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Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

1908.0. "Media Coverage of Yachting" by UTROP1::OUTER_R (Raiders of the last bug.) Thu Aug 13 1992 13:18

Olympic sailing has changed the last four years to adjust to the media in order
to be a more spectator sport. The question is now did we succeed or not.
Was there more media attention for yachting in the games of the 25th olympic at
Barcelona, and was our sport interresting for spectators.

The Soling Class has adopted matchracing as the tool for the assignment of the
medals. The Class voluntered on request of the IYRU to experiment with this
system. Therefor the Soling Class in now VERY interested how this experiment
pleased the media, there audiance and THE SAILORS.

As a committee member of the international Soling Class I like your opinion on
the media coverage of the Olympics.

Please include in your reply:
o If you are a regatta sailor
o In what country do you live and in what area (state, province, town)
o Did your country had representatives in yachting
o Did your country had a representative in the soling class
o Did the representatives won medals
o Did the Soling representative won a medal
o Was there TV coverage (state classes)
o Was there Live TV coverage (state classes)
o Wat was there other media coverage

Thanks in advance


Met sportieve groeten

Ruud den Outer
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1908.1LARVAE::JORDANChris Jordan, TSE - Technology Services, End-User ComputingThu Aug 13 1992 13:5913
    The idea of match racing at the end sounded great - a sort of heats and
    finals approach.
    
    The UK did get a medal in the Soling, but that still wasn't enough to
    have it shown on the TV - at least it never was while I was watching
    except for 5 seconds in the review at the end of the Olympics when
    we had a picture of each of the medal winners.
    
    
    I would say not all classes are ideal for a match race finish... butfor
    the Solings I like the idea - I hope someone has made a decent video
    that we cah show at the local club....
    
1908.2STAR::KENNEYThu Aug 13 1992 14:0336
o If you are a regatta sailor
    
    On occasion but not more than a couple of times a year.  Keep talking
    about changing it but have yet to find a boat that I really want to own
    and race on a regular basis that also has any local activity.
    
o In what country do you live and in what area (state, province, town)
    
    	U.S.A. Nashua New Hampshire
    
o Did your country had representatives in yachting
    
    	Yes
o Did your country had a representative in the soling class
    
    	Yes
o Did the representatives won medals
    
    	Yes
o Did the Soling representative won a medal
    
    	Yes
o Was there TV coverage (state classes)
    
    	A brief couple minute wrap up one morning mostly featuring the
    Prince of Spain rather than any U.S. sailors.
    
o Was there Live TV coverage (state classes)
    
    	Not that I know of and I looked to see.
    
o Wat was there other media coverage
    
    	In the boating magazines there was pre-olympic articles and I wrap
    up one in the future.  I do not get any news papers so do not know if
    they covered anything.
1908.3nz coverage PIHIA::ARLINGTONMon Aug 17 1992 06:3837
o If you are a regatta sailor

	No 


o country - city - yacht club

	New Zealand - Auckland - Bucklands Beach

o Yes NZ had representatives in all classes.

o Yes see above

o NZ won 4 medals at the games 1 gold,2 silver,1 bronze
	Womans Sailboard
	Star (Rod Davies, Don Cowie of Americas Cup NZL20)

o The Soling Representative ( Russell Coutts Also off NZL20) finished 8th in 
the prelims


o Live - the only problem was it started just after midnight and I have to 
work, the classes I actually saw where 470 - mens and womans, Flying Dutchman,
Star. I'm sure the soling was featured but the classes where not advertised
in the future as TV here didn't know what they where getting in advance. 
Certain if Russell Coutts had of qualified.

o Live - But we are strong in the yachting 

o Lots of other media coverage but again it was the only gold won.


Cheers
Revel

P.S. does anyone out there know how to copy replies between windows in NOTES
so I can just answer the questions.
1908.4try this ...CUPTAY::BAILEYSeason of the WinchMon Aug 17 1992 15:2516
    >> does anyone out there know how to copy replies between windows in NOTES
    >> so I can just answer the questions.
    
    I do if you're working on a terminal, not using DECwindows.  Hit the DO
    key at the top of your keyboard.  Then type OTHER.  This puts your
    cursor in the window of the reply you are replying to.  The method of
    cutting and pasting your reply depends on the editor you're using, but
    the keypad key REMOVE should work to cut out the part of the reply you
    want.  When you've finished cutting, hit the DO key and type OTHER
    again.  This puts you back in your reply window.  Then hit INSERT HERE
    to add the text you cut from the reply in the window above yours.
    
