Conference vaxcat::friends

    RHI  that they changed their minds, i'll be hanging here a while
    longer.
    
    /gina

    
    RHI: I'm thrilled too.. at /ginas' news... *8) *HUGS*
    
    Ravi.
    *8)

    
    RHI: That I get the feeling that keeping /gina longer is not what you
    want /gina, right? I can't imagine you wanting to do much under these
    circumstances! However, I am glad you'll be around longer! 
    How long do they plan to keep you here? Me! I'll be here doing nothing
    till I get my visa! sjeez, doesn't anyone have something to do for me? 
    Maybe I should do some screaming myself????? nahhhh! I wouldn't want 
    to wake up all those having a day off today! ;-)))))))))
    Hang in there /gina! 
    
    m. ;-)
    
    
     

    
    Yesterday, here in Nijmegen (JGO) the announcement was made that all
    temps have to leave this week. Some permanent employees here will be 
    asked to take over the most essential duties that need to be done. 
    It's beginning here! The next step is a reorganisation of JGO which 
    will most likely result in more lay-offs!!!!! 
    
    m. ;-)
     

    its happened here at SQF..........
    
    bye bye some temps and some permanent employees !!!
    
     Sid The SEXist

    
    	Got some mail today (and yesterday too)..... it is rumored AND
    	CNN has reported that B.P. resigned at yesterday's board meeting!!!
    	Any one else hear this???  Any one care?!
    
    	>M<

    Forget it.
    In HUMANE::DIGITAL you'll find a  memo from BP to his direct reports
    that the BOD approves his actions.
    
    Charles

    Only nobody knows *what* those actions are!
    
    /Bob

VNS COMPUTER NEWS:                            [Tracy Talcott, VNS Computer Desk]
==================                            [Littleton, MA, USA              ]

 Digital - Sells part of its disk-drive business
	{The Boston Globe, 20-Jul-94, p. 41}
   [Excerpts - TT]
   Digital employs about 5,000 workers in the businesses it is selling to
 Quantum.  None will be laid off, Digital said yesterday.  Of the total, 3,500
 are permanent and will be offered positions with Quantum.  The remaining 1,500
 are temporary workers and will continue in that capacity.  "The Digital people
 and their capabilities are the key and most important asset," said William
 Miller, Quantum's chairman.  "We have no intention of packing up the facility
 [in Shrewsbury] and moving it to California," he said.  Digital's VP of the
 components division, Charles Christ, said Digital retained the profitable part
 of its disk-drive business while selling the loss-making portion of the unit
 to Quantum.  "What's left is the storage subsystems and video server business,
 and these are profitable," Christ said.  The two product areas cover half of
 the total value of the former $1.5 billion storage business unit, or $750
 million for fiscal 1994, ended June 30.  Christ said he expects revenue from
 subsystems and video servers to grow 35-45% in its fiscal 1995.

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    	hmmm... Just the opposite of what we've heard:  the HEADS business
    	(which is my org being sold) is profit making and the storage
    	sub-systems was non-profit!!! hmmmm... VERRRRRRy interesting indeed!
    
    	Now WHY would one company buy from another company the portion of
    	that company which is not making a profit!?  AH, yes... it's supposta
    	make sense.... to someone!
    
    	Maybe I should start packing my house for the move, huh? hehehehe
    	When they say they're NOT, they usually do (OH, we're only changing
    	the name so we can sell better, has NOTHING to do with being sold!)
    	
    	>M<

Chin up!

One company would buy a non-profitable portion of another to aquire technology
quicker than independently developing it (they want the HEADS technology) and
just because one company can't make a profit at something doesn't mean that the
other organization can't better exploit it.

I thought it was good hearing that everyone will have the option of choosing
their job destiny

    
    	I'll know more this afternoon.  We have a pow-wow with Bill Miller
    	(CEO of QUANTUM) and Charlie Christ (VP Storage sub-systems) and 
    	maybe we'll know a "little" more...  The benefit package looks pretty
    	good too...
    
    	I'm looking at it as a good move.... a move to a NEW company
    	without having to interview or even update my resume OR move my
    	office!! hehehe  What more could a gal ask?!
    
    	>M<

    
    	Is that something like Up close and personal? hehehe
    
    	Well, one-up-Dave... I'd LOVE to move to the Springs... been
    	thinking about it for a while now... we'll see what lies ahead!
    
    	hmmmmm... you ARE making the possiblity more tempting!!! hehehe
    
    	>M<

	get a room you two...jeesh....:*)


chico

    Make it three rooms out here in the Spring and I will join you!!!
    
