Conference vaxcat::friends

    
    Hi!
    
    I have some friends that want to go white water rafting this fall in
    the New England/New York area.
    
    I'm looking for any recommendations from folks that have been and had
    good luck with any rafting companies.
    
    Thanks.
    
    /jen
    

    I hear "Target Sports" has a great reputation.  The organize trips from
    MA/NH area to all over, including white water and ballooning
    
    Jt

    
    	If you've never been in a balloon.... DO IT if you get the chance!
    
    	peaceful and VERY relaxing....unless of course you land in a tree
    	or a river!!!  ;^)
    
    	>M<

	I've also heard good things about Target Sport Adventures...give 'em a
buzz....


chico (with no idea where they're located)

    
    
    Try flying
    
    Highly recommended! Giding is o.k too if you have a strong stomach!
    
    I definitely  want a try at skydiving!
    
    Any other skydivers out there?
    
    Chris
    
    

    
    Thanks...I'll try to look up Target in the phone book.
    
    And I've *ALWAYS* wanted to go ballooning....almost had the chance in
    Australia but didn't.
    
    As for skydiving, my sister-in-law tried it last year for the first
    time and loved it!
    
    /jen
    

	we had a bunch of the guys here at work go....they all loved it! strange
bunch....;*)



chico

    
    /jen,
    
    My mother went white water rafting in the Kennebeck river in Maine.  
    
    If you want, I'll find out the specifics.
    
    Wen

    Can I come white water rafting.. it sounds really fun.. :->
    
    Rick.

    
    
    I heard an ad this morning on the car radio for a place called
    New England White Water Associates.  You may want to look into that one
    also.
    
    Have fun!
    
    Terrie
    :*)
    

    
    
    terrie beat me to it...I was going to suggest the n.e. white water
    associates.  don't know where they are, and i forget the number...so
    i'll keep an ear out for it on the radio...
    
    i have always wanted to go, and came very close to doing so in june,
    but a final put an end to that pipe dream.  skydiving is also another
    wish.  now ballooning....THAT was incredible.  my cousin used to date a
    guy out in san diego who had that as his side business, so when i went
    out a year and a half ago to visit her, she managed to get me a flight
    in his balloon...it was just beyond description...i almost fell out on
    the landing, but it was still sooooooo much fun...
    
    
    -raq
    
    
    

    What node is Bed and Breakfast on?
    
    Jt

    
    ABBOTT::BED_AND_BREAKFAST
    
    	That's what I have listed.
    
    	>M<

    I've modified note 49.14 so that you can just hit KP7 to add
    BED_AND_BREAKFAST to your notebook.
    
    Holly
    

	Ok, I need some HELP...:)


	I've decided I just have to learn this Unix thingy and went and picked
up a book called Unix Made Easy (it's over 1000pages long! easy my arse!). Now I
just need a unix system to play on! Do any of you have a lonely account I could
play around with, or do you manage a unix system that I could get a small
account of my own on? I need to be able to actually use this stuff to learn
it...just reading the book is sooo boring! ack...%*}


	thanks peeps....

	chico

    Chico,
    Been out in the sun too long??? Learning U*ix! Geesh!
    It's the most user unfriendly, hackers friendly operating system
    around!
    
    Charles

    
    
    	yup....that's why I'm learning it! Too much un*x out there to
    ignore it anymore....
    
    
    	chico
    
    p.s. - I've already got some help on getting on a Un*x system!!
    
    

> up a book called Unix Made Easy (it's over 1000pages long! easy my arse!).

  If you think that's bad, "Unix Made Complicated" is 5000 pages long!
  I had had 10 years of experience with VMS and similar operating system when
I first tried Unix three years ago. My first reaction was "This operating 
system must have been designed by a hacker on drugs". So of course it had to
become the "gold standard".

    
    
    	my feelings exactly!!!!
    
    

Could someone give me a pointer where to look for help...

My brother-in-law, a dentist in Westborough needs to locate a former Digital
Employee who was layed off about 4 months ago.  This guy had extensive work
done, and then just disappeared, leaving a huge unpaid bill behind.

The problem, Digital's John Hancock Insurance just tracks accounts by badge
number, and he needs this guys social security number.

Any suggestions how he should go about doing this?

Thanks,
Laura

    
    	Shouldn't this guys badge number be on SOME papers in his office
    	that was once filled out?  
    
    	I know that I've had to fill out paperwork and put my badge number
    	on it!
    
    	Good luck to him
    
    	>M<

    Lola,
    
    You could try your Human Resources people.  They (if its the same as
    over here) probably keep a record of ex-employees last known addresses. 
    Now, it is unlikely that they will provide you with that kind of
    information, but a friendly and helpful HR person might be prepared to 
    forward a letter, unopened, to the individual.
    
    Jackie.

O.K., he has the guys badge number and his last know address.  The problem is,
he's an ex employee, so the badge number doesn't really count for much to track
him by unless he can go through human resources.  He doesn't live at his old 
address anymore.  I did give my B-I-L the phone number for the manager of human
resources, but don't think they're allowed to give out that sort of info.

BUT...I do have a ::FRIEND who's going to see if a friend can track him down...
HUGS!!!!

Thanks for the suggestions, I knew I could count on you!!

Mega hugs,
Lola

    
    HELP!  It's me again!
    
    I'm trying to find out some information on a place called "Medieval
    Times".   It is supposedly a dinner theater type place like the
    Medieval Manor but much bigger with horse jousting and everything.
    
    All I know is it is located in Northern New Jersey or Southern NY close
    to the highway.   I need a town name or something to track this down!
    
    I've looked thru some AAA guides but haven't had much luck.
    
    Anybody heard of this?
    
    /jen

    
    
    
    
    I've seen the place in Orlando..but never attended. It was a huge 
    castle...looked neat!
    
    
    Chris

    Jen,
    
    The woman who used to sit next to me lives in Jersey and I think she's
    gone there a couple of times.  I'll see if I can put her in touch with
    you and she can tell you more about it, I hope.
    
    
    Ginny

    
    Thanks GInny.
    
    That would be great!   See what a super resource we have here.   These
    are the things to be missed....not the politics and stupidity.
    
    /jen
    

    
    Well I'm back again!
    
    I got the answer to my medieval question!  I love the network we have
    here!
    
    Anyhow....here's another question.   I'm going into Boston this Friday
    with some friends to see PHANTOM OF THE OPERA! :)
    
    We're going to meet at the Boylston T-stop area and we're looking for
    a nice place to have dinner.  It needs to be reasonable price wise and
    have a mixed menu.
    
    Any suggestions?
    
    /jen
    

    
    I have a book which lists Bed & Breakfast places.  Is there a notes
    file somewhere regarding the Cape or the Islands.
    Thanks
    A
    

    As far as I know the ABBOTT::BED_AND_BEAKFAST has several notes on the
    cape/Marha's Vineyard etc....
    
    Jt

    
    Also, there is a Massachusetts file too I belive....
    
    /jen
    

    
    Thanks jt and /jen, I'll check them out.  I have a free night stay at
    any B&B listed in this book, I thought the Vinyard would be nice and
    quiet the second week of September.
    
    A
    

    
    Jen,
    
    If you want a sandwich....there's the Broadway deli right across the 
    street from the Wang Center...otherwise, my favorite is only a 10
    minute walk away, The Hard Rock Cafe.
    
    Wen

    Attention all you folks who know Leominster/Fitchburg like the back of
    your hand!
    
    	I'm looking for a land mark, (ie Dunkin's, BK or someother place
    that is open at 9:30 a.m. on a Sunday) that is Very easy to getto from
    route 2.  I'm planning on meeting other motorcyclist from all around
    the MA/NH area and I was hoping we could meet some place easy to get to
    for all of us - some coming north on 190 to 2 west and some coming
    south on 13 to 2 west.
    
    Thanks 
    Jt

    
    jt/ what about Denny's at the Searstown Mall.
    
    A
    

    Good suggestion and big yellow sign.
    
    Jt

    
    They are also having specials on their Grand Slams!!
    

    Also, you could meet at the K-mart plaza.  Exit 30.  It's RIGHT there
    at the end of the exit.
    
    Holly
    

Or the parking lot at Sheraton, exit 31b...just take a right at the first set
of lights, and you're there.  The exit at K-Mart is always very hectic, hard to
cross the street.  One of the worst intersections in Leominster/Fitchburg IMO.

Lola

    Think Coffee ladies......BK is better than nothing.
    
    But thanks for the suggestions :^)
    
    Jt

There's a whole series of fast food places in the Searstown parking lot. Denny's
and BK and McDonald's and I think there's even an Abdow's (and Pizza Hut which
isn't open that early)

One of my buddy's here just bought a brand new Harley and brought it in today.
Looks like a Sportster...

Jim

    looks like we'll be meeting at the BK off of the route 12/Merriam ave
    exit.
    
    Thanks folks!
    
    
    Jt

    
    Is there anyone out there that knows NT and TCP/IP well?
    
    I'm having a problem making any IP connections from an NT machine.  It
    seems to be configured correctly, but I can't get out on the network. 
    I've been testing by trying to ping different nodes with no success.
    
    Wen

    
    Hey Wen !
    
    	Check the jumper settings on the ethernet adapter. Default settings
    are for the twisted pair.. if you're using the ethernet then you gotta
    get change the jumper settings... 
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    Ravi.
    *8)

The network seems to be pretty hosed the last couple of days. I haven't been
able to get out onto the WWW this week.

CM

    
    Hey Ravi,  Thank you very much!  It was the jumper setting. :)
    
    Working fine now.
    
    Wen

    
    Wen !!
    
    	You're always welcome ! *8))))
    
    Ravi.
    *8)

Does anyone know of a Notary in the Greater Maynard Area?


Hamp

Hamp,

Jennifer in the credit union on 5-4 in the Mill is a notary!


Lola

Thanks, Lola!

Hamp

    Hamp .. Dawn Santos is a notery as well.  She's in PKO I believe.
    
    Holly
    

Really!  Cool!

Thanx!

    
    i didn't know dawnne was a notary...
    
    and if all those fail, practically everyone here in the law department
    is a notary...or so it seems...
    
    

Does anyone know what the RMV charges to have a car title issued/transfered?


(This is in the Common Wealth of Massachusetts.)

Hamp

    I dunno... how much have you got? 8^)
    
    $50 when my son did his a few weeks ago.

    
    HELP!  
    
    Does anybody have a way of contacting Mike Laplume?  Tracie would like
    me to invite he and Barb to her ::FRIENDS party and I seem to have
    misplaced his phone number.  If someone has it please get in touch with
    me!
    
    Thanks!
    
    /jen
    

Does anyone know if the Registry of Motor Vehicals office in Worcester
opens late on Thursdays?  I thought at one time they extended their
hours until 7:00pm.  Does anyone know for sure?


Of course, their phone is busy. :-(



Thanks.

Hamp

    Still are open until 7:00 but it is MOBBED - some things can be done at
    the Greendale mall - down by the food court
    
    Jt

I'm looking for a tape dispenser like the scotch tape one on most desks but for
masking tape. I need to do a bunch of taping in the near future and if I can't
find one to buy, I'll have to build one. Has anyone seen one in a store
(butchers/deli's seem to have them)

CM

re .59

thanks, Jt.

    
    
    hamp...
    
    the only thing, as far as i remember, that the express registry thing
    will do is renew licences...
    
    the registry in leominster is open til 7 on thursday nites as well...but
    it'll probably be mobbed as well...
    
    
    -raq
    
    
    

    Re .58
    
>Does anyone know if the Registry of Motor Vehicals office in Worcester
>opens late on Thursdays?  I thought at one time they extended their
>hours until 7:00pm.  Does anyone know for sure?

    I fondly (?) remember making my way along Main Street to the Registry
    Office one night in January, 1986... it was snowing..and yes.. they
    were open until 7pm then. Yes Jt, they were very busy too.
    
    I went there to collect a copy of the Massachusetts road laws.. well,
    I'd been driving about for a week then and I figured it was time I
    found out what I should/should not be doing.
    
    And raq, here's one for the Law Department to sink its teeth into - 
    according to Massachusetts Law, Australian drivers' licences are NOT 
    recognized in Massachusetts. This means that if an Aussie is driving, and 
    he has a road accident, according to the law as she is wrote, the insurance
    company could legitimately claim that the Aussie driver is
    unlicensed.. and thereby avoid pay-out. In fact, a corporation's
    liability in such circumstances could be enormous.
    
    Note that this situation is an anomaly in the law, as written.. but it
    has a lot to do with why I worry every time I drive in MA. And it never
    ceases to amaze me how readily AVIS will hand me the keys to a rental
    car just based on my Australian drivers' licence.
    
    (I raised this matter with the relevant authorities there and they all
    shook their heads and said "but o' course that's an obvious mistake we
    will quickly rectify...." .... but has it been...?? I'd really like to
    know.)
    
    Don
    *8-)
    
    

>    I went there to collect a copy of the Massachusetts road laws.. well,

  Did you get one? Shortly after registering my car in MA seven years ago, I
tried twice to get a copy and they didn't have any to give out. One time they
said they were reserved for people who are getting new (NOT transferred)
driver's licenses. So I gave up. (I learned to drive in NH.)
  As most Bay Staters know, the Registry and common sense are mutually
exclusive.

    Re .64
    
    Yes, Bob. In fact, they gave me two copies.. one I kept and probably
    still possess here somewhere, and one which I forwarded to Digital's
    Law Dept. here in support of what I'd discovered.
    
    Don
    *8-)

Can someone point me to the conference/note where there was a discussion
about the validity of a request for business cards to be sent
to the Make-A-Wish Foundation in care of Craig Sherwood?  He was
reported to be a boy with a brain tumor trying to get in to the 
Guiness Book of Records.

Hamp

    
    Hey Hamp,
    
    That isn't the kid in England is it?  Connie Chung just did a big story
    on him asking people to *STOP* sending cards/letters/business cards.
    He's in the Guiness Book already with an unbeatable record and has 
    recovered.  The cards are nothing but a burden now.
    
    /jen
    

    
    
    
    	Anyone got a un*x account I can borrow/use? CM was kind enough to
    set me up with one, but now he's gone and so's the account I was using!
    I'm only using the account to learn un*x and it's not for mass data
    storage etc (very little disk space used).
    
    	Can anyone help me out? I was really getting into learning un*x and
    now I'm SOL! Help!
    
    
    chico

    
    
    ...and a snarf for good measure....
    
    ;*)_
    
    
    chico

    
    Hi!
    
