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Conference vaxcat::friends

Title:Welcome to Friends!
Moderator:POWDML::VENTURA
Created:Mon Mar 09 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:437
Total number of notes:35174

347.0. ">?<" by KAOFS::C_PLANT (It had to be you...) Wed Jun 07 1995 22:59

    
    
    
    what flies by night, is indefinite, and is full of stars?
    
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347.1KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Wed Jun 07 1995 22:598
    
    
    
    
    
    hint 1:  the number 16 figures prominently as a clue to the puzzle
    
    
347.2Mr. Data says: Its a Romulan WarbirdLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu Jun 08 1995 01:3916
    a cloaked Romulan warbird.
    
    It "flies by night"   (it is always nightlike in outer space)
    It is "indefinite"    (it only can be traced by some particle residue)
    It is "full of stars" (because it is cloaked, it is invisible and the
                           space it occupies appears to be just normal
                           void with the stars in it.)
    
    ;) ;) ;)
    
    For StarTrek ignorants: the Romulans developed a technique to cloak
    (make invisible) their starships. A warbird is a class of Romulan
    battle cruisers.
    
    ;)
    Martina-Data, Lieutenant Commander and Science Officer
347.3KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu Jun 08 1995 02:3513
    
    
    A good answer my androidian friend..BUT...wrong answer!!!
    
    
    
    
    hint 2:   the number 2 also features prominantly ..in fact it is of
              great significance!!!
    
    
    Chris
    :)
347.4Mr. Data says: It is love.LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaThu Jun 08 1995 03:1424
    Love?
    
    Yes, it could be love.
    
    Analysis:
    
       Love "flies by night"     The night with the enchanting silvery light
                                 of the moon's caring beams is the perfect
                                 time for love to dwell.
       Love is "indefinite"      There are no regulations for love, it hits
                                 you and you're in it. "In love".
       Love is "full of stars"   It is full of promising sparkling dreams
                                 that you can try to catch. Like you're
                                 never be able to count the stars in the
                                 sky, they are so many. 
    
    And it is an emotion that I as an android cannot understand. 
    I can talk about it and describe its appropriate associations, but
    I am not capable of feeling it myself.
    It permanently features the number 2. And the number 16 defines the
    poetry topic. Love is poetic. Love is.... alive. ;)
    
    Martina-Data, Lieutenant Commander, First Officer
    
347.5KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu Jun 08 1995 04:037
    
    
    
    
    very good reasoning Mr Data...BUT wrong!!
    
    hint 3:   sugar and spice and everything nice!
347.6NETCAD::WOODFORDUSER ERROR::ReplaceUser/PressAnyKeyToCont.Thu Jun 08 1995 17:449
    
    
    
    Girls!!!  :*)
    
    
    
    Terrie
    
347.7KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Thu Jun 08 1995 18:3110
    
    
    
    
    re -1
    
    Nope...not girls either..
    
    
    hint 4:  a little bird watches over...
347.8CHEFS::WARRENJanother day in paradiseFri Jun 09 1995 02:443
    I thought it was eyes, but I was wrong on that score too!
    
    Jackie
347.9KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Fri Jun 09 1995 06:0714
    
    
    
    O.K here is a conglomoration of hints:
    
    1) flies by night, is indefinite and is full of stars
    2) number 16 figures prominantly as a clue to puzzle
    3) number 2 also figures prominantly ..in fact it is of great
    significance
    4) sugar and spice and everything nice...
    5) a little bird watches over
    
    
    hint 6: a first initial and a last name might help solve this riddle
347.10NETCAD::WOODFORDUSER ERROR::ReplaceUser/PressAnyKeyToCont.Fri Jun 09 1995 17:3010
    
    
    Two lovers passing in the night?
    
    
    
    
    :*)
    Terrie
    
347.11Mr. Data says: It is the Enterprise !!!!!LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri Jun 09 1995 18:3130
347.12KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Fri Jun 09 1995 21:4615
    
    Nope Martina...not the enterprise! :))
    
    Here are the hints again:
    
    1) flies by night, is indefinite and is full of stars
    2) number 16 figures prominantly as a clue to puzzle
    3) number 2 also figures prominantly ..in fact it is of great
    significance
    4) sugar and spice and everything nice...
    5) a little bird watches over
    6) a first initial and a last name might help solve this riddle
    
    hint 7:  think duality
    
347.13Restart association processLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri Jun 09 1995 22:2015
    Hint 7 also is applicable on the Enterprise:
    
    we have a dual-universe set. 
    See episode "Mirror Mirror" for the Original series and the book
    "Dark Mirror" for The Next Generation. ;)))))
    
    But, ok, it is not my favourite starship.
    
