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384.0. "NUTRITION and NUTRITION LABELING" by HECTOR::RICHARDSON () Mon Oct 20 1986 20:41

Nutritional content of oriental ingredients:

This was in the Wok Talk newsletter.  Numbers given are for 100g of food in the
left side of each column and for 1/4 lb of food in the right column.  The
carbohydrates column does not include fiber.  I relaize that in a couple of 
cases there is a discrepancy between the two values for a particular columnb,
but I do not know which is the correct value.  I also do not know why there are
no calories listed for fungi and algae.  This was the entire list as printed;
I too wish they had included common condiments such as hoisin sauce, but they
didn't.

food 		         calories protein(g) fats(g) carbohydrates(g) sodium(mg)
                          
PORK (with fat attached):
 picnic shoulder         217  246 17.5 19.8 15.1 17.1 0.3   0.3      50       57
 Boston butt             283  321 16.4 18.6 22.6 25.6 0.2   0.2      40       45
 Loin                    314  356 16.5 18.7 25.7 29.1 0.5   0.6      40       45
 Belly                   417  473 13.2 15.0 38.3 43.4 0.3   0.3      39       44
 Inside ham              158  179 20.4 23.1  7.4  8.4 0.5   0.6      31       35
 Outside ham             233  264 17.8 20.2 16.6 18.8 0.4   0.5      50       57
 Fillet                  134  152 21.5 24.4  4.5  5.1 0.3   0.3      40       45

VEGETABLES:
 Chinese cabbage, raw     12   14  1.1  1.2  0.1  0.1 1.9   2.2       5      5.7
 Eggplant                 18   20  1.1  1.2  0.1  0.1 3.4   3.9       1      1.1
 Cucumber, meat, raw      11   12  1.0  1.1  0.2  0.2 1.6   1.8       2      2.3
 Long scallions:
  White part              27   31  1.1  1.2  0.1  0.1 5.9   6.7       1      1.1
  Green part              25   28  1.7  1.9  0.2  0.2 4.6   5.2       1      1.1
 Regular scallions, raw   36   41  1.9  2.2  0.0  0.0 8.0   9.1       1      1.1
 Chives, green parts, raw 28   32  2.5  2.8  0.1  0.1 4.7   5.3       1      1.1
 Radish, long white, raw  18   20  0.8  0.9  0.1  0.1 3.4   3.9      14       16
 Burdock root, raw        76   86  2.8  3.2  0.1  0.1 16.1 18.4       6      6.8
 Lotus root, raw          66   75  2.1  2.4  0.0  0.0 15.1 17.1      28       32
 Bamboo shoots, raw       34   39  3.6  4.1  0.1  0.1  6.0  6.8       0        0
 Trefoil, stalks & leaves 19   22  1.0  1.1  0.1  0.1  3.5  4.0       8      9.1
 Snow peas, pods, raw     31   35  3.2  3.6  0.1  0.1  5.5  6.2       1      1.1
 Pumpkin, raw             36   41  1.3  1.5  0.1  0.1  7.9  8.9       1      1.1
  (winter squash)
 Beefsteak plant, leaves  35   40  3.8  4.3  0.1  0.1  5.5  6.2       1      1.1
 Ginger root:
  Raw                     31   35  0.9  1.0  0.1  0.1  6.3  7.1       4      4.5
  Pickled                 35   40  0.5  0.6  0.1  0.1  7.5  8.5     370      420
 Red pepper, dried       328  372 14.0 16.0 11.4 12.9 23.1 26.2      16       18
  (excluding seeds)
 Gourd strips, dried     264  299  7.1  8.1  0.2  0.2 59.8 67.8       3      3.4

FUNGI:
 Shiitake mushrooms:
  Raw                      ?    ?  2.0  2.3  0.3  0.3  5.3  6.0       3      3.4
  Dried (Chinese black)    ?    ? 20.3 23.0  3.4  3.9 52.9 60.0      19       22