    Mack
    

  What's this I hear about Quantum not being on the Internet? 

    
    	RHI:  That QUANTUM doesn't have computer equipment (as updated as
    		our!?!?!?!?!) let alone internet.  I hear that they prefer
    		face-to-face contact if you have questions/problems other
    		than E-mailing questions etc.  All fine and well if you
    		work at the same site.... our problem now is that the
    		company now has 5 different sites:  New England (SHR),
    		CXO, Malasia, Indonesia(?) and California.... HEY, if I
    		have a question for a person in California, I'll be MORE
    		than happy to have 'em send me out there!!!  YA, *MY* luck
    		they'd bring THAT person out HERE!!! hehehe
    
    		I hear that we're supposta be able to keep our internal
    		mailing within SHR but not sure about the outside world...
    
    		OMI!!!! I'm *ALREADY* having withdrawal symptoms!!!!
    
    	>M<

	Call WORLD at 617-739-9753 and get on the internet now! It's only like
$10 a month.....



	chico

    
    	Thanks!!!  Got the number and I'll look into it.... 
    
    	Can't go without you guys.... whatever will I DO????
    
    	>M<

Yeah, Software Tool and Die runs world.std.com 

I'm on the $5/month plan since I mostly use it for mail. They have several plans
depending on usage and disk requirements. You dial in as "new" and it creates
the account and then you call them to have it activated and billing determined.
I've got the network blurb that I can forward if anyone is interested. They have
a few big Unix systems. You could even set up a alt.??.friends newsgroup which
would have the same "banter" feel as the notesfile.

CM

    
    
    	CM... forward me any info ya got!!!! I think I can do $5/month....
    	HECK... the gurl in the next office..when she wants to get my
    	attention, she throws pennies over the wall... hehehehe....I always
    	come back from somewhere to find about 5 cents a day on the floor,
    	on my chair...IN my coffee cup... hahahah... and she wonders why
    	I don't always answer her!!! hehehehe  ;^)
    
    	>M<

	Yeah, it's defintely worth it. Wonder if I can use the "dumb" terminal I
got at home to dial into World? I should be able too....



	chico

    
    	YUP, as long as you have a modem connected, can-do!!!
    
    	>M<

	I've never used Un*x before.....anything special I should know about the
OS before attacking it....?


chico

    
    	basically forget EVERYTHING you know about VMS!!!!
    
    	>M<

	
	ahhh....one o' dem. I suppose if I can run CPM on my Vt-180, then I can
run Un*x....



chico

    RE :.30
    
    Unfortunatly M is correct.  One problem many incur is that UNIX is case
    sensitive ie r and R mean 2 totally different things :^(  What a mess.
    
    Good Luck!
    Jt

Any two letters is a valid command 8^)

Check the bookstore for a reference guide. Learn the 10 basic commands and
how to use man (unix help facility) and you're on your way!

unix			VMS
cd - Change Directory - set default
mv - move file - 	rename
cp - copy
ls - list <somethingorother> - directory
ps - processor status - show system
rm - remove - 		delete
man - manual -		help
^z - suspend execution - detach
^d - terminal cur. proc - logout
mkdir - make directory - create/dir

CM

    Hey just wait until you see the difference between Ultrix & OSF/1.
    
     Then you have the differences between OSF/1 V1.3 & V2.0 & V3.0... 
    
    	e.g. V1.3 uses small letters for some paths.. but in V2.0 it uses
    	     capital for the same paths... 
    
    		....and of course OSF/1 is case sensitive! :->
                    
    Unix is just so much fun... NOT! :->
    
    Rick.

The joys of figuring out which slash to use and what it might mean in the
current context. Yup, supporting a product in three OS's is tons-o-fun

    
    Hey don't forget a basic difference....
    
    
    	No version numbers !!  so once gone is gone....... *8))))))
    
    Ravi.
    *8)

	No wonder the software guru's always spell unix as Un*x....:*)



	chico

re .22  >That QUANTUM doesn't have computer equipment (as updated as
        >our!?!?!?!?!) let alone internet.


I just spoke with a friend up at CXO who is a part of the Quantum
buy.  He already knows his internet address that he will have at
Quantum.   Something along the lines of 


	username.qntm.com


Maybe Quantum *is* on the internet???



Hamp


Wait!   I think I know how to find out for sure....

    
    	HAMP!!!!!!!!!!

