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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

2109.0. "Advice needed for a novice" by JUMP4::JOY (Perception is reality) Wed Feb 09 1994 16:44

    Sorry if this is in a note somewhere else. I searched through the
    indecies in 3.* and didn't really see anything that I was looking for.
    We just bought a house on a small lake in Mass. I would like to learn
    to sail and will look into taking some sailing lessons, perhaps in
    Lowell as mentioned in note 1855. I would also like to buy a small
    sailboat such as a Sunfish to use for just practicing and putting
    around our lake (its about 1 mile across and maybe 2 miles long). I
    know very little about sailboats and would like some advice and info on
    purchasing a small boat like this. How much do they cost? Should I
    consider buying a used one? What other brands are in the small/learner
    category other than Sunfish? I've seen the boats at the sailing club on
    Lake Quinsigamond in Worcester and they to be about the right size.
    Does anyone know what they are orif they ever sell any used?
    
    Thanks for all help from this beginner sailor.
    
    Debbie
    
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2109.1RPCS Sailing LessonsBLUFSH::REEDWed Feb 09 1994 17:1530
    I think the Regatta Point Community Sailing program (RPCS) may be
    covered somewhere else, but here are my 2-cents worth in any case.

    RPCS is part of Quinsigamond State Park and opens up around the
    middle or end of April.  They do not rent boats.  Basically, they
    have 4-week, 9-week, and full-season memberships.  Instruction and
    use of the boats is free to members, although a lot of us members
    have become volunteer instructors because of funding cutbacks.

    Their instruction is very methodical and safety oriented and you
    can be out solo on the water in a 17-foot O'day daysailer in about
    four or five 1-hour lessons.  I can't give you any 1994 specifics but
    I can mail you the 1993 brochure if you send me your mailstop or DTN
    at BLUFSH::REED or LEZAH::REED

    This summer will be my fifth year sailing there, and there are any
    numbers of options for owning your own sailboat.  The Sunfish is
    nice but a friend of mine has a Snark that he really likes.  It's
    bigger and heavier but is car-top carriable and is good for taking
    out guests or kids.

    There is a lot more to sailing than meets the eye, so what I would
    suggest is to maybe take a few lessons and learn all you can before
    buying a boat.  One of their rules is that children under 18 must
    wear a lifejacket.  This is also a standard rule for friends of mine
    who are power boaters.  If the lake gets a little rough, the adults
    put theirs on too.
    
    Regards,
    Ed
2109.2Used sailboats don't depreciate like power or carsUNIFIX::FRENCHBill French 381-1859Wed Feb 09 1994 19:1310
    If you are interested in buying a boat, definitely consider a used one. 
    Sailboats don't need to be junk because they have a few years on them.
    If you are careful about what you buy, you should be able to sell it
    for almost as much at a later time if you decide to either give up
    sailing or move up to a bigger boat. There are plenty of us who can 
    give you advice and answer qustions. I for one would be happy to when
    I am not quite so busy. Send mail if you want to chat some lunch hour.
    
    Bill
    
2109.3Small sailboats and lessonsCFSCTC::CLAFLINThu Feb 10 1994 19:3031
What I have to say compliments the first two notes.

From my limited experience the Daysailer is a good boat.  My cousin sails his 
on a regular basis out of Woods Hole, (in conditions beyond my skill).  It gives
good performance and has yet to dunk me in the drink.

I considered the sail club at Quinsigamund.  My reasons for declining have 
nothing to do with the program.  Except for the fact that I have just purchased
my new pride and joy, I would seriously consider them if only due to the easy
access.  They used to have reciproprosity with the Lowell club and the Charles
River club.  

My birthday present to Amy was a sailing course of her choice from WOMANSHIP.
WOMANSHIP is geared towards bigger boats and coastal cruising.

Vis a vie the Daysailer and a Sailfish.  The Daysailer needs a light trailer.
The Sailfish could be put on a car top.  Both are light enough to be moved by
any car.  The Sailfish is a slightly wetter ride than a Sunfish.  There were 
a couple of differnt models of the Daysailer made, and by at least two differnt
companies (Daysailer?, O'Day). 

A house in Boxborough had a Daysailer for sale last year or the year before.
When I walked by the other day, it was still in his yard.  I do not think it has
been in the water for a couple of years.  If you are interested, I'll go knock
on the door some time and find out who they are etc.  However, especailly since
it is the same boat as used at Quinsigamund, I would join the club for a while
first.

Doug Claflin
dtn 244-7042
hm 508 635-0460
2109.4Thanks and another questionJUMP4::JOYPerception is realityFri Feb 11 1994 14:2817
    Thanks for all the input both off line and in here. So far it sounds
    like I really need to do some sailing before I think about buying
    something.
    
    Re: .-1 Does a boat being out of the water for a couple years make it
    more likely to have problems with leaking, etc? We have a dock so the
    boat would stay tied to that for the season once I get one, so at least
    initially I won't worry about moving it around much (except to get it
    to the lake when I buy it).
    
    Can anyone recommend a good magazine on sailing that I can use to get a
    feeling for sizes, capacities, etc? I really have no clue about
    reasonable lengths or sail sizes or anything.
    
    Thanks
    Debbie
    
2109.5Small is funSANDZ::WAGNERScottFri Feb 11 1994 15:3823
2109.6STARCH::HAGERMANFlames to /dev/nullFri Feb 11 1994 18:0313
    Another plug for the program at RPCS; the people there are both
    friendly and extremely knowledgeable. The experience level and
    expertise available is quite high--well beyond what is actually needed
    to get a sailboat to move through the water.
    
    My experience was that I bought a Laser before I joined RPCS, and after
    a year of thrashing around I joined to take some sailing lessons. Their
    racing program caught my interest and frankly, knowing what I know now,
    I probably shouldn't have bought the Laser in the first place. After a
    summer of sailing down there you will be much better able to judge what
    you want in a boat...
    
    Doug.
2109.7Out of the water is good. Out of the sun is better.UNIFIX::FRENCHBill French 381-1859Fri Feb 11 1994 20:089
    A boat will deteriorate out of the water if it is made of wood.
    Fibreglass will deteriorate a lot less, and the only big factor is not
    that it is left out of the water but that it is left out in the
    sunshine. UV rays deteriorate almost everything. Some things faster
    than others. Sails especially should not be left in the sun more than
    necessary.
    
    Bill