    Has anybody heard of a Patsy Cline performance that is supposedly
    happening in Sudbury sometime soon?   I'd like to get my dad tickets
    but haven't been able to find any advertisements for the show to 
    know where/when/who!
    
    Where is the globe calendar or pheonix when I need them!
    
    /jen
    

    
    
    can anyone tell me which conference I can request for an old
    record?
    
    		thanks, BR

    Re .70
    
    I thought Patsy Cline died in a plane accident in the '60s..???
    
    Don

	ya got me....:*)


chico

    
    Patsy Cline is dead......
    
    Someone is a bit behind the times.......hehehehe
    ;^)
    
    Mack
    

    
    Hmmm....perhaps it was a Patsy Cline tribute type show.
    
    I told you I really don't have much info on it....I was hoping to get
    tickets for my dad's b=day.
    
    But.....I can't even think of a place in Sudbury that would put on a
    show like that.  Maybe I'll call ticketmaster.
    
    /jen
    

    
    Hey /jen, what's is worth to ya ? :-)))
    
    Rich
    
    

    Re .75
    
    /jen,
    
    Just so you know, about 3 months ago, our Multicultural TV service
    showed a 1-hr documentary about Patsy Cline. It featured her singing
    the songs that made her famous - she was outstanding as a female
    Country & Western singer. Her life had been rather unfortunate, in that
    apart from the final airtrip in which she lost her life, she'd earlier
    been victim of a horrific auto accident, leading to her having to have
    had extensive facial reconstruction by plastic surgery. But if nothing
    else, Patsy Cline was a fighter.
    
    I feel sure that the TV service to which I've referred WILL be
    repeating this documentary sometime in the near future. If your Dad is
    a keen Patsy Cline fan, I'll be pleased to videotape the program for
    him. That then would be in PAL recording standard and would need to be
    converted to NTSC recording standard before one could watch the program
    on a USA type TV set. You would need to get the tape I produce
    converted but that shouldn't cost "an arm and a leg" and there are many
    professional converters' services available. (I've tried doing that in
    the past but I've been unsuccessful.)
    
    Don
    *8-)

    
    
    
    I saw an add for the Patsy Cline review..either in Ottawa or in 
    Boston..can't remember where..but it is a tribute.
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    	Din't Patsy "fall to pieces"	Sissy Spaceshot did a movie
    					on her life story.
    
    
    /Bob

    Sissy Spaceshot did portray a C & W singer.. but it was NOT Patsy
    Cline. It was another one who led a very hard life.. can't think of
    who.
    
    But Patsy did sing "I Fall to Pieces" or whatever it was called.
    
    Don
    *8-)

    I believe Sissy Spachek (or however you spell it) portrayed Loretta
    Lynn.
    
    Lori

You got it Lori, she did a good job too!  I think the spelling is Spacek!?

Lola

    Re .82
    
    Lola,
    
    That reminds me of a joke I heard yesterday.
    
    "What's a specimen??"
    
    
    It's an Italian astronaut.
    
    hehehe
    
    Don
    *8-)

    re -1
    
    :-)))
    
    Jackie

	Hahahaha!!!  So did I!!  Cute one, Don!

	Hugs,
	Lola

Ok Gang..

Does anyone out there know Portuguese? (How to speak it?)  If so, drop me some
email.  I need a crash course.  ;->


Hamp

Hamp,

I work with a couple of Portugese women that speak the language fluently.  What
in particular do you want to know?

Lola

	probably dirty stuff...:)

Weeelllll....  ;->

>Weeelllll....  ;->

Weeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllll, I sent you mail this morning with all the
translations you requested and more :-)  Did you get them?

Lola

Yes.  (Didn't I reply to you?)


Thanks.  *smooch*


Hamp

>Yes.  (Didn't I reply to you?)


Whoops, sure did, but it snuck right by me!!!

Hugs!!

Lola

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I'm doing good.  Things are very busy here too.  Which is good.  Hard to 
believe I have been here a month tomorrow!  Time flies when you're having fun.

That is about all the excitement I have in my life.  OOPPPS I forgot, I am 
looking at new cars too.  But that is all.

Well time to run... Thanks for keeping in touch.  Can I ask a favor?  Don 
sent me a note and I was not able to respond (failure) can you post a note 
for him to try again?  

thanks Hun!


Smiles,
Denny

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    Hey!! Denny and >M< !!!! Yahooo!!!
    
    Glad to see you folks in here again!!
    Welcome back!
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    
    Does anyone currently have access to the latest Denied Parties list and
    would they be prepared to check two names for me please?
    
    All the systems that contain this information are currently unavailable
    to us in the UK!
    
    Jackie

    
    Sure Jackie!
    
    WHo are they?
    
    Send me mail!
    
    /jen
    

    /jen
    
    Thanks...mail on its way - hope I caught you!
    
    This travelling business is a nightmare sometimes.
    
    Jackie

    
    Hey...has anybody heard anything about a tv broadcast of the Eagles
    tour?   I thought I heard something but it was just the tail end of an
    ad and I thought it said it was tonight!
    
    Waaah...I don't wanna miss it!
    
    /jen
    
    
    

    
    
    /Jen.....It's on Wednesday night at 9:00pm on MTV.  I'll be
    watching it right along with you!  :*)
    
    
    Terrie
    

    
    
    
    Oh, what the heck, it HAS been a while.....
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
            *****************S*N*A*R*F******************
    
    
    :*)
    

    
    Hi, me again!
    
    I had a teribly unfortunate thing happen to my RAINBOW (YES!) at home.
    My monitor burned out.  It is a VR201-A.  When I go into DIAL there are
    no VR201-A's listed, but there are VR201-B's and VR201-C's.   Does
    anybody know if these would be compatible?   If not does anybody know
    what other monitor would work?
    
    /jen
     

    \
    
    	try calling 1-800-PCBYDEC. They should be able to help you out with
    that....
    
    
    chico

    
    /jen,
    
      The VR201-A is black and white, the -B is green and the -C 
    is amber. They all work. 
    
      The VR241-A is the color monitor that goes on the Rainbow. But
    with this monitor you need a BCC03-06 cable.   Now I have the
    cable but not the monitor. If you can find one I'll sell you
    the cable.
    
    Rich
    

    
    RE: Chico.  Thanks, but I was afraid to call them with a RAINBOW
    question...afraid they'd laugh me off the phone!
    
    RE: Rich...YOU STAR!  Thanks so much!  I had to know SOMEONE out
    there would know their monitor part numbers! :)   
    
    /jen
    

    
    
    /jen,
    
      The real question is why a member of digital's elite (PCBU) is
    using a (gag) Rainbow ?  Get them to issue a 486 :-)))
    
    Rich
    

    
    Rich,
    
    I 'wuv' my Rainbow.  Had it since 1986! :)
    
    Of course I do have a Pentium and work and it 'SCREAMS!'
    
    /jen
    

>    Of course I do have a Pentium and work and it 'SCREAMS!'

Don't press so hard on the keys and it will probably be able to stand your
gentle touch.

    
    
    Jen.....you can use the VR201-a/b/c....the only difference is the
    collor of the display.  
    
    
    
    Cheers,
    
    Craig
    

    
    Thanks Craig,
    
    Now shall we have a vote.  Which is easier on the eyes...green or
    amber?
    
    /jen
    

	Amber fer sure....


chico

    
    Sorry chico. I'd go fo green. :>

	arg...always a dissenting opinion....:)

    
    Oh NO!  It's a tie!
    
    /jen
    

    
    Nothing to beat softwhite....
    
    but since that doesn't show up on the list... I vote for amber... *8)))
    
    so 1 up for amber....
    
    Ravi.

	thank you Ravi! ;*)

    Amber was the choice of the Germans when I worked in Nixdorf years
    back. That cited some study that it was easier on the eyes. IN the US
    we sold the same monitor with Amber and green filter options but the
    amber did seem to be crisper under the fluorescent lights

	mornin' Jim.....


chico

    Morning Chico....
    
    Just logged in to check email. Got myself on a couple of active mailing
    lists, 42 messages since 5pm last night. At least it's a local call...
    
    CM

	hehe, yeah, it's amazing how fast those little suckers pile up. :)

	try going away for a week or two. Yikes! Glad the last two extended
leaves were business trips and I had a laptop with me....:)


chico

>    I had a teribly unfortunate thing happen to my RAINBOW (YES!) at home.
>    My monitor burned out.  It is a VR201-A.  When I go into DIAL there are

  It just happens our group had a surplus VR201 (part of a LARGE stockpile of
"junk"), so I was able to bail her out AND reduce the inventory.

I'm looking for a Portuguese Language textbook.

Would anyone happen to have a used one that I could
borrow/buy?


If so, drop me some email.

Thanks.

Hamp

    
    Hey...can anybody give me directions to the new Factory outlet mall in
    Worcester from Route 290 in Hudson?
    
    And please don't say go to the Centrum or the old Galeria cuz I don't
    know worcester very well at all!
    
    Thanks 
    
    /jen
    

Follow I290 West into Worcester
and look for the Route 9 exit(Westboro). [I can't recall the exit number]
(This exit will be the one AFTER
the I190 exit.  After passing the I190
exit, MOVE ALL THE WAY RIGHT).
Take the Route 9 exit(Westboro) and
stay right through the traffic light.

This leads you into Lincoln square where
you will pass the police station on your
left.  You will see signs for the Centrum
and the Outlet Mall.  Just keep straight
and you'll run right into the mall.

    
    Thanks HAMP!
    
    Can you say someone might just be doing some Christmas shopping! :)
    
    /jen
    

    
    
      I need directions to Auburn Ma. High School .
    
    Thanks,
    
    Rich
    

    
    
    	Take 290 heading towards Auburn. Take the Auburn/Auburn st. exit.
    Take a left at the lights at the end of the ramp and the high school
    will be on your right just after you pass under the highway.
    
    
    jim

    
    
    Re: -1 
    
      Thanks !!
    
    Rich
    
    But who's that jim character ? :-))
    
    

    
    
    	yipes!! :) I'm always afraid of signing chico in non-friends
    conferences, and now I'm doing just the opposite...;*)
    
    
    

    
    Hey...is anybody familiar with Cambridge?
    
    I'm looking for recommendations on where to park when I go in for a
    show tomorrow night.  I hear it is a difficult area to find parking.
    I'm going to a show at the House of Blues near Brattle Square.  Don't
    mind a bit of a walk but prefer a place where the new car won't be
    in jeopardy of being crashed into/towed, etc.
    
    Thanks.
    
    /jen
    

    
    
    /jen,
    
      Brattle Square is just around the corner from Harvard Square. You
    could always park at Alewife and take the Red line.
    
    Rich
    

    
    Hi Rich,
    
    Yup, we thought about the T---It would be best, but the show doesn't
    start until 10:00 p.m. tonight and will most likely end after 1:00 a.m.
    The T trains won't still be running then.   So we thought about parking
    at Alewife anyway and cabbing it back....but then someone else
    suggested parking at the Charles hotel in Cambridge.  Probably going to
    try that.
    
    /jen
    

    
    Hey!
    
    Does anybody have yesterday morning's Globe?  I hear there is a review
    of the Boston concert in it, and I'd love to read it!
    
    /jen
    

    
    /jen,
    
      If you still want the article, i have it.  send mail..wire money !!
      
    
    Rich
    

    
    Hiya Rich,
    
    Such a guy....you're always answering my pleas! 
    
    But I managed to go to 3 stores on the way home and FINALLY found the
    silly Globe.  I hate when stores sell out.
    
    I see they gave the show a really good review!  It really was great.
    
    :)
    
    /jen
    

    I hope someone can help me.  When I access VAXmail, I get a message
    that there's new mail, but there actually isn't any new mail.  How do I
    get rid of the message?
    
    Lori B.

    Never mind the last message.  I figured it out! :-)
    
    Lori B.

Does anyone know the answer to this query?:


Who do ex-DECcies call regarding their DEC retirement plan?


Hamp

    Hamp,
    
    
    You could try either of the following two Company-wide discipline
    Managers:
    
    Sarah Sumner (Core compensation)  DTN 223 9508 (MSO2-1/E5)
    or 
    Kathleen Angel (Corporate Benefits) DTN 223 9195 (MSO2-1/D2)
    
    
    I'm not sure if this fits within their roles, but they should be able
    to point you in the right direction.
    
    Jackie.
    

Does anyone know about how long after the purchase date does
Series EE US Saving Bonds mature to face value?  Is it 6 months?

I know that interest ceases 30 years after.

Hamp

I thought they matured at 10 years (these are the ones that you buy for half the
face value initially?) The old ones used to be 7 years (Series E)

CM

Ok, Thanks!

    
    
    Depending on when you purchased the bond, the face value maturity
    on all EE bonds is 7-10 years.  The maturity to 'purchase cost'
    is 6 months.  (IE: You can't cash a bond for at least 6 months 
    after it has been purchased.)  After the full maturity, the interest
    rate that you accrue at is lowerd by 20%, so it is beneficial for you
    to cash them within 90 days of face value maturity, then roll it over
    into more bonds, or into a savings account.
    
    
    Terrie
    

	Interesting, I always wondered how they worked!!  Thanks Terrie!!

	Lola    

    
    
    The earnings are only tax free until you cash the bond.
    Once it has been cashed, you are required to claim the
    interest received on your income taxes.
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    
    Hey...does anybody around here sell Princess House?
    
    /jen
    

    /jen,
    
    I believe my friend's sister-in-law sells it.  I'll check with her
    tonight and let you know tomorrow.  Is there a piece in particular that
    you're interested in?
    
    Lori B.

    re: .146
    
    As a matter of fact, the woman works here at DEC so I sent her mail. 
    Just awaiting her response.
    
    Lori B.

    Does anyone recall which USxRMC machine is supposed to be used by
    those in LKG?  (That is, which router does one use here at LKG to
    send out external email?)
    
    Hamp

I don't know which one is SUPPOSED to be used, but I find 1 and 3 to be the most
available and do most of my stuff through us3rmc. If there is a "local" one, I'd
be interested as well.

Jim

    
    Hi Hamp,
    
    I use '4' for my outbound stuff....usually works fine.
    
    I'm in AKO, fwiw.
    
    /jen
    

    I know 4 is for Maynard...and I thought either 1 or 3 is for LKG.
    
    This info is somewhere on line, but I can't remember where.
    
