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Conference 7.286::dcu

Title:DCU
Notice:1996 BoD Election results in 1004
Moderator:CPEEDY::BRADLEY
Created:Sat Feb 07 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1041
Total number of notes:18759

974.0. "DCU Member Bonus" by GLRMAI::HICKOX (N1KTX) Fri Feb 02 1996 12:11

    
      In one of my last DCU statements there was an insert that stated
    that since the DCU did so well financially last year (had more money
    than needed) there would be a distribution to the membership based
    on the amount of interest paid on loans through DCU and the amount
    of funds that had been deposited throughout the year. The distribution
    I thought (not having the info. in front of me) was to take place
    around this time.  Does anyone know the exact formula that will be
    used and when members could expect to see this benefit?
    
    Regards,
          Mark
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974.1$1,000,000SLOAN::HOMFri Feb 02 1996 12:3416
Approximately $1 million will be distributed.  Each member with an
account that earned interest will receive $3 + a prorated share based on
the interested received by the member divided by the total interested
paid out by the credit union.

Each member with a loan will receive $5 + a prorated share based on the
interest paid to the DCU from the member divided by the total interest
received by the DCU.

Home mortgages are not included in the above calculations
but home equity lines, VISA, ACL are.

I checked on my own account with PC Branch. A bonus dividend
was paid on 1/31/96.

Gim
974.2Guess I can retire now31906::DOTENFri Feb 02 1996 13:473
    Oh, that must be why my checking balance is off by $6.
    
    -glenn-
974.319096::BUSKYFri Feb 02 1996 15:1623
>                           -< Guess I can retire now >-
>     Oh, that must be why my checking balance is off by $6.
    
    Hey, a bonus is a Bonu$! It was only a few short years ago that
    some, maybe even many, where questioning the viability this very
    credit union. 

    Now we have...

    - No Fees
    - No Choices ;-)
    - An active Board
    - A New Prez
    - Magone locked up
    - Bonus Dividends

    This place is better than it ever was!

    Charly

    P.S. I believe that the bonuses were posted your primary savings
    account, (if you have one) so look there first.

974.4All mortgages excluded ?IRALLY::LEVITINAction = LifeMon Feb 05 1996 14:547
Gim wrote:
    Home mortgages are not included....


Even if DCU owns the mortgage? (Not just services it, but owns it?)

Sam
974.5SLOAN::HOMMon Feb 05 1996 17:1414
Whether a first mortgage is held by the DCU or sold is determined
not by the credit worthiness of the borrower but the need of the
credit union to limit interest rate exposure.

Thus whether is mortgage is sold or not is beyond the member's control.

For this reason, DCU mgmt recommended, and the board approved, that
mortgages be excluded from the calculations.

This in no way changed the total pay out of the bonus dividend. 

Gim


974.6BIGQ::GARDNERjustme....jacquiWed Feb 07 1996 15:513
    how long did mangone get???  and where????   is he playing golf???

974.7CADSYS::RITCHIEElaine Kokernak Ritchie, 225-4199Wed Feb 07 1996 16:013
See 672.47 and following

Elaine
974.8SALEM::DODASpring training, PLEASE!Wed Feb 28 1996 21:1012
Not the correct nore for this question, but close enough...

Was there something mailed out a month ago or so that gave 
members some sort of bonus for bringing in a new member who got 
approved for an auto loan?

I swear I saw it, but can find nothing at home now.

Anyone know?

thanks
Daryll
974.9MOLAR::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dogface)Wed Feb 28 1996 23:133
I remember a posting to that effect at a branch. I think it was $50, but
could be wrong. The info line should be able to tell you.

974.10HYLNDR::BADGERCan DO!Thu Feb 29 1996 10:124
    it's true, I got my $50 for signing up my son for a car loan.
    the member you bring in has to start a new account and get a loan.
    ed
    
974.11bonus dividend announced for 1996.SUBSYS::SUNDARESANMon Dec 23 1996 14:535
974.12How was the bonus dividend calculated?UNXA::ZASLAWSteve ZaslawTue Feb 11 1997 16:045
I am very happy with DCU and with the bonus dividend we just received. However,
I would like to know the formula used to compute the bonus. This was asked
earlier in this thread, but I see no answer. 

Thanks. -- Steve
974.13bonus calculationsSLOAN::HOMTue Feb 11 1997 17:1210
Half the bonus was paid to depositors and half to borrowers.
Each received their prorata share of the dividend bonus.

This year, mortgages, whether sold or not was included in the calculations
on the borrowing side. The rationale was that members had no control over
the selling of the mortgages - but that they should be rewarded for
bringing their mortgage business to the credit union.

Gim

974.14Curious about just how it's reckonedUNXA::ZASLAWSteve ZaslawWed Feb 12 1997 21:5122
>Half the bonus was paid to depositors and half to borrowers.
>Each received their prorata share of the dividend bonus.

So the algorithm is something like 

my-bonus = 0.5 * (interest-paid-me-in-96/interest-paid-everyone-in-96 
                + interest-I-paid-in-96/all-interest-paid-in-96) * total-bonus
?

For instance if I received $1000 interest on my deposits, and DCU paid out
$10 million in 1996, and I paid $5000 interest on my loans, and DCU received
$20 million in interest on loads in 1996, and the bonus was $1 million, I'd get

0.5*(1000/10,000,000+5000/20,000,000)*1,000,000

= $175

Or is it based on balances on deposit and loan balances or something else?

What are the actual figures representing DCU totals used in the equation?

-- Steve
974.15conceptually correct ....SLOAN::HOMThu Feb 13 1997 11:4514
The algorithm is conceptually correct. It is based on interest paid/received by
the credit union over the year and NOT on balances. 

I say conceptually because there are adjustments or exceptions in both
the numerator and denominator of the equation 
which must be made.  For example, members  who default on their loans
and cause a charge off will not get a bonus dividend, etc.

If you want more details, give the credit union a call.

Gim