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Conference 7.286::fddi

Title:FDDI - The Next Generation
Moderator:NETCAD::STEFANI
Created:Thu Apr 27 1989
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2259
Total number of notes:8590

1037.0. "SUN WS's and Unsollicited Resets" by CSC32::L_MORSE () Mon Jul 26 1993 19:23

    
    	An FDDI ring with 3 DECconcentrators is having one reboot
    	as a result of an unsollicited reset.  This network has 10
    	Sun workstations, Sparc 2' and IPX's, running 4.1.2.  Is there 
    	any way to determine via mgt software which address is sending
    	the unsollictied reset ?
    
    	I reviewed note 902.* so upgrading the sun sw and segementing
    	the Ring in three has been suggested.  But short of a trace
    	or segementation is there any way of finding the offending
    	station ?  The resets occur every other day or so.
    
    	Note all other counters LOOK ok.  The counters are from the 
    	OBM port on the concentrators.
    
    	Larry
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1037.1What we did....CTOAVX::BEAULIEUTue Jul 27 1993 19:2920
    We have with DECMCC, unsolicited resets monitored, this is how we
    caught the problem the first time (note 902) By doing a trace we
    caught the offending workstations. I know of no other way to find the
    address of the offending SUN station in a large network. You only have
    ten nodes, so if you could disconnect a node for 48 hours, or
    reconnect the node thru enet, you could start guessing. We found the
    offending nodes to be several machines.
    
    Be careful with SUN, I have found problems with SUN FDDI controllers
    and their software. SUN 4.1.2 has a bug in it that if you are on a
    directly connected FDDI SUN workstation with a SUN FDDI SBUS
    controller, TCP/IP will only work with other SUN nodes in the network,
    the DEC nodes and the IBM nodes couldn't communicate to the SUN node.
    
    We never saw the problem with unsolicited resets with SUNOS 4.1.2, but
    we did with SUNOS 4.1.3 as stated in note 902.  SUN has patches for
    both problems.
    
    Mike Beaulieu
                     
1037.2Patch Numbers?SANFAN::ROBAK_RIBorn to be obnoxiousWed Jul 28 1993 18:375
    Do you happen to know what the patch numbers are?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Richard Robak
1037.3Who got that patch?SAHQ::TROTTERFri Jul 30 1993 18:203
    I also have a site that is experiencing this kind of unsolicited reset
    and they Sun systems in the network.  I would like to know more about
    the patch as well.
1037.4sun patch IDCROWES::HULLEYMon Aug 09 1993 15:225
    The SUN patch ID is # 100706-04
    Synopsis: Problems with FDDI on Sun4c and Sun4m with 4.1.3
    Date may 93
    
    						Tom H
1037.5Didn't cure it.PFSVAX::MCELWEEOpponent of OppressionFri Oct 01 1993 02:3915
    	We're seeing Unsolicited Resets on DEFCNs V3.1 and 620 bridges V1.2 
    adjacent/connected to a SUN W/S with the patch mentioned in .4
    installed.
    
    	DEFCN V3.3 and 620 V1.3 will be installed this weekend. Line
    counters show Ring Inits. Recvd., nothing else. Having problems looking
    at the PHYPORT counters on the DEFCN because MSU/ELMS cannot access
    other than the A & B primary ring ports, and the OBM port isn't
    working...
    
    	What is the best way to approach this problem should the updates 
    not resolve it i.e. what analyzer would be best? DA30?
    
    Phil
    
1037.6One item solved.PFSVAX::MCELWEEOpponent of OppressionMon Oct 04 1993 14:2111
    Re: .5 (mine):
    
    >						Having problems looking
    >at the PHYPORT counters on the DEFCN because MSU/ELMS cannot access
    >other than the A & B primary ring ports...
    
    	This was fixed after V3.3 was installed on the DEFCN. Waiting to 
    see if the Unsolicited Resets problem is also resolved.
    
    Phil
    
1037.7Resolution.35405::MCELWEEOpponent of OppressionThu Dec 02 1993 04:186
    	A defective SUN FDDI adapter was the problem. It was isolated after
    tracing Beacon frames at several points on the ring. FWIW I used a HP
    Network Advisor (only analyzer available) and found it sorely lacking
    in features for this type of fault isolation.
    
    Phil