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Conference abbott::teamlinks_windows

Title:	TeamLinks for Windows
Notice:	Kit and ECO locations: See replies to note 8.o note 8.
Moderator:	ORION::chayna.zko.dec.com::tamara::eppesAN

Created:	Mon Aug 28 1995
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2238
Total number of notes:	9650

2214.0. "TeamLinks V2.7 with Office97 - save as DOS ?" by MSAM03::HOSOKEHUN () Fri May 23 1997 02:09

    HI,
    
    I have a user who has installed TeamLinks V2.7 with ODMA and also
    Office 97 on his notebook.
    
    He noticed that now whenever he tried to do a 'save as', the TeamLinks
    file cabinet is launched. In the previous integration, we can reset the
    option as to whether we want to launch DOS or the file cabinet, how do
    I do that in Office 97 ? Do not seem to find the same option as the
    previous integration.....
    
    Bottom line, he wants to send mail from Word 97 using TeamLinks, but he
    also wants to save his documents in DOS instead of TeamLinks file
    cabinet.
    
    Thanks in advance,
    Angeline

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2214.1 Need vendors to implement this. XANADU::cascobay.zko.dec.com::TAMARA::STJEAN Bob St.Jean Fri May 23 1997 13:42 54

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2214.1	Need vendors to implement this.	XANADU::cascobay.zko.dec.com::TAMARA::STJEAN	Bob St.Jean	`Fri May 23 1997 13:42`	54
	Angeline, There is no way to make any of the major ODMA apps allow the user to specify that they want to see the native file system (i.e. DOS) dialog box first. They all make the DMS dialog display first. I can't find any explicit instructions in the ODMA Spec that say the DMS dialog must be displayed first. I thought there was something but I cannot find it now. I think one of the reasons the application vendors make the DMS dialog display first is the DMS dialog is required to have a way for the user to indicate that they want to save to the native file system. An example is the "DOS..." button in the TL dialogs. Only the Corel apps have a "Doc Mgr..." button to allow the user to go back to the DMS dialog. I've asked the vendors to provide a way to get back to the DMS dialog from the DOS dialog and most have said no. Their reasoning is the user can just press Cancel and do the command again. I also asked them to provide an option to allow the user to display the DOS dialog first, but they all considered it a feature request that was not called for in the ODMA Spec and sited the need for the addition button in the DOS dialog to make it work. I asked for both because it is something DEC did in most of the old macro integrations and I knew people would want it in the new ODMA integrations. I can't work-around this in the TL ODMA code. It's up to the application to implement it. > Bottom line, he wants to send mail from Word 97 using TeamLinks, but he > also wants to save his documents in DOS instead of TeamLinks file > cabinet. It depends really on what he wants. If needs to sometimes save files directly from Word into the FC, then he has to continue with ODMA and just press the DOS... button. If he never wants to open or save FC documents in Word then I question why he installed ODMA. ODMA and Simple MAPI are not dependant on each other. If all he wants is mail, then he can do that. BTW - To disable ODMA, just rename ODMA.DLL and/or ODMA32.DLL. These files are in the windows system directory. If you do that you disable ODMA for all apps on the PC. We're working on a way to disable it on a per application basis. HTH, Bob

Angeline,

There is no way to make any of the major ODMA apps allow the
user to specify that they want to see the native file system 
(i.e. DOS) dialog box first.  They all make the DMS dialog
display first.

I can't find any explicit instructions in the ODMA Spec that
say the DMS dialog must be displayed first.  I thought there
was something but I cannot find it now.  I think one of the reasons 
the application vendors make the DMS dialog display first is 
the DMS dialog is required to have a way for the user to indicate
that they want to save to the native file system.  An example
is the "DOS..." button in the TL dialogs.  Only the Corel apps
have a "Doc Mgr..." button to allow the user to go back to the
DMS dialog.

I've asked the vendors to provide a way to get back to the
DMS dialog from the DOS dialog and most have said no.  Their
reasoning is the user can just press Cancel and do the command
again.  I also asked them to provide an option to allow the user
to display the DOS dialog first, but they all considered it a
feature request that was not called for in the ODMA Spec and
sited the need for the addition button in the DOS dialog to
make it work.

I asked for both because it is something DEC did in most of the 
old macro integrations and I knew people would want it in the 
new ODMA integrations.

I can't work-around this in the TL ODMA code.  It's up to the
application to implement it.

> Bottom line, he wants to send mail from Word 97 using TeamLinks, but he
> also wants to save his documents in DOS instead of TeamLinks file
> cabinet.

It depends really on what he wants.  If needs to sometimes save
files directly from Word into the FC, then he has to continue
with ODMA and just press the DOS... button.  If he never wants to
open or save FC documents in Word then I question why he installed
ODMA.

ODMA and Simple MAPI are not dependant on each other.  If all he
wants is mail, then he can do that.

BTW - To disable ODMA, just rename ODMA.DLL and/or ODMA32.DLL.  These
files are in the windows system directory.  If you do that you 
disable ODMA for all apps on the PC.  We're working on a way to
disable it on a per application basis.

HTH,
Bob