURAIn their eyes, the magic resides.Wed Mar 29 1995 21:333
    LFT:  Same as .88  Hamp's last Hamp-hump-day.  Sniffle sniffle)-;
    
    H
11.9090's SNARFKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Wed Mar 29 1995 22:114
    
    
    
    SNARF!!
11.91Best of luck to youKAMALA::DREYERSoon to be cruising!Thu Mar 30 1995 03:356
	Aw gee Hamp, not *another* :Friend leaving.  Sorry to see you go.

	Hugs,

	Lola

11.92NUPE::hampButtonfly, and think of me.Thu Mar 30 1995 18:529

Thanks, Lola!


I'll keep in touch.  ;->


Hampy
11.93RANGER::REITHThu Mar 30 1995 20:187
Alas, I've given 2 weeks notice as well and I'm not persuing leads in DEC this
time. I've been contracting in DEC for 7 years and feel it's time to get
something in someplace smaller. Digital isn't the DEC it used to be (the
oldtimers will understand that one). My last day will be 4/14 but I'll still be
available via racores@world.std.com

CM
11.94NETCAD::WOODFORDTimeToFillTheDonuts!Thu Mar 30 1995 21:288
    
    
    :(  So many people leaving....:(
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.95who will fill the donuts now?KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu Mar 30 1995 21:594
    
    
    
    Not the CoreMAN too!!!??? :(((
11.96SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CThu Mar 30 1995 22:488
    
    
    	Geez Jim, who am I gonna share cool www homepages with? ;*)
    
    	we'll get together before you head to the great beyond....
    
    
    chico
11.97NAC::LUSSIERThu Mar 30 1995 22:567
    
    
    LFT : Leaving LKG at the end of the week.  Its been great having all
          these friends around.
    
    Rich
    
11.98RANGER::REITHThu Mar 30 1995 23:018
No problem Chico. I now have a SLIP connection at home and Netscape up and
running so I'll still be surfin'. I'm also going to have my mailer at home all
fired up so I'll be able to get several things done at once. All through the
racores@world.std.com account. As long as it's out on the internet and note
inside the DEC firewall, I'll be there. Besides, I'll probably be back in DEC
sometime, just probably not next time.

CrullerMan 8^)
11.99SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CFri Mar 31 1995 00:037
    
    
    	Sounds good CM! So tell me, what's involved in setting up a SLIP
    connection from home? I'm thinking about doing that myself...
    
    
    chico
11.100RANGER::REITHFri Mar 31 1995 00:101
Well, I'll move my answer to a MFT 8^)
11.101CHEFS::WARRENJNow something completely differentFri Mar 31 1995 01:326
    
    LFT: All these leavers! :-(
    
    but lots of good luck wishes! 
    
    Jackie
11.102Good long termers are being head-hunted big-time.MEOC02::CASEYDon@MEO-MEO78B::CASEY-DTN7393414Fri Mar 31 1995 03:156
    Re .101
    
    Who's it gonna be next?
    
    Don
    *8-(
11.103SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CFri Mar 31 1995 03:225
    
    
    	not me, I'm ducking when the axe swings!
    
    
11.104There is life after Digital!!KAMALA::DREYERSoon to be cruising!Fri Mar 31 1995 03:3411
	It used to upset me thinking about it, but I think I'd be fine
if it happened now.  There are plenty of opportunities out there and many
people who have left have found much better jobs without the constant worry
about whether how long their job will last...

	Seeing alot of contract people taking summers and/or winters off
also had me thinking that maybe I'm doing this all wrong!!

	Lola    
    

11.105MEOC02::CASEYDon@MEO-MEO78B::CASEY-DTN7393414Fri Mar 31 1995 14:5717
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>    	not me, I'm ducking when the axe swings!
                    ^^^^
                    ^^^^ 
    
    Very clever clue, Chico!
    
    Don
    *8-)    
    
11.106SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CFri Mar 31 1995 16:174
    
    ;*)
    
    
11.107DASHER::RALSTONAin't Life Fun!Fri Mar 31 1995 19:394
    LFT: Having to work on my car tomorrow, after a heater hose blew last
         night. At least the weather is suppose to be nice.
    
    ...Tom 
11.108SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CFri Mar 31 1995 21:584
    
    	at least you're not resleaving the cyclinders or something...:)
    
    
11.109DASHER::RALSTONAin't Life Fun!Sat Apr 01 1995 00:046
    True, but if things go true to course, I'll probably break something
    major and spend the entire day on the original 1 hour job. I remember
    not so fondly my all day oil change. Ever have one of those? One of the
    few things that takes the spring out of my step.
    
    ...Tom
11.110DECLNE::SHEPARDBubba Roll ModelSat Apr 01 1995 00:364
Having to discipline my little boy(4) when he has done something that is bad,
but funny as he!!.

:^{
11.111ADCA01::RAVISHANKARThereIsThatTalkInTheAirAgainMon Apr 03 1995 08:475
    
    
    LFT: :FRIENDS (Hamp, NS, Sophia, Joyce, Don..) leaving.. <sniff>....
    
    Ravi.
11.112MEOC02::CASEYDon@MEO-MEO78B::CASEY-DTN7393414Mon Apr 03 1995 10:064
    LFT: Leaving the best friends I know.. the `net' ones.
    
    Don
    *8-((
11.113NETCAD::WOODFORDTimeToFillTheDonuts!Mon Apr 03 1995 17:3310
    
    
    LFT: So many friends leaving, in and out of this conference. :(
    This is a sad month indeed. :(
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.114BABAGI::LUSSIERMon Apr 03 1995 22:149
    
    
    LFT: The selfish feelings I have over all the folks who are leaving,
         which remind me of all the friends who have left in the past.
    
         ::FRIENDS without Don will be like a 'Roo without a pouch
    
    Rich
    
11.115SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CTue Apr 04 1995 05:089
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	wondering how long it will be before Don can make another trip
    state-side....
    
    
    chico
11.116What an icky Monday...ROMEOS::PIGGOTT_SHCompromising is a fundamental of lifeTue Apr 04 1995 06:0415
    LFT...
    
    ...getting in a HUGE, I mean HUGE, UGLY, HORRID fight with my husband
    this morning...and even after our both apologizing things are still
    tense...
    
    ...it's official...we owe the government $1847.11...ugh!
    
    ...being so behind with my work as a result of not being able to
    concentrate today...
    
    ...my car that is just celebrating it's first anniversary has a leak in
    the oil pan gasket...at least it is covered under the warranty!
    
    Shi
11.117KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Tue Apr 04 1995 06:1716
    
    
    Shi
    
    Hope things get better with the hubby!
    
    I did my taxes too..and owed $ 2000.00!!! ouch!! :((
    
    well lucky for me i had opened a sideline business the year before that
    i closed last year..so iget to write it off and hopefully not owe
    anything!! I'll find out tomorrow from my accountant!
    wish me luck!!
    
    Chris_hoping_for_good_news_from_the_accountant!
    :)
    
11.118Tell them to leave me alone!!KAMALA::DREYERSoon to be cruising!Tue Apr 04 1995 06:253
LFT: This foul mood I'm in today...my hormones must be raging...

Lola
11.119Hugs for Lola...and everyone else that needs it!KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Tue Apr 04 1995 06:3412
    
    
    
    
    sorry to hear that Lola!
    
    >HUG<
    
    Hope that does some good!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.120Slowly working out of itKAMALA::DREYERSoon to be cruising!Tue Apr 04 1995 06:503
	Thanks Chris...it helps!

	
11.121MEOC02::CASEYDon@MEO-MEO78B::CASEY-DTN7393414Tue Apr 04 1995 07:1521
Re .115
    
Chico,    
    
    	>LFT:
    
    	>wondering how long it will be before Don can make another trip
        >state-side....
    
         I was due there now originally but this got postponed until July
    but I've resigned in the meantime.. however, the nature of my future
    role may see me there from time-to-time ..and I may have more money
    such that I can make it there under my own steam.. all being well.
    
    I cannot answer your question, Chico, save to say `never soon
    enough'..the USA is a place I LOVE to visit.. so too the UK, BTW.
    
    Don
        
    
    chico
11.122*_OUCH_*ADCA01::RAVISHANKARThereIsThatTalkInTheAirAgainTue Apr 04 1995 11:336
    
    LFT: A slight mishap on the way to work this morning resulting in my
    	losing the big-toe nail on the left foot.. ( actually it got run
    	over by the front wheel of a lorry..) my fault....
    
    Ravi.
11.123MARVIN::MORRELLThis is the rhythm of the night....Tue Apr 04 1995 12:388
    LFT :
    
    	Seeing Don is leaving.....
    
    	Good luck in the future Don.... hope you & your family does
    well..... keep in touch...
    
    	Rick.
11.124RANGER::REITHTue Apr 04 1995 15:594
    Ravi! My toes curled just reading that! Hope it feels better soon. I
    know what it can be like trying to stay comfortable without a nail. 8^(
    
    CM
11.125KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Tue Apr 04 1995 16:0511
    
    
    
    Ravi...my foot was run over when i was young.
    first a friend drive off as a joke as i was exiting his car...when i
    yelled...he backe up to see what was the matter!!! :(((((
    
    I cursed a book full!
    Just call me flat-foot!
    Chris
    :)
11.126MEOC02::CASEYDon@MEO-MEO78B::CASEY-DTN7393414Tue Apr 04 1995 17:459
    Re .123
    
    Rick,
    
    Thanks mate! We'll keep in touch!
    
    
    Don
    *8-)
11.127RANGER::REITHTue Apr 04 1995 18:183
LFT: papercuts

I haven't had one in a long time and now I've had three in about a week 8^(
11.128NETCAD::WOODFORDTimeToFillTheDonuts!Tue Apr 04 1995 18:4712
    
    
    LFT: Everyone's LFT's in here this week. (And it's only tuesday!) :(
    
    
    Hope everone is happier/feeling better soon!
    
    
    **HUGS** to anyone who needs them!
    
    Terrie
    
11.129re 128LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaTue Apr 04 1995 21:018
Hi Terrie,

   thanks for the hugs. ;)
   But,,, I can't tell why I need them.
   I can't, even though I'd like to, I can't.
   But as always I'm fine, officially. ;)

Martina
11.130NETCAD::WOODFORDTimeToFillTheDonuts!Tue Apr 04 1995 21:369
    
    
    
    Oh, come on Tina!  You can talk to Dr. Terrie!  :*)
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.131AYRPLN::VENTURAIn their eyes, the magic resides.Tue Apr 04 1995 22:023
    LFT:  The words.. "At Risk". )-:
    
    H
11.132KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Wed Apr 05 1995 01:429
    
    
    H..what's with the at risk..and the GOD thing?
    
    Chris_curious!
    
    
    
    
11.133RANGER::REITHWed Apr 05 1995 02:0612
Chris,

"at risk" is what they call you some number of weeks before a layoff if you're
on the list of people they're considering cutting. The list is usually slightly
bigger than the actual cut is expected to be but they're letting you know that
they're reviewing you.

The "call to GOD" I believe was a reference to Don's initial announcement where
he used a similar flowery reference to leaving the company. It probably refers
to working somewhere else as being heaven...

CynicalMan
11.134NETCAD::WOODFORDTimeToFillTheDonuts!Wed Apr 05 1995 02:384
    
    
    Yup, working somewhere else would be heaven on earth....
    
11.135BINKLY::FRANCESCHIwild childWed Apr 05 1995 19:553
    LFT: so many LFTs...  and so many ::friends leaving...
    
    /gina
11.136MEOC02::CASEYDon@MEO-MEO78B::CASEY-DTN7393414Thu Apr 06 1995 16:2512
    The expression `called to God' is actually a VERY old one. Back in the
    1800s, it was not unusual for somebody to use this expression to refer
    to someone who'd died prior.. eg., `Rita was called to God's side in
    the year 1885'... kinda quaint innit!!
    
    
    Who did I hear just say `Yeah, well Don could remember that.'  ..??
    
    Don
    *8-)
    
    
11.137AYRPLN::VENTURAIn their eyes, the magic resides.Sat Apr 08 1995 00:213
    LFT:  Being "second choice". )-:
    
    H
11.138Is the topic Tabu?RANGER::REITHSat Apr 08 1995 00:311
Not in here 8^)
11.139NAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Sat Apr 08 1995 00:425
    
    I agree with CM.....Don't let them get to ya Holly!  It's thier loss.
    
    A
    
11.140AYRPLN::VENTURAIn their eyes, the magic resides.Sat Apr 08 1995 01:134
    Thanks guys.. I need a bit of a pick-me-up right now.  Feeling rather
    blue at the moment.
    
    H
11.141RANGER::REITHSat Apr 08 1995 01:167
Pick you up? ok... come here often?

Don't feel blue, Terrie's the resident Smurfette!

8^)

CheerupMan
11.142KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Sat Apr 08 1995 05:1510
    
    
    
    
    Here's a hug for ya Holly!
    
    >HUG!<
    
    Chris
    :)
11.143 :-(PAKORA::KANDERSONGoing Nuts!Sat Apr 08 1995 19:253
    working weekends..!!
    
    Katrina
11.144SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CSun Apr 09 1995 00:466
    
    
    	<HUGS> for katrina! Chin up darlin'....
    
    
    chico
11.145A BIIIIIIIG hug for Holly ;)LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaMon Apr 10 1995 02:445
Who ever considers you 2nd choice doesn't know you and doesn't
deserve you !!!!!!!!!

Martina_would_be_glad_to_be_at_least_"2nd choice"
;)
11.146too busy to be ill!CHEFS::WARRENJsomething lost,something foundMon Apr 10 1995 11:583
    LFT: The bug currently doing the rounds has hit me...I feel grim! :-(
    
    Jackie
11.147ADCA01::RAVISHANKARToeUnderTruck=BIGNailCutMon Apr 10 1995 13:296
    
    LFT: bugs which hit Jackie !
    
    	*HUGS* sweetie.
    
    Ravi.
11.148KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Mon Apr 10 1995 16:069
    
    
    
    re -2
    
    double hugs ( Snap! x2 and 3)
    
    Chris
    :)
11.149CHEFS::WARRENJsomething lost,something foundMon Apr 10 1995 17:193
    thanks guys! :-)
    
    Jackie
11.150MEOC02::CASEYDon@MEO-MEO78B::CASEY-DTN7393414Mon Apr 10 1995 17:538
    Sorry to hear that you're unwell, Jackie.
    
    
    LFT: Saying goodbye to special friends as I cycle down to Thursday
    ...my last day.
    
    Don
    *8-(
11.151LFTsLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaMon Apr 10 1995 21:197
LFTs: 
   - seeing so many good friends leave
   - Jackie is not feeling well, a special hug from me
     and: Gute Besserung!

Martina
;((((
11.152AYRPLN::VENTURAIn their eyes, the magic resides.Tue Apr 11 1995 18:139
    LFT:  Coming within a few feet of hitting a pedestrian last night on my
    way home from my mother's house.
    
    An african american man with dark jeans and a red and black shirt.  
    Tough to see, especially at night!! 
    And what's worse is that he was standing in the middle of the road!
    
    Holly
    
11.154We have Worm sound!KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu Apr 13 1995 17:3811
    
    
    
    re -1
    
    
    The sleeper has awoken!! :)))))
    
    Chris
    :)
    
11.155Worms???????LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu Apr 13 1995 19:136
Yuck!

But sounds interesting: which kind or worms, how many, where?

;)
Martina
11.156RANGER::REITHThu Apr 13 1995 19:143
THUMP!.... THUMP!

Now if I could just fit into my stillsuit... 8^)
11.157RANGER::REITHFri Apr 14 1995 01:313
LFT: I have to work Monday...

 See MFT
11.158LFT: Tina is sick!LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaMon Apr 17 1995 23:4110
LFT today:  Tina is sick! The poor thing got caught by a US stomach bug.
            :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

She called me up this morning to cancel our trip to Cambridge. She doesn't
feel right and lies in bed. Let's all cross our fingers that she will get
better soon and can enjoy her last week here in the US.
I'll check up on her tomorrow and let everybody know.

Martina
;(
11.159Get well soonTOOK::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Tue Apr 18 1995 07:462
  Bummer! I hope she gets well soon; there is not much time left for her to 
attend another ::FRIENDS event.
11.160Hugs for her speedy recoveryCHEFS::WARRENJsomething lost,something foundTue Apr 18 1995 12:404
    LFT: Hearing Tina is poorly whilst on vacation.  :-(
    
    
    Jackie
11.161AYRPLN::VENTURAIn their eyes, the magic resides.Tue Apr 18 1995 20:064
    LFT:  Missing out on all of the activities while Tina was here due to a
    very sever cold (borderline bronchitis). )-:
    
    H
11.162LFT...not knowing!!KAMALA::DREYERSoon to be cruising!Wed Apr 19 1995 00:478
	LFT:  hearing Tina and Holly are both under the weather...get well
	      quick.

	VLFT:  Not knowing where our business (EPM) will be moving, there are
	       rumours going around that it may be Salem, NH (Boo) or
	       Littleton (my fingers are crossed).  Wish they'd just decide!

	Lola
11.163geez!AKOMI1::OROURKESLEEP...I read about that onceWed Apr 19 1995 01:027
    
    lft: being home sick and having to go to the doctor tomorrow. :(
    
    lft: Hearing Tina and Holly have been sick too.
    
    /jen
    
11.164LFT: so many friends sick today....LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaWed Apr 19 1995 01:077
lft:  Holly, Jen, Wen and Tina are sick today!!!!!
      :(((((

Hello Lola, I cross my fingers for you to be transfered not
anywhere else but..... here to Littleton. ;)

Martina
11.165SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CWed Apr 19 1995 01:228
    
    
    	lft:
    
    	all these sick people!
    
    
    chico
11.166Merci beaucoup!KAMALA::DREYERSoon to be cruising!Wed Apr 19 1995 01:279
>Hello Lola, I cross my fingers for you to be transfered not
>anywhere else but..... here to Littleton. ;)


	Thanks Martina!!!  Everyone, please pray for me that this will happen!

	Hugs,
	Lola
11.167KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Wed Apr 19 1995 05:316
    
    
    Hi Lola...my wishes are with you!!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.168KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Wed Apr 19 1995 05:324
    
    
    
    set up for ----->
11.169snarfy set upKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Wed Apr 19 1995 05:325
    
    
    
    
    SNARF!!!!
11.170I don't know why, but I do it...ANNECY::BALAS_BWild child in mind...Wed Apr 19 1995 17:448
	Hi Lola, I don't know you, you don't know me, but I cross my noters
fingers too (It's not practical to write, anyway...).
	I say Hi to everyone!
	Excuse me, but this morning (now it's about 15h00) I couldn't access to
::FRIENDS because of an unknown reason (I was probably tired). I missed you all.
Now I'm there and happy to talk English.

				C.U friends!		BenJ.
11.171Bonjour BenJ! (mods: Good Day BenJ ;) )LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaWed Apr 19 1995 19:0915
Oui, je sais comme c'est...etre fatigue....  
(Mean: I know how it is ...to be tired)

J'etait ici, travailler le dernier soir a dix heur....
(I was here, working the last evening until 10...)

Et maintenant, je un petit peu fatigue,,, mais seulement un tres petit
petit peu. ;)
(And now, I am a little bit tired,,, but only a very little bit. ;) )

Nice talking to you again.
(C'est jolie (??? is that right???) de parler avec toi (again) )

;) 
Martina
11.172SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CWed Apr 19 1995 21:2912
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	huge bomb exploded at the federal building in Oklahoma City. Blast
    was felt 30 miles away. At least 6 children in the day care in the
    building have been killed. 2 more bombs were found and are being
    diffused.
    
    	a dark day for sure...
    
    chico
11.173SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CWed Apr 19 1995 21:3719
From:	BSS::MARAFINE "Dare to Dream...  19-Apr-1995 1004 -0600" 19-APR-1995 10:29:31.19
To:	@CSCDIST:CXO3.DIS
CC:	@SOCIAL,MARAFINE
Subj:	EMERGENCY NUMBERS FOR OKLAHOMA DISASTER

CNN just announced emergency numbers for anyone needing information on
family or friends affected by this morning's bombing at the Federal Bldg.
in Oklahoma City.  A hotline has been established with the following 6
contact numbers.  Please circulate this message to anyone who needs it:


		EMERGENCY HOTLINE(S) IN OKLAHOMA CITY:
		-------------------------------------
		All are Area Code (405):   820-8601
					   820-8602
					   820-8603
					   820-8604
					   820-8605
					   820-8606
11.174NETCAD::WOODFORDI&lt;--TheInfoWentDataWay--&gt;IWed Apr 19 1995 21:3710
    
    
    And the Federal Bldg. in Boston has received a bomb threat 
    and has been evacuated. :(
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.175SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CWed Apr 19 1995 21:397
    
    
    	some of the press is reporting that it is a middle-eastern group
    who is claiming responsibility. Some tripe about not being happy with
    the sanctions against Saddam...
    
    
11.176That is so sadLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaWed Apr 19 1995 21:457
Little children must die because terrorists wanted to make their
point???? No, I can't agree to that type of philosophy.
Children are our hope, our future. We should focus on saving 
their lives in order to make the world worth living in.
There is no beauty in this world without the laughter of children.

Martina
11.177MARVIN::MORRELLNooooooo I shall believe.....Wed Apr 19 1995 22:303
    Anybody know who planted the bomb???
    
    Rick.
11.178NETCAD::WOODFORDI&lt;--TheInfoWentDataWay--&gt;IWed Apr 19 1995 22:3815
    The Massad (sp?) is claiming responsability, for what they feel to be
    unfair sanctions against Saddam Hussein(sp?).
    
    
    The death toll is up to 8 children from the day care, and there are
    many people trapped in the building still.  There is a fear that if an
    evacuation attempt is made, one of the other bombs will detonate.
    
    
    Evacuated bldgs. in Boston, MA include the Kennedy Federal Bldg.,
    City Hall, and several other surrounding buildings.  They have also
    evacuated several other fed. buildings in MA, including Fitchburg.
    
    Terrie
    
11.179MARVIN::MORRELLNooooooo I shall believe.....Wed Apr 19 1995 22:525
    LFT:
    
    	Hearing about terroist attacks... 
    
    	Rick.
11.180SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CWed Apr 19 1995 22:5734
Federal building in Boston evacuated after bomb
threat 


(c) Copyright the News & Observer Publishing Co.

Reuters

BOSTON - Hundreds of people were evacuated on Wednesday
from a government building in Boston after a bomb threat in the
wake of the blast that devastated a government building in
Oklahoma, police said.

The threat was phoned in by an anonymous caller to the John F.
Kennedy building in the city centre, Boston police spokeswoman
Jennifer Carcioni told Reuters.

Police and firemen combed the building, searching for a bomb,
but initially turned up nothing.

Ambulances and other emergency vehicles raced to the scene as
government workers and ordinary citizens streamed from the
building, which houses offices of the Internal Revenue Service
and the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

"There was mention of a bomb. They haven't found anything
yet," said Lieutenant Robert O'Toole, a former commander of
the Boston police bomb squad.

He said there had also been reports of bomb threats at the John
Hancock insurance building in Boston, though that building was
not evacuated.


11.181oops,,,, the INS and all my paperwork is at the JFK.....LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaWed Apr 19 1995 23:144
In case the thing blows up,,,, I would appreciate it to wait
until I got my Green Card....

Martina
11.182BINKLY::FRANCESCHIwild childThu Apr 20 1995 00:303
    LFT:  the bombing in Oklahoma.
    
    /gina
11.183For BenJ!KAMALA::DREYERSoon to be cruising!Thu Apr 20 1995 01:1912
>	Hi Lola, I don't know you, you don't know me, but I cross my noters
>fingers too (It's not practical to write, anyway...).

	Hi BenJ!  I tried to write to you with a "send/author", but it
didn't recognize your username at your node.  Seems like I'm having nothing but
trouble with mail lately!

	Anyway, thanks for crossing your noters fingers for me!

	Hugs,
	Lola
11.184Oh la la Lola!ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Thu Apr 20 1995 18:182
	De rien, c'est gratuit (The way we say "you welcome" in French)
					Needing to stay free,	BenJ.
11.185SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CFri Apr 21 1995 01:257
    
    	LFT:
    
    	close minded people.
    
    
    chico
11.186re .185LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri Apr 21 1995 01:3611
Hello Cheeks,

   what do you mean by "close minded people"? Do you have problems with 
   somebody who instead of trying to understand, just closes his mind and
   judges from what he thinks he understands?
   I also don't like people like that. See, prejudice is only a way of
   being too lazy to trying to understand.

Hugs,
Martina
;)
11.187SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CFri Apr 21 1995 16:1817
    
    
    Yes Martina, those are exactly the kind of people that are bugging me
    these days. Instead of trying to find out the facts about something,
    they spew forth emotional diatribe that has no foundation in reality.
    Trying to reason with a person like that is an exercise in futility
    that I am unfortunately required to take on.
    
    	I am a very angry, frustrated, sad person right now. But, I'll keep
    on keeping on until I have nothing left to give. 
    
    
    	sorry for the down note peeps....just venting.
    
    
    chico
         
11.188NAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Fri Apr 21 1995 17:386
    
    Hang in their Cheeks and vent all you want, it's good for the heart.
    
    HUGS
    A
    
11.189SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CFri Apr 21 1995 18:194
    
    	thanks hun...
    
    
11.190decade snarf!KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Fri Apr 21 1995 18:273
    
    
    SNARF!!
11.191NAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Fri Apr 21 1995 19:377
    
    Anytime Cheeks, that's what friends are for.
    
    HUGS
    
    A
    
11.192Poor Chico...LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri Apr 21 1995 19:5113
Hey Chico, we are your friends. That means whenever you feel down, we are
here to help you. Help you find your way through the nasty weather on the
ocean of life, help you through storm and rain until you reach calmer 
waters. Tell us all your sorrows and lighten up your soul. 
Even when we cannot offer any physical help, we might be able to assist
you in clearing up your mind for additional confrontations with the 
person you're referring to.
You will keep on giving all you have until there isn't any more.
We will keep on giving all the friendship we have.
Friendship is forever and withstands every obstacle.

Hugs,
Martina
11.193not fair...EMIRFI::CAHILLFri Apr 21 1995 19:587
    
    VLFT:  Someone in Classified is selling something.  I sent them
    mail asking if it was still available.  They said they meant to
    post a higher price and would I still be interested but the lower
    price is still posted.  
    
    Gheesh.....
11.194NETCAD::WOODFORDI&lt;--TheInfoWentDataWay--&gt;IFri Apr 21 1995 21:3710
    
    
    Hugs to you Chico. (See mail.)
    
    RE: .193  That is a really sleezy thing to do.  Kind of 
    like false advertising, isn't it?
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.195gonna miss her here!POOKY::OROURKESLEEP...I read about that onceSat Apr 22 1995 00:385
    
    LFT:  I think it's /gina's last day at DEC! :(
    
    /jen
    
11.196re .195LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaSat Apr 22 1995 00:408
Oh, it is so sad,,, Gina is leaving and she did not even make
it to our party yesterday. If today really is her last day,
then there is no possibility anymore to say good-bye.

Do you know whether she will be on the Internet?

Martina
:(
11.197/gina POOKY::OROURKESLEEP...I read about that onceSat Apr 22 1995 00:518
    
    well according to 6.689 today is her last day!:(
    
    She did say she thinks she'll be on the internet and also that she
    plans on going to the Jake's party.  :)
    
    /jen
    
11.198NETCAD::WOODFORDI&lt;--TheInfoWentDataWay--&gt;ISat Apr 22 1995 01:098
    
    
    BUMMER!!!  :(
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.199KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Sat Apr 22 1995 01:285
    
    I didn't know it was her last day either..but she will be at the
    events in May!!
    Chris
    :)
11.200KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Sat Apr 22 1995 01:2911
    
    
    
    Snarf!!
    
    
    bye /gina! best of luck with everything..see you in May!
    
    Hugs
    Chris
    :)
11.201SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CSat Apr 22 1995 15:568
    
    
    	/gina didn't make it well known she wuz leavin' us....she'll miss
    up terribly tho'! :*) Hopefully we'll all get a chance to see her at
    Jakes and give her a hard time about leaving DEC....;*)
    
    
    chico
11.202TOOK::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Mon Apr 24 1995 01:054
  LFT: Hearing that yet another person from my work group of 13 or so people
is voluntarily leaving the company. This group is losing people at the rate of
one every three months. Not even ::FRIENDS is losing people at this (percentage)
rate.
11.203LFTs if the day...ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Mon Apr 24 1995 12:3619
	LFT1: Monday mornin'...
	LFT2: Bye-bye /gina... Hope U'll be back soon.
	LFT3: French presidential elections this WE.
		results: - Jospin	23% (socialist)
			 - Chirac 	20% (republican)
			 - Balladur	19% (republican)
			 - Le pen	15% (facsist)
			 - Hue		 8% (communist)...
		After 14 years of socialist Frenchies still vote for them! We're
			definitively unforgivable.
		Someone said "if U don't vote U risk to get a grave President!".
		He was right cause the facsism in France has never been so high 
		in score!
		We have to wait for May 8th, to know the name of our future 	
		president... As we say in France "Entre 2 maux, il faut choisir 
		le moindre." That means we've to choose the less bad between
		Chirac and Jospin...

					Just a bit angry,	BenJ.  :((
11.204AYRPLN::VENTURAIn their eyes, the magic resides.Mon Apr 24 1995 21:248
    LFT:  The announcement that our manager is leaving the company. )-:
    
    LFT2:  The job that I really wanted, they can't get the requisition
    posted.
    
    LFT3:  No job offers yet.. I have one week!
    
    H
11.205Courrage, H...ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Mon Apr 24 1995 21:562
	OK, it's easy to say it, but I tell U: Tomorrow is another day...
					Wait and see,		BenJ.
11.206Please stay, HollyLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaMon Apr 24 1995 22:046
    re .204:  Holly, did you try the job book, or the JOBS conference?
    
    I would *HATE* to loose you, too.
    
    Hugs,
    Martina
11.207but I'm leaving soon!POOKY::OROURKEit must be THE CRUSH OF LOVEFri Apr 28 1995 04:525
    
    LFT:  Working late! :(
    
    /jen
    
11.208VNABRW::MUDRA_MI love vacationFri Apr 28 1995 11:427
    re -1
    
    poor /jen!
    
    
    
    Tina
11.209SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CFri Apr 28 1995 16:168
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	too much....
    
    
    chico
11.210NETCAD::WOODFORDBoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIngFri Apr 28 1995 18:2713
    
    
    LFT: Being sick
         Kids being sick
         too much stress
         trying to do too much at once
         lack of sleep
    
    etc., etc., etc.
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.211Broken purple wingsLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri Apr 28 1995 18:3411
    LFT:   the INS
    
           tomorrow is the big meeting in KBO/Germany, all my friends will
           be there, even people from the US have already left to go there.
           But guess who won't be there....
    
           I'll just hide somewhere on the weekend and hope it'll be
           over soon.
    
    :(
    Martina
11.212LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri Apr 28 1995 19:337
    My ex-husband just called. He'll be going to the meeting, too.
    He'll start driving down there..... right now.
    I asked him to say hello for me.
    
    I think I need a sponge today.
    
    :(
11.213re .211, .212ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Fri Apr 28 1995 20:134
	LFT: 	(the only one of the day) Seing Twix so sad. My wings are not 	
		broken, and I'm with U...

						Friendly,	BenJ.   ;)
11.214hugsCHEFS::WARRENJanother day in paradiseMon May 01 1995 14:266
    LFT:  Terrie & Martina's troubles.
    
    Hope all gets better soon.
    
    
    Jackie
11.215Hugs backLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaMon May 01 1995 18:059
    Hello Jackie!
    
       thanks so much. I spent the whole weekend watching the StarTrek
       special on the SciFi Channel..... and tried not to think about
       the meeting in Kaufbeuren. I'll see most of them in fall, in  case
       my green card will arrive until then.
    
    ;)
    Martina
11.216I'm depressed! :(POOKY::OROURKEit must be THE CRUSH OF LOVEMon May 01 1995 23:395
    
    LFT: My favorite boss ever at Digital just resigned. :(
    
    /jen
    
11.217NETCAD::WOODFORDBoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIngMon May 01 1995 23:4110
    
    
    Bummer /jen! :(
    
    
    ***HUGS***
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.218NETCAD::WOODFORDBoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIngTue May 02 1995 02:259
    
    
    LFT: A good friend of mine's ten year old son tried to 
    commit suicide this morning. :(((
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.219KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Tue May 02 1995 02:4310
    
    
    
    re -1
    
    oh my
    
    lots of positive energy for that boy and his family!
    
    Chris
11.220KAMALA::DREYERSoon to be cruising!Tue May 02 1995 03:334
	LFT: Hearing about your friend's son, Terrie. I do hope they get
	     help for him.  How awful.  Big hugs, PP&E to that family.

	Lola
11.221CHEFS::WARRENJanother day in paradiseTue May 02 1995 13:087
    .218
    
    Terrie, Thats sad news.  Hope all works out for the family.  Special
    thoughts for them
    
    
    Jackie
11.222VNABRW::MUDRA_MI love vacationTue May 02 1995 16:368
    LFT: all the LFTs I read today!
    
    :-(((
    
    
    
    Tina_very_depressed_today
    
11.223LFT: Tina_missing_a_222_snarf_in_this_wondefull_May_dayANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Tue May 02 1995 17:455
	LFT: Reading that everyone read and reply ONLY to LFT...
	LFT: Tired, exhausted by the WE I've had (Is this really a LFT?)

					Fighting against LFT,	BenJ.	;)
				
11.224LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaTue May 02 1995 23:595
    LFT:  [....]
    
    I can't say what, but putting it in here helps.
    
    Martina
11.225KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Wed May 03 1995 00:008
    
    
    
    sorry you have an LFT Martina.
    
    Hugs
    Chris
    :)
11.226I feel sad for friends of mineLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaWed May 03 1995 00:468
    I think, I can put it in here. The thing is: friends of mine outside
    of Digital have trouble with their work. We all think that the
    product's failures are not their fault. But here in the US people get
    layed off pretty fast. 
    
    Thanks for the hugs Chris.
    
    Martina
11.227I *LOVE* antibiotics at a time like this!AKOMI1::OROURKEit must be THE CRUSH OF LOVEWed May 03 1995 01:156
    
    LFT:  Having been diagnosed with a wicked bad sinus/ear infection
    but at least now I can get it cured!
    
    /jen
    
11.228KAMALA::DREYERSoon to be cruising!Wed May 03 1995 01:354
	/jen, I hope it clears up quickly.    

	Hugs,
	Lola
11.229CAPNET::VENTURAIn their eyes, the magic resides.Wed May 03 1995 01:374
    LFT:  Being second best twice today.  It's getting very depressing!
    
    Holly
    
11.230NETCAD::WOODFORDBoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIngWed May 03 1995 01:4411
    
    
    Hugs for /jen and Holly, and anyone else that needs them today! 
    
    
    Hang in there folks...out of every bad thing that happens there is
    something good that comes out of it.
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.231INTERNET VIRUS ALERT!!!!!!!NETCAD::WOODFORDBoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIngWed May 03 1995 22:47102
This is serious folks....READ CAREFULLY AND FORWARD WIDELY!!!
    

   
     ** High Priority **
   
     PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY!
   
     The following notice came across my internet connect this morning and 
     will be released by DOE-HQ today, although it may be too late in some 
     cases.
   
     "There is a new computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. 
     If you receive an email message with the subject line "Good Times,"
     DO NOT read the message. DELETE it immediately.  Please read the 
     messages
     below.
   
     Some miscreant is sending email under the title "good times" 
     nation-wide.  If you get anything like this, DON'T DOWNLOAD THE FILE! 
     It has a virus that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything on 
     it.  Please be careful and forward this mail to anyone you care about.
   
     Thought you might like to know...
   
     The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning
     a matter of major importance to any regular user of the Internet. 
     Apparently, a new computer virus has been engineered by a user of 
     America Online that is unparalled in its destructive capability. 
     Other, more well-known viruses such as Stoned, Airwolf, and 
     Michaelangelo pale in comparison to the prospects of this newest 
     creation by a warped mentality.
   
     What makes this virus so terrifying, said the FCC, is the fact that no 
     program needs to be exchanged for a new computer to be infected.  It 
     can be spread through the existing e-mail systems of the InterNet. 
     Once a computer is infected, one of several things can happen.  If the 
     computer contains a hard drive, that will most likely be destroyed.
     If the program is not stopped, the computer's processor will be placed 
     in an nth-complexity infinite binary loop, which can severely damage 
     the processor if left running that way too long.  Unfortunately, most 
     novice computer users will not realize what is happening until it is 
     far too late.
   
     Luckily, there is one sure means of detecting what is now known as the 
     "Good Times" virus.  It always travels to new computers the same way 
     in a test e-mail message with the subject line reading simply "Good 
     Times."
   
     Avoiding infection is easy once the file has been received - not 
     reading it. The act of loading the file into the mail server's ASCII 
     buffer causes the "Good Times" mainline program to
     initialize and execute.  The program is highly intelligent - it will 
     send copies of itself to everyone whose e-mail address is contained in 
     a received-mail file or a sent-mail file, if it can find one.  It will 
     then trash the computer it is running on.
   
     The bottom line here is - if you receive a file with the subject line 
     "Good Times," delete it immediately!  Do not read it!  Rest assured 
     that whoever's name was on the "From:" line was surely struck by the 
     virus.
   
     Warn your friends and local system users of this newest threat to the 
     InterNet!  It could save them a lot of time and money."
   
     Please pass this on...especially to anyone you know that uses "America 
     Online" regularly.
   
   
   
   
   
   
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11.232If you're not on a PC, you MAY be safeTOOK::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Wed May 03 1995 23:542
  My system manager (I think) told me that this virus attacks PCs only, not
workstations. 
11.233KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Wed May 03 1995 23:5710
    
    
    
    we got a notice from corporate security almost at the same time that
    Terrie posted this warning saying that the threat was unsubstantiated.
    
    Go figure! 
    
    Chris
    :)
11.234SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CThu May 04 1995 00:104
    
    	yeah, it's a crock. Pay no attention....
    
    
11.235What a night!!PAKORA::KANDERSONHush!,Hush!Thu May 04 1995 00:377
    LFT:
    
        My hangover......!!!!!
    
        :-(
    
    Katrina
11.236I have no sympathy for you :-)KIRKTN::CPATRICKI love the Hib-eesThu May 04 1995 00:436
    re-1
    
    
     It serves you right  .......
    
     Sid
11.237KAMALA::DREYERSoon to be cruising!Thu May 04 1995 02:097
	LFT: Trying to send mail to Jackie to wish her safe flights and
             a wonderful holiday, but her node is not reachable!

	Chris, please pass this on to her!

	Thanks,
Lola
11.238From me tooooooo!LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu May 04 1995 02:159
    Yes Chris,
    also from me best wishes for a fine smooth transfer over here to the US
    
    Dear Jackie if you can read this before your vacation:
     
         Have a nice flight and arrive here healthy.
    
    ;)
    Martina_can't_hardly_wait_to_meet_Jackie
11.239KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu May 04 1995 02:3310
    
    
    
    I just got off Vaxphone with Jackie and I did pass on the message.
    
    She intends to send you a mail tomorrow Lola!
    She sends her hugs !
    
    Chris
    :)
11.240Is the Schnapps ready yet?CHEFS::WARRENJanother day in paradiseThu May 04 1995 02:3510
    Thanks  forthe good wishes, Lola and Martina. :-))
    
    Lola, As I said in mail, have a Wonderful time on your cruise too. you
    deserve a holiday after all those late shifts!
    
    Martina, I'm looking forward to meeting you also. I can still remember
    your happy giggles over the phone..that was some long-distance call!
    
    
    Jackie
11.241KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu May 04 1995 02:389
    
    
    
    Ah jolie Jaqueline has joined in!!...good night everyone
    
    Major hugs to all and kisses to Mlle Warren! :))
    
    Chris
    :)
11.242Happy holiday (that's British for vacation, right?LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu May 04 1995 02:4012
    *.-2
    
    Hello Jackie!!!!!!!!
    
    ;)
    
    Each ";)" stands for one happy giggle.
    
    ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
    Schoene Ferien!   (=Beautiful vacation)
    
    Martina
11.243:-))CHEFS::WARRENJanother day in paradiseThu May 04 1995 02:436
    
    re -1
    
    Yes, Vacation/holiday are one and the same!
    
    Jackie
11.244POOKY::OROURKEit must be THE CRUSH OF LOVEThu May 04 1995 03:365
    
    lft: missing today's lunch! :(
    
    /jen
    
11.245Good TimesANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Thu May 04 1995 12:454
	They told U not to read this, just to delete it... U never do what U
should do. What can I do for U?
						Funny,	BenJ.	;)
11.246OoooooopsssssLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu May 04 1995 18:555
    Oops, it was a joke and I sent it around.......
    
    Shame on me.
    ;)
    martina
11.247part of life I guessPOOKY::OROURKEit must be THE CRUSH OF LOVEThu May 04 1995 21:264
    
    lft: friends having struggles.
    
    
11.248NETCAD::WOODFORDBoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIngThu May 04 1995 23:2310
    
    
    LFT: Finding out the hard way, that I'm still the lowely
    pee-on I've always been around here.  Some things never change.
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.249KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu May 04 1995 23:288
    
    
    
    hope things brighten up for you Terrie!
    
    Hugs
    Chris
    :0
11.25050's SNARFKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu May 04 1995 23:284
    
    
    
    SNARF!!
11.251What saddens you so much?LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu May 04 1995 23:3415
    re *.-2:
    
    Poor Terrie, I don't know what the term means what you mentioned
    but here is a BIG hug from me.
    
    
                    HH  HH  UU  UU   GGGGG
                    HH  HH  UU  UU  GG
                    HHHHHH  UU  UU  GG  GGG
                    HH  HH  UU  UU  GG    GG
                    HH  HH   UUUU    GGGGGG
    
    
    ;)
    Martina
11.252NETCAD::WOODFORDBoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIngThu May 04 1995 23:4612
    
    
    Thanks Chris and Martina.
    
    
    Martina, A pee-on is the lowest form of life.  It's not
    a nice way to treat people.  And things will not change
    while I'm working here.
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.253SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CThu May 04 1995 23:517
    
    
    	well, just hunker down and join the rest of us pee-ons whilst we
    weather out the storm here in notesland.....:)
    
    
    chico
11.254OTOOA::CLESTERThu May 04 1995 23:587
    
    
    
    <---------Like Chico says.........:-)
    
    Craig
    
11.255NETCAD::WOODFORDBoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIngFri May 05 1995 17:4512
    
    
    Yup, that's what I'm doing, but it makes me feel better to say it once
    in a while.  Thanks Chico and Craig.
    
    
    LFT: Overindulgance(sp?) and the hang-overs that follow...
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.256No more gigs, no more dreamsLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri May 05 1995 18:2014
    LFT today: 
      I feel for a dear ex-colleague of mine   
        - Roy had to go to Colorado for several weeks and now he misses
          all the gigs he and his friend worked so hard for.
      
      Not being able to see Roy and his friend playing. It is always a
      great time of dreaming for me, their music is VERY inspirational,
      I travel to worlds I've never been before. Out there among the
      silent stars.
    
      It is so sad he had to cancel all of them in the next weeks.
    
    :(
    Martina
11.257LFT: Twix missing something...ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Fri May 05 1995 19:143
LFT: Twix_missing_a_beautifull_byte_snarf (.256)

	A really bad day, today, clock turning so slowly!	BenJ.   :(
11.258no timeBABAGI::LUSSIERWed May 10 1995 21:468
    
    
    LFT : Looks like I may have to back out from the activities planned for
          Jackie !
    
    
    Rich
    
11.259NETCAD::WOODFORDBoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIngWed May 10 1995 21:4710
    
    
    
    sniff.....sniff.....WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! :(
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.260ADCA01::RAVISHANKARItsAllAQuestionOfTimeZonesThu May 11 1995 17:436
    
    LFT: The PC I worked on since morning decide to give up on me and I've
    to set it up for a demo tomorrow... *8(((( so guess who is working
    late.. *8(((((
    
    Ravi.
11.261re .260ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Thu May 11 1995 18:058
	We're with U Ravi. If U work late, give us some news from time to time
and we'll be there to confort U...
	Ah PC!... I've never calculated the number of hours lost because of
troubles in a PC: problems with Microsoft softwares (I hate this group),
problems with DOS (Where's the one who created this non-system), problems with
printers, problems with memory access violation not detected, etc....

					Ainsi va la vie...	BenJ.	;)	
11.262ADCA01::RAVISHANKARItsAllAQuestionOfTimeZonesThu May 11 1995 18:098
    
    Hey BenJ,
    
    	I don't like Microsoft either.. *8)))))))
    Don't worry.. I ain't going anywhere.. not as yet atleast.. *8)
    
    Ravi.
    *8)
11.263VNABRW::MUDRA_MNo sera facilThu May 11 1995 18:188
    Hey guys,
    
    I like Microsoft. For me as user Windows is a nice little thing!!
    
    :-))))
    
    
    Tina
11.264How do U work, Tina?ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Thu May 11 1995 18:288
11.265Windows and DOSLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu May 11 1995 20:3613
Windows: I remember some years ago I was beta tester for Windows 3.0.
Woops. I trusted it too far: it broke and I could spend a complete night
trying to reconstruct my file system. With Norton Disk doctor.
:(

Nowadays: Windows NT 3.5 runs fine. I use it on both Intel and Alpha and
normally don't encounter problems with it. 

DOS: was actually designed as a program loader. That's what it is. Nothing
more. It does not at all encorporate any operating system concepts.

;)
Martina
11.266BABAGI::LUSSIERMon May 15 1995 21:4810
    
    
    LFT:  Leaving Jake's Saturday (er, Sunday) without having a chance to
          say goodbye to everyone.
    
