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Title:How to Make them Goodies
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Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
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167.0. "Delicatessen rye bread? " by SPRITE::OBERLIN () Mon Aug 26 1985 11:37

Does anyone have a recipe for delicatessen/Jewish rye bread?  
Even with all the the bread books I have, I can't find one anywhere.   

Thanks in advance, 

-Barbara 

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167.1Betty's favorite sour ryeTIGEMS::RYDERAl Ryder, aquatic sanitary engineerSat Nov 21 1987 10:2770
    This is a recipe for Betty's favorite sour rye, nearly capable of
    converting a self-disciplined moderate into a glutton.  I found the 
    directions in the Boston Globe in May 1978, probably in Wednesday's
    food section.  I then made it frequently as a treat for my wife;
    recently I have started to make it again. 

    Lacking the original instructions, I have written the recipe below 
    in two parts --- exactly and somewhat cryptically as I had recorded 
    it in the cover of a bread book and then some comments for those not 
    used to baking with sourdough. 

   Starter ---> Sponge ---> Dough ---> Bake

    Starter:

	1	tsp	yeast
	1/2	cup	water
	3/4	cup	rye flour

	80 degrees for 2 days

    Sponge:

	2	tbs	yeast
	1	cup	water
	2	cups	rye flour
			starter

	three hours or more

    Dough:

	5	cups	white flour
	2	tbs	caraway seeds
	2	tsp	salt
	1 +/-	cup	water 
			sponge

	stiff dough

    Bake:

	425 for 10 minutes with a pan of water below it

	400 for 25 minutes without water

	butter the crust while the bread cools

    Starter:

    The laconic instructions above don't produce the best bread the first
    time --- the starter should be rather mature, not fresh.  And make
    twice the quantity indicated so you can use half, replenish half
    immediately, and have half as a culture to kick off the replenishment.
    The usual starter precautions: glass or plastic container only 1/3
    full, not quite covered, refrigerated after the replenishments have
    soured, replenished even if you haven't baked lately, else frozen. 

    Sponge:

    Overnight in a warm place in a large bowl 

    Dough:

    Make it stiff enough not to flatten after shaping.  Slow to rise.  
    Protect from drying; my last batch had a Kelvar crust. 

    Bread:

    Delicious and aromatic.  Very, very dense.   Addictive.
167.2Buttermilk Rye Whole Wheat BreadTLE::EIKENBERRYDon't confuse activity with productivityMon Aug 26 1991 22:5649
    I just tried this rye bread this weekend - it's very good!
    
		    Buttermilk Rye Whole Wheat Bread

	    1 cup rye flour
	    1 cup whole-wheat flour
	    1 package dry yeast
	    1 T wheat germ
	    1 T caraway seeds
	    2 tsp salt
	    1 cup buttermilk, room temperature
	    3 T molasses
	    2 T vegetable oil or other shortening
	    1 cup bread or all-purpose flour

In a large mixing bowl combine the rye and whole-wheat flours, yeast, wheat
germ, caraway, and salt.  Mix well.  In a saucepan heat the buttermilk,
molasses, and oil or shortening until hot (120-130 degrees).  Pour into the
flour mixture.  Blend by hand with 100 strong strokes of a wooden spoon, or 3
minutes at medium speed in the mixer with a flat beater.

Gradually stir in the white flour to make a firm but not stiff dough.

Place the dough on a floured work surface, or keep in the mixer bowl under the
dough hook, and knead for 8 minutes.  If the dough continues to be sticky, add
sprinkles of white flour - but better too little flour than too much.  Don't
make a cannonball. 

Place the dough in a greased bowl, cover tightly with plastic wrap, and leave
until doubled in bulk, about 1 hour.

On a lightly floured work surface, roll or pat the dough into a 14 x 7-inch
rectangle.  Starting with the short side, roll up tightly, pressing the dough
into a roll with each turn.  Pinch the edges and ends to seal.  Place in
a greased 9x5-inch loaf pan. [I used an 8x4 because the quantity of dough
seemed too small for a 9x5]  Or else shape the dough into a ball and press
slightly to make a rounded loaf.  Place on a greased baking sheet.

Loosely cover the pan with a length of wax paper or plastic wrap and let rise
until doubled, about 1 to 1 1/2 hours.

Preheat the oven to 375 degrees about 20 minutes before baking.

Place the pan in the oven and bake for 35 to 40 minutes, until the loaf is a
rich, dark brown and sounds hollow when tapped.

Remove the bread from the pan or sheet and leave to cool on a metal rack before
serving.