    
    Hamp
    

    
    Hmmm...maybe it's in the INTERNET_TOOLS conference:
    
    LJSRV2::INTERNET_TOOLS
    
    /jen
    

        DECnet areas and RMCs
        ---------------------
    
        US1RMC             US2RMC             US3RMC             US4RMC
        ======             ======             ======             ======
         4 LKG Campus       2 MKO Campus       8 Western States   5 PKO Campus
         9 LKG Campus       3 MKO Campus      13 Lat's            7 MRO Campus
        12 LKG Campus      19 MKO Campus      16 Western States  11 MRO Campus
        14 Shownet (LKG)   23 South Central   20 APA (AKO)       15 Salem N.H.
        29 LKG Campus      26 South Central   22 APA (Singapore) 17 Salem N.H.
        36 South Central   31 MKO Campus      28 Western States  18 SHR
        45 Opennet (LKG)   32 Eastern States  30 Western States  21 MRO Campus
        55 LKG Campus      33 South Central   57 APA (Canada)    24 PKO Campus
                           34 South Central   59 APA (Australia) 25 PKO Campus
                           35 CNS/EAST        60 Unassigned      27 SHR
                                                                 38 MRO Campus
                                                                 39 Salem N.H.
                                                                 56 PKO Campus
    
    
        DECPA              CRL                JRDMAX             VBORMC
        =====              ===                ======             ======
        10 Palo Alto        6 HLO             58 APA (Japan)      1 EUR
                           37 HLO                                40 EUR
                                                                 41 EUR
                                                                 42 EUR
                                                                 43 EUR
                                                                 44 EUR
                                                                 46 EUR
                                                                 47 EUR
                                                                 48 EUR
                                                                 49 EUR
                                                                 50 EUR
                                                                 51 EUR
                                                                 52 EUR
    								 53 EUR
                                                                 54 EUR
    
        RMC                 RMC
        DECnet Name         IP Name
        ----------------------------------------
        US1RMC              us1rmc.bb.dec.com
        US2RMC              us2rmc.zko.dec.com
        US3RMC              us3rmc.pa.dec.com
        US4RMC              us4rmc.pko.dec.com
        DECPA               mts-gw.pa.dec.com
        CRL                 easynet.crl.dec.com
        JRDMAX              jrdmax.jrd.dec.com
        VBORMC              vbormc.vbo.dec.com

    *sigh* 
    
    Can't seem to find anything these days...
    
    
    Does anyone happen to have the customer service number
    of Cigna?
    
    Hamp

    
    Hamp, it's 800-828-3485
    
    A
    

    Thanks!!
    

    
    
    Question about PC's for the PC minded folk out there (IBMPC-95 is not
    reachable):
    
    	A friend brought over an old IBM PS-2 box yesterday (his school
    bought new systems and was tossing out the old ones). It has the hard
    drive (20meg), a 3.5" floppy drive, two simms (9 chip I believe), and
    it seems to power up ok (plugged it in and listened to the drives spin
    up, etc).
    
    	My question is, what was the std config of an IBM PS-2? Is the
    drive RLL or MFM or IDE or SCSI(not likely) controlled? How much memory
    is there with the two simms installed and what kind of CPU did they
    have? 
    
    
    	any info much appreciated!
    
    	chico

    
    Hi,
    
    Someone in my group is going to be over in our Zurich, Switzerland
    office and it looks like she is going to have a free day.  She wants to
    know how close she'd be to someplace where she could go skiing for the
    day.
    
    Any advice????
    
    /jen
    

    
    
    Lucerne.....
    
    
    :*)
    Terrie
    

    
    
    /jen, 
    
      Have her check in the skiing notesfile BSGDEV::SKIING or the 
    Switzerland notesfile BOOKIE::HELVETICA
    
    Rich
    

    HOw does one go about finding which is the proper form to use
    when asking Petty Cash to cut a check for the Govt agency that
    sends MIL-STD's?  Don't tell me to go see my Admin, 'cause that
    is who I am???  

    justme....jacqui

                                                                                
HOTLINE :  DTN 264-1970 OR OUTSIDE (603) 884-1970                               
VAXMAIL = GEMINI::EXPENSE    ALL IN 1 = EXPENSE @MKO                            
OFFICE HOURS:  MONDAY - FRIDAY  8:15 - 5:00 (EASTERN TIME)                      
                                                                                

    
    Gee...we don't even get many checks cut thru Petty Cash.  We almost
    always have to go thru Accounts Payable.  And the form we have to fill
    out is a VOUCHER CHECK REQUEST (VCR) for items that don't have a P.O.
    
    /jen
    

    I need a favor from all of you people who speak another language
    besides English.
    
    I need to know how to say "Please do not touch the cat" in a few
    foreign language.  Specifically Spanish and French, but any other
    language would be helpful as well.
    
    the reason I need this is that next week I will be going to an
    International Cat show where they expect ~10,000 people to go through
    the show hall.  I need to put a sign on my cat's cage asking people
    not to touch the cat.  I don't want people touching my cat because if they
    have touched another cat that has some type of disease and then touch
    mine, they can transfer that disease to my cat.  In simple words that
    I've seen on other people's cages .. "Your kind affection can spread
    infection".
    
    Thanks.
    
    Holly
    

    
    
    
    in French
    
    
    Ne touchez pas le chat si vous plait.
    
    
    in British:
    
    Keep your grubby hands of my p*ssy!! :))))))
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    >>>grubby hands
    
    "grubby little mits"  would get you a better response! ;-)
    
    
    Jackie 

    
    
    
    re -1  hehehehehehe :))
    
    I stand corrected!! :)))
    
    Chris
    :)

    In Spanish I believe it's:
    
    No toche (sp.) le gato, por favor y gracias.
    
    Lori B.

    
    
    SNARF!!!
    
    
    Gateau is cake in French...el Gato might be cat in mexican! :))
    
    sounds the same ..but the taste....hmmmm no comment! hehehehe :))
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    
    
    Holly....why not have a sign made up with a universal don't touch on
    it...
    
    
    Circle with a bar across it overlapping a picture of a cat with a hand
    approaching the cat.  Then it dosen't matter about the language.
    
    
    Craig
    
    
    

    Craig,
    
    I like it!
    
    Lori B.

    Makes sense to me!
    
    Hamp

    
    
    Well folks....ya know how it is......I have used this year quota of
    absolute brilliance....now I guess I will have to wait for a whole year
    to get another good idea.....heheheheheh
    
    
    Han Holly....I think that If you need a sign in Italian...It should go
    soething like this......
    
    
    
    IF'N YOUA TOUCHA MY PUSSY....I GONNA BLOWA YOU HEADDA OFFA.....:-)
    
    
    

    the universal sign would be something that the pet world should
    consider doing.  go for it!!!

    re:  the d*mnned question on the $50 check...

    	I followed a route of about 8 people and the down and dirty
    	answer is to write a personal check and then get reimbursed
    	after the fact!  Costs too much to go the regual internal 
    	route what with all the paperwork.  I will be checking out
    	one other way through the library this afternoon.  

    	I do want to thank this group for their quick response that
    	got this process rolling.  

    	justme....jacqui

    sounds like a great idea, but where would I get one?
    
    H

    re: .176
    
    Have someone draw it for you.
    
    Lori B.

      There must be some creative artists out there that could put
    something to gether for you Holly........
    
    
    Craig
    

    Holly,
    
    Check your mail.  I'm sending you a post script file that should do the 
    trick.
    
    Lori
    
    P.S. You need Powerpoint and a color printer

    Holly,
    
    I had a problem creating a post script file in Powerpoint, so I did it
    in word.  If you have a color printer, you should be able to que the
    .ps file to it to print.
    
    Lori B.

Lori, I don't know how you actually did it but I think the circle-slash should
just go over the hand, since pussies are wonderful and allowed...

CM (back from lunch and in an EXCELLENT mood)

    If anyone would like to see what I created for Holly and has a way to
    look at ps files, send me mail and I'll forward it to you.
    
    Lori B.

Wow! 18:07 is the "where could I get one" and 18:27 is the "I'll mail it to
you". Looks great, Lori. Pretty amazing stuff.

Anyone that has a workstation and reads mail with the DECwindows mail program,
it'll display on your screen when you get it. Looks great!

I was thinking of Sicily for the "Keepa youze handz off" line as well 8^)

CM (one hour to go)

    Lori..
    
    Thanks for your help.  That's what I needed.  I will most likely use
    either your picture or something similar.  
    
    However, what I will do with this picture is put it on top of the cage. 
    (there really isn't a place to hang a sign this big without blocking
    the view of the cat).  Some people don't look on top of the cage when
    they go to a show.  So I'll still need to hang a small sign on the
    cage.  I'm going to stick with the different languages here.  
    
    Thanks everyone for all of your help.
    
    Holly
    

Use the "Don't toucha da cat" one too and you'll probably get some smiles and
certainly be remembered 8^)

Is this for the show in Sturbridge? (or was that last weekend?)

CM (Also looking at a weekend of standing in a small area for hours on end)

    You're welcome Holly, glad I could be of help.
    
    Lori B.

    the "don't toucha da cat" sign sounds cute.  I've seen another one that
    says "Paws off my pussy".  hahah!!
    
    No, this isn't for the show in Sturbridge.  That was last weekend.  And
    it isn't for the Boston show this weekend either (Sorry, I wouldn't be
    caught dead showing my cat at that show).  It's for a show at the
    Providence Trade center next weekend.
    
    Wish me luck!!
    
    Holly
    

    
    Holly,
    
    **Providence Trade center
    
    Is this the same as the Convention Center downtown?   I've only been by
    the outside, but I hear it is really nice.
    
    /jen
    

    Good luck Holly!  I'm sure your cats will do great as usual!
    
    Lori B.

    
    
    Best of luck Holly!
    I'm sure your pussy will be best of show! :)))))))
    
    Chris
    :)

    Jen,
    
    Yes, I believe it's the Convention Center.  My mistake.
    
    Thanks everyone for the well wishes.  Little Ms. Ruby (aka Nubians
    2GD2BTRU) has been doing pretty well so far.  Finalling in 80% of her
    rings and each time being right in the middle of the final (last show
    on Sunday she finaled in all of the rings and got 5th best kitten in
    each one.  Talk about consistency!).
    
    Thanks everyone for all of your help!
    
    Holly
    

    Good Luck, Cat Detective!  ;->
    
    Hamp

    Can someone give me directions to Scupper Jacks from LKG?
    
    Is it on 2A heading East or West?
    
    
    Hamp
    

Head east, towards boston. It's a couple of miles down on the left.

I thought I had heard it had changed it's name again??

    
    Hamp,
    
    Just another hint.  When you leave LKG there is the one red light right
    there with the mobile station.  Nagog Park (where Scupper Jack's is)
    is at the next light.   Take a left into the mall and then your first
    right.
    
    /jen

    Thanks!
    
    Hamp
    

>    **Providence Trade center
    
>    Is this the same as the Convention Center downtown?   I've only been by
>    the outside, but I hear it is really nice.
    
  I attended a conference there last fall. It is indeed a very nice facility.

Do any of the local Littleton MA noters know the hours of the town library? I
need to go over and get a special Tax Form out of one of the big books and I'm
not home in time to hit my local library (or, anyone in LKG have one of the
complete tax form books?)

CM

    
    
    CM,
    
      Don't know the hours for Littleton but the phone # is 486-4046. 
    
      Acton Library also has the forms. there nuumber is 264-9641.
    
    Rich
    
    

    
    
    
    
    SNARF!!!

Thanks Rich... and the answer is... 9pm tonight and they have 7 different books
of reproducible tax forms.

CalculatingMan

    
    
    I'd like to know how to make a spoiler!
    
    Who can help me??
    
    
    
    Tina

    
    What do you mean by a spoiler, Tina?
    
    Do you mean a form feed?  I can't do it on this terminal to show you
    (working at home and that command logs me out!)..but I think you need a 
    
    ctrl L
    
    Jackie

    
    
    	yup, ctrl l will do it....
    
    
    
    
    	it's kinda fun!
    
    
    
    	meet me under the form-feed choc! ;*)
    
    
    
    
    	<smooch>
    
    

    
    
    Now, thats my kind of form feed!
    
    :-)
    
    Jackie

    
    <----- hehehehehehe..
    
    	I'd say thats a well fed form.. *8)
    
    Ravi.
    *8)

    
    	
    I kinda like Jackie's form myself.....;*)
    
    

    So let's try
    
    
    and ???
    
    
    Does it work??
    
    Tina

    
    
    
    
    Hey..let's all catch the form
    
    feed
    
    wave!!!
    
    hehehehehehe!
    
    
    whoooooo haaaaaa! this is fun!
    
    Chris
    :)

Sorry Guys and gals but this is lost on us DECWindows viewers. We just get an
additional blank line and it shows it all anyway 8^(

    
    
    Also uses a lot of disk space which could be at a premium on the host
    machine if you use a lot of form feeds.....
    
    
    Craig
    

  Re: no form feeds on DECwindows: There was a discussion of this recently in
the STAR_TREK conference, where people are asked to use form feeds on 
spoilers (material that would give away the plot of upcoming episodes). One
alternative that was suggested was to put in a screenful of blank lines, but
this also uses up disk space.

    
    
    Unfortunately....disk space is used up in either case.....form feeds or
    blank lines......
    
    Guess the moderators will just have clean up in their spare
    time.....:-)
    
    
    Craig

    I have a canary in the background here that is DEAFENING me!!
    
    Don
    *8-((

You also have a cat... Doesn't sound like an unsolvable, long term problem...

    
    
    Well Don,
    You could just open the cage and let the canary out......<Just don't
    tell the kids that you did it....heheheh
    
    
    Craig
    

    
    
    
    My brother in law from England taught me a little trick he used with
    his budgies....heheheheh
    
    
    he calls it aging them.
    
    When they get annoyingly loud as budgies do, he just covers their cage
    as if its night time...this has the effect of not only quieting them
    down but also of making them think that a day has passed for each long 
    covered period..thereby aging them prematurely! :)))
    
    Chris
    :)
    

    Remember the TV show "Dinosaurs"?
    
    Does anyone recall the name of the father?
    
    I believe the last name was Sinclair.
    
    
    Hamp
    
    

    
    
    "Not the Mommy"
    
    
    Hope this helps.  :*)
    
    
    xOxO
    Terrie
    

    :-pPpPpPpP
    
    ;->

    
    
    Wasn't the daddy dinosaurs name Earl or something similiar.......
    
    
    
    

    EARL!!!
    
    I think that's it!!
    
    
    Thanks!!!!  ;->
    
    Hamp

  Some of us in the U.S. recall when there used to be a brand of gasoline 
called Sinclair with a dinosaur as the symbol. This is where Sinclair on the
show got his name. This joke is probably lost on half of the American audience
of the show and 90% of the British audience. (This show does appear in Britain,
right?)

