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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

1042.0. "FDX supportable adopters?" by TKTVFS::IDO (Naoki Ido, CSC/TOKYO, EWB, DTN 680-2456) Fri Jul 30 1993 04:04

Can anyone tell me which FDDI adoptor realy works with FDX? I can see DEFZA
is not good for that because DMA supports only for receiving. I know that 
DEFTA can support FDX. How about other stuff?
I heard that DEMFA doesn't support FDX? Is that true? If so, Why?

Regards,
Naoki
                         
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1042.1QUIVER::STEFANIElvis is my psychic advisorFri Jul 30 1993 04:308
    I don't know about the DEMFA, but all of the PDQ-based adapters (DEFTA,
    DEFEA, DEFQA, and DEFAA) all share basically the same firmware image
    and they all should support Full-Duplex mode.  The DEFEA comes with
    management software that allows you to enable FDX mode (it's off by
    default).  I can't say for the other adapters on how (if) FDX is
    enabled.
    
       - Larry
1042.2KONING::KONINGPaul Koning, A-13683Mon Aug 02 1993 17:4314
Full duplex doesn't have any connection with DMA.  

The MAC chip is the same on all the adapters, and that supports full duplex.
For many adapters, you won't get the maximum benefit from using it due to
throughput limitations elsewhere.  On some you may not get any benefit; DEFZA
is likely to be one of those, as is DEFQA, simply because the FDDI even in
half duplex can swamp the system for those adapters.  However, that doesn't
mean you couldn't turn on the feature if you want it for other reasons.

In fact, there are two benefits from full duplex: increased throughput as well
as reduced latency.  Increased throughput depends on adapters and software
that can take advantage of it; reduced latency is available to everyone.

	paul
1042.3How about DEMFA?TKTVFS::IDONaoki Ido, CSC/TOKYO, EWB, DTN 680-2456Tue Aug 03 1993 03:365
Can anyone tell us about DEMFA? I believe DEMFA has already had enough 
hradware for supporting FDX. May be it needs some help from the device 
driver.

Naoki
1042.4DEMFA requires new firmware for FDX modeCVG::TOMASWICKJoe - VAXcluster Validation/aka CVGTue Aug 03 1993 12:076
	FDX for DEMFA requires updated firmware. This is currently in test
and will likely be released sometime in the fall. The firmware will be
revision 2.0.

Joe
1042.5TKTVFS::IDONaoki Ido, CSC/TOKYO, EWB, DTN 680-2456Wed Aug 04 1993 05:465
re.4

Great news! Thanks for your info, Joe.

naoki
1042.6QUIVER::STEFANIElvis is my psychic advisorSun Aug 08 1993 01:207
    >>Full duplex doesn't have any connection with DMA.

    I realize that Paul.  :-) :-)  I just used the "PDQ-based" reference
    because I knew those cards share much of the same firmware code and
    have the firmware support for FDX.
    
       - Larry
1042.7STAR::STOCKDALEFri Aug 13 1993 11:266
On OpenVMS AXP, DEMFA V2.0 will be supported in the next release after V1.5.

Just don't expect 200 mbits since the hardware is limited to considerably
less (I've seen 113 mbits).

- Dick