    Rich
    
    
    
          
11.267NETCAD::WOODFORDBoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIoiOIngMon May 15 1995 21:4910
    
    
    LFT: Not remembering who I did and didn't say goodbye to saturday
    night......and I only had one beer all night!  :}
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.268oh well..till next year!POOKY::OROURKEThe Bruins need Heimlich HelpMon May 15 1995 23:047
    
    
    LFT:  Both the Boston and Providence Bruins have been eliminated from
    the hockey play offs. :(
    
    /jen
    
11.269can't wait for vaca!POOKY::OROURKEThe Bruins need Heimlich HelpTue May 16 1995 04:535
    
    lft: more late nights.  :(
    
    /j
    
11.270SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CTue May 16 1995 05:167
    
    
    
    	evenin' Jen....
    
    
    chico
11.271KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesTue May 16 1995 06:336
LFT: Steve slamming his hand in the car door this morning...he's O.K. though,
     only bruised.  Should be able to return to work tomorrow.  What a way to
     end a vacation!


Lola
11.272VNABRW::MUDRA_MNo sera facilTue May 16 1995 12:1410
    re -1
    
    Poor Steve!!
    
    
    My LFT: I received the credit card bill for my vacation yesterday :-(
    
    
    
    Tina
11.273Hi Tina!ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Tue May 16 1995 13:115
	re -1

	Why is it a LFT?

				Je n'ai pas tout saisi...	BenJ.	;)
11.274A very very very long day today...ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Tue May 16 1995 13:296
	LFT: My manager's absent today, and I need him to define the second part
of my job here. I'm asking myself what I'm gonna do today... I probably will
have to read and anderstand complex documents about drivers and hat on
WxWorks... This is absolutely new for me!	:( 

					J'ai pas envie...	BenJ.	:(
11.275What a question! :-)VNABRW::MUDRA_MNo sera facilTue May 16 1995 13:508
    re .273
    
    'cause I have to pay a lot of money!!
    
    :-(
    
    
    Tina
11.276ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Tue May 16 1995 14:067
	re -1

	Excuse me Tina, I just forgot the meaning of *bill*. I seem to be
ridiculous now... Maybe, the bill reminds U some good souvenirs even if U've got
to pay...

				Anderstanding now but lately,	BenJ.	;)
11.277NETCAD::WOODFORDCouch=ForRestOrForePlay.Tue May 16 1995 17:3010
    
    
    LFT: I have to take my english placement test tonight. :(
    
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.278SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CTue May 16 1995 20:075
    
    	You'll do fine darlin'...quit worryin'....
    
    
    chico
11.279I'll be thinking about youLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaWed May 17 1995 01:3214
    Hello Terrie,
    
      X X    X    X  X
     
      ^      ^    ^
      |      |    |
      |      |    +----  Crossed fingers of my right hand
      |      +---------  Crossed thumbs
      +----------------  Crossed fingers of my left hand
    
    Good Luck!
    
    Hugs,
    Martina
11.280LFT: I'll embarass myself on MondayLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaWed May 17 1995 22:1416
    LFT for this week: 
       On Monday I have to give a presentation at the Technical Exchange
       Event in Providence. There will be 2 sessions, just in case that
       I happen to survive the first one. ;)
       Each session will be with 50-60 critical customers and I will
       tell them all the theories behind our project and what their
       benefits will be.
    
    But the biggest LFT for that event is: The customers will ask critical
    questions..... in ENGLISH!!!!!
    
    :(
    The Alien can no longer hide behind its illiteracism
    
    ;)
    Martina
11.281totally different accent! :^)POOKY::OROURKEThe Bruins need Heimlich HelpWed May 17 1995 22:485
    
    Beware Martina....they'll actually speak in Rhode Island-ism...which
    often isn't English at all!
    
    /jen
11.282MARVIN::MORRELLLeeds United FC Greatest team in football the world has everseenWed May 17 1995 22:5314
    >they'll actually speak in Rhode Island-ism...which often isn't English
    >at all!
    
    	Its like the difference between how the Americans speak & how the
    English speak.... 
    
    
    
    ;->>>>>>>>>
    
    	Cheers,
    
    		Rick.
    	
11.283Go on laughing at meLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaWed May 17 1995 23:564
    you guys have good laughing. Try to do a presentation in German
    ..... in Munich.
    
    ;)
11.284I never did that beforeLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu May 18 1995 01:0310
    I never held any English presentation for other people than
    friendly nice Digital colleagues. For me this will be a challenging
    experience.
    
    ;)
    Martina
    
    I am a little frightened.
    
    :(
11.285KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesThu May 18 1995 01:467
	LFT: hearing Martina is frightened.  Don't worry, after speaking to you
	     I know you'll do fine.  You've got a wonderful vocabulary and are
             very easy to understand!

	Best of luck!

	Lola
11.286I always do that....LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu May 18 1995 01:5816
    Thank you. It is good to know that I won't be psychologically alone
    on Monday. ;) ;) ;)
    Also: a colleague of mine has his presentations at the same time 
    some rooms away. And he is in the same situation: he is from India.
    But.... already in the US for quite some years.
    
    And....... I always volunteer for things that broaden my experience
    horizon and am frightened of my own courage afterwards.
    That's how I got over here. ;) ;) ;)
    
    And NOW is the time when I can indulge in being frightened. On Monday
    I will just walk in front of the audience and it will be just another great
    challenge in an exciting game.
    
    ;)
    Martina_only_inofficially_frightened_and_only_a_little
11.287KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesThu May 18 1995 02:213
	Ahhh, that sounds more like the Martina we know and love!!!


11.288ADCA01::RAVISHANKARItsAllAQuestionOfTimeZonesThu May 18 1995 08:299
    
    Martina,
    
    	*HUGS* to keep your courage up !! *8)
    
    	I'm sure you'll do great... Anybody who can write poetry in english
    can't have a bad diction... *8)))))
    
    Ravi.
11.289Continuing the serie of *HUGS*ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Thu May 18 1995 12:3612
	Twix U know I'm allways there to give some support when U need it.
	I look like U, cause I love the challenges. Each time I'm frightened
before the begining of a presentation, but after, when I talk about something I
really know cause I've worked hardly on it, I feel much more comfortable, it
becomes easy to talk...
	I do agree with Ravi, Twix can make beautifull poems in English, she's
got enough vocabulary to express herself. Furthermore, a litle touch of accent
is allways appreciated...
	Twix, take advantages of your situation, use body language and all your
feelings, show them your the best alien in US...

					Alien, moi aussi,	BenJ.	;)
11.290NETCAD::WOODFORDCouch=ForRestOrForePlay.Thu May 18 1995 17:1512
    
    
    Great big huge **HUGS** of support to Martina!
    Don't worry your pretty head about it.  You'll
    do fabulously!!  I have great confidence in you!
    
    If all else fails, just smile.  You'll win their 
    hearts! :*)
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.291CAPNET::VENTURAImagine whirrled peas.Thu May 18 1995 18:447
    Lots of positive energy headed your way, Martina.  From talking to you
    and hearing your english, I know that you're going to do just fine.
    
    Lots of MEGAHUGS!!
    
    Holly
    
11.292I "hold the thumbs"VNABRW::MUDRA_MNo sera facilThu May 18 1995 19:255
    All the best for Monday, M-tina!
    
    
    
    T.
11.293Hope tomorrow it's gonna change...ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Thu May 18 1995 20:556
LFT:  Triing to anderstand the bugs in my software. Working on a VT (U know what
it means...), in a very very very hot room without any windows and absolutely
alone. Seeing the weather still awfull...

		Think I'm gonna leave soon!
				Needing positive energy,	BenJ.	:(
11.294LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu May 18 1995 21:0824
    Hello my friends!
     
       The most favourite thing is: to have such good friends like you.
       ;) ;) ;)
    
    Hugs for everyone!
    Martina
    
       Poor BenJ! Here is some positive energy for you. 
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    
    Working all alone on a bl* VT in a room without windows but with lots
    of heat from all the systems around you makes you feel cooked. It
    dampens your brain and takes your creativity away. You poor thing I
    feel for you. You really need us around you. Maybe the thought that
    we in Europe, Canada and the US think about you lets you feel a little
    bit comfortable. You only are physically alone. We are all with you
    in your afternoon. We guide you through the worst time of your day:
    after lunch, when all enthusiasm of the morning is gone, when you're
    weak and tired, ready to give up, then we're there for you.
    Tell us about your dreams, your worries. We share with you.
    
    ;)
    Twix
11.295NAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Thu May 18 1995 23:463
    LFT: life
    
    
11.296c'mon....be optimistic.POOKY::OROURKEThe Bruins need Heimlich HelpFri May 19 1995 00:085
    
    lft: A's Lft....positive thoughts to you!
    
    /jen
    
11.297ADCA01::RAVISHANKARItsAllAQuestionOfTimeZonesFri May 19 1995 08:366
    
    LFT: A's lft... *8(((
    
    	*HUGS* and *SMOOCHES*
    
    Ravi.
11.298SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CFri May 19 1995 16:349
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	Being called a fascist. It still bugs me even tho' I know they are
    WAY off base...
    
    
    chico
11.299NETCAD::WOODFORDUSER ERROR::ReplaceUser/PressAnyKeyToCont.Fri May 19 1995 20:1110
    
    
    LFT: Alan's aunt passed away early this morning following
    emergency surgery, and a massive heart attack. :*(
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.300SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CFri May 19 1995 20:157
    
    
    	Lft:
    
    	Alan's aunt passing away...my condolences to all.
    
    chico
11.301Not a good day todayLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri May 19 1995 20:1610
    LFT:   - hearing about Ann's problems
           - hearing that some people cannot stay away from misjudging
             nice warmhearted Chico
           - hearing about the death of Terrie's Aunt-in-Law
    
    This is a severely sinister day. There are dark clouds drawing and
    a slight fabric rupture can be sensed today.
    More will happen.
    
    Martina 
11.302SUBPAC::SADINOne if by LAN, two if by CFri May 19 1995 20:228
    
    
    	re: .301
    
    	the day will get better......there's sun behind those clouds...
    
    
    chico
11.303re -1ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Fri May 19 1995 20:366
11.304LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri May 19 1995 20:387
    Not today. I mean it psychicly. The sun can come out physically but
    the fabric rupture is there. We'll see at the end of the day.
    There are more bad things happening today than on other days.
    That's what I meant.
    
    ;)
    Martina
11.305Why do I bother...POOKY::OROURKEThe Bruins need Heimlich HelpFri May 19 1995 21:137
    
    LFT:  That I think Martina's prediction is coming true over here.
    
    LFT:  Non-constructive DORKs that send out flaming mail to play
    politics rather than trying to work the actual issues.
    
    /jen
11.306SUBPAC::SADINWe the people?Mon May 22 1995 16:097
    
    	LFT:
    
    	not being able to feast on Death By Chocolate at the box-bash....
    
    
    chico
11.307EMIRFI::CAHILLTue May 23 1995 18:519
    
    LFT:  Taping the wrong channel last night.  If anyone taped the
    	  the Tailhook Movie that was on last night at 9:00 on Channel
          5 and would be willing to let me borrow it, I would sure
          appreciate it.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Dianne
11.308I missed to tape VOY !!!!!LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaTue May 23 1995 19:249
LFT: similar to Dianne: I forgot to program to tape StarTrek Voyager
     yesterday. :(   Since it's been shifted around so much I took out
     the EveryMondayAutomaticTape-Job......  and missed it promptly.

     Better luck next Sunday. The repeat is on directly before Babylon 5
     then.

;)
Martina
11.309NETCAD::WOODFORDUSER ERROR::ReplaceUser/PressAnyKeyToCont.Wed May 24 1995 19:3913
    
    
    Went to the eye doctors yesterday, after having spent almost two weeks
    with a swolen eye.  Ended up needing to drain fluid from the eye with
    the use of a needle, causing me grave pain.  And as if that wasn't
    enough, the eye doctor informed me that I need bifocals!! :(  I guess I
    am officially old......
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.310KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Wed May 24 1995 20:059
    
    
    re -1
    
    hein? what did ya say sweetie....speak into the bull horn..us old
    timers can't hear ya anymore!!!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.311Not youLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu May 25 1995 19:1710
    Poor Terrie! Pain in the eyes hurts really bad. You poor thing!
    Here is a big big hug for you.
    Getting old is not a matter of getting glasses. I got mine with 13, my
    "little" brother got his with 3. Getting old is when you become stiff
    in your mind, close yourself to other people's attitudes and loose your
    own flexibility. 
    Don't worry, you'll never get old.
    
    ;)
    Martina
11.312NETCAD::WOODFORDUSER ERROR::ReplaceUser/PressAnyKeyToCont.Thu May 25 1995 19:2212
    
    
    Thank you Martina!  :*)  Actually, I've been wearing glasses
    since I was 10 years old.  This is just my first pair of
    bifocals.
    
    Now, there is a difference between getting old and growing up. :*)
    I will NEVER EVER grow up. :*)
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.313Growing up means...LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu May 25 1995 19:4716
    You ARE grown up. ;)
    Growing up means: 
       - looking at the world and be aware of all its nice little things
         that make life worth living for: eg the scent of flowers, the
         colours of a day, birds singing, etc.
       - being able to cherish the fun moments and keep them in your heart
         when you run into difficult times
       - capture the sun and let it brighten your heart even on rainy
         days
       - not to whine in despair on a day where everything seems to go
         wrong, because for you things will get better the next day
    
    Some people never come to that stage and I feel sorry for them.
    
    ;)
    Martina_grown_up
11.314;-(VNABRW::MUDRA_MNo sera facilFri May 26 1995 11:321
    LFT: having flu
11.315SUBPAC::SADINWe the people?Fri May 26 1995 16:236
    
    
    	<hugs> Tina.....hope you feel better soon...
    
    
    chico
11.316KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Fri May 26 1995 16:3211
    
    
    
    poor poor Tina
    
    
    Mega Hugs your way!
    
    
    Chris
    :)
11.317NETCAD::WOODFORDUSER ERROR::ReplaceUser/PressAnyKeyToCont.Fri May 26 1995 17:359
    
    
    Feel better soon Tina!
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.318Microsoft Word for WindowsLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaSat May 27 1995 00:518
    Writing with Microsoft Word. :(((
    
    Word Perfect is much better. ;) ;) ;)
    
    But I get along with Word. Somehow.
    
    ;)
    Martina
11.319POOKY::OROURKEThe Bruins need Heimlich HelpSat May 27 1995 00:538
    
    LFT:  Being so far behind at work cuz I've been in offsite meetings all
    week!
    
    VLFT:  It being my boss' last hour at work....I'm gonna miss her!
    
    /jen
    
11.320LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaSat May 27 1995 01:038
    Hello Jen!
    
       you poor thing. It is disgusting to see a huge pile of work just
       insistingly staying on your desk and increasing instead of dimini-
       shing. I hope you won't have to come on the weekend.
    
    Hugs,
    Martina
11.321CAPNET::VENTURAImagine whirrled peas.Sat May 27 1995 01:345
    Martina.. I'm an expert at Microsoft word.  Any problems with it, send
    mail and I'll see if I can help.
    
    Holly
    
11.322Thank you HollyLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaSat May 27 1995 01:4410
    Hello Holly!
    
       You are a sweetheart. ;) Within only a little time I'll run into the
    problem of my document getting bigger and bigger. Then I'll gladly
    appreciate any help. Footers including chapter titles and numbers, etc.
    
    Thank you !!!!!
    
    ;)
    Martina_learning_MS-Word
11.323LoveLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaSat May 27 1995 08:4518
    
    LFT: Love
    
    Reason: it is a 4 letter word.
    
    So are:
      pain, tear-drop, hope? none, sigh!, late?, hard fact: hope-less real.
    
    Martina_likes_wordgames_and_hates_tears
    
    
    Have a great long weekend everyone. The weather's supposed to be
    gorgeous. See you all back on Tuesday.
    BenJ: I hope you're not all alone in here on Monday. Here in the US
    we have a holiday: Memorial Day. 
    
    ;)
    Martina_Weekend's just begone
11.324re -1ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Mon May 29 1995 12:226
	Thanxs Twix for thinking about me after 4 days out!
	It makes me hot in my heart. (my English is allways so bad!)

	Happy free day to all! Hope the sun is shining in US too...

					Mon WE est fini...	BenJ.	;)
11.325it's gonna be a long life!POOKY::OROURKEThe Bruins need Heimlich HelpTue May 30 1995 19:155
    
    
    LFT:  Day one with no boss....
    
    /jen
11.326SUBPAC::SADINWe the people?Tue May 30 1995 20:536
    
    	LFT:
    
    	idjits!!!!
    
    chico
11.327*Much* further driveKAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesWed May 31 1995 03:526
	LFT: Hearing definitely that our business will be moving to Salem,
	     NH...

	LFT: Decisions

	Lola
11.328CHEFS::WARRENJanother day in paradiseWed May 31 1995 05:1110
    
    
    LFT: Mess  andbeing woken in the middle of the night becauseof it
    :-((((
    
    Lola, Hope all works out OK for you.
    
    
    
    Jackie
11.329KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesWed May 31 1995 05:4317
    
    
>    LFT: Mess  andbeing woken in the middle of the night becauseof it
    :-((((
 

	Hope it's not too much of a mess, Jackie...
   
   > Lola, Hope all works out OK for you.
    
	Thanks, it'll work out somehow.
    
    
    Hugs,
    Lola

11.330CHEFS::WARRENJanother day in paradiseFri Jun 02 1995 11:245
    LFT: Bugs that won't go away
    
    LFT: getting let down by someone who I thought was a good friend
    
    Jackie
11.331VNABRW::MUDRA_MFrom time to timeFri Jun 02 1995 11:2911
    
    re -1
    
    >getting let down by someone who I thought was a good friend
    
    
    Sorry to hear that, Jackie!
    
    
    
    Tina
11.332re -2ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Fri Jun 02 1995 12:047
	Life is like that Jackie... It's sad.

	But think that each friend U loose, U can open yourself to others and
make other good friends. Think that we ::FRIENDS are still here and that U can't
count us!

			Un sourire et la tristesse est partie!	BenJ.	;)
11.333Hugs for poor JackieLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri Jun 02 1995 20:1115
    Poor Jackie!
    
    To be let down by a close good friend is a terrible thing to
    experience. Suddenly all the trust and reliability is gone. You find
    yourself floating in an open ocean without any support, nothing to lean
    on. The support you imagined to be there suddenly turned out to be
    nothing but a shadow, a lame fluffy foam. 
    
    Turn around to the other friends you have. Don't let yourself be bugged
    by this. I had to go through something and unveiled a lot. 
    And there is a good part in it: at the end you'll always end up a lot
    wiser. 
    
    HUGS!!!
    Martina
11.334KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Sat Jun 03 1995 00:188
    
    
    
    You guys are great! Thanks for showing so much care and support
    for a fellow ::Friend. 
    
    Chris
    :)
11.335POOKY::OROURKEThe Bruins need Heimlich HelpSat Jun 03 1995 04:474
    
    LFT: Working late again...getting to be a bad habit lately!
    
    /jen
11.336NETCAD::WOODFORDUSER ERROR::ReplaceUser/PressAnyKeyToCont.Sat Jun 03 1995 18:069
    
    
    VFT:  Getting taken out of LKG by abulance yesterday.
    I collapsed in pain in the lab. :(  Turned out to be a
    burst ovarian cyst.  Not a big deal really, but more pain
    than I can remember in a very long time! :(
    
    
    Terrie, logged in from home to send a fethank you notes.
11.337KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Sun Jun 04 1995 00:206
    
    
    Major hope you feel better hugs Terrie!!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.338Ouch!CHEFS::WARRENJanother day in paradiseSun Jun 04 1995 00:215
    Terrie,
    
    Sorry to hear about that.  Hope you feel better soon.
    
    Jackie
11.339whaaa ouchKIRKTN::APARKCool Calm Collected.NOT.Sun Jun 04 1995 01:369
    
    
     Hi Terrie,
    
              hope you feel better soon,ovarian cysts are very painful
    
    
    
                        Angie
11.340AKOMI2::OROURKEThe Bruins need Heimlich HelpSun Jun 04 1995 06:187
    
    LFT:  Terrie being stricken! :(
    
    Hope you're feeling better.
    
    /jen
    
11.341ADCA01::RAVISHANKARInTheQuestForNewTimeZonesMon Jun 05 1995 09:516
    
    LFT: Hearing about Terrie's pain... *8((((
    
    	*HUGS* and a get well soon *SMOOCH*
    
    Ravi.
11.342CAPNET::VENTURAImagine whirrled peas.Mon Jun 05 1995 17:477
    LFT:  Hearing about Terrie's cyst.  Terrie, write to me.  I've been
    through the EXACT same thing.
    
    HUGS!!
    
    Holly
    
11.343SUBPAC::SADINWe the people?Mon Jun 05 1995 17:496
    
    
    	Big HUGS to Terrie Two-Shoes! My poor darlin'....:(
    
    
    chico
11.344NETCAD::WOODFORDUSER ERROR::ReplaceUser/PressAnyKeyToCont.Mon Jun 05 1995 18:4412
    
    
    Thank you everyone for your well wishes.  I'm back to work today and
    feeling much better.  I still can't do stairs, and I'm walking with
    baby steps, but I'm ok.
    
    
    
    Thanks,
    
    Terrie
    
11.345hugsKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Mon Jun 05 1995 19:1012
    
    
    Hi Terrie
    
    Glad to hear your well enough to face work!
    Baby Steps worked for "BOB" so i guess it'll work for you too! :)))
    
    Hope you feel better soon!
    Hugs
    Chris
    :)
      
11.346Hugs for poor TerrieLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaMon Jun 05 1995 19:349
    Poor Terrie!
    
      I hope you feel better soon. Better baby steps and being over with
      the worst part than still in hospital. Take it easy and let Alan
      take good care of yourself.
      Big HUGS for you!!!!!
    
    :(
    Martina
11.347The wind is goneLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaWed Jun 07 1995 01:389
    No more wind!
    
    The wind beneath my purple wings just turned down.
    Now I gotta find a new environment with new wind.
    But luckily there shall be plenty of wind out here 
    for me to fly on.
    
    :(
    Martina
11.348VNABRW::MUDRA_MYou want me, you get meWed Jun 07 1995 10:238
    LFT: Too much work
    
    LFT: I forgot my badge this morning and so I can't go to the fitness
         center :-(
    
    
    
    Tina_sleepy
11.349yuck!POOKY::OROURKEheaven help the heartWed Jun 07 1995 19:277
    
    LFT: Having to have a cat scan done this afternoon cuz of my stupid
    sinus infection that won't go away!
    
    :(
    
    /jen
11.350KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Wed Jun 07 1995 19:3410
    
    
    re -1
    
    Wow!! sounds serious!! 
    Here are some supportive hugs for you!!
    
    Hug hug hug hug
    
    Chris
11.351SUBPAC::SADINWe the people?Wed Jun 07 1995 21:439
    
    
    	My son had to have a CAT scan done because of sinus infections too.
    It's painless....just don't move.....:)
    
    	Good luck kiddo!
    
    
    	chico
11.352LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu Jun 08 1995 01:4611
    Hello Jen,
    
       I wish you luck with your CAT scan. It is no big deal. I had one
       done 2 years ago. It is actually pretty relaxing. You're not supposed
       to move and can close your eyes. So ..... well, I was about to fall
       asleep. ;)))))
    
       Best wishes for your sinuses to get better soon!
    
    Hugs,
    Martina 
11.353LFT for this weekLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu Jun 08 1995 02:138
    LFT:     - unprofessional behaviour
             - rivalty among partner groups
             - watching an important project being compromised because
               of that
             - possibility of personal jeopardy as a result
    
    :(
    Martina
11.354KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesThu Jun 08 1995 02:218
	Oh my, just got here for my first day this week, I've been out sick :-(

	So sorry to read about Terrie, /jen and Martina's worries.

	Best of luck to all of you!!!

	Hugs,
	Lola
11.355KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu Jun 08 1995 02:368
    
    
    
    Yes...I hope things pick up for you business wise Martina!
    
    Hugs
    Chris
    :)
11.356Thank you for being my friendLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu Jun 08 1995 03:0212
    Oh it feels so good to have friends. ;))))))
    
    We have another exciting Engineering project in our group going where
    I could certainly make significant contributions to. I just talked
    with the corresponding team leader right now. 
    But it feels kindo sad how our project is jeopardized by politics right 
    now.
    
    Thank all of you for your support and shoulders to lean on.
    
    ;)
    Martina
11.357KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu Jun 08 1995 03:117
    
    
    
    thats what friends are for Martina!! ;)))
    
    Chris
    :)
11.358re -1ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Thu Jun 08 1995 12:338
	True!

	It's sad to see U can't help other groups in their project because of
manager's politics... Well, Twix, forget it and try to concentrate yourself on
the work you're paid for.

	Hugs for Terrie and /jen.
					::Friend lui aussi,	BenJ.	;)
11.359NETCAD::WOODFORDUSER ERROR::ReplaceUser/PressAnyKeyToCont.Thu Jun 08 1995 17:4613
    
    
    Martina....sounds just like the Digital I've known for some time now.
    Don't let it get you down.  You're a survivor, and it shows.  Maybe
    that survivor attitude will rub off on your co-workers and your
    project.  Here's hoping it does!!
    
    
    **HUGS**
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.360Mr. Data says: "There are always options". ;)LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu Jun 08 1995 22:0118
    Hello Terrie and BenJ!
    
       thank you so much for you concerns. ;)
       Our project will either go to the west coast or stay here. We're
       putting together a great proposal as a response. Then a decision
       will be made. ;)
       Possibility for the west coast is higher though. But that's not
       the end of the world.
       BenJ: exactly this project is where I'm working on. So when it's
       gone, work to concentrate is also gone. ;)
       Right now I'm evaluating other opportunities within our group.
       This caesura enables me to look around and check the different
       career paths right now. 
       You see, things have their own dynamic. For me any end always
       marks a new start. Let's see what comes out this time. ;)))
    
    ;)
    Martina_doesn't_believe_in_grief
11.361KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu Jun 08 1995 22:257
    
    
    
    good attitude Martina!!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.362re -2ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Fri Jun 09 1995 12:245
	Happy to see U take it this way Twix. Go on being positive like that and
everything will be OK for U. When s.o is positive in his mind positive things
happen to him. It's magic (or psychologic?)!

						Positively,	BenJ.	;)
11.363Positivation of negative impactsLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri Jun 09 1995 19:5513
    Hello BenJ!
    
       Thank you for seeing it that way. ;)
       You're right, "looking at things positively" it is a psychological 
       trick of mine. It really works. After all the health hassle and
       other stuff I've been through I came to a point where you "think
       things positive". ;)
       You touch the multi dimensional fibers and influence their vibration.
       Their 4 dimensional projection in our universe will offer positive
       opportunities. But.... you gotta seek them.
    
    ;)
    Martina-Data knows what makes the universe tick
11.364US pollens must be different than German ones...LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri Jun 09 1995 19:5910
    LFT:  today's immense pollen flow
          running eyes - faster than a gepard.....
          running nose - competing against my eyes on establishing a new
                         world record
    
    ;)
    Martina-Data
    
    Why ;) and not :( ?
    Because I don't believe in negative things. ;)))))
11.365Icecream melts in the sun...LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri Jun 09 1995 22:048
    LFT: going to Kimballs at noon (ok, actually it was 12:03) and not 
         seeing any ::friends.
         So I took a nice walk in the sun and slobbered my icecream.
         Slurp slurp slurp slurp. ;)
    
         Where has everybody been?
    
    Martina-Data with chocolate icecream spots on her skirt
11.366CAPNET::VENTURAImagine whirrled peas.Fri Jun 09 1995 22:475
    LFT:  Eating Kimballs ice cream alone.  Martina, you should have waited
    just a little while.  I showed up around 12:15. )-:
    
    Holly
    
11.367Let's try again!LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri Jun 09 1995 22:503
That's too bad!!! I missed you Holly.

We should plan this again.
11.368Mr. Data says: Human emotions alert!!!LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaSun Jun 11 1995 10:117
    LFT tonight: Very good friends of mine are moving away this summer.
    I am very happy for them, but somehow, they've been something like
    family for me since I came over here. And now they'll be gone soon.
    I of course encourage them in their decision but it still feels a little 
    sad to me.
    
    Martina_selfish_for_one_minute
11.369A very sad snarf...ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Mon Jun 12 1995 12:073
	LFT: A 69 alone...

						Attendant ses amis...	BenJ.
11.370double jointed or what???????PAKORA::KANDERSONHush!,Hush!Mon Jun 12 1995 12:245
    69 ALONE!!..............you must be so very clever.....  
    
    
    
    :-)
11.371ADCA01::RAVISHANKARInTheQuestForNewTimeZonesMon Jun 12 1995 13:136
    
    LFT: Heat wave !!
    
    LFT: there is a limit to how much one can take off !!
    
    Ravi.
11.372:*)SUBPAC::SADINWe the people?Mon Jun 12 1995 16:256
    
>    LFT: there is a limit to how much one can take off !!
    
    	is not....
    
    
11.373KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Mon Jun 12 1995 17:184
    
    Hmmm love that 69 comment Kat! :)))
    
    
11.374ADCA01::RAVISHANKARInTheQuestForNewTimeZonesMon Jun 12 1995 17:186
>>>    LFT: there is a limit to how much one can take off !!
    
>>    	is not....
    
    	Well then tell me how can I get my B'day suit off ?? *;)))))
    
11.375KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Mon Jun 12 1995 17:205
    
    
    
    
    go and watch Silence of the Lambs for that :*O
11.376Not fun!KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesTue Jun 13 1995 02:505
LFT: Two very bruised legs and one very ripped shirt getting into and out of
     our attic crawl space yesterday!

Lola

11.377KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesTue Jun 13 1995 02:568
Ravi,

Take it off...take it ALL off!!!  Then have a good frind run ice cubes all over
your body!

Hugs,
Lola

11.378Icecubes???? Too wetLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaTue Jun 13 1995 03:077
    Too wet for my taste. I already hate the degree of muggyness here in
    New England. On days like that I do the following:
    
    Go working. 
    
    ;)
    Martina_in_nicely_air_conditioned_LJO2
11.379ADCA01::RAVISHANKARInTheQuestForNewTimeZonesTue Jun 13 1995 11:3212
    
    Re: Chico
    
    	Nah.. that way is too messy... How'll I get back into it in
    winters, huh? *8)))
    
    Laura,
    
    	Won't be a pretty sight if I take it all of... *;)))) and that too
    after ice-cubes... hehehehe
    
    Ravi.
11.380Tired, sad, alone, grey...ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Tue Jun 13 1995 17:324
	LFT: Winter in June...
	LFT: Manager unable to anderstand why U've got problems to do something.

					Attendant Vendredi,	BenJ.	:-(
11.381Grey awakening????LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaTue Jun 13 1995 20:0517
    My poor poor darling!
    
    You sound so sad today. Has really Winter come back to France? Or is it
    your heart that feels the cold environment around you? Do you feel like
    not part of the work world around you today? And are you still sitting
    in that lab without windows? Probably it is not even worth to have
    windows today: just grey outside. Here, too.
    But..... rain and stormy wet weather means also..... renewal. See the
    soil gladly takes the water and uses it for revival of its creating
    powers. The plants's leaves are washed clean from the pollution and
    a phase of growth is again initiated.
    If you take that into account, the grey misarable weather suddenly
    gets a different, positive touch.
    I think you, with your deeper understanding of the universe's fibers
    should see that. ;)
    
    Twix
11.382re -1ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Tue Jun 13 1995 20:534
	The answer is YES for each question U wrote. U know myself very well
Twixy! As for the renewal, wait and see.

					Tomorrow maybe...	BenJ.	;)
11.383My Pentium PCI system just died sniff sniffLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaWed Jun 14 1995 00:2812
    LFT today: 
        - My Intel system already was cranky sometimes for quite a while.
          Today it just gave up. Even taking out and rearranging PCI boards
          doesn't get it to run anymore.
          :(
          Now I'm installing Windows NT and all the software on another one
          in my office and have to wait until Field Service shows up with
          a new motherboard.
          But I still can read my mails in the lab.
    
    ;)
    Martina
11.384No fancy BMPs and GIFs :(LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTMr. Data loves vacationWed Jun 14 1995 02:258
    LFT:  As a follower I now am installing everything onto another system.
          But.... because my major system is dead, I can't access its disks
          with all the BMP files and nice GIF thingies without taking out
          the hard disks. And I don't plan on doing that because the other
          system already has enough disks installed.
    
    ;)
    Martina-Data
11.385Anderstanding U haven't anderstood anything...ANNECY::BALAS_BSomeone, somewhere, somehow, and me...Wed Jun 14 1995 14:544
LFT: Needing to anderstand code written by s.o else with WRONG comments!
LFT: Anderstanding that nobody can help U in what U have to do...

					Ainsi va la vie... 	BenJ.	;)
11.386<KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Wed Jun 14 1995 21:0110
    
    
    
    LFT: frozen mouth after visiting the dentist!! :(
    
    LFT: people teasing me when i have a frozen mouth after visiting the
         dentist! :)))))
    
    Chris
    :)
11.387I really hate dentist visits!POOKY::OROURKEheaven help the heartWed Jun 14 1995 21:134
    
    LFT:  Chris drooling while noting in ::FRIENDS! :^)
    
    /jen
11.388KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu Jun 15 1995 00:566
    
    
    
    RE  -1
    
    DOOP!
11.389CHEFS::WARRENJanother day in paradiseThu Jun 15 1995 01:077
    re -3
    
    now who'd do that? 
    
    LFT: Feeling guilty! ;-)
    
    Jackie  0 :-)
11.390KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu Jun 15 1995 06:5210
    
    
    
    
    Ms. Warren -------> }:-)
    
    that halo is totally gone!! :)))
    
    Chris
    :)
11.391get me out of here!POOKY::OROURKEheaven help the heartFri Jun 16 1995 04:345
    LFT: working late again...
    
    grrrrrrrr...can't wait for vaca!
    
    
11.392VYGER::BONEMThe man from MAYBOLE,he say yes!Fri Jun 16 1995 18:522
    LFT: Managers and Supervisors who don't have any feelings
         for there workers!
11.393I feel for you :(LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTFri Jun 16 1995 21:1810
    Hello Marti, you poor thing!
      
       I don't know what is wrong, but here is a special big HUG for
       you!!!!
    
    
       HHHHUUUUGGGGGGGGGGG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
    
    ;)
    Martina
11.394POWDML::VENTURAImagine whirrled peas.Mon Jun 19 1995 21:116
    LFT:  Breaking my toe Saturday morning.
    
    YOWCH!!!
    
    Holly
    
11.395KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Tue Jun 20 1995 00:2211
    
    
    
    Yowsa!! talk about your pain!! I hate it when that happens!!
    
    
    LFT: got a frozen mouth again after visiting the dentist...this one 
         froze clear up to my eyes!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.396MASALA::SWRIGHTOur Souls are CleanTue Jun 20 1995 06:023
    
    LFT: Going for a nice big Number 2 and finding out there's no 
         paper left....!!  
11.397VNABRW::MUDRA_MYou want me, you get meTue Jun 20 1995 10:307
    -3
    
    Poor Holly, big hug for you!!!
    
    
    
    Tina
11.398KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Tue Jun 20 1995 16:438
    
    
    
    
    LFT:  last day in Friends::
    
    Chris
    :(
11.399KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Tue Jun 20 1995 16:444
    
    
    
    set up for  --->
11.400snarfy last dayKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Tue Jun 20 1995 16:444
    
    
    
    SNARF!
11.401SUBPAC::SADINWe the people?Wed Jun 21 1995 16:1413
    
    	bye Chris!!! write soon bud!
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	seeing Chris go!
    
    	LFT2:
    
    	feeling generally bummed out....
    
    chico
11.402Good bye Dolly I must leave you....MASALA::SWRIGHTWed Jun 21 1995 23:156
    
    LFT:  Last night in notes....
    
    
    
    
11.403Bye bye DigitsKIRKTN::TBARRETTI Look Better in PinkThu Jun 22 1995 07:013
    
    
    wOT STEVE SAID
11.404 Toodle Looooo!!PAKORA::KANDERSONHush!,Hush!Thu Jun 22 1995 09:451
    wot they two said too
11.405KIRKTN::TBARRETTI Look Better in PinkThu Jun 22 1995 09:462
    
    aswell.
11.406Hopes and prayersLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTLife is fun, live it!Tue Jun 27 1995 02:528
    LFT today:
       The mother of a good friend of mine is in hospital to get a
       difficult operation done tomorrow. Let's all hope for the best
       and combine our positive energy towards her. 
       I sincerely hope all will go well for her.
    
    :(
    Martina-Data
11.407VNABRW::MUDRA_MHo perso la mia animaTue Jun 27 1995 11:018
    
    re -1
    
    All my best wishes for her!!
    
    
    
    T.
11.408A big lostVNABRW::MUDRA_MHo perso la mia animaThu Jun 29 1995 13:578
    Last night a very dear collegue died. She was only 51 years old. She
    had cancer.
    
    Although it has been the best for her to go, we all are very sad and
    depressed.
    
    
    Tina
11.409KERNEL::PLANTCThu Jun 29 1995 14:016
    
    
    
    Prayers and positive energy for your friend and family
    
    Chris
11.410KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesFri Jun 30 1995 02:127
	Tina,

	Big hugs for you and your friend's family.  So sorry to hear you
	lost her.

	Hugs,
	Lola
11.411My theory about "life" and "death"LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTLife is fun, live it!Fri Jun 30 1995 02:2743
rep .409:

    Death.......
       ....... associations of an abrupt ending, terrible loss,
       desperation, a grief of never before experienced depth and intense.
       Questioning.... reasoning..... "Why this person? Why now?"
       Realization.... "His sudden death does not have any purpose"
       
The people close to the person who died experience shattering emotions that 
influence their life deeply. Because in the common western society death
impersonates the final ending of life. And it is an ending, a final ending.
Of life in the human body we know and are used to associate with the spirit
that used to encorporate it.

My experience over these 34 years that I live, in this human body, on this
planet have taught me, that scientific facts can be interpreted differently.
When a human being dies an energy flow is detected. According to the
"Energieerhaltungssatz" (maybe: energy preservation rule? It is a physics
rule) energy can't get lost, just transformed. My interpretation on "life"
and "death" as we experience it here postulates that our souls encorporate
bodies for a certain period and then go back to their energy state.
These "life cycles" build up experiences and knowledge. When encorporating
a body not the whole energy can be transfered, a big part stays within
"the cosmic stream". It has the memory collection of all "life cycles".
At the time of the "rejoining" with the cosmic stream (what humans use
to call "death" and what actually is only the death of the body) the
knowledge and experience collected within the just ended "life cycle" is
added to the cosmic stream. In this stream all energy entities are joined.

I know, my hypothesis sounds a little "strange" for human understanding,
but..... that is exactly how I feel. And the more my lifecycle goes on
the more facts do I discover which support my theory.

And even when I'm totally wrong and there is nothing after the death of the
body, at least my theory drives me to live my life fully without developing
fear about death.

Dear Tina, don't laugh at the above, maybe it helps you to categorize your
loss and smoothens your intense pain.

;)
Martina-Data
Maybe that's why I feel alienlike.
11.412KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesFri Jun 30 1995 07:4819
	Martina,

	I'm not laughing at all, nor do I find your theory strange, it makes
	perfect sense to me and is very close to how I have always felt.
	Read note 236.0, the second reading, it is essentially very close
	to what you are saying.

	Tina, you may find these readings in 236 give you some comfort also.
	They helped me when I lost my Mother last July, not that anything
	could take away that heart wrenching pain, but they made me feel
	a little better.

	Time for me to go home now.

	Hugs,
	Lola

	
11.413VNABRW::MUDRA_MHo perso la mia animaFri Jun 30 1995 10:264
    Thanks Lola, thanks Martina
    
    
    Tina
11.414NETCAD::WOODFORDIndecision Is Key To FlexibilityFri Jul 14 1995 00:4418
    
    
    
    HEY HEY HEY FOLKS!!!!!
    
    
    
    Ravi, about the poster....I'd be more than happy to do it if
    people would start sending me their pictures for the poster.
    I've only received two so far...yours and Tina's.  Noone else
    has gotten off their butts and sent them in.  
    
    
    HINT  HINT  FOLKS!!!!!  SEND ME THE PICTURES!!!!!  :*)
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.415but it should be gone soon!POOKY::OROURKEheaven help the heartWed Jul 19 1995 21:185
    
    LFT: Having a headache and an ear ache...kinda got a cold coming back
    from vaca...
    
    /jen
11.416NETCAD::WOODFORDIndecision Is Key To FlexibilityThu Jul 20 1995 17:0711
    
    
    
    LFT: Took Matthew to the doctors yesterday.  He's been diagnosed
    with asthma.  Not a fun thing for a ten year old to have. :(
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.417Positive energy for MattewLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTLittle Princess - Rainbow FairyThu Jul 20 1995 17:236
    Poor thing! 
    
    Here are HUGS for Matthew.
    
    ;(
    Martina
11.418with a little care..life can be 'normal'POOKY::OROURKEheaven help the heartThu Jul 20 1995 18:169
    
    LFT:  Terrie's news about Matthew.  But take heart Terrie, my oldest
    brother has had asthma since birth.  He's managed it and mostly conquered 
    it.  He even came in top of his class in the nation for Motorcross
    racing last year.   
    
    And I've had asthma since about second grade too!
    
    /jen
11.419KERNEL::PLANTCIt was fun....Thu Jul 20 1995 18:228
    
    
    
    New reports say that this heatwave has brought out alot of new cases
    of asthma ...especially in the cities.
    
    Chris
    :|
11.420ADCA01::RAVISHANKARNeverWrestleWithAPigFri Jul 21 1995 09:016
    
    LFT: Terrie's news !
    
    LFT: Too many clouds sent my way could've caused the heat-wave in US !
    
    Ravi.
11.421Mr. Data says: We have them back here.LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTLittle Princess - Rainbow FairyFri Jul 21 1995 20:478
    Hello Ravi!
    
       don't worry about the heatwave here. At least here in Mass it is
       cloudy today, too. So maybe you sent the clouds back to us, here???
       Watch your sky, the sun is coming out again soon..... ;)))))
    
    ;)
    Martina-Data
11.422SUBPAC::SADINWe the people?Sat Jul 22 1995 17:5014
11.423LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTLittle Princess - Rainbow FairyMon Jul 24 1995 18:107
    Poor Chico!
    
       Here is a big hug for you.
       And best wishes for poor Amanda. I hope she'll get better soon.
    
    :(
    Martina
11.424Mr. Data says: Lots of inches - lots of fun.LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTLittle Princess - Rainbow FairyMon Jul 24 1995 18:2812
    Actually there was an LFT this morning when I looked in the mirror....
    but I'm not putting it in..... because.............
    
    It was worth it. ;)))))))))
    
    The few additional voluminous inches of my tummy remind me of the 
    phantastic taste of the great Death by Chocolate I ate on Saturday. ;)))))
    
    And of the 5 times I went out for lunch/dinner last week.....
    
    ;)
    Mr. Martina-Data
11.425NETCAD::WOODFORDIndecision Is Key To FlexibilityTue Jul 25 1995 18:3611
    
    
    LFT: I have an upset stomach, and I think I'm spiking a
    pretty high fever at the moment. :(  I need to go home.
    I have SO MUCH work though!!!! :(
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.426KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesTue Jul 25 1995 23:146
Terrie,

Go home and take care of yourself!

Lola    

11.427Go HOME!!!LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTLittle Princess - Rainbow FairyWed Jul 26 1995 17:519
    Hello Terrie,
    
       go home! Work will always wait for you, your health doesn't.
       Let other people take over some of your work and GO HOME!
    
       This is an order, Ensign. ;)
    
    ;)
    Martina-Data, First Officer
11.428SUBPAC::SADINWe the people?Wed Jul 26 1995 20:335
    
    	Go home terrie!
    
    
    chico
11.429NETCAD::WOODFORDCan't come too soon!Wed Jul 26 1995 21:089
    
    
    
    You're a little late Cheeks.  That was yesterday, and I did go home.
    I'm feeling a bit better today, thanks.
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.430SUBPAC::SADINWe the people?Wed Jul 26 1995 21:494
    
    	Oops! %*} that's me....day late and a dollar short...:)
    
    chico (with only the best intentions)
11.431NETCAD::WOODFORDCan't come too soon!Wed Jul 26 1995 21:5211
    
    
    
    I know sweetie, and I thank you for that.
    
    
    
    xOxO
    
    :*)
    
11.432BABAGI::LUSSIERWed Jul 26 1995 22:434
Being behind on mail

Rich
11.433SUBPAC::SADINWe the people?Thu Jul 27 1995 18:566
    
    
    	Join the club Rich!
    
    
    	chico
11.434drat!POOKY::OROURKEheaven help the heartThu Jul 27 1995 18:585
    
    LFT:  Missing a call from Australia cuz I was away from my desk :(
    
    /jen
    
11.435Mr. Data asks: Who was it????LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTLittle Princess - Rainbow FairyFri Jul 28 1995 20:464
    Did Don call?????????
    
    ;)
    Martina-Data_inquisitive
11.436POOKY::OROURKEheaven help the heartFri Jul 28 1995 20:484
    
    LFT: No it was REBEL (Liz Jeffries) call I missed!
    
    /jen
11.437Mr. Data says: Poetry cuts both ways.LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTLittle Princess - Rainbow FairyFri Jul 28 1995 20:5715
    Nothing serious. Only a slight little bit of regret...
    
    LFT:  - poems that are made for music
          - poems that are made to make music for
          - not having heard anything for 3 weeks
          - anxiety and excitement running low and fading away
          - inspiration replaced by emptyness and realization of loss
    
    But luckily there is nothing that can sadden me.
    Only give me inspiration for a emotional intense vigourous poem perhaps. ;)
    And vacation is coming up. ;)))))))))))))
    
    ;)
    Moonsilver
    
11.438NETCAD::WOODFORDIfStressWasFood,I'dBeVERYfat!Fri Jul 28 1995 21:515
    
    
    
    Anybody wanna take me out and get me drunk tonight?
    
11.439POOKY::OROURKEheaven help the heartFri Jul 28 1995 21:524
    
    Only if you reciprocate! :^)
    
    
11.440NETCAD::WOODFORDIfStressWasFood,I'dBeVERYfat!Fri Jul 28 1995 22:185
    
    
    
    Of course I will!
    