    
    
    
    Can anyone recommend a nice B&B or Inn on the coast Near Boston?
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    Chris, I have a book here that has tons of B&Bs, but don't know how
    I could get it to you quickly. 
    
    A
    

    
    
    Anything in particular stand out as far as coastline, romantic??
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    
    Chris, I also have a B&B book.  I'll photocopy a few things and
    fax it to you if you'd like.  Send me your fax # off line.
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    
    
    
    Thanks Terrie
    
    
    fax number on its way!
    
    Chris
    :0

Chelsea by the Sea, overlooking Boston Harbor...


8^)

    
    
    Jim, You're sick.  :*)  Don't ever change. :*)
    
    I bet every room has a view of the third harbour tunnel
    project too,  huh?  hehehehehehe
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

Alas, the fragrance is everywhere 8^)

    
    
    I take it Chelsea by the Sea has a shocking rather than Choccing view!
    ;))))
    
    Chris
    :)

A poor attempt at humor. My point being that seaside and Boston probably
shouldn't be in the same sentence. It's probably too early in the season to go
down near the cape so the north shore might be your best bet. Terrie has a great
guide (how about that loft with the telescope) that should have plenty of stuff
to choose from and I heard Ann interofficed you some stuff.

The ultimate B&B would be at Kimball's 8^) I don't know if you'd fit back on the
plane afterwards (no, they don't have one either. Another cheap joke)

ComedianMan

    
    
    
    Ahhhh but Kimballs is on the route though!!!
    
    oh i remember the specials!!:))))))
    
    Chris
    :)

    I have a question for all of our friends in England.
    
    First, a bit of history.  My grandfather's parents both came from
    England.  However, my grandfather was born in Pennsylvania.  The entire
    time he was growing up, his grandfather had a special name for him ..
    Snicklefritz (SP?).  Consequently, my grandfather called my mother that
    when she was growing up and my mother called me that when I was growing
    up.
    
    Now, my question.  DOes anyone know where the word "Snicklefritz"(sp?) 
    came from?  I've been told that it may be a type of cookie.  Anyone
    know?
    
    Holly
    

    
    
    
    sounds more German than English Holly!!
    
    Chris
    ;)

    >Snicklefritz
    
    
    "Fritz" is definitly German. It's the short form of Friedrich
    (Frederic).
    
    "Snickle", however, isn't a German word. 
    
    I don't know if this helps :-(
    
    
    
    Tina

    
    I've not heard the term, Holly.  Perhaps its one of those made-up pet
    names?
    
    Like Chris and Tina suggested, it sounds German.
    
    Jackie

    Holly,
    
    I've looked in the German dictionary. There a two words which might
    fit:
    
    schniegeln: prepare, smarten
    
    schnieke: Berlin dialect for chic, taste, elegance
    
    
    Schniegelfritz could be a person which cares for his look. Maybe one of
    your ancestors heart this term in Germany and said it in English =
    "Snicklefritz". We also have to take into consideration that this
    happend at least 100 years ago.
    
    
    Tina
    least 100 years ago 

    re -1
    
    I think there happened something with my reply:
    
    There *are* two words which might fit
    
    
    
    Tina_still_fighting_with_notes
    ;-)

    Thanks everyone who has helped so far.  Just an FYI, the spelling
    "snicklefritz" is just my lousy attempt.  Nobody knows what the actual
    spelling is.
    
    SOmeone else suggested that it might be some type of cookie?
    
    H

    
    
    HELP!  I'm trying to edit my login.com file.
    I'm trying to define a name for an e-mail address.
    The address has an = in it, and the system does
    not want to accept it.  Is there another way of doing
    this??
    
    Please send mail if you have a solution to my problem.
    
    
    Thanks!!!
    
    NETCAD::WOODFORD
    
    Terrie
    

    
    
    Thanks everyone for the help.  Thanks to Chris
    thinking in common sense terms(Unlike me) :*)
    The problem is solved.
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

The word "snickle" could also be an adapted form of the
German word "Schnuckel". It is pronounced "shnookle" with
a very short "oo" sound. Like "must" with "oo" instead of the
"u". Schnuckel is a pet word eg for your spouse.  Like sweety or
darling.
Snicklefritz can just mean: Sweety Fritz.

Martina
;)

    
    Hi Folks !!
    
    	Anybody out there use a DECpc 425SE (laptop) with a XIRCON Credit
    Card Ethernet Adapter ? I've formatted the one I'm using and as a
    result bungled up the PCMCIA card configurations.
    
    	In case somebody uses one configured to run on PATHWORKS, could you
    send me the config.sys files ( thru mail ADCA01::RAVISHANKAR ).
    
    Thanks in Advance.
    Ravi Shankar.

    
    I'm looking for a local phone number in the Washington D.C. area to
    call to connect to my WATN account.  Can anyone help or know where I
    can begin to find this?
    
    Thanks,
    
    A
    

    
    
    
    Watn hell is a watn account? :)))))
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    	Ann,
    
    	talk to your system mangler. He should have an 800 number you can
    call to get a WATN connection number anywhere in the U.S.. 
    
    
    chico

    
    Thanks Chico, I called the telcom folks at PKO and they gave me
    3 local DC numbers.
    
    A
    

    Chris needs 5 StarTrek Voyager episodes and I have most of them
    on tape at home. Unfortunately I don't have 2 vcrs to make copies.
    Does anybody have 2 machines at home and could volunteer to help?
    
    Chris and Jackie are coming next Friday. We could surprise them with
    a nice StarTrek tape.
    
    ;)
    Martina

    
    
    Well Martina, it won't be much of a surprise since you've
    just posted your plans here.  :*)
    
    
    I don't have 2 vcr's, but if someone wants to bring theirs 
    to my house the night of Jake's, we could do it before dinner.
    
    
    Terrie
    

    Does anybody know how to create a FF (form feed) character in the
    editor for future references?
    
    Then I can talk about surprises without spoiling them.
    
    Martina

    try CTRL L, Martina!
    
    works for me!
    
    Jackie

    Ahhh!!!
    
    Thank you Jackie.

    Chris, please do not read any further.
    
    ;)
    Trust me on this one
    
    
    Hello Terrie,
    
       I need to copy 5 episodes for Chris. That means 5 hours!
       Do you think we'll have enough time before dinner?
       If yes, I'll bring my vcr.
    
    ;)
    Martina

    
    
    Martina, send me mail. :*)
    
    REQUEST:  HELP!!!  Does anyone have an internet address for
    Sophia???  Has anyone talked to her recently??
    
    
    Thanks,
    
    Terrie
    

    Terrie,
    
    Try talking to Chris, I think he has it
    
    Jackie_out_the_Door

    
    
    
    HI Terrie
    
    I talked to Sophia yesterday
    
    
    here is her address:
     ( add this line to login.com ...then save and type @login.com 
    - then send to:sophia )
    
    $ define sophia US3RMC::"""sophia@tka.com"""
    
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    
    
    SNARF!

    
    
    
    Thanks Chris!!!
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    Chris, thanks for snarfing my birthday year.
    
    ;)
    Martina_feels_honored

    
    
    Your welcome!
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    
    set up ----> ( go for it Martina! )

    
    
    
    Thank you....
    
    
    :*)
    

    
    
    
    <-----65...my birthday year too. :*)
    
    
    Sorry, but I couldn't resist. :*)
    

    65:   also the birthday year of my "cute" little brother
    
    When I turned 30 he started calling me "Grufti" that means: crypty.
    I did not at all like that....
    Then on his 30th birthday I called him up and said: "Hello CRYPTY!!!"
    with a malicious laugh.
    He just responded: "Hello composty"
    Grrrr!
    
    ;)
    Martina

    
    
    anytime!!
    
    a good year all round huh?
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    
    
    SNARF!!

    
    Okay, now I have to snarf my year of birth ... :-))
    
    Tina

	Me too (27/08/71).
				Le plus jeune ici?	BenJ.	;)

    
    Hi, are any of our Spanish, Mexican or Hispanic friends out there
    
    that can tell me what "Cinco De Mayo" is?
    
    (and please excuse my spelling)
    
    Wen

    
    Wen,
    
    I'm not Mexican, but I can tell you it is a holiday commemorating a
    historical Mexican Battle.
    
    /jen
    

    
    
    It means, literally, "Fifth of May"
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

	I'd like to buy a DEEP PURPLE album. I love the song "Chid in time". I
know that the original album where we can find this song is "in rocks" (or
something like that, but I know the group has made several live albums...

	If there is a fan of this group round here, I'd like to have his
opinion about the album of DEEP PURPLE he prefers (Don't reply me "all albums
are good" it's not an answer of my question...).

	I ain't got any purple wing but i like deep purple...

						Rocker,	madly,	BenJ.	;)

    
    Hi folks!
    
    In America you have some phrases on your signs like "The spirit of
    America" for Massachusetts or "Yours to decover" for Ontario (I think).
    
    Does anyone know the "principle" of Wyoming??
    
    
    Thanks
    Tina

    
    
    	"Land of much wheat"????
    
    
    ;*)

    :-)
    
    
    Tina

    Really?????
    
    I thought the license plate of Wyoming would be eg
    
           - "Home of the Cartwrights"
           - "Get your Breakfast wheat worth"
           - "Eat the wheat, not the buffalos"
    
    ;)
    Martina

    > Home of the Cartwrights
    
    They are from Wyoming?? I've always thought they come from Nevada!!
    
    
    Tina_still_learning

    Hello Tina,
    
       I always thought the Ponderosa is in Wyoming. But I can be wrong.
       I watched Bonanza when I was a little one and I liked it.
       Especially Hoss/Dan Blocker. I was very sad when he died.
    
    ;)
    Martina

    
    Does anybody know Dawnne Santos' married name???
    
    I need payroll help quick!!!
    
    /jen
    

    
    
    HELP!!!  Has anyone seen or heard a MA news broadcast in the past 
    hour or so??? 
    
    I've been trying to call several phone numbers in the W.Bridgewater
    area over the last hour, including my house, my hubby's work, my
    children's daycare, AND THE POLICE STATION, and I am getting an odd
    busy signal everywhere!!!  :*(
    
    I'm rather concerned!
    
    Terrie
    

    
    Terrie,
    
    Did you call the operator and ask?  It could be a circuit problem of
    some sort but they should be able to tell you.
    
    /jen
    

    
    
    
    I can't dial '0' from this phone.
    
    I was able to get to several other numbers in Littleton, worcester
    and Millis, but I can't get to the police stations in any of my
    surrounding towns either.  I'm getting worried.  i'm leaving now.  I'll
    listen to BZ radio in my car and see if I hear anything.
    
    
    Thanks Jen.
    
    Terrie
    

    
    
    	It's probably just something with the system luv....don't fret too
    badly.
    
    
    chico

  I just went over the documentation for LKG's phone system (NT SL100) and
there are no instructions on how to get the local operator. I'm guessing that
dialing "0" gets the DTN operator. If you really need to know, I suggest you
call the support person (DTN 223-2420) and ask.
  The good news is that the phone problems in the W. Bridgewater area were not
due to a major catastrophe. If there had been one, I would have heard about it
by this time. A lot of phone malfunctions like this never make the news, unless
they are a side effect of a major disaster.

    
    
    Well, the problem was that there was an accident on Rt. 106 that
    took out some main transfer station that routed calls through
    to The Bridgewaters, Easton, and Brocton.
    
    
    Thanks for the help though.
    
    
    
    Terrie
    :*)
    

    
    Hi...
    
    Can I ask for some help from the Scottish gang.
    
    Is anybody familiar with the King's Manor Hotel on Milton Road East in
    Edinburgh?   Can you give me a clue what part of town this is....like
    in relation to some of the big things in town (train station, Royal
    Mile?)
    
    Thanks!
    
    /jen
    

    
    Not too sure nut i will find out today and let you know.
    
    Tom.

    Jen...Sid would have been the best person to ask but he is on holiday
    today,but Oor Tom will do his best for you  :-)
    
    
    Kat

    Jen/..
    
    When will you be coming over....??
    
    
    
    Steve

    
    YES YES YES....I'm coming back to Scotland.  I +LOVED+ it last time and
    want to see more of your beautiful country.  I swear I could live in
    Edinburgh quite happily! :)   
    
    Arrive July 5th....leave (sniff) July 10th.  Last time I got to meet
    Lyndsay and Graeme!    Maybe I can catch up with more of you this
    time...but I know it can be tough with shift work.
    
    /jen

    Jen/ We will see what we can do........I live just outside Edinburgh
    and I also could live there quite happily
    
    
    Kat

    
    Who can support me with Jt's e-mail address, please!
    
    I had it but unfortunately I deleted her mail!
    
    
    
    Thanks
    Tina

    
    Hi/Jen,
    
    I am not familiar with the hotel, but Milton Road East is only about
    a 10 min bus journey (walk it in 20-25mins) to the 
    Royal Mile and is also a nice area.
    
    
    Colin
    
    

    
    Thanks Colin! :)
    
    /jen

Just wanted to make a litle snarf today...

	Triing to anderstand the use of WWW, not so easy,	BenJ.	;)

    
    
    Hey BenJ....The WWW is pretty easy to get lost on.......I use Lynx on a
    text terminal to access the Web....
    
    
    
    Craig
    

    
    
    	I use Lynx and WWW, depending on where I am. Next step is to get a
    PC and hook up a SLIP connection. :)
    
    
    chico

Hi Craig! Nice to CU here!

	I've tested Mosaic access to Internet. I've found there how to localize
Digital members. For exemple I've seen Craig was leaving in CA but I still don't
know where it is...

	My problem is I don't have any idea of the sites we can access with
Internet, and which informations/documentations/pictures we can find there. I'd
like to know if there is an index of the sites existing, maybe sorted in several
subjects. I'm lost and I don't know if I can be helped...

		Internet must be fun, and I'd like the key...	BenJ.	;)

    
    
    BenJ.  I assume that you are looking at an internet type address
    where Name@xxx.xxx.xx
    
    Name is usually the user nema of the person.  The first XXX is usually
    the provider.  The second xxx usually determines the type of business
    that the provider is....edu (school/university)...mil (military) etc.
    The Last xx is usually the country or state/province....CA at the end
    of the address would indicate Canada, as .FR at the end would indicate
    France.
    
    
    Craig
    

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    http://Filth.com/perv/morePervystuff/Kleenex.html
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	I'll try them when I can...

