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Title:How to Make them Goodies
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Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
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1004.0. "Barbeque: Down South BBQ!" by MYBOAT::HEBERT (Captain Bligh) Tue Feb 23 1988 18:39

I was on the road for several years for a different company. My first
trip down south was enlightening. I like Mom & Pop restaurants and truck
stops, and the first one I hit had a sign advertising BBQ. I asked
"Barbequed what?" and branded my self as a foreigner. I ordered it anyway
and LOVED IT!

I got this recipe from a friend who grew up in Alabama and North
Carolina. It takes a whole Saturday to make, usually, but the whole
family asks for it again and again. 

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                          DOWN SOUTH BAR-B-QUE
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        INGREDIENTS:
        
        Fresh Pork Shoulder - 5 to 7 lb        Covered Pot, 12-14 quart
        10 Whole Cloves                        Broiler Pan
        6 Cloves Garlic                        Aluminum Foil
        2 TBSP Hickory Smoked Salt                                     
        1 tsp Unflavored Meat Tenderizer       (Optional Ingredients:       
        2/3 tsp Cayenne Pepper   (maybe more)          Catsup               
        2 TBSP Louisiana Hot Sauce                     Worcestershire Sauce 
        2 Medium Onions                                A1 Sauce             
        2 Stalks Celery                                Heinz 57 Sauce       
        4 TBSP Lemon Juice                             Chopped Mushrooms  
        1/4 Cup Vinegar                                Pineapple Juice      
        1/4 Cup Dark Soy Sauce                         Molasses   )
        3 8-oz Cans Tomato Paste (maybe more)
        4 TBSP Honey             (maybe more)
        3 to 6 TBSP Liquid Smoke (maybe more)
        
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                                 PROCEDURE
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   Stab the  fat  covering with a sharp knife, to a depth of about 3/4
   inch;   do this about 10 times, spaced about 2" apart.  Stick one
   clove  stem into each stab.  Place the shoulder in a large coverd  pot
   (12  to  14  quart), and cover with water.  Smash the garlic cloves and
   put in the pot, with the  tenderizer  and  half the salt and pepper.
   Cook, just bubbling, 4 to 6 hours.
        
   When the roast is tender and falling apart remove it from the pot and
   set  aside to cool on a cutting board.  Skim the grease from the
   liquid, and discard all but about two quarts of the liquid;   try  to
   retain  as  much  of the residue on the bottom of the  pot  as
   possible - this is very flavorful, and you'll want in in your sauce.
        
   Mince the onion and celery finely;  add it to the liquid, along    with
   the   tomato  paste  and  all  remaining ingredients.  Boil, stirring,
   until it's thick enough to coat your spoon.  Sample the sauce from time
   to time, and adjust the seasonings.   More  Liquid  Smoke,  Honey, and
   Cayenne can be added during  this  process;  the optional ingredients
   could be added now except for the mushrooms, which should not be boiled.
        
   While it's boiling, separate the meat from the bones, and remove
   connecting  tissue.    Find  and  remove all  the cloves.  Keep some of
   the soft fat (not  the outer skin), and chop it coarsely with the pork
   meat.  Don't  chop the meat any finer than about 3/4 inch to an inch in
   length.
        
   PAM  the bottom of your broiler pan, and arrange the pork in  an  even
   layer  throughout the pan.  It should be an inch or two thick.  Ladle
   your sauce onto the meat until all is covered.  Next, cover the  entire
   broiler pan with aluminum foil, and put into the oven at  350  degrees
   for about  20  minutes.  Remove the foil, and return  the pan to  the
   oven for about 10 minutes. Serve on soft buns, and provide plenty of
   napkins and cold drinks.
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1004.2WHERE TO FIND LIQUID SMOKE?NYOA::MANZOFri Feb 26 1988 17:494
    SOUNDS GREAT!  I WANT TO TRY IT - WHERE CAN I FIND LIQUID SMOKE
    THAT'S CALLED FOR IN THE RECIPE?.  
    
    THANKS, AMY
1004.3Little bottlesAKOV88::BROWNThe more the merrier!Wed Mar 02 1988 15:2712
Re:  < Note 1004.2 by NYOA::MANZO >
                        -< WHERE TO FIND LIQUID SMOKE? >-


Here in Mass. it is in little bottles like Gravy Master or
Kitchen Bouquet (if you're familiar with them), usually in the
same section as Tabasco and Worcestershire sauce and Gravy
Master.  I know Alexander's (Nashua, NH) has it, if you get
desperate let me know and I'm sure we can arrange something!


Jan  who_can't_wait_to_try_this_BBQ
1004.4Liquid Smok{BAGELS::GLENNWed Mar 02 1988 18:508
    	If you can't find it with the Kitchen Bouquet, try the "gourmet"
    section of your local supermarket.  If I can find it way out here
    in Fitchburg, then you should have no trouble.
    
    	Good Luck.
    
    
    	Pam (Glenn's wife)
1004.5A word of warningCALVA::WOLINSKIuCoder sans FrontieresThu Mar 03 1988 12:409
    
     I would go easy on the liquid smoke and start with about 1/2 the
    amount called for and taste the sauce before adding anymore. It
    has a VERY strong taste and you can very easily ruin dishes with
    too much of it.
    