11.441SUBPAC::SADINWe the people?Fri Jul 28 1995 23:575
    
    	Hmmm...take Terrie out and get her drunk? Gad, what a rush of lewd
    thoughts...:)
    
    
11.442Mr. Data says: The world is full of bad things.LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTLittle Princess - Rainbow FairySat Jul 29 1995 00:166
    LFTs:  - seeing Terrie unhappy
           - hearing about Jackie's and Chris' being victim of a mean
             burglary attempt
        
    :(
    Martina-Data
11.443KERNEL::PLANTCThe Force will be with you...always.Thu Aug 03 1995 17:3213
    
    
    
    LFT: one of the sportscasters for a local T.V station back home
         was assasinated in front of the station.
    
         the assasin turned himself into police later that day 
         saying that he had a grudge against the station, not against
         the individual. He shot the newscaster in the head twice.
    
    
    Chris
    
11.444SUBPAC::SADINWe the people?Thu Aug 03 1995 17:356
    
    
    	Yowza! Loonies are everywhere......sorry to hear that Chris.
    
    
    chico
11.445KERNEL::PLANTCThe Force will be with you...always.Thu Aug 03 1995 17:3610
    
    
    
    kinda makes you think about life....ya never know when your number
    will come up!
    
    Live life to the fullest!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.4464 days and running out of hope!POOKY::OROURKEheaven help the heartThu Aug 10 1995 19:526
    
    LFT: My luggage still being lost! :(
    
    You just can't replace the memories that are in that case :(
    
    /jen
11.447Where did you loose it?LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTI solemnly announce: Size 8!!!!! ;)Thu Aug 10 1995 20:105
    where have you lost your luggage Jen?
    On your way back from Europe?????
    
    :(
    Martina
11.448KERNEL::PLANTCThe Force will be with you...always.Thu Aug 10 1995 20:228
    
    re -2
    
    I hate it when that happens!!
    
    Chris
    :(
    
11.449I'm bumming...POOKY::OROURKEheaven help the heartThu Aug 10 1995 20:316
    
    I went to Florida on Friday to be in a wedding.  The luggage was lost
    during my return flight on Sunday.  Flew Midway from West Palm,
    switched planes in Raleigh Durham then into Boston.
    
    /jen
11.450CHEFS::WARRENJamazingly different!Thu Aug 10 1995 21:148
    
    re -1
    
    So your luggage will be in London? ;-)
    
    Hope it turns up soon /jen!
    
    Jackie
11.451Hangovers SHRCTR::SIGELFlock of SigelsThu Aug 17 1995 19:351
    
11.452ADCA01::RAVISHANKARNeverWrestleWithAPigMon Aug 21 1995 09:029
    
    LFT: Dumb Brakemen..... Forgot to switch track for a fast (100 Kmph ??)
    	train... result ?!?! This trains runs into a stranded train leaving
    	around 270 dead and close to 400 injured.. *8(((((
    
    LFT: Why was the other train stranded ?!?!? It got so after having run
    	over a cow.... *sigh* some people never learn ! *8(((((((
    
    Ravi.
11.453VNABRW::MUDRA_MI'll be happy in your heartMon Aug 21 1995 18:276
    LFT: Tina's back
    
    
    :-((
    
    Tina
11.454ADCA01::RAVISHANKARNeverWrestleWithAPigTue Aug 22 1995 10:224
    
    LFT: The accident toll is around 450 dead... *8((((
    
    Ravi.
11.455What a strange worldVNABRW::MUDRA_MI'll be happy in your heartTue Aug 22 1995 14:1512
    
    re -1
    
    How awful!!
    
    We had also a train accident in Austria a couple of days before with
    three dead people. The discussion in media was incredible. "How secure
    is going by train", "How could it happen", "Who has to pay", and so on.
    And then you hear the message that in India around 450 people died!!!
    
    
    Tina
11.456ADCA01::RAVISHANKARNeverWrestleWithAPigTue Aug 22 1995 14:186
    
    <---- I guess we've got plenty more people here than in Austria... And
    also Rail is the cheapest mode of transport here... but still ~450
    people is something !!
    
    Ravi.
11.457VNABRW::MUDRA_MI'll be happy in your heartWed Aug 23 1995 16:2510
    
    re -1
    
    You're right, Ravi!
    
    When we see pictures about Indian travellers ... It must be an
    adventure travelling with an Indian train!
    
    
    Tina
11.458ABNAKI::DREYERMore great memoriesThu Aug 24 1995 01:493
	LFT: no notes to read...so quiet in here today.

	Lola
11.459Mr. Data says: Reading enhances your education.LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTTwo Thumbs up for Hu(wo)manityThu Aug 24 1995 19:3225
    Hello Lola!
    
       here is something to read for you. ;)
    
    LFT and MFT:
        
    The chaos theory says:
       When an inevitably fixed event is coming up, the more you approach
       the event timewise the higher the quantum fluctuation.
    
    I am the perfect example for that:
       The further I approach the time of my plane take-off, the more pops
       up suddenly.
    
    MFT:  - 5 more days until take-off
          - talking to BenJ on the phone yesterday
          - having an offer for a less expensive ticket to Paris
          - perhaps visiting BenJ in Paris
    
    ;)
    Martina-Data
    Lt. Cmdr., First Officer and MSQF
    USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D
    United Federation of Planets
        
11.460SUBPAC::SADINWe the people?Thu Aug 24 1995 20:597
    
    
    	LFT
    
    	sore throat, aching muscles. This can't be a good sign...
    
    chico
11.461here...have some Orange Juice!POOKY::OROURKEheaven help the heartThu Aug 24 1995 21:279
    
    RE: -1
    
    It is probably the 'go-like-crazy-do-too-much-get-no-rest-like-jen'
    syndrome!
    
    Try to slow down and get better soon!
    
    /jen
11.462SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Fri Aug 25 1995 03:2811
    
    	thanks darlin'!
    
    	actually tho', I went out for a 3 mile run at lunch. %*} didn't
    feel too good after that....:*P
    
    
    guess I'm not going to run this one off.
    
    
    chico
11.463But I'm leaving in 10 days and haven't begun...ABNAKI::DREYERMore great memoriesFri Aug 25 1995 05:1914
	Martina,

	There are not many events that I can imagine being inevitably fixed,
	not to a precise time anyway.  I agree more with the statement
	"the only thing constant in this world is change".  I know what
	you mean though, when it comes time to go you suddenly remember more
	and more that you were planning on doing, or remember things you
	want to do that you should have planned.  This is why I take two
	weeks or more to write my list of things to take and things to do
	before leaving the house whenever I go on vacation.  I don't usually
	forget anything!

	Lola
11.464Mr. Data counts them down: FOURLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTTwo Thumbs up for Hu(wo)manityFri Aug 25 1995 22:428
    "But I'm leaving in 10 days and haven't begun..."
    
    That's what I mean: I'm leaving in 4 days and haven't begun.
    The event of the plane taking off next Tuesday is inevitable.
    It either goes with or without me. And I'd better pay attention that
    I will be on that plane..... ;)
    
    Mr. Data
11.465ABNAKI::DREYERMore great memoriesSat Aug 26 1995 02:094
	I'm sure you wouldn't miss that palne for anything, Martina!  
	You will inevitably be on that plane!!!!

	Lola
11.466jen's travel experience! :)POOKY::OROURKEheaven help the heartSat Aug 26 1995 02:3914
    
    RE: don't worry Martina and Lola.  Listen to the words of this
    'traveller'.   YOU MUST HAVE - Your ID, your credit cards, your
    medications, your address/contact list, and your tickets..   
    
    Everything else is a bonus.  You can live without it or borrow it or
    replace it.  
    
    No matter HOW much time you have to get ready the seeming number of
    things you need to do will expand to fit (actually exceed) the time!
    
    So.........GO............and ENJOY! :)
    
    /jen
11.467NETCAD::WOODFORDOhNO! Not the LAN Mr. Bill!Mon Aug 28 1995 23:2312
    
    
    LFT:  The vacation had to come to an end, and I am back at work. :(
    
    
    
    BUT!!  What an awesome vacation!!!!!!!!! :*)
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.468LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTTwo Thumbs up for Hu(wo)manityTue Aug 29 1995 00:144
    Hey Terrie,,, tell us about your *awesome* vacation!!!
    
    ;)
    Martina
11.469NETCAD::WOODFORDOhNO! Not the LAN Mr. Bill!Tue Aug 29 1995 00:2112
    
    
    SNARF!  :*)
    
    
    I will Martina!  Shall we plan a Kimball's run this week
    so I can tell and show everyone?  :*)
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.470exABNAKI::DREYERMore great memoriesTue Aug 29 1995 00:3617
Jen,

I always make sure all my necessities are in my carry on...meds, make-up,
change of clothes, bathing suit and cover-up/robe, along with my camera
of course!  But you're right, the list of things to do always expands exactly
until it's time to leave, then it's always a mad dash at the end!  This trip
will be really laid back, not a whole lot to pace, jeans, jeans, t-shirts
shorts and sweats!    Funny though, it's like kitchen cabinets.  I thought I
had so much storage space in this house (and I do), but in 4 short years my
possessions have expanded to entirely fill them and then some!

Terrie,

Gals to hear your vacation was awesome, please tell us about it here too!

Lola

11.471NETCAD::WOODFORDOhNO! Not the LAN Mr. Bill!Tue Aug 29 1995 00:3915
    
    
    
    Well, we went everywhere, did everything, brought back
    tons of cool stuff, lost 6 pounds, and gained back part
    of my sanity! :*)
    
    
    Seriously, this week is gonna be very very busy, but I will
    try to post parts of the details in MFT throughout the week
    as I have time.
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.472Mr. Data says: No Kimballs this week :(LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTTwo Thumbs up for Hu(wo)manityTue Aug 29 1995 20:516
    LFT: Terrie, I won't be able to make it to Kimball's this week. :(
    
         More details in MFT topic.
    
    ;)
    Martina-Data
11.473SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Thu Aug 31 1995 17:518
    
    
    	Hi terrie!
    
    	
    glad to see you back!
    
    cheeks
11.474NETCAD::WOODFORDOhNO! Not the LAN Mr. Bill!Thu Aug 31 1995 18:0111
    
    
    Is that a LFT Chico????  :*)
    
    
    LFT:  Start school a week from monday.  I need more time off...
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.475SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Thu Aug 31 1995 19:507
    
    	of course that's not an LFT! silly gurl...
    
    
    :)
    
    
11.476DASHER::RALSTONIdontlikeitsojuststopit!!Fri Sep 01 1995 18:365
    LFT: Not being able to load Win95 on my PC because I can't figure out
         how to disable the virus protection. Have already spent about 4 hours
         trying.  :(
    
    ...Tom
11.477IROCZ::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Wed Sep 06 1995 21:546
>    LFT: Not being able to load Win95 on my PC because I can't figure out
>         how to disable the virus protection. Have already spent about 4 hours
>         trying.  :(

  Sort of like rejecting a transplanted organ, isn't it? No anti-rejection 
drugs for computers?
11.478SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Sun Sep 10 1995 16:1212
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	having to get up this morning after two glasses of champagne, three
    Kahlua Sombreros, and going to bed at 12:30am (woke up at 4:45am). Wake
    me when it's over.....
    
    
    chico (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....)
    
    
11.479DASHER::RALSTONIdontlikeitsojuststopit!!Fri Sep 15 1995 18:394
    LFT: This is the last night that my son will be home from college. I
         won't see him again until x-mas. I miss him already.  :(
    
    ...Tom
11.480VNABRW::MUDRA_MI'll be happy in your heartMon Sep 18 1995 12:296
    re -1
    
    I'm sorry Tom!! But in only three months it's already X-mas!!!
    
    
    Tina
11.481SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Mon Sep 18 1995 15:558
    
    	LFT:
    
    	the big skunk I smooshed on the drive home last night. "stink"
    doesn't even cover it......{gag}
    
    
    chico
11.482NETCAD::WOODFORDFoundThatBoxOfPitsYouLost...Mon Sep 18 1995 18:1315
    
    
    LFT:  Drove to Maine at 10:00pm last night to be with a friend 
    who's daughter is in the hospital with spinal meningitis(sp?) and
    pneumonia.  She is two years old and in very serious condition. :(
    Stayed at the hospital with her till 4:00am, showered and changed,
    and drove here from there with no sleep.  
    
       Prayers to Emily..... :(
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
    
11.483SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Mon Sep 18 1995 22:449
    
    
    	spinal meningitis is an infection of the lining (meningis) around the 
    spinal column...yes, it's very serious. My prayers to your friends and
    her daughter....
    
    
    chico
     
11.484KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesTue Sep 19 1995 02:145
	LFT: hearing about Terrie's friend's daughter.  My prayers and     
	     positive energy going out to her and her family.  Very sad,
	     I hope they can cure her.

	Lola
11.485SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Tue Sep 19 1995 04:259
    
    	LFT:
    
    	finding out I'm changing supervisors and management again! Makes it
    tough to get a good review when you're always working for somebody
    new....:(
    
    
    chico
11.486SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Mon Sep 25 1995 20:3214
    
    	LFT:
    
    	that I'm putting in another LFT! :*\
    
    	LFT2:
    
    	I'm probably going to have to cancel my going to NH to play
    paintball due to lack of funds. :*( I've been planning this for two
    months! Too much happened in september and we've been caught short.
    ack.
    
    
    chico
11.487POWDML::VENTURABad spellers of the world, UNTIE!!Tue Sep 26 1995 00:175
    LFT:
    
    12.839!!!
    
    H
11.488SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Tue Sep 26 1995 00:256
    
    	
    yeah, I will miss my well endowed friend from West Bridgewater.....;*)
    
    
    
11.489POWDML::VENTURABad spellers of the world, UNTIE!!Wed Sep 27 1995 01:023
    LFT: My time being wasted.. TWICE!!
    
    H
11.490SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Wed Sep 27 1995 15:2915
11.491CHEFS::WARRENJyour wish is my command, sireWed Sep 27 1995 17:095
    re -1   When I read that it really brings home that I'm not switched on
            by mathematical equations!
    
    
    Jackie
11.492KERNEL::PLANTCNever tell me the odds!Thu Sep 28 1995 13:178
    
    
    
    Chris throws away his mathematician's outfit! :))))))
    
    Chris
    :)
    
11.493:-))CHEFS::WARRENJyour wish is my command, sireThu Sep 28 1995 13:347
    re -1
    
    Put some clothes back on - this is a family conference!
    
    ;-)
    
    Jackie
11.494ADCA01::RAVISHANKARIndecisionIsTheKeyToFlexibilityThu Sep 28 1995 15:289
11.495Best of luck, Terrie!!KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesSat Sep 30 1995 05:045
LFT:  Terrie leaving us, I'm really going to miss seeing your happy face
      around here.  I was hoping we'd have the chance to work *together* some 
      day.

	Lola
11.496SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Sun Oct 01 1995 15:295
    
    	don't worry Ravi...that wasn't the answer...:*)
    
    
    	chico
11.497Perhaps this should be in "you know its Monday.."CHEFS::WARRENJyour wish is my command, sireMon Oct 02 1995 15:0520
    LFT: Feeling silly!
    
    Today, Im working from home.  Here I use a two-way plug in the socket for 
    the modem and terminal, alas this morining the terminal would not work.  
    So, I fiddled around with the plugs and came to the conclusion it must
    be the fuse.
    
    Off I trudged to a nearby DIY store, spent 15 mins looking for the
    fuses, found the ones I needed and returned home with my purchase.  I
    popped the new fuse in the plug and triumphantly tried it out.
    
    Aaagh! It didn't work.  Seeking inspiration, I moved the terminal
    slightly..and realised the lead wasn't plugged into the back of the
    terminal!!!!!
    
    Next time, I'll check that first!
    
    *sigh*
          
    Jackie 
11.498SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Mon Oct 02 1995 15:2311
    
    
    
    	re -1
    
    	hehehehehe....! :) I've learned from experience to check ALL cables
    first. Ask any support person what's the first thing they ask someone
    who calls with a computer that won't work ("is it plugged in?"). ;*)
    
    
    	chico
11.499KERNEL::PLANTCNever tell me the odds!Mon Oct 02 1995 15:4910
    
    
    re -2
    
    
    I won't laugh....definitely not!
    
    
    Chris
    :)
11.500MPGS::REITHMon Oct 02 1995 15:513
<snarf>

LFT: Not having Terrie to tell donut stories to...
11.501KERNEL::PLANTCNever tell me the odds!Mon Oct 02 1995 16:039
    
    
    
    CM..I see there is an entirely new crew who don't know anything
    about your doughnuts!! You could post your instructions here
    again!! :))))
    
    Chris
    :)
11.502MPGS::REITHMon Oct 02 1995 16:253
I will as soon as I find where they are. I might just have to recreate it 8^)

CM
11.503NETCAD::WOODFORDAndMilesToGoBeforeISleep.Mon Oct 02 1995 16:4012
    
    
    
    LFT:  Not being able to find the Donut story. :(  I extracted it, but I
    must have deleted it when I cleaned out my account a few weeks ago.
    :(((
    
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
11.504SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Tue Oct 03 1995 00:3511
11.505KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesTue Oct 03 1995 00:474
	LFT: Chico's LFT...that is a bummer.  Hope you can still manage it.
	     Doesn't seem quite fair if you're already in process...

	Lola
11.506SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Tue Oct 03 1995 01:388
    
    	re: -1
    
    	thanks lola. I don't have much choice now since I've already paid
    for it...just have to take my lumps....
    
    
    chico
11.507Could be wrong, but.....CHEFS::WARRENJyour wish is my command, sireTue Oct 03 1995 12:217
    
    Chico,
    
    Are you sure?  I thought payment of college fees was at CC Managers
    discretion rather than an overall company policy.???
    
    Jackie
11.508SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Tue Oct 03 1995 15:2712
    
    
    	Hi Jackie,
    
    	My wife called the reimbursement center yesterday and they said
    they've changed their policies since I took my last class. They will no
    longer cover any fees.....my manager had signed off on the paperwork
    already and I had put the fees on there (that's why I assumed they'd be
    covered just like the last time). I'm not a happy camper....
    
    
    	chico
11.509Just sent you mail. Hope it helps!CHEFS::WARRENJyour wish is my command, sireTue Oct 03 1995 15:504
    
    re -1  Sorry to hear that.  I can understand your feelings.
    
    Jackie
11.510KERNEL::PLANTCNever tell me the odds!Tue Oct 03 1995 16:357
    
    
    
    if the manager signed off on it..then it should be covered!!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.511U.S. policies and procedures SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Tue Oct 03 1995 18:22682
From:	GRIMLY::PPP_SRV "03-Oct-1995 0842 -0400"  3-OCT-1995 08:43:31.99
To:	SUBFIZ::SADIN
CC:	
Subj:	Personnel Policies and Procedures - 413.TXT - VTX Document

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SCOPE: U.S.

PHILOSOPHY:

Digital is committed to continuous learning and development for all
employees in order to maintain a competitive advantage in the
marketplace.  Therefore, Digital encourages and supports
educational and training assistance to ensure that employees have
the skills required for the Company's success.  Digital's External
Educational Assistance (EEA) program is an investment that:

     - maximizes productivity and job satisfaction;
     - reduces the potential for skills obsolescence; and
     - assists in fostering a healthy employee relations
       environment.

External Educational Assistance is a Company-sponsored program that
assists employees in taking approved courses, degree programs, and
educational seminars and conferences that are not offered
internally at Digital.  A written development plan, tied to
Digital's business goals, is a prerequisite to an employee
requesting External Educational Assistance funds.

POLICY:

Digital's goal is to develop the types of skills, abilities and
knowledge that will enhance employees' contributions to the
Company.  External Educational Assistance at Digital is designed to
assist employees in meeting these objectives through their
completion of courses, seminars, conferences and programs that are
sponsored by organizations other than Digital.  External
Educational Assistance supports courses, seminars, conferences and
programs that are identified in an employee's development plan and
that meet: 1) short-term employee development goals that focus on




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current job assignments; or 2) long-term learning objectives that
meet a Digital business requirement.

PRACTICES:

MANAGER RESPONSIBILITIES

  A manager is responsible for:

    -    evaluating and balancing the goals of the Company and the
         aspirations of her/his employees;

    -    appropriately managing and allocating funding for External
         Educational Assistance for her/his employees;

|   -    when approving an employee's request for external
|        educational assistance on the application, the manager is
|        accountable for determining the Job Required or Career
|        Related status of the course, seminar or conference.

     -   guaranteeing that employees have a written development
         plan that ties External Educational Assistance to:
         identified current organizational or individual business
         goals; or the acquisition of skills, knowledge or
         competencies that a business unit or a functional manager
         has confirmed are necessary for future business success;

     -   ensuring that an employee's formalized development plan
         balances both business and individual goals;

     -   accurately tracking employees' year-to-date External
         Educational Assistance spending;





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     -   guaranteeing that all outstanding costs, grades and
         procedures are closed within 60 days of completion; and

| The manager is responsible for securing the next level of
| management signature if his/hers is not sufficient for each course
| being requested per the signature authorization files.

  When approving an employee's request for External Educational
  Assistance, the manager is accountable for this financial
  investment by the Company.  A manager must take into account
  business goals, employee goals and issues of affordability when
  evaluating a request for External Educational Assistance.

  When an employee leaves Digital, the manager is responsible for
  ensuring that all outstanding EEA payments are clearly identified
  on the "Termination/Retirement Information Form."

EMPLOYEE RESPONSIBILITIES

  An employee needs to work with her/his manager to:

      - identify a course, seminar, conference or program's
        relationship to current or future business goals and the
        employee's approved development plan;

      - fill out the appropriate administrative forms prior to
        beginning a course, seminar, conference or program; and

      - complete all procedural requirements (including submitting
        final grades and receipts) within 60 days of completion.

|     - if an employee voluntarily resigns or is terminated by the
|       company for any reason other than Transition and the course
|       is Career Related, the employee has the responsibility to




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|       reimburse the company for money already paid on their
|       behalf for a course, seminar or conference that has not
|       been completed.
|
|       See $ VTX LEARNING for procedural requirements

APPROVAL OF COURSES, SEMINARS, CONFERENCES AND NON-CREDIT COURSES

  An employee must meet all applicable eligibility requirements noted
  in the "External Educational Assistance Categories" section of this
  policy to receive External Educational Assistance.  The
  determination of whether a course, seminar or conference is Job
  Required or Career Related, and the identification of the
  appropriate tax status, is the responsibility of the employee's
  manager.

  For an employee to be eligible to receive External Educational
  Assistance funds to participate in a seminar, conference or other
  non-credit course, the learning experience must be Job Required (as
  defined in the "External Educational Assistance Categories" section
  of this policy).  External Educational Assistance funds cover only
  seminars, conferences and other non-credit courses that are
  primarily a learning experience for an employee.  When an
  employee's primary responsibility for attending a seminar or
  conference is to represent Digital, External Educational Assistance
  funds should not be used for this purpose.  When Digital offers an
  internal education or training program that is substantially
  similar in content, accessibility and cost to an external
  non-credit course, seminar or conference, employees must enroll in
  the Digital program.

  Some examples of why External Educational Assistance may not be
  approved are: no substantial current or future business need has
  been identified; issues of affordability; the employee does not




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  have a current development plan; final settlement is still pending
  60 days after the completion of a course, seminar, conference or
  program; or the employee does not meet other eligibility
  requirements noted in this policy.

  If business requirements, the employee's job or the employee's
  manager change, this could affect the previous approval of a
  course, seminar, conference or degree program.  In these instances,
  managers would be expected to evaluate educational needs as noted
  in the "Manager Responsibilities" section of this policy.

EXTERNAL EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE CATEGORIES

  Digital provides eligible employees with two types of External
  Educational Assistance: Job Required and Career Related.  The need
  to identify these two types of External Educational Assistance is
  due to different eligibility requirements.  It is important to note
  that the required tax status determination, as defined by the IRS,
  is not the same as the determination whether a course, seminar, or
  conference is Job Required or Career Related, as defined by Digital
  (see the "Tax Implications" section of this policy for further
  details).

Job Required:

  Job Required courses, seminars and conferences are defined as
  providing skills, abilities and knowledge that are necessary for an
  employee's current area of responsibility.  Job Required courses
  are normally taken during working hours and are tied to a written
  development plan.  The exception is if a course is only offered in
  the evening.  The determination of whether a course, seminar or
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  Eligibility:  All Regular Active (R01-R40) and Regular On-Call
  (O00) Digital employees are eligible to apply for Job Required
  External Educational Assistance.

Career Related:

  Courses or programs that are defined as Career Related are to
  prepare the employee for a Digital job or career opportunity and
  must be:

  - tied to a written development plan that is approved by the
    employee's manager;

  - taken at an accredited college or university with academic
    credit(s) being received by the employee (unless audit status
    is approved by the manager; see "Auditing A Course"); and

  - related to a current or future occupational Company need that
    is substantial enough to warrant the investment by Digital.


  Eligibility:  All Regular Active (R20-R40) Digital employees who
  have a current performance/salary rating of 1, 2, or 3 are eligible
  to apply for Career Related External Educational Assistance.

PAYMENT, FINAL SETTLEMENT AND TAX IMPLICATIONS

Payment:

| Payment is requested by an employee for an approved external
| assistance course, seminar, conference or program by completing the
| Application for External Educational Assistance which must be
| submitted prior to the start date.  Payments for approved




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| non-taxable seminars, conferences and courses are made by the
| Digital authorized vendor directly to the school or institution.
| (see $ VTX LEARNING for instructions.)  Payments for taxable
| seminars, conferences and courses are made to employees prior to
| the course, seminar or conference beginning.

  Upon termination, if an employee has an outstanding EEA advance and
  has not started the course, seminar or conference, she/he is
  expected to reimburse Digital for this cost (see Personnel Policy
  6.01 Termination).


  Level of financial support for approved courses:  Digital will
  support 100% of normal tuition costs.  Registration, lab and book
  fees are also covered at 100%, and are reimbursed through the
| Digital authorized vendor (see $ VTX LEARNING for procedure and
  costs covered). External Educational Assistance does not cover
  application fees, entrance exams, entrance exam preparatory
  courses, graduation fees or other costs that are not mandated to
  participate in a course, seminar or conference (e.g., health
  insurance, optional course materials and site fees).  For Job
  Required courses, seminars and conferences, reasonable travel
  expenses should be considered (see Personnel Policy 5.11 Business
  Expense).


Final Settlement:

| Within 60 days after successfully completing a course, seminar or
| conference, the employee must submit a grade or other evidence of
| satisfactory completion (certificate, attendance letter, etc.) to
| his/her manager and the Digital authorized vendor. For taxable
| courses, the employee must also submit an original itemized receipt




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| for tuition and other reimbursable expenses from the educational
| institution.

| Employees are responsible for reimbursing Digital in full and
| within 60 days for any course receiving an "unsatisfactory" (as
| defined by the granting institution), "incomplete" or "withdrawal"
| grade status.   Employees are expected to reimburse Digital through
| the Digital authorized vendor (see $ VTX LEARNING for procedures).

Tax Implications:

  Under certain circumstances Digital's Educational Assistance
  payments will be taxable to employees.  In such cases, Digital is
  obligated by law to report income and withhold taxes. Therefore,
  managers have the following responsibilities:

     1. Answer the taxability questions in the Tax Status section
        of the Application for External Educational Assistance.

     2. Track all taxable courses on a calendar year basis by
        completing and retaining a copy of the Application for
        External Educational Assistance.

  The determination of taxability is distinct from the policy
  determination of Job Required or Career Related.  Taxability is
  determined from two questions that appear in the Tax Status section
  of the Application for External Educational Assistance.  If either
  question is answered "yes," then the course is a taxable course.

  Determination of Taxability:  The following information is designed
  to help managers and employees determine whether a course is
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  A course is taxable if either of the following (A or B) is answered
  "yes":

   A. Is this course required to meet the minimum educational
      requirements of the employee's current job?

  This means that if the employee accepted a job that had a minimal
  educational requirement (e.g., High School Diploma, Bachelors
  Degree) that the employee had not met, but had agreed to pursue,
  the course taken would be taxable.

  For example, a person is hired to fill an accounting position which
  requires a degree in accounting.  This person is currently taking
  courses to complete her/his degree and was hired with this in
  consideration.  These courses are needed in order for the
  individual to meet the minimum educational requirements for the
  position, and, therefore, the reimbursements for these courses are
  taxable.

  If an employee met the minimum educational requirements when she/he
  started the current job, but the educational requirements later
  changed and the employee needed to take courses to meet the new
  requirements, those courses would not be taxable.

   B.  Does this course or degree program prepare the employee for a
       position within a new trade or business?

  In general, a course or degree program which prepares an individual
  for a new trade, business or career will be taxable.  The course or
  degree program is taxable even if the employee has no intention of
  pursuing the new career either inside or outside Digital.  On the
  other hand, if the education merely enables the employee to change
  duties or obtain a promotion within the same field of work or




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  career without qualifying the employee for a new trade, business or
  career, the education will not be taxable.  In general, engineering
  is a trade or business, so an employee with an engineering degree
  working as an engineer will not be taxed on courses which maintain
  or improve his/her present skills.  On the other hand, a technician
  without an engineering degree generally would be taxed on
  engineering courses.

  Additional examples: A secretary who needs to improve writing
  skills takes a professional communications course at a local
  university.  This course would enhance secretarial skills, but
  would not qualify the individual for a new career, trade or
  business.  Question B would be answered "no." Someone who
  progresses from a personnel assistant to a personnel consultant and
  finally to a personnel manager does not change her/his trade or
  business, and again question B would be answered "no."

  The new trade or business test is difficult to apply to individuals
  pursuing an M.B.A. degree.  An M.B.A. degree may not qualify an
  individual for a new profession, but an inquiry must still be made
  as to whether the individual will be qualified to perform new
  duties which are not within the same general type of work as are
  involved in her/his present employment.  It is important to look at
  each course individually and not at the degree program as a whole
  when making the evaluation.  An individual pursuing a finance
  career is probably not qualifying for a new trade or business when
  she/he takes courses in finance.  However, this individual may
  qualify for a new trade or business if she/he takes courses in
  management or in some other field of concentration within an M.B.A.
  program which are not directly related to her/his current general
  duties.  Training Expense Data:  Managers must track training
  expense data so that employees may take full advantage of Section
  127.

| When in effect, IRS Code Section 127 excludes from taxable income




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| subject to withholding and reporting up to $5250 per year per
| employee of otherwise "taxable" educational assistance benefits, if
| certain requirements are met.

  When Section 127 is not in effect, managers must continue to track
  the training expense data because Congress might reinstate the
  section retroactively.  Accurate records are essential to ensure
  correct tax treatment of all course payments during a year in which
  Section 127 is reinstated.  Consult with Corporate Tax regarding
  the current status of Section 127.


DEGREE PROGRAMS

  A manager must first determine if a degree program meets Digital's
  Career Related criteria (see External Educational Assistance
  Categories).  If the degree program is approved, all courses
  contributing to the degree will be funded by Digital.  Whenever
  possible, elective courses should simultaneously meet a degree
  requirement and have value to Digital.

  It is important to note that each course within an approved degree
  program must be identified as either Job Required or Career
  Related.

| Applications for External Educational Assistance must be completed
| prior to each term or semester in a Degree program.

AUDITING A COURSE

  Digital supports an employee auditing a course (as opposed to
  taking a course for academic credit) only when such a course is Job
  Required.  Audited courses must be taken at an accredited college




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  or university or at media-based programs offered at various Digital
  locations.  At the end of a course, an employee must submit to
| her/his manager and the Digital authorized vendor, a confirmation
  that she/he was enrolled and participated in the course.

GRADES

  Employees registered for courses taken at colleges and other
  institutions must obtain a grade that the granting institution
  defines as satisfactorily completing a course for credit.  This
| grade must be submitted to the employee's manager and the Digital
| authorized vendor no later than 60 days following the completion of
  the course along with all necessary documentation to ensure final
  settlement.

NUMBER OF COURSES

  There is no specified number of courses that an employee may take
  simultaneously.  The manager and employee need to determine what is
  reasonable and necessary so that the employee can remain maximally
  productive in her/his current job.  As a general guideline, an
  employee should not take more than two courses simultaneously.
  However, a manager must take into account business goals, employee
  goals, and issues of affordability when evaluating a request for
  External Educational Assistance.  The frequency and number of
  courses may vary depending on:

   - the employee's job, development needs, and the appropriateness
     of specific courses for meeting those needs.





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   - the employee who is in a field where functional or technical
     knowledge changes rapidly, and Digital requires such
     knowledge.

   - the need to fill critical work force skills.


CREDIT BY EXAMINATION

  Digital will support the costs for challenge or equivalency
  examinations for courses normally taken as part of an approved
  degree program at an accredited institution.  These examinations
  include the College Level Examination Program (CLEP), as well as
  other examinations used by accredited institutions.

  Digital supports employees who want to obtain a high school
  equivalency diploma through programs and/or required examinations
  that are approved by the Department of Education of the state in
  which the exam is given.

  The procedure for receiving External Educational Assistance for
  Credit By Examination is the same as for any other approved course.
  A grade or test score does not have to be submitted, but the
  granting institution must certify that the examination has been
  completed by the employee.

COURSE QUALITY

  Digital is a corporation comprised of individuals who have diverse
  educational and training needs and goals.  As a result, the types
  of education and training programs for which employees request
  External Educational Assistance can vary. Employees and their
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  that will be used prior to the start of a course, seminar,
  conference or program.  Occasionally, employees may find that they
  are being exposed to materials or exercises that they believe are
  offensive to them.  In such cases, employees should immediately
  notify their manager and Personnel to determine the course of
  action.

  Digital will only support university and college level courses that
  meet certain accreditation standards.  In the United States,
  courses (including correspondence courses) given by a college,
  university, trade or technical school must be accredited in order
  for an employee to receive External Educational Assistance.

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11.512from my read of this, I should have been covered.SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Tue Oct 03 1995 18:2515
    
    
>  Level of financial support for approved courses:  Digital will
>  support 100% of normal tuition costs.  Registration, lab and book
>  fees are also covered at 100%, and are reimbursed through the
>| Digital authorized vendor (see $ VTX LEARNING for procedure and
>  costs covered). External Educational Assistance does not cover
>  application fees, entrance exams, entrance exam preparatory
>  courses, graduation fees or other costs that are not mandated to
>  participate in a course, seminar or conference (e.g., health
>  insurance, optional course materials and site fees).  For Job
> Required courses, seminars and conferences, reasonable travel
>  expenses should be considered (see Personnel Policy 5.11 Business
>  Expense).
    
11.513MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Tue Oct 03 1995 18:318
"should have been"??

I thought you were currently enrolled? Yes, it reads that lab fees are included in the
coverage. Perhaps this highlighted copy should be forwarded with the request?

(You going for a pyro license too? 8^)

CM
11.514NAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Tue Oct 03 1995 19:028
    
    Chico, if you were currently enrolled in a Degree program with an IDP 
    written, you should be able to collect.
    
    <-- Pyro License! Good one CM
    
    A
    
11.515MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Tue Oct 03 1995 19:033
Actually, I thought I had seen him in one of my other files I haunt...

CM
11.516SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Tue Oct 03 1995 19:1018
    
    
    	re: pyro license
    
    	I'd been thinking about it, but I don't have the time now. I want
    to take some chem classes first.
    
    	re: coverage
    
    	I'm not enrolled in a degree program, just taking one class each
    semester. I'm going to enroll in an electronics degree program at the
    college I'm attending just to have a degree program on record.
    
    	The nasty thing is, they covered all fees/tuition/book costs for my
    last class! Things have just changed for this one....I paid for it out
    of my own pocket and then sent all the paperwork/receipts to EEA.
    
    	jim
11.517more infoSUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Tue Oct 03 1995 19:10407
      DIGITAL EXTERNAL EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE PROCEDURES FOR EMPLOYEES
                             (U.S. ONLY)

Effective 31-July-1995

The following procedures must be followed in regard to all external educational
assistance activities (courses, seminars, and conferences), and textbooks. If 
you have inquiries after reviewing all the following procedures, please contact
the External Educational Assistance Program Office at 1-800-626-1810.

Digital is committed to continuous learning and development for all employees 
in order to maintain a competitive advantage in the marketplace.  Digital 
External Educational Assistance Program is designed to financially assist 
eligible employees in meeting educational objectives through courses, seminars,
conferences and programs not available internally. (Refer to VTX ORANGEBOOK, 
policy 4.13)

1.  ELIGIBILITY

For employee eligibility requirements for external educational assistance,
access Digital Human Resource Policies and Procedures manual, section 4.13. on 
VTX ORANGEBOOK.

2.  APPLICATIONS/FORMS

The External Educational Assistance Application Form and the Textbook 
Reimbursement Form are available upon request from:

  - Digital External Educational Assistance Program Office at 1-800-626-1810,
  - VTX LEARNING, or
  - VTX PI_US.

3.  APPLICATION PROCESS

Employee: 
 Submits a completed application to their manager for approval.

Manager:  
 Determines if employee's request is consistent with employee's job development
 plan.

 If employee is eligible, determines the status of the educational activity as 
 job-required or career-related.  Has responsibility for answering tax 
 questions, in the tax status section, as required by the IRS. (Refer to 
 Policies and Procedures, Section 4.13 on VTX ORANGEBOOK).

 If approving, signs and dates the application.

Employee:  
 Sends (via U.S. Mail) the approved application for processing, to:
      Digital External Educational Assistance Program Office
      P.O. Box 33966
      Detroit, MI 48232

4.  APPLICATION VERIFICATION PROCESS

Digital External Educational Assistance Program Office:
 Verifies the application against Digital eligibility requirements and enters 
 the verified application into the Program Office employee database.

 Defers any incomplete application and will contact employee for any missing 
 information.

 Rejects employee's application if it does not meet Digital policy criteria and
 will send a letter, copying the manager, stating why the application was not 
 processed.

5.  CONFIRMATION/NOTIFICATION/PAYMENT PROCESS

Courses, seminars, conferences, textbooks and associated costs covered by the 
External Educational Assistance Policy (ORANGEBOOK 4.13), may or may not be 
taxable according to tax regulations. The External Educational Assistance 
process for confirmation, notification and payment will vary accordingly.

5a. IF COURSES, SEMINARS AND CONFERENCES AND ASSOCIATED COSTS ARE NON-TAXABLE

   - Digital External Educational Assistance Program Office sends a Tuition 
     Voucher and Textbook Reimbursement Form to the employee.

   - The employee gives the Tuition Voucher to the institution/school when 
     registering for course/seminar or conference. (The voucher provides 
     billing instructions, employee name, Badge ID, degree, major, courses
     approved for that term and the authorized tuition amount.)

   - The institution/school submits the tuition invoice to the Digital External
     Educational Assistance Program Office.

   - The employee completes Textbook Reimbursement Form(s) for payment, 
     attaches original receipt(s) and submits them to Digital External
     Educational Assistance Program Office for reimbursement.

   - Digital External Educational Assistance Program Office issues and sends 
     payments to the institution/school for tuition and to the employee for 
     textbook reimbursement.

5b. IF COURSES, SEMINARS AND CONFERENCES AND ASSOCIATED COSTS ARE TAXABLE

   - Digital External Educational Assistance Program Office will send a 
     confirmation letter and a Textbook Reimbursement Form to the employee.

   - Digital Payroll will issue a payment for the net tuition amount, less
     tax withholdings, to the employee.

   - Employee completes the Textbook Reimbursement Form(s) for payment, 
     attaches original receipt(s), and submits the completed form and 
     receipt(s) to the Digital External Educational Assistance Program Office. 
     (Textbooks are also considered taxable, if the course is taxable.)

   - Digital Payroll will issue a payment for the net amount, less tax 
     withholdings, to the employee.

6.  RECORD CLOSURE PROCESS

Employee must submit proof of satisfactory completion to Digital External 
Educational Assistance Program Office and to their manager within 60 days of 
completion.  For courses, grade submission constitutes proof of satisfactory 
completion.  For seminars and conferences a copy of the certificate (or proof 
of attendance) you receive upon completion is required.

Digital External Educational Assistance Program Office enters grades into the 
employee application database, closes record, and retains information in the 
database.

Employee may submit another application and be approved for the next subsequent 
term or course before grades for the current course or term are due.  However,
additional courses, seminars or conferences will not be approved until all 
previous outstanding records are closed.

7.  WHEN AN EMPLOYEE DOES NOT COMPLETE A COURSE, SEMINAR OR CONFERENCE OR 
    DROPS OUT

Employee submits original grade(s) or withdrawal slip(s) to Digital External 
Educational Assistance Program Office.  Digital External Educational Assistance
enters grades into the employee database and sends a letter to the employee and
manager requesting repayment for appropriate amount.

For payments which were originally TAXED, the employee must direct repayment 
for the net amount to 

     Digital Payroll PKO3-1 
     129 Parker St. 
     Maynard, MA 01754

which will notify Digital External Educational Assistance Program Office.

For payments which were NOT TAXED originally, employee must direct repayment to 
   
     Digital External Educational Assistance Program Office
     P.O. Box 33966 
     Detroit, MI 48232

If an employee does not complete a course or seminar due to business reasons, 
employees must submit a justification letter from their manager.
  
If repayment or a justification from management is not received within 60 days 
of course completion, no further approvals are processed.  When repayment is 
received, processing is resumed for future applications.

External Educational Assistance Application	d i g i t a l

 EMPLOYEE INFORMATION (please print)                     Social
 Name:                              Badge#               Security#
 Home Address                                            Home Ph#
 Business Address                                        Bus Ph#
 Cost Center                        Internal Mailstop
 ===========================================================================
 DEVELOPMENT PLAN INFORMATION (to be completed by Manager):

 Is there an approved written development plan for this employee? __yes __no
 ===========================================================================
 DEGREE/INSTITUTION/PROGRAM/SEMINAR/CONFERENCE DATA:
 Check one: __Seminar/Conference__2 yr Degree__Graduate Degree__Recertification
 __Non-Degree__Certficate Prog __4 yr Degree__Post-Grad(PHD) __Exec Program
 Will you be completing your degree/program this term __yes __no
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 DEGREE/MAJOR/CERTIFICATE:     Name of Institution:
    
 School Address:                                       Expected Graduation
                                                       Date:
 ===========================================================================
 COURSE/SEMINAR INFORMATION: Begin Date:               End Date:
 Course #       Course Title                           Credit/Course Hrs
 *Taxable (Y/N)	Job Required   [   ]  Tuition Cost Other Fees Total Costs 1
 		Career-Related [   ]	$          $          $
		(Check one)

 MANAGERS SIGNATURE                                BADGE#        DATE
 Additional Signature (if required):               BADGE#        DATE
 ===========================================================================
 COURSE/SEMINAR INFORMATION: Begin Date:               End Date:
 Course #       Course Title                           Credit/Course Hrs
 *Taxable (Y/N)	Job Required   [   ]  Tuition Cost Other Fees Total Costs 2
		Career-Related [   ]	$          $          $
		(Check one)

 MANAGERS SIGNATURE                                BADGE#        DATE
 Additional Signature (if required):               BADGE#        DATE
 ===========================================================================
 COURSE/SEMINAR INFORMATION: Begin Date:           End Date:
 Course #       Course Title                       Credit/Course Hrs
 *Taxable (Y/N)	Job Required   [   ]  Tuition Cost Other Fees Total Costs 3
  	        Career-Related [   ]	$	  $	      $  
		(Check one)

 MANAGERS SIGNATURE                                BADGE#       DATE
 Additional Signature (if required):               BADGE#       DATE
 ===========================================================================
 CONDITIONS: I wish to enroll in the above course(s)/programs. I agree to
 pay any late payment(s) or additional fee(s) if my application is not
 submitted in a timely manner.  I have read the policies and procedures and
 agree to abide by them.  I understand that grades or other evidence of
 satisfactory completion of closure must be provided within 60 days from the
 course end date, and if not furnished, I will be responsible for refunding
 to Digital Equipment Corporation monies paid on my behalf.  If I resign or
 am discharged for any reason other than transition, I authorize Digital
 Equipment Corporation to deduct the amount of monies paid on my behalf for
 career related course(s) not completed, from my final pay or other separation
 payment due me.

 Employee Signature:                                    Date:
 ===========================================================================
 MAIL COMPLETED FORM:  DIGITAL EXTERNAL EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE OFFICE
                       P.O. BOX 33966
                       DETROIT, MI  48232

External Educational Assistance Application Instructions & Information:

GENERAL INFORMATION/INSTRUCTIONS:

   - APPLICATIONS - Must be submitted prior to enrolling in selected approved 
     courses.
   - TAX STATUS - Managers/Supervisors are responsible for determining the tax 
     status of the approved course(s).
   - INCOMPLETE FORMS - Will delay processing.
   - UNSIGNED APPLICATIONS - Will not be processed.
   - APPROVER/MANAGER DEFINITION - Must be authorized for the dollar value of 
     the course, seminar or conference, under the training expense category in 
     the Signature Authorization file for the cost center. (See VTX SIGA)
   - TIMING - Please allow sufficient time for processing.  If you have not 
     received a response within 14 working days of mailing your application, 
     contact Digital External Educational Assistance at 1-800-626-1810. (DO NOT
     CONTACT EMPLOYEE DISBURSEMENTS.)
   - QUESTIONS/ASSISTANCE - If you have question or need assistance call
     Digital External Educational Assistance at 1-800-626-1810.

I. APPLICATION SPECIFIC INFORMATION:

1. EMPLOYEE INFORMATION SECTION:  Fill in all of the information requested. All
   correspondence is mailed to your home address.  Include your social security
   number if this is how your school/institution tracks students.

2. DEVELOPMENT PLAN INFORMATION:  An approved written Development Plan is
   required prior to approval of any external educational assistance course(s). 
    
   ELIGIBILITY:
    
   JOB-REQUIRED - All regular active (R01-R40) and regular on-call Digital
   employees are eligible to apply.

   CAREER RELATED - All regular active (R20-R40) Digital employees who have
   a current performance/salary rating of 1,2, or 3 are eligible to apply.

3. DEGREE/INSTITUTION/PROGRAM/SEMINAR/CONFERENCE DATA:  Fill in all of the
   information requested. If business requirements, the employee's job or the 
   employee's manager change, this could affect the previous approval of a 
   course, seminar, conference or degree program.

