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Title:How to Make them Goodies
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Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4127
Total number of notes:31160

623.0. "WOK: Choosing One" by ROYCE::WANTJE () Thu Jun 04 1987 12:50

    I am in the process of buying a WOK. I would like any opinions on
    type, style, and best material for a WOK. Also, any suggestions
    for initially seasoning and long term care.
    
                              Ralph Wantje
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623.1ASIA::MCLEMANWe're only in it for the moneyThu Jun 04 1987 14:099
    I always suggest a steel wok. (Not stainless) It gives a good hot
    spot, and if seasoned properly, will always saty in good shape.
    To season, heat the wok, use peanut oil to season, and repeat.
    NEVER put it in a dishwasher. If it is seasoned properly, just
    washing it with hot water will clean it. Always store it on it's
    side. this prevents rusting.
    
    					Jeff
    
623.3eclectic woksCOOKIE::CHESNEYThu Jun 04 1987 16:397
    I've only had experience with a teflon coated electric wok and was
    not really happy with it for stir frying. I now use a steel one.
    The electric ones are nice tho if you want to do something like
    hot pot and serve at the table.
    
    greg
    
623.4Skillet works sometimesYIPPEE::GLANTZMikeFri Jun 05 1987 10:2118
    A very good friend has a teflon-coated electric, and she prefers it to
    anything else. Having eaten her food, I can say she's mastered it
    pretty well. The choice, then, seems to be based on personal
    preference. 
    
    Curious experience: We bought a steel wok many years ago and learned
    how to use it (got it all nicely seasoned). We're happy. Then, one day
    we wanted to use it, but it was packed with our belongings in transit
    during a move. We did, however, have some of our stuff with us,
    including a large Farberware Advantage skillet (similar to the stuff by
    Cuisinart), and used that instead, at very high heat. Worked better
    than the wok. That might just be due to my own style of stir-frying,
    but, since then, we've left the wok in its box. The moral of the story
    is: Before buying a wok, try your favorite large skillet, following the
    directions for wok cooking (i.e., very high heat, fast cooking). If
    you're not satisfied with the result, then buy a wok. 
    
    - Mike
623.5My WOKPARSEC::PESENTIJPMon Jun 08 1987 23:5926
The problems I have encountered with electric woks is that they never get hot 
enough.  I use a steel wok, and after washing, I heat it on the stove, and 
wipe the inside with oil.  A seasoned wok looks black inside, NOT like the day 
it was purchased.  Never scour a seasoned wok, hot water and a stiff brush 
with no soap (ok once in a while I use a drop, but only a drop).

When I had an electric stove, the ring was a problem, since it prevented quick 
recovery time on the heat, so I balanced the wok in the dimple at the center 
of the heating coil.  Now, with a gas stove, I have one burner adjusted for 
high heat (NOT FOR COOKING SAUCES), and use the ring successfully.  By the 
way, my wok has wooden handles.  I worried about them at first, but they 
haven't even browned yet.  Potholders probably get much closer to the heat 
than the handles, so don't worry too much about wooden handles versus metal.

A good test for a steel wok is to pick up the sample by its handles and push 
your hands together.  If the wok looks like you could fold it in half with a 
little more pressure, pass it by.  If it is too thin, you will get very uneven 
heat distribution.

I have stir fried in an electric skillet in a pinch, but I miss the well in 
the middle that allows you to evaporate the excess liquid.  Solution:  prop 2 
legs of the skillet on a cutting board.  Not perfect, since the liquid pools 
away from the heat, but at least the food doesn't boil.

						     
							- JP
623.6carbon steel woks are bestCYGNUS::BOUDREAUwok cookingTue Jun 09 1987 17:3119

I use my wok at least twice a week.  I bought a carbon steel wok which has
the most uniform heating.  If you have a gas stove, it's best to use the
wok with the collar ring.  I have an electric stove and place the wok 
directly on the coils.  I read an article recently that those new stoves
which have a slightly raised burner surface which look like stone, do
not conduct heat well for woks.  In that case, and only then, would I
purchase an electric wok.  As already mentioned, they don't get hot enough.

As with .1 always store it on it's side.  and NEVER EVER put soap in it
after it's first washing.  The Frugal Gourmet gives some great instructions
on how to season a wok.  If food is stuck, simply heat the wok again
with a drop of oil and then use a nonabrasive plastic scrubber to loosen
the food.  I find it also works best to heat the wok so that a drop of
water disappears instantly when dropped inside, before adding the
peanut oil.

Happy cooking.
623.7SWSNOD::RPGDOCDennis (the Menace) Ahern 223-5882Tue Jun 09 1987 17:466
    About ten years ago I bought a large, restaurant-guage aluminum wok and
    have used it 2 or 3 times a month ever since.  We have a gas stove and
    the heat distribution is excellent.  We don't bother with seasoning and
    have no fear of scouring when necessary. 
    
    
623.8Aluminum!PARSEC::PESENTIJPTue Jun 09 1987 19:255
re .-1

Yes, but will you enjoy the aluminum poisoning?    
    

