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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

325.0. "leaking seacock" by MTBLUE::BELTON_TRAVI () Mon Jun 02 1986 11:10

    After launching my boat this Saturday, I noticed that one of the
    bronze seacocks is dripping.  Moving the handle alternately open
    and closed seemed to increase the rate of drip, which was coming
    out of the wide (handle) end.  Even leaving it closed, there was
    a perceptable but small leak.  I have never had a drop come thru
    before.
    
    I plan to go back tonight and try a couple of things:
    	-attempt to force grease into the grease fitting
    	-gently tighten the nut end while tapping with a hammer and 
    block of wood on the leaking end
         
    Anyone with any experience in this or any other thoughts, short
    of hauling and disassembly?
    
    	Travis

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325.1GRAMPS::WCLARKWalt ClarkTue Jun 03 1986 12:029
    How about tapping a plug into the overboard from outside the hull?
    
    You can then check for leaks, and if none, remove the seacock or
    disassemble it.  There was an article on seacock maintenance earlier
    this year in Sail or Cruising World that showed how to cleanup and
    reseat the valve.  I will look it up for you if you like.  
    
    Walt

325.2see WOODEN BOATPULSAR::BERENSAlan BerensThu Jul 03 1986 18:107
The July/August 1986 issue of WOODEN BOAT has a long and very good 
article on selecting, installing, and maintaining bronze seacocks. 
Plastic seacocks weren't mentioned (this is a WOODEN BOAT article, 
remember). 

Alan

325.3Need AdviceDNEAST::POMERLEAU_BOTue Jun 25 1991 13:186
    Help, I have bronze seacocks and have had them apart this spring for
    cleaning and greasing. I used Super Lube and they are leaking now. What
    do I do? What kind of grease should I have used? Can they be fixed
    while my boat is in the water?
    
    
325.4me tooHAEXLI::PMAIERTue Jun 25 1991 13:418
    has somebody still access to the wooden boat article mentioned by
    Alan ?
    
    I have the same problem,but I'm in the lucky position,that my boat
    is out of the water for the next 4 weeks.
    
    
    Peter
325.5Me three...AKO539::KALINOWSKIMon May 03 1993 12:4610
    I too have my seacocks all disassembled and cleaned up. What kind of
    grease do you folks use for reassembly. I am thinking about Johnson's
    salt water repellant wheel bearing grease, but if anyone has a better
    idea....
    
    
    
       thanks 
    
       john
325.6Thought of Waterpump grease?DPDMAI::CLEVELANDGrounded on The RockFri May 07 1993 22:158
    I have been told (but have not yet tried) water pump grease. It's
    waterproof and is supposed to do great things (according the the
    do-it-yourself books I've read).
    
    You may want to get some other opinions on it, but it least this is one
    option that's easy to purchase. Any automotive shop should carry it.
    
    Robert
325.7another vote for H2O greaseEMDS::MCBRIDEFlick of my BIC Scarecrow?Mon May 10 1993 17:465
    Yes, do try waterpump grease.  It will not wash out and will keep your
    valves well lubricated.  It is not all that easy to find or it wasn't
    the last time I needed some.  
    
    Brian
325.8Leaking SeacocksWR2FOR::BOLTONJAFri Jul 23 1993 16:4016
    Does anyone know what the maintenance prodecures are for seacocks?
    
    I seem to be having some leakage thru my thruhulls when they are open.
    The primary culprit is the salt water intake for the diesel cooling
    system. 
    
    I always close the seacocks when I leave the boat and don't seem to
    get any excessive accumulation in the bilge when the boat has been left
    idle for a week or so. However, when sailing, I notice more water
    accumulation, and a slight trickle from the above mentioned seacock.
    
    I'd like to know what I can do to service these before I am faced with
    a major problem. Any help you can provide is appreciated.
    
    Jim
    
325.9How to rebuild a seacockAKO539::KALINOWSKIWed Jul 28 1993 17:3647
    re .8
    
    jim
    
    
    1. get the boat out of the water, or make sure it is sealed from the 
       outside. Once you start, you will have a nice big hole that is
       below the water line.
    
    2. (optional) disconnect the hose attached to the seacock. This will
       allow you to look inside for blockage.
    
    3. If you have the type that are a 1/4 turn  from open to shut, remove
       the cotter pin and the  handle.
    
    4. unscrew the nut behind where the handle was. remove it with the 
       spacer behind it. You will probably need two wrenches. One to hold
       cylinder,and one for the nut.
    
    5. take a hammber and tap on the shaft where the handle is attached.
       the whole middle cylinder will pop out the opposite side.
    
    6. clean all surfaces with either a brass brush or 600 wet dry
       sandpaper until shiney. This includes the spacer. Wire brush the
       the nut threads.
    
    7. coat the surfaces with a good waterproof grease. People here
      recommend water pump grease, but I have used trailer bearing grease
      with no problems. I also grease the threads for the nut.
    
    8. reassemble in the reverse, except don't use the hammer. You will
       notice the spacer has a flat side on it's hole and it will match the
       cylinder's forging. Make sure the flat side of the spacer is against
       the housing.
    
    9. tighten the nut on the outside so that is tight to the point where 
       you can just move turn the handle back and forth. Open and close 4-5
       times and then readjust the tension as it will loosen up once the
       excess grease has found a place to go.
    
    10. Replace that hose clamp, it is probably too old to reuse. Also
        check the hose. Also, make sure you know which way is closed and
        which is opened. It is best to mark it if there is any doubt.
        And finally, make sure you can easily open and close before having
        the congratulatory beer on a job well done.
    
    
325.10Any new info??CHEFS::JORDANChris Jordan, MS BackOffice Centre, UKTue Mar 26 1996 06:548
    Thanks to .9 (if you are still here!).
    
    Looks like very useful information for cleaning seacocks. 
    I was just wondering if there were any new greases (or recommendations
    for greases, or where to get hold of the waterpump greases) since this 
    was written a couple of years ago??
    
    Cheers, Chris
325.1126178::KALINOWSKITue Mar 26 1996 13:1117
    re .10
    
    Chris
    
    Well, I'm here today anyways...
    
       Good question. I asked that one last year at a shop where the
    Wilcox Critterton seacock grease was $9 a cup, and Barnett winch grease
    was $3 a cup. They said very little, though the winch grease has better
    stuff in it. I used the winch grease with no problems (needed it for
    the winch anyways).
    
      I have also used wheel bearing grease FOR TRAILERS. Not the normal stuff
    for cars. It repells salt water much better. I forget whether it was
    Johnson or Mercury outboards that makes the stuff. Again, about $5.
    Available in any shop that sells boats on trailers.
     Never tried waterpump grease. Maybe some else could help here...