4. COURSE/SEMINAR INFORMATION:  Digital provides eligible employees with two 
   types of External Educational Assistance: Job Required and Career Related.

   JOB REQUIRED - Courses, seminars, and conferences which are defined as 
   providing skills, abilities and knowledge that are necessary for an  
   employee's current area of responsibility.  Job Required courses are 
   normally taken during working hours and are tied to a written development 
   plan.  The exception is if a course is only offered in the evening.  The 
   determination of whether a course, seminar or conference is Job Required is 
   made by the employee's manager.

   CAREER RELATED - Courses/programs which are to prepare the employee for a 
   Digital job or career opportunity.  They must be tied to a written 
   development plan that is approved by the employee's manager, taken at an 
   accredited college or university with academic credit(s) (unless audit 
   status has been approved by the manager) and related to a current or future 
   occupational Company need that is substantial enough to warrant the 
   investment by Digital.

 * TAX STATUS - Managers/Supervisors are responsible for determining the tax 
   status of the approved course(s).  Manager: Answer the following questions 
   for each course in order for Digital to be in compliance with IRS 127. 
   (Refer to VTX ORANGEBOOK 4.13 for more information)

   1. Does this course prepare the employee for a position within a new trade 
      or business?
   2. Is this course required to satisfy the minimum education requirements for
      the employee's current job or trade or business?

If either question is answered "yes", then the course is considered taxable 
under IRS 127 and educational assistance payment will be included in the 
employee's income and be taxable.

FEES REIMBURSED: Digital reimburses fees associated with a specific course.
Typical fees which are reimbursed: registration, lab, and materials fees.

FEES NOT REIMBURSED: Digital does NOT reimburse: Student, application, parking,
Activity, I.D. and graduation fees.

APPROVER/MANAGER DEFINITION:  Must be authorized for the dollar value of the 
course, seminar or conference, under the training expense category in the 
Signature Authorization file for the cost center. (See VTX SIGA)

5. CONDITIONS:  Read this section carefully and review the External Educational
   Assistance Policy (VTX ORANGEBOOK) 4.13.  Your signature indicates that you 
   agree to abide by all requirements and conditions.  Your manager/supervisor 
   signature indicates that this application meets the External Educational 
   Assistance policy.

II: OTHER INFORMATION:

1. APPROVAL NOTIFICATION: 

   NON-TAXABLE: When your NON-TAXABLE application is approved by Digital 
   External Educational Assistance, you will receive a voucher. Give the 
   voucher to the school when you register for the courses.  This voucher 
   authorizes the school to invoice Digital External Educational Assistance for
   the approved amount of your course.
   
   TEXTBOOK REIMBURSEMENT FORM (Non-Taxable):  A form will be sent to you along
   with the voucher.  Complete the form and attach original itemized receipt(s),
   submit for signatory approval and forward to the Digital External 
   Educational Assistance Program Office.  Your reimbursement will be processed
   and a check will be sent to your home address.

   TAXABLE APPLICATIONS:  When your TAXABLE application is approved by Digital 
   External Educational Assistance, you will receive a confirmation letter 
   indicating that your payment will be processed through Digital Equipment 
   Corporation U.S. Payroll.  Additionally, taxes will be withheld from your 
   payment.

   TEXTBOOK REIMBURSEMENT FORM (Taxable):  A textbook reimbursement form will
   be sent to you along with the confirmation letter. Complete the form and 
   attach original itemized receipt(s), submit for signatory approval and 
   forward to the Digital External Educational Assistance Program Office. Your
   reimbursement will be processed through Digital U.S. Payroll.

   If your voucher or payment information is incorrect, please contact Digital
   External Educational Assistance:  1-800-626-1810.

   If for any reason your application cannot be processed, you will be notified
   promptly by mail.

2. NON-COMPLETED/FAILED COURSES:  If you do not satisfactorily complete the 
   course, you must repay Digital Equipment Corporation the amount of monies 
   paid on your behalf, (tuition, fees & books).

3. GRADE/COMPLETION CERTIFICATE: You must furnish grades or completion
   certificates to Digital External Educational Assistance within 60 days from 
   the end of course completion and receipt(s) for taxable courses.

4. NEXT COURSE/SEMINAR APPROVAL: Employees may submit another application and 
   be approved for the next subsequent term or course before grades for the 
   current term or course are due.  However, additional courses will not be 
   approved until all previous outstanding records are closed.


			Digital Equipment Corporation
		   External Educational Assistance Program
     	                 Textbook Reimbursement Form

 Date                                              Term Dates

 Name
 Address
 Address

 DIRECTIONS:
 1. Enter the name and cost of the required textbook(s) for each course.
 2. Attach original itemized receipt(s) for textbooks.
 3. Sign the Textbook Reimbursement Form.
 4. Mail completed form and attachments to:

     Digital Equipment Corporation 
     External Educational Assistance Program
     P.O. Box 33966
     Detroit, MI 48232


 COURSE 1 NAME:                                 Textbook(s) Costs: $
 CC to be charged:

      
 COURSE 2 NAME:                                 Textbook(s) Costs: $
 CC to be charged:


 COURSE 3 NAME:                                 Textbook(s) Costs: $
 CC to be charged:

 I certify the above is true and correct and that the attached original
 receipt(s) are for the required textbook(s) for the course(s) indicated
 above. 


 Employee Signature:                        Badge #:            Date:

 Manager/Approvers Signature:               Badge #:            Date:

 Manager/Approvers Signature:               Badge #:            Date:
11.518BABAGI::LUSSIERWed Oct 04 1995 01:237
 LFT : Terrie leaving

 VVVVVVVLFT : Not being able to attend a going away for Terrie. I have
              to be away on business

Rich ( bummed out ) 
11.519POWDML::VENTURABad spellers of the world, UNTIE!!Thu Oct 05 1995 20:496
    LFT:  having an auful cold!
    
    LFT2:  My voice is slowly going away. )-:
    
    Holly
    
11.520Must be a Tabu deficency...MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Thu Oct 05 1995 21:104
    LFT: Being SOOOOOO old 8^)
    
    Holly, you can still gesture... what else do you need your voice for
    8^)
11.521SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Wed Oct 11 1995 15:138
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	being so deathy ill this morning and knowing I have to work all day
    and have class until 10pm....at least I don't have a test tonight. %*}
    
    	chico
11.522MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Oct 11 1995 16:083
Sorry to hear it Jim. hope it passes quickly.

CoughlessMan
11.523NAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Thu Oct 12 1995 16:127
    
    LFT: Terrie Leaving, It's going to be quiet in the smoking room. -(
    LFT: -2  Chico being sick.  Your making me worry, PLEASE be well by
             Saturday! 
    
    A
    
11.524POOKY::OROURKEMyOtherVehicleIsABroomThu Oct 12 1995 18:2910
    
    LFT:  That it is almost Terrie's last day.  ::FRIENDS just won't be the
    same without her.
    
    LFT2: That Chico is sick.  C'mon bucko...get healthy soon!
    
    LFT3: Finding out that an old friend's dad just passed away from
    cancer.
    
    /jen
11.525KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesFri Oct 13 1995 01:1310
	LFT: Chico being so ill, a big *HUG* for you and get better soon!!!
	
	LFT2: Not seeing Terrie's face around here soon, but we can still
	      keep in touch through the internet at least, and she will
	      always be an honorary member of ::Friends and be invited to
	      our functions.

	LFT3: The anxiety of waiting!

	Lola
11.526It was at 6:00 p.m. though!POOKY::OROURKEMyOtherVehicleIsABroomFri Oct 13 1995 17:015
    
    LFT: Going to the Oaken Bucket last night to see Terrie...but not
    finding anyone!  :(
    
    /jen
11.527KERNEL::PLANTCMake it so!!!Fri Oct 13 1995 17:239
    
    
    re - 1
    
    
    I hate it when that happens!! BTDT!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.528SUBPAC::SADINfrankly scallop, I don't give a clam!Sun Oct 15 1995 17:067
    
    
    	thanks for the well wishes all. I'm feeling a bit better today
    (still a little tight in the chest tho'). I think I'll live...:*)
    
    
    	chico
11.529POOKY::OROURKEMyOtherVehicleIsABroomMon Oct 16 1995 20:097
    
    LFT:  The hayride accident down in RI over the weekend! :(
    
    2:    Dallas scoring three goals in less than a minute and beating the
    Bruins!
    
    /jen
11.530SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Oct 16 1995 21:527
    
    
    	finding out a friend's mother is in the hospital with Congestive
    Heart Failure.
    
    
    chico
11.531LUDWIG::MANGINIleft blank so as NOT to OFFENDTue Oct 17 1995 01:2311
    
    
    >2:    Dallas scoring three goals in less than a minute and beating the
    >Bruins!
    
    >/jen
    
    
       Oh I know what you mean, almost strated to cry :'(
    
    iceman
11.532NAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Wed Oct 18 1995 21:232
    
    LFT: gonna have to move again!
11.533MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Thu Oct 19 1995 16:497
    Having to rebuild my system disk due to a roached partition table
    (blah)
    
    Oh yeah, this was a dual boot system so I need to do it all TWICE.
    
    CheerlessMan
    
11.534NAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Thu Oct 19 1995 17:129
    
    Oh no you have roaches in your partition!
    I have a little spider crawling around here on my PC. it's cute!
    
    So not get ratholed
    LFT: pain and moving again, Can I get any volunteers to help?
    
    A
    
11.535WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMNorthern LassThu Oct 19 1995 19:489
    
    Ann,
    
    If I was that side of the pond I would gladly help....
    
    I know the "Joys of moving"....
    
    Shelley
    
11.536NAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Fri Oct 20 1995 19:147
    
    LFT: cars, I hate them.  Last weekend it cost me close to $300, that
    is with the rental.  Blasted thing died on me again last night going
    home.  Bad timing for this to happen.  I'm not a happy person today.
    
    A
    
11.537NAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Fri Oct 20 1995 23:182
    
    LFT: $200 fuel pumps
11.538MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Fri Oct 20 1995 23:236
    Mine runs on regular 8^)
    
    Sorry to hear it. I've been through the same type of things on the
    cars I'm keeping going. Where do you draw the line?
    
    CM (checking in the morning on his wife's car in the shop)^8
11.539SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Oct 23 1995 14:129
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	friend of the family committed suicide friday (they just found the
    body yesterday). Not good...
    
    
    chico
11.540LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTTwo Thumbs up for Hu(wo)manityMon Oct 23 1995 17:0519
    Chico,
    
    I feel very sad for the poor soul. How desperate must he have felt,
    how alone, terrible solitude,,, alone in a world full of people, 
    alone in a world full of dark thoughts, helpless in the swirl of the
    dark black hole, sucking yourself in. There is no light anymore and
    noone can show you the way out, because, for yourself, you decided
    that there is none...
    
    A horrible imagination.
    
    We can only hope that this wakes us up for the problems of our
    friends around us. Only friendship and communication can stop a
    development like that.
    
    My honest condolences for his family and friends.
    
    :(
    Martina
11.541SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Oct 23 1995 18:588
    
    	LFT2:
    
    	found out this morning that a very good friend died at 3:30am of a
    heart attack. What the h*** is going on here? Gad this is depressing...
    
    
    
11.542scaryPOOKY::OROURKEMyOtherVehicleIsABroomMon Oct 23 1995 19:285
    
    LFT:  Chico's losses! :(
    
    /jen
    
11.543KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesTue Oct 24 1995 00:115
	LFT: Both of Chico's LFT.  Hope you're doing O.K. Chico...terribly
	     sad.

	Lola    

11.544SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Oct 24 1995 00:376
    
    	life's a bear for sure....just gotta keep on movin' on. Thanks for
    the support hun...
    
    
    chico
11.545MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Tue Oct 24 1995 00:474
    Having been down that road myself in the past, I can feel for you.
    Don't let it get to you, we're here (hear too) for ya.
    
    Jim
11.546and its not even monday...ADCA01::RAVISHANKARThisWolfIsOnlyAsGoodAsHisHowl!Tue Oct 24 1995 08:378
    
    LFT: Chico's losses !
    
    LFT: Martina's bronchitis !
    
    LFT: people out sick !
    
    Ravi.
11.547CHEFS::WARRENJdon't turn around..Wed Oct 25 1995 13:335
    LFT: Hearing Chico's sad news
    
    (can I sneak in an MFT?   ..Giving Chico some hugs!)
    
    Jackie
11.548WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMNorthern LassThu Oct 26 1995 19:466
    
    LFT: Friends who turn out not to be friends...
    
    
    Shelley
    
11.549MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Thu Oct 26 1995 20:531
LFT: The implications of the previous reply
11.550gawd....what a mess!AKOMI2::OROURKEMyOtherVehicleIsABroomFri Oct 27 1995 03:555
    
    LFT: Being at work this late packing!  I just finished and am writing
    up my labels now!!!
    
    /jen
11.551NAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Mon Oct 30 1995 17:113
    
    LFT: Chico's losses.  My p&pe to thier families. 
    
11.552ADCA01::RAVISHANKARThisWolfIsOnlyAsGoodAsHisHowl!Thu Nov 02 1995 07:205
    
    LFT: Shelly's news ! P&PE for you and your family Shelly !
    	Load of HUGS too !
    
    Ravio.
11.553KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Thu Nov 02 1995 15:221
    Hellooo people & peoplettes......
11.554MARVIN::MORRELLI woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot!Thu Nov 02 1995 15:507
    That woman gets everywhere....
    
    Hiya Paula....
    
    Cheers,
    
    	Rick
11.555MARVIN::TANGThu Nov 02 1995 16:254
FNARRRR....!


H.
11.556MARVIN::MORRELLI woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot!Thu Nov 02 1995 16:495
    H... you must be the original Finbarr Saunders...
    
    Cheers,
    
    	Rick.
11.557MARVIN::TANGThu Nov 02 1995 17:064
Translation?


H.
11.558MARVIN::MORRELLI woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot!Thu Nov 02 1995 20:095
    Obviously never read Viz.. 
    
    Cheers,
    
    	Mr. B. The F.
11.559WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMLeading ladyMon Nov 06 1995 14:034
    LFT: The assasination of Yitzak Rabin over the weekend...
         The world needs leaders prepared to stand up for peace.
    
         Shelley
11.560KERNEL::PLANTCMake it so!!!Tue Nov 07 1995 12:407
    
    
    
    Hey Chico, sorry for your losses. I hope alot of sunshine comes your
    way!
    
    Chris
11.561MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Nov 08 1995 14:139
LFT1: Running a standard utility to reconfigure my PC and having it refuse to 
	boot. Of course I needed to do it so I'd have it to get tomorrow's 
	deadline met. I'll be in other offices for a good part of today.

LFT2: hearing about dickheads that won't let a good friend do what she's been 
	planning on for quite some time. All my support to her (and a few 
	revenge suggestions 8^)

CrankyMan
11.562KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesThu Nov 09 1995 01:219
>LFT2: hearing about dickheads that won't let a good friend do what she's been 
>	planning on for quite some time. All my support to her (and a few 
>	revenge suggestions 8^)


Hopefully there's a way around it...I'm keeping my fingers crossed for her!!!

Lola

11.563NAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Fri Nov 10 1995 17:497
    
    LFT:  Shopping......I went from one end of Searstown Mall to the other
          and I have not seen so many UGLY clothes in my life.  So tonight
          I must do the same with Greendale Mall.  It's so depressing.
    
    A
    
11.564BASLG1::BADMANJStandardisation breeds mediocrityFri Nov 10 1995 17:523
    Shopping is a state of mind.
    
    Jamie.
11.565NAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Fri Nov 10 1995 17:586
    
    I agree Jamie and it's making my mind crazy.
    So not to get ratholed
    
    LFT: swollen knee
    
11.566BASLG1::BADMANJStandardisation breeds mediocrityFri Nov 10 1995 18:017
    >LFT: swollen knee
    
    I've got a swollen knee too. Played Squash the other day and twisted
    it. It's not so much painful but it feels awkward to walk on. I think
    my kneecap has moved most of the way to the back of my leg :-(
    
    Jamie.
11.567NAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Fri Nov 10 1995 18:036
    
    Jamie, it sounds painful.  My daughter did that 2 years ago
    cheerleading.  Her's was dislocated.  
    
    Ann
    
11.568MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Fri Nov 10 1995 18:213
    Not even that red dress with the FMshoes?
    
    LFT: not having played squash in too many years
11.569NAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Fri Nov 10 1995 18:253
    
    No CM, I think I may go with the chaps and OV. -)
    
11.570MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Fri Nov 10 1995 18:333
    a winner every time. And then there's no need for the shoes!
    
    Are those Motorcycle notes with JT still in here? THAT was a TOPIC 8^)
11.571NAC::MANYOut Of My Mind...Back In 5 Min.Fri Nov 10 1995 18:384
    
    I don't know those notes are still here.
    
    
11.572MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Fri Nov 10 1995 18:523
    Yep, topic 194.*
    
    Just drooled, er, scrolled through them again...
11.573MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Mon Nov 13 1995 17:415
Blue flashing lights in my rear-view mirror...

Speeding ticket on the way into work this morning 8^( 8^(

CrabbyMan
11.574SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Nov 13 1995 17:468
    
    
    	let me guess, you were driving pink lightning....:*)
    
    	I hates them blue flashin' lights....:*\
    
    
    chico
11.575OTOOA::CLESTERMon Nov 13 1995 17:488
    
    
    Hey CM......sorry to hear about the citation.......hope it isn't a big
    one.......
    
    
    Craig
    
11.576KERNEL::PLANTCMake it so!!!Mon Nov 13 1995 17:5111
    
    
    
    lost muffler last night ..( must be cold without that scarf!!! )
    
    - ticket this morning!!  Not having a good week so far!!!
    
    Poor CM
    
    Chris
    :(
11.577MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Mon Nov 13 1995 22:119
Thanks for the sympathy... that WAS sympathy, right?

The ticket isn't bad but there's a mandatory insurance surcharge that's
worse. Yes, Pink Lightning, uphill at 66mph. Whodathunkit.

Doesn't help that everyone in here seems to be in cover yer *ss mode today. I
wonder what they're all afraid of. Well, doesn't look lik I'll be the last
one standing when the music stops at least. They've been shooting a few
contractors recently...
11.578OTOOA::CLESTERMon Nov 13 1995 23:2212
    
    
    Yeah..CM it was kind of sympathetic....I haven't had one of those
    in quite a while......My insurance has finally come back down to a
    normal level.....I mean highways are for high speed aren't they and
    besides it was only 70 MPH over the limit.......and the constable
    that stopped me was speeding to but no one gave him a ticket....He had
    to be going faster than I was (in order to catch me)....:-)
    
    
    Craig
    
11.579SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Nov 13 1995 23:516
    
    
    	My worst ticket? 100+ in a 55.....cop wasn't smilin'....:)
    
    
    chico
11.580CHEFS::WARRENJso,so, of courseTue Nov 14 1995 12:227
    
>>Doesn't help that everyone in here seems to be in cover yer *ss mode today. I
>>wonder what they're all afraid
    
    perhaps they don't want to get arrested for indecent exposure? ;-)
    
    Jackie
11.581KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Tue Nov 14 1995 12:374
    
    
    
    or set hidden! :)))
11.582MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Nov 15 1995 18:106
Finding out that my "snowblower from hell" is a "major job" to repair. At
least it's early enough in the season that I can FIND a replacement. I'm just
not crazy about the prices I'm hearing since I really need a 10hp one to clear
the driveway in under a day...

CussingMan
11.583KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Wed Nov 15 1995 18:451
    Can I ask a question...??
11.584BABAGI::LUSSIERWed Nov 15 1995 20:404
re: -1

   You can even ask 2.  One at a time of course 
11.585KAMALA::DREYERMore great memoriesThu Nov 16 1995 01:259
LFT: hearing the tough week CM's having, seems like it's one thing after
     another.

	*HUGS* CM!

	Lola



11.586grrrr...time to go!POOKY::OROURKEconfectionary_celebrityThu Nov 16 1995 04:034
    
    LFT: Working LATE again and on a night you really didn't want to! :(
    
    /jen
11.587MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Thu Nov 16 1995 16:0111
Well, my week isn't as bad as it could be. The car didn't require any parts,
just labor and they reconnected my overdrive so my mileage will be better.

The snowblower is another story and I'm probably going to sell it and buy the
new one. They wouldn't give me much in trade so I can't just let it go. It
does work with some TLC, I just don't have the time.

And finally, the cold seems to be there but not to the point where I'm wiped
out so I'll just keep plugging away.

Thanks for the support.
11.588SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Nov 19 1995 16:3918
    
    
    	bummer on the bad luck CM...things will get better tho'! :)
    
    	LFT:
    
    	Missing two EMT calls last night. First one was a child not
    breathing at the Devreaux school in town (school for mentally
    challenged adolecents). By the time I got dressed they were already
    heading out (the tones woke me out of a dead sleep). The 2nd one was
    for a MVA (motor vehicle accident) with unknown injuries. The guys had
    just gotten back from the first call when they went out again...I
    didn't even have time to get out of bed when they announced they were
    already rolling (they had just parked). bummer...:( I'll catch 'em the
    next time for sure....
    
    
    chico
11.589MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Sun Nov 19 1995 19:572
    Hopefully there was a happy ending to the calls. So are you doing
    regular shifts or just filling in as you're able?
11.590SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Nov 19 1995 23:1016
    
    	Just filling in.....it's a completely volunteer squad, so you just
    go if you're able. Rutland's not too gawd awful busy with the
    ambulance...:*)
    
    	LFT:
    
    	two young punks throwing sticks at cars...I saw them whilst out on
    my lunch. I almost went after one of the little buggers, but thought
    his parents would probably sue my pants off if I touched the little
    b*****. Looking back, I think I should've gone after him, but hindsight
    is always 20-20. The woman whose car he hit drove after him anyway...at
    least she made him run a bit...:)
    
    
    chico
11.591MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Mon Nov 20 1995 14:325
    I can't figure out the thrill to random acts of vandalism like that.
    Too bad you didn't have your paint gun to "mark" him for the
    authorities. A good raspberry on his butt might make him think better
    of it.
    
11.592SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Nov 20 1995 14:416
    
    	<phup! - splat!> yeeeeeeeeeeowwwww! :*) Ah, it brings a smile to my
    face just thinking about it....:)
    
    
    chico
11.593VNABRW::MUDRA_MLet me be the one that you loveFri Nov 24 1995 10:397
    LFT: So many unread notes ....
    
    
    :-)))
    
    
    Tina
11.594MARVIN::MORRELLI woz here, Now I'm not, Now you're here, Gutted or wot!Mon Nov 27 1995 20:347
    LFT :
    	
    	Getting off on the wrong foot this morning in Email.... :-\
    
    	Cheers,
    
    	Rick.
11.595I'd rather be home!CHEFS::WARRENJdoes that mean its your round?Tue Nov 28 1995 21:375
    LFT: Sitting in the car park at 5:30 and still being in the same spot
    at 6:10...so here we are (Kathryn and I) waiting for the traffic to go
    away.
    
    Jackie
11.596Missing everyone!NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesTue Nov 28 1995 22:187
Poor Jackie...doesn't sound like fun.  Hugs!

LFT:No time to get in here and read ALL the verbose!

Lola


11.597KERNEL::PLANTCThe Circle is now complete!Wed Nov 29 1995 09:5716
    
    
    Hi Lola!!! 
    
    *wave*
    
    
    LFT: being stuck in a crawling traffic jam all the way from 
        Digital Basingstoke to Reading only to be caught up in the
    	Digital Reading traffic jam that Jackie was caught in.
    
    	I still made it home alot earlier than Jackie and it took me
    	2 hours. Very strange!!!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.598MARVIN::TANGWed Nov 29 1995 12:2210
re Traffic in Reading area last night...

We walked out to the car park in DECPARK at 6.30 last night, sat in the
car and waited for a while.  Gave up and came back indoors.  Went back to
the car and left at 7.20.

Cause of excess traffic: sad football fans travelling to see the Reading v
Southampton match!

H.
11.599Just love them kids :-|CHEFS::WARRENJdoes that mean its your round?Wed Nov 29 1995 12:2814
    
    Yup, it was the footie, plus an accident on the A33 and a car broken
    down in the REO car park.   I eventually got home at 8...when Kathryn
    was shooed to get washed and ready for bed....
    
    and not to rathole
    
    LFT: That Katie started playing and left the taps running, with the
    plug in the sink...and we had water dripping through the ceiling below
    as a result.
    
    Today has got to be better!
    
    Jackie
11.600SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Nov 29 1995 14:569
    
    	LFT:
    
    	still sick! :*\ I exercise every day, take my vitamins, keep the
    home clean and I think I've been more sick lately than ever before!
    arg!
    
    
    chico
11.601CHEFS::WARRENJtodays another dayWed Nov 29 1995 15:019
     re -1
    
    <puts on nurses outfit>
    
    
    Well, Mr Sadin, you've done all the good things to keep you healthy but
    try some rest!
    
    Jackie :-)
11.602nice outfit...oh Nurse!!!KERNEL::PLANTCThe Circle is now complete!Wed Nov 29 1995 15:213
    
    
    SCHWING!!!
11.603SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Nov 29 1995 16:385
    
    	I was just going to say that....:*)
    
    
    
11.604MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Nov 29 1995 17:493
LFT: Snow.

Glad I got the snowblower last night. I needed to use it.
11.605BABAGI::LUSSIERWed Nov 29 1995 18:077
LFT  : Cheeks being sick !  

          Gotta eat your Honey more often :-)))


Rich
11.606NO SNEEZING on Saturday!POOKY::OROURKEconfectionary_celebrityWed Nov 29 1995 18:247
    
    
    LFT:  Chico being sick....
    
    :(
    
    /jen
11.607NAC::MANYA Stitch In Time Saves Blood LossWed Nov 29 1995 19:217
    
    LFT: Cheeks being sick.....Nurse Jackie and Rich is right, you must
    rest and eat your honey.  I had a pin that said 'Stay healthy Eat your
    Honey'
    
    A
    
11.608KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!&quot;To tell you the truth, Not so much!Wed Nov 29 1995 19:243
    
    
    I'm all for that!! :))))))
11.609SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Nov 29 1995 20:509
    
    	Chris, you are BAAAAD..:)
    
    	re: honey
    
    	I guess I'll go home and chug the rest of the jar...:)
    
    
    chico
11.610POWDML::VENTURADeck the Halls... DON'T SAY IT!!Thu Nov 30 1995 21:354
    LFT:  Not being able to get in here as often as I would like to!!  I'm
    WAY to busy to do ANYTHING!! )-:
    
    H
11.611KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!&quot;To tell you the truth, Not sFri Dec 01 1995 09:576
    
    
    Here's a HUG for ya Holly!! We do miss ya!!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.612NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesMon Dec 04 1995 18:035
LFT: Home improvement nightmares!

LOLA


11.613KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Mon Dec 04 1995 18:226
    
    
    the show is pretty good!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.614MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Mon Dec 04 1995 18:347
Not when Tim is doing the work on YOUR house...

Morning All!

LFT: Being flat out all weekend in here and not seeing the light at the end of
the tunnel yet. At least there's a power down this weekend so I'll HAVE to stay
home.
11.615MARVIN::TANGMon Dec 04 1995 18:406
Hi Jim,

Good luck with the work and hope this weekend comes quickly for
you...

H.  :o)
11.616Lips flapping in the breeze...NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesMon Dec 04 1995 21:556
LFT: Steve not being able to keep my presents a surprise...give him a few beers
     and his lips are really loose!

But the anticipation is great and lasts alot longer than the surprise!!

Lola
11.617Come on 4:30!!!NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesMon Dec 04 1995 23:584
LFT: I'm bored and have been bored all day!!!!!

Lola    

11.618POWDML::VENTURADeck the Halls... DON'T SAY IT!!Tue Dec 05 1995 22:1610
    LFT:  Getting a VERY weird message this morning on my voicemail...
    
    Saw my voicemail light on at 10:30.  Checked right away, and it was
    from an external number.  I listened to the message and it was my
    outgoing message from my answering machine AT HOME!!  Then it stopped,
    clicked a few times, then it was someone else's answering machine! 
    Really weird!  
    
    Holly
    
11.619Is it April Fools already?NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesTue Dec 05 1995 22:226
That is wierd Holly.  We had a strange one the other day too, it was the
message and loud beeping you get when you leave your phone off the hook too
long.  Very strange indeed!

Lola    

11.620SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Dec 05 1995 22:235
    
    
    Poltergiests are cool.....:)
    
    
11.621NAC::MANYA Stitch In Time Saves Blood LossTue Dec 05 1995 22:353
    
    Holly, we've had that happen here too.  Very strange indeed.
    
11.622NAC::MANYA Stitch In Time Saves Blood LossTue Dec 05 1995 22:363
    
    Here have a tissue Chico!  And stop your sniveling.
    
11.623MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Tue Dec 05 1995 22:393
That message could be due to someone forwarding your home number to your
office phone. We used to forward exotic weather messages to people that wanted
to take a vacation there.
11.624SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Dec 06 1995 00:414
    
    
    	snivel? me? :)
    
11.625KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Wed Dec 06 1995 12:389
    
    
    Lola, did you set your home voicemail from work??
    
    This has happened to me before where for some reason your voicemail
    records your conversation.
    
    Chris_spooky
    :)
11.626MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Dec 06 1995 16:588
LFT: Car problems.

Had to go rescue my wife and daughter this morning. The alternator belt broke
and took out the power steering belt (still in one piece) and made the car
immediately be tough to steer and light up all the idiot lights on the dash.
It's a simple fix but a big surprise while driving.

Definately a full moon!
11.627not me that did that!!!NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesWed Dec 06 1995 17:0813
>    Lola, did you set your home voicemail from work??
    
>    This has happened to me before where for some reason your voicemail
>    records your conversation.
    
Chris, it was Holly that had her home recording on the machine...I know, it's
so difficult to keep everyone straight around here...but then, who wants to
be straight?  :-))))

Lola 



11.628MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Dec 06 1995 17:203
> ...but then, who wants to be straight?  :-))))

I'm straight out, but perhaps we shouldn't discuss that
11.629NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesWed Dec 06 1995 17:4110
>I'm straight out, but perhaps we shouldn't discuss that

CM, I think you need to see your wife a little more often so she can
relieve you of your problem so you can settle down....





11.630MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Dec 06 1995 18:047
> CM, I think you need to see your wife a little more often so she can
> relieve you of your problem so you can settle down....

I did get woken up when she came home and I did oversleep so I must have been
relaxed...

8^)
11.631ah..small price for having friends! :)POOKY::OROURKEconfectionary_celebrityWed Dec 06 1995 20:174
    
    LFT: Having 25 more holiday cards to write! 
    
    /jen
11.632and another injuredNAC::MANYA Stitch In Time Saves Blood LossThu Dec 07 1995 17:394
    
    LFT:  Got a phone call yesterday from my daughter Crissy.  We will find
          out tomorrow at 2 if she broke/fractured her arm.  She got
          tripped playing basketball.  
11.633sniffle sniffleCHEFS::WARRENJFri Dec 08 1995 16:503
    LFT: I think I'm getting another cold.
    
    Jackie
11.634Not so soon!!!!NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesFri Dec 08 1995 16:544
Don't you dare, Jackie....take massive doses of vitamin C and down a 1/2 pint
of Apricot brandy.  That should ward of the evil spirits!!

Lola
11.635KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Fri Dec 08 1995 17:224
    
    
    
    buga buga hex hex hex!!!
11.636KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Fri Dec 08 1995 17:235
    Craig you yound whipper snapper...
    
    98%... that's the vibes I get...
    
    Paula
11.637<KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Fri Dec 08 1995 17:269
    
    
    
    98% snaphoo?? 98% proof?? 98% grade point average???
    
    what's with the HOT talk?? :)))
    
    Chris
    :)
11.638SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Dec 10 1995 17:077
    
    	LFT:
    
    	the meds I'm on upset my stomach something terrible. gak...
    
    
    chico
11.639WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMNowhere, No-way, No-howMon Dec 11 1995 13:397
    
    LFT: Banks.....
    
    
    
    
    Shellley
11.640CHEFS::WARRENJMon Dec 11 1995 14:339
    re -1
    
    You mean the kind who like to say 'no' ?
    
    Jackie
    
    (this is a play on an advertisement of one of the banks here)
    
    
11.641WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMNowhere, No-way, No-howMon Dec 11 1995 14:459
    
    Nah Jackie.. I mean the kind who send a new bank car to your old
    address and cancel your original card so you cant get any money :-(
    
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.642I should be more careful...NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesMon Dec 11 1995 16:515
LFT: people not knowing when I'm kidding...darn this dry, sarcastic sense
     of humor!

Lola

11.643KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Mon Dec 11 1995 16:524
    
    
    
    are you kidding Lola?? :)))
11.644NO!!!NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesMon Dec 11 1995 16:571
CHRIS!!!!!!
11.645MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Mon Dec 11 1995 17:211
I dunno. Sometimes it's hard to tell... 8^)
11.646NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesMon Dec 11 1995 17:257
>I dunno. Sometimes it's hard to tell... 8^)

True...I still can't tell when my Dad is joking sometimes, and I've known him
for a long, long time!


11.647NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesTue Dec 12 1995 19:095
LFT: Pushing buttons without realizing it :-(

Lola


11.648KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Tue Dec 12 1995 19:2110
    
    
    
    actually I didn't take the conversation as a go at men either..though
    Paula is a goer!! 
    
    aren't cha Paula??? You go dontcha?? nudge nudge...know what I mean??
    
    Chris
    :)
11.649CHEFS::WARRENJTue Dec 12 1995 19:265
    and how do you know, Mr Plant?
    
    ;-)
    
    Jackie
11.650KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Tue Dec 12 1995 19:286
    
    
    cause she told me!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.651INNOCENTKERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Tue Dec 12 1995 19:291
    I did..???
11.652KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Tue Dec 12 1995 19:325
    
    
    cough..choke....
    
    Paula...Pleaseeeee!
11.653KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Tue Dec 12 1995 19:331
    Oh dear......
11.654KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Tue Dec 12 1995 19:427
    
    
    
    oh dear what??
    
    Chris
    :)
11.655POOKY::OROURKEconfectionary_celebrityTue Dec 12 1995 23:495
    
    LFT: Aching muscles!
    
    /j
    
11.656POWDML::VENTURADeck the Halls... DON'T SAY IT!!Wed Dec 13 1995 00:154
    LFT:  BAD headaches!  Headaches that won't go away with 600mg of
    motrin! )-:
    
    H
11.657WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMNowhere, No-way, No-howWed Dec 13 1995 13:248
    
    LFT: Ditto for note .642
         you're not alone Lola..... :-(
    
    
    
         Shelley
    
11.658MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Dec 13 1995 13:293
    Well, I hope it wasn't me that you think you perturbed (as Lola did)^8
    
    And no, in reality, it was just an misunderstanding...
11.659WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMNowhere, No-way, No-howWed Dec 13 1995 13:567
    
    HEHEHEHE... No i KNOW I couldnt perturb you CM..........
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.660SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Dec 13 1995 16:2918
    
    
    	re: headaches
    
    	Migraine headaches don't usually respond to medicine very well
    since the migraine effectively shuts down the digestion process. Thus,
    no matter how much medicine you take, it never gets digested until
    AFTER the migraine has gone away. I've often wondered if one could rub
    aspercream on their head....;*)
    
    	sorry to hear about the headaches....I know how dibilitating a
    migraine can be. I had them as a kid and I remember waking up in the
    middle of the night screaming/crying and holding my head. I also
    remember my mother being reduced to zombie like states when she had
    them. 
    
    
    chico
11.661MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Dec 13 1995 16:322
SPeaking of LFTs... How'd the car repair go? It was mighty cold out there this
morning
11.662NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesWed Dec 13 1995 16:367
Holly,

It takes me 3 doses of 800 mg. motrins to get rid of my headaches...if I'm 
lucky (not a migraine).  If I'm not lucky it takes me about 9 doses and 3 days..
I can empathize with you.  Hope it's gone by now.

Lola
11.663re: carSUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Dec 13 1995 16:3612
    
    
    	Couldn't get the part until today, so I'll be repairing the car
    tomorrow. I managed to secure a vehicle from my parents for a day or
    two, so all is well....
    
    
    	I'm going to see if AAA will tow the car to my parents house so I
    can use their garage.
    
    
    	chico
11.664MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Thu Dec 14 1995 16:576
The weather 8^( SUpposed to get 4-7" of snow followed by sleet and freezing
rain right about quitting time. AND my knees are killing me due to the weather
changes. At least it's supposed to be warming up a bit. All snow or all rain
would be easier to deal with.

CrankyMan
11.665LEVERS::DREYERMore great memoriesThu Dec 14 1995 17:054
I'd like to see the all rain, and forget about the freezing part!!
Has it started snowing in SHR yet CheckitoutMAn?

Lola
11.666MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Thu Dec 14 1995 17:103
> Has it started snowing in SHR yet CheckitoutMAn?

Yeah, for about 1/2 an hour I'd say.
11.667MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Thu Dec 14 1995 17:111
Did you set me up for that reply on purpose?? 8^)
11.668LEVERS::DREYERMore great memoriesThu Dec 14 1995 17:114
Think I'll go take a look out the window...it hadn't started here yet
last time I looked.

Lola
11.669LEVERS::DREYERMore great memoriesThu Dec 14 1995 17:121
Snarf!!!
11.670Fine way to start a day!!LEVERS::DREYERMore great memoriesThu Dec 14 1995 17:132
Didn't set you up on purpose, but when I realized where we were I just had
to jump on it!!!!
11.671MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Thu Dec 14 1995 17:143
Well, you got the better end of the deal 8^)

Jump away! 8^)
11.672LEVERS::DREYERMore great memoriesThu Dec 14 1995 17:395
O.K...get ready...here I come!!!



Booooiiiinnngggg!!!!
11.673MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Thu Dec 14 1995 17:431
We'd definately be in the wrong topic 8^)
11.674NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesThu Dec 14 1995 17:541
How true!!!!!
11.675ADCA01::RAVISHANKARThisWolfIsOnlyAsGoodAsHisHowl!Fri Dec 15 1995 07:567
    
    LFT: Network giving up on this side of the world and thus I was locked
    	outta FRIENDS... hence the abrupt exit.
    
    LFT: Missed an interesting conversation here in FRIENDS...
    
    Ravi.
11.676WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMNowhere, No-way, No-howFri Dec 15 1995 14:328
    
    LFT : Piloting new software... ARGGGGGHHHHH !!!!
    
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.677KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Fri Dec 15 1995 14:3910
    
    
    re -1
    
    does that mean :  Crahsing new system?? :))))
    
    
    Chris
    :)
    
11.678WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMNowhere, No-way, No-howFri Dec 15 1995 14:417
    
    No it means new system crashing my brain... :-(((((((
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.679KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Fri Dec 15 1995 14:461
    Hey Scott Babe - how ya diddling..??
11.680KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Fri Dec 15 1995 14:473
    
    
    that's a rather personal question!!
11.681CSLALL::BERGERONFri Dec 15 1995 14:4911
    Paula,
    
    		In the LFT section  
    
    
    But, I am doing alright, how about you?
    
    	Still have the red tinsel?  :*)
    
    
    				Scott
11.682SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Dec 17 1995 17:3810
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	3.5hrs sleep last night....{yawn}. I just HAD to stay up late and
    watch Pulp Fiction again while waiting for the wife to get home from
    shopping. :)
    
    
    chico
11.683Just does not seem such a Merry Christmas.SNOWY::ROYERI am still the same, the world changed!Tue Dec 19 1995 17:3317
    LFT:
    
    Not being able to spend much time with Grandson Gregory now.
    
    November 18, This year my son Dane died at age 27, his son was 4 years
    old on the 20th of November.  Now Tressie (D-I-L) is not coming around
    much anymore, and we are having grandson withdrawal symptoms.  It hurts
    to lose a child, but to also lose a grandchild is worse.
    
    Dane was just a few months shy of his BS in History, and the University
    of Colorado at Colorado Springs (UCCS) is going to award his degree
    anyway.  He had an average of 3.75-3.80.
    
    So, if there are any extra hugs around... also prayers for me and Lee
    Ann would be nice.
    
    Dave 
11.684KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Tue Dec 19 1995 17:496
    
    
    here's another bit of positive energy headed your way Dave
    
    Chris
    
11.685MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Tue Dec 19 1995 17:524
That's terrible, Dave. It's always tough to lose someone close, but worse when
it's that young.

P&PE to you and your family
11.686Thanks...SNOWY::ROYERI am still the same, the world changed!Tue Dec 19 1995 18:0612
    Thanks Chris and Jim.
    
    Yep, it is difficult, but I am getting experienced, the first time 
    Was in 1968, David Joseph III lived just 12 days, and I can say that
    the longer you have one around, the harder it is.
    
    Maybe next Christmas will be better...
    
    
    Power Hugs (tm) to all my friends.
    
    Dave
11.687SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Dec 19 1995 18:176
    
    
    	Keep strong Dave....I'll keep you in my prayers.
    
    
    chico
11.688MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Tue Dec 19 1995 18:172
Two-shoes AOL email address is in here somewhere. I'm sure she'd enjoy hearing
from you as well. (has it really been 1.5 years since you left?)
11.689KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Tue Dec 19 1995 18:217
    
    
    watch ya talking about CM?
    Terrie only left a while back.
    
    Chris
    :)
11.690MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Tue Dec 19 1995 18:252
Dave said he had been gone 1.5 years. I remember him leaving and I didn't
think it had been THAT long I had been in here.
11.691Insulting deer.SNOWY::ROYERI am still the same, the world changed!Tue Dec 19 1995 18:3712
    1.25 years is closer to the real thing, but time does go by when you
    are busy.  
    
    I spend 6 months looking for work, and I found the Seattle job and
    started May 1st.  I worked until November 3rd, and came back and got
    the temp job here.
    
    
    I went out hunting in Michigan last fall, saw lots of Does, no Bucks,
    then saw a big buck in Colorado Springs.   (Yes in Town.)
    
    Dave
11.692NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesTue Dec 19 1995 18:4213
LFT: Daves grief.  My condolences and positive energy are there for you Dave.
     I hope your D_I_L will become more cmpassionate and let you see your
     grandson more often.  Can you petition for visitation?  I think there  
     is such a thing as "grandparents rights".


     Holidays are very tough when loved ones have died.  Naturally you enjoy 
     being with those that are left, but miss terribly those that are gone.

     Big hugs to you,
	
     Lola

11.693POOKY::OROURKEconfectionary_celebrityTue Dec 19 1995 21:346
    
    LFT: Tough times for folks at the Holidays!
    
    LFT2: Having a bad BIOS on my laptop.... grrr.
    
    /jen
11.694it just wouldn't let me in.. *8)ADCA01::RAVISHANKARThisWolfIsOnlyAsGoodAsHisHowl!Wed Dec 20 1995 09:415
    
    LFT : Getting uncerimoniusly (sp?) thrown outta friends by the network
    	yesterday !
    
    Ravi.
11.695WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMGone But Not ForgottenWed Dec 20 1995 13:516
    
    LFT : people from Leeds ignoring me....
    
    
    
        Shell
11.696BABAGI::LUSSIERWed Dec 20 1995 19:488
    
    Shell,
    
      Those of us on this side of the pond would never ignore you
    deliberaltely !!
    
    Rich
    
11.697KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Wed Dec 20 1995 19:513
    
    
    hey Rich!
11.698WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMGone But Not ForgottenWed Dec 20 1995 19:536
    
    Thanks Rich.. thats sweet of ya ;-)
    
    
    
    Shell
11.699BABAGI::LUSSIERWed Dec 20 1995 20:018
    
    Your Welcome,  errr, What's your name again ?  :-)))
    
    
    Rich
    
    
    
11.700SNARF!!NZOV02::TANJOYCEWed Dec 20 1995 22:362
    LFT:  SO MANY unseen notes, so little time!!
    
11.701CHEFS::WARRENJThu Dec 21 1995 13:416
    Dave, sorry to hear about your loss.  
    
    
    Special hugs for you.
    
    Jackie
11.702Here we go again...NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesThu Dec 21 1995 16:339
LFT: Steve's Gramma being rushed to the hospital Tuesday.  She was having 
     seizures, about 6 months ago she was diagnosed with terminal cancer.
     She was severely dehydrated and her electolytes were way out of whack.
     Doctor says she will be home for Christmas, we're just praying she makes
     it by then.

     Lola


11.703WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMGone But Not ForgottenThu Dec 21 1995 16:528
    
    Lola - my thoughts are with you and your family.. 
    
    
    *HUGS*
    
    
    Shelley
11.704I *want* this coat!!!NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesWed Dec 27 1995 16:2610
LFT: that the gorgeous leather coat Steve got me is way too big, and there
     are no more in stock, and the store isn't going to order any more.
	I'm wondering if I should just get it altered and have something
	else made with the extra leather...hmmm, it would make a
	beautiful vest...

	Anyone know any really good leather alteration experts in the
	Leominster area?

Lola
11.705MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Dec 27 1995 17:372
Wander over and ask Ann. I know she had someone to recommend when I asked
before Christmas. 
11.706NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesWed Dec 27 1995 17:3910
>Wander over and ask Ann. I know she had someone to recommend when I asked
>before Christmas. 

She was exactly who I planned on asking, but thought I'd ask in here too!

Thanks!

Lola


11.707Oh, lonesome me!SNOWY::ROYERI am still the same, the world changed!Wed Dec 27 1995 19:307
    
    MY DIL is taking Gregory to Michigan this week... Today until the 2nd
    of Janurary.  I just hope he does well in the cold weather, she usually
    does not put enough clothing on him to keep a flea warm.
    
    
    Dave 
11.708NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesWed Dec 27 1995 20:144
Does she have any common sense?  How old is Gregory?  

Lola

11.709Some do, some do not!SNOWY::ROYERI am still the same, the world changed!Wed Dec 27 1995 22:265
    4 years old...
    
    Common Sense, naw, I do not think so.
    
