[Search for users] [Overall Top Noters] [List of all Conferences] [Download this site]

Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

578.0. "Repair advice request" by RGB::SCOTT () Mon Jun 22 1987 13:03

   My Kells 22 has a broken tiller - (a story in itself), and I need to find
a source for a new one. The original dealer has gone out of business, and
Kells apparently no longer exists. The tiller was about four feet long, made
of laminated wood, and curved. It looks to be unrepairable. Any help or
advice would be greatly appreciated. (How about it, wood boat fans??)

T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
DateLines
578.1One source - Marine ExchangePUNDIT::MCWILLIAMSMon Jun 22 1987 16:5313
    I've seen some tillers in Arlene's Marine Exchange (Peabody), as
    of a couple of weeks ago she had three type in stock;
    
    a. a Straight one. 
    b. a Concave one. 
    c. an 'S' shaped one.
    
    All were laminated peices of some white wood (oak maybe ?). Several
    of the catelogues I get also have examples of tillers in them. What
    exactly are you looking for ?
    
    /jim

578.2optionsPULSAR::BERENSAlan BerensMon Jun 22 1987 16:5524
Tush, he said. Anything made of wood is repairable with a little epoxy. 
How neat a repair do you want? A quick and inelegant repair could be 
done in couple of hours (unless you totally demolished the original). If 
you want an elegant repair, there are three options:

	1. Adapt a stock tiller (available from various sources).

	2. Pay someone to custom make a tiller.

	3. Make the tiller yourself.

I made a new tiller for my boat sometime ago -- a lovely curved and
laminated ash and mahogany masterpiece (I think). If you have access to
a table saw, bandsaw, thickness planer, drill press, and lots of clamps,
making a custom tiller is only a 10 to 20 hour job if you have some
woodworking experience. Oh, you want 10 coats of varnish, too. Add
another 5 to 10 hours. I managed without the thickness planer (but the
tiller was one of several justifications for buying one recently). 

Adapting a stock tiller is by far the least expensive option (other than 
repair). How did you break a tiller, by the way?

Alan

578.3RGB::SCOTTTue Jun 23 1987 13:5521
  re .1

  Thanks for the location - I'll check it out!

  The 'S' shape is closest to what I had. The top of the rudder is within a 
couple of inches of the level of the stern, so I think the concave or 'S'
shapes are good choices, depending on where the curve starts. 

  re .2

  I'd feel uncomfortable about repairing the the tiller. It's about ten years
old, and it doesn't look to have been maintained all that well. The spilt
revealed wood that looked rotted to my untrained eye. As to how it
broke: the boat was pointed up in a strong wind, on what started out to be
a mild day, and the tiller decided it was time to retire. I'd noticed some 
cracks before, and had done some minor re-enforcing, but not enough. I've now
learned the hard way about priority of equipment repairs. (And am now wondering
about other potential failures.)