;->


Well, I couldn't find out for sure...

    
    	RHI:  That's it's a possibility that QUANTUM people will be off
    	the net within the month!!!  ARRRGGGHHH!!  <sniff>
    
    	>M<

	RHI:

	you can get on the internet through WORLD for $5 a month! Dial 'em up at
(617)739-9753....


	chico

    Have you done it yet Chico?  (and have you called too?)
    
    	heheheheheheehahahahaha <thud>  DAM* chair
    
    	;^)
    
    	>M<

	no I haven't called....but I have done it....


;*)

    
    	8^*

  I don't think Quantum can stay off the Internet for long. For one thing,
Digital has a setup called Electronic Data Interchange (EDI) with its suppliers.
Suppliers are strongly encouraged to hook up to this network so that some busi-
ness can be transacted by Email. When I was in the IC test group, many of our
IC suppliers were on EDI. The way it works is you send mail using the 
XXXX::YYYY format and the system adds all the weird characters you need for the
internet. Since Quantum will be a major Digital supplier after Oct. 1, I can't
see how the could NOT be on the internet.
  Whether they will allow "non-business" messages to be sent over their inter-
net link is another story.

    
    RHI: that there was so much snoring going on in Pepperell Monday night
    that sleeping arrangements had to be altered!  :^)
    
    /jen
    

    
    RHI:  That the bunch of beautiful red long-stemmed roses in my office
    is stirring up quite a controversy!
    
    /jen
    

    Oh yes... who are they from then... spill the beans.. :->
    
    Rick.

    
    RHI that Jerry Garcia is dead.  I haven't heard anything official
    though...said 'natural causes'.
    
    /jen

    
    
    It is true.
    
    Supposedly, he died of 'natural causes'.  However, he was at
    a drug rehab center when he died.
    
    
    Sad day..... :(
    
    
    Terrie
    

    
    
    who is Jerry Garcia???
    
    Chris
    :)

    
    RE: -1
    
    Guitarist for Greatful Dead.  US band with cult like status...been
    around since the 60's...surely you've heard of them?
    
    /j
    

    
    
    
    I've heard of them...just didn't know the individual band members.
    
    Chris
    :)

    The Greatful Dead was even known in Germany. I will never forget, they
    had a great concert in the Gruga hall in Essen/Germany, I watched the
    show on tv. That was way back in 1983. I don't like Rock, but they
    did a great performance. 
    
    ;)
    Martina-Data

  I never realized just how large and diverse a present-day following the Dead
had until the news came on yesterday. Even several Congressmen eulogized him.
  Jerry Garcia was the driving force of the Dead; I don't know if they can go
on without him.

    Sheep are everywhere...
    

    not true!
    
    Deb

    Weel ma wee las fae Aberdoonian country its a fact that sheep make good
    pets and help yea sleep, mind you you have to work on em..
    Marti

    yea, you having to do more work than the flamin' sheep!
    
    Deb

    I know the wool gets in yer teeth an all that, its nice and warm mmmmm
    
    
    
    Marti

    you're gross!!

    I know, I have 144 of em

    That there is redunancies here at Ayr for permament people, 86
    temp being laid off on the 17th June (Ayr plant)
    
    Is this true???
    
    Marti

    Rumour has it that Paula won the lottery at the weekend........
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    things to do:   Get her Bank Account number!

RHI: That alot of people in this file are in love!

RHI: That I won't get away with this!

RHI:That I'm going to try!!

RHI: That I want a *69!  SNARF!!!

    
    RHI:  That you haven't got away with it, and the entire notes community
    is after you right now.......
    
    
    
    
    I.

Come and get me!!!

Lola

    ha!ha!ha!
    
    
    Lola - you're cheeky!!
    
    
    *hugs*

    
    Careful Lol,  I have contacts......
    
    
    
    I.

>    Careful Lol,  I have contacts......
 
I used to I., but just wear glasses now.

:-)

    
    Do you know, I've never heard that joke before........<yawn>
    
    
    
    no, really.

Dave,

It wouldn't be a *69 if I didn't...would it??!!

Lola    
    
    
    

    Lola, you just *SNARF'ed* a 77...
    
    That is *69 with 8 more.
    
    
    Dave

    Can I snarf this 79 ?

    
    
    NO!
    
    
    
    
    
    
    	ohhh if you must...go on then! :)))

    
    Don't be a wuss, be firm!
    
    
    NO! NO! NO!
    
    
    I.