    
      -mike
    
1004.7EXIT26::VERNAGLIAMon Mar 14 1988 16:062
    Star Market has liquid smoke, it is by the meat department
    
1004.8Hot Sauce...EXIT26::VERNAGLIAFri Mar 18 1988 15:182
    What's the Louisiana Hot Sauce? where do you find that one?
    
1004.10Where to find Louisiana..HOCUS::MANZOThu Mar 24 1988 17:525
    Louisiana Hot Sauce should be found where other hot sauces/barbecue
    sauces are found i.e., where Tobasco sauce is.  It shouldn't be
    hard to find in the regular grocery stores.
    
    
1004.11try Mexican food sectionGENRAL::KILGORECOME ON SPRING!Mon Mar 28 1988 03:097
    In Colorado, at least in the Kings Sooper I shop at, you will find
    Durkees Hot Sauce as well as Tabasco sauce in the Mexican food section.
    When I used to work in a grocry store it was in with the mustard
    and catsup but someone came up with a wild idea and changed things
    around!  Every store is set up different!
    
    Judy
1004.12Texas Barbecued BeefBOXTOP::JANCOURTZWed Apr 27 1988 13:4456
    TEXAS BEEF BARBECUE
    
    I take issue with the person who implied Texas barbecue is inferior.
    It may be DIFFERENT from deep-south pork barbecue, but it ain't
    any worse.  In fact, the worst barbecue I ever had was just...
    WONDERFUL.
    
    Most Texans would insist the only way to barbecue is to go and
    slaughter a whole cow and roast it all day on a spit, using a patient
    Mexican equipped with a bucket of sauce and a string mop to baste
    the thing.  Here's my Texas girlfriend's substitute version done
    with only PART of the cow in a normal oven.  It's very easy and
    amazingly good.
    
    1 tablespoon salt
    2 tablespoons pepper
    2 tablespoons Dijon or dry mustard
    3 tablespoons paprika
    8 pounds beef brisket (you'll probably get two four-pounders)
    1/2 cup (1 stick) butter
    1/4 cup vegetable oil--NOT olive oil
    2-1/2 cups cider vineger
    3/4 cup sugar
    1/2 cup Worcestershire sauce
    3 large onions, chopped fine (4 to 5 cups chopped onion)
    6 cloves garlic, minced
    1-2 tablespoons Tabasco sauce 
    
    1.  Rub the salt, pepper, mustard and paprika over the meat.  Melt
    the butter and oil in a large pot and brown the meat in it (don't
    worry if it burns in spots--adds to the flavor.)  Remove the meat
    to a large casserole or roasting pan with a tightly-fitting cover.
    (I use a big turkey-roaster.  You can just use a roasting pan and
    cover everything with foil when the time comes.)
    
    2.  Pour off the excess fat from the browning pan and dump in
    everything else (vinegar, etc.)  Bring to a boil and simmer a few
    minutes, stirring to get up all the burned goodies on the bottom.
    
    3.  Pour the sauce over the meat, cover tightly, and bake in for
    four hours at 300 degrees F.  (No need to check, baste, or fuss
    during this period.)  Remove cover, turn the briskets over, and
    bake UNCOVERED for another 45 minutes to brown the meat and reduce
    the sauce a bit.
    
    4.  Serving:  Slice it and serve with the sauce on the side.  A
    good Texas-style meal would include potato salad, baked beans, corn
    bread, maybe a bit of cole slaw (we're not talking diet food here.)
    For a fancier occasion, slice the meat and arrange it on a serving
    platter, dribble a bit of sauce over it, and sprinkle sliced radishes,
    scallions, and lime wedges over it.
    
    This is even better reheated the second day, shredded and served
    on Wonder-bread style soggy old buns.  European visitors go absolutely
    nuts over this (they think it's "real american".)
    
1004.13Best BBQ SandwichesSCOMAN::STOOKERWed Apr 27 1988 17:5724
    I grew up in South Carolina and the BBQ pork roast that I grew up
    is really different than any of these recipes that I see here.
    
    My mother, who cooks great BBQ, would buy a pork shoulder roast 4-6
    lbs.  She would then preheat the oven to 350-375 (not sure which)
    and would then place the roast into a roasting pan.  The only thing
    that she would use for seasoning would be vinegar and red pepper.
    She would baste the roast several times during cooking.  (The worst
    part of this is that the smell of the vinegar during cooking is
    so strong and it will bring tears to your eyes, so you need to do
    this when the weather is nice and you can open up the doors and
    windows to get fresh air)  She would cook the roast until it was
    tender.
    
    She would make a homeade BBQ sauce that consisted of Catsup, Vinegar,
    Worcestershire(?sp) sauce, red pepper and butter. This would be
    heated up and can be made as spicy as you like. 
    
    We ate this BBQ as sandwiches.   We would slice the BBQ real thin
    and place on bread.  On top of the BBQ, we would place cole slaw
    (yes, cole slaw) and then on top of this we would pour BBQ sauce
    on top.  Top with another slice of bread and you have the messiest,
    best tasting BBQ sandwich you'll ever taste.   [Of course, this
    is a matter of opinion, and what you grew up with]