Conference turris::scandia

    Andrea,
    
    If you have already done so, you might want to read Note 6 in this
    conference about the varieties of Norwegian speech. For some pointers
    to language learning aids, have you read Note 56? 

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    Hi,
      Re Last,  are there any Son of Norway chapters here abouts.
    
    Any 17 May celebrations, or Mid-summer fests?
    
    Wondering!
    
    Dave

    I have many friends that belong to Sons of Norway here in Mass.
    since I dont have any phone numbers with me you can call me or
    send mail to cygnus::olsen

    Martin Minow's description of Norwegian languages would start riots
    in Norway. North and South, Upper class and Lower class has nothing
    to do with it. There are two official languages, Nynorsk and Bokmaal.
    Landsmaal and Riksmaal are names for earlier versions of these
    languages. Bokmaal is spoken in and near the larger cities, and
    is heavily influenced by Danish. Nynorsk is spoken outside the cities.
    
    My native language is Bokmaal, which is the most common language.
    It is probably easiest to learn, and maybe the most useful. Personally,
    I find Nynorsk to be a more interesting language, and I enjoy reading
    Nynorsk literaure, especially poetry. But I'm afraid to speak it,
    since as a Chinese friend of mine says: I'm not afraid of Heaven,
    and I'm not afraid of Hell. The only thing that scares me is
    Cantonese people speaking Mandarin.
    
    Tryggve Fossum
    

  From base note:
    
    > Also, what would noters recom
    > -mend as good books to learn Norwegian from?
    
    From: dgolber@aero.org (David L. Golber)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: Learning a bit norwegian, how ?
    Date: 21 Feb 91 06:13:32 GMT
    Sender: news@aero.org
    Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
 
 >I would like to try to learn some norwegian, but I don't have clues on any
 >good course books. I know there are those travel-language books, but that is
 >only very limited. Does anyone know a title of a good book? Or maybe one of
 >those courses with cassettes and such? I speak dutch, english and german and
 >a little bit of french. Please reply to me via email.
 >Yours,
 >             
 >-Leon
 
    Books:
 
    I like: "Norsk, Nordmenn og Norge", Kathleen Stoker and Odd Haddal,
    University of Wisconsin Press, 1981, ISBN 0-299-08690-9.  I believe
    there are tapes to be had.
 
    The old classic is, I believe, "Spoken Norwegian", by Haugen and
    Chapman, Holt Rinehart and Winston, 1947, ISBN 0-03-019065-7.
 
    Just for controversy, I'll mention "Norwegian/Nynorsk", by Peter
    Hallaraaker, Universitetsforlaget, 1983.  ISBN 82-00-05783-6.
 
    Indespensible is Einar Haugen's "Norwegian-English Dictionary", U of
    Wisconsin Press 1965, ISBN 0-299-03874-2.   This book really makes one
    realize what splendid scholarship can be!
 
    I don't have an English-Norwegian dictionary that I like as well as
    Haugen. What I have is Hornby and Svenkerud, "Oxford Englesk-Norsk
    Ordbok", Cappelens Forlag, 1983.  ISBN 82-02-02257-6.
 
    Best of all is to get a spouse that speaks the language fluently. What? 
    You don't have one?  Well, hurry out and start looking!  :-)
 
    Dave Golber

     From: fredrikm@eik.ii.uib.no (Fredrik Manne)
     Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
     Subject: Re: Learning a bit norwegian, how ?
     Date: 22 Feb 91 09:50:09 GMT
     Sender: usenet@eik.ii.uib.no (Usenet posting account)
     Organization: Institute of Informatics, University of Bergen, Norway
 
    There is now also a computer program available with do it yourself 
    exercises for "Ny i Norge". It should be available from the publishers 
    of the books.
 
    Contact me if you are interested in more information.
 
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    From: janus@ux.acs.umn.edu (Louis Janus)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Re: Learning a bit norwegian, how ?
    Date: 23 Feb 91 16:01:43 GMT
    Organization: University of Minnesota, Academic Computing Services
 
    Cindy Kandolf wrote: einar haugen's dictionary is EXCELLENT, for anyone
    who speaks english reasonably well and needs to look up words in
    norwegian.  unfortunately i've only found norwegian-english, does a
    companion volume exist?
 
    I think that the relatively new (1988) _Engelsk norsk ordbok_ by Willy
    A. Kirkeby, published by Universitetsforlaget, ISBN 82-00-07776-1 is
    very good.  It is certainly not the companion to Haugen's dictionary,
    in the sense that it is aimed primarily at Enlish speakers, but the
    layout and coverage of words and expressions is excedingly fine.  It
    has more than 800 pages.  I recommend it.
 
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    By the way, I edit the Norwegian Teachers' Newsletter, which goes to
    about 175 teachers of Norwegian in North America and Norway.  The next
    issue should be out in a few days (if Pagemaker does its stuff
    appropriately this afternoon).  If you want to be included in the
    mailing list, please send me your snail mail address.  On second
    thought, there's no reason I can't send an e-mail copy to anyone
    interested.
 