ALGAE:
 Laver:
  Dried                    ?    ? 38.8 44.0  1.9  2.2 39.5 44.8     120      136
  Toasted                  ?    ? 40.9 46.4  2.0  2.3 41.7 47.3     130      136
  Seasoned and dried       ?    ? 38.4 43.5  2.8  3.2 39.7 45.0    2200     2495
 Kelp, dried               ?    ?  8.0  9.1  2.0  2.3 54.3 61.6    2700     3062
 Seaweed, a variety:
  Raw                      ?    ?  1.9  2.2  0.2  0.2  3.8  4.3     610      692
  Dried                    ?    ? 15.0 17.0  3.2  3.6 35.3 40.0    6100     6917
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384.1more of the sameHECTOR::RICHARDSONWed Oct 22 1986 12:38113
Aha, there was more information to be had!  That was only the final page of
the nutrition information.  So, here's the rest of it.  It says that the
information is based on Standard Tables of Food Composition in Japan,
fourth rvised edition, 1982, Resources Council, Science and Technology Center,
Government of Japan.

food:                         calories: protein: fats:   carbohydrates:  sodium:
GRAINS
rice, wetland paddy
 brown, unpolished            351 398   7.4 8.4  3.0  3.4 71.8  81.4     2   2.3
 white, polished              356 404   6.8 7.7  1.3  1.5 75.5  85.6     2   2.3
wheat flour
 soft, 1st grade (cake flour) 368 417   8.0 9.1  1.7  1.9 75.7  85.8     2   2.3
 medium, 1st grade            368 417   9.0 10.2 1.8  2.0 74.6  84.6     2   2.3
  (all-purpose)
 hard, 1st grade (bread flour)366 415  11.7 13.3 1.8  2.0 71.4  81.0     2   2.3
wheat noodles, raw
 uncooked                     280 318   6.8  7.7 1.3  1.5 57.0  64.6   600   680
 boiled                       101 115   2.5  2.8 0.5  0.6 20.3  23.0    45    51
wheat noodles, dried
 uncooked                     358 406   8.9 10.1 1.8  2.0 72.3  82.0  1200  1361
 boiled                        93 105   2.4  2.7 0.5  0.6 18.6  21.2   120   136
wheat noodled, dried, special varieties
 uncooked                     363 412   9.7 11.0 1.9  2.2 72.4  82.1  1200  1361
 boiled                       128 145   3.4  3.9 0.7  0.8 25.4  28.8   120   136
buckwheat noodles, raw
 uncooked                     274 311   9.8 11.1 1.9  2.2 54.2  61.5     1   1.1
 boiled                       132 150   4.8  5.4 1.0  1.1 25.8  29.3     2   2.3
buckwheat noodles, dried
 uncooked                     360 408  13.6 15.4 2.6  2.9 70.2  79.6     2   2.3
 boiled                       116 132   4.5  5.1 0.9  1.0 22.3  25.3     2   2.3

POTATOES AND STARCHES
sweet potatoes, raw           123 139   1.2  1.4 0.2  0.2 28.7  32.5    13  14.7
potatoes, white, raw           77  87   2.0  2.3 0.2  0.2 16.8  19.1     2   2.3
taro, raw                      60  68   2.6  2.9 0.2  0.2 12.3  13.9     1   1.1
potato starch                 330 374   0.1  0.1 0.1  0.1 81.6  92.5     2   2.3
"devil's tongue" root starch
 block form                     ?   ?   0.1  0.1   ?    ?  2.2   2.5    10    11
 noodle form                    ?   ?   0.2  0.2   ?    ?  2.9   3.3    10    11
mung bean starch noodles      345 391   0.2  0.2 0.4  0.5 84.6  95.9    16    18

SUGARS AND SWEETENERS:
white sugar                   384 435     ?    ?   ?    ? 99.2 112.5     2   2.3

FATS AND OILS:
vegetable oil (average)       921 1044    ?    ? 100.0 113.4 ?     ?     ?     ?
margarine                     759  861  0.3  0.3 82.1 93.1 0.5   0.6   800   907
butter, salted                745  845  0.6  0.7 81.0 91.9 0.2   0.2   750   851

NUTS AND SEEDS:
ginkgo nuts
 raw                          172  195  4.7  5.3  1.7  1.9 34.5 39.1     1   1.1
 boiled                       165  187  4.3  4.9  1.3  1.5 34.0 38.6     3   3.4
sesame seeds
 dried                        578  655 19.8 22.5 51.9 58.9 15.3 17.4     2   2.3
 roasted                      599  679 20.3 23.0 54.2 61.5 15.3 17.4     2   2.3

