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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

570.0. "Transoms vs LWL and LOA" by NRADM::MITCHELL () Tue Jun 09 1987 20:47

    I have a question w/regard to LOA & LWL
    
    While looking a assorted boats I see that some have standard
    Transoms, some Vertical and some Reverse. Most reverse transoms
    seem to be more the racing style while the verticals and standards
    appear to be geared to Cruising yachts.
    
    	My Question is this:
    
    Is the reverse transome a style,a gimmick(to make you think you
    have a bigger boat) or for esthetics. I figure that you can lose
    a couple of feet in the difference.
    
    I assume the LWL is very little affected by the extremes.
    
    				___GM___

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570.1a viewPULSAR::BERENSAlan BerensTue Jun 09 1987 21:2922
With a reverse transom you obviously lose storage space (not a good
thing if you are a cruiser). There will also be less reserve buoyancy
aft, which will reduce load carrying ability and will likely have a bad 
effect in a big following sea. I would also think that a wave breaking 
against a reverse transom would be quite likely to slide right on into 
the cockpit. Lots of buoyancy aft would be nice when the cockpit fills 
with water. With a traditional transom the waterline length will 
increase as the boat heels. Not so with a reverse transom.

On the other hand a boat with a reverse transom is likely to be lighter
(good or bad depending on your viewpoint) and the mass of the hull will
be closer to the center of boat (generally good). 

Aesthetically, I'm partial to the graceful sheers and longish overhangs 
of older, more tradtional boats (eg, the Hinckley Bermuda 40). 
Aesthetics aside, I suspect that the reverse transom is mostly the result 
of racing rule influence but also the result of builders seeking to 
differentiate their products.

Alan


570.2it's all theoretical...ROCKET::HARDYWed Jun 10 1987 12:0112
    I've always believed that the main reason for the reverse transom
    is:
    	
    	theoretical hull speed ~= (1.25 to 1.5) * SQRT (LWL)
    
    That is; the lwl is extended thereby increasing theoretical hull
    speed, yet, with very little increase in displacement. 
    
    [Of course I'd rather be on that B40 to...]
    
    Gary H...

570.3KIALOA in NewportNRADM::MITCHELLWed Jun 10 1987 14:5916
    
    	Speaking of Transomes!                                                              
    
    	My wife and I did a B&B in Newport about a month ago.
    
    	A friend of mine has slip # 1 at the Pier restaurant. while
    	I was there I noticed a HUGE racing yacht up on stilts being
    	worked on...right across from the restaurant. The KIALOA...what
    	a monster! The radical rear transom must have been about 6'.
    	I also read recently that Kilroy, the owner, from LA just won
    	the Class A international race in the KIALOA..could it have
    	been the same boat?
    
    				___GM___
    

570.4THE 80+ FOOT MAXIMILVAX::BODGEThu Jun 18 1987 17:0413
    IN RESPONSE TO 570.3.....
    
1.  YES, THE BOAT YOU SAW WAS ONE IN THE SAME.  THE MAXIS WERE IN NEWPORT
    RACING OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS.  I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A
    CONSIDERABLE TURN OUT FOR THE BIG BOATS.  SOMEWHERE IN THE ORDER OF 
    SEVEN OR EIGHT OF THOSE 80 FOOTERS.  
    
2.  MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE REVERSE TRANSOM IS IN LINE WITH THE OTHER 
    RESPONSES.  INCREASE THE LWL WITHOUT ADDING SIGNIFICANT WEIGHT, 
    THEREBY INCREASING THEORETICAL HULL SPEED AND KEEPING THE WEIGHT 
    OFF THE ENDS.