         {*^*}
    Louis Janus 
    Dept of Scandinavian Studies
    University of Minnesota
    200 Folwell Hall
    9 Pleasant St. SE
    Minneapolis, MN 55455  USA
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    612/625-9887 (w)
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    From: 37247_1113@uwovax.uwo.ca (Truls Ostbye)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: Norwegian English dictionaries
    Date: 25 Feb 91 14:28:05 GMT
 
> Cindy Kandolf wrote:
> einar haugen's dictionary is EXCELLENT, for anyone who speaks
> english reasonably well and needs to look up words in norwegian.  unfortunately
> i've only found norwegian-english, does a companion volume exist?
> 
> I think that the relatively new (1988) _Engelsk norsk ordbok_ by Willy
> A. Kirkeby, published by Universitetsforlaget, ISBN 82-00-07776-1
> is very good.  It is certainly not the companion to Haugen's dictionary,
> in the sense that it is aimed primarily at Enlish speakers, but the
> layout and coverage of words and expressions is excedingly fine.  It
> has more than 800 pages. 
> Louis Janus 
 
    The best (and biggest) dictionaries between English and Norwegian are:
 
    Kirkeby WA. Norsk Engelsk Ordbok. Kunnskapsforlaget 1986. 1373 p.
 
    Cappelens store Engelsk Norsk ordbok. Cappelen 1988. 1302 p.

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    From: fredrikm@eik.ii.uib.no (Fredrik Manne)
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    Subject: "Ny I Norge" - The Computer Program
    Date: 4 Mar 91 16:10:40 GMT
    Sender: usenet@eik.ii.uib.no (Usenet posting account)
    Organization: Institute of Informatics, University of Bergen, Norway
                          
 
        "Ny I Norge" - The Computer Program.
       ======================================
 
       Demo version available by anonymous ftp!
      -----------------------------------------
 
    If you are learning Norwegian you might be interested to try the new
    computer program with exercises for the book "Ny I Norge". A demo
    program with 10  (out of 170) exercises selected from the original
    program is now available by anonymous ftp.  The exercises are partly
    from the work book of "Ny I Norge" but there are  also some new ones. 
 
    The program runs on any (IBM-compatible) pc.  The original program
    sells for 500Nkr (about $80). Site license costs 1600Nkr (about $265).
    If you are interested in purchasing the program contact:
 
    Fag og Kultur
    Ostensjov. 44
    N-0667 OSLO 6
    NORWAY
 
    Tel +47 2 720640
    Fax +47 2 631572
 
 
    To get hold of the demo version this is what you do:
    ----------------------------------------------------
 
    ftp 129.177.16.57
 
    login as user: anonymous (type return for paswd)
 
    cd pub/NyINorge
 
    binary              /* Important */
 
   get att.bgi
   get cga.bgi
   get egavga.bgi
   get herc.bgi
   get nydemo.exe
   get nydemo.fix
   get nydemo.ovr
   get pc3270.bgi
   get read-me
   get regel1.fix 
   get trip.chr
 
    quit
 
    Download the files to your pc. The program runs if you type nydemo.
    Read the file read-me for setting up the screen and the special
    characters ae,oe and aa.
 
    Please feel free to distribute the program. If you have any
    comments/questions contact me at:
 
    fredrikm@eik.ii.uib.no
 
                                               ` `_______`  `
Fredrik Manne           tel: +47 5 544163       `/_/_|_\_\ `  The Rain In Spain
Dep. of Informatics     fax: +47 5 544199      `     |  oo  `  Falls Mainly In
University of Bergen    e-mail:                 `    |  <  `       Bergen.
N-5020 Bergen, Norway   fredrikm@eik.ii.uib.no `  `  J  --  `

    Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
    From: Louis E. Janus <janu0002@gold.tc.umn.edu>
    Subject: Re: WANTED: Norwegian dictionary
    Sender: news@news.cis.umn.edu (Usenet News Administration)
    Organization: U of Minnesota (sort of)
    Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1993 13:13:21 GMT
 
 
    Kunnskapsforlaget (Oslo) publishes two electronic Norwegian <-> 
    dictionaries.  In each package, you get both the Windows and DOS
    versions.
 
    Engelsk->Norsk.  ISBN 82-573-0393-3.  Has 122,000 oppslagsord and
    176,000  oversettelser (from package back).
 
    Norsk->Engelsk.  ISBN 82-573-0473-5.  Has 52,000 oppslagsord and
    125,000  oversettelser.
 
    Both are edited by Willy Kirkeby, and contain the same information as
    the  printed dictionaries.
 
    People in North America interested in buying these packages can special 
    order them through Sons of Norway Heritage Books, 1455 W. Lake Street, 
    Minneapolis, MN 55408.  800/945-8851; fax: 612/827-0658.  (I teach for 
    SoNs, but do not benefit from their book sales.)
 
    I plan to write a review of these on-line dictionaries for the
    Norwegian Teachers Newsletter in October.  If you are interested in
    receiving a copy, let me know.
 
    Louis Janus
    5136 Sheridan Avenue South
    Minneapolis, MN 55410
    janu0002@gold.tc.umn.edu