BEANS:
soybeans, whole, dried        417  473 35.3 40.0 19.0 21.5 23.7 26.9     1   1.1
bean curd
 cotton-strained               77   87  6.8  7.7  5.0  5.7  0.8  0.9     3   3.4
 silk-strained                 58   66  5.0  5.7  3.3  3.7  1.7  1.9     4   4.5
 grilled                       88  100  7.8  8.8  5.7  6.5  1.0  1.1     4   4.5
bean curd, thin, deep-fried   388  440 18.6 21.1 33.1 37.5  2.8  3.2    10  11.3
fermented soybean paste
 rice malt-soybean paste,     217  246  9.7 11.0  3.0  3.4 36.7 41.6  2400  2722
  sweet
 rice malt-soybean paste,     186  211 13.1 14.9  5.5  6.2 19.1 21.7  5100  5783
  dark yellow
 barley malt-soybean paste    198  225  9.7 11.0  4.3  4.9 28.3 32.1  4200  4763
 soybean malt-soybean paste   217  246 17.2 19.5 10.5 11.9 11.3 12.8  4300  4876

FISH AND SHELLFISH:
sardines, raw                 213  242 19.2 21.8 13.8 15.6  0.5  0.6   360   408
bonito, raw                   129  146 25.8 29.3  2.0  2.3  0.4  0.5    44    50
salmon, raw                   167  189 20.7 23.5  8.4  9.5  0.1  0.1    95   108
mackerel, raw                 239  271 19.8 22.5 16.5 18.7  0.1  0.1    80    91
sea bream, red, raw           112  127 19.0 21.5  3.4  3.9    ?    ?    70    79
codfish, raw                   70   79 15.7 17.8  0.4  0.5  0.0  0.0   130   147
yellowtail, raw               257  291 21.4 24.3 17.6 20.0  0.3  0.3    32    36
tuna, blue-black, raw
 lean meat                    133  151 28.3 32.1  1.4  1.6  0.1  0.1    50    57
 oily meat                    322  365 21.4 24.3 24.6 27.9  0.1  0.1    43    49
hard-shelled clams, raw        49   56  8.3  9.4  1.0  1.1  1.2  1.4   400   454
clams, raw                     60   68 10.4 11.8  0.9  1.0  1.9  2.2   500   567
scallops, raw                  77   87 13.8 15.6  1.2  1.4  1.8  2.0   250   284
squid, raw                     76   86 15.6 17.7  1.0  1.1  0.1  0.1   200   227
prawns, tiger, raw (shrimp)    93  105 20.5 23.2  0.7  0.8  0.0  0.0   140   159
crab, raw                      82   93 18.8 21.3  0.3  0.3  0.0  0.0   260   295
octopus, raw                   76   86 16.4 18.6  0.7  0.8  0.1  0.1   280   318
fish paste cakes, block form,  98  111 12.0 13.6  0.9  1.0  9.7 11.0  1000  1134
 steamed
fish paste cakes, block form, 126  143 12.2 13.8  2.1  2.4 13.5 15.3  1000  1134
 grilled

MEATS:
beef, fat attached
 chuck                        184  209 19.0 21.5 10.9 12.4  0.3  0.3    60    68
 chuck loin                   238  270 18.5 21.0 16.9 19.2  0.2  0.2    55    62
 rib loin                     262  297 18.2 20.6 19.6 22.2  0.3  0.3    50    57
 sirloin                      236  268 18.5 21.0 16.6 18.8  0.3  0.3    50    57
 flank, plate                 260  295 17.8 20.2 19.6 22.2  0.2  0.2    50    57
 inside round                 148  168 21.2 24.0  6.1  6.9  0.3  0.3    60    68
 outside round                155  176 21.2 24.0  6.8  7.7  0.3  0.3    44    50
 rump                         203  230 18.6 21.1 13.0 14.7  0.5  0.6    47    53
 fillet                       155  176 21.4 24.3  6.7  7.6  0.3  0.3    50    57
chicken (meat with fat attached)
 wing, broiler                221  251 17.2 19.5 15.8 18.0  0.0  0.0    80    91
 breast, broiler              203  230 20.6 23.4 12.3 13.9  0.2  0.2    30    34
 thigh, broiler               211  239 17.3 19.6 14.6 16.6  0.1  0.1    45    51
 breast fillet, broiler       105  119 23.7 26.9  0.5  0.6  0.1  0.1    30    34

384.2Nutrition labelling, truth inCSOA1::WIEGMANNMon Jul 24 1989 22:5621
    This question concerns nutrition labelling on food packages -
    does anyone know if/how accurate this info is?  Does the USDA or
    Ralph Nader or Consumer Reports do any checking on this?  Are there
    any watchdog consumer groups out there who do?
   