    Dave
11.710NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesWed Dec 27 1995 22:294
	Seems to me that if she does not keep him warm enough, that's 
	"negligence"

	Lola
11.711MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Dec 27 1995 22:422
Well, I know some grandparents that claimed similar things about my kids but
they wear winter coats when it gets below 60F... 8^)
11.712I'll have to wait until he gets back.SNOWY::ROYERI am still the same, the world changed!Thu Dec 28 1995 18:107
    Tressie is from Michigan, and she is a victim of Sexual and Child
    Abuse, and she only has a light weight jacket for Gregory.  I feel
    sorry for her, but I feel worse for Gregory.  
    
    Jim, not all grandparents can be painted with the same brush!
    
    Dave
11.713MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Thu Dec 28 1995 18:111
Sorry to hear that, Dave. Will she accept a proper jacket for him as a present?
11.714I keep his train in my house.SNOWY::ROYERI am still the same, the world changed!Thu Dec 28 1995 18:214
    If we got one, she would just then go buy another one.  She does not
    want him to have anything from us.
    
    Dave
11.715MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Thu Dec 28 1995 18:271
Sad. Well P&PE to you and him.
11.716KERNEL::WRIGHTDThu Dec 28 1995 18:271
    elaborate if you feel like it please. P&PE?
11.717MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Thu Dec 28 1995 18:281
Prayers and Positive Energy (another topic in here from years past)
11.718KERNEL::WRIGHTDThu Dec 28 1995 18:303
    I am gonna have lots of positive energy - my parents are taking my 3 yr
    old to Tenerife in the Canaries in 10 days time and Im gonna have so
    much relaxation to catch upon - it'll be heaven!!!
11.719It's the end result that mattersNETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesThu Dec 28 1995 20:148
Oh Dave, that is really sad.  So, it sounds like if you buy him a jacket, 
even if she won't give him that one (what a jerk), she'll at least buy him 
another...so, the end result would be that he'd have a warm jacket???
Guess there's more than one way to beat an egg....*what's that expression*??!!

Lola 


11.720look mum...no fingers!POOKY::OROURKEconfectionary_celebrityWed Jan 10 1996 18:479
    
    LFT:  Steve getting hurt
    
    LFT2: My hands are so chapped (and honest I've been wearing gloves
    lately) that I had to put tons of cream on them last night and sleep
    with socks over my hands.   I woke up during the night and had the 
    sensation I had turned into a muppet!  
    
    /jen
11.721MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Jan 10 1996 18:514
>    I woke up during the night and had the 
>    sensation I had turned into a muppet!  

Can I be Jim Henson?? 8^)
11.722MARVIN::TANGWed Jan 10 1996 18:533
Reincarnated I guess?  :o)

H.
11.723MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Jan 10 1996 18:551
Well, the thought of it could raise the dead 8^)
11.724NAC::MANYA Stitch In Time Saves Blood LossTue Jan 16 1996 18:482
    LFT: accidently stabbed myself with a knife this morning! Ouch.
    
11.725OTOOA::CLESTERTue Jan 16 1996 18:559
    
    
    
    Ann....that was a silly thing to do......be more careful next
    time.....:-)
    
    
    C
    
11.726MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Tue Jan 16 1996 18:555
Four times!

Smooches

(I don't sign bandaids)
11.727NAC::MANYA Stitch In Time Saves Blood LossTue Jan 16 1996 19:025
    
    I'll try Craig.
    Yeah CM after the first it felt so good I thought I'd do it 3 
    more times. 
    
11.728MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Tue Jan 16 1996 19:133
I know THAT feeling... Now about that cut...

Heal quickly
11.729POWDML::VENTURAKitties-Zero to nuts in 4 secs.Tue Jan 16 1996 19:545
    Ann... you never cease to amaze me!  Your personal name certainly is
    perfect for you!  haha!!
    
    Holly
    
11.730NAC::MANYA Stitch In Time Saves Blood LossTue Jan 16 1996 19:592
    Thanks Holly, that's why it's what it is! -)
    
11.731MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Tue Jan 16 1996 21:171
You're supposed to hold the 6ther end of the knife
11.732NAC::MANYA Stitch In Time Saves Blood LossTue Jan 16 1996 22:093
    You mean other right?  Well I was holding it in my right hand
    and stabbed the left.
    
11.733MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Tue Jan 16 1996 22:133
Seems rather silly when you put it in writing, doesn't it???

8^)
11.734NAC::MANYA Stitch In Time Saves Blood LossTue Jan 16 1996 22:391
    why yes it does
11.735SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Jan 17 1996 16:3110
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	the 1.5hr ride into work this morning! They closed I290 due to
    accidents caused by ice. I had to take 140 south to Shrewsbury, hop on
    Rt9, get on Rt20East to Northboro, and get back on 290! What a mess....
    
    
    chico
11.736NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesWed Jan 17 1996 16:403
LFT: 3 hour meetings...about to go to one.  UGH!!!

Lola
11.737MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Jan 17 1996 16:432
Wow Chico. Didn't hear anything about that one. I took my time at 6am and it
was ok on the Pike.
11.738yet another call log *sigh*CHEFS::WARRENJWed Jan 17 1996 16:487
    
    LFT:  X.400 Fax!
    
    or rather its an LFT when it is not working and I have several to send
    out.
    
    Jackie 
11.739KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Wed Jan 17 1996 16:505
    
    
    Good morning America!! :))
    Chris
    :0
11.740;->NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesWed Jan 17 1996 17:113
Sorry to see that's a LFT, Chris!!!

Lola
11.741KERNEL::PLANTCTo tell you the truth, Not so much!Wed Jan 17 1996 17:1813
    
    
    
    ooops!
    
    
    well..its LFT  because we had to wait until mid day to say it!
    
    
    good save?? :)))
    
    Chris
    :)
11.742CHEFS::WARRENJWed Jan 17 1996 17:206
    
    
    Good try at the save, Chris
    
    Jackie_chuckling
    
11.743:-(NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesFri Jan 19 1996 00:065
LFT: Someone I'm very close to almost flipped out this morning and I am
     very stressed out because of it.


Lola
11.744NZOV02::TANJOYCEFri Jan 19 1996 01:175
    LFT:  11.743
    
    Big hugs to you Cherub.  If you're in the office tommorrow, I'll dtn.
    Take care...
    
11.745CHEFS::WARRENJFri Jan 19 1996 12:383
    LFT: Lolas comment.   Hope its a bit better today!  *hugs*
    
    Jackie
11.746MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Fri Jan 19 1996 16:505
Here's some backup support for a supportive friend.

ten deep cleansing breaths and work through it.

We're here if you need to talk.
11.747I did that many years ago...SNOWY::ROYERI am still the same, the world changed!Fri Jan 19 1996 17:195
    Ann, kisses of power and healing for your lack of coordination.
    
    luv ya,
    
    Dave
11.748Better I hope?SNOWY::ROYERI am still the same, the world changed!Fri Jan 19 1996 17:227
    Lola,
    
    Major hugs to you... maybe a caress or two..
    
    Luv ya,
    
    Dave
11.749NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesFri Jan 19 1996 20:038
	Thanks CM, Dave, Serenity, Jackie, Ann...

	Your kind words and support mean alot to me.  It will take time, but
	hopefully it'll all work out O.K.

	Lola

	P.S. A caress is always nice, Dave!
11.750KERNEL::PLANTCToo much pooh!Fri Jan 19 1996 20:0610
    
    
    
    >pinch< for Lola! :)))
    
    
    a pinch with the hand is worth 2 in the bush! :))
    
    Chris
    :)
11.751Lola's tender!!NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesFri Jan 19 1996 20:081
Ouch!!
11.752KERNEL::PLANTCToo much pooh!Fri Jan 19 1996 20:099
11.753You *did* it, you can fix it!!!NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesFri Jan 19 1996 20:123
Chris...why don't you rub it for me ;->

Lola
11.754KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Fri Jan 19 1996 20:133
    ooooer
    
    Paula
11.755KERNEL::PLANTCToo much pooh!Fri Jan 19 1996 20:134
11.756oh that double entendreCHEFS::WARRENJFri Jan 19 1996 20:184
    
    LFT: Bad boys get set hidden
    
    Jackie_mod
11.757NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesFri Jan 19 1996 20:184
Darn...how could I have missed it so quickly....

Lola

11.758CHEFS::WARRENJFri Jan 19 1996 20:208
    Lola,
    
    I'm sure Chris will enlighten you when he sees your note...he's just
    gone away chuckling.
    
    :-)
    
    Jackie
11.759KERNEL::WRIGHTDFri Jan 19 1996 20:2110
    what is all these set hiddens!!!
    
    I always miss the fun!!
    
    hi Lola!!
    
    
    luv
    
    D
11.760MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Fri Jan 19 1996 21:384
Well, a line like that BEGS for a follow up but it reallt IS over the line. I
can imagine what Chris said.

Here's a kiss to make it better, Lola 8^) 8^)
11.761I'm *not* sure where that was though :-)NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesFri Jan 19 1996 21:467
>Here's a kiss to make it better, Lola 8^) 8^)

Hehehe...did you kss me where Chris pinched me, CM?

Lola


11.762MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Fri Jan 19 1996 21:561
Apply as needed 8^)
11.763NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesFri Jan 19 1996 22:011
:-)))
11.764SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Jan 21 1996 15:2012
11.765way too young to go...AKOMI2::OROURKElike the desert misses the rainSun Jan 21 1996 19:405
    
    LFT : just heading out for a funeral of someone who died at age 32...
    
    /jen
    
11.766SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Jan 21 1996 20:125
    
    	bummer /jen...my condolences....
    
    
    chico
11.767sighMKOTS3::STARBRIGHTSerenityMon Jan 22 1996 16:533
    LFT:
    
    Monday again
11.768We are expecting.... SNOW!SNOWY::ROYERI am still the same, the world changed!Mon Jan 22 1996 17:225
    MONDAY - It should be limited to once a month.
    
    LFT:  Missing all the HIDDEN notes.
    
    Dave
11.769NETCAD::DREYERMore great memoriesMon Jan 22 1996 17:245
>    MONDAY - It should be limited to once a month.
 
Agreed !  And a SNARFY .*69!

Lola
11.770KERNEL::WRIGHTDMon Jan 22 1996 17:287
    Hi Lola!!!
    
    
    how goes it mate?
    
    
    D
11.771MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Mon Jan 22 1996 17:284
>    MONDAY - It should be limited to once a month.

instead of 5 a week.

11.772CSLALL::BERGERONTue Jan 30 1996 01:138
    LFT:1  My telephone connection to work from my house.......
    
    
    
    
    				Scott
    
    			
11.773MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Jan 31 1996 17:598
Figure I should probably let people know. The person I replaced has returned
from maternity leave so I'll be finishing this contract on the 9th. I've had a
few leads including something else promising inside DEC but with startup
pressures, I'll probably drop out of notes for a while. In any case, I figured
I'd best tell you at this point before I let it go any further. I've known for
a while.

ContractMan
11.774FIXER::WRIGHTDWed Jan 31 1996 18:013
    bad news - we wont hear from you for a while!!
    
    D
11.775MARVIN::TANGWed Jan 31 1996 18:025
CM...  :o(

Hope the new job is 100%+ definite for you...  :o)

H.
11.776FIXER::WRIGHTDWed Jan 31 1996 18:053
    ditto Jim!
    
    D
11.777MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Jan 31 1996 18:075
Thanks guys. I've been told I'm the #1 pick for one but it's not the primary
one I was interested in. Time will tell. I've been pretty busy on that front
lately. Sorry for not posting it earlier but I didn't need the pressure from
too many daily status updates. I figured at this point, it was close enough I
owed it to yas
11.778MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Jan 31 1996 18:081
Perhaps that was a lucky entry?? sevens and elevens??
11.779CSLALL::BERGERONWed Jan 31 1996 18:104
    LFT:     Snow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   (Sorry, Deb......)
    
    
    				S
11.780SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Jan 31 1996 18:2210
    
    
    	re: jim
    
    	sorry to hear that jimbo! <sigh> such is the life of a contractor I
    suppose. Hope you're back in the mix soon!
    
    	good luck!
    
    	chico
11.781MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Jan 31 1996 18:482
Goes with the territory. This isn't really the position I interviewed for in
any case so the change is mutual. Like a bad penny, I keep coming back 8^)
11.782MKOTS3::STARBRIGHTSerenityWed Jan 31 1996 19:299
    DAMMIT JIM! <- that's the best Scotty imitation I can do
    
    Oh Jim, who's going to play with me when you're gone? (sniff, sniff)
    
    
    Serenity (I do NOT need any more bad news this week, thank you)
    
    
    
11.783MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Jan 31 1996 19:369
DAMMIT JIM, I'm a contractor, not an employee! 8^)

Not bad news, just life as I experience it. I interviewed for Unix and have
been doing WIndows 95. I'm sick of it. "Start me up..." also includes "Makes a
grown man cry"

I'll play with ya, Serenity. My primary lead that I'm #1 on the list for is
AKO so I'll be around I expect. I've been contracting in here since 88 and
that was almost 10 jos ago. If I go, I won't be far.
11.784BABAGI::LUSSIERWed Jan 31 1996 21:2410
Serenity dear,

  There's always someone here who'll come out to play !!!

   LFT:  CM news. You can always go over to the other side :-)))



Rich
11.785MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Jan 31 1996 21:271
I thought I was already on the DARK side of the source...
11.786BABAGI::LUSSIERWed Jan 31 1996 23:326

Not until you join the Q


Rich
11.787MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Wed Jan 31 1996 23:371
The Q Continuum? I wish 8^)
11.788MKOTS3::STARBRIGHTSerenityThu Feb 01 1996 16:454
    May the source be with you.
    
    
    and you, and you, and you, and you too.
11.789KERNEL::PLANTCToo much pooh!Thu Feb 01 1996 17:4910
    
    
    Best of luck with the new posting CM!!
    
    I know we have not heard the last of you!!:)))
    
    IN the words of Q:  "the trial never ended...."
    
    Chris
    :)
11.790MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Thu Feb 01 1996 18:255
And to go back into MPFC...

I'm not dead yet!

I've been stirring things up in ST conference as well 8^)
11.791KERNEL::PLANTCToo much pooh!Thu Feb 01 1996 18:416
    
    
    I'll check in shortly! :)))
    
    Chris
    :)
11.792MKOTS3::STARBRIGHTSerenityThu Feb 01 1996 19:061
    ST???
11.793MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Thu Feb 01 1996 19:082
Sorry, Chris and I frequent the Star Trek conference as well. There's been a
bit of television bashing going on over there and I applied some of my wit.
11.794WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMDown.... but not outFri Feb 02 1996 19:032
    
    LFT: People who leave their phones off the hook :-((((
11.795SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Feb 04 1996 21:027
    
    	LFT:
    
    	frozen throttles.
    
    
    chico
11.796KERNEL::PLANTCToo much pooh!Mon Feb 05 1996 12:267
    
    
    
    LFT That Chico seems to have the worst luck with cars and car problems
    
    Chris
    :)
11.797]SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Feb 05 1996 15:299
    
    
    	Nah, I don't have bad luck Chris. I expect this stuff when I buy
    cars for under $100. :) The fact that they even run is good news. :*)
    
    
    chico (backyard mechanic extrordinaire)
    
                                 
11.798<KERNEL::PLANTCThe trial never ended.....Mon Feb 05 1996 15:427
    
    
    
    wow!! for under a hundred..I reckon you got a bagain! ( aussie accent )
    
    Chris
    :)
11.799KERNEL::PLANTCThe trial never ended.....Mon Feb 05 1996 15:424
    
    
    
    set up for --->
11.800snarfy dealsKERNEL::PLANTCThe trial never ended.....Mon Feb 05 1996 15:433
    
    
    SNARF!
11.801MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Mon Feb 05 1996 18:047
LFT: Competing for most car problems with Chico. The Wagon has a dead fuel
pump or a frozen gas line (I'm hoping the later). The van had some shift
linkage let go as I was getting ready to use it instead. Rose's car has broken
door handle linkage on the passenger side. The same linkage broke in the wagon
door on friday 8^(

LFT: Mondays.
11.802KERNEL::PLANTCThe trial never ended.....Mon Feb 05 1996 18:086
    
    
    CM ..gotta use that gas-line antifreeze in cold weather!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.803SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Feb 05 1996 19:036
    
    
    	Eesh CM.....my heart goes out to you. Good luck...
    
    
    chico
11.804NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterMon Feb 05 1996 19:123
LFT:  It's FREEZING in here....brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....

Lola
11.805KERNEL::PLANTCThe trial never ended.....Mon Feb 05 1996 19:144
    
    
    
    Lola...take it to the Hot tub then! :)))
11.806NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterMon Feb 05 1996 19:164
Mmmm, excellent idea, Chris!!!!!!!!!

Lola
11.807CSLALL::BERGERONMon Feb 05 1996 19:425
    LFT: V.mail:
    
    
    
            S
11.808KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Mon Feb 05 1996 19:433
    Yeah but whose S...??
    
    Paula
11.809CSLALL::BERGERONMon Feb 05 1996 19:458
    Paula,
    
    	I always seem to catch Debbie away from her desk......
    
    
    
    
    				S:*)
11.810KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Mon Feb 05 1996 19:453
    Cos she's never AT her desk...
    
    Paula
11.811CSLALL::BERGERONMon Feb 05 1996 19:495
    Yes, Paula, I believe I found that out......
    
    
    
    				S:*)
11.812MPGS::REITHJim (MPGS::) Reith - DTN 237-3045 SHR3-1/U32Mon Feb 05 1996 20:307
>    CM ..gotta use that gas-line antifreeze in cold weather!

Even Auntie would freeze out there today 8^)

>    	I always seem to catch Debbie away from her desk......
    
Maybe she's screening her calls??
11.813IROCZ::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Tue Feb 06 1996 01:074
  LFT: The cold. It got down to -5 last night, and only made it to 15 or so
today.
  The first two times we had a cold wave this winter, it was sort of exciting.
Now it is getting "old".
11.814SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Feb 06 1996 02:0412
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	I think I'm coming down with a cold again! Arg!!
    
    	LFT2:
    	
    	my son has a sinus infection and his tonsils are inflamed. Poor
    kid's been sleeping all day.
    
    jim
11.815NAC::MANYA Stitch In Time Saves Blood LossTue Feb 06 1996 16:335
    lft:  Chico coming down with a cold AGAIN!  STOP IT.
    	  You poor thing, have Lisa whip up come chicken soup.
    
    lft:  Thermostats!
    
11.816MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Tue Feb 06 1996 16:361
Cold weather and sore knees. Is it spring yet?
11.817IROCZ::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Thu Feb 08 1996 00:114
>    lft:  Thermostats!
    
  What's wrong with thermostats? I can think of several things that can go 
wrong with them.
11.818NAC::MANYA Stitch In Time Saves Blood LossThu Feb 08 1996 00:123
    
    It doesn't work.
    
11.819MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Thu Feb 08 1996 17:095
LFT1: waiting...

LFT2: Sick kitties. One of ours has an abcess on a front leg. Tried to take it 
	to the vet yesterday but it hid too well. Found it behind a couch last 
	night. The abcess broke and it got caged to be taken this morning. 8^(
11.820KERNEL::PLANTCMake it so!Thu Feb 08 1996 17:1316
    
    
    
    hate to make a joke Cm...but:
    
    
    you know what they say, "Abcess makes the cat go honda"
    
    
    
    
    
    	O.k ..i know its bad...I'll go home now.
    
    Chris
    :)
11.821MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Thu Feb 08 1996 17:154
Chris!

If I wasn't worried so much about the cat, I'd laugh... <snigger> ok, I
laughed anyway. 8^)
11.822KERNEL::PLANTCMake it so!Thu Feb 08 1996 17:166
    
    
    I hope all goes well with the cat.
    
    Chris
    :)
11.823MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Thu Feb 08 1996 17:191
I hope it doesn't cost and arm and a leg 8^)
11.824KERNEL::PLANTCMake it so!Thu Feb 08 1996 17:237
    
    
    
    yes..that would be a Cat-astrophy!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.825NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterThu Feb 08 1996 18:364
LFT: hearing about CM's pussy's abyss...ohhh I mean abcess...  I hope it
     gets well quickly.

Lola
11.826MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Thu Feb 08 1996 18:394
11.827NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterThu Feb 08 1996 18:506
11.828KERNEL::PLANTCMake it so!Thu Feb 08 1996 18:518
11.829NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterThu Feb 08 1996 18:523
Chris....not even in a private forum...I *don't* go that way!

Lola
11.830MARVIN::TANGThu Feb 08 1996 18:534
Yes, great has to be taken as it's quite a sensitive...  :o)


H.
11.831MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Thu Feb 08 1996 19:124
> Not gonna touch that one!!!!!

I'm sure that would be the preference 8^)

11.832NAC::MANYA Stitch In Time Saves Blood LossThu Feb 08 1996 19:183
    
    there must not be any mods around today.
    
11.833KERNEL::WRIGHTDThu Feb 08 1996 19:193
    oh right - so everybody's keeping quiet for a reason?
    
    D
11.834MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Thu Feb 08 1996 19:221
I know, some of these will not last the day, I'm sure.
11.835QCAV02::RAVISHANKARAboutTimeIChangedThisFri Feb 09 1996 08:355
    
    LFT: notes that remain seen for a day but get hidden by the time I log
    	in... *8((((((( I wish someone would post them to me .... *8)
    
    Ravi.
11.836CHEFS::WARRENJWell, perhaps a little more! :-)Fri Feb 09 1996 12:327
    Ravi,
    
    They are really not worth reading - in my opinion they are offensive
    and some break the companies Policies and Procedures, therefore could
    not remain visible.
    
    Jackie
11.837QCAV02::RAVISHANKARAboutTimeIChangedThisFri Feb 09 1996 13:069
    
    Jackie,
    
    	I understand now... I was under the impression that they were notes
    written by some of our more regular prolific noters.... *8))))) but if
    they wer in the same vein as some of the recent ones that I read then I
    don't wann know... *8)
    
    Ravi.
11.838WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMThe Monster MashFri Feb 09 1996 14:1811
    
    LFT : feeling poorly... feeling paranoid... feeling down...
    
          in general NEGATIVE EMOTIONS :-((((
    
    
    
    
    
    
          Shell
11.839KERNEL::WRIGHTDFri Feb 09 1996 14:197
    it's temporary shell....you'll feel better soon!!
    
    keep smiling mate!!
    
    luv
    
    Deb
11.840MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Fri Feb 09 1996 14:551
    Paranoid?? Are you talking about me? I worry about that... 8^)
11.841KERNEL::WRIGHTDFri Feb 09 1996 14:579
    nope - you're NOT paranoid
    
    Yes - we're talking about you
    yes - we worry about you!!!...............whatcha gonna do about it
    like?? :-)))))
    
    luv
    
    Deb
11.842MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Fri Feb 09 1996 16:324
I'll wear my tinfoil hat so the aliens don't steal my brain and I'll hunch
down over in the corner of my office because I KNOW the terminal is watching
me. I can see it's glowing eye from everywhere. It just patiently hums it';s
merry little tune and waits...
11.843<KERNEL::PLANTCMake it so!Fri Feb 09 1996 16:537
    
    
    
    AHHH..another x-file fan!! :)))
    
    Chris
    :)
11.844MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Fri Feb 09 1996 17:114
You talking about ME?? 8^) Is everyone talking about ME??

We've had a guy in our town wearing tinfoil hats for a while. I don't watch
the X-files 8^)
11.845KERNEL::PLANTCMake it so!Fri Feb 09 1996 17:1311
    
    
    
    
    why not???
    
    Think Agent Scully!Schwing!!!
    
    
    Chris
    :) 
11.846MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Fri Feb 09 1996 17:151
Wrapped in tinfoil? Cling wrap maybe...
11.847KERNEL::PLANTCMake it so!Fri Feb 09 1996 17:164
    
    
    
    OOOer!
11.848POWDML::VENTURAKitties-Zero to nuts in 4 secs.Fri Feb 09 1996 18:533
    LFT:  Offensive people!!
    
    H
11.849WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMStrictly Speaking........Fri Feb 09 1996 18:587
    
    Holly !!!!!   how ya doing ????/
    
    
    
    
    Shell
11.850MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Fri Feb 09 1996 19:033
Yeah Holly, How are the "two of you"? 8^)

(hopefully a reason to move this to MFT 8^)
11.851SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Feb 11 1996 17:108
    
    
    	LfT:
    
    	not getting to bed until past 1am last night.
    
    
    chico
11.852OOYES::WEIERPatty, DTN 381-0877Thu Feb 15 1996 01:004
    
    LFT: Having an argument on Valentine's Day  )-:
    
    Hope tonight goes better ....!
11.853KERNEL::PLANTCMake it so!Thu Feb 15 1996 10:017
    
    
    Hope things went o.k for you Patty
    
    Hugs
    Chris
    :)
11.854KERNEL::WRIGHTDDream on......Thu Feb 15 1996 13:114
    LFT: People who interfere and wont stop!!!
    
    
    	Deb
11.855KERNEL::WRIGHTDDream on......Fri Feb 16 1996 17:523
    LFT:  Things happening outwith your control!!!
    
    	Deb
11.856MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Fri Feb 16 1996 17:551
Sorry to here that Deb. Just remember, that';s life. Control is an illusion
11.857MARVIN::TANGFri Feb 16 1996 18:065
My sympathise too Deb...  You really seem to be on a bit of an
emotional roller coaster today (up and down, loop-the-loop)...


H.
11.858KERNEL::WRIGHTDDream on......Fri Feb 16 1996 18:076
    thanks H - I think someone over the pond may be able to shed some light
    onthis situaiton......
    
    luv
    
    Deb
11.859WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMStrictly Speaking........Fri Feb 16 1996 20:116
    LFT : friends playing silly games with each other
    
    
    
    
    Shell
11.860Need some *good* newsNETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterMon Feb 19 1996 22:365
LFT: Steve's Dad is in the hospital as a result of having tia's.  Has anyone
     heard of these?  From what he explained, they're like mini strokes 
     although no damage is done to the brain.

	Lola
11.861SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Feb 20 1996 02:3614
    
    
    	TIA = transient ischemic attack
    
    	A mild form of a CVA (Cardio-Vascular accident or stroke). A
    CVA/stroke happens when an embolism clogs up an artery in the brain (or
    the victim has an anuerism....i.e.- the artery bursts) and a portion of
    the brain is damaged/dies. A TIA (transient ischemic attack) happens
    when the artery in the brain is temporarily clogged, but unclogs before 
    permanent damage occurs to the brain from lack of O2.
    
    	Hope this helps.
    
    	chico (EMT) 
11.862SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Feb 20 1996 15:139
    
    	LFT: 
    
    	CVAs (strokes). Tones went off at 3:30am for the ambulance. 37yr
    old male, possible stroke. When we got there he was on the toilet, not
    speaking, and his left side was paralyzed. Definite stroke. His son
    goes to school with my daughter....:*\
    
    chico
11.863KERNEL::WRIGHTDDream on......Tue Feb 20 1996 19:164
    lft: bad news.
    
    
    
11.864MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Wed Feb 21 1996 11:521
    LFT: Sinus colds. Went to bed at 7pm and got nothing done 8^(
11.865KERNEL::WRIGHTDDream on......Wed Feb 21 1996 12:406
    Paula - sorry about my note Re; thumping, didnt think,
    
    sorry babe.....
    
    
    Deb
11.866KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Wed Feb 21 1996 12:533
    Hey sweet - I wasn't getting at you at all..
    
    Paula
11.867CSLALL::BERGERONIn search of......Fri Feb 23 1996 00:547
    
    	LFT1:	A trip to the hospital and leaving work early because of it
    		:*(
    
    
    		S:*)
    
11.868POOKY::OROURKEI'm going to a land downunderFri Feb 23 1996 00:566
    
    LFT: Scott's news!
    
    Nothing serious I hope!
    
    /jen
11.869CSLALL::BERGERONIn search of......Fri Feb 23 1996 01:068
    
    Enough pain where I felt like dying.....Well, as you can tell I didn't.
    :*)
    
    	I think the pain was as bad as when I had shoulder surgery....
    
    
    	S:*)
11.870POOKY::OROURKEI'm going to a land downunderFri Feb 23 1996 01:098
    
    ouch!  Reminds me of a LFT when I parted my shoulder when hit with a
    basketball in gym class!
    
    Feel better soon!
    
    /jen
    
11.871SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Feb 25 1996 15:198
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	Calculus test this wednesday. I THINK I'm ready....%*}
    
    
    	chico
11.872KERNEL::WRIGHTDDream on......Mon Feb 26 1996 18:111
    LFT: sore throat 3 days after a good night out!!
11.873NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterTue Feb 27 1996 16:596
LFT: One sick kitty who has to go to the vets today, she really has me worried.

LFT2: One sore, dry, scratchy throat....Deb, did I catch this from you over
      the net????

Lola
11.874KERNEL::WRIGHTDDream on......Tue Feb 27 1996 17:025
    Lola!! - you never know!!
    
    luvandhugsandkisses
    
    Deb
11.875MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Tue Feb 27 1996 17:065
Oh no! The first reported case of a user catching a computer virus over the
net! Call the National Inquirer! After all, who is on the net the most but
those teenage boys, home sick from school, surfing for porn sites...

Come here, I'll do a clean boot 8^)
11.876NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterTue Feb 27 1996 17:1412
>Oh no! The first reported case of a user catching a computer virus over the
>net! Call the National Inquirer! After all, who is on the net the most but
>those teenage boys, home sick from school, surfing for porn sites...

Guess this'll get us in the Guiness book of records then, huh Deb??

>Come here, I'll do a clean boot 8^)

As long as you don't give me the boot!!!

Lola
11.877NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterMon Mar 04 1996 18:585
LFT: One very sick kitty.  It doesn't look good for Sabrina.

LFT2: Being sick myself.

Lola
11.878MARVIN::TANGMon Mar 04 1996 19:024
Hope your feeling much better now Lola...  :o)


H.
11.879MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Mon Mar 04 1996 19:075
That was earlier today, H...

Here's hugs for Lola and her cat. I know mine is taking the slow route to
improvement. He's taken to sleeping (by choice) in the carrier so he doesn't
have to worry about sneak attacks from the others.
11.880NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterMon Mar 04 1996 19:075
Thanks H., but I'm not...

Lola

11.881MARVIN::TANGMon Mar 04 1996 19:106
Sorry to hear that Lola...  :o(

Hope you get well soon...  :o)


H.
11.882WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMStrictly Speaking........Mon Mar 04 1996 19:408
    
    *hugs* Lola - get better soon ...
    
    
    
    
    
    Shell
11.883CHEFS::WARRENJYers,I'm getting sometingTue Mar 05 1996 14:203
    LFT: My holiday souvenier being a cold!
    
    Jackie
11.884KERNEL::PLANTCMake it so!Tue Mar 05 1996 15:084
    
    
    
    LFT: feeling the cold symptoms as well... :((
11.885KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue Mar 05 1996 20:083
    
    
    LFT: people being sad
11.886KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Tue Mar 05 1996 20:091
    Whose sad..??
11.887NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterWed Mar 06 1996 20:213
LFT: My almost 17 year old cat, Sabrina, had to be put to sleep last night. :-((

Lola
11.888KERNEL::PLANTCYou may get wet and possibly soaked!Wed Mar 06 1996 20:267
    
    
    sorry to hear that Lola, I know that is a tough thing to do!
    
    Hugs
    Chris
    
11.889MARVIN::TANGWed Mar 06 1996 20:287
Sorry to the bad news too Lola...  :o(

I take it that's 17 human years - that's a grand old age for a pussy
cat to reach...


H.
11.890POOKY::OROURKEI'm going to a land downunderWed Mar 06 1996 20:314
    
    LFT: Lola's news :(  
    
    /j
11.891KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Wed Mar 06 1996 20:465
    sorry to hear about your cat Lola.......
    
    hugs and luvs to you
    
    Debbie
11.892NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterWed Mar 06 1996 20:515
Thanks everyone....yes, it is a grand old age...about 84 in human equivalence.
She'll be greatly missed.

Lola
11.893POWDML::VENTURAKitties-Zero to nuts in 4 secs.Wed Mar 06 1996 21:225
    LFT:  Lola having to put Sabrina to sleep.  Lola, you did the best you
    could do for her.  Remember rainbow bridge!
    
    Holly
    
11.894POWDML::VENTURAKitties-Zero to nuts in 4 secs.Wed Mar 06 1996 23:365
    LFT:  stomach pains that take my breath away.  Going for an ultra sound
    tomorrow to be everything is ok.
    
    Holly
    
11.895CHEFS::WARRENJYes,Yes, I'm getting somethingThu Mar 07 1996 12:1410
    LFT:  Hearing about Lola's cat.  
    
    LFT: Holly's stomach pains.  Hope it turns out to be nothing - I've had
    a few this time round, fortunately, it turned out to be scar tissue 
    stretching from an old operation.
    
    
    Hugs to both of you.
    
    Jackie
11.896NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterThu Mar 07 1996 16:025
Thanks Holly and Jackie.  Hope your stomach pains are all gone by now, Holly.

Hugs,
Lola
11.897POWDML::VENTURAKitties-Zero to nuts in 4 secs.Thu Mar 07 1996 21:405
    LFT:  That they have adjusted my due date again.  This time two weeks
    later.  My due date is now September 7th.
    
    Holly
    
11.898MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Thu Mar 07 1996 21:422
But did they notify the baby of the schedule change? This date will change
throughout the pregnancy and yet the baby will determine his/her birthday.
11.899NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterThu Mar 07 1996 21:475
>But did they notify the baby of the schedule change? This date will change
>throughout the pregnancy and yet the baby will determine his/her birthday.


Unless the mommy decides to schedule a C-section and pick the day!!!!
11.900MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Thu Mar 07 1996 21:512
Yeah, our last was that way. The first two were emergency sections and then the
doctor caught on.
11.901NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterThu Mar 07 1996 23:567
That was a beautiful snarf, CM!!!

Lola

G/night folks,

I'm outta here!!!
11.902the kind of call you dread....SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Mar 10 1996 17:0435
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	friday morning, 10:30am. Scanner and ambulance pager go off in
    unison:
    
    	"Rutland fire to all EMTs, the ambulance is needed for a 5month
    old, possible code at ********".
    
    	I was just getting ready to take the wife to work, so I didn't get
    to go but we sat glued to the scanner listening to the conversations
    between dispatch and the ambulance. The one that killed me was this:
    
    	"27A to Rutland Fire"
    
    	"Go ahead 27A"
    
    	"Start ALS" (advanced life support)
    
    	"Well, they usually won't send anyone out in a storm....."
    
    	"WELL YOU BETTER GET SOMEBODY OUT HERE, WE HAVE A CODE FER CHRIST
    SAKE!"
    
    	"Received..."
    
    	
    	Last I heard they had intubated the 5month old boy. Still not
    breathing/no heartbeat by the time the ALS intercept reached them. I
    haven't been able to get this call off my mind all weekend. No word on
    if he made it or not.
    
    jim 
                         
11.903KERNEL::PLANTCWho ya gonna call? GHOSTBUSTERS!!!Mon Mar 11 1996 12:009
    
    
    Hey Holly, looks like your baba may arrive on ...yes ... LABOR DAY!!!
    :))))
    
    
    
    Chris
    :)
11.904MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Mon Mar 11 1996 13:3911
    Wow Chico, sorry to hear about that one. Was it SIDS or something else?
    
    LFT: Coming across a serious head on collision on Rt20 on the way home
    from flying yesterday. I have little doubt is was a multiple fatality.
    There was no car left ahead of the front seat. Scary part was it was a
    similar car to my son's so I was pretty concerned all the way back into
    town. He and his girlfriend were out in her car and his was home when I
    got there or it would have been a crazy, worrisome afternoon. 3 squads
    responded but I didn't hear Life Flight 8^(
    
    Jim
11.905MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Mon Mar 11 1996 14:506
Well, the accident made the front page of the Worcester paper. One dead, two
seriously injured. I got there right as the second police car was arriving.
Seems it was high school kids in the car that I thought might have been my
son's (not even the same manufacturer which says how bad it was). The road has
a rise and curve at that point and apparently they came over the hill in the
oncoming lane. The little white car probably didn't even have time to react.
11.906SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Mar 11 1996 15:185
    
    	Eeeks....head on collisions ain't fun. Glad it wasn't your son!
    
    
    
11.907MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Mon Mar 11 1996 15:211
Local high school kids none the less. Senseless.
11.908NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterMon Mar 11 1996 16:224
LFT: Such sad news, from both of you.  I hope the baby made it.  Very sad 
about the high school kids.  At that age you feel invincible.  

Lola
11.909SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Mar 11 1996 18:146
    
    
    	The baby died. I just found out this morning.
    
    
    
11.910KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Mon Mar 11 1996 18:241
    Oh no that is soooo sad 8-(
11.911MARVIN::TANGMon Mar 11 1996 18:281
That is sad news...  :o(
11.912MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Mon Mar 11 1996 18:502
    Terrible. I can't imagine the pain of it. My heart goes out to the
    parents
11.913CHEFS::WARRENJYes,Yes, I'm getting somethingMon Mar 11 1996 19:025
    Ditto the other folks comments.
    
    :-(
    
    Jackie
11.914SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Mar 11 1996 20:328
    
    
    	Tyler was his name. Tyler Baronowski. His parents have requested
    that all charitable contributions be sent to the Rutland Rescue Squad.
    Gad, this tugs at the heart strings something awful....
    
    
    
11.915CSLALL::BERGERONIn search of......Tue Mar 12 1996 18:5410
    
    
    LFT: Having my supervisor change my schedule to:
    	
    	6 days a week, tweleve hours every other day.....
    
    
    
    
    	S
11.916SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Mar 12 1996 20:184
    
    	ick....
    
    
11.917KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue Mar 12 1996 20:403
LFT:    being in a ratty mood.........
    
    Deb
11.918SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Mar 13 1996 00:253
    
    
    	{smooch}
11.919FIXER::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Wed Mar 13 1996 14:234
    LFT:   peoples inexplicable behaviour....
    
    
    Deb
11.920SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Mar 13 1996 15:015
    
    
    	wot, you didn't like my {smooch}? I'm crushed....:*(
    
    
11.921FIXER::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Wed Mar 13 1996 15:067
    I lurved ya smooch
    
    but that next note wasnt in reference to you ye bampot!!
    
    Why did ya put it in the LFT topic, or am I missing something here?
    
    Deb
11.922FIXER::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Wed Mar 13 1996 15:075
    ok, ok,.........I see it now.....
    
    Im just being REALLY slow today!!
    
    Deb
11.923SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Mar 13 1996 15:196
    
    
    	phew...I feel better now. ;*)
    
    
    chico
11.924FIXER::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Wed Mar 13 1996 15:205
    sorry about that Chico!!
    
    luvsandhugstoyababe!
    
    Deb
11.925SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Mar 13 1996 15:215
    
    
    	ahhhh....ya gives me the warm and fuzzies deb....:)
    
    
11.926FIXER::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Wed Mar 13 1996 15:223
    Im glad babe
    
    Deb
11.927MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Wed Mar 13 1996 16:171
Hearing about the senseless tragedy and violence going on in Scotland today.
11.928WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMStrictly Speaking........Wed Mar 13 1996 16:217
    
    14 dead children in a Scottish primary school - it just doesnt make any
    sense to me.
    
    
    Michelle
    
11.929KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Wed Mar 13 1996 16:223
    Why are they dead..??
    
    What happened..??
11.930MARVIN::TANGWed Mar 13 1996 16:232
Sorry folks, I seemed to have missed this one...  What
happened exactly?
11.931WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMStrictly Speaking........Wed Mar 13 1996 16:318
    
    A gun man ha burst into a primary school in dunblane killing 14
    children and a teacher (children 5-6year olds) then killed himself. 12
    other children are believed to be injured.
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.932KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Wed Mar 13 1996 16:326
    Oh god this is outrageous....
    
    What is this world coming too.... why little kids.. innocent people...
    is sooo sad...
    
    Paula
11.933NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterWed Mar 13 1996 16:337
I heard about this on the radio on the way to work, but didn't hear where
it happened, not that that makes any difference.  A terrible tragedy,
why don't these kooks just kill themselves and leave everyone else alone?

Lola

11.934MARVIN::TANGWed Mar 13 1996 16:425
I'd agree with everyone else, this is really tragic, and
even more so because the victims were all so young... :o(


H.
11.935WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMStrictly Speaking........Wed Mar 13 1996 16:5710
    
    LFT: Although this seems minor in light of what has happened today -
         my dog sheba has a tumour and has to be operated on tommorrow. I'm
         so uptight about it :-((
    
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.936KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Wed Mar 13 1996 17:084
    Oh no Shell..... that's sad too... no tragedy is any less sadder then
    another....
    
    Just give her lots of cuddles...
11.937WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMStrictly Speaking........Wed Mar 13 1996 17:096
    
    Thanks Paula..  I'm Sooooooo worried about her :-((
    
    
    
    Shell
11.938SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Mar 13 1996 17:195
    
    
    	re: Scotland
    
    	Oh my gawd.....
11.939KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Wed Mar 13 1996 17:224
    Shell.... at least once they have operated she'll be more comfortable..
    she must be abit uncomfortable at the moment...
    
    Paula
11.940MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Wed Mar 13 1996 17:252
Well, our prayers are out there for Sheba as well as the families of these
little victims. Seems to be stress week.
11.941WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMStrictly Speaking........Wed Mar 13 1996 17:328
    
    Another two children have died. The whole world seems to be sick.
    
    
    
    
    
    Shell
11.942FIXER::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Wed Mar 13 1996 17:409
    Thinking of all the children that have died in Scotland today.
    
    Having lost someone very close in Scotland some years back 
    in circumstances very similar, my heart goes out to all the parents 
    and families of these poor children.
    
    This is so upsetting.
    
    Debbie
11.943I was unable to get to CNN but Lola did - ThanksMPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Wed Mar 13 1996 17:5573
Here's the story...

03/13/96 - 09:36 AM ET - Click reload often for latest version

Gunman kills 16 children, 1 teacher in Scottish school

DUNBLANE, Scotland - A gunman burst into a Scottish elementary school
Wednesday and opened fire on a class of kindergartners in a gymnasium,
massacring 16 children and one teacher. 

At least 12 other children and one adult were wounded in the 10 a.m. attack
in Dunblane, a 13th-century cathedral town on the edge of the Scottish
Highlands. 

Frantic parents gathered outside the 700-pupil Dunblane Primary School,
some sobbing, others clutching their children and crying with relief. 

One mother pushing a stroller ran to the school to pick up her children as
other women ran beside her. Another mother held the hands of a young boy
and girl, leading them away from the school. 

"This is a slaughter of the innocents, unlike anything we have ever seen in
Scotland and I think Scotland is going to have to come to terms with it," said
Helen Liddell, a Scottish member of parliament with the opposition Labor
Party. 

The shooting shocked this village of 9,000 people 40 miles from Edinburgh.
Guns are much more difficult to obtain in Britain than in the United States,
and massacres such as this are rare. 

First reports said the two adults killed at the school were teachers, but local
reporters later said one of the adults was the gunman. 

Thirteen children were killed at the school, and three more died in the
hospital, police said. 

Rumors of the gunman's identity flashed round the town, and several
residents said they believed they knew his name. 

Local resident Wilma Brown said she believed he was a loner in his 40s who
had run a soccer club in the town and was well-known in the area. 

"I can't believe it has happened," she told Sky News. 

Police sealed off main roads into the town, and an air ambulance flew in
from Prestwick, 60 miles southwest, to fly casualties to Stirling, five miles
away. 

The town's five doctors were summoned to the school. A dozen ambulances
raced into the town. 

It was Britain's worst shooting since 27-year-old Michael Ryan, an
unemployed loner and gun enthusiast, shot 16 people, then killed himself in
the quiet market town of Hungerford in August 1987. 

While parents raced to the school, people gathered in shops and pubs as
news of the shooting spread. 

"People are absolutely devastated," said Richard Castillo, owner of the
Stirling Arms pub. 

"I just can't believe what sort of sick person would do this sort of thing,"
said Yvonne Nelson, 38, whose children go to Dunblane High School a mile away.
"It's just an ordinary country school with friendly teachers and kids." 

Prime Minister John Major learned of the massacre while at a world
summit on terrorism in Cairo, Egypt. 

"No words can express the shock and sorrow ... at this mad and evil act," he
said. 

By The Associated Press

11.944NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterWed Mar 13 1996 17:598
CM,

Actually I got it from USA today...world news section.

H., I'm doing O.K., hanging in there.  Hi Shelley, Paula and Craig!!!

Lola

11.945MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Wed Mar 13 1996 18:072
Well, our web proxy is down at the moment so I was unable to get out to find it
anywhere. Thanks.
11.946KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Wed Mar 13 1996 18:126
    Hi Lola..
    
    That is sooo bad...  running a Soccer club too, he obviously knew alot
    of kids, what possessed him to do that...
    
    Paula
11.947POWDML::VENTURAKitties-Zero to nuts in 4 secs.Wed Mar 13 1996 18:1515
    RE: the gunman in scotland.
    
    I think the man on the radio said it best.  He killed 16 children, one
    teacher, and then shot himself.  Why don't these idiots just shoot
    themselves first??
    
    It's so tragic.
    
    I'm very sorry to hear about Sheba too.  I know what it's like to have
    a sick animal and be so worried about them.  I just went through this
    last week with a cat who had fibroid tumors and cysts on her ovaries. 
    Poor baby.  But she feels MUCH better now!
    
    Holly
    
11.948MARVIN::TANGWed Mar 13 1996 18:166
The Michael Ryan story instantly sprang to mind when I first
heard about this...  No doubt, there are psycological
parallels to be drawn here between these 2 gunmen...


H.
11.949MPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Wed Mar 13 1996 18:273
And with him killing himself, the reason may not be known where he was a loner.

s a parent, these reports always tear at you.
11.950Here's the latest report off CNNMPGS::REITHreith@racores.com - Have subroutine, will travel.Wed Mar 13 1996 21:0777
Gunman kills 17 in Scottish school

     March 13, 1996
     Web posted at: 12:25 p.m. EST (1725 GMT)

     DUNBLANE, Scotland (CNN) -- Sixteen kindergarten children and one teacher
were killed by a gunman who opened fire in a Scottish primary school Wednesday
morning. The gunman then shot and killed himself.

     Thirteen children were killed instantly. Three more died later in a
hospital, police said.