					Yours internetly,	BenJ.	;)

    
    	re: .306
    
    	<snicker - snicker - snicker>
    
    	That was good...:)
    
    
    chico

    
    
    RE: .306 & .308   Now, I think you need to explain that to .307. :*)
    
    
    
    
    
    
    heeheehee Terrie 
    

True...
		C'est pas nouveau, j'ai rien compris...		BenJ.	:-((

        Did you manage to access any of them....?
    
    
    *:@)))

From:	CRL::"dplant@nectech.com" "Denise M. Plant" 25-MAY-1995 11:41:24.57
To:	subpac::sadin
CC:	
Subj:	RE: HI!

I tried sending Chris a note but it rejects.  Do you think you could post a 
note in ::Friends for me??

NOTE:

Looking for one Plantmister...  attemps to send mail have failed.   Chris, 
I hope things are well.  Drop me a line or two so I can respond!

I hope everyone in ::Friends is doing well.  I sure do miss communicating 
with everyone!!!

Hugs,
Deni
    
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    Hello Folks,
    
       who of you needs sand?????
       Clean fine sand without any dirt in it.
       Eg for sandboxes, or anything else where you need sand for.
    
       A girlfriend of mine has a huge pile in her garden and needs help
       deminishing it. Please send me mail if you like to get some.
    
    ;)
    Martina
    
    For who ever likes to know, the "behind the scenes" story:
    
    My friend was had by a builder. Her yard has a little slope and she
    wanted to get "fill" as a base for a small parking lot for their cars.
    She intended to put some loem on it and grass seed etc.
    The builder came to her place and took her order for "fill". Then he
    brought 2 truckloads of perfect clean fine beach sand.
    The sand nowadays runs also under the category of "fill".
    And it is quite solid and you can even park on it. ;)
    But..... only until the next rain. Then her whole yard will be washed
    with sand. :(
    So she tries somehow to get rid of it.
    
    Martina

    
    
    I don't need any sand ..but the nook could use some for a BEACH
    PARTY!!!
    
    
    Everybody MAMBO!!
    
    Chris_alias_MR._Mambo
    :)

    
    
    HELP!!!!!  Has anyone out there received complimentary passes
    to NEPCON 95 that they aren't planning on using, that I could
    have??
    
    
    Thanks,
    
    Terrie
    

    
    
    
    what is NEPCON 95?
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    
    It's the largest electro-manufacturing trade show on the 
    east coast of the USA.  I wanna go real bad!!!  :*)
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    
    Hey...does anybody out there know where I can find "UUDECODE" and how
    to use it?  I just got an encoded Excel spreadsheet over the network
    that says it is from cc:Mail and is encoded.
    
    ARGH........some days I just wanna go back to the fax...
    
    /jen

    
    
    Jen, There are a few FTP sights via internet that you can get
    UUdecode/encode.  You can also get off of the simtel archives on
    winnah.  I am not exactly sure which directory that you would have to
    go to, but I do know that it is on there.....
    
    
    Craig
    

    Hello Jen,
    
       I have a utility for uuencode and decoding on my Intel system.
       But.... the system just died 2 hours ago. Now I have to wait until
       Field Service comes with a new motherboard. As soon as I have it,
       I'll check for the utility. It runs under Windows, Windows for Work-
       groups and Windows NT and I think it is shareware.
    
    ;)
    Martina

    
    Thanks for the help folks!
    
    Wendy got someone to decode the one file I was having trouble with, but
    I'd still be interested in your decode utility Martina.  I have an
    INTEL PC here at work so I can use it the next time!
    
    Thanks!
    
    /jen

    
    ok...here's another plea for help.
    
    Does anybody know how to set up a mail-watch thing in All-in-1?   You
    know the kind that sends back message to people that send you mail to
    warn them you're on vacation in the UK and might not ever come back???
    
    Thanks!
    
    /jen

    Page 2 of the Electronic Messaging menu has the options AR (Auto reply)
    and CR (Cancel auto reply).
    
    Charles

    
    Thank YOU Charles!!!!!!!!!!
    
    How are you doing?????????   I need to set up this messaging thingme
    before I fly off to the UK....sorry I missed Kermie and Ren over there!
    
    /jen

    Doing OK Jen. Just too busy to visit ::FRIENDS frequently.
    Have a great time in Good 'Ole England 8-)
    
    Charles

    H E L P   !!!!!
    
    I tried to send mail to Shrewsbury (Quantum, former Digital facility)
    but it does not seem to get through. I only get replies from
    Worf, the Quantum mail gateway in Milpitas that my mail can't be
    delivered. I tried several times with several different formats.
    Mail to Ralf-Peter (my ex-husband) at Quantum in Germany still
    works fine.
    Does anybody have any idea?
    
    ;)
    Mr. Martina-Data

    
    Hi Martina,
    
    As for Quantam people in Shrewsbury, I can no longer do a REPLY to
    their notes...it always fails since they changed servers....but I
    can still send mail using the old server.
    
    Like Joyce is at US4RMC::"tomao@tfh.enet.qntm.com"  and it works.
    
    Give it a try!
    
    /jen

    
    
    
    Martina
    
    that happens to me often enough...sometimes its the server e.g us3rmc
    that is down or too busy.
    
    try later or use another server
    
    us1rmc or us2rmc are alternates.
    
    Chris
    :)

    It is not the Digital gateway server, but the Quantum internet gateway 
    server in Milpitas, called "Worf", that rejects my mails. It looks like
    Lt. Worf has his quirks some times... ;)
    
    (For non-trekkers: Lt. Worf is the Klingon security chief on the 
     Enterprise in StarTrek The Next Generation. Quantum encorporates a lot
     of trekkies and quite a couple of their nodes are named after StarTrek 
     characters.)
    
    I tried another Quantum server and now let's see.....
    I also haven't gotten any mail from Shrewbury yet this week...
    Kind of unusual.
    
    ;)
    Martina-Data

    
    
    I just sent a mail to Maureen ..so i'll let ya know if it bounces.
    
    Chris
    :)

    It won't.
    I just got mail from her..... they were offline for a while.
    
    Thanks a lot dear Captain Lord Christopher Vader.
    
    ;)
    Mr. Martina-Data
    Lt. Cmdr., First Officer of Enterprise NCC-1701-D
    United Federation of Planets

    Looks like I made it up to Lt. Worf again......... ;)
    
    He *IS* a nice guy.
    
    ;)
    Mr. Martina-Data likes Klingons

    
    
    
    speaking of....
    
    we watched "ALL GOOD THINGS" the other night! It was good to see
    some TNG after such a long absence!! :)))
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    Does anyone know or has heard about the walk for Breast Cancer?  I do
    know it is September 24, but I need to know if there is a bus taking
    folks from Fitchburg like before.  Also where to get the pledge forms.
    
    Please send me mail, for I don't get in here to often anymore.
    NAC::MANY
    
    Thanks,
    
    A
    

    ANN!!
    
    It's me!
    
    How are you!!!!????
    
    Serenity

    
    Hello Serenity,
    
    It's good to see you back!  I'm doing ok.
    
    Will send you some mail!
    
    A
    

    
    Hey Folks !
    
    	Does anybody know of a utility/procedure to compress a NOTES
    notebook.... Mine is now close to 1000 blocks !!
    
    Ravi.

    
    	just sent you one ravi!!
    
    
    chico

    Hi everyone..
    
    I'm in need of some help.  Is there anyone out there who has access to
    the conference room scheduling system for LJO2 or TAY??  Please contact
    me asap!
    
    Holly
    

    
    Hi,
    
    Can anyone tell me where the Maynard Rod and Gun Club is?  I have to go
    there for something this Friday, and I can't seem to place it!
    
    /jen

    
    Could comeone tell me the URL for National Geographic or alternatively
    someplace that I can get a map of India ?
    
    thanks in advance
    Ravi.

    >>someplace that I can get a map of India ?
    
    Do you have a desk diary nearby, Ravi?   Sometimes they have maps in
    there.   Mine has a map of India, but I guess its not much use
    considering the distance between us! ;-)
    
    Jackie

Ravi,

Try these:

   http://www.bbcnc.org.uk  (look under TRAVEL topics at this site)

   http://www.city.net/countries/india

Hope that's helpfull.

Henry.

    
    Thanks Jackie !
    
    I was actually looking for an image file (.gif or .tif) ie: a computer
    displayable map of India ! *8)
    
    Ravi.

    
    Re: -.2
    
    	Thanks a lot Henry ! The http://www.city.net/countries/india did
    the trick ! *8)))
    
    Ravi.

re .345

You're welcome!

H.

    
    Does anyone in here know the correct dimintions to set up a dart board?
    
    Ann
    

    
    
    
    the 3rd dimension I believe Ann :))))

    
    Your such a smart a** Chris, I guess that's why I like you!
    To think what Jackie has to put up with. -)))))))
    

    
    
    *8)

Ann,

  There's a notes file on Darts  

   JMPOFF::DARTS

  
Rich

    
    Hey Rich Honey,
    
    thanks, that's what I just did and printed it out.
    
    How ya doing?  How's the trading going? -)))
    
    Ann
    

  Hi Ann,

    You're welcome 


   I'm doin' great. Busy but great!!!!

    The boss was looking to trade me for a trained seal, but all he was 
offered was someone from finance. Not even my boss is that .....

Rich

I was going to say accounting but then...

Why would anyone trade ya, Rich?

    
    I wouldn't trade ya Rich even for a new car.
    A truck maybe! -)
    
    Ann
    

What about a bike?? 8^)

Think of all that accessory shopping you could do... leather!

(sorry Rich, your days might be numbered!)

ChucklingMan

  Ann,

  I'm sure it wouldn't even need power steering or brakes :-)))

  CM, 

    Short story, being elongated by this note stream :-))

Rich

    Ann,
    	Speaking of truck, I have on:
    
    	1995 S-10 Chevy  4X4      Silver in color   :*)
    
    P.S. Ann - I got your mail

To get back to this notes stream... I think Ann wants the dimensions so she
knows the size of the photograph she needs to order for the background!

    
    CM, I have the dimentions and I don't need to order a photo for
    the background, I have one already.
    
    Hmmmmm, bikes, leather..........but only in the summer.  I need the
    truck for winter.  I saw my old truck this weekend, and it still looks
    the same.  
    
    

Ann... Rt 10! Think south...

Re: old truck... who's lawn is it on?

    
    Yes, South!
    
    It's not on a lawn, it's still on the road.  I had only put 170K miles
    on it.
    

170k? Wow, I'm impressed

South! Cruising the waterline at Daytona Beach...

CantstandwinterMan

    
    Ok folks I have just a little request.
    
    tomorrow is Stacy Maitland's birthday. Some know her from the fall and
    ski trips, but most here probably don't, but anyway,  PLEASE send her
    a mail message whishing here a happy birthday.....She's already going
    to kill me cause we just invaded the staff meeting she was in with a
    cheese cake, so what's a  bunch mail messages.
    
    Thanks kids,
    
    she is on   RANGER::MAITLAND
    

    
    
    mail sent! :)

Yes, Stacey is a lurker in here at times and I know her from working in that
group. This is a great opportunity to send her a surprise and drag her out of
lurkdom.

Jim

    
    
    	mail sent...:)
    
    

This mostly concerns our US noters but I thought it might be something people
in here weren't aware of.

     CAMPAIGN TO STOP THE NET CENSORSHIP LEGISLATION IN CONGRESS

    On Tuesday December 12, 1995, Join With Hundreds of Thousands
                  Of Your Fellow Internet Users In

                  A NATIONAL INTERNET DAY OF PROTEST

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________________________________________________________________________
CONTENTS
        Internet Day of Protest: Tuesday December 12, 1995
        What You Must Do On Tuesday December 12, 1995
        List of Participating Organizations
	Where Can I Learn More?

________________________________________________________________________
INTERNET DAY OF PROTEST:  TUESDAY DECEMBER 12, 1995

Outrageous proposals to censor the Internet demand that the Internet
Community take swift and immediate action. We must stand up and let
Congress know that we will not tolerate their attempts to destroy this
medium! Please join hundreds of thousands of your fellow citizens in a
National Day of Protest on Tuesday December 12, 1995.

As you know, on Wednesday December 6, 1995, the House Conference
Committee on Telecommunications Reform voted to impose far reaching and
unconstitutional "indecency" restrictions on the Internet and other
interactive media, including large commercial online services (such as
America Online, Compuserve, and Prodigy) and smaller Internet Service
Providers such as Panix, the Well, Echo, and Mindvox.

These restrictions threaten the very existence of the Internet and
interactive media as a viable medium for free expression, education,
commerce.  If enacted, the Internet as we know it will never be the
same.

Libraries will not be able to put any books online that might
offend a child somewhere.  No "Catcher in the Rye" or "Ulysses" on the net.
Internet Service Providers could face criminal penalties for allowing
children to subscribe to their Internet Services, forcing many  small
companies to simply refuse to sell their services to anyone under 18. Worst
of all, everything you say and publish on the net will have to be "dumbed
down" to that which is acceptable to a child.

As Internet users, we simply must not allow this assault against the
Internet and our most basic freedoms to go unchallenged.

On Tuesday December 12, the organizations below are urging you to
join us in a NATIONAL DAY OF PROTEST. The goal is to flood key members of
the House and Senate with phone calls, faxes and email with the message
that the Internet community WILL NOT TOLERATE Congressional attempts to
destroy the Internet, limit our freedoms and trample on our rights.

Below are the phone, fax, and email address of several key members of
Congress on this issue and instructions on what you can do to join the
National Day of Protest to save the Net.

______________________________________________________________________
WHAT YOU MUST DO ON TUESDAY DECEMBER 12, 1995

1. Throughout the day Tuesday December 12, please contact as many
   members of Congress on the list below as you can. If you are only
   able to make one call, contact House Speaker Newt Gingrich. Finally,
   if the Senator or Representative from your state is on the list
   below, be sure to contact him or her also.

2. Urge each Member of Congress to "stop the madness".  Tell them that
   they are about to pass legislation that will destroy the Internet as
   an educational and commercial medium.  If you are at a loss for
   words, try the following sample communique:

   Sample phone call:

        Both the House and Senate bills designed to protect children
        from objectionable material on the Internet will actually
        destroy the Internet as an medium for education, commerce, and
        political discourse. There are other, less restrictive ways to
        address this issue.

        I urge you to oppose both measures being proposed in the
        conference committee.  This is an important election issue to
        me.

   Sample letter (fax or email):

        The Senate conferees are considering ways to protect children
        from inappropriate material on the Internet.  A vote for either
        the House or Senate proposals will result in the destruction of
        the Internet as a viable medium for free expression, education,
        commerce.  Libraries will not be able to put their entire book
        collections online.  Everyday people like me will risk massive
        fines and prison sentences for public discussions someone s
        somewhere might consider "indecent".

