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Conference 7.286::space

Title:Space Exploration
Notice:Shuttle launch schedules, see Note 6
Moderator:PRAGMA::GRIFFIN
Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:974
Total number of notes:18843

930.0. "? Meteor Observation" by ECADSR::BIRO () Thu Dec 15 1994 17:54

I was driving home and the sky seem to have gotten brighter,
It was Wed the 14th of Dec at about 8:25 PM EST, I was driving
SW. 

I look up and saw a very large fire ball, it took the size of
about a dime if I had place it on my windshield.  The top of
the windshield is tinted, so it might have changed the color
of the object.  The object was a white ball, the leading edge
was like little sparkles that seem to be sparking green, the
two edges sweep back about twice the diameter of the ball.

It last for a few more seconds and then burnt out.

Was it a meteor or a fire ball?

thanks john

    
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930.1SKYLAB::FISHERIndecision is the key to flexibility!Thu Dec 15 1994 20:144
The Geminids (sp?) meteor shower was the 14th, I believe.  It may have been one
of them.

Burns
930.2Fireball seen evening of the 14thNETCAD::BATTERSBYThu Dec 15 1994 20:2031
    I peeled this off the USENET where it was mentioned that a
    fireball was seen. It might have been the same fireball, just
    seen from a different location.
    
    Bob
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Article: 78643
Newsgroups: sci.astro,alt.sci.planetary
From: hurleyj@netcom.com (Jim Hurley)
Subject: Re: Meteor Shower 12/14?
Organization: Mind Your Own, a division of None of Your
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 11:20:21 GMT
 
szabo@netcom.com (Nick Szabo) writes:
 
-->I've heard radio reports of a significant meteor shower
-->tonight (12/14, midnight-current).  It's cloudy here
-->in the San Fransisco Bay Area.  Any info?                 
 
-->(Also there have been major power surges and outages
-->all down the U.S. West Coast, presumably unrelated!)
-->-- 
-->Nick Szabo				szabo@netcom.com
 
I saw a large fireball from my car while driving tonight
at about 10:30.
-- 
 Jim Hurley                                          hurleyj@netcom.com
    ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/hu/hurleyj/www/home.html
NOTE change ----------------^^^   This is accessible; Netcom is slow...
 
930.3SKYLAB::FISHERIndecision is the key to flexibility!Fri Dec 16 1994 15:363
Yeah...I wonder what time zone Hurley is in?

Burns
930.4Usually a pretty good shower...19472::petertrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyMon Dec 19 1994 14:148
The Geminids are a noticably active meteor shower and somewhat unusual in
that their radiant is somewhat high up before midnight, and therfore
quite visible in the early evening hours, rather than some ungodly
hour before dawn.  I saw a few previous to the maximum, but got mostly
cloudy skies around the peak (which I thought was closer to the 11th, but
that's not what I've been reading afterwards.  Sigh...)

PeterT
930.5When & Where to see Geminids?NETCAD::GUPTATue Oct 17 1995 17:277
    
    Does anyone know on what date the Geminids are expected to peak this
    December (1995)?  Also, are they visible all over the world or only in the
    northern hemisphere?
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
930.6skylab.zko.dec.com::FISHERI've advocated term limits for 19 years! - Rep Bob DornanWed Oct 18 1995 12:3411
It apparently peaks on Dec 14.  You nominally see about 30 meteors/hour. 
However, the fainter meteors will be washed out by bright moonlight, so the
Orionids (20 m/h) may be a better view this year on Oct 22, since they peak 2
days before the new moon.

November 17 is the Leonid shower, btw (10-15 m/h).

This according to several web sites that I reached by searching for Geminids on
the Excite! web searcher.

Burns
930.7LHOTSE::DAHLWed Oct 18 1995 12:3917
RE: <<< Note 930.5 by NETCAD::GUPTA >>>

>Also, are they visible all over the world or only in the northern hemisphere?

Since meteor showers are caused by the Earth running into collections of
particles, and since the Earth moves "sideways" through space (equator first,
so to speak), the northern and southern hemispheres receive about the same
exposure (the 23 degree axis tip will favor one hemisphere or the other some-
what, at different times of the year, but not greatly). So observers on both
hemispheres should statistically see something similar. 

If the shower's peak is very short, then only those observers on the then-night
side (east/west) will get a good view.

I'm sure the Astronomy conference (not sure where that is now) has lots of
information. 
						-- Tom
930.8More info in WARHED::ASTRONOMY...NETCAD::BATTERSBYWed Oct 18 1995 15:473
    The Astronomy conference is at WARHED::ASTRONOMY.
    
    Bob
930.9thanksNETCAD::GUPTAWed Oct 18 1995 19:315
    
    Thanks for all the info!
    
    -Sanjeev
    
930.10get thee to the astro conference!!!SMURF::PETERTrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyWed Oct 18 1995 19:5823
    This should really be in astro, but...
    
    Some showers do favor one hemisphere over another.  Meteor showers 
    are usually associated with comets (being particles thrown off
    the comet) and have a definite orbit.  Depending on the inclination
    of the orbit and where the earth intersects it leads to the
    meteors appearing to be radiating from a certain point.  Hence
    their being assigned various names depending on which constellation
    the radiant is in.  The Geminids, being associated with a zodiacal
    constellation that is viewable from both hemispheres, should be
    visible from both, though might be slightly better from the north,
    as I believe the radiant is somewhat high in Geminii.  The moon
    should be wanning at that point, and the Geminid radiant is up 
    pretty early in the evening, so it could still be a good show.
    I have good memories of a nice Geminid shower a number of years
    back.  The one to watch over the next few years will be the 
    Leonids. Every 33 years or so there is a potential for a meteor
    storm from them, and the last one was in '66.  But it could be
    anywhere plus or minus a few years, so it might be worth checking
    out.
    
    PeterT
    
930.11LHOTSE::DAHLThu Oct 19 1995 15:305
RE: <<< Note 930.10 by SMURF::PETERT "rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty" >>>

Ok, good point about the relationship of meteor storms and comets. Those which
had high inclination orbits can produce off-ecliptic radiants.
						-- Tom