     The massacre is the worst in British history by a lone gunman.

     At least 12 other children and one adult were reported injured. A
five-year-old boy remained in critical condition with gunshot wounds to his
chest. The gunman burst into Dunblane Primary School's gymnasium hall about
9:30 a.m., when 29 children, all ages five and six, were attending class
there. He opened fire with four handguns, said Chief Constable William Wilson.

 Unconfirmed reports said the gunman tried taking the group hostage before he
open fired. A motive was not immediately known.

 "This is a slaughter of the innocents, unlike anything we have ever seen in
Scotland," said Helen Liddell, a Scottish member of parliament.

  British Prime Minister John Major added, "This is a sick and evil act. It
almost passes belief." 

 Panic-stricken parents rushed to the school as news of the massacre spread.
Many searched frantically for their children; parents who found their
     children bear-hugged them, tears rolling down their faces.

     "I just can't believe what sort of sick person would do this sort of
thing. It's just an ordinary country school with friendly teachers and kids,"
said parent Yvonne Nelson.

     "You never think it is going to happen to you," said Brian Owen as he led
his boy away from the school. "All our thoughts are with the parents whose
children have been killed or injured."

     Police were called in from throughout the area and the five doctors in
Dunblane, a village of about 9,000 people on the edge of the Scottish
Highlands in Perthshire, were summoned to the school.

     Sadie Hunt, a spokesperson for Sterling Royal Infirmary, where most
children were taken, said many of the injured children were undergoing
emergency surgeries.

 None of the identities of the victims or that of the gunman has been
released, said Constable Wilson. Police are still trying to notify some of the
victims' parents.

 Rumors of the gunman's identity spread through the town, and local resident
Wilma Brown said she believed he was a loner in his 40s who had run a soccer
club in the town and was well-known in the area.

     "I can't believe it has happened," she told Sky News.

     The death toll is the worst massacre in British history by a lone gunman.
In 1987, Michael Ryan, 27, shot 16 people and then killed himself in a quiet
British market town.

     Sky News quoted one child who was in another classroom as saying the
children heard seven or eight "cracks." Their teacher then told them to get
under their desks until she found out what was going on.

     Dunblane Primary School is attended by about 700 children between the
ages of 5 and 11. It is the largest primary school in central Scotland. Other
than those who go to a local church school, all children in Dunblane attend
the primary school, said Patricia Greenhill, head of the local authority in
the area. 

     Greenhill described the community as a place where everyone knows each
other. Wednesday's incident, she said, "will affect the whole area."

     The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report. 
11.951SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Mar 13 1996 22:075
    
    
    	I feel ill....
    
    
11.952KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue Mar 19 1996 13:193
    LFT:  stabbing pain above my eyes for 3 days now......
    
    	Self diagnosis: sinus trouble.    Jeez!
11.953KERNEL::PLANTCBeam me up Scotty!Tue Mar 19 1996 13:397
    
    
    did Scott nail your head to the coffee table again??
    
    
    Dinsdale
    :)
11.954KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue Mar 19 1996 13:423
    yea - in a manner of speaking!!
    
    Deb
11.955KERNEL::PLANTCBeam me up Scotty!Tue Mar 19 1996 13:483
    
    
    but he was always fair!! :))))
11.956KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue Mar 19 1996 13:581
    Im lost Chris!!
11.957KERNEL::PLANTCBeam me up Scotty!Tue Mar 19 1996 14:0812
    
    
    its a Monty Python sketch...
    
    interviewing people associated with Dinsdale Piranah of the 
    Piranah brothers.
    
    He used to nail people's head to the coffee table but he
    was considered to be fair by these same people.
    
    Chris
    :)
11.958KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue Mar 19 1996 14:122
    with you now!!!
    
11.959KERNEL::PLANTCBeam me up Scotty!Tue Mar 19 1996 14:335
    
    
    re -1
    
    Huh???
11.960KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue Mar 19 1996 18:201
    LFT: being peeved off and angry!
11.961KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Tue Mar 19 1996 18:321
    Why are you feeling this way..??
11.962WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMKangaroos in the top PaddockTue Mar 19 1996 18:408
    
    Debs - tell doctor Shell...
    
    
    
    
    
    
11.963KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue Mar 19 1996 18:413
    oh it's terrible Shell
    
    it really hurts too
11.964KERNEL::PLANTCBeam me up Scotty!Tue Mar 19 1996 18:4213
    
    
    
    does it hurt when you do that?
    
    
    
    
    
    	then don't do that!!
    
    Dr. Spock
    ;|
11.965KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue Mar 19 1996 18:503
    Chris - do ya have a medical degree or sumink?
    
    Deb_Depressed!
11.966KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Tue Mar 19 1996 18:513
    I have a spatula...
    
    Paula
11.967KERNEL::PLANTCBeam me up Scotty!Tue Mar 19 1996 18:588
    
    
    yes I have a *doctorette in thinkology
    
    Chris
    :)
    
* female version of doctor
11.968MARVIN::TANGTue Mar 19 1996 19:015
I know someone who has a Master's in, umm, what's that stuff
called you use in fly fishing...  :o)


H.
11.969KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue Mar 19 1996 19:013
    hooking?
    
    Deb
11.970KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Tue Mar 19 1996 19:033
    Maggots...??
    
    Paula
11.971KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue Mar 19 1996 19:041
    urgggggghhhhh!!
11.972MARVIN::TANGTue Mar 19 1996 19:064
> Maggots...??

Which are know as the ...?  :o) 

11.973MARVIN::TANGTue Mar 19 1996 19:071
know = known
11.974KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Tue Mar 19 1996 19:073
    the ......
    
    Paula
11.975MARVIN::TANGTue Mar 19 1996 19:071
bait
11.976KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Tue Mar 19 1996 19:083
    so your friend has a degree in baiting..??
    
    INTERESTING
11.977MARVIN::TANGTue Mar 19 1996 19:111
Absolutely, and a Master's in that subject too...  :o)
11.978KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Tue Mar 19 1996 19:113
    Right..
    
    Paula_very_confused..
11.979MARVIN::TANGTue Mar 19 1996 19:121
You're trying to get me to put it all together aren't you...  :o)
11.980KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue Mar 19 1996 19:131
    yes please!!
11.981KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Tue Mar 19 1996 19:153
    Yes please cos I am very confused...
    
    paula
11.982MARVIN::TANGTue Mar 19 1996 19:162
I'm not falling for that one...  I know you know what I'm on
about...  :o)
11.983KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Tue Mar 19 1996 19:163
    Well I don't..
    
    Paula
11.9840;-)CHEFS::WARRENJYes,Yes, I'm getting somethingTue Mar 19 1996 19:315
    Jackie gets ready to grab her mods hat and looks sternly at H!
    
    ;-)
    
    Ms_Innocent!
11.985MARVIN::TANGTue Mar 19 1996 19:421
Which was the offending note...?  :o)
11.986KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Tue Mar 19 1996 19:423
    JAckie tell me then if you know..
    
    Paula_baffled..
11.987MARVIN::TANGTue Mar 19 1996 19:431
I haven't said anything (it's all implied)...  :o)
11.988KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Tue Mar 19 1996 19:483
    Yeah by YOU...
    
    Paula
11.989KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue Mar 19 1996 20:031
    lft: not keeping in touch.
11.990WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMKangaroos in the top PaddockTue Mar 19 1996 20:238
    
    that last LFT of debs goes double for me..... :-(((
    
    
    
    
    
    Shell
11.991CSLALL::BERGERONIn search of......Wed Mar 20 1996 01:035
    Here Deb, <------(Touch)...
    
    
    
    S:*)
11.992KERNEL::PLANTCBeam me up Scotty!Fri Mar 22 1996 16:358
    
    
    
    LFT: head count for our group to be chopped by 2 :((((
    
    
    Chris
    
11.993SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Mar 24 1996 16:385
    
    	feeling like crap today. :*P Sore throat and sore muscles...blech.
    
    
    	chico
11.994KERNEL::PLANTCBeam me up Scotty!Mon Mar 25 1996 12:136
    
    
    Hope you're feeling better today Chico!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.995KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Mon Mar 25 1996 19:081
    LFT: Being sad ALL the time....
11.996KERNEL::PLANTCBeam me up Scotty!Mon Mar 25 1996 19:399
    
    
    
    are you sad ALL the time Deb?
    
    Here's a HUG for ya!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.997KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Mon Mar 25 1996 19:401
    thanks Chris...
11.998SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Mar 31 1996 17:5322
    
    
    	LFT: last weeks schedule. It went something like this:
    
    	Sunday: Work until 5pm, nearly pass out in FAB. Get sent home by
    the nurse at 7pm.
    	Monday: Still sick and feeling a bit worse. Take day off.
    	Tuesday: Feeling even worse! Very dehydrated, stomach hurts quite a
    bit. Take another day off.
    	Wednesday: 3am - doubled over in pain. Wake up wife and have her
    drive me to the emergency room. Blood (and other stuff) taken for
    testing, IV started, admitted to hospital.
    	Thursday: 7000Ml's of saline later, I'm free to leave the hospital.
    Diagnosis - no idea. All they could find was a case of strep throat
    which doesn't accord for the stomach problems.
    	Friday: rest and recouperate.
    	Saturday: Put new passenger side drive shaft in wife's car (took me
    6hrs). 
    
    	ack....
    
    chico
11.999MARVIN::TANGWed Apr 10 1996 15:4513
11.1000snarf!SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Apr 10 1996 16:228
    
    
    	LFT: 
    
    	this conference being gone for so long! Jeez...it seemed like
    forever!
    
    chico
11.1001KERNEL::PLANTCMmmmmmm Chocolate!!! Doop!!!Wed Apr 10 1996 17:239
    
    
    
    Hello folks!!
    
    we're back!!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1002MARVIN::TANGWed Apr 10 1996 17:474
<--- and that's an LFT...!   :o)


H.
11.1003KERNEL::PLANTCMmmmmmm Chocolate!!! Doop!!!Wed Apr 10 1996 17:576
    
    
    oops!!! :))))
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1004NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterThu Apr 11 1996 21:343
LFT: breaking up :-(((

Lola
11.1005CHEFS::WARRENJdevil in disguiseThu Apr 11 1996 21:396
    
    LFT: Lola's LFT.  :-(
    
    Hugs!
    
    Jackie
11.1006Not a good way to start the dayCHEFS::WARRENJdevil in disguiseFri Apr 12 1996 12:423
    LFT: Terse voicemail messages.
    
    Jackie
11.1007KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Fri Apr 12 1996 15:365
    VLFT:   People thinking that you have the answers to everything and
    demanding that you do something about it NOW!
    
    
    	Deb_considerably_stressed!
11.1008KERNEL::PLANTCMmmmmmm Chocolate!!! Doop!!!Fri Apr 12 1996 15:427
    
    
    You're only human Deb!! Never mind!!
    
    Hugs
    Chris
    ;)
11.1009KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Fri Apr 12 1996 15:549
    thanks Chris........Im calming down slightly.......
    
    
    ut's an ongoing problem I think......
    
    never mind, Ive sitll got my health, things cant be all THAT bad!
    
    
    Deb
11.1010All washed off now!CHEFS::WARRENJdevil in disguiseFri Apr 12 1996 20:164
    LFT: Dropping chocolate buttons on my dress and not realising until the
    choccy had melted.
    
    Jackie
11.1012KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Fri Apr 12 1996 21:414
    godd game eh?
    
    
    Deb_giggling
11.1013My humble VT340..CHEFS::WARRENJdevil in disguiseFri Apr 12 1996 21:428
    
    Stretch,
    
    What type of terminal/keyboard are you using?  I just use the 'paste'
    key (one above enter on the right hand side) which gives me the notes
    I've not seen before...after setting the conference SET SEEN
    
    Jackie
11.1015SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Apr 14 1996 18:308
    
    
    	stretch,
    
    	on a VXT-2000 (also what I use) the next-unseen key is the "," key
    on the keypad (two keys down from "PF4"). Try it...you'll like it. :)
    
    jim
11.1016KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Sun Apr 14 1996 19:134
    LFT: people making your decisions for you, (normally the wrong ones),
    and you landing in hot water for them!
    
    Deb_Peeved!
11.1017CHEFS::WARRENJdevil in disguiseMon Apr 15 1996 17:356
    LFT: Hearing that my cousins daughter got rushed into hospital on
    Tuesday evening in a fit, she is currently parylysed down one side of her
    body,..she's only in her early 20's
    
    
    Jackie
11.1018KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Mon Apr 15 1996 17:396
    thats sad Jackie,..
    
    lets hope things improve soon.
    
    
    Deb
11.1019SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Apr 15 1996 17:535
    
    
    	my prayers are with her Jackie.
    
    
11.1020CHEFS::WARRENJdevil in disguiseMon Apr 15 1996 17:577
    Thanks guys!
    
    Joanne's had problems with these since she was 16 and needed an op for
    a brain tumor (some of the longer :FRIENDS noters may remember we've
    had problems with this before) but this is the worst.
    
    Jackie
11.1022KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue Apr 16 1996 13:015
    lft:  Had a cramping stomach for 2 days now, always in the same place,
    hopefully it'll pass without me having to take time off sick!
    
    
    Deb
11.1023KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue Apr 16 1996 16:011
    lft: being craggy.
11.1025POWDML::VENTURAI'm not fat, I'm pregnant!Tue Apr 16 1996 23:4311
    LFT:  Lola's LFT... HUGS!!
    
    LFT2:  A friend's little girl is currently at schriner's burn hospital. 
    Has been there since Friday morning.  Evidentally, he put a hot cup of
    coffee on the kitchen table, turned away to get the sugar, and she got
    a hold of the coffee and it spilled on her.  Second degree burns on her
    face, neck, and shoulder that will need to be skin graphed.  The poor
    little thing is only 20 months old!
    
    Holly
    
11.1027It takes brains...NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterWed Apr 17 1996 00:554
LFT:Hearing about that poor burnt babe.  Hope she heals up soon.  What's the
    matter with some adults, leaving a burning hot cup of coffee within reach?

Lola
11.1028POWDML::VENTURAI'm not fat, I'm pregnant!Wed Apr 17 1996 00:587
    Lola.. trust me, her father feels VERY bad about this.  He didn't LEAVE
    it within reach.  He had it right next to him and turned to get the
    sugar off of the same table.  It took her MAYBE 2 seconds to get the
    coffee.  Toddlers are just VERY fast.
    
    Holly
    
11.1030NETCAD::DREYERGet me off this rollercoasterWed Apr 17 1996 18:496
Oh Holly, what a horrible way for a parent to learn.  All it does take is a 
second.  There have been so many horror stories about toddlers getting into
nail polish remover, liquor, etc. in the second that an adult had turned away.
You can't take your eyes off the child!

Lola
11.1032kids will experiment, no matter whatCHEFS::WARRENJdevil in disguiseWed Apr 17 1996 20:179
    
    Sorry to hear about the little one, Holly.  Parenting *is* difficult
    - you can't really keep your eyes on a child 100% of the time.  I got
    the shock of my life once when I found Kathryn had managed to climb
    onto a kitchen work surface because she wanted something from a high
    cupboard..fortunately we switch off and unplug all kitchen appliances
    to minimise the danger factor.
    
    Jackie
11.1033CHEFS::WARRENJdevil in disguiseThu Apr 18 1996 19:476
    LFT: Headaches
    
    LFT2: Not being able to access the conference.  Any one else had
    problems today?
    
    Jackie.
11.1034PCBUOA::OROURKEDoes anybody really know what time it is?Fri Apr 19 1996 19:078
    
    LFT:  Seeing all the scars that remain one year after the OKC bombing.
    
    Justice moves slow...
    
    but faith heals
    
    /jen
11.1036KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Fri Apr 19 1996 19:2112
    well, I have to confess to something..::FRIENDS..
    
    My future sis-in-law has upset me very much over teh last 4 years, and
    today was the last time, and I was planning to have it  out with her
    tonight, in any way I felt like, but the previous note brought me to my
    senses, do I shall try the sensible thing first: discussion.
    
    
    I feel really bad.  I shall try and keep my cool...
    
    
    Deb
11.1040OTOOA::CLESTERSat Apr 20 1996 00:359
    
    
    Stretch......conference usually dies on a Friday afternoon......the
    folks over the pond are already at the pub.....the folks over here
    are usually trying to clean up everything for the weekend.....
    
    
    C
    
11.1041But I don't want to go on the cart!SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sat Apr 20 1996 23:1513
    
    
    	LFT:
    	
    I'm sick again! This is the same thing that put me in the hospital last
    time. Let's hope I can avoid getting any IV fluids this time.
    
    	LFT2:
    
    	I had to miss a rifle match I'd been planning on attending for the
    past two months! I REALLY hate being sick....:*(
    
    chico
11.1042FABSIX::K_KAMARSun Apr 21 1996 19:445
    LFT:  Winter weather, rap & country music, violence, injustice, racism,
          religious fanatism, soap operas, fanatical vegetarians  and
          other  " super health freaks ".....etc.
    
                       *** Kit ***
11.1043KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Mon Apr 22 1996 14:539
    lfT: being very nasty to someone in response cos they werent fast
    enough in doing their job.............tut, tut Deb
    
    jeez, I know what my prob is, my doc. took some blood this morning, and
    I get really cranky afterwards, dont know why.....
    
    Anyway, thats my excuse and Im sticking to it!
    
    Deb_feeling_lethargic!
11.1044Cream Crackered !!!!!!!!!!VYGER::HAMILTONSWhat's up ?...........YOU !!Mon Apr 22 1996 18:2515
    Aloha !
    
    I have loads of least favourite things, but just when you mentioned 
    feeling lethargic it struck a chord with me. You know, I always feel
    the same after brekky and lunch, it's caused by all the blood going
    away from your head to other parts of the body, where it's needed more.
    
    It's pants, because I always want to push out out some zeds, but I
    can't.
    
    
    
    ZzZzZzZz........ZzZzZzZzZz........ZzZzZzZz.....
    
    							Scott H.
11.1045PCBUOA::OROURKEDoes anybody really know what time it is?Mon Apr 22 1996 20:476
    
    LFT:  Only 11 days till my oral surgery.
    
    I just wish it was over already!
    
    /jen
11.1046PCBUOA::OROURKEDoes anybody really know what time it is?Tue Apr 23 1996 19:083
    
    VLFT: Wen's news about Magic.  :(
    
11.1047Slaves, that's what we are....12726::TANNEREverythingsGonnaBeQuiteAlrightWed Apr 24 1996 17:174
    
    LFT:  Having all your friends/coworkers sold.
    
    :(
11.1049SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Apr 24 1996 20:055
    
    
    	We're all just slaves to the grind...:)
    
    
11.1053deja-what?SMURF::WALLACELife's a beach, then you dive!Wed Apr 24 1996 22:122
    Hey, a philosophy class.  And me looking for the meaning of life.
    I guess you CAN find it all on the net.
11.1054PCBUOA::OROURKEWild Izzy gets the Gold!Wed Apr 24 1996 22:198
    
    LFT:  That Stretch obviously didn't hear about that jerk manager that
    worked (or may still work) at Digital that DID have a whip in the
    office.    He seemed to think it was funny....glad most normal folks
    saw him for what he is.
    
    /j
    
11.105512726::TANNEREverythingsGonnaBeQuiteAlrightThu Apr 25 1996 00:435
    
    LFT:  That I ever used the word Slave in my note.  Gee folks, lighten
    up. 
    
    
11.105712726::TANNEREverythingsGonnaBeQuiteAlrightThu Apr 25 1996 16:368
    
    I didn't apologize.  I only stated that it was a least favorite thing
    that I started such a controversial rathole.  I was in no way sorry
    that I entered the note, only feeling sorry for the folks that feel
    they must twist and argue every comment made in a note that was
    intended to put across a personal feeling.  
    
    Wen
11.1059KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Fri Apr 26 1996 16:3110
    LFT1:    People being horrible for no reason.
    
    
    	Gonna keep my head down and so some work.
    
    
    	Catch you guys later.
    
    
    	Deb
11.1061prayers out to victims & familiesPCBUOA::OROURKEWild Izzy gets the Gold!Mon Apr 29 1996 06:366
    
    VLFT:  The looney tune going crazy over in Tasmania and killing at
    least 32 people.  :(   Seems no place is immune.
    
    /jen
    
11.1062QCAV02::RAVISHANKARAboutTimeIChangedThisMon Apr 29 1996 08:364
    
    VLFT: same as /jen's..... Its in papers here this morning.... *8(
    
    Ravi.
11.1063SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Apr 29 1996 15:256
    
    
    	Yep, 29yr old male went wacko. Disgusting. Hopefully the punishment
    will fit the crime.
    
    
11.1064more on oz tragedyPCBUOA::OROURKEWild Izzy gets the Gold!Mon Apr 29 1996 17:5644
    
    
    
    
    Here's a description I got from a friend in OZ.  :(
    
Hi Jen,

It's a very sad day down here today. This man (as if he could even be called 
that), has left the entire nation shattered. 

We expect that the Prime Minister will call a national day of mourning for 
later this week with a minutes silence for the 35 confirmed dead and 19 
injured, 4 of them gravely ill.

At about 8:40 this morning after spending the night holding three hostages 
in a Guesthouse B & B, the gunman set fire to the building. Three minutes 
later he ran out with his clothes on fire. He was doused and was ferried to 
Royal Hobart General Hospital by helicopter. The man is 29 year old
Martin Bryant, unemployed, non licensed gun freak, and a schitzophrenic. He 
is hospitalised in the same hospital as his victims, under guard by the 
Police and the Army.

The hostages were found later burnt to death in the ruins. The police and 
fire dept couldnt get near the Guesthouse because the ammunition (estimated 
to be 5,000 rounds) was still going off long after
the main fire had subsided ..... whilst the intense heat remained.

Amoungst the dead was a young mother with her two daughters aged six and 
three. Thier father had elected to play tennis for the day and wasnt there. 
How will he ever recover from this ?

Port Arthur once a horrid and brutal penal colony between 1830 and 1874, has 
relived its past in the most sickening way. Many Australians will never get 
over this tragedy. Our news carries the story every half an hour
with the latest .... many of the dead are still in the cafe at thier seats 
as if still eating thier lunch.

Sleepy Tasmania and the rest of Australia lost it's virtue and innocence 
yesterday afternoon at 1:35pm.

Pete

11.1065WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMWicked Witch of the N.WMon Apr 29 1996 18:199
    
    My heart goes out to all the people affected by this monstrous act. Is
    the world going mad ????
    
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.1066The U.S. went thru this in the 1960'sIROCZ::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Tue Apr 30 1996 21:435
  Australia is going thru what the U.S. went thru 30 years ago. At that time,
after decades of relative tranquility, we had a series of unspeakably horrible
crimes over a period of several years.
  No place in the world is entirely safe from this sort of thing. Australia
has been very lucky to have gone this long before this sort of thing happened.
11.1067NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Tue Apr 30 1996 22:485
The U.S *went* through this in the 60's?  Seems like it's still going through it
now.  What about the Oklahoma bombings last year, Waco etc.??

Lola 
11.1068SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Apr 30 1996 23:2610
    
    
    	terrible things happen all the time, it's just that they don't
    always make the news. Witness the ethnic cleansing in
    Bosnia/Herzegovina.  The amount of people killed there is much larger
    than the amount killed in oz, yet you don't here but a tidbit of that
    in the news. The news only prints stuff that's sensational enuff to
    sell....it's big business and nothing more.
    
    jim
11.1069Hmm, can I share this snarf??NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Wed May 01 1996 20:367
LFT: Waiting.



SNARF!!!

Lola
11.1070POWDML::VENTURAI'm not fat, I'm pregnant!Wed May 01 1996 23:523
    LFT:  Turning 30.. I'm getting old!!
    
    
11.1071KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Fri May 03 1996 13:477
    LFT1:  My mum just called and told me that Ross is being admitted to
    	hospital AGAIN after his doctors appointment this morning.
    
    	When will all this end?
    
    
    
11.1072WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMWicked Witch of the N.WFri May 03 1996 14:0912
    
    Debs - hope everything is okay - positive vibes heading to Ross now :-)
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
    
    
    
    
    
11.1073KERNEL::PLANTCA song..played on a solo saxaphone..Fri May 03 1996 14:127
    
    
    
    Hope everything is alright Deb..what's the problem?"
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1074KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Fri May 03 1996 14:198
    Chris, its a problem thats been ongoing since he was born, but I
    thought we'd got through the worst of it, now it looks like surgery
    either today or Monday.
    
    
    Mind you, ask Paula, he's a tough little kid...!!!
    
    	Thats whatmakes him sooo loveable....
11.1075MARVIN::TANGFri May 03 1996 14:486
Aww, poor little Ross...

Hope everything sorts itself out for ya Deb...


H.
11.1076KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Fri May 03 1996 14:526
    Deb sweet.... I'm sorry to hear this.... as you say when will it
    end..?? 
    
    But he's a fighter.. he'll be fine...
    
    Paula
11.1077KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Fri May 03 1996 14:534
    thanks guys......
    
    
    Deb
11.1078KERNEL::PLANTCA song..played on a solo saxaphone..Fri May 03 1996 14:596
    
    
    we'll be praying for both of you Deb!
    
    Chris
    
11.1079PCBUOA::OROURKEWild Izzy gets the Gold!Fri May 03 1996 17:586
    
    Deb,
    
    You'll both be in my thoughts!  
    
    /jen
11.1080NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Fri May 03 1996 20:276
Deb,

Best of luck.  I hope Ross is better really soon.  Hugs, prayers and positive
energy going out to both of you.

Lola
11.1081It ain't easy!NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Mon May 06 1996 23:083
LFT: Having to wait *so* many days to see my new friend.

Lola
11.1082WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMWicked Witch of the N.WTue May 07 1996 15:309
    
    LFT: Hospitals. I have to go in for the day 28th May for more
    exploratory stuff but they're gonna knock me out for this round :-(
    
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.1083SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue May 07 1996 16:138
    
    	eeks, good luck shell. I have to have some more blood work this
    week and make an appointment for some exploratory stuff myself. :*{
    I know my white blood cell count will be high from this cold, but
    that's the least of my worries.
    
    
    chico
11.1084KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue May 07 1996 16:539
    yes Chris - you can!
    
    But I thought that "something" was wrong with that accent that I
    heard!!!
    
    But it was good!1  :-))
    
    
    Deb_back_from_lunch
11.1085WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMMan Utd - Champions AgainTue May 07 1996 18:2611
    
    LFT: Just hearing Ann's gonna be out on short-term disability.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.1086KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue May 07 1996 18:274
    I hope shes ok..
    
    
    	Deb
11.1087KERNEL::PLANTCA song..played on a solo saxaphone..Tue May 07 1996 18:289
    
    
    
    Ann? 
    
    Ann who? the possibilities are endless.
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1088WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMMan Utd - Champions AgainTue May 07 1996 18:2910
    
    Ann Many Chris...
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Sheley
11.1089KERNEL::PLANTCA song..played on a solo saxaphone..Tue May 07 1996 18:316
    
    
    What's the matter with her?
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1090WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMMan Utd - Champions AgainTue May 07 1996 18:3310
    
    Shes having problems with her knees again and got a note from her
    doctor saying she had to come out of work and it could be for some
    time.
    
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.1091KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue May 07 1996 18:339
    Ray...........u r doing my head in!!!!!
    
    
    Talk some form of English please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    ha!ha!
    
    Deb_vewy_cheeky!!!
11.1092KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Tue May 07 1996 18:363
    Oh dear Shell.. are you ok..???
    
    Paula
11.1093MARVIN::TANGTue May 07 1996 18:4811
Shell & Chico,

Good luck at the docs...



And speedy rocovery wishes to Ann...



H
11.1094KERNEL::PLANTCA song..played on a solo saxaphone..Tue May 07 1996 19:1210
    
    
    All my best wishes to all of you requiring medical attention!
    
    Choc just had a tooth pulled this morning...so best wishes to her
    
    as well! :)))
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1095These are two of my least favorite things...CSCMA::GEDDISChampion of the FREEDOM OF SPEECHFri May 10 1996 03:155
    LFT1: Not knowing whether or not I'm training myself out of a job!!!
    
    LFT2: Having to actually WORK for my money!!! :-)))
    
    STRETCH
11.1096KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Fri May 10 1996 18:593
    LFT1: losing fone connections!!
    
    bugs the heck out of me!!!!!!!!!!!
11.1097CHEFS::WARRENJI am....Mon May 13 1996 14:235
    LFT: Hearing about Ross and Shelley hospital visits.  
    
    Hope all works out OK!
    
    Jackie
11.1098POWDML::VENTURAI'm not fat, I'm pregnant!Tue May 14 1996 19:134
    LFT:  Kidney stones.. ouch!!
    
    Holly
    
11.1099POOKY::OROURKEWild Izzy gets the Gold!Tue May 14 1996 19:459
    
    LFT:  Missing out on the ticket sales for the Eagles concert this
    summer.   They went on sale without me knowing it while I was away in
    OHIO!
    
    LFT2:  Sinus / ear  infection / inflamations as a result of my oral 
    surgery.   More drugs coming up!
    
    /jen
11.1100/jen - Get Well Wishes...CSCMA::GEDDISChampion of the FREEDOM OF SPEECHTue May 14 1996 20:007
    LFT: A dear Friend suffering from physiological problems!
    
    STRETCH
    
    PS - /jen: I hope you're feeling better soon!!! (How's the drugs???
    Willing to sell any?!?!? <hehehe>
    
11.1101All these people leaving...IVOSS1::PIGGOTTWed May 15 1996 05:1611
    LFTs....
    
    ...my manager being laid off on Monday.
    
    ...a very dear friend in Salt Lake City being laid off on Monday.
    
    ...two great program managers handing in their letters of resignation.
    
    Is this roller coaster ever going to be over?
    
    Shi
11.1102SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed May 15 1996 15:428
    
    
    	sorry to hear about all the losses over there Shi....it's nasty all
    around. Lots of our good people are leaving us over here too, but at
    least it's of their own accord. Doesn't sound like that's the case
    where you are.
    
    	chico 
11.1103Why can't we all just get along???CSCMA::GEDDISChampion of the FREEDOM OF SPEECHWed May 15 1996 17:4011
    LFTs: People not having much control over their professional and
    financial futures...Companies that value the bottom line over the
    achievements of their employees...The devaluation of the individual and
    interpersonal relationships...The degradation of the deluge of conditions
    that people have to live in under no control of their own...That
    mankind, in general, hasn't yet reached a level of maturity where we
    can set aside everything that separates us and live as one unified
    species that values differences, communicates effectively, compromises
    willingly, and makes concessions.
    
    STRETCH
11.1104SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Thu May 16 1996 00:455
    
    
    	thanks for that ray of sunshine Stretch. :)
    
    
11.1105CSCMA::GEDDISChampion of the FREEDOM OF SPEECHThu May 16 1996 01:033
    No problem!!! :-)))
    
    STRETCH
11.1106KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Thu May 16 1996 16:316
    LFT1: trying to please everyone all the time, and STILL getting
    	a bad reaction!!!  :-(
    
    
    
    	Deb
11.1107NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Thu May 16 1996 19:1511
Deb,

Just please yourself!!!

To make this "legal":

LFT: Allergies...my eyes keep weeping and my throat feels as if someone
ran a wire brush up and down it repeatedly.

Lola
11.1108KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Thu May 16 1996 19:238
    oh Lola!!
    
    get well soon mate!  :-))
    
    *hugs* from me!
    
    
    Deb
11.1109NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Thu May 16 1996 20:376
Thanks Deb!!!  Once all this pollen goes away I'll be fine!

LFT: Pollen

Lola
11.1110ByeNETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Thu May 16 1996 20:533
LFT: Time to get back to it....

Lola
11.1111This has gotta be some sort of...CSCMA::GEDDISChampion of the FREEDOM OF SPEECHThu May 16 1996 20:561
    			SNNAAARRRRFFFFF!!!!!!
11.1112Don't "mess" with me or mine!CHEFS::WARRENJThats Mrs Plant, actually!Fri May 17 1996 18:056
    I'm not given to violence, but.....
    
    LFT: People who do such stupid things which make me want to poke their
    eyes out!
    
    Jackie
11.1113KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Fri May 17 1996 18:078
    I know exactly how you feel Jackie, my problem is that I usually would
    poke their eyes out!!
    
    hope you're doing fine mate!!
    
    lotsaluv
    
    Deb
11.1114CHEFS::WARRENJThats Mrs Plant, actually!Fri May 17 1996 18:096
    Deb,
    
    Yeah, I'm ok..just a tad on the angry side with a particular individual
    who behaves like a child.
    
    Jackie
11.1115CSCMA::GEDDISChampion of the FREEDOM OF SPEECHFri May 17 1996 18:277
    Jackie...
    
    I'm sorry for actin' like a child!!! :-(((
    
    <hehehehe> I hope it's not REALLY me!!! :-)))
    
    STRETCH
11.1116KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Fri May 17 1996 18:365
    keep ya chin up Jackie!!!
    
    
    
    Deb
11.1117SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon May 20 1996 17:319
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	that full feeling after pigging out at my brother's graduation
    party yesterday. I'm sure the beers helped to fill me up too...;*)
    
    
    chico
11.1118KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Mon May 20 1996 17:411
    LFT: finding out that someone wont be visiting after all....
11.1119WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMEverything in ModerationMon May 20 1996 19:598
    
    LFT: Being off sick and not getting any pay - which gives another LFT:
    no being able to do the things you want cos you cant afford to :-((
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.1120KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Mon May 20 1996 20:081
    I know exactly how you feel Shell, its a bummer at times - init?
11.1121WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMEverything in ModerationMon May 20 1996 20:108
    
    More than - and to top it all its costing six poounds a day in Taxi
    fares now we've moved to this building - I think I may have to start
    lokking elsewhere :-((
    
    
    
    Shell
11.1122CSLALL::BERGERONIn a Blaze of GloryMon May 20 1996 21:1530
    
    LFT: Being Pissed Off !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    	at bill collectors........... 
    
    
    
    	S
11.1123WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMEverything in ModerationMon May 20 1996 21:1710
    
    Well Scott - we've got something in common !!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.1124CSLALL::BERGERONIn a Blaze of GloryMon May 20 1996 21:186
    Sorry, to hear that is the common part :*(
    
    
    
    
    S
11.1125WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMEverything in ModerationMon May 20 1996 21:196
    
    Well its definitely an LFT for both of us !!!!!
    
    
    
    Shell
11.1126KERNEL::PLANTCA song..played on a solo saxaphone..Mon May 20 1996 21:207
    
    
    
    LFT= Long Furry Tail??
    
    Chris
    :))
11.1127CSLALL::BERGERONIn a Blaze of GloryMon May 20 1996 21:218
    I am so p
    QEWFEBA;>DKDFBGKhjawgfdijWAGDKWQGDFHJKQGWFIHJQWGFDIJQGWDFJIASGDFIJGDUwdigga.
    
    
    	I was looking forward to this for a long time...Now some bill
    collector has balls enough to come and destroy
    that.........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
11.1128WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMEverything in ModerationMon May 20 1996 21:2311
    
    I'm really sorry to hear that Scott.  If i win the lottery I'll shout
    you a trip over - howz that !!!
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Shell
11.1129KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Mon May 20 1996 21:234
    thats nice Shell.........bad news - huh Scott?
    
    
    Deb
11.1130CSLALL::BERGERONIn a Blaze of GloryMon May 20 1996 21:246
    It's not just that....Debs is pissed at me.....\
    
    
    
    
    S
11.1131KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Mon May 20 1996 21:241
    put my life on that fact!
11.1132WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMEverything in ModerationMon May 20 1996 21:2410
    
    
    
    Nah - I dont think so - not at you just at the situation (and the bill
    collectors) ;-)
    
    
    
    
    Shell
11.1133Let's have a REPO REVOLUTION!!!CSCMA::GEDDISPeople Everywhere Are Created EqualMon May 20 1996 21:257
    I see the weather over here in New England isn't the only thing
    reaching record proportions...
    
    I think Bill Collectors are loathed the world over!!! I say we get rid
    o' 'em all!!!
    
    STRETCH
11.1134KERNEL::PLANTCA song..played on a solo saxaphone..Mon May 20 1996 21:254
    
    
    
    but who's gonna collect the bill collectors? :)))))
11.1135CSLALL::BERGERONIn a Blaze of GloryMon May 20 1996 21:252
    Yes, Stretch, where do we meet?
    S
11.1136WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMEverything in ModerationMon May 20 1996 21:269
    
    
    OOh what a good idea.... I think thats should go in the MFT - STRETCH's
    idea to rid the world of Bill Collectors..
    
    
    
    
    Shell
11.1137KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Mon May 20 1996 21:261
    Im quite calm-natured under the circumstances....
11.1138There's Gonna Be A Revolution...CSCMA::GEDDISPeople Everywhere Are Created EqualMon May 20 1996 21:296
    If everybody co-operated and we bartered, Bill Collectors needn't be
    necessary...
    
    STRETCH
    
    PS - I'll try to keep only one foot on the soapbox, k? :-)))
11.1139KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue May 21 1996 18:374
    Im boooooooooooooooooored!!!
    
    
    going off for a wander I think.....
11.1140POWDML::VENTURAI'm not fat, I'm pregnant!Tue May 21 1996 20:047
    LFT:  Having a massive infection in one of my teeth.  Tooth already had
    a root canal, so they had to extract it yesterday. )-:
    
    LFT2:  Serious pain!  So bad that it keeps you from sleeping!
    
    Holly
    
11.1141WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMEverything in ModerationTue May 21 1996 20:0511
    
    
    LFT people in pain.... *HUGS* to Holly..
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.1142KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue May 21 1996 20:181
    lft: ruffling someones feathers without intention to do so....
11.1143KERNEL::PLANTCA song..played on a solo saxaphone..Tue May 21 1996 20:2016
    
    
    
    re -1
    
    did you fluff someone's down filled pillows?
    
    
    oh and Holly amazing how you lamazonians all tend to have dental
    problems and extractions at the same time!!!!
    
    Chris
    :)
    
    
    
11.1144CSCMA::GEDDISPeople Everywhere Are Created EqualTue May 21 1996 20:259
    re -2
    
    That's ok, Debs...
    
    You can ruffle my feathers ANYTIME!!!!!! <sly smile>
    
    WOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! :-)))
    
    STRETCH 
11.1145KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue May 21 1996 21:121
    lft:     not knowing whats happening from one day to the next.......
11.1146STRETCHG???CSCMA::GEDDISPeople Everywhere Are Created EqualTue May 21 1996 21:165
    Debs,
    
    	That's a fairly common problem.. I sympathize with ya, babes!!!
    
    STRETCHG
11.1147KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue May 21 1996 21:431
    lft: feeling so sad, that I wanna cry.....
11.1148KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Tue May 21 1996 21:441
    Why..?
11.1149If ya eva needa shoulder...I've gots two waitin'!!! :-)))CSCMA::GEDDISPeople Everywhere Are Created EqualTue May 21 1996 22:295
    BIG ***HUGS*** to Darlin' D!!!
    
    Don't forget we're here for ya, babes!!!
    
    STRETCH
11.1150CSCMA::GEDDISPeople Everywhere Are Created EqualTue May 21 1996 23:274
    LFT: Hearing an echo off the walls of the hallowed halls of a once
    lively and conversive conference...
    
    STRETCH
11.1151I've to go back tomorrow - again! :-(CHEFS::WARRENJThats Mrs Plant, actually!Wed May 22 1996 17:406
    Sorry to hear about your tooth, Holly.  Hope the pain is subsiding.
    
    We seem to be experiencing similar things in our pregnancies - the
    co-incidence is weird!
    
    Jackie_also_under_dental_care.
11.1152Co-worker's sick...My hours've been adjusted...CSCMA::GEDDISPeople Everywhere Are Created EqualThu May 23 1996 01:4211
    VVLFT: A co-worker of mine went into the hospital for some tests. It
    seems that she was "on the verge of a stroke", according to our
    manager. As a result, she's been admitted. She'll probably be out for
    the rest of the week...
    
    STRETCH
    
    PS - My hours have been adjusted. I'll be working 11am to 7pm EST for
    the rest of this week. Therefore, the Across-The-Ponders'll be denied
    the pleasure of my company except for a brief moment at the end of
    their days. I'll be readin' ya and respondin' when I can!
11.1153WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMEverything in ModerationThu May 23 1996 16:489
    
    LFT: Not hearing from CM yet when I know he had to make an Unscheduled
    trip to the hospital yesterday afternoon....
    
    
    
    
    
    Shell
11.1154KERNEL::PLANTCA song..played on a solo saxaphone..Thu May 23 1996 17:416
    
    
    Is CM o.k Shell?
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1155WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMEverything in ModerationThu May 23 1996 17:4612
    
    
    Yep - just got mail from him now.. he was having double vision
    yesterday and when he phoned the Doctors they made a same day
    appointment at the hospital for him, he was rather worried. They didnt
    find any cause though and his eyesight is back to normal today. hhe has
    to have his blood sugar tested again tommorrow though..
    
    
    
    
    Shell
11.1156KERNEL::PLANTCA song..played on a solo saxaphone..Thu May 23 1996 17:506
    
    
    hmmmm hope everything is alright with ConjunctitusMan
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1157BABAGI::LUSSIERThu May 23 1996 23:1110

And CM thought doing it would only make himself go blind !! :-))))

Rich

  LFT  : Holly and Jackie in pain 

          Debs feeling down 

11.1158POWDML::VENTURAI'm not fat, I'm pregnant!Fri May 24 1996 22:424
    LFT:  dry socket, and having to have the socket where my tooth was
    removed packed AGAIN.
    
    H
11.1159POOKY::OROURKEWild Izzy gets the Gold!Fri May 24 1996 22:578
    
    LFT:  Holly's dental woes.  :(
    
    My sinus/ear is still infected and painful from my dental surgery...and
    the stitches are now offically three weeks old!
    
    /jen
    
11.1160IVOSS1::PIGGOTTThu May 30 1996 01:159
    LFT....
    
    
    ...having the chicken pox for the third time in my life...isn't there a law
    against this sort of thing? :(
    
    
    Shi
    
11.1161SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Thu May 30 1996 01:475
    
    
    	bummer Shi...hope you feel better soon.
    
    chico
11.1162QCAV02::RAVISHANKARAboutTimeIChangedThisThu May 30 1996 09:448
    
    LFT: Shi getting Chicken Pox again.... You're right Shi there aught to
    	be a law against it... twice is rare enuff.. but thrice surely
    	beats them all.
    
    Ravi.
    *8)
    
11.1163MFGFIN::VASQUEZThu May 30 1996 09:463
    Hello Ravi, how are you doing today?
    
    JC
11.1164Get Well, Shi!!NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Thu May 30 1996 18:083
LFT: Shi's having chicken pox again.  Hope you're better soon!

Lola
11.1165Drat, DRat and 2X(drat)!JULIET::ROYERback again, see you laterThu May 30 1996 19:3512
    LFT::Shi_Chicken.pox;3
    
    Well, Kissy-kissy that should make it better... if not a
    
    
    
    POWER HUG (tm)
    
    Sorry kid, those things are buggers... well I guess you will not get
    small pox for sure.
    
    Dave
11.1166I really, REALLY HATE people like that!!! GRRRRRR! :-<!CSCMA::GEDDISPeople Everywhere Are Created EqualThu May 30 1996 22:455
    LFT: A new Contractor who started last week coming in and thinking
    he's one of our Bosses! (Issuing out "assignments", giving indirect
    orders, etc.) THE NERVE OF SOME PEOPLE'S CHILDREN!!!
    
    STRETCH
11.1167THEMAX::VASQUEZThu May 30 1996 22:493
    refer to what I told Deb a while back.
    
    JC
11.1168IVOSS1::PIGGOTTFri May 31 1996 01:3111
    Thahks for the nice thoughts and hugs folks...my doc said that I am
    oneo fhtose rare folks that never really get over the chicken pox...but
    that they just go into remission...and spontaneous come back it appears
    every ten years.  At least this round wasn't as bad as previous
    experiences!
    
    LFT...
    
    ...having to wait to fly home until tomorrow...I want to go home today!
    
    Shi
11.1169KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Fri May 31 1996 01:329
    Shi, hope ya feel better soon....
    
    thinking of ya mate...
    
    
    lotsahugs
    
    
    Deb
11.1170THEMAX::VASQUEZFri May 31 1996 01:333
    Good luck Shi
    
    JC
11.1171CSCMA::GEDDISYou GET what you GIVE!!!Fri May 31 1996 01:363
    My best wishes are with you, Shi!!!
    
    STRETCH
11.1172SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Jun 02 1996 17:318
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	crapping returns on stock this time around. Oh well, I'll take a
    little profit over no profit at all.
    
    chico
11.1173I wanna nap!AKOMI1::OROURKENever, Ever Tease a WeaselSun Jun 02 1996 18:596
    
    LFT:  Having a bad cold bordering on bronchitus just when I have SOOO
    much to get done...
    
    /jen
    
11.1174Get well John!!NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Mon Jun 03 1996 17:387


LFT: John is sick.  I think it would really cheer him up if folks sent him
     a get well message at SCOMAN::HAWKINS...

	Lola
11.1175KERNEL::PLANTCA song..played on a solo saxaphone..Mon Jun 03 1996 17:476
    
    
    who is John????
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1176But don't tell anyone!!NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Mon Jun 03 1996 17:483
John is my new honey!

Lola
11.1177KERNEL::PLANTCA song..played on a solo saxaphone..Mon Jun 03 1996 17:506
    
    
    Hope he feels better real soon Lola!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1178NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Mon Jun 03 1996 18:094
Thanks Chris, so do I!!

Lola
11.1179Get better, Jackie!!!NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Mon Jun 03 1996 18:125
LFT: Hearing Jackie is in pain.  

*Hugs*'
Lola

11.1180POOKY::OROURKENever, Ever Tease a WeaselTue Jun 04 1996 19:454
    
    LFT: Having bronchitus! :(
    
    /jen
11.1181KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Tue Jun 04 1996 19:466
    och /jen!!!
    
    hope ya feel better soon mate!
    