        There are other, less restrictive ways to protect children from
        objectionable material online. This is an important election
        issue to me.

3. If you're in San Francisco, or near enough to get there, go to 
   the Rally Against Censorship from Ground Zero of the Digital Revolution:

   WHEN: Monday, December 11, 1995  12:00 - 1:00 PM
   WHERE: South Park (between 2nd and 3rd, Bryant and Brannon) San Francisco.
   SPEAKERS: To be announced
   BRING: Attention-grabbing posters, signs, and banners that demonstrate
	your committment to free speech and expression, and your feelings
	about Congress.
   FOR UPDATED INFORMATION (including rain info):
	http://www.hotwired.com/staff/digaman/


### THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT ###

4. Mail a note to protest@vtw.org to let us know you did your part.
   Although you will not receive a reply due to the number of
   anticipated responses, we'll be counting up the number of people that
   participated in the day of protest.


      P ST Name and Address           Phone           Fax
      = == ========================   ==============  ==============
      R AK Stevens, Ted               1-202-224-3004  1-202-224-1044
      R AZ McCain, John               1-202-224-2235  1-602-952-8702
        senator_mccain@mccain.senate.gov
      D HI Inouye, Daniel K.          1-202-224-3934  1-202-224-6747
      R KS Dole, Robert               1-202-224-6521  1-202-228-1245
      D KY Ford, Wendell H.           1-202-224-4343  1-202-224-0046
        wendell_ford@ford.senate.gov
      R MS Lott, Trent                1-202-224-6253  1-202-224-2262
      R MT Burns, Conrad R.           1-202-224-2644  1-202-224-8594
        conrad_burns@burns.senate.gov
      D NE Exon, J. J.                1-202-224-4224  1-202-224-5213
      D SC Hollings, Ernest F.        1-202-224-6121  1-202-224-4293
        senator@hollings.senate.gov
      R SD Pressler, Larry            1-202-224-5842  1-202-224-1259
        larry_pressler@pressler.senate.gov
      R WA Gorton, Slade              1-202-224-3441  1-202-224-9393
        senator_gorton@gorton.senate.gov
      D WV Rockefeller, John D.       1-202-224-6472  n.a.
        senator@rockefeller.senate.gov

   Dist ST Name, Address, and Party     Phone            Fax
   ==== == ========================     ==============  ==============
      6 GA Gingrich, Newt (R)           1-202-225-4501   1-202-225-4656
             2428 RHOB                      georgia6@hr.house.gov
     14 MI Conyers Jr., John (D)        1-202-225-5126   1-202-225-0072
             2426 RHOB                      jconyers@hr.house.gov
      1 CO Schroeder, Patricia (D)      1-202-225-4431   1-202-225-5842
             2307 RHOB
     18 TX Jackson-Lee, Sheila (D)      1-202-225-3816	 1-202-225-3317
             1520 LHOB
      6 TN Gordon, Bart (D)             1-202-225-4231   1-202-225-6887
             2201 RHOB


4. Forward this alert to all of your wired friends.

________________________________________________________________________
WHERE CAN I LEARN MORE?

At this moment, there are several organizations with WWW sites that now
have, or will have, information about the net censorship legislation and
the National Day Of Protest:

American Civil Liberties Union (ftp://ftp.aclu.org/aclu/)
Center for Democracy and Technology (http://www.cdt.org/)
Electronic Frontier Foundation (http://www.eff.org/)
Electronic Privacy Information Center (http://www.epic.org/)
Wired Magazine (http://www.hotwired.com/special/indecent/)
Voters Telecommunications Watch (http://www.vtw.org/)

________________________________________________________________________
LIST OF PARTICIPATING ORGANIZATIONS

In order to use the net more effectively, several organizations have
joined forces on a single Congressional net campaign to stop the
Communications Decency Act.


American Civil Liberties Union * American Communication Association *
American Council for the Arts * Arts & Technology Society * Association
of Alternative Newsweeklies * biancaTroll productions * Boston
Coalition for Freedom of Expression * Californians Against Censorship
Together * Center For Democracy And Technology * Centre for Democratic
Communications * Center for Public Representation * Citizen's Voice -
New Zealand * Cloud 9 Internet *Computer Communicators Association *
Computel Network Services * Computer Professionals for Social
Responsibility * Cross Connection * Cyber-Rights Campaign * CyberQueer
Lounge * Dorsai Embassy * Dutch Digital Citizens' Movement * ECHO
Communications Group, Inc. * Electronic Frontier Canada * Electronic
Frontier Foundation * Electronic Frontier Foundation - Austin *
Electronic Frontiers Australia * Electronic Frontiers Houston *
Electronic Frontiers New Hampshire * Electronic Privacy Information
Center * Feminists For Free Expression * First Amendment Teach-In *
Florida Coalition Against Censorship * FranceCom, Inc. Web Advertising
Services * Friendly Anti-Censorship Taskforce for Students * Hands
Off!  The Net * Inland Book Company * Inner Circle Technologies, Inc. *
Inst. for Global Communications * Internet On-Ramp, Inc. * Internet
Users Consortium * Joint Artists' and Music Promotions Political Action
Committee * The Libertarian Party * Marijuana Policy Project *
Metropolitan Data Networks Ltd. * MindVox * MN Grassroots Party *
National Bicycle Greenway * National Campaign for Freedom of Expression
* National Coalition Against Censorship * National Gay and Lesbian Task
Force * National Public Telecomputing Network * National Writers Union
* Oregon Coast RISC * Panix Public Access Internet * People for the
American Way * Republican Liberty Caucus * Rock Out Censorship *
Society for Electronic Access * The Thing International BBS Network *
The WELL * Voters Telecommunications Watch

(Note: All 'Electronic Frontier' organizations are independent entities,
 not EFF chapters or divisions.)

One note to show the impact of this legislation. This would restrict the use
of search engines on the internet from finding information based on "bad
words". One such example of how this simply can't work is that a search
disallowed due to the word breast being used would not allow women to look up
information concerning breast cancer. The implications of the restrictions
this legislation imposes is far beyond a few teenage boys looking at dirty
pictures. This is simply the first volley in the fight over first amendment
rights.

    
    	I have e-mail/fax address of most of our congress critters for
    those who would like them. Search my directory under:
    
    SUBPAC::DISK$SUB_USER9:[SADIN.TOOLS.FIREARMS]
    
    	I believe the list is under CONGRESS.EMAIL or some such thing. Feel
    free to copy.
    
    
    	chico

Thanks Chico. This freedom stuff is WORK 8^)

If they restrict our electronic lives too much, all we'll HAVE is innuendo...

    
    
    	no question about it being work CM....gotta keep on top of the
    buggers all the time!
    
    
    chico

    
    Does anyone know someone in any of the Alabama sites, or know of
    anyone who knows of someone who knows of someone?  We have sites
    in Birmingham, Dothan, Huntsville, Mobile and Montgomery.  I really
    need to speak with someone from their.   I know I could just call any
    one of the reception numbers, but I don't want to get passed off
    and then lost.
    
    Thanks
    
    Ann
    

I'm hoping one of you can help me...I'm sure you can.  Having recently changed
sites, I have a new account.  It's giving me a couple of problems that my
last account did not.  I get long name mail files in my directory for each
message I receive.  I also get files in my root directory any time I write
a note in a notesfile.  I know something was set up in my last account so this
didn't happen.  Hopefully I've explained it well enough so you'll know
what I'm talking about!!

Thanks,
Lola    

    
    
    Lola,
    
    There is a file created for each VMS mail that you read.  You can set
    up a folder in VMS mail and put the read mail into that which will
    eliminate the long file names...or you can delete the mail after you
    read it.....
    
    I am afraid I can't help you with the notes thingy....I end up with a
    notebook entry in my account which is essetially the listing of notes
    conferences that I read......
    
    
    Craig
    

    
    
    
    lola..the fix for mail that Craig gave is correct.
    I've not seen the notes entry thing.
    Maybe if you post an example, we can look it up
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    
    	also regarding the mail, you'll have to create the directory
    [.mail] and then set your mail directory inside mail. Example:
    
    $ create/dir [.mail]
    $ mail
    MAIL> set mail_directory [.mail]
    MAIL> show mail_directory
    Your mail file directory is USER1$:[J_SADIN.MAIL].
    
    MAIL>
    
    
    don't know about the notes thing. I'd try getting a new notebook put
    together....sounds like something's corrupted. Or set up a small .com
    file to automatically delete those files on logout and logon.
    
    
    chico

Thanks everyone for your help, the way Chico (and CM) say seems like what
I'm looking for.  I don't want to get into folders and all that.

For the notes*.tmp;* folders that are created, can I just put a line in my
login.com "del notes*.tmp;*"?

Thanks,
Lola

> can I just put a line in my login.com "del notes*.tmp;*"?

Sure. You could also put it into a script that starts up notes so that when
Notes exits it does the cleanup at that point.

    
    
    	something like this:
    
    $ ! this file is for opening your notebook and cleaning the tmp files
    $ notes
    $ del/noconf/log notes*.tmp;*
    $ exit

>    $ ! this file is for opening your notebook and cleaning the tmp files
>    $ notes
>    $ del/noconf/log notes*.tmp;*
>    $ exit


And exactly *where* would I put this? :-))))

Well, you could put it in a file in your login directory called donotes.com
and then add the line:

$ nice*notes :== "spawn/input=sys$login:donotes.com"

into your login.com

The asterics means you can use anything after that point as an abreviation.
(nice will work, as will nicen...)

Or you could just say @donotes in DCL

>Poem by Gail Barnes
>=============================================================
>>>
>>>                 I Shot A Query Into The Net
>>>
>>> I shot a query into the net.
>>> I haven't got an answer yet,
>>> But seven people gave me hell
>>> And said I ought to learn to spell;
>>>
>>> A posted message called me rotten
>>> For ignoring mail I'd never gotten;
>>> An angry message asked me, Please
>>> Don't send such drivel overseas;
>>>
>>> A lawyer sent me private mail
>>> And swore he'd slap my butt in jail --
>>> I'd mentioned Un*x in my gem
>>> And failed to add the T and M;
>>>
>>> One netter thought it was a hoax:
>>> "Hereafter, post to net dot jokes!";
>>> Another called my grammar vile
>>> And criticized my writing style.
>>>
>>> Each day I scan each Subject line
>>> In hopes the topic will be mine;
>>> I shot a query into the net.
>>> I haven't got an answer yet ...

Follow up on 49.368. We can and do have an impact and voice.

Subject: ALERT: The Net rocks the capitol;still time to call

========================================================================
     CAMPAIGN TO STOP THE NET CENSORSHIP LEGISLATION IN CONGRESS

     THE NET ROCKS AMERICA'S CAPITOL - NEARLY 20,000 PARTICIPANTS
                    THURSDAY DECEMBER 14, 1995

            SENATE CONFEREES COULD STILL VOTE THIS WEEK
        RALLIES HAPPENING IN AUSTIN, NEW YORK, SF, & SEATTLE

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________________________________________________________________________

RECAP: INTERNET DAY OF PROTEST:  TUESDAY DECEMBER 12, 1995

The net came into its own as a political force on Tuesday.  The
press release has more details.  If you haven't taken a moment to
call, fax, or email, do so now.  We're still keeping track and only
need a few more to break 20,000.

VTW had someone onhand in DC monitoring the response at the Congressional
offices.  The feedback was amazing; Congress got the message.  We need to
sustain that by continuing to tell them we're not happy with the options
being offered to us at this time.

Directions for calling Congress can still be found at http://www.vtw.org/
and the many other sites listed at the end of this message.  Take a moment
to call!  Don't forget to mail us a note at protest@vtw.org to let us
know you took part in the Day Of Protest (and Day 2, and Day 3, and Day 4).


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE                             December 13, 1995
                                            Contact:  Steven Cherry
                                                     (718) 596-2851
                                                        stc@vtw.org
                                                     Shabbir Safdar
                                                     (718) 596-2851
                                                    shabbir@vtw.org

New York, NY

Are 20,000 phone calls a lot? 30,000? 50,000? They are if you're one of a
handful of Congressional staffers trying to field them. Tuesday, December
12th was the Internet's Day of Protest. A variety of net-activists and
telecommunications-related services exhorted the on-line community to call
a selected group of Senators and Representatives to declare their
opposition to the threat of Internet censorship. And call they did.

As the Senate members of the Telecommunications Reform conference
committee contemplated portions of legislation that would censor
"indecent" material on-line, their staffers were being overwhelmed with
phone calls. Senator Inouye's office said they were "getting lots and lots
of calls and faxes." Senator Lott's said they were "flooded with calls."
At Senator Stevens' office there were so many calls they couldn't keep
a complete tally.

At Senator Exon's office, the fax machine was "backed up."  And at one
point, activists couldn't even get through to Senator Gorton's office to
ask. Exon is the Senator whose Communications Decency Act started the
nearly year-long struggle between those who would create special
regulations to restrict speech on-line (even, in certain instances,
private email between two individuals) to a greater extent than even
traditional broadcast media; regulations that, according to the ACLU and
many other civil liberties groups, will certainly be proven to be
unconstitutional if passed into law.

"We've never seen anything like it," said Stanton McCandish of the
Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF). The EFF is one member of the on-line
coalition that has been fighting an array of censorship legislation since
this spring, when Senator Exon introduced his Communications Decency Act.

"We may have almost overwhelmed our provider," said Shabbir Safdar, head
of Voter's Telecommunications Watch (VTW). VTW is the organization that
organized the on-line coalition. Their on-line connectivity is provided by
Panix.com, a New York-area Internet service provider. "Panix has been
doing some maintenance work today, so it's hard to tell," Safdar
continued. "But we think it's actually made a dent in their connection
to the rest of the Net."

How many calls were actually made? No one can tell. For Leslie Miller, a
reporter for USA Today, it took much of the afternoon to get some counts
from Congressional staffers, and she couldn't get any report from the
Senate's Sergeant-At-Arms, the office nominally responsible for the
Senate's telephone system. VTW may be the only organization that can
really make an educated guess.

"In our Alerts we ask that people drop us an email note after they call,"
explained VTW board member Steven Cherry. "The message count peaked in the
late afternoon at over 70 per minute. Many of those were from people who
called several offices. By 7:30 P.M. (EST) we had gotten 14,000 messages.
By Wednesday morning the count was over 18,000. And of course there are
the people who called but didn't send us email. So all told, our very
rough guess is there were well over 50,000 phone calls and faxes made on
the one day."