    Now I need to reconfigure my conclusive thought patterns to achieve
    a dual diversive angle of view.....
    
    Accessing.... accessing.....
    
    Mr. Data is busily thinking
    ;) 
347.14Mr. Data says: It could be.....LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri Jun 09 1995 22:2827
    Perhaps,,,,,
    
    
    1) flies by night, is indefinite and is full of stars.....
       Let's see. A creature of the night flies by night. A bat for
       example. Batman flies by night, he is definitely indefinite and the
       stars are reflected by his nice coat. ;)
    
    2) Number 16? I don't know much about Batman, but I think I read about
       16 comic magazines which I borrowed from the big brother of my girl-
       friend when I was a little one.
    
    3) Number 2??? Yeah: Batman and Robin. ;)
    
    4) You can put sugar and spicy cinammon on the wipped cream of your
       icecream when watching BatMan. ;)
    
    5) A little bird? No, it is a little bat!!!
    
    6) First initial and last name? Ooh, I don't remember Batman's real
       identity. The millioneer.... what was his name???
    
    7) Duality: yeah!!!! Batman has 2 wings.
    
    ;)))))   QED
    Martina
    
347.15An android with a human heartLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri Jun 09 1995 22:4726
    Yes, this is it.
    
    There is a solution, but it is only valid for .... me.
    
    1) It flies by night. 
           It only can fly by night. It makes me fly. And it only happens
           by night, or at least the evening and night ones are the only
           ones I could attend so far.
       It is indefinite.
           I don't know the outcome. I would love to define it, but I can't
           cannot even influence it to the positive side. This is the only
           thing which I canNOT think positive.
       Full of stars.
           Yes. Above me at a certain place were the stars. And I was right
           sitting in the middle of them.
    
    2) 16. Yes, that is about its range.
    3) 2. How I wish I could be one of the 2.
    4) Oh yes. ;)))))
    5) "I, I wish I could fly. If I could fly I come fly to you."
    6) I won't unveil.
    7) Unfortunately. But this is the case and I cannot influence its
       fiberial structures.
    
    :(
    Mr. Data realizes his limits
347.16KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Fri Jun 09 1995 22:5412
    
    
    
    re -2
    
    you don't know just how close you are with that Batman guess!
    
    but be more precise...and you are allocating clues which refer to other
    elements!!! You are almost bang on!!
    
    Chris
    :)
347.17I don't even dare to sign this one... ;)LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri Jun 09 1995 23:086
    I don't know the characters in the Batman world. I only know
    Batman himself (Bruce Wayne, thanks Jen! ;) ) and Robin.
    And there is the Cat Woman and the Penguine. And that's all I know.
    
    ;(
    Unfortunately no Batman buff
347.18Sugar and spice????? Tastes niceLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri Jun 09 1995 23:155
    And this "sugar and spice and everything nice" thing also baffles me.
    I think it is part of a nursery rhyme about little girls. 
    But that's about already my whole knowledge.
    
    Martina_the_alien_flap_flap
347.19How can I????? ;(LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaFri Jun 09 1995 23:195
    How can I be more precise when I lack the precise knowledge?????
    
    
    :((((((
    Martina feels left outside in this strange US world
347.20KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Fri Jun 09 1995 23:1942
    Since Martina guessed the main body..here is the solution:
    
    Batman Forever
    
    Now to explain the clues:
    
    first the title of the conference itself is a hint >?< this is the
    sign of the Riddler! :))
    
    Here are the hints again:
    
    1) flies by night, is indefinite and is full of stars
          a bat,           forever,          the actors in the new movie
    
    2) number 16 figures prominantly as a clue to puzzle
       - the international release date is June 16th
    
    3) number 2 also figures prominantly ..in fact it is of great
    significance
       - Harvey Dent aka Two Face, the dynamic duo, split personalities,
       good/bad, riddler/Edward Nygma
    
    4) sugar and spice and everything nice...
       Two Face's women, one for each half of his personality
    - one named Sugar, one named Spice
    
    5) a little bird watches over
       - Robin
    
    6) a first initial and a last name might help solve this riddle
       E from Edward and the last name Nygma = Enygma which=riddle
    
    hint 7:  think duality
       Bruce Wayne/Batman, Harvey Dent/Two Face, Edward Nygma/Riddler
       Dick Grayson/Robin, Batman/Robin
    
    
    o.k someone else's turn to put a riddle in here! :)))
    
    Chris
    :)
347.21LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaSat Jun 10 1995 00:0016
    Ahhhh.
    