    
    Deb
11.1182KERNEL::PLANTCA song..played on a solo saxaphone..Tue Jun 04 1996 19:4811
    
    
    
    /jen I thought they were extinct!! :)))
    

    
    
	sorry to hear about the Bronchitis..I got diagnosed with 
       asthma this year....but I only feel it badly when i get
       a normal cold...just feels alot worse!!
11.1183POWDML::VENTURAI'm not fat, I'm pregnant!Tue Jun 04 1996 20:343
    LFT:  Kidney pain.. back again.. )-:
    
    H
11.1184WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMMore than all the world.....Tue Jun 04 1996 20:367
    
    
    *HUGS* & PP&E to you Holly... hope it goes away REALLY soon.
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.1185THEMAX::VASQUEZWed Jun 05 1996 08:555
    LFT
    
    		saying goodbye
    
    JC
11.1186MFGFIN::VASQUEZWed Jun 05 1996 10:0611
    2nd LFT
    
    `	Not being able to talk to anyone.
    
    3rd LFT
    
    	being bored
    
    JC
    
    p.s. I'm sorry, I'm not in a good mood
11.1187SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Jun 05 1996 16:194
    
    	Hey dood, I'm here...!:)
    
    
11.1188NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Wed Jun 05 1996 23:346
LFT: Hearing /jen and Holly are under the weather...get better soon.
     I feel for you /jen, I just got over bronchitis...only to get some kind of
     itchy rash this week.  Scratch...scratch...

Lola    

11.1189KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Thu Jun 06 1996 13:262
    Lft: having problems typing with my left hand, it just doesnt want to
    move!  :-(
11.1190KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Thu Jun 06 1996 14:481
    lft: headache...
11.1191KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Thu Jun 06 1996 16:531
    Debs is in a strop....BIGTIME
11.1192KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Thu Jun 06 1996 16:541
    Why
11.1193KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Thu Jun 06 1996 16:541
    cos I am.........
11.1194KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Thu Jun 06 1996 16:556
    
    
    Just because no one knew the waterboys?? :)))))
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1195KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Thu Jun 06 1996 16:575
    dont be naff Christopher!
    
    
    Its cool, I aint in a strop now.........you just made me giggle with
    that comment Chris!!  :-))
11.1196KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Wed Jun 12 1996 17:443
    lft:1, peoples attitudes!
    
    lft:2, acid indigestion!
11.1197WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMJe ne sais pas.....Mon Jun 17 1996 12:4212
    
    
    
    LFT: Another huge bomb planted by the IRA. thank god no-one was killed.
        Colleagues, friends and family were all in Manchester at the time.
    
    
    
    
    
        Shell
    
11.1198KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Mon Jun 17 1996 12:456
    Shell
    
    It's outrageous isn't it, what is wrong with these people...
    My thoughts are with everyone who was affected...
    
    Pol
11.1199KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Mon Jun 17 1996 16:191
    LFT:  Not hearing from Craig for a long time.......:-(
11.1200LFTMKOTS3::STARBRIGHTMon Jun 17 1996 18:234
    Motorcycle Weekend marred by 3 deaths. One bike was doing 100+ miles
    and hour in the wrong lane. Killed two bikers, one passenger, all from
    out of state.
    
11.1201SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jun 17 1996 18:267
    
    
    	Sorry to hear that Serenity. That kind of stuff tends to mar the
    good things that happen.
    
    
    chico
11.1202SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jun 17 1996 18:2911
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	5 killed in a tractor-trailer vs. car accident on I290 in
    Worcester/Auburn. 3 children and their grandparents. They were parked
    in the breakdown lane of the highway when the semi slammed into them
    from behind. Driver is claiming he was having a reaction to insulin
    (he's diabetic). 
    
    	chico
11.1203KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Mon Jun 17 1996 18:304
    That's outrageous, if that's the kind of reaction you get he shouldn't
    be driving or doing anything similar when taking the medication..
    
    Pol
11.1204SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jun 17 1996 18:3817
    
    
    	Well, to be fair to the guy, it's tough controlling your diet when
    you're a diabetic. Even the most experienced diabetic can slip up and
    have an "episode". What happens most is that a diabetic will take their
    insulin, but then forget to eat. Insulin needs sugar to allow it to
    permeate the blood. Without that sugar diabetics go into insulin shock
    or ketoacidosis. A person experiencing ketoacidosis will appear
    intoxicated and have a fruity smell about their breath. 
    
    
    	If this guy is telling the truth then he will probably be let go.
    But, I think living with the pain of having killed 5 innocent people
    would be enough to drive me over the edge....
    
    
    chico
11.1205KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Mon Jun 17 1996 18:448
    My dad is diabetic and insulin dependant and has been for 20 years.
    
    	He drives and does everything that everyone else does.  He has
    	never had a "hypo" when driving, and diabetics have questionnaires
    	each year asking for latest medical reports on their condition in
    order to decided wether they should keep their license or not.
    
    Deb
11.1206WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMJe ne sais pas.....Mon Jun 17 1996 19:2114
    
    
    
    LFT: just received a phone call to say my cousins father is dying. As
    my cousin lives here in england and her dad is in New Zealand shes
    catching the next available flight out - unfortunately thats not til
    wednesday morning and she doesnt know if she'll be there in time to say
    goodbye to him. P&PE required please.......
    
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.1207KERNEL::JOHNSONPCertified sane....October 1993Mon Jun 17 1996 19:213
    Thought are with you & ya family  Shell..
    
    Pol
11.1208NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Mon Jun 17 1996 19:367
Shell,

I hope with all my heart that your cousin can make it over there in time to say
goodbye to her dad.

Hugs,
Lola
11.1209SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jun 17 1996 19:376
    
    
    	good luck to your cousin Shell....I'll say a prayer for you all.
    
    
    chico
11.1210KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Mon Jun 17 1996 19:576
    
    
    All our best wishes that your cousin make it over in time.
    
    Chris
    
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I don't know if anyone saw 60 minutes last nite but there was what I found to be
a rather disturbing story.  Apparently *lots* of companies have been spying on
their employees email!  The story went on to say that something like over 1/3 of
the companies interviewed (I don't remember if it was CIOs) said they regularly
monitor both email and voicemail.

There was a case of a woman who called her boss some names in a message to a
friend and later was shown a copy of that same message by her boss, along with
copies of EVERY message she had ever written!  She was later fired, sued and
lost the case.  The bottom line is anything you do on company assests is
property of the company. 

The major theme of the story was to inform the public at large that it was
possible to get at this information (apparently a lot of people are being told
since their mail is password protected nobody can ever see it). That shouldn't
be any surprise to anyone in this conference, but if it is - SURPRISE!  When I
think about all the past conversations in here about privacy, I thought it
might be something people might want to talk about in more detail.


11.1212SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jun 17 1996 21:108
    
    
    	Just a friendly reminder that you are probably being
    watched/recorded. Don't say anything here that you wouldn't like to
    have presented at an open meeting.
    
    
    	chico
11.1213NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Mon Jun 17 1996 21:143
Why is it so quiet here suddenly?!!

Lola
11.1214SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jun 17 1996 22:146
    
    
    	could be because of .1211....;*)
    
    
    
11.1215CSCMA::GEDDISTakin' life one WEEKEND at a time!Mon Jun 17 1996 22:584
    Lola: It could also be becuase the UK's gone home and a lot of the
    Americans don't seem to be Noting as often...
    
    STRETCH
11.1216NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Mon Jun 17 1996 23:167
Yup Chico,  I was referring to your note!!!

STRETCH...just a little attempt at humor!

If they're reading my mail I imagine they're getting pretty hot...

Lola
11.1217SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jun 17 1996 23:265
    
    
    	LOLA! {gasp}
    
    :)
11.1218Someone help that man...fast!!!NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Mon Jun 17 1996 23:303
CHico...do you need some CPR??????

Lola
11.1219SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jun 17 1996 23:316
    
    	get the defib machine and put the paddles on my temples. 300joules
    please....:*)
    
    
    	chico
11.1220I need a massage!!!NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Tue Jun 18 1996 00:323
LFT: One very sore neck...slept on it wrong.

Lola
11.1221just call me "mr. magic fingers"...ask terrie..:)SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jun 18 1996 02:575
    
    
    	c'mere darlin'....
    
    
11.1222What I'd give for a good massage right now...NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Tue Jun 18 1996 20:477
>    	c'mere darlin'....
 
Wish I could, Chico!

Lola   
    

11.1223SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jun 18 1996 23:376
    
    
    	I'll give you a raincheck then.
    
    
    chico
11.1224This is a MFT now!!!NETCAD::DREYERwho wrote the game of love?Wed Jun 19 1996 02:205
>    	I'll give you a raincheck then.
 
All right!!!!!

Lola
11.1225KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Wed Jun 19 1996 19:501
    arguing with my best friend!!
11.1226CSCMA::GEDDISOne person CAN change the world!Wed Jun 19 1996 21:365
    Re: -1
    
    Debs: 'Bout what, babe???
    
    STRETCH
11.1227POWDML::VENTURALove's a kitten, my heart is stringThu Jun 20 1996 01:003
    LFT:  finances
    
    
11.1228SUBPAC::SADINFreedom isn't free.Thu Jun 20 1996 02:119
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	A good tech in here being given a load of cr*p for an honest
    mistake.
    
    
    chico
11.1229KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Thu Jun 20 1996 13:181
    LFT:  Things that arent anymore!
11.1230Cheer up girlfriend!NETCAD::DREYERI need a vacation!!Thu Jun 20 1996 17:353
LFT: Seeing Deb hurting.

Lola
11.1231KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Thu Jun 20 1996 18:153
    Thanks Lola!
    
    Deb_smiling_again
11.1232KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Thu Jun 20 1996 18:174
    LFT::::::::People, who just do NOT listen to what they are being told, 
    and waste a lot of peoples time in the process!!!!!!!
    
    
11.1233KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Thu Jun 27 1996 13:561
    LFT:, not feeling well today.......:-(
11.1234ratsJULIET::ROYERJeg forstar ikke!Thu Jun 27 1996 19:068
11.1235KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Thu Jun 27 1996 19:564
    thanks Dave!!  
    
    
    Deb_feeling_better!
11.1236KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Thu Jun 27 1996 21:043
    LFT: being let down by people you thought you knew...
    
    	its not just sad, it hurts tooo
11.1237CHEFS::HANDLEY_II got you all in check!Fri Jun 28 1996 14:116
    
    Hell, it's fact of life.  That's why I've come to be very casual about
    beating my friends.
    
    
    I.
11.1238KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Fri Jun 28 1996 14:191
    nice approach I
11.1239KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Fri Jun 28 1996 14:233
    
    
    Have you been approaching Deb Ian? 
11.1240CHEFS::HANDLEY_II got you all in check!Fri Jun 28 1996 14:254
    
    Only in a very casual way.
    
    
11.1241Off to Reno for the day at 5 pm.JULIET::ROYERJeg forstar ikke!Fri Jun 28 1996 19:528
11.1242KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Fri Jun 28 1996 19:574
    Dave - thanks.....I am looking forward to the weekend......
    
    
    Deb_still_swooning!
11.1243CHEFS::HANDLEY_IGit Par ExcellanceMon Jul 01 1996 14:257
    
    LFT:  My contract expires tomorrow, but the offers of a job haven't
    been flooding in as expected.  I may have to wait TWO DAYS!!!!
    
    
    
    I.
11.1244KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Mon Jul 01 1996 15:456
    
    
    You're not out the door tomorrow are ya? :(
                                              ,
                                             ,
                                              ,
11.1245CHEFS::HANDLEY_IGit Par ExcellanceMon Jul 01 1996 15:587
    
    Fraid so.  My contract was shortened because my project was canned by
    the governemt.  I'll probably be back though, Digital just Luuurve
    contractors.  Don't get fired and I'll probably be around for a chat
    before long.
    
    I.
11.1246FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jul 01 1996 17:386
    
    
    	hope yer back soon there Ian! good luck to ya...
    
    
    chico
11.1247CHEFS::HANDLEY_IGit Par ExcellanceMon Jul 01 1996 18:158
    
    Yeah, I'm in and out of this place like a damn yo-yo.
    
    I'll probably be at another site in six weeks.
    
    
    
    I.
11.1248Always looking to learn something new...NETCAD::DREYERI need a vacation!!Mon Jul 01 1996 18:324
LFT: Seeing Ian leave so soon...take care and I do hope to see you back here 
     soon.  Darn, I thought you were going to start giving us sex education!!

Lola
11.1249CHEFS::HANDLEY_IGit Par ExcellanceMon Jul 01 1996 18:458
    
    Gee, maybe I ought to start a correspondance course.
    
    Ian's boinking for beginners has a nice ring to it.
    
    
    
    I.
11.1250You've gotta be joking!!NETCAD::DREYERI need a vacation!!Mon Jul 01 1996 18:481
hahaha...for beginners???  How about an advanced class???
11.1251CHEFS::HANDLEY_IGit Par ExcellanceMon Jul 01 1996 18:568
    
    Only for you Lola.
    
    I warn you though, it involves a practical exam....;^)
    
    
    
    I.
11.1252Wish I could be permanent with Digital.JULIET::ROYERJeg forstar ikke!Mon Jul 01 1996 19:318
11.1253FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jul 01 1996 20:326
11.1254CSCMA::GEDDISOne person CAN change the world!Tue Jul 02 1996 18:484
    LFT: Not havin' access to my Friends in ::FRIENDS for a coupla days!!!
    
    STRETCH
    
11.1255So far, so good!JULIET::ROYERJeg forstar ikke!Tue Jul 02 1996 19:4112
11.1256KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Wed Jul 03 1996 17:175
    LFT:   Acid indigestion
    
    
    
    ooooooouuuuuuccccccchhhhhhh!!!!!
11.1257KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Wed Jul 03 1996 17:431
    mft: Hearing from someone I havent heard from in a loooong time!!!
11.1258KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Wed Jul 03 1996 17:434
    btw: that should be in MOST FAVOURITE THING!!!
    
    
    Deb_on_top_of_the_world!!!!
11.1259As thou rise, so shalt thou fall...CSCMA::GEDDISWANTED: P&amp;PE for DEC worldwide! ASAP!Wed Jul 03 1996 19:113
    LFT: Feelin' that DEC's approachin' the final stages of Ancient Rome...
    
    STRETCH
11.1260Hills of rome!JULIET::ROYERJeg forstar ikke!Wed Jul 03 1996 19:255
11.1261CSCMA::GEDDISWANTED: P&amp;PE for DEC worldwide! ASAP!Wed Jul 03 1996 19:323
    The question is: Will Mr PALMER be casted to play the role of NERO?
    
    STRETCH
11.1262Headlines in the news.JULIET::ROYERJeg forstar ikke!Wed Jul 03 1996 19:545
11.1263KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Wed Jul 03 1996 19:561
    is that a real headline?
11.1264Not at this time.JULIET::ROYERJeg forstar ikke!Wed Jul 03 1996 19:585
11.1265KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Wed Jul 03 1996 20:004
    sorry Dave, ubt you never know with these newspapers these days!
    
    
    
11.1266CSCMA::GEDDISWANTED: P&amp;PE for DEC worldwide! ASAP!Wed Jul 03 1996 20:094
    Let's hope, for EVERYONE'S sake, those headlines never hit the front
    pages!!! :-(((
    
    STRETCH
11.1267KERNEL::WRIGHTDNobody does it better......Thu Jul 04 1996 14:083
    LFT: being bitten on the face (under my eye), by some cheeky mite!
    
    	DEC outta get in the terminators!  :-)
11.1268KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Fri Jul 05 1996 13:124
    LFT: My 1-1 with my manager this morning.  I wonder if Ive made any
    improvement on last time!
    
    Deb_trembling!
11.1269KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Fri Jul 05 1996 13:293
    
    
    SNARF!
11.1270KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Fri Jul 05 1996 13:411
    LFT: countdown is on for my 10am appt.
11.1271KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Fri Jul 05 1996 13:425
    gonna go and have a ciggie in a few mins....
    
    I hope Ive managed to get rid of my aggressive tendancies!
    
    Deb
11.1272FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sat Jul 06 1996 16:188
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	chest congestion. Maybe a run today will get it all out...:*)
    
    
    	chico
11.1273KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Jul 08 1996 14:286
    LFT:  Having to trade my car in for another one because of numerous
    problems encountered...I hate this!!!
    
    I love my little car!
    
    Deb_disappointed!  :-((((
11.1274FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jul 08 1996 15:5410
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	Seeing an absolutely wonderful Jeep for sale and knowing I can't
    justify the money to buy it. I had a '76 CJ-7 "Renegade" for a while
    and LOVED it. Oh well....someday when I'm rich. :)
    
    
    chico
11.1275Yes, a minor runin with one.JULIET::ROYERJeg forstar ikke!Mon Jul 08 1996 19:2410
11.1276CSCMA::GEDDISSave thyself from thine enemies!Mon Jul 08 1996 19:296
    <= Re: 11.1275
    
    Anyone wanna join me as a streetie??? $200/day without taxes ain't such
    a bad deal!!!
    
    STRETCH
11.1277KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Jul 08 1996 19:421
    LFT: being soo muggy that its uncomfortable to work...
11.1278CSCMA::GEDDISSave thyself from thine enemies!Mon Jul 08 1996 20:015
    <= Debs: Ya work for a computer company...Computers require certain
    temps, humidity, and barometric pressure to work right...Don't they
    have AC there if not for you for the computers???
    
    STRETCH
11.1279KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Jul 08 1996 20:026
    I think it comes down to me naturally being hot anyway STRETCH!!!
    
    
    
    
    Deb_giggling!
11.1280CSCMA::GEDDISSave thyself from thine enemies!Mon Jul 08 1996 20:123
    Don't make an AC big enough ta cool ya down, eh?
    
    STRETCH
11.1281KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Jul 08 1996 20:121
    Not humanly possible!!
11.1282CSCMA::GEDDISSave thyself from thine enemies!Mon Jul 08 1996 20:143
    Yer hunk never did say he was HUMAN, did he?
    
    STRETCH
11.1283KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Jul 08 1996 20:428
    LFT: being bitten to death by a greedy blood-sucking load of midgets!!!
    
    They are over my hands and ankles and my chest!!!!!  I cant believe
    this!!
    
    I'll look like soemthing from space pretty soon with all these lumps!
    
    Deb_suffering!
11.1284CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverMon Jul 08 1996 20:433
    Debs: Midgets??? Ya're bein' eaten alive by the wee lit'le folk?
    
    STRETCH
11.1285KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Jul 08 1996 20:5028
    I know!! - can ya believe it!
    
    The more they eat.....
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    is all the less for Steve!!!!   ;-)
11.1286FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jul 08 1996 20:5311
    
    	midgets = blackflies (I think)
    
    
    	re: panhandlers
    
    	I find what works is to expose the butt of your sidearm whilst
    reaching for your wallet. You'd be surprised how fast some of those
    panhandlers can run. :)
    
    chico
11.1287CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverMon Jul 08 1996 20:545
    Debs: Methinks I sees yer HORNS takin' the place of yer HALO again!!!
    
    :-)))
    
    STRETCH
11.1288CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverMon Jul 08 1996 20:597
    Re: Panhandlers
    
    chico: The tough part is those who NEED it are bein' subjected to those
    who don't, makin' it hard to decide who does and doesn't - just like a
    lot of other areas in life, eh? (An' what if'n ya ain't got a sidearm?)
    
    STRETCH
11.1289FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 09 1996 03:5819
    
    re: Stretch
    	
>(An' what if'n ya ain't got a sidearm?)
    
    	Perish the thought! ;*)
    
>    chico: The tough part is those who NEED it are bein' subjected to those
>    who don't, makin' it hard to decide who does and doesn't - just like a
>    lot of other areas in life, eh? 
    
    	Anyone who stops my forward movement and gets in my face about how
    they need a few bucks is lucky I don't knock them down. Anyone who is
    simply holding out a cup or a hat and is not confronting me will
    probably get my spare change. 
    
    	It may not be perfect, but it works for me. 
    
    chico
11.1290kisses allover the bumps... Alien!JULIET::ROYERJeg forstar ikke!Tue Jul 09 1996 05:3914
11.1291KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Jul 09 1996 12:338
    Thanks Dave........
    
    
    
    Your hugs are luverly!!!!!
    
    
    Darlin'D
11.1292FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 09 1996 16:138
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	sleeping through the alarm clock. I still made it here by 6:45am
    tho'. :)
    
    chico
11.1293KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Jul 09 1996 16:167
    never mind Chico, better late than never.....
    
    
    at least we have the pleasure of noting ya today babe!
    
    
    Darlin'D
11.1294FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 09 1996 17:024
    
    	it's always a pleasure to note with you D....:)
    
    chico
11.1295KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Jul 09 1996 17:564
    LFT: the attack on a wolverhampton nursery school yesterday....
    
    
    	Sickening.
11.1296CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverTue Jul 09 1996 18:065
    LFT: Violence against innocent little children makes my blood BOIL!!!
    
    STRETCH
    
    PS - chico: Where'd ya say I can get my hands on a gun??? :-)))
11.1297KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Jul 09 1996 18:081
    makes me feel sick and upset  :-(
11.1298KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Jul 09 1996 18:464
    LFT: still getting bitten............this is terrible......
    
    
    :-(((
11.1299KERNEL::JOHNSONPLong live Abba!Tue Jul 09 1996 18:484
    Deb - report it to Debbie they'll get the people in that spray the
    carpet...
    
    Pol
11.1300snarfy snarf!KERNEL::JOHNSONPLong live Abba!Tue Jul 09 1996 18:481
    
11.1301CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverTue Jul 09 1996 18:494
    Ok, Debs babe!!! I'll stop nibblin' now if'n it bothers you so...<wink>
    
    FF
    STRETCH
11.1302KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Jul 09 1996 18:5326
    why thank you guys........Im touched!
    
    NOT in the head!
    
    
    Paula, Jon Morris has already had this bit sprayed, but they need to
    find out exactly what kinda beasties it is, cos they arent dying,
    they're multiplying....
    
    So far, I have a grand total of..................
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    22 bites!
11.1303KERNEL::JOHNSONPLong live Abba!Tue Jul 09 1996 18:543
    Oh god, this place is a death trap....
    
    Pol
11.1304KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Jul 09 1996 18:5535
    STRETCH.........you're not the kinda beastie Id wanna get rid of......
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Keep nibbling!
11.1305Not much help, but we do care.JULIET::ROYERJeg forstar ikke!Tue Jul 09 1996 19:0516
11.1306KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Jul 09 1996 19:0613
    thanks Dave, 
    
    Im feeling better alreadyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!
    
    
    
    
    My arm is really aching!! - I have 7 alone on my arm and hand!
    
    I hurt - aaaaaaarrrrrrrggggggghhhh!!!!
    
    
    Deb_going_to_die
11.1307CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverTue Jul 09 1996 19:074
    Debs: The count up to 25 or 30 now? I've been nibblin' again!!! :-))
    
    FF
    STRETCH
11.1308]FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 09 1996 19:547
    
    
    	re: stretch
    
    	any corner on south main in Worcester.
    
    
11.1309CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverTue Jul 09 1996 19:584
    chico: Sad, too, ain't it? Being able to buy weapons of war from a
    "curbside vendor"...
    
    STRETCH
11.1310FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 09 1996 20:5212
    
    
    	I think everyone should be able to buy firearms through legit
    channels (barring felons). Unfortunately, for myself and other law
    abiding firearms owners, these street punks that are shooting each
    other are making a bad name for us. I own assault weapons, high
    capacity pistols, etc and I attend machine gun shoots on a regular
    basis (all legal). 90%+ of all legally purchased firearms are never
    used in a crime. But that stuff doesn't make the headlines....only the
    bad gets published.
    
    jim
11.1311KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Jul 09 1996 20:552
    seems a bit of a contradiction in terms, owning firearms when everyone
    is meant to be striving for peace......
11.1312CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverTue Jul 09 1996 20:576
    Jim: Allow me to state that my point-of-view concerning guns seems
    opposite of your own, except that I don't oppose possession and usage
    of guns by mature, responsible owners for their intended purposes - to
    which I'm sure we both agree.(?)
    
    STRETCH
11.1313FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 09 1996 21:0014
    
    
    	I don't shoot at people debs. And if I did, it wouldn't be me that
    was the one not striving for peace...they would have initiated the
    confrontation. 
    
    	To me, it's no different than owning a fire extinguisher. I'll
    probably never have to use it, but if I need it it's there. 
    
    	I've been a gun owner since I was 13 and I've been shooting since I
    was 7. Never had an accident, never carried a gun to school, and never
    thought of using one in anger. 
    
    chico
11.1314KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Jul 09 1996 21:0314
    Chico, Im not suggesting that you do shoot at people mate, but to me,
    who has not even ever HELD a firearm, weapons/firearms suggest
    violence.  Doesnt matter if they are for protection or not, the
    potential is ALWAYS there.
    
    I wouldnt feel safe with one in the house.
    
    I know the problem goes back further for example why should you need
    protection from society in the first place, but we gotta start
    somewhere.  The problem is that I dont know exactly where we should
    start.
    
    
    Deb_disappointed_with_society
11.1315FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 09 1996 21:0512
    
    
    	re: stretch
    
    	that's cool. I don't expect everyone to be into guns or even like
    guns. I just don't want people telling me I can't have them because
    THEY have a problem with it. My great-grandfather, my grandfather, my
    father, my brother and myself were/are all shooters. My father, my
    brother and I carry on a regular basis. It's part of our family
    culture.
    
    chico
11.1316KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Jul 09 1996 21:063
    I dont think weapons should be part of a culture.
    
    
11.1317FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 09 1996 21:1821
    
    
    	re: debs
    
    	Yep, society is a mess and it doesn't look to be getting any
    better, but I don't consider eliminating firearms to be a step in the
    right direction. Number one, anyone can make a firearm. They make
    zip-guns, gunpowder and bullets in prison - one of the most controlled
    environments in the world! The genie is out of the bottle and you can't
    get rid of all the guns because they'll keep making more. Number two,
    people will commit violent acts whether firearms are available or not.
    Witness the OKC bombing (fuel oil and fertilizer), the recent slashings
    of the kids, etc. The largest mass murder (before OKC) was done with
    gasoline and a match.
    
        I hate violence and I work to be a peaceful person. Unfortunately,
    there are many in the world who don't feel this way. I don't intend to
    become a victim of one of these animals.
    
    
    	chico
11.1318FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 09 1996 21:33160
    
	re: gun control
    
    	Since this is probably the wrong forum to be discussing this issue,
    I suggest anyone seriously interested in the subject to check out the
    notesfile listed below. Enjoy!
    
    
    	chico
    
    p.s. - hit KP7 to add the notesfile to your directory.
    
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                     INTRODUCTION TO THIS NEW NOTES FILE

The level of violent deaths and injuries associated firearms has escalated 
dramatically in recent years.  The illegal use of firearms and easy 
availability of firearms now causes serious problems for law enforcement and 
public safety  agencies throughout the United States.  The use of firearms in 
accidental deaths, suicides, and violent acts perpetrated on innocent victims 
now requires a new, well reasoned approach to firearms management.


                        PURPOSE OF THIS NEW NOTES FILE

This new notes file is intended to serve as a forum for the exchange of ideas 
and positive  opinions that address firearms management:  

	- laws and legislative matters that directly address the subject of 
	  firearms management in the United States

	- educational programs directly addressing firearms management,       
	  safety, and methods for avoiding "gun accidents"

	- views on new methods of controlling firearms in order 	      
	  to insure they do no fall into the hands of people who would use    
	  them for illegal purposes

                          "...AND JUSTICE FOR ALL."

Firearms management stands parallel with the right of law-abiding people to 
own and use firearms for legitimate sporting, recreational, and private 
security uses.  

The purpose of this notes file is not to support positions that would do away 
with the use of firearms for legitimate, legally protected reasons.  Nor is 
this notes file intended to support those who believe that the Second 
Amendment to the Constitution  implies or compels the unfettered proliferation 
of firearms within the United States.

The PURPOSE of the file is to promote the exchange of views on the management 
of firearms within the United States, and to promote the exchange of views on 
how this goal might best be achieved.

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11.1319CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverTue Jul 09 1996 22:1411
    chico: I don't question anyone's right to possess guns upon presenting
    a valid necessity or reason for having them, I just wish everyone who
    does possess and carry guns uses them for their intended purposes in a
    mature and repsonsible manner - as well as denying access to them from
    those who don't have a reason/necessity for them or those who aren't
    mature and responsible enough to use them as intended. 
    
    (Not to say that any of your comments suggested I said or meant
    anything otherwise, just as a clarification on my viewpoint.)
    
    STRETCH 
11.1320FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jul 09 1996 22:235
    
    
    	wanna know my reason/necessity for having firearms? I WANT them. :)
    
    chico
11.1321CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverTue Jul 09 1996 22:5311
    chico: Not to dig into a Rathole, but, using that type of reasoning
    anyone could justify possessing things merely by wanting them, such as:
    
    	1) reason for having someone else's property
    	2) reason for having classified files and material
    	3) reason for having nuclear weapons
    	4) reason for having child pornography, etc
    
    See where there may be an error to that reasoning?
    
    STRETCH
11.1322CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverTue Jul 09 1996 23:0416
    chico: To be more in line with my original comment about
    reasons/necessities, allow me to use these examples:
    
    	Valid Reasons:
    
    		1) Hunting for food
    		2) Law enforcement
    		3) Target shooting, etc
    
    	Invalid Reasons:
    
    		1) Poaching or "Hunting for Sport"
    		2) Commiting crimes
    		3) Killing innocent people, etc
    
    STRETCH
11.1323NETCAD::DREYERI need a vacation!!Tue Jul 09 1996 23:403
LFT: This discussion...should be in the firearms conference...

Lola
11.1324CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverTue Jul 09 1996 23:444
    Lola: Sorry 'bout that... Just exchanging viewpoint amongst
    ::FRIENDS...
    
    STRETCH
11.1325FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Jul 10 1996 02:3524
    
    
    	
re:   <<< Note 11.1321 by CSCMA::GEDDIS "FOREVER FRIENDS are Friends Forever" >>>
    
    >    chico: Not to dig into a Rathole, but, using that type of reasoning
>    anyone could justify possessing things merely by wanting them

    Stretch, number one, we're not talking about any of those things that
    you list....let's keep the discussion focused shall we? Number two,
    lots of people own things because they WANT them, not because they need
    them. Whether it is a firearm, a basketball, a turbo charged hot rod, a
    nice set of golf clubs, etc, it doesn't matter. People buy things they
    WANT all the time. Would you say that just because someone believes
    WANTING something (like a firearm) is good enough reason to have it,
    that they believe anyone should have nuclear weapons, child
    pornography, etc? 
    
    	You can't reasonably bring the things you list into this
    discussion. 
    
    
    chico
                       
11.1326FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Jul 10 1996 02:4438
    
    
    	
    re:    <<< Note 11.1322 by CSCMA::GEDDIS "FOREVER FRIENDS are Friends Forever" >>>
    
>    chico: To be more in line with my original comment about
>    reasons/necessities, allow me to use these examples:
>        	Valid Reasons:
>      		1) Hunting for food
>    		2) Law enforcement
>    		3) Target shooting, etc
>       	Invalid Reasons:
>       		1) Poaching or "Hunting for Sport"
>    		2) Commiting crimes
>    		3) Killing innocent people, etc
    
    	So if I say my reason for wanting a firearm is targeting shooting
    then what is preventing me from using it to kill people? Nothing except
    my own morality. Putting acceptable REASONS on owning things can get
    very dangerous. Let's take an example near and dear to your
    heart and put some REASONABLE limits on it......like limits on the
    freedom of speech. There is no reason to swear, to use ethnic slurs, to
    badger or belittle others etc. Let's put a stop to it! Censor a few
    books here, put some limits on what can be printed in the paper, get a
    few govt sensors to weed out the "undesirable" words/subjects, give
    police the authority to arrest citizens for "speech" violations and
    hey! What a nice, polite police state we've created.
    
    	What you consider reasonable, others may not. 
    
    
    chico
    
    p.s. - this discussion should end here. If you wish to continue this
    conversation, let's take it to 12DOT2::FIREARMS_ISSUES. Just do me a
    favor and READ what has been entered in the conference first so we
    don't cover a lot of old ground. 
                                     
11.1327Well, maybe not bombs...JULIET::ROYERJeg forstar ikke!Wed Jul 10 1996 04:0610
11.1328KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Jul 10 1996 17:202
    LFT: didnt realise it was such a hard struggle trying to arrange a
    bloomin' mortgage!
11.1329KERNEL::JOHNSONPLong live Abba!Wed Jul 10 1996 17:213
    The struggle is you have to have lots of money to start orf with....
    
    Pol
11.1330KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Jul 10 1996 17:221
    I know, but just faffing around with paperwork etc....is a pain!
11.1331KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Jul 10 1996 17:251
    lft: being impatient and excited at the same time!!!
11.1332Excellent!NETCAD::DREYERI need a vacation!!Wed Jul 10 1996 17:277
>    I know, but just faffing around with paperwork etc....is a pain!

*Well* worth it though!!!!!  Are you buying a house, Deb???

Lola

11.1333KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Jul 10 1996 17:3012
    Lola, I am, I am buying a house.......but its not the usual thing..
    
    
    
    You see my parents are moving out of the area and are leaving their
    house.  Instead of them renting elsewhere, I am buying them a house,
    they pay the mortgage, and I pay rent where I am now!!
    
    Sooooo, I get to stay in a nice big luxurious house and they are moving
    to some 3 bedroomed place elsewhere!
    
    makes perfect sense to me!
11.1334NETCAD::DREYERI need a vacation!!Wed Jul 10 1996 17:338
LFT:Confusion!!!

Deb, is the nice big luxurious house the one your folks are moving out of?

Sounds like a confusing situation...when all's said and done, will you own the 
house they'll be paying the mortgage on?    
    
Lola
11.1335KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Jul 10 1996 17:407
    Lola, yes, the big one is their's, Im staying there, cos they didnt
    want me moving out and finding somewhere else.  And I will own the
    other house and they will pay the mortgage, a bit of a swap of
    responsibilities - know what I mean?
    
    Its because my mum doesnt like Basingstoke and shes moving back to
    where they were before we moved here........
11.1336KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Jul 10 1996 18:451
    LFT: flamin' all-in-1 being down, Im fed up of this flamin' thing!
11.1337CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverWed Jul 10 1996 19:004
    Debs: Have you no ther e-mail access?
    
    FF
    STRETCH
11.1338<KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Thu Jul 11 1996 13:336
    
    
    LFT: Missing an EXPLOSIVE debate in here yesterday.
    
    Chris_gun_shy
    :)
11.1339CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverThu Jul 11 1996 17:294
    Chris: (Actually, the "discussion" was on Tuesday.) We could always
    continue it! <hehehe>
    
    STRETCH_who_speaks_his_mind_(Maybe_too_often!)
11.1340CHEFS::PLANTJdifferent angles + horizonsThu Jul 11 1996 17:316
    re -1
    
    Now, now..you behave yourself, Mr. Geddis!
    ;-)
    
    Jackie
11.1341I PROMISE! I'll TRY to behave, honest!CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverThu Jul 11 1996 17:385
    Jax: I wouldn't THINK of beginnin' a "discussion" in here that's
    inappropriate for the contents of the conference, but I would respond
    if'n someone else made mention of a particular Topic...
    
    STRETCH
11.1342CHEFS::PLANTJdifferent angles + horizonsThu Jul 11 1996 17:527
    Stretch,
    
    I know..I was just teasing you.
    
    Jackie 0;-)
            
    
11.1343CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverThu Jul 11 1996 18:007
    Jax: Me forgot to indicate that I, too, was tryin' to pull a funny!
    
    So let me make up for my error:
    
    8-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
    
    STRETCH
11.1344CHEFS::PLANTJdifferent angles + horizonsThu Jul 11 1996 18:153
    Wow..I can see that toothy grin all they way across the pond!
    
    Jax
11.1345CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverThu Jul 11 1996 18:204
    Jax: Toothy or toothless? (Just kiddin'! I've got SOMEONE'S teeth in my
    mouth, but I'm not quite sure who's!!! :-))) )
    
    STRETCH
11.1346and chuckling all the whileCHEFS::PLANTJdifferent angles + horizonsThu Jul 11 1996 18:255
    re -1
    
    eeeuukk!  Not sure I want to know all the details! ;-)
    
    Jackie (using imagination)
11.1347CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverThu Jul 11 1996 18:337
    Jax: Just gettin' a lit'le giddy anticipatin' my weekend PAROLE from a
    "mature, responsible" life, I guess... :-)))
    
    STRETCH
    
    PS - Let's just hope Hurricane Bertha doesn't come close enough to kiss
    us on the cheek, though!
11.1348every year I go thru this!POOKY::OROURKEBreakfast in BransonThu Jul 11 1996 18:466
    
    LFT:  Watching the weather forecast.  I hope Bertha decides to extend
    her stay in the Carolinas!
    
    /jen
    
11.1349CSCMA::GEDDISFOREVER FRIENDS are Friends ForeverThu Jul 11 1996 19:097
    LFT: Hurricane Bertha. Let's hope she decides to take an ocean cruise
    and calm down a bit without EVER touching land!
    
    STRETCH
    
    PS - /jen: I hope yer weekend plans aren't jeopardized after all yer
    plannin'!!!
11.1350POOKY::OROURKEBreakfast in BransonThu Jul 11 1996 19:338
    
    Well Stretch-my event is always rain or shine and I've got a great
    record of 'shine' even when dire things are predicted.
    
    Good friends don't mind a little water...
    
    /jen
    
11.1351NETCAD::DREYERI need a vacation!!Thu Jul 11 1996 22:5211
/jen,

What I heard this a.m. was showers Sat. morning, then sunny and about 75 F
for the afternoon...doesn't sound too bad.  I was thinking of you when I
heard that!

STRETCH, whereabouts in New Hampshire are you and Carole going camping?  I
hope you give us a report about the campgrounds when you return.

Lola-always-on-the-lookout-for-a-good-campground!
11.1352FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Jul 14 1996 16:1710
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	Had to miss a couple of ambulance calls this week due to bad timing
    (i.e. - I had the kiddies and Lisa was working). Oh well...no playing
    with the lights and siren until next week I suppose. ;*)
    
    
    chico
11.1353FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Jul 14 1996 19:3110
    
    
    	Another LFT:
    
    	Being here instead of being at /jen's party. It was supposed to be
    saturday, but everyone cancelled on account of the rain/wind and they
    are partying today. Bummer for me....:(
    
    
    chico
11.1354KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Jul 15 1996 14:009
    LFT: my car is broken for good now.  :-((
    
    	Big end /shattered bearings......Im gutted......I nearly thumped
        the mechanic when he told me.  Wasnt his fault though.  I dont
    understand why it happened.  Now I am carless, for god knows how long,
    and I still have to keep paying the payments.   Not Fair.
    
    
    Deb_upset
11.1355KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Mon Jul 15 1996 14:196
    
    
    can't you get new bearings?
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1356KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Jul 15 1996 14:373
    it's going to cost a loooot of money to sort it.....
    
    dosh which I dont have...
11.1357FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jul 15 1996 16:0713
    
    
    	Chris, if she has thrown an engine bearing then she basically needs
    to replace the engine. If an engine bearing throws, it's usually
    because some kind of abrasive has gotten in there (dirt, sand, etc) and
    enlarged the space where the bearings go. You can put new bearings in,
    but you still need to open up the engine to do it and it'll just throw
    one sooner than later. 
    
    	Debs, if I was there I'd help you put a new engine in. Sorry to
    hear about yer car.
    
    chico
11.1358KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Jul 15 1996 16:0910
    Thanks Chico.....Im having a problem with the garage that sold me it,
    because the car is just over a year old and just out of warranty, but
    the car has basically been in their garage every month since I bought
    it for one repair or another....Now Im looking for a new engine or a
    replacement wehicle.......
    
    either way - I just want my car!!!
    
    
    P.s. - goto MFT
11.1359CHEFS::PLANTJdifferent angles + horizonsMon Jul 15 1996 16:377
    Deb,
    
    Try contacting the Citizens Advice Bureau to see if they can give you 
    some extra help as to what recourse you might have.  If you've got the
    problem history documented, it might help your cause.
    
    Jackie
11.1360KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Jul 15 1996 16:547
    Jacks, Ive already got the Trading Standards involved and they say that
    Reg VArdy WILL do something to sort this out, because otherwise, I have
    a water-tight case for court....
    
    I HOPE it doesnt go that far.....
    
    Deb
11.1361KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Jul 15 1996 17:475
    LFT: today I think Im hysterical, I have soooo much to do and have to
    get it done like NOW, that Im giggling away, cos if I dont giggle, I
    think I'll cry!!!  It must be the heat!
    
    Deb
11.1362WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMJe ne sais pas.....Mon Jul 15 1996 17:546
    
    
    I can sympathise with ya Debs - I was like that last week !
    
    
    Shell
11.1363FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jul 15 1996 18:073
    
    
    	Wot, I'm like that every day! :*)
11.1364KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Jul 15 1996 18:165
    I feel much better now guys!!
    
    Thanks!!
    
    Deb_smiling!
11.1365KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Jul 15 1996 20:433
    LFT: I didnt want to say Lola, but I called Steve and said that I
    wouldnt see him anymore for certain reasons.....Im gutted I had to do
    it.....but what can I say????
11.1366Too many LFTs!NETCAD::DREYERI need a vacation!!Mon Jul 15 1996 20:4720
LFT: 

1.My cat urinating on the living room rug yesterday...right in front of me. 

2. The MA DOR *still* saying I didn't pay my income tax, even though they 
   cancelled my check March 15, and I've already sent them a copy of the
   cancelled check.

3. Having an earring duplicated at the gem show, only to discover the next day
   that the post on the original earring is in the center, on the new earring 
   it's on the top and won't fit in the earring jacket now.  Back to the
   jewelers...

4. Needing 2 new motors on my van for the rear windows, which means another day
   the van needs to be in the shop, it was already in Friday to fix this...


AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

Lola 
11.1367POWDML::VENTURAeight weeks to go!Tue Jul 16 1996 19:586
    LFT:  Missing the ring that Bob gave me for my birthday.  It fell off
    of my finger SOMEWHERE in my house, I just don't know where.  It's
    probably become a paw hockey puck.
    
    Holly
    
11.1368KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Wed Jul 17 1996 13:114
    
    
    
    set up ==>
11.1369KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Wed Jul 17 1996 13:113
    
    
    SNARF!
11.1370QCAV02::RAVISHANKARAboutTimeIChangedThisFri Jul 19 1996 09:224
    
    LFT: The TWA Flight 800 crash ! Mechanical Failure or Terrorist
    	Activity.... either way.
    
11.1371MARVIN::TANGFri Jul 19 1996 12:552
Guess they won't know anymore until the Black Box Flight Recorder is
recovered...  :o(
11.1372KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Fri Jul 19 1996 13:167
    
    
    
    re -2
    
    
    RAVI!!!
11.1373KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Fri Jul 19 1996 20:331
    LFT I am bored............
11.1374KERNEL::JOHNSONPLong live Abba!Fri Jul 19 1996 20:354
    
    LFT:  I am bored too..
    
    Pol
11.1375KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Jul 22 1996 13:301
    LFT: My hasty and rash conclusions which are ALWAYS wrong!
11.1376FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Jul 22 1996 16:1112
    
    
    	that's the thing about those hasty and rash conclusions. slow down
    debs...:)
    
    	LFT:
    
    	working on a day like this! Yesterday was gorgeous and today is
    supposed to be just as nice....<sigh>
    
    
    chico
11.1377CHEFS::KEIR_MMon Jul 22 1996 16:125
    LFT:
    
    Sunburn!!! OWWWWWWWCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
    
    S..x
11.1378KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Thu Jul 25 1996 17:245
    LFT: being interrupted and spoken down to by a B.A rep. when I was
    calling for a flight price.
    
    I'll tell ya, Im gonna do someone in soon if they dont start cutting me
    come slack!!!!!!
11.1379KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Thu Jul 25 1996 18:137
    
    
    Deb
    you must be wearing a sign that says "abuse me"
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1380WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMTo Save Paradise.......Thu Jul 25 1996 18:524
    
    
    
    Ooooooeeeerrrr....
11.1381NETRIX::&quot;j_sadin@fabbit.hlo.dec.com&quot;chicoSun Jul 28 1996 23:356
	LFT: 4 more days until vacation! I wanna be on the cape now! Waaaah! :)


	chico
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]
11.1382CHEFS::KEIR_MMon Jul 29 1996 16:055
    MONDDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSSSS!!!
    
    Groan!!
    
    S..x
11.1383KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Thu Aug 01 1996 18:441
    LFT: I think Im becoming a very bitter person.......
11.1384KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Thu Aug 01 1996 18:455
    
    
    whats making you bitter?
    
    
11.1385KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Thu Aug 01 1996 18:461
    humans attitudes
11.1386CHEFS::KEIR_MThu Aug 01 1996 18:461
    Debs - why?
11.1387KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Thu Aug 01 1996 18:463
    
    
    not everyone is a scum-sucking pig :)))
11.1388KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Thu Aug 01 1996 18:471
    thats not what Im beginning to believe.....
11.1389KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Thu Aug 01 1996 18:476
    
    
    your hanging with the wrong crowd then. 
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1390KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Thu Aug 01 1996 18:481
    oh well - there's my answer to life!
11.1391KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Thu Aug 01 1996 18:486
    
    
    if you know the problem then address it.
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1392KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Thu Aug 01 1996 18:511
    if only life was that simple Chris.
11.1393KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Thu Aug 01 1996 18:527
    
    
    
    well you have the power. Unless you give it to someone else.
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1394KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Thu Aug 01 1996 18:556
    Ok - I have just given it to someone else!!
    
    
    
    
    I BLOODY GIVE UP!!!!
11.1395KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Thu Aug 01 1996 18:585
    
    
    what happened?
    
    
11.1396HOOPY::TANGThu Aug 01 1996 19:0310
Debs,

Don't give up.  You need to pick yourself up and be strong minded. 
Don't slip into the trap of being controled by life.  Think positive,
and that you control your life.

Just thought I'd say that.  From someone whose been there this week, I
know how it feels.

Mr Disgruntled.
11.1397KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Thu Aug 01 1996 19:048
    
    
    Hi Mr Disgruntled!!
    