"The Net is coming of age, politically," said Jerry Berman, Director of
the Center for Democracy and Technology (CDT), another member of the
on-line coalition. Safdar, of VTW, concurred, saying, "I think Washington
got the message today that there's a new grass-roots interest group
around, and we're going to be a big part of the 1996 elections." (VTW's
initial election activities can be found at http://www.vtw.org/pledge.)

In addition to the Day of Protest, rallies are scheduled on Thursday,
December 14th, in San Francisco and Seattle, and a protest will be held
that day at 2:00 in New York City.

The New York rally will be at the Cyber-Cafe, 273A Lafayette St from 2-3pm
on Thursday, Dec 14th.  Contact Steven Cherry or Shabbir J. Safdar for
details.

The Austin rally is planned for Tue. Dec 19th.  No more information is
available at this time.

Information about the San Francisco rally can be obtained from
http://www.hotwired.com/staff/digaman/.

Information about the Seattle rally can be obtained from
http://www.wnia.org/WNIA/hap/rally.html.

Voters Telecommunications Watch is a volunteer organization, concentrating
on legislation as it relates to telecommunications and civil liberties.
VTW publishes a weekly BillWatch that tracks relevant legislation as it
progresses through Congress. It publishes periodic Alerts to inform the
about immediate action it can take to protect its on-line civil liberties
and privacy.

More information about VTW can be found on-line at

  gopher -p 1/vtw gopher.panix.com
  www: http://www.vtw.org

or by writing to vtw@vtw.org. The press can call (718) 596-2851 or
contact:

   Shabbir Safdar         Steven Cherry
   shabbir@vtw.org        stc@vtw.org

________________________________________________________________________
WHERE CAN I LEARN MORE?

At this moment, there are several organizations with WWW sites that now
have, or will have, information about the net censorship legislation and
the National Day Of Protest:

American Civil Liberties Union (ftp://ftp.aclu.org/aclu/)
Center for Democracy and Technology (http://www.cdt.org/)
Electronic Frontier Foundation (http://www.eff.org/)
Electronic Privacy Information Center (http://www.epic.org/)
Wired Magazine (http://www.hotwired.com/special/indecent/)
Voters Telecommunications Watch (http://www.vtw.org/ or finger vtw@panix.com)

________________________________________________________________________
        End Alert

    Does anyone know what happened to the WHOAREYOU conference? The last
    time I accessed it, t'was on SSDEVO (or something similiar to that) I
    get inappropriate device message now, that to me usually indicates a
    conference move or shut down. (But then I am your classic PC idiot,
    beautiful, cute and charming, but electronically void) (if you know
    what I mean)
    
    Serenity

    
    
    Serenity....I think that conference went away quite a while ago.....
    
    
    Craig
    

FROM THE TURRIS::EASYNET_CONFERENCES notesfile:
    
	The WHOAREYOU conference is now on:

		SSDEVO::WHOAREYOU

	A lot of things got missed in the shuffle of DISK$RAID_USER,
	but the conventional place should be safe...

        <<< SSDEVO::DISK$SSDEVO_SYS2:[NOTES$LIBRARY]WHOAREYOU.NOTE;1 >>>
                       -< Worldwide Noters Registry II >-
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EUREKA::KRISTY                                       22 lines   2-OCT-1985 12:16
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This notesfile has been created so you, the noters, can make yourself 
known to other noters around the world.  Please note that this file is 
for registering yourself only, not for a place to converse.  If there 
is someone's note that you've seen has similar interests as you, by 
all means, let them know that you exist, but send them mail!  Please 
do not put it in here.  All replies that aren't pertinent to the base 
note will be deleted.  This file is open to everyone worldwide and 
will be available 24 hours a day, every day. 

A good format to follow might be:

Name -
Where you work, where you live -
What your job is at DEC -
How long you've been with DEC -
What you did before DEC (other jobs, or straight into DEC after 
college, or still in college) -
About yourself (hair/eye colour, height, marital status if you want) -
Hobbies/Interests -
And anything else you want to tell us about!!

				*** Kristy ***

    
    
    Hey Chico....I thought that one had been closed down.....I guess I was
    mistaken......
    
    
    C
    

    
    	I wasn't sure about it myself until I added it and got in! :)
    
    
    

    Thanks so much for all your help Cheeks! I owe ya a big cold one!
    
    I talked with Alan Rollow at CXO electronically yesterday also. I don't
    know if anyone left in here remembers him or not, but he is alive and
    well and still moderating WHOAREYOU.
    
    Hugs to everyone!

    
    HI,
    
    Has anybody had or know of anybody that has had a dental implant?  I'm 
    considering it and wondering what luck people have had!
    
    /jen

    Jen - excuse my ignorance - but WHAT is a Dental Implant mate?
    
    
    luv
    
    D.

    
    It is a procedure where they 'replace' a bad tooth with a fake.  Rather
    than just crown it, you have a surgical procedure to make a socket in
    your jaw bone and then a cosmetic insert.   Supposedly look very
    natural and are long-lasting.
    
    /jen

    rather you than me Jen - Im dead chicken when it comes to the dentist -
    I mean I go when Im supposed to  - but Im a bag of nerves for days
    before.......erm.....no - that's not for me!!!
    
    luv
    
    D.

    
    In general I have good straight teeth and I go every six months for a 
    cleaning like clockwork.  Unfortunately when I have a tooth go bad...it
    goes REALLY bad.  Either I get the implant or I go for bone surgery
    which sounded REALLY awful and isn't too likely to work or I go for a
    three unit permanent bridge which sounds like trashing two other teeth
    if you ask me!
    
    I've heard estimates of $2000+ for the work.  :(
    
    /jen

    
    
    /jen, I have heard that the implant is not a bad way to go in the long
    run.....the procedure is probably the worst part......I have a lot of
    crowns.....and my dentist wants to put in a bridge....but I can't see
    destroying 2 perfectly good teeth for a bridge.....
    
    
    Craig
    

    I cant see doing anything for a dentist!!!!
    
    But that's just my personal opinion!!
    
    luv
    
    D

    
    
    
    Deb Darlin'......someones' gotta pay for the dnetists trips to the warm
    sunny vacation spots.......heheheheheh
    
    

    I aint sending no dentist to no warm sunny spot!!!
    
    
    luv
    
    D.  :-))

    
    RE: D,
    
    My dentist says I deserve a personal parking space cuz I paid for her
    swimming pool with the work I've had done!
    
    :^)
    
    /jen

	And my dentist is my b-i-l snd he doesn't charge me a thing.
	(they don't have a swimming pool)!

	Lola

    well, who's a lucky ducky then Lola???
    
    
    luv
    
    D.

    
    Seriously, I had a great dentist (who's pool I paid for)...I just
    needed some serious work done!
    
    And I _LOVE_ my oral surgeon.  He does excellent work and I trust him
    with my life...which is very true for an asthmatic being put under
    anesthesia!
    
    /jen

    Im glad I dont suffer from Asthma......
    
    luv
    
    D.

    
    I developed it when I was in about 2nd grade.  My lungs had been
    weakend by having croup as a child and being in a tent to breath.  But
    I pretty much outgrew it as a teenager.  Only flares up now with
    illness or allergies...but you have to be very careful being put under!
    
    /jen

    Deb,
    	Why not, It's great to have (NOT) ..............
    
    
    
    
    				SJB

Lola, I'm not sure I'd go to a dentist that didn't have a financial interest in
the outcome 8^)

Afternoon everyone (evening Deb)

    I dont want asthma guys!!!!!! - it's not nice!!!!
    
    
    I wouldnt be able to do all the things that I do - without getting an
    attack!!! - my mum had it - it was enough listening to her stories!!
    
    I suppose I should be thankful.
    
    I am thankful.
    
    Luv
    
    D.
    
    

    well, Hello Jimboy!!!
    
    hows it going???
    
    luv
    
    D.

>Lola, I'm not sure I'd go to a dentist that didn't have a financial interest in
>the outcome 8^)

CM, you would if he loved you like a brother!!!

Lola

    
    They've come a long way in managing asthma though.  My oldest brother
    had it VERY badly and with the right treatments he is able to
    competitively race motorcycles and ride a mountain bike up Mt
    Wachusett....so life goes on!
    
    :)
    
    /jen

Better, finally. Getting a bit organized after missing almost a week of work.
(flu and snow)

You've all been SOOOOO busy, I can't afford to catch up.

    Deb,
    	Are you thankful that you don't have it or that you are not going
    to get it..........:*)
    
    
    				( I'm just kidding )
    
    
    
    					SJB

> CM, you would if he loved you like a brother!!!

Not even if he loved me like a wife 8^)

ChickenMan

Well I do take care of their kids occasionally and cook them food, so if he
didn't do a great job, there are plenty of opportunities for revenge!!!

Lola

    Im off guys - be good.....
    
    
    luv  
    
    D.
    
    xxx

    Bye!!
     	Deb....
    
    
    		SJB

    
    
    Night Deb Darlin'....have a nice evening......
    
    Craig
    

    /jen...
    
    My right front tooth is completly fake.  It's not an implant, but it's
    basically a rebuilt tooth.  I was horsing around when I was about 16
    with a few friends, and ended up getting hit in the mouth with a friend
    of mine's class ring.  Broke my tooth in half!  Since then I've had it
    rebuilt twice.  This second time has lasted 6 years and it's still as
    strong as can be.  It looks completly natural.  
    
    Ask about rebuilding the tooth.
    
    Holly
    
    

    Now for my request for help.  Has anyone been able to send mail to
    Terri Woodford?  the address that I have, woodsmt@aol.com, doesn't seem
    to work.
    
    Can anyone tell me her correct address?
    
    Thanks
    
    Holly
    

I sent mail to that request a while back and never got a reply, nor did I get a
bounced message so I couldn't tell ya. Has anyone heard from here lately?

    
    	I got a christmas card from them, but I haven't talked to Terrie in
    ages...I should give the girl a call.
    
    
    chico

    
    I just got mail from Terrie today...regarding an Ice Cats game!
    
    Address was:
    
    US4RMC::"WOODSMT@aol.com"
    
    P.S. Thanks for the tooth feedback.  When the crown broke off it
    basically went down to the gumline.  Dentist talked about bone surgery
    but said it is very painful and probably won't work.  Other two options
    were the implant and a three-unit bridge which does sound like
    destroying too much of abutting teeth!
    
    

    
    Holly...be sure to use upper and lower case on Terrie's address.  Some
    say it doesn't matter but I've seen it make a difference!
    
    /jen

    Well, I tried again, this time with WOOSMT in all caps.  Hopefully
    it'll work this time.  
    
    Jen, could you answer her mail message and ask her to send me mail? 
    thanks!
    
    Holly
    

    
    
    I sent Terrie a christmas mail at that address and never got a reply
    or a bounced message.
    
    The account is her hubby's so I guess we're relying on him to 
    relay the mail.
    
    Chris
    :)

>    basically went down to the gumline.  Dentist talked about bone surgery
>    but said it is very painful and probably won't work.

  Did he say why this surgery would be painful, more so than an implant?
  Considering the choices, I agree with the last reply that an implant sounds
like the way to go.

    
    I'm not really sure...something about having to do procedures to try
    to build-up the tooth base.  She also said that it would require
    three extensive procedures and would probably 'fail' (break away)
    anyway.    The implant is supposedly only two procedures....one being
    the 'nasty' one of oral surgery to implant a socket....the second
    being the cosmetic procedure of the tooth...like putting in a crown.
    
    /jen

    
    Hi Folks...especially all our English ::FRIENDS.   Someone in another
    notes conference was asking for ideas of fun things to do in
    Basingstoke.   I've been there but all we managed to do was go bowling
    and go to the Spruce Goose.
    
    Can you give other recommendations for the area.  Music things would
    be great...like are there any decent clubs?
    
    /jen

    >ideas of fun things to do in Basingstoke.
    
     	Tell them not to do it... don't goto Basingstoke... ;->
    
    	Cheers,         
    
    	Rick.	

    
    That was my first bit of advice!
    
    I mean EVEN Reading is better than blazingsmoke! :^)
    
    But if YOU HAVE to be in Basingstoke, what is there fun to do?
    
    C'mon...I know it is a challenge!
    
    /jen

Apparently the most fun thing to do is go home on time... 8^)

Hi Jen,

I'm not a local to the Basingstoke area, so I can't really offer you any
helpful advice either!  :o)

Have you tried the:

	govt02::basingstoke

conference yet?


H.

    
    
    
    go to Reading and catch a train to London :))))

>    Basingstoke.   I've been there but all we managed to do was go bowling
>    and go to the Spruce Goose.
    
  What is the Spruce Goose? I thought it was in Long Beach, CA.

    
    THe Spruce Goose is a restaurant/pub in a plaza in Basingstoke,
    England.   There is a bowling alley in the same plaza.
    
    /jen

	Can someone give me directions to MR01-2?  I've never been to
	the Marlboro facilities and have a class there Wednesday.  Is that
	the DEC plant I see right off of 495?

	Thanks,
	Lola

    
    
    	Take 495 to the Rt20/Marlboro exit. Take a right(I think?) off the
    exit and follow 20 past the lake (lake will be on your right). Take
    your first right after the lake (you'll see a D'Angelos directly in
    front of you). You should pass the courthouse on your right. Follow this
    road to the MRO facilities!
    
    chico
    
    p.s. - you should be able to see the marlboro courthouse "dome" from
    Rt20 once you get next to the lake.
    
                             

Another cry for help!  My niece asked me to look up anything on "Public
proposal to better prepare students for the workplace."  I've been searching
the WWW for hours.  Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
Laura

    Lola,
    
    I do a lot of work in the undergraduate/graduate space in England, but am 
    not totally clear from your note exactly what your niece is looking
    for.  
    
    It seems quite a broad subject, and could relate to any government or
    local council proposals/existing programmes. Equally it could be to do 
    with activities employers do to assist students - at school or
    university level.
    
    What age range is she looking for?  and is she looking to confine it to
    the US? That could have an impact on where to begin/end searches.   
    
    I may be able to provide some help on the UK activities, but she would
    need to be more specific about her requirements.
    
    Jackie
    

Jackie,

The subject is very broad, and that's how it was explained to her.  I did get
tons of info off the Web for her, but could find no specific proposal.  She's
writing it for a scholarship to the school she's been accepted into.  Hopefully
I got her what she needs!  Thanks!

Lola

    Lola,
    
    ahhh!  Fingers crossed that she gets her scholarship.  The offer still
    stands if she needs an overseas comparison. 
    
