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Title:How to Make them Goodies
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Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
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2802.0. "Help! Too much pepper" by EMI::HOTT () Fri Dec 14 1990 02:41

    
    Does anyone have any helpful tips on how to reduce the taste of
    pepper in a soup?
    
    I usually use course ground pepper but accidently used cracked.
    I was surprised how much more potent it was.  Are there different
    types of black pepper with different potencies?
    
    					Thanks,
    						Donna
    
    P.S.  I just read a tip (probably in this file) on reducing an 
    excess of salt in a soup or stew by adding a potato during cooking
    and later removing the potato.  I sure hope there's a similar tip
    for too much pepper.
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2802.1RANGER::CANNOYTrue initiation never ends.Fri Dec 14 1990 03:559
    Gosh, I didn't think it was possible to have *too* much pepper in soup.
    :-)
    
    I have no idea how to reduce the flavor of pepper except to dilute the
    soup. And yes there are many different kinds of pepper of varying
    strengths and flavors. I use mostly Malabar Black and Tellicherry but
    also grains of Paradise and pink and white peppercorns. I prefer
    freshly cracked or even whole peppercorns in soups, but I *really* love
    pepper.
2802.2Make hot & sour?RANGER::PESENTIOnly messages can be draggedFri Dec 14 1990 10:383
    I can't think of how to reduce the pepper, but you could add vinegar,
    and call it "hot & sour"... 'course that probably wouldn't help if you
    started out with cream of mushroom or something like that.
2802.3SWAM3::THOMAS_TAhow do you think it feelsFri Dec 14 1990 21:045
    I was always taught to put the pepper in last because the
    taste will "cook out"... 
    
    oops,
    cheyenne
2802.4More on PepperEMI::HOTTSat Dec 15 1990 19:4228
    Thanks for the replies.  I thought I'd share a little more information
    with you.
    
    What I made was a Cassoulet -- white beans with ham hocks and kielbasa
    etc. -- and the pepper flavor was so intense that it was impossible
    to eat and I LIKE PEPPER.  
    
    So, I decided to dilute it into Bean Soup -- it helped but is still
    very peppery.  I've gotten used to it and rather like it but no
    one else will eat it and I have a kettle full.
    
    So when I tire of it, I think I'll try adding rice and turn it into
    a beans and rice dish.  I refuse to throw it out; just seems too
    wasteful.
    
    Anyway, some things I found out about the pepper.  The coarse grind
    pepper I use is Schillings (I know Jeff Smith keeps telling me to
    fresh grind it too but ... ) and it's a Lampong variety from Sumatra.
    The Cracked Black Pepper is Spice Islands and it says Java on the
    label.  So, in addition to using the different grind, I've apparently
    used different black peppers as well.
    
    Another tip with regards to pepper that I just discovered is that
    alcohol will greatly intensify the flavor.  The recipe called for
    sherry, which I forgot -- thank heavens.
    
                       		Thanks again,
    					Donna
2802.5BRABAM::PHILPOTTCol I F 'Tsingtao Dhum' PhilpottMon Dec 17 1990 09:429
    
    You can ameleorate the heat of peppers and chillis with sugar (hence a
    sweet drink like cola or seven up is better than water and infinitely
    better than beer if you burn your mouth).
    
    you could experiment by adding a little sugar to some of the soup when
    you reheat it...
    
    /. Ian .\
2802.6Just a thoughtREORG::AITELRoad to hell is paved with chocolateMon Dec 17 1990 14:014
    When all else fails, and you are really good and tired of the soup,
    it probably will freeze just fine.
    
    --Louise
2802.7I think she's got it !SHIRE::DETOTHTue Dec 18 1990 07:446
    I think Louise (-1) may have hit the jackpot...  I recall that some of
    my more spicey dishes had lost considerable flavor  after spending
    weeks (months ?) in the freezer... Maybe that would do the trick ?
    
    The only other thing I can think of is to make a second batch -
    omitting the pepper and then mixing the two batches together...?
2802.8cayenne pepper gets hotter when frozenDSTEG2::HUGHESThu Jan 03 1991 15:215
    When I freeze foods with red pepper they seem to get hotter in the
    freezer.
    
    Linda