    But....
       - my dictionary says: indefinite means not yet determined
                             infinite means forever
    
       - I don't know the riddler, nor his sign. Nor do I know any of
         the other persons you mentioned.
    
       - I looked the word Robin up: really, it also specifies a bird.
         No chance with double meanings when I don't have the vocabulary.
         Sorry.
    
    And: Thanks for the release date. ;) June 16th now marks my calendar.
    ;)
    Martina-Data alien without any riddle solving chances
347.22KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Sat Jun 10 1995 02:137
    
    
    - well forever is an indefinite amount of time!
    
    - riddle= question=puzzle and therefore his sign is the question mark.
    
    - a robin is a little bird.
347.23Ok....LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaSat Jun 10 1995 02:286
    Next riddle:
    
      Hint 1:  Luxurious dreams full of richness and rejoicement
    
    ;)
    Martina
347.24KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Sat Jun 10 1995 02:344
    
    
    YOu are dreaming of a vacation..on some tropical island and having some
    young stud smoothing oil over your tanned body! :)))
347.25Mr. Data says: No Captain Sir. ;)LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaSat Jun 10 1995 02:4113
    Good guess, but..... you are incorrect, Sir. ;)))))
    
    1) Luxurious dreams full of richness and rejoicement.
    
    Here comes another hint:
    
    2) I am so frightened!!!
    
    ;)
    Have a good weekend everyone
    Lieutenant Commander Martina Spock-Data smiles from one pointed ear to
    the other.
    ;))))))))))))
347.26KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Sat Jun 10 1995 02:437
    
    
    
    my move to the UK?
    
    Chris
    :)
347.27b-day snarfKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Sat Jun 10 1995 02:433
    
    
    snarf!!
347.28Mr. Data says: It is applicable, but....LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaSat Jun 10 1995 02:5114
    Hello Chris!
    
       nice one. ;)
       But.....
    
    wrong again. ;)))))))))
    
    1) Luxurious dreams full of richness and rejoicement
    2) I am so frightened!!!
    
    And 3) .... that I get the chills :(
    
    ;)
    The Alien flies home now ----- flap flap -------- flap flap ------ ...
347.29KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Sat Jun 10 1995 02:544
    
    
    
    a poem that you are working on or have written!
347.30age snarfKAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Sat Jun 10 1995 02:553
    
    
    snarf!
347.31Mr. Data says: Not entirely correct, SirLJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaSun Jun 11 1995 09:2418
    No Sir! ;)))))
    
    No poem of mine. ;)))))
    
    You are again WRONG my dear Lord and Captain, Sir. 
    I haven't made a poem about that one yet.
    
    1) Luxurious dreams full of richness and rejoicement.
    2) I am so frightened!!!!! ...
    3) ... that I get the chills.
    
    and the new hint is:
    4) I don't care for its look, but I enjoy its corresponding action.
    
    ;)
    Lieutenant Commander Martina-Data likes riddles
    ;)))
    
347.32KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Sun Jun 11 1995 18:1419
    
	A Kimball's special! :)))
    
    1) Luxurious dreams full of richness and rejoicement.
    - everyone dreams of mountains of ice-cream!
    
    2) I am so frightened!!!!! ...
    - so much ice cream that it is scary!
    
    3) ... that I get the chills.
    -cold causes chills.
    
    and the new hint is:
    4) I don't care for its look, but I enjoy its corresponding action.
    -it is messy looking but goes down oh so nice!!!

    
    Chris
    :)
347.33where are my ruby red slippers?AKOMI2::OROURKEheaven help the heartMon Jun 12 1995 00:2125
    Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz?
    
    
    1) Luxurious dreams full of richness and rejoicement.
    
    Dorothy dreams of going over the Rainbow and does.
        
    2) I am so frightened!!!!! ...
 
    Dorothy spends most of the movie being frightened of something...the
    witch the flying monkeys, the tin man, the lion, the trees that throw
    their fruit, the wizard...
        
    3) ... that I get the chills.
    
    Dorothy gets the chills and wakes up when the good witch makes it snow
    on her in the Poppy field.    
   
    4) I don't care for its look, but I enjoy its corresponding action.
    
    The Balloon to fly home.
    
    /jen
    
    
347.34Correct or not correct???LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaMon Jun 12 1995 18:1421
    Chris, dear Captain and dark Lord,
    
    .....
    
    
    You got it!!!! ;)))
    
    1) Luxurious dreams full of richness and rejoicement:
       Icecream got it all!
    2) I am so frightened....
       that "I scream"!!!!  (pun ;) )
    3) ... that I get the chills.
       icecream is supposed to be a bit chilly.
    4) I don't care for its looks but I enjoy its corresponding action.
       Icecream normally looks like vomit, but I enjoy eating it. 
    
