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Conference unifix::sailing

Title:SAILING
Notice:Please read Note 2.* before participating in this conference
Moderator:UNIFIX::BERENS
Created:Wed Jul 01 1992
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2299
Total number of notes:20724

1724.0. "Special purpose lights?" by ROYALT::FGZ (Federico Genoese-Zerbi) Fri May 24 1991 16:55


Hello,

I plan on conductiong some night pleasure diving activities this summer,
and I want to have the appropriate lights on.  This means that an
anchor light is, technically, sufficient, but I'd also like to have
the red over white over red lights up (which can be up along with an
anchor light) to keep boats away from me when I have divers down.  Problem
is that the places that sell lights generally only have the standard lights
for sale (running lights, steaming lights, anchor light etc.).  In fact,
I've never even seen any day-shapes besides anchor ball and steaming wedges
(for sailboats that are motor-sailing).

Does anybody have some suggestions for the Boston area?
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1724.1Grab that lobstah!MILKWY::WAGNERTue May 28 1991 14:4715
1724.2At the source?AV8OR::SAMPSONTue May 28 1991 23:169
    	I was thinking about this note the other day when I heard a
    commercial for a dive shop. They claim to have, "All of your diving
    needs". Sounds like you need lights. The only dive shop I remember
    advertising has a phone number of MAD-DIVE, I can't seem to forget
    that, but I don't know whether it's 617, 508 or 800. 
    
    That's where I'd look
    	Geoff
    
1724.3NOT AT A DIVE SHOP TUCKER::SYSTEMThu Jun 06 1991 13:2213
I've been in dive shops in Boston,Somerville,Concord, Cape Ann..haven't seen
any lights for what you want....not sure it would be appropriate anyhow...lights
you describe indicate 'restricted maneuverability by nature of operations' 
which might apply to underwater operations where divers are connected to vessel
via air lines etc., but not SCUBA....besides, those who would recognize RWR
lights, are also those skippers who would give an ordinary anchor light prudent
distance off.....

I would suggest normal anchor light, plus dive float(s)/flag(s) w/red cyalume
stick attached and illuminating them. Perhaps additional lighting such as the
foredeck light(s) to indicate something other than sleep is going on.

Tom Fleischmann  
1724.4Mr. FixitDPDMAI::HOLLENBECKMon Jun 10 1991 21:242
    I've got some Christmas lights (12v.) that would do the trick. From a
    distance they would look exactly as you need them to.
1724.5Hoist a custom dive flag "kite"SELECT::SPENCERTue Jun 11 1991 18:5210
Just a thought:

Assuming this is a sailboat with a mast which has spreaders, if it's not 
too windy, a box-kite-like frame with four translucent dive flags attached 
to the four sides could be hoisted just high enough under the spreader 
light to light them in such a way to be seen from all directions.  Anyone 
traveling on the water at night *ought* to see that quite clearly from a 
safe distance.

J.
1724.6A clarification.ROYALT::FGZFederico Genoese-ZerbiFri Jun 14 1991 20:1124

Re -.3

Yes, R-W-R is restricted in ability to manouver.  According to the rules as
quoted to me by the USCG, this is appropriate for SCUBA, as is the alpha
flag (same meaning).  The reasoning is that the boat is the platform
for support of the divers, and is thus restricted even if  it's not
attached to the divers.  

The point about skippers recognizing the lights is well taken...The USCG
officer I spoke to is a NAUI instructor, and does a bit of night boat diving.
He told me that there are 3 kinds of skippers....type 1 (rare) know what the
lights mean and keep way clear.  Type 2 think (common) think that the lights
mean you need assistance and head directly towards you.  Type 3 skippers
(very common) don't know what the lights mean, but decide to just play it
safe and keep away.  Of course he has no idea what is going through the minds
of people in other boats, but it is an amusing theory.  In total, he
thought it worthwhile to have the lights.

Re -.2
The Christmas light idea is a good one.  I'll look into it.  Thanks.

F.