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Conference krakar::f1

Title:F1
Notice:All about F1
Moderator:WOTVAX::GILLILANDP
Created:Wed Dec 14 1994
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:159
Total number of notes:8085

148.0. "PGP Prost Grand Prix" by LEMAN::CHEVAUX (Patrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150) Mon Feb 17 1997 19:08

    A new Grand Prix team: Prost Grand Prix (PGP).
    
    Org Chart currently undisclosed, although the managing director is
    Prost's old time friend, supporter and team manager Hugues de Chaunac.
    
    Alain Prost will not make any immediate changes to the current Ligier
    organisation based in Magny-Cours.
    
    In my opinion Alain Prost made a mistake in making a joint announcement
    
    - creation of Prost Grand Prix (taking over Ligier)
    - agreement with Peugeot to supply engines for 3 years starting in 1998
    
    This has resulted in Honda being very upset. OK, everyone knows that
    Honda will supply Benetton next year, but no public announcement was
    made by Briatore. Prost obviously made a big mistake. He could have
    delayed.
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148.1Why should he care?IRNBRU::61549::SpikeDo you munch stump?Tue Feb 18 1997 12:5612
  >    This has resulted in Honda being very upset. OK, everyone knows that
>    Honda will supply Benetton next year, but no public announcement was
>    made by Briatore. Prost obviously made a big mistake. He could have
>    delayed.

  Patrick,

  Why should Prost worry about how Honda or Briatore feel? Will his team
  still have ties to Briatore or will he totally separate? Am I missing
  something here?

  Rgds, Steve
148.2lack of tactLEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Tue Feb 18 1997 20:2822
    Prost owns 100% of Ligier which he bought from Flavio Briatore, Guy
    Ligier and a few investment companies. He has nothing to worry.
    
    The problem is with Honda. Honda have been very happy to see Olivier
    Panis win Monaco last year. They have started a whole program to
    develop their V10. Olivier Panis has publicly declared that the engines
    he has tested this winter were MUCH MUCH better than everything he was
    used to. Honda want to win races this year - originally with Ligier -
    but now with Prost Grand Prix.
    
    And suddenly, Prost makes a big announcement about 1998 and how the new
    team will be expecting to win races with Peugeot and thanks to their
    formidable engine.
    
    Honda did not like that. What may happen is that they just supply 1996
    version V10s to Prost.
    
    In my opinion Prost could have announced that he was now the sole owner
    of Ligier and that the team was now renamed Prost Grand Prix. By the
    middle of the year (and after a couple of wins with the Honda engine..) he 
    could have had a second press event announcing the Peugeot deal.
                                                                          
148.3TURRIS::lspace.zko.dec.com::winalskiPLIT Happens...Tue Feb 18 1997 21:305
RE: .2

Maybe it was Peugeot that insisted he announce the deal now.

--PSW
148.4EVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredFri Mar 28 1997 16:4417
    There is an interesting interview with Alain Prost in today's l'Equipe,
    concentrating mainly on his experiences as a driver in Brazil. He
    states that the welcome from the Brazilian fans is warmer than anywhere
    else, even in France, or Italy when he was driving for Ferrari.
    
    He goes on to say that he never felt the need for protection from body
    guards in Brazil, even at the height of his rivalry with Senna. He did
    need protection in Italy after he left Ferrari.
    
    Apparently, the Brazilian press has made Panis the favorite for
    Sunday's race if it rains! Why not, after all.
    
    Prost is also now an active member of the Ayrton Senna Foundation for
    children. This confirms my long-held belief that he is not only an
    outstanding driver, but he is also a fine human being.
    
    Edward.
148.5great race week-end in BrazilLEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Tue Apr 01 1997 22:134
    Once again a very good week-end for Prost GP with Panis driving a
    beautiful race to 3rd on the podium. The 1-stop strategy shows that
    Bridgestone definitely have good tyres (who else could manage 40 laps
    on the same set?). And again a very good result for Honda and Mugen. 
148.6the gangLEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Tue Apr 01 1997 22:2016
    The future of the Prost GP team is looking sound, financially that is.
    
    Is it due to the good results obtained by Olivier Panis in Australia
    and Brazil? The list of french companies interested in having their
    names printed on the cars is building up.
    
    The well-known candidates are:
    
    - Total 		(Oil, associated with Peugeot)
    - Dassault  	(CATIA CAD software)
    - Alcatel
    - Carbone Industrie (Disc brakes, sub of SEP, rocket engines)
    - Aerospatiale
    - Michelin 
    
    I heard that TOTAL's support could be announced soon.
148.7EVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredTue Apr 08 1997 12:068
    I think that BIC (you know, the razor and ballpoint pen people) have
    also signed a sponsorship deal with PGP for several years.
    
    I am beginning to question the wisdom of his decision to go with
    Peugeot next year, because they seem to be doing just fine with the
    Mugen.
    
    Edward.
148.8LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Mon Apr 14 1997 13:1812
148.9IOSG::breez.reo.dec.com::tron::freerMon Apr 14 1997 22:284
There was some talk of mr Walkinshaw getting his hands on those 
Hondas!

Steve
148.10LJSRV2::ALLEGREZZAGeorge Allegrezza @LJOTue Apr 15 1997 18:0017
    Re: .8

    There was a feature on Mugen in Racecar Engineering a couple of years
    back.  It's a large, technically advanced, and very capable engine
    design and manufacture firm.  If it's a "repair shop" then I'm Bill
    Clinton.  (BTW, it's fun selecting Ignore when that name pops up in the
    spellchecker.)

    While the Bridgestones and superior ownership/management have
    contributed greatly to the newfound competitiveness of Prost-Mugen, the
    engine has made a very big difference as well.  I would think most of
    the teams would move heaven and earth to get the Mugen after Prost
    drops it.

    George

    George
148.11LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Wed Apr 16 1997 16:5010
    George,
    
    I don't think Prost GP current success owes much to Mugen. At least in
    F1, Mugen is only building / rebuilding engines designed by Honda.
    Actually based on the last race I don't think the Prost drivers were
    too happy about the work done by Mugen with both engines giving up.
    
    I'm really questioning the decision to go with Peugeot when Prost could
    have secured a privileged link with Honda. Given the performance of the
    current engine I'm sure Honda will have a winner next year.
148.12EVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredFri Apr 18 1997 01:103
    ...and the fact that Prost drove a Honda-powered car to  a world title.
    
    Edward
148.13Cinq sur cinqEVTSG8::STURTTotally wiredWed May 07 1997 18:249
    PGP has secured yet another lucrative sponsorship deal.
    Telecommunications giant Alcatel will be backing the team as of
    tomorrow, when the cars are rolled out for practice in Monte Carlo.
    
    With a sponsor like that, the team should not, at the very least,
    suffer any of the Benettonesque communications failures between pits
    and car.
    
    Edward.
148.14CHEFS::LINCOLN_JWed May 07 1997 19:292
	.. and they're moving from Magny Cours to a site near Paris.
	Apparnetly Prost actually favoured a UK base but..
148.15LEMAN::CHEVAUXPatrick Chevaux @GEO, DTN 821-4150Wed May 07 1997 22:5512