    ;)))))
    Good job Chris.
    
    Martina_Riddler
    ;)
347.35KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Mon Jun 12 1995 18:3519
    
    
    
    :)))))
    
    
    i guess that makes it my turn to come up with the next riddle!! :)))
    
    
    riddle me this, riddle me that....who's afraid of the bat? :)))
    
    
    o.k here it is:
    
    1) sometimes needs motivation to keep on working...but has been known
       to work diligently until exhausted.
    
    Chris
    :)
347.36Right?ZENDIA::TANNERTo ERase is human.Mon Jun 12 1995 18:362
    
    CHICO!
347.37KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Mon Jun 12 1995 18:4212
    
    
    <------- hahahahahha
    
    Nope not Chico!!!
    
    
    2) you might say that the older ones have relaxation as their main
    motivating force!
    
    Chris
    :)
347.38It could be...LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaTue Jun 13 1995 02:5418
    I hope this new riddle is NOT about the Batman universe,,,,
    or I have to give up in advance. ;)
    
    Let me see.....
    
    It could be the peculiar species of....
    
    Software Engineers!
    
    1) it takes a bit of convincing efforts to get the Software Engineer
       interested in your problem, but as soon you get her/him going, you
       can rely on a diligent worker
    
    2) When getting older the Software Engineer starts counting down the
       years until her/his retirement.
    
    ;)
    Martina-Data_knows_what_she's_talking_about...
347.39KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Tue Jun 13 1995 05:4017
    

    
    Nope this one has nothing to do with Batman! :)))	
    
    1) sometimes needs motivation to keep on working...but has been known
       to work diligently until exhausted.
    

    2) you might say the older ones have relaxing as their motivating 
       force!
    
    hint 3) some need a hand to do their work.
    
    
    Chris
    :)
347.40How about my guess in .38???? LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaTue Jun 13 1995 07:1311
    You did not say how about my "guess". ;)
    Besides: No 3 is also applicable. Some of us use the keyboard and hate
             mice. ;)))))
    
    Next guess:  Ooooopsssssss....... this will get set hidden. ;)))))
    I just say "females in horizontal business" ("pavement doves")
    And I can't say why without getting set hidden either....
    so.... use your phantasy!
    
    ;)))))
    Martina
347.41Keilriemen?LJSRV1::LAMBRECHTThe Spirit of BavariaTue Jun 13 1995 07:1814
    Another one:   German "Keilriemen"
    It is a belt in the car's engine which drives the "light machine".
    (No dictionary here in the lab.)
    
    1) At first they need "convincing" (adjustment) but then they run until
       worn out
    
    2) In time the belt widens a little "relaxation"
    
    3) Then it "needs a hand" to adjust it again.
    
    ;?
    Martina
     
347.42KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Tue Jun 13 1995 17:4118
    

	Nope. nope! :))    
    
    1) sometimes needs motivation to keep on working...but has been known
       to work diligently until exhausted.
    

    2) you might say the older ones have relaxing as their motivating 
       force!
    
    3) some need a hand to do their work.
    
    
    hint 4) : some are faceless...yet stand out in a crowd!
    
    Chris
    :)
347.43KAOFS::C_PLANTIt had to be you...Fri Jun 16 1995 08:1019
    
    
    
    1) sometimes needs motivation to keep on working...but has been known
       to work diligently until exhausted.
    

    2) you might say the older ones have relaxing as their motivating 
       force!
    
    3) some need a hand to do their work.
    
    
    4) : some are faceless...yet stand out in a crowd!
    
    HINT 5)  identical twins in different areas of the world would look
             different somehow! 
    Chris
    :)
347.44solutionKERNEL::PLANTCThu Jun 29 1995 17:1037
    
    
    Allright..since no-one got it..the answer is:
    
    	a watch or time-piece or clock
    
    
    
    
    1) sometimes needs motivation to keep on working...but has been known
       to work diligently until exhausted.
    
       - winding up
    
    2) you might say the older ones have relaxing as their motivating 
       force!
      
       - work until the springs wind down and they are relaxed.
    
    3) some need a hand to do their work.
    
       - hands of a clock
    
    4) : some are faceless...yet stand out in a crowd!
    
       - digital time pieces
    
    HINT 5)  identical twins in different areas of the world would look
             different somehow! 
     
       - time would be different in different parts of the world at any
         given moment
    
    - o.k someone else's turn to think up a riddle.
    
    Chris
    :)