623.9Expensive electric woks are goodDELNI::SILKTue Jun 09 1987 23:096
I have a heavy stainless steel (not Teflon) wok by Aria and haven't experienced
any problems getting enough heat as other people describe. The instructions said
I could scour it with an abrasive cleaner, and I do. I use it a lot and like it
a lot, but it was very expensive (a gift).  From what I've read, you'd do just
as well with a cheaper non-electric one.  You might want to read "The Frugal
Gourmet" on woks, as a previous note mentioned. 
623.10Another vote for carbon steel!!NEDVAX::SNIDERLarry K. SniderWed Jun 10 1987 18:4519
    Buy a good carbon steel wok; follow the directions shipped with it by
    the manufacturer for seasoning the wok; and finally follow the
    manufacturers directions for cleaning (usually a bamboo brush and hot
    water is all that I have found necessary) and dry thoroughly by putting
    back on the stove for a short time.  As far as storing: wipe the inside
    of the wok with a drop or two of peanut oil and store in a paper bag.
    
    If the food sticks, which usually means the wok is not hot enough
    or you have put to much food in to cook (and as a result cooled
    the wok), clean it before cooking any other food.  What you want
    to avoid it turning the burnt food to carbon.
    
    Wok's are great.  Food cooks quick and the cleanup is a snap.
    
    A great partner to the wok is a bamboo steamer.  Buy as big
    a one as you can find, like big enough to put a heat proof dish
    inside.  Cleanup is a snap here too!  And the food taste great.
                    
    Twenty million Chinese can't be wrong.
623.12USE THE FRYING PAN!!!CGHUB::VANPATTENKathy Van Patten @MK Learning CenterTue Jun 16 1987 18:004
    WHY DON'T YOU USE A FRYING PAN...IT'S REALLY JUST AS GOOD!!!
    
    
    
623.13Yes, but you can use a frypan as a helmetPARSEC::PESENTIJPTue Jun 16 1987 23:2210
re .-1

I USED TO THINK THAT, TOO!

Then I lowered the volume and realized that in the thousands of years that the 
billions and billions of oriental people have been cooking, they would have 
started to use a flat skillet, if had any advantages over a wok.

						     
							- JP
623.14So why don't we use spears?PSTJTT::TABERReliefe is just a NEXT UNSEEN awayWed Jun 17 1987 15:1516
>Then I ...realized that in the thousands of years that the 
>billions and billions of oriental people have been cooking, they would have 
>started to use a flat skillet, if had any advantages over a wok.

I depends on if they were cooking in campfires or on a range.  If you go 
into kitchens of chinese restaurants run by chinese, then you'll most 
often find flat-bottomed woks with a single long handle on the side.  
The sides are still wide and rounded  like a wok, but it bears as much 
resemblance to a frying pan as a wok.  The wok mystique is a lot like 
the cast iron mystique -- small basis in fact and a large dose of 
religion.  

A large frying pan can do most of what you'd want a wok for, it's just 
more expensive and doesn't have the same atmosphere.

					>>>==>PStJTT (who uses both)
623.15Wok this way....SQM::AITELHelllllllp Mr. Wizard!Wed Jun 17 1987 17:0217
    Well, the reasons I continue to use my wok are:
    
    	1: it's thin and heats up faster than my frying pans.  I can
    		use a lower heat under it.  One of the reasons they're
    		still used in oriental countries is that fuel is VERY
    		scarce - with that many people the place'd be a desert
    		if they didn't limit fuel use as much as possible.
    	2: it's deep and shaped for stirring.  I can stir vigorously
    		and the food doesn't go over the edge.  I can push some
    		stuff that's nearly done up on the side while I cook
    		something else in the bottom.  I can push everything
    		up while I put corn-starch/arrowroot in the sauce and
    		whisk it and let it thicken.  Then I can push the food
    		back down and stir it into the sauce to coat it.
	3: it's fun and different.  (so much for "scientific" reasons...)
    
    --Louise
623.16West coast wokersWCSM::PURMALBig is more than small is lessWed Jun 17 1987 22:558
    re: .14
    
        Out here in Mountain View, CA I've noticed that most of the
    kitchens in the chinese restaurants here use woks.  If you ask most
    people where the restaurant chinese food is better they'll say here
    on the west coast, except for New York's Chinatown.
    
    ASP
623.17Runny-Creamy GarlicSTRATA::SALZMANNDon't mess with TexasThu Jul 08 1993 17:475
    Anybody know how to make creamy garlic dressing? There's this
    place back home that uses olive oil instead of sour cream 
    or whatever they usually use....anyone??
    
    					Jeff
623.18Herbs/Essential OilsMROA::ROCHEFORDWed Jul 19 1995 16:554
    Can anyone tell me if there is a notes file focusing on HERBS  or
    ESSENTIAL OILS?  I am aware of the GARDEN file but I did not find much
    information. Thanks for your help!
    -Danielle
623.19Xref -- KP7, etc.TP011::KENAHDo we have any peanut butter?Fri Jul 28 1995 13:323
    There are several notes on essential oils in CLO::MASSAGE.
    
    					andrew