    Hope this helps ...
    
    				... Bob
    
1908.5More pleaseUTROP1::OUTER_RRaiders of the last bug.Tue Aug 18 1992 18:275
Please back to the original question.

I'm also interested if you did not see yachting during the olympic broadcasts

Keep me posted.
1908.6We Do NOT need the Media!UTROP1::OUTER_RRaiders of the last bug.Fri Aug 21 1992 09:075
Having almost no replies proves my point that people are NOT interested to have
sailing as a passive media sport but as a sport they want to practice
themselves.

Rudy
1908.7SHIPS::GOUGH_PPete GoughFri Aug 21 1992 10:3610
    Rudy,
       I would love to see more sailing on television, the amount shown in
    the UK is minimal. However during the summer it would probably be shown
    at weekends when....most of us are out on the water , so it would have
    to be taped. Now if only this winter someone would do a weekly series
    that showed the Olympics, America's cup, Tall ships race, Brest
    '92......
    
    
    Pete
1908.8Grand Prix Style?BAHTAT::BOYLEJohn boyle @RKG Royal Kingdom of Geordieland!Fri Aug 21 1992 13:1210
    Rudy,
    	I would have replied but found your questionnaire a bit daunting!
    :^) I would love to see more class racing on TV. Close quarters racing
    is exciting when your participating but I wonder whether this could be
    captured in the same way as land base sports. I suppose in these days
    of mini cameras they could be installed on a few boats and with a
    roving cameraman on an inflatable it could grab the attention of the
    non -participant public. A weekly magazine type program would probably
    do for me. I'm in North East UK. Crew on a racing Oyster 41 and race my
    own GP14. Hope this helps. _ John
1908.9Never leave the dock without a cameraRDGENG::BEVANFri Aug 21 1992 15:3221
Ditto  .7   Coverage in the UK was almost nil, I guess there is a limited
	audience.  Apart from a few seconds on the national news about the
	Soling victory we got zip. 

Re  .3	I wouldn't mind taping a broadcast at 4am in the morning but we 
	don't even get that  ;^(


	The best UK coverage of other (non-Olympic) events was America 
	Cup, Admiral's Cup and the Ultra-Light 30's racing (whatever 
	that regatta was). These all "made it" because they all carried 
	water-proof(=submersible for Ultra's) video cameras aboard which 
	brings the action home much better, especially if boat passing 
	behind smacks the camera mount ;^).  All the technology 
	for remote control of the cameras is there, just waiting to be
	used. 

	This seems to be the clue to getting sailing on air. Make it 
	interesting/exciting/understandable and people (=non-sailing 
	fraternity) will watch. So the numbers and the ratings go up, 
	which is all the TV companies care about. 
1908.10It was in the air.UTROP1::OUTER_RRaiders of the last bug.Mon Aug 24 1992 16:579
During this olympics all six solings in the matchrace event where equiped with
onboard camara's, twelve other camara's where available on shore, in active
steered double cardanic remote controled devices on powerboat's and in two
helicopters.

All races where broadcasted live from spain. The countries only had to pickup
the signal. Obvious the did not.

Rudy
1908.11I hate water balletAKO539::KALINOWSKIMon Aug 24 1992 21:5617
    Here in the states, we had 100's of hours of free coverage. in
    addition, for only $125, you could get an additional 3 channels that
    would broadcast 12 hours of coverage each day.
    
    With all that air time, there was NO sailing coverage, except for the
    windsurfer piece. I was willing to shell out the $125 for some decent
    sailing coverage, but when I saw the schedule, I couldn't see coughing
    up the money for a bunch to events I wouldn't slow down driving to see
    live. In Korea four years ago, at least there was some coverage of
    sailing.
    
    I guess if we are to change this for Atlanta, someone had better start
    giving sailing lessons to a certain Chicago Bulls celeberity so Nike,  
    wants to fund a bunch of commericals for sailing shoes 
    "Yes, you can slap dunk your opponents tacks, and put the killer cover 
    on them with the NEW Michel Jordon  BAD-Air Nikes! "
           
1908.12What windsurfer piece?MORO::SEYMOUR_DOMORE WIND!Tue Aug 25 1992 17:464
    I'd be very interested in the windsurfer piece if anyone has it on
    tape.  Was it on regular or triple cast?
    
    Don