    Jackie

Thanks Jackie,  I'll see if she does!

Lola

    
    Hi!
    
    I got upgraded to NETSCAPE Version 2 yesterday and now I'm getting an
    error trying to access newsgroups.
    
    The error says 
    
    NETSCAPE is unable to located the server: news
    
    THe server does not have a DNS entry.  Check the server name (URL)
    and try again.
    
    When I go into Option-
    			Mail/News preferences
    I have
    
    			News [NNTP] server: news
    
    Anybody know what this should be set to instead?
    
    /jen

/jen

> News [NNTP] server: news

Try changing "news" to "usenet.pa.dec.com"

Hope this helps...


H   :o)

    
    Thanks  H! 
    
    It worked! :)
    
    /jen

    
    Hi...asking for HELP again! :)
    
    Can anybody tell me how to get to the Plantation Club in Worcester?
    
    Thanks!
    
    /jen

    Morning...

    
    
    /jen ..take a cab! :))))
    
    sorry no can do on the help thing!! :)))
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    
    	Plantation Club in Worcester eh? Well, I can tell you how to get to
    Plantation st, but I'm not sure if the club is on that street or not!
    :*) Could you find out what street it's on? The Plantation street exit
    is just off 290 east (when coming from worcester).
    
    
    jim

    I need some serious help regarding how to properly handle a situation
    at work.
    
    We have this new Contractor who's in his second week here and
    he seems to want to take control of everything and everyone. He was asked,
    by my manager, to assist me in developing an Operations Manual for our
    Help Desk and has since taken over the project entirely! In addition,
    he's been doling out assignments and "requesting" the rest of us to do
    his bidding while he spends all day long God-knows-where doing
    God-knows-what. He was originally hired on as a local Software Analyst
    to assist our staff in resolving customers' issues. I don't think he's
    spent more than 10 minutes, if that, where he belongs since he's
    started.
    
    I'm getting fed up with his insistence that he's "KING" and that we're
    here to support him and his project. He has an air about him that has,
    so far, rubbed everyone at my Help Desk the wrong way! The only
    positive thing he's done is to band the rest of us together via our
    dislike of him and his mannerisms - not that that comraderie didn't
    exist before...
    
    Usually, I have no problem dealing with people, however, I'd like
    people's opinions on how to deal with something of this nature.
    
    Thanks for letting me write-off some steam and for your anticipated
    assistance. SOMETHING'S got to be done!!!
    
    STRETCH

    Well first I would start with trying to tell him "look we all here
    don't appretiate the way you have been treating us. We are all adults
    and know how to things without you telling us." 
    
    Now I know that sounds lame but it does sometimes work. In fact it
    worked for me last night. 
    
    If he doesn't respond very well go up to someone higher than him and
    tell them you tried to work it out with him and it just isn't working.
    Maybe, doubt it but, they will try to get someone new who can work with
    you guys.
    
    Please keep me informed of any changes.
    
    JC_worried

    JC: Welp, one of the things I've done, so far, is I copied today's
    Dilbert comic out of the Boston Globe. I'll try to describe it so
    everyone'll get the gist of it.
    
    Frame 1: A guy's handing Dilbert a piece of paper and saying, "I NEED
    THIS INFORMATION TODAY. PLUS A COMPLETE ANALYSIS OF THE ALTERNATIVES."
    
    Frame 2: Dilbert's show slamming the paper in the trash with the words
    "Crinkle"
        "Crinkle"
            "STUFF" above his head.
    
    Frame 3: The guy's looking at Dilbert saying, "THAT WASN'T NICE." with
    Dilbert replying, "IN TODAY'S LESSON, YOU LEARN THAT YOU'RE MO
    CO-WORKER, NOT MY BOSS."
    
    I've paperclipped it to one of his assignments, hoping he'll get the
    subtle message rather than confronting him outright.
    
    STRETCH

    I hope that does it. this guy sonds like a putz.
    
    I also think we just might have a few things in common. 8)
    
    JC

    I would get the group together to confront the JERK, and then if that
    did not work.... Go TOGETHER to the Supervisor, and make the complaint 
    known.... Then everyone get some BLUE FLU!
    
    Dave

    Welp, the KING came in this mornin' and sawe my little cartoon on his
    "assignment". He asked the others if that was my kind of joke, they
    just looked at him. Then, I guess, he mentioned that he was just doin'
    waht he was told to do and "we'll see" what happens when our Boss
    comes in today! <Ooooh! I'm Scared! - NOT!!!> Another co-worker kindly
    reminded him that he'd probably would've had less friction if he stayed
    in our area and requested our help as needed and that his primary job
    was the HelpDesk and the Ops Guide was a side-job to be completed on
    his spare time. The way I see it, he's had 24 hrs+ (Tuesday to present)
    to complete "his" project - which, originally, was assigned to me,
    incidentally - and there's no excuse why he couldn't get it done in
    that amount of time.
    
    Methinks there's gonna be a sparring match today....
    
    STRETCH

    
    	I would most definitely go to the supervisor/manager of your group
    and let him know that you all have a problem with the way this gent is
    forcing his will upon you. Explain your reasons and possibly ask the
    boss if your group can get together with the KING and the boss to have
    a problem solving session. This kind of mediated discussion is usually
    more productive than the verbal sniping that takes place during
    unmoderated talks. 
    
    	IMHO of course..
    
    
    	chico

    This is probably more aimed at our US ::FRIENDS, but I need some help
    with one of my projects.
    
    We're looking at the possibility of using the Internet as a means of
    recruitment (when we turn that corner!) and information site to run 
    alongside our current practices for possibly both internal and external
    vacancies.  We're way behind our US colleagues who are already doing this.
    
    I'm looking for feedback from people (line Managers etc) who have
    used/are using this to recruit people.  I've tried mailing the people
    who have had Digital jobs posted on the Web site, but had no response -
    could be that I'm doing something wrong - and I've been unsuccessful in
    finding them on ELF.
    
    Do any of you know people I can contact who have tried to recruit in
    this way?  Contact names would be really useful.
    
    
    Thanks,
    Jackie

    Seeking some suggestions from you New Englander's...
    
    I will be out in July (this is becoming a habit again :) with a client,
    and they have put inthe suggestion that where we have our team meeting
    be a place that definitely serves lobster.
    
    So, I am looking for places in the Nashua/Merrimack area that could
    accomodate a group of approximately 16 that is somewhat classy (major
    important client here) that definitely serves whole lobsters.
    
    Any ideas?
    
    Thanks!
    
    Shi

Shi,

If it's that classy, are you sure you want whole lobsters?  I can just picture
these important clients with lobster bibs on and juice running down their
hands...

Lola

    
    
    Juice running down the face?? what kind of juice?? :)))))
    
    Chris
    }8)

I don't know...I mentioned lobster juice running down their *hands*...
What kind of juice do *you* picture running down their face? ;->

Lola

Well, I guess if you start to handle the lobster too much, it'll start
to juice all over your hand anyway...  ;o)


H.

    
    
    Yup when you handle things, thats what happens! :))
    
    But Lobster juice is definitely not what I had in mind! :)))
    
    Chris
    :)

    watch it, folks.
    
    H

    
    
    I was talking about the butter sauce that accompanies the lobster!!!
    Sheesh!!
    
    YOu can't say anything these days that people don't take it dirty
    and that disgusts me!!
    
    Chris_doing_Steve_Martin_impersonation
    :)

    re -1
    
    Now say that with a sweet n innocent face! ;-)
    
    Jackie

    
    
    it was hard enough to say it with a straight face!! :))))

    There is Newicks just north of Merrimack, but I would rather go to that
    new place just south of Nashua, across from Pheasant Lane. It has an
    Australian style name and theme and terrific seafood as well as classic
    beef. It also serves alcohol for those of your clients who might want a
    cocktail with supper. It's called The Outback and is in a mall just
    across from Pheasant Lane in Tynesboro. The food and the service are
    top rate.
    
    Serenity
    
    I would have suggested the Lobster Boat, but it is not very fancy, the
    food is great though.
    
    
    

    RE: .470
    
    oooo.. the lobster boat... you've got me drooling!!  I LOVE their
    fisherman's platter!!
    
    H

    Im melting!!! Im melting!!!!

  In the situation with these clients, I would choose one of the places in 
Merrimack and Nashua, to save the hassle of a long drive. However, having 
grown up on the NH coast, it just doesn't seem right to eat lobsters when you 
are not within sight of the ocean.

>    We're looking at the possibility of using the Internet as a means of
>    recruitment (when we turn that corner!) and information site to run 

  The Network Products Business Unit (NPBU) has a Web page at 
http://npbwww.hpn.lkg.dec.com that includes job postings. This is a good
example of how this can be done. Off-hand I don't know if this Web page is
reachable from outside Digital.

    Deb, do you know what I do when the ice cream is melting?
    
    Well, that is one solution, if you can stand the increased heat load.
    
    
    Dave

    re: .461
    
    Lola,
    
    I thought the same thing...but they requested whole lobsters...not
    my choice!
    
    Shi

    re: .470
    
    Serenity,
    
    I agree, The Outback is great.  Been there...both out there as well as
    out here...but these clients...who I spend at least 40 hours a week
    with...will ring my neck if I don't get them to a place that serves the
    true messy whole lobsters...and they are spending enough money with us
    that I figure it is the least we can do! :)
    
    Shi

    Okay...there is some restaurant that I recall on the Daniel Webster
    Highway down the street from the Mall that I believed served
    seafood...anyone know the name of it?
    
    Also...where is the Lobster Boat?
    
    Has anyone ever eaten at the Country Gourmet?  Are they any good?
    
    Shilah

    Shilah, if they're important customers, I don't think you want to go to
    the lobster boat.  Although their food is great, the atmosphere isn't
    what you want.  It's kind of like a diner and they use paper plates and
    plastic silverware.
    
    But oh, is their food good!
    
    Holly
    

    I have a two-fold question for my ::FRIENDS...
    
    1)  Does anyone know of a software that you can use to make a really nice
    looking document, but also have it compatable with the web?  Something
    that I won't have to convert after I print the document?
    
    2)  Does anyone know if DIgital still has a group that will do some
    research on this type of thing?  There used to be a part of SSB that
    you could call and they'd do the research for you.  Does anyone know if
    it still exists??
    
    Thanks.
    
    Holly
    

    
    
    	I'm not aware of any software that hacks html code for you.
    Everyone does it by hand still.....
    
    
    chico

    how would you know?
    
    
    hhhhhhhmmmm.......?

    
    
    I'm sure I don't know what you're implying! :)
    
    Chris
    :)

    Im sure you dont either!!!

    I'm sure you do..

    weyheyyyyyy!

    Chris: As we're unsure of what YOU'RE implyin' either, PAL!!! :-)))
    
    STRETCH

    who said it was on his palms???
    
    
    Chris - give up the ghost babe!

    ha!ha!ha!ha!

    Please... knock it off!  These were too close for comfort!
    
    Holly
    

    och Holly, its only a bit of fun......:-(())))))))

    Set up for
    

    I reckon it was Chris on numerous occasions there that got set-hidden!!
    
    tut!tut!
    
    Christopher! - you're supposed to set an example for us younger ones!!
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    You were doing pretty good until you got set-hidden!  :-)

    
    
    actually, the majority weren't mine.
    
    fallen_angel

    
    
    
    Gawd... I go to do a P1 and when I come back I've missed
    everything.....
    
    
    
    
    Shell :-(

    Deb.. yes, it's a bit of fun.. and normally I love this type of
    bantering... however, it's MY hide that will get cut if I leave things
    in here.
    
    Holly
    

    I was only defendin' my HONOR, your Honor!
    
    STRETCH
    
    (Sowwy! I hadda respond - it's a GUY-thing, ya'know...)

    HELP!!!: I'm being held captive by an alien race in Cyberspace who want
    to examine my brain and escape into reality!!!
    
    (Won't they be surprized to discover: 1) I'm brainless; and, 2) I live
    in my own "Alternate Reality"! :-)))
    
    STRETCH

    
    Help PLEASE!
    
    I was recently given a disk with some distribution list information on
    it.    Only trouble is I don't know what software was used to create
    the files.    
    
    Does anybody know what applications (Believe they are PC based) create
    files with the extensions   .WDB  and .WPS?
    
    Thanks!
    
    /jen

    
    
    Isn't wps word perfect? wps plus.
    
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    I was wondering if WPS plus but didn't know if that was still a
    currently used PC software package....eck gads!
    
    

    
    
    
    well I think DEC uses that in All in one as the word processing
    product. Could be wrong but it used to be.
    
    Chris
    :)

Never heard of WPS plus (or WordPerfect plus) - before my time I guess...

I started on WP5 - WordPerfect 5.0...

I'd guess that the .WDB file is a database file produced by a package in
the same family of products...  Maybe some kind of integrated suite was
used...


H  :o)

    For those who're wondering, the .W** file extensions are from MS WORKS.
    .WDB appears to be a database file and .WPS seems to be either a
    postscript of text file...
    
    STRETCH

    >> postscript of text file...
    
   "of" = or

    I know that at one point there was a page on VTX that showed the
    discounts available to Digital employees.  Like Belmont springs, etc. 
    However, when I need it, I can't find it!!  Can someone point me to it?
    
    Holly
    

    
    
    	Hey, I remember that! I just don't remember how to get there...:)
    
    

    
    Ok....here's the scoop.  I'm looking at maybe buying a condo and I was
    wondering if anybody has ever lived or known anybody that has lived at
    Assabet Village in Hudson?
    
    Thanks!
    
    /jen
    

/jen,

No, but did you try the MA conference also?  Since most of the people noting in 
here are now from across the pond, you may have a better response there!

Good luck on the purchase if you decide to go ahead with it!

Lola

    
    Hi,
    
    I'm looking for recommendations for a FABULOUS seafood restaurant in
    Boston.
    
    Anybody have any suggestions?
    
    /jen
    

    
    Never been to Boston sorry /jen, but I'd love to go 8-)))))))

    
    /jen,
    
      Either No Name Diner or Jimbo's, both down on the pier.
    
    
    Rich
    

    
    Thanks Rich,
    
    Now for dessert in the North End.  Have you heard of a Michael's
    Pastries?  Or can you recommend someplace else?
    
    /jen

    
    
    /jen,
    
      Mike's Pastries is either on Salem or Hanover St in the North End,
    same street as the European. It's on the left hand side of the street.  
    
      If your feeling a little upscale you could always go to the Hyatt 
    Regency in Cambridge and have dessert in their revolving restaurant. 
    
    
    Rich