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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

569.0. "$1000 for a 30' 1959 wood sloop?" by NRADM::MITCHELL () Tue Jun 09 1987 16:04

    	My wife and I are looking for a 27-30' boat for coastal
    sailing. We have seen quite a few "nice looking" boats, but
    the prices are all over the place. we have looked at new &
    used and I'm trying to keep the price around 20K...only 
    because I don't want to gamble on her not liking the sport.
    
    Now...The reason for this Note:
    
    	Onyone interested in a Dragon class sloop '59 mahogany
    30'LOA, 8' beam, 5 1/2' draft, 2000#, brass fittings, out
    of the water for 3 yrs, mast broken at the step, but jury
    rigged to sail, fibreglass cabin w/5'headroom,vhf, lots of
    sails, couple of mains and assort'd jibs, on a cradle and
    ready to move to your house to work on. The owner used to
    race this boat but other things prevent him from sailing
    any more(business) He's a friend of the family and I'd
    probably tackle the re-work but I have no time for that
    stuff at my age.
    
    	You can probably get the boat for $1000 maybe less
    Its stored at the Rummery Boat yard in Biddeford ME
    
    Call me if your interested and I'll give you his Phone #
    
    I did not see the boat and can not vouch for it's condition.
    
    		Hey what the heck  $1000...any guts? 
    
    			___george___ 
    

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569.1I forgot something!!NRADM::MITCHELLTue Jun 09 1987 16:156
    	I forgot to include my Phone #...what a dummy!
    
    	George Mitchell DTN 234-4534 @ NRO5/H4
    
    				___GM___

569.2use cautionPULSAR::BERENSAlan BerensTue Jun 09 1987 17:579
A good friend of mine bought an old 35' wooden boat (for quite a bit more 
than $1000) without an adequate survey. To his great dismay, before ever 
launching the boat he discovered very serious problems with the hull. 
After extensive discussions with various boatyards, he removed the 
engine and other useful parts and cut the hull to pieces with a chain 
saw. The estimates to rebuild the hull (no interior joinerwork) were 
$30 000 and higher. 


569.33D::GINGERTue Jun 16 1987 12:3217
    I like .2's advice- keep scaring off buyers of old wooden boats
    with horror stories like this one, so those of us that like to buy
    old wooden boats can get them for a song. 
    
    Clearly re-building and old boat can be a big job, and if you are
    paying someone to do it it will rarely be worth the effort. But
    if you want a project, and have the time to put into it, old boats
    like this can be a great deal. Frequently the total price of the
    boat is less than the price of just a minor bit of the deck hardware.
    My brother just boaught an old 30' Trojan Power boat for $100. That
    was with both engines, props and shafts- the props are worth $75
    each.
    
    Love those old wooden boats!
    
    Ron

569.4new tech meets old techOCCAM::FANEUFTue Jun 16 1987 14:0415
    I think Ron's advice is particularly true if the boat is a candidate
    for a non-traditional rebuild (i.e. if its esthetic or historic
    importance is not such that a perfect restoration is demanded).
    Then several less expensive and easier restoration technologies
    may be possible, particularly sheathing a tired hull with two or
    three layers of epoxied veneer (see WoodenBoat magazine for several
    good articles on how-to and the effects).
    
    This is not to trivialize either the effort or the expense (which
    remain considerable), but only to note the possibilities for the
    handy, or those who enjoy working on boats.
    
    Ross Faneuf