    Where've ya been?
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1398HOOPY::TANGThu Aug 01 1996 19:079
re: what have I been up to

Been working hard (for a number of reasons - not just because we've had
a lot of work on recently)...

And feeling a bit sorry for myself, but I think I'm over it now...


H.
11.1399CHEFS::KEIR_MThu Aug 01 1996 19:076
    Hey H!!!
    
    Glad to hear ur over it!!
    
    Good to hear from ya!
    S..x
11.1400KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Thu Aug 01 1996 19:086
    
    
    glad things are better for ya...and here ya go to make you feel better
    
    
    ===>
11.1401KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Thu Aug 01 1996 19:083
    
    
    oh well..sorry I tried! :)))
11.1402CHEFS::KEIR_MThu Aug 01 1996 19:094
    Hahahhah!! Sorry - decided to butt in there!! Well Chris u've had loads
    today1!!
    
    S..x
11.1403HOOPY::TANGThu Aug 01 1996 19:097
Thanks Sx...  :o)

I think I'm over it anyway...  Been receiving encouragement from
various quarters which is making me more sure...


H.
11.1404HOOPY::TANGThu Aug 01 1996 19:106
Thanks Chris,

I saw your efforts there..!  :o)


H.
11.1405JULIET::ROYERWork sucks, but the pay is okay!Thu Aug 01 1996 19:295
    LFT: I think Im becoming a very bitter person.......
    
    LFT: Not being able to try the taste test to verify that!
    
    
11.1406WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMTo Save Paradise.......Wed Aug 07 1996 14:1010
    
    LFT: Feeling REALLY REALLY Down and not knowing why :-((
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Shell
11.1407try this.JULIET::ROYERWork sucks, but the pay is okay!Wed Aug 07 1996 19:4421
11.1408CHEFS::KEIR_MWed Aug 07 1996 19:455
    Wow Dave - if you're handing that out, can i have some too???
    
    Plllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssssssssssssssse
    
    S..x
11.1409I aim to please, Ma'am!JULIET::ROYERWork sucks, but the pay is okay!Wed Aug 07 1996 19:488
11.1410CHEFS::KEIR_MWed Aug 07 1996 19:4911
    Dave, 
    
    I'm asking...
    
    
    
    I'll beg if you like?!??!!
    
    hahaha!
    
    S..x
11.1411KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Aug 07 1996 19:501
    Ive got a headache.....AGAIN!
11.1412since you are begging..JULIET::ROYERWork sucks, but the pay is okay!Wed Aug 07 1996 19:529
11.1413At your service.JULIET::ROYERWork sucks, but the pay is okay!Wed Aug 07 1996 19:537
11.1414KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Wed Aug 07 1996 19:546
    
    
    Greedy! :)))))
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1415WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMlove is the drug...Wed Aug 07 1996 19:5510
    
    
    
    well just popped back in the file..  Dave what a wonderful thought -
    pity its not reality :-((
    
    
    
    
    Shell
11.1416KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Aug 07 1996 19:557
    awwwwwww, Dave, you do seem to have some kinda magic about ya!
    
    But, unfortunately this headache has been with me since last night...
    a close friend of mine gave me the solution, but its been impossible to 
    attain that yet........
    
    Deb_wicked!
11.1417KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Fri Aug 09 1996 18:511
    Lft: being dumped.
11.1418CHEFS::KEIR_MFri Aug 09 1996 18:523
    You haven't have ya? Thought all was Good with ya fella??
    
    S..x
11.1419KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Fri Aug 09 1996 18:539
    
    
    
    not again?? 
    
    Hugs to you Deb...don't get back together with him this time!!
    
    Chris
    
11.1420KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Fri Aug 09 1996 19:144
    Dont think there's much chance of getting back with him Chris, when he
    dumped me.
    
    never mind.   C'est la vie
11.1421CHEFS::KEIR_MFri Aug 09 1996 19:163
    Then it's HIS loss aye!!!!
    
    S..x
11.1422KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Fri Aug 09 1996 19:177
    
    
    you guys have been up and down more times than a new bride's pyjamas!
    
    Hope you don't get hurt anymore! You deserve better.
    
    Chris
11.1423BABAGI::LUSSIERFri Aug 09 1996 19:183

  Deb,  It's his loss, and our gain !!!!
11.1424KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Fri Aug 09 1996 19:193
    Thanks guys.......
    
    hugs
11.1425KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Aug 13 1996 15:041
    LFT: being stressed and having no resources!
11.1426CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Aug 13 1996 15:061
    LFT: Having to go to work!!!
11.1427FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Aug 13 1996 16:059
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	Wafer crashes on all of our machines last night. Eeks. Gonna be a
    heck of a day.
    
    
    chico
11.1428CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Aug 13 1996 19:291
    LFT : When the afternoon draggggs like it is today/!!
11.1429KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Aug 13 1996 19:431
    LFT: 3 WHOLE WEEKS!!!
11.1430KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Tue Aug 13 1996 19:447
    
    
    
    Debs...yup I agree! :)))
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1431CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Aug 13 1996 19:453
    1 week is bad enuff!! Least yours isn't on holiday!!!
    
    S..x
11.1432KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Tue Aug 13 1996 19:496
    
    
    Sx..you never talk about your stud muffin...give us the details!!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1433CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Aug 13 1996 20:065
    Stud muffin???
    
    Hahahhhahahahahahahhahhahahah!!
    
    S..x
11.1434KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Tue Aug 13 1996 20:063
    
    
    so  cough up the details!!
11.1435KERNEL::JOHNSONPAnother day in ParadiseTue Aug 13 1996 20:072
    
    Charmin..!
11.1436CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Aug 13 1996 20:085
    Cough cough splutter splutter!!
    
    Dunno about that Chris!!
    
    S..x
11.1437KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Tue Aug 13 1996 20:084
    
    
    
    what? are you embarassed? Come on....spill it girl!
11.1438KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Aug 13 1996 20:091
    Yea, well for 10 days in the middle it'll be like a holiday to him!
11.1439CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Aug 13 1996 20:106
    Why's that Debs?
    
    Chris - No I'm not embarrassed - just like playing my cards close to my
    chest!!
    
    S..x
11.1440KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Tue Aug 13 1996 20:1610
    
    
    we're not talking cards..
    
    
    well unless we're playing 5 card stud! :))))
    
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1441KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Aug 13 1996 20:176
    Stud???
    
    
    
    
    Is Steve back already?
11.1442CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Aug 13 1996 20:193
    Hahahahahhahhahahah!!
    
    S..x 
11.1443FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Aug 13 1996 20:418
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	dood from Samsung in here staring over my shoulder all day. Ack.
    
    
    chico (the observed)
11.1444CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Aug 13 1996 20:413
    I hate people 'looking' over my shoulder all the time too!!
    
    S..x
11.1445KERNEL::JOHNSONPAnother day in ParadiseTue Aug 13 1996 20:424
    
    Hiya Chico..\
    
    Pol
11.1446MARVIN::HOOPY::TANGTue Aug 13 1996 20:446
Chico,

How does a waffer crash happen...?


H_curious  :o)
11.1447KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Tue Aug 13 1996 20:4810
    
    
    H
    
    Haven't you ever dropped your biscuit into your tea?
    
    Waffer crash!
    
    Chris
    :) 
11.1448FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Aug 13 1996 21:3911
    
    
    	A wafer crash (notice the missing "f") happens when a silicon wafer
    slides out from underneath one of the carriers on our polishing tools.
    It then crashes into the other carriers on the polishing table and
    breaks into itty bitty pieces. This necessitates much
    cleaning/swearing.
    
    	Does this help? :)
    
    chico
11.1449MARVIN::HOOPY::TANGWed Aug 14 1996 13:018
Chico,

Thanks, I understand now...

Sounds like a design flaw with the polishing machinary...


H  :o)
11.1450FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Aug 14 1996 16:0411
    
    
    	Naw, no design flaw, just the nature of the process. Every tool in
    the fab can crash wafers, and all of them do it on occasion. CMP just
    crashes more than others because of the way our process works. It's an
    industry wide problem.
    
    	When $2mil tools crash wafers, you know you have problems. :*)
    
    
    chico
11.1451CHEFS::KEIR_MThu Aug 15 1996 19:126
    LFT:  When you've waited ages for a phonecall and when it finally
    comes, you're not there and u get a bloody voicemail msg instead!!
    
    Aggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!
    
    S..x
11.1452KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Fri Aug 16 1996 18:051
    LFT: chipped nail!! oh no!
11.1453KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Fri Aug 16 1996 20:071
    LFT: headacje
11.1454CHEFS::KEIR_MFri Aug 16 1996 20:096
    aaaaaawwww Debs - u can't have one of them with Friday night just round
    the corner!!!
    
    :-((((
    
    S..x
11.1455KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Fri Aug 16 1996 20:104
    I know............
    
    I'll have to have a long warm soak when I get home.....think about
    things....
11.1456KERNEL::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Fri Aug 16 1996 20:258
    
    
    Don't think too hard!! Gotta take your mind off of things!
    
    Go see a flick! ID4!!!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1457KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Fri Aug 16 1996 20:257
    going on the booze tonight..........buuuuuuut I refuse to flirt with
    anyone else while my main muscle is away working soooooooo hard!!
    
    
    
    
    yea, riiiiight, if ya call the sauna and gym every day working hard!
11.1458KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Aug 19 1996 13:483
    LFT 1: acid indigestion!!
    
    LFT 2: Our new pub being burnt to the ground!
11.1459THESUN::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Aug 20 1996 19:033
    LFT: Im all depressed, and I dont know why.........
    
    yuuukkkkkk!
11.1460WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMBut Seriously...Tue Aug 20 1996 19:0411
    
    
    
    Sorry to hear that Debs..
    
    <hugs> to ya..
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.1461WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMBut Seriously...Tue Aug 20 1996 19:0510
    
    
    
    LFT : Bills - and lots of 'em :-((
    
    
    
    
    
    shell
11.1462THESUN::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Aug 21 1996 19:001
    LFT: falling out.
11.1463From the book, what to do in case of fall out!JULIET::ROYERIntergalactic mind trip, on my Visa Card.Wed Aug 21 1996 20:4412
11.1464WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMBut Seriously...Thu Aug 22 1996 17:234
    
    
    
    LFT :   Stupid, Stupid, Stupid, Stupid people :-((((
11.1465KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Fri Aug 30 1996 13:5910
    LFT: having to book aaaaaaall my specialists on the same course within
    a timespan of a month.
    
    TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE!!
    
    What am I? - A flamin' miracle worker?????
    
    Ok, this isnt a problem for someone like me, its a piece o'cake!
    
    let's get to work!
11.1466FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Sep 01 1996 15:5511
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	The thought of having absolutely no life until next summer. This
    training program is going to be a bear! Oh well, at least I'm getting
    closer to my degree in a short amount of time. Maybe I can do my
    bachelors in less than 10yrs? Ya think? ;*)
    
    
    	chico
11.1467KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Sep 03 1996 15:565
    LFT: not being able to find adequate childcare for Ross after his
    school
    
    
    This is a bloomin' nightmare!
11.1468CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Sep 03 1996 18:203
    LFT: Thinking it is a day later then it actually is!! Yeuch!
    
    S..x
11.1469KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Sep 03 1996 18:222
    oooooooooh dear, thats a biiiiig mistake, the rest of the week takes
    forever then!!!!
11.1470CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Sep 03 1996 18:224
    Tell me about it!! I keep thinking it's Wednesday! Phuph!!
    
    S..x
    
11.1471KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Sep 03 1996 18:224
    I dont!
    
    
    ;-)
11.1472THESUN::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Tue Sep 03 1996 18:233
    
    
    You just wish is WAS Hump day!! :))))
11.1473KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Sep 03 1996 18:234
    I just keep wish it was Saturday!
    
    
    he he he he!
11.1474KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Sep 03 1996 18:231
    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha  ha ha ha haha!
11.1475CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Sep 03 1996 18:238
    Go on - rub it in!!
    
    Aaaaahhhhhhh - does that have something to do with the fact that you're
    seeing -the- man tonite??
    
    heeheeheee!!
    
    S..x
11.1476CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Sep 03 1996 18:248
    Chris - I wish every day was HUMP day!!
    
    
    
    And I don't mean Wednesday's!!
    ;-))))
    
    S.x
11.1477THESUN::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Tue Sep 03 1996 18:246
    
    
    Me too!!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1478KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Sep 03 1996 18:253
    S..x!!
    
    How COULD you make such a connection????
11.1479KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Sep 03 1996 18:261
    dead brilliant!
11.1480CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Sep 03 1996 18:268
    Why Chris? Do you like having the strops too then?
    
    
    
    
    Heehee! Only joking!! I know what ya mean!!!
    
    S..x
11.1481CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Sep 03 1996 18:265
    I was spot on then Debs?
    
    hahahhahahaha
    
    S..x
11.1482KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Sep 03 1996 18:273
    no comment on the grounds that I may incriminate myself!!
    
    :-)
11.1483THESUN::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Tue Sep 03 1996 18:283
    
    
    You've already done that Debs!
11.1484MARVIN::HOOPY::TANGTue Sep 03 1996 18:284
Hump day - what's one of those then - never had one of those in my life!


H  :o)
11.1485KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Sep 03 1996 18:281
    ooooooooooooooooooooooooh dear!
11.1486THESUN::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Tue Sep 03 1996 18:296
    
    
    sorry to hear that H!
    
    Chris
    :))
11.1487CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Sep 03 1996 18:293
    You have my sympathy H!!!
    
    S..x
11.1488KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Sep 03 1996 18:291
    <snigger!> <Snigger!>
11.1489MARVIN::HOOPY::TANGTue Sep 03 1996 18:314
What's so funny...?   :o)


H.
11.1490KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Sep 03 1996 18:324
    ha ha ha ha ha ha yha ha!!!
    
    
    <Debs in HYSTERICAL laughter now!>
11.1491MARVIN::HOOPY::TANGTue Sep 03 1996 18:334
Must be a hump day for ya then...  :o)))))


H.
11.1492BABAGI::LUSSIERTue Sep 03 1996 20:516
H,   That explains the friction burns :-)))))))



Rich
11.1493KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 04 1996 19:202
    LFT: I have to try for a flamin' Au Pair now, cos I cant get a
    childminder!
11.1494CHEFS::KEIR_MWed Sep 04 1996 19:213
    Why can't ya get one? Or can ye just nay find one?
    
    S..x
11.1495KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 04 1996 19:235
    I cant find one that I feel comfortable with leaving Ross with,
    yuuuuuuuuuk!!!
    
    not only that but childminders in our area are in short supply at the
    mo...
11.1496THESUN::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Wed Sep 04 1996 19:238
    
    
    Au Pair's are very inexpensive!! 30 quid a week
    
    - there are a few services listed on the net under aupair
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1497CHEFS::KEIR_MWed Sep 04 1996 19:245
    Sorry to hear that Dubes!! I'm sure you'll find someone suitable soon! 
    Yeh - an au pair may be ya best bet! You'll get some housework done by
    them too!!
    
    S..x
11.1498THESUN::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Wed Sep 04 1996 19:267
    
    
    Scotty did you know that you could get a Sweedish Au pair for 30 quid a
    week to wash and clean and live with you?
    
    Chris
    :)))
11.1499CHEFS::KEIR_MWed Sep 04 1996 19:274
    Hahah!! Guess who'll be checking out the aupair info on the net very
    soon?!!!!
    
    S..x
11.1500SNARF!CHEFS::KEIR_MWed Sep 04 1996 19:271
    
11.1501KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 04 1996 19:276
    Chris can ya get me that info pretty sharpish please?
    
    Im running outta time mate......:-)
    
    
    Fanks!
11.1502THESUN::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Wed Sep 04 1996 19:326
    
    
    looking it up now Deb
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1503KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 04 1996 19:341
    cheers mate    :-)
11.1504THESUN::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Wed Sep 04 1996 19:3920
    
    
    
    here ya go:
    
    Tinies Au Pair agency in Reading:
    
    
    
    79 London Street
    Reading
    RG1 4QA
    
    Tel: +44 1734 512500
    
    there are loads more for different areas if you wanna call me and
    talk about it
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1505KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 04 1996 19:551
    thanks Chris  :-))
11.1506THESUN::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Wed Sep 04 1996 19:566
    
    
    No problems!
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1507RDGENG::MORRELLStrange things are afoot at the Circle-KWed Sep 04 1996 19:567
    Yes... I have a spare bed where the Swedish Au Pair can stay when she's
    not at work... but she must be tall & blonde.. and good looking....
    ;->>
    
    Cheers,
    
    	Rick.
11.1508THESUN::PLANTCThe Truth is out there.....Wed Sep 04 1996 19:576
    
    
    You can screen the Au Pairs Rick! :)))
    
    Chris
    :)
11.1509KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 04 1996 19:572
    erm, thaaaaaaanks guys, but Im sure Im capable of that aaaaaaall by my
    little self....:-)
11.1510KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Thu Sep 05 1996 12:421
    LFT: IM reeeeeeeally cold today, have to put my cardi back on..
11.1511CHEFS::KEIR_MThu Sep 05 1996 16:381
    LFT: Feeling hungry to the point of feeling sicky!!  80((((
11.1512KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Thu Sep 05 1996 16:391
    I haaaaaaaaate that!
11.1513KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Thu Sep 05 1996 16:392
    S..x r u on nice?
    
11.1514CHEFS::KEIR_MThu Sep 05 1996 16:433
    Yup! Why?
    
    S..x
11.1515CHEFS::KEIR_MThu Sep 05 1996 16:433
    Remember - I flash msg'd ya before!!??
    
    S..x
11.1516KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Thu Sep 05 1996 16:451
    I do - do it again mate....
11.1517CHEFS::KEIR_MThu Sep 05 1996 16:451
    done it!
11.1518KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Thu Sep 05 1996 16:461
    daaaaaaaaandy!
11.1519CHEFS::KEIR_MThu Sep 05 1996 16:471
    Super!
11.1520CHEFS::KEIR_MFri Sep 06 1996 14:564
    LFT: Being
    
    bbbbbooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeedddddddddddddddddddddddd!!!
    
11.1521FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Sep 08 1996 16:139
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	upset stomach for almost a solid week now! Tagamet HB and various
    antacid tablets do nothing. Very annoying....
    
    
    chico
11.1522RDGENG::MORRELLStrange things are afoot at the Circle-KMon Sep 09 1996 13:213
    LFT:
    
    	Loosing to ManU... :-<
11.1523CHEFS::KEIR_MMon Sep 09 1996 13:292
    hehehehehehehehehehehhheheheh!!
    
11.1524FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Sep 09 1996 15:586
    
    	LFT: being sick. The vise-grips that had been on my stomach are now
    on my lungs. blech...
    
    
    
11.1525CHEFS::KEIR_MMon Sep 09 1996 16:033
    Yeuch!!! 80((((((((((((((((((((((
    
    S..x
11.1526FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Sep 09 1996 16:488
    
    
    	You said it. Sounds like you have what I have. It's very annoying
    as I haven't been able to workout seriously for about 5 days now (I did
    a 4mile run on saturday, but it was slow). I'm just so tired all the
    time! Arg. Just take it one day at a time I guess....
    
    	chico
11.1527CHEFS::KEIR_MMon Sep 09 1996 16:545
    Yup - know how ya feel!!!
    
    Not sure if I'm gonna come back after lunch!!
    
    S..x
11.1528without a clue.JULIET::ROYERIntergalactic mind trip, on my Visa Card.Mon Sep 09 1996 19:396
11.1529CHEFS::KEIR_MMon Sep 09 1996 19:402
    That's it Dave!!
    S..x
11.1530WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMBut Seriously...Mon Sep 09 1996 19:5711
    
    
    well, not quite - Manchester United (an S not a C ) ;-)
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Shell
    
11.1531CHEFS::KEIR_MMon Sep 09 1996 19:593
    Same difference 80))))
    
    S..x
11.1532CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Sep 10 1996 15:277
    LFT: Being freezing in the office when no-one else is so you can't turn
    the heating up!! It's alright for them - they;re not sitting directly
    under an air vent where the cold air is coming from! (I have trousers,
    socks, boots, long sleeved top, waistcoat, AND blazer on - so it's not
    that I'm not suitably dressed!)
    
    S..x
11.1533FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Sep 10 1996 16:097
    
    
    	Gad s..x, we must be on the same plane or something....I'm forced
    to sit in a freezing training room this week! I'm actually bringing my
    coat with me today. Too chilly...
    
    chico
11.1534CHEFS::KEIR_MTue Sep 10 1996 16:138
    Awww you poor luv 80((((
    
    They have turned the heating up finally but it gets too hot!! we can't
    seem to get it just right!!!!
    
    No pleasin' some people!!
    
    S..x
11.1535FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Sep 10 1996 16:156
    
    
    	good luck there s..x! I know they can never seem to get it quite
    right over here either. :)
    
    
11.1536KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 11 1996 20:179
    tooooooooo many holiday requests to authorise!
    
    
    who neeeeeeeeds holidays!
    
    
    
    
    you need a holiday to recover from booking it!
11.1537TOUGHER THAN LEATHER OR RAWMFGFIN::TAYLOR_CHsparkyThu Sep 12 1996 07:141
11.1538FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Thu Sep 12 1996 15:555
11.1539How to warm up an officeNETCAD::MORRISONBob M. LKG2-A/R5 226-7570Fri Sep 13 1996 01:298
11.1540WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMchez moi...Wed Sep 18 1996 15:268
11.1541BEEZER::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 18 1996 15:273
11.1542WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMchez moi...Wed Sep 18 1996 15:287
11.1543BEEZER::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 18 1996 15:2910
11.1544BEEZER::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 18 1996 15:321
11.1545WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMchez moi...Wed Sep 18 1996 15:348
11.1546orrrrrrr!BEEZER::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 18 1996 15:365
11.1547RDGENG::MORRELLStrange things are afoot at the Circle-KWed Sep 18 1996 15:371
11.1548BEEZER::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 18 1996 15:406
11.1549WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMchez moi...Wed Sep 18 1996 15:409
11.1550BEEZER::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Wed Sep 18 1996 15:415
11.1551BEEZER::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 18 1996 15:413
11.1552WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMchez moi...Wed Sep 18 1996 15:5313
11.1553WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMchez moi...Thu Sep 19 1996 20:565
11.1554BEEZER::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Fri Sep 20 1996 14:371
11.1555POOKY::OROURKELet's go fly on a COMET!Fri Sep 20 1996 21:446
11.1556FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Sep 22 1996 17:4214
11.1557BEEZER::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Sep 23 1996 13:193
11.1558WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMA real good thing going..Mon Sep 23 1996 13:4614
11.1559BEEZER::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Sep 23 1996 13:511
11.1560VYGER::BEVERIDGEGMon Sep 23 1996 14:2310
11.1561BEEZER::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Sep 23 1996 14:241
11.1562CHEFS::KEIR_MWake me up when it's hometime!!Mon Sep 23 1996 15:246
11.1563BEEZER::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Sep 23 1996 15:241
11.1564FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Sep 23 1996 17:085
11.1565BEEZER::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Mon Sep 23 1996 17:101
11.1566NETCAD::DREYERI need a vacation!!Mon Sep 23 1996 19:087
11.1567AKOMI1::OROURKELet's go fly on a COMET!Mon Sep 23 1996 20:008
11.1568BABAGI::LUSSIERMon Sep 23 1996 21:497
11.1569BEEZER::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Tue Sep 24 1996 18:431
11.1570CHEFS::KEIR_MWake me up when it's hometime!!Tue Sep 24 1996 18:503
11.1571WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMI was only joking my dear..Wed Sep 25 1996 19:424
11.1572KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 25 1996 19:421
11.1573WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMI was only joking my dear..Wed Sep 25 1996 19:4310
11.1574CHEFS::KEIR_MWake me up when it's hometime!!Wed Sep 25 1996 19:443
11.1575KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 25 1996 19:443
11.1576WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMI was only joking my dear..Wed Sep 25 1996 19:455
11.1577KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 25 1996 19:466
11.1578WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMI was only joking my dear..Wed Sep 25 1996 19:475
11.1579CHEFS::KEIR_MWake me up when it's hometime!!Wed Sep 25 1996 19:471
11.1580KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 25 1996 19:475
11.1581WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMI was only joking my dear..Wed Sep 25 1996 19:5114
11.1582KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 25 1996 19:521
11.1583CHEFS::KEIR_MWake me up when it's hometime!!Wed Sep 25 1996 19:531
11.1584WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMI was only joking my dear..Wed Sep 25 1996 19:548
11.1585KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 25 1996 19:551
11.1586CHEFS::KEIR_MWake me up when it's hometime!!Wed Sep 25 1996 19:551
11.1587KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 25 1996 19:561
11.1588WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMI was only joking my dear..Wed Sep 25 1996 19:5810
11.1589CHEFS::KEIR_MWake me up when it's hometime!!Wed Sep 25 1996 19:591
11.1590WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMI was only joking my dear..Wed Sep 25 1996 20:004
11.1591RDGENG::MORRELLWell its not Carlton Palmer then....Wed Sep 25 1996 20:255
11.1592CHEFS::KEIR_MWake me up when it's hometime!!Wed Sep 25 1996 20:275
11.1593ho humKERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Wed Sep 25 1996 22:091
11.1594FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Thu Sep 26 1996 03:145
11.1595Rick you are one lucky stiff...8-)'sJULIET::ROYERIntergalactic mind trip, on my Visa Card.Thu Sep 26 1996 03:1511
11.1596WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMI was only joking my dear..Thu Sep 26 1996 14:4813
11.1597CHEFS::KEIR_MWake me up when it's hometime!!Thu Sep 26 1996 14:511
11.1598KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Thu Sep 26 1996 15:347
11.1599KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Thu Sep 26 1996 15:341
11.1600snarfKERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Thu Sep 26 1996 15:341
11.1601CHEFS::KEIR_MWake me up when it's hometime!!Thu Sep 26 1996 20:492
11.1602KERNEL::WRIGHTDTo Excel in a Life of Crime.....!Thu Sep 26 1996 20:491
11.1603CHEFS::KEIR_MWake me up when it's hometime!!Thu Sep 26 1996 20:535
11.1604blood y 'ell!FIXER::WRIGHTDI cant help being loveable!Thu Oct 17 1996 20:565
11.1605VYGER::BEVERIDGEGSun Oct 20 1996 11:577
11.1606FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Oct 20 1996 17:1610
11.1607CHEFS::KEIR_MThere can be only one....Mon Oct 21 1996 13:023
11.1608VYGER::BEVERIDGEGMon Oct 21 1996 13:105
11.1609CHEFS::KEIR_MThere can be only one....Mon Oct 21 1996 13:144
11.1610VYGER::BEVERIDGEGMon Oct 21 1996 13:197
11.1611CHEFS::KEIR_MThere can be only one....Mon Oct 21 1996 13:387
11.1612BEEZER::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Mon Oct 21 1996 14:206
11.1613WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMMon Oct 21 1996 15:0613
11.1614WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMMon Oct 21 1996 16:0710
11.1615FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Oct 21 1996 16:085
11.1616WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMMon Oct 21 1996 16:109
11.1617RDGENG::MORRELLWell its not Carlton Palmer then....Mon Oct 21 1996 16:103
11.1618WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMMon Oct 21 1996 16:1212
11.1619CHEFS::KEIR_MThere can be only one....Mon Oct 21 1996 16:153
11.1620WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMMon Oct 21 1996 16:2110
11.1621CHEFS::KEIR_MThere can be only one....Mon Oct 21 1996 16:247
11.1622WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMMon Oct 21 1996 16:2511
11.1623CHEFS::KEIR_MThere can be only one....Mon Oct 21 1996 16:253
11.1624WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMMon Oct 21 1996 16:2612
11.1625CHEFS::KEIR_MThere can be only one....Mon Oct 21 1996 16:273
11.1626WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMMon Oct 21 1996 16:298
11.1627CHEFS::KEIR_MThere can be only one....Mon Oct 21 1996 16:313
11.1628VYGER::HAMILTONSThe King of SchwingFri Oct 25 1996 02:001
11.1629CHEFS::KEIR_MThere can be only one....Fri Oct 25 1996 13:563
11.1630VYGER::HAMILTONSThe King of SchwingWed Oct 30 1996 13:421
11.1631KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Wed Oct 30 1996 13:584
11.1632WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMThu Oct 31 1996 13:3710
11.1633CHEFS::KEIR_MI am the one and only....Thu Oct 31 1996 13:405
11.1634WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMThu Oct 31 1996 13:4110
11.1635CHEFS::KEIR_MI am the one and only....Thu Oct 31 1996 13:435
11.1636VYGER::BEVERIDGEGThu Oct 31 1996 15:328
11.1637CHEFS::KEIR_MI am the one and only....Thu Oct 31 1996 15:343
11.1638WOTVAX::LEVERSEDGEMI vont to be alone..Thu Oct 31 1996 18:189
11.1639CHEFS::KEIR_MI am the one and only....Thu Nov 07 1996 13:004
11.1640IVOS01::PIGGOTTThu Nov 14 1996 00:046
11.1641Positive energies too.JULIET::ROYERIntergalactic mind trip, on my Visa Card.Thu Nov 14 1996 18:489
11.1642CHEFS::KEIR_MI am the one and only....Fri Nov 15 1996 12:337
11.1643CHEFS::KEIR_MI am the one and only....Fri Nov 15 1996 12:335
11.1644FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Nov 17 1996 16:3513
11.1645CHEFS::KEIR_MI am the one and only....Mon Nov 18 1996 15:403
11.1646scary!AKOMI2::OROURKEMoonlighting as a Witch!Wed Nov 27 1996 06:127
11.1647CHEFS::KEIR_MI am the one and only....Thu Nov 28 1996 15:103
11.1648KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Thu Nov 28 1996 15:142
11.1649CHEFS::KEIR_MI am the one and only....Thu Nov 28 1996 15:1819
11.1649POOKY::OROURKEMoonlighting as a Witch!Wed Dec 04 1996 16:554
11.1650ouch!POOKY::OROURKEMoonlighting as a Witch!Mon Dec 09 1996 17:236
11.1651FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Mon Dec 09 1996 18:055
11.1652VYGER::BEVERIDGEGMon Dec 09 1996 18:158
11.1653I did that once, hurt my butt, and now it still does at times.JULIET::ROYERNothing stuffs a stocking like a nice leg!Mon Dec 09 1996 18:4413
11.1654KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Mon Dec 09 1996 18:514
11.1655FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Dec 10 1996 03:428
11.1656RDGENG::MORRELLI'm a Kelly Family groupie...Tue Dec 10 1996 15:289
11.1657JULIET::ROYERNothing stuffs a stocking like a nice leg!Tue Dec 10 1996 18:088
11.1658Well, I guess Leeds is out.JULIET::ROYERNothing stuffs a stocking like a nice leg!Tue Jan 07 1997 18:445
11.1659RDGENG::MORRELLIf it makes you happy... then why are you so sad?Tue Jan 07 1997 19:018
11.16608-))))))))))KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Tue Jan 07 1997 19:022
11.1661RDGENG::MORRELLIf it makes you happy... then why are you so sad?Tue Jan 07 1997 19:031
11.1662CHEFS::KEIR_MI am the one and only....Wed Jan 08 1997 13:113
11.1663JULIET::ROYERNew Year - New Attitude!Wed Jan 08 1997 20:0712
11.1664KERNEL::WRIGHTDTue Jan 14 1997 19:155
11.1665VYGER::BEVERIDGEGWed Jan 15 1997 17:241
11.1666VYGER::BEVERIDGEGThu Jan 16 1997 11:432
11.1667KERNEL::WRIGHTDThu Jan 16 1997 13:283
11.1668VYGER::BEVERIDGEGThu Jan 16 1997 13:536
11.1669KERNEL::WRIGHTDThu Jan 16 1997 14:006
11.1670yuck!POOKY::OROURKEY did U come down to a world so cold?Sun Jan 19 1997 00:594
11.1671CSLALL::BERGERONIn a Blaze of GlorySun Jan 19 1997 22:393
11.1672CHEFS::KEIR_MThe one and only!Mon Jan 20 1997 12:464
11.1673POWDML::VENTURAIt's a girl!Tue Jan 28 1997 00:565
    LFT:  being back to work... I miss my little munchkin!  She's already
    4 months old!
    
    Holly
    
11.1674FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Jan 28 1997 15:226
    
    
    	But we're glad to have you back!!!!
    
    
    	chico
11.1675KERNEL::WRIGHTDWed Feb 05 1997 15:495
    LFT: I just found out that my mum no longer has a bloody job!
    
    Ive advised her to Sue - she can win this no worries.
    
    Off_home_to_See_my_mummy
11.1676CHEFS::KEIR_MThe one and only!Wed Feb 05 1997 15:501
    Why??? what's happened??
11.1677KERNEL::WRIGHTDWed Feb 05 1997 18:115
    she went in today and they said they couldnt get approval for her
    permanent position.  Although she employed her in December as a
    permanent member of staff.  Lot of politics going on here though.
    
    ANOTHER American company I hasten to add!!!
11.1678KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Wed Feb 05 1997 18:182
    
    So what's ya mum gonna do luvvy...
11.1679KERNEL::WRIGHTDWed Feb 05 1997 18:249
    she's oing to make herself a nice cup of tea and a snadwich...
    
    
    Then she's printing her cs to send to companys - and then she's going
    to sue the company and the agency involved.
    
    
    tut tut
    
11.1680CHEFS::KEIR_MThe one and only!Wed Feb 05 1997 18:453
    Good for her!! Too right an' all!!
    
    S..x
11.1681KERNEL::WRIGHTDThu Feb 06 1997 12:025
    LFT: some people just make me SOOOOOOOOOO sick with their smarmy
    crawling - I really wanna puke!
    
    
    Deb
11.1682KERNEL::WRIGHTDThu Feb 13 1997 19:494
    LFT:  hearing news that leaves me in a complete and utter state of
    shock.
    
    Deb_very_sad.
11.1683JULIET::ROYERNew Year - New Attitude!Thu Feb 20 1997 02:586
    Deb, 
    
    Sorry about the news, Darling, whatever it was.  Hope things are better
    now.... Power Hug coming your way.
    
    Dave
11.1684KERNEL::WRIGHTDThu Feb 20 1997 13:024
    Awww - Thanks Dave!!!!
    
    
    ***hugs*** back atcha babe!
11.1685c'est la vie!KERNEL::WRIGHTDFri Feb 21 1997 12:391
    LFT: being peeved off today with everyone dumping on me!
11.1686FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Feb 23 1997 20:389
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	not being able to make it to dinner friday night! We ended up
    having the test at the end of class, and I didn't leave Worcester until
    8:45pm. Hope you all had a good time.
    
    	chico
11.1687KERNEL::LEVERSEDGEMMon Feb 24 1997 18:387
    LFT:  Men
    
    
    
    
    
    (no disrespect to those in  here intended !!!)
11.1688KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Mon Feb 24 1997 18:394
    
    Know the feeling mate.
    
    Pol 8-)
11.1689KERNEL::LEVERSEDGEMMon Feb 24 1997 18:4015
    
    
    
    I could gladly choke one right now Pol !!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    
    :-((
    
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.1690KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Mon Feb 24 1997 18:422
    
    Wot's 'e been upto..??  8-(
11.1691KERNEL::LEVERSEDGEMMon Feb 24 1997 18:4712
    
    
    
    he aint speaking to me !!! And before you ask I havent the faintest
    idea why !!!
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Shell
11.1692KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Mon Feb 24 1997 18:493
    
    Ah well that's their secret, mens... they sulk but forget to tell you
    why, half the time they don't even know themselves...
11.1693KERNEL::LEVERSEDGEMMon Feb 24 1997 18:504
    
    
    
    well I told him to let me know when he grows up....
11.1694KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Mon Feb 24 1997 18:534
    
    You'll be drawing ya pension by then 8-)
    
    
11.1695KERNEL::LEVERSEDGEMMon Feb 24 1997 18:5513
    
    
    
    probably babe.. in the meantime I think I'm gonna steer clear of men
    ...
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Shell
11.1696KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Mon Feb 24 1997 19:182
    
    Bleeeeeeeeeeeeeess
11.1697KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Mon Feb 24 1997 20:163
    
    What a lovely evening, the weather is awful, I'm gonna get soaked going
    to college..
11.1698KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Mon Feb 24 1997 20:282
    
    Night all...
11.1699setupforKERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Mon Feb 24 1997 20:291
    
11.1700snarfKERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Mon Feb 24 1997 20:291
    
11.1701This may helpJULIET::ROYERNew Year - New Attitude!Thu Feb 27 1997 19:307
    Cure for "men" - locate and purchase two copies of the book. "Men are
    from Mars, women are from Venus", you read one, and the dude reads the
    other one, thereby you learn how communications differ.
    
    I have my copy.
    
    Dave,
11.1702KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Thu Feb 27 1997 19:322
    
    I'm orf home, speak to you all tomorrow..
11.1703POWDML::VENTURAGreat Goodley Moogley!Mon Mar 10 1997 19:344
    LFT:  Baby ear infections.  Poor Alycia .. she didn't know what was
    going on.  She ran a fever of 102 degrees on Friday.
    
    H
11.1704KERNEL::LEVERSEDGEMtime, love and tendernessTue Mar 18 1997 16:5514
    
    
    LFT 1: burgers that make you choke
    
    LFT 2: Lies/deceit
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.1705CSLALL::BERGERONIn a Blaze of GloryTue Mar 18 1997 17:026
    Shell,
    
    	Don't eat the burgers that choke you then..
    
    
    	S
11.1706One day everything seemed okay...IVOSS1::PIGGOTTMon Mar 24 1997 21:1511
    LFT...
    
    ...my sister-in-law found a lump in her breast last Sunday...went into
    the doctor on Monday...found out that it was malignant and had a
    masectomy last Wednesday...doctor said it is a very *angry*
    cancer...one that spreads fast and furious.  She's got a very
    optimistic attitude and will learn more this week. My brother is the
    basket case.  Lots of prayers could be used for them and their two kids
    (ages 4 and 6).  The road is a long one in front of us.
    
    Shilah
11.1707RDGENG::MORRELLSlip Away....Mon Mar 24 1997 21:267
    Sorry to hear that Shilah....
    
    I hope everything works out for your sister-in-law & your brother...
    
    Hugs,
    
    	Rick.
11.1708KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Tue Mar 25 1997 11:234
    
    Oh Shilah that is sad......  give them my prayers & hugs..
    
    Paula
11.1709KERNEL::KEIRMTue Mar 25 1997 12:374
    Shilah..so sorry to hear that....try and keep positive although I know
    it must be difficult...prayers to them.
    
    S..x
11.1710FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Mar 25 1997 16:315
    
    
    	My prayers for your family, shilah.....
    
    chico
11.1711KERNEL::LEVERSEDGEMtime, love and tendernessTue Mar 25 1997 17:159
    
    
    Oh Shilah I'm really sorry to hear that.. Prayers & Positive Energy to
    your family..
    
    
    
    
    Shelley
11.1712KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Tue Mar 25 1997 17:352
    
    Hiya
11.1713Sorry to hear the bad news.JULIET::ROYERGreening up our lives.Wed Mar 26 1997 19:4110
    Best wishes, prayers, and all things good.
    
    Shi,
    
    If she is still with digital, she is leaving soon, contact Judy Kilgore 
    in Colorado Springs.  Judy lost both breasts to cancer some time ago,
    so she is a really great support person.  A1, she is at CXO, and she
    has been on vaxmail.  ELF should still have her.
    
    Dave
11.1714Gorsh!JULIET::ROYERGreening up our lives.Tue Apr 01 1997 20:3910
    Thursday evening last, while eating with a coworker from NYC, I got a
    page to a strange number in Colorado Springs, Called and spoke with the
    Lt. from the Fire Department, fire in the Basement area of my house,
    with about 50-80 K $ in damage.  My poor PC is melted, and my Genealogy
    is history.  Now I have to go home 4-4, and try to get everything fixed
    up again.
    
    Luckily I have insurance.
    
    Dave
11.1715FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Apr 01 1997 21:297
    
    
    	Gad, Dave. That sucks. I'm sorry to hear about the fire. I hope you
    didn't lose too many personal items. Good luck to you...
    
    
    chico
11.1716AKOMI2::OROURKECalifornia Dreamin' April 2, 1997Tue Apr 01 1997 22:229
    
    Dave,
    
    I know it is a clique, but the important thing is that you were not
    hurt.  Things can be replaced, and you'll always have the memories.
    Hope you can clean things up soon.
    
    /jen
    
11.1717KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Wed Apr 02 1997 11:443
    
    morning, well I can see you all missed me.... huh I don't make THAt
    much noise, do I..???  8-))))
11.1718NETCAD::MORRISONBob M. LKG2-A/R5 226-7570Thu Apr 03 1997 00:195
>    with about 50-80 K $ in damage.  My poor PC is melted, and my Genealogy
>    is history.  Now I have to go home 4-4, and try to get everything fixed

  I'm sorry to hear this. Most household goods are replaceable, but it sounds 
like the genealogy is going to take a lot of work to replace. Good luck.
11.1719KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Thu Apr 10 1997 15:022
    
    It's the 2nd anniversary of my grandad's death today.. feel abit sad..
11.1720VYGER::BEVERIDGEGThu Apr 10 1997 15:062
    
    Sorry to hear that Pols, big hugs to you.......
11.1721KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Thu Apr 10 1997 15:072
    
    Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanx
11.1722VYGER::BEVERIDGEGThu Apr 10 1997 15:105
     I know how you feel luv, all my grandparents have gone. I still have
    the memories tho....
    
    
    
11.1723KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Thu Apr 10 1997 15:114
    
    I know but you still feel guilty don't you cos you don't think about
    them all the time, I feel sorry for my nan whose left behind, her whole
    life is soo empty now...
11.1724VYGER::BEVERIDGEGThu Apr 10 1997 15:168
    Don't worry about not thinking about them all the time Pols, they
    understand. You never totally forget about them, they are always there,
    but not always at the front of your mind. It comes to us all
    eventually, as long as your nan has her family round her, that's as
    much as can be done.
    
    
    x
11.1725VYGER::BEVERIDGEGSun Apr 13 1997 10:437
    
    LFT: Dreading my appointment with the consultant at the hospital
         tomorrow morning.
    
    
    
    gav
11.1726FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun Apr 13 1997 16:2013
    
    
    	LFT:
    
    	knowing I screwed up on my test friday. I had planned on spending
    most of the day studying before class, but received a call to help a
    buddy load his motorcycle onto his truck and then a call to help my dad
    put leaf springs on his truck (he just had an angioplasty and shouldn't
    be straining himself). Didn't get to review the material properly and
    screwed up the test badly. Arg. At least my average will hold my up ok,
    but I hate doing that.
    
    chico
11.1727KERNEL::JOHNSONPThings that make you go mmmmmmmmm!Mon Apr 14 1997 13:052
    
    Good Luck gav
11.1728KERNEL::JOHNSONPAll is not lost.... YET!Thu May 01 1997 14:242
    
    LFT:  Not seeing my boyfriend for 6 weeks after this weekend...
11.1729NETCAD::DREYERI need a vacation!!Thu May 01 1997 18:1612
>    LFT:  Not seeing my boyfriend for 6 weeks after this weekend...


Ouch!  Hope you have lots of batteries ;->



Just kidding!!!!!


Lola
11.1730KERNEL::JOHNSONPAll is not lost.... YET!Thu May 01 1997 18:322
    
    Oh Lola u're vewy wude..
11.1731SMURF::WALLACELife's a beach, then you dive!Mon May 05 1997 19:072
    yeee..ee.eee.ee..ee.eees.....verrrrr.rr.r..r..r.r.rrrrrrrr..y
    rrr.r.r..rrrrr..rrr.rrrrrrr..ude!
11.1732KERNEL::JOHNSONPAll is not lost.... YET!Tue May 06 1997 15:122
    
    LFT:  Not seeing Luke for 40 days....
11.1733NETCAD::DREYERI need a vacation!!Tue May 06 1997 17:474
Bummer, Paula.  Does he travel for is job, is this why you have to be apart for
so long?

Lola
11.1734KERNEL::JOHNSONPAll is not lost.... YET!Tue May 06 1997 18:282
    
    No he's at university in Wales...
11.1735KERNEL::JOHNSONPAll is not lost.... YET!Mon May 12 1997 18:382
    
    LFT:  34 days til I see Luke now 8-((
11.1736KERNEL::LEVERSEDGEMMUFC OKTue May 20 1997 14:125
    
    
    
    LFT : Eric Cantona retiring from football :-(((((((((((((
    
11.1737yukKERNEL::JOHNSONPAll is not lost.... YET!Tue May 20 1997 14:152
    
    LFT:  Eric Cantona making movies....
11.1738KERNEL::LEVERSEDGEMMUFC OKTue May 20 1997 14:163
    
    
    OI.. watch it pal
11.1739KERNEL::JOHNSONPAll is not lost.... YET!Tue May 20 1997 14:172
    
    WOT..??
11.1740KERNEL::LEVERSEDGEMcheerful bunnyThu May 22 1997 20:083
    
    
    LFT:  Ricks News :-(
11.1741POWDML::VENTURAGreat Goodley Moogley!Fri May 23 1997 01:378
    LFT:  Possible potential legal battles with my landlord.  She's
    refusing to de-lead our apartment.  Her reaction was "I'm more than
    willing to buy a few buckets of paint".  
    
    aaarrrggghhh!!!
    
    Holly
    
11.1742KERNEL::JOHNSONPAll is not lost.... YET!Fri May 23 1997 17:592
    
    LFT:  MEN
11.1743FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Sun May 25 1997 21:034
    
    	Hey now...
    
    
11.1744KERNEL::JOHNSONPAll is not lost.... YET!Wed Jun 04 1997 15:082
    
    LFT:  Life can be cr$p sometimes...
11.1745FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Jun 04 1997 16:074
    
    	ayup, it sure can. C'mere for a {HUG}...
    
    
11.1746KERNEL::JOHNSONPAll is not lost.... YET!Wed Jun 04 1997 16:152
    
    Ah thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanx  (huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug)
11.1747FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Wed Jun 04 1997 23:365
    
    
    anytime.