    Also, does the government publish any comprehensive lists?  What
    I'm running into is one chart that lists, e.g., calories and sat-fat
    calories but not total fat calories, another that lists calories and 
    percent of fat (but doesn't specify what it is the percentage of-weight
    or total calories).  Another example is pita bread - one list shows
    white flour pita only, another shows 4 inch whole wheat, so if I
    have a 6 inch whole wheat, it's a guess!
    
    Reading labels and calling companies asking for this info has suddenly
    become much more important now that we're all so cholesterol-conscious,
    so I thought I'd throw this out for discussion.
    
    Any input?
    
    Terry
    
384.3"The Composition of Foods" HOONOO::PESENTIJPTue Jul 25 1989 12:0521
I've found that there just isn't anything that's going to give you all the 
info you want to know.  I assume the labelling on packages is accurate as far 
as what they tell you.  It's what they don't tell you that worries me.  I 
guess that's why Mass. is trying to get the mineral content listed on bottled 
water.  (I understand the FDA considers up to 3 maggots per pound of mushrooms 
to be acceptable! Gross!)  

The government does publish a document called "The Composition of Foods" that 
gives a pretty comprehensive listing of foods and their caloric, fatty, fiber,
vitamin and mineral breakdown.  Of course the listings are per pound and per 
100 g. edible portion.  They are pretty extensive, listing things in the 
shell, out of the shell, cooked, raw, boiled, fried, and so on.  BUT, this is 
only a guideline.  It deals largely with generic foods, not specific brands.  
Also, it lacks the yuppie foods we now take for granted (what?  no listing for 
papaya-nectar-sun-dried-tomato-and-capers salad dressing?)

There are other books that deal more with brands, but they always seem to 
leave out the specific brand you want to find out about.  So, if you want to 
determine calories and such down to a gnat's wing, this is not the publication 
for you.  But if you want to get a feel for what's good, bad, and better then 
what else, "The Composition of Foods" is excellent.
384.4VIA::GLANTZMike, DTN 381-1253Tue Jul 25 1989 12:4428
  I tend to agree with JP. A couple of years ago (I think), Consumer
  Reports had an article on food labeling and, as JP said, the
  information they present is accurate, but it doesn't always tell you
  what you'd like to know. For example, they list carbohydrate
  information, but don't tell you how much sugar is in the food. And a
  colleague pointed out to me that cookie manufacturers have taken to
  using several different kinds of sugar so that "sugar" doesn't appear
  as the first ingredient. Also, when a package says "chocolate" or
  "chocolate flavor" or whatever, you don't really have any idea how
  much real chocolate, if any, there is.

  I would prefer a labeling system a bit closer to what the European
  Community uses, where the percentage of the main advertised
  ingredients (e.g., chocolate, nuts, real fruit) is listed. For
  example, if you buy Cocoa Puffs, it must say on the label what
  percentage of chocolate is in the cereal (it's not too much). Also, as
  JP mentioned, bottled water must have a mineral and bacteria analysis
  on the label. It doesn't help me to know that my bottled water
  contains "no cholesterol".

  The US food industry would probably strongly oppose such labeling
  requirements even though it would cost them next to nothing (they
  already have to know this information, anyway), because it would make
  brand differentiation based on advertising meaningless. In plainer
  language, it would be much harder to fool the consumer. They'd
  actually have to put better ingredients in the product to win
  customers. So in that way, it could hurt profits, and, yes, I guess
  that could cost them some money.
384.5VMSSG::GRIMETue Jul 25 1989 15:2629
    Ingredients are listed in order of predominance in the product.  If you
    are concerned mainly with fat, you should watch for such things on the
    label as: vegetable fat, lard, animal fat, shortening, oil, butter,      
    margarine, cream, etc....  Also be careful with items that contain
    mayo, dressings, coconut, olives, cheese, nuts and meats, because
    these carry fat into foods as well.  (it doesn't get easy, does it!)
    If you really need to limit fat when cooking at home, try to substitute
    low-fat ingredients in recipes that won't affect the finished product.
    (for instance, peanut butter, strong cheese, and sesame oil are mostly
    equal in calories, but they have strong flavors so you can use a lot
    less)  Use wine or lemon juice instead of butter; low-fat yogurt
    instead of sour cream.  Replace cream with evaporated nonfat milk.
    You may also try cutting the amount of meat in half and replace the
    bulk with pasta, grains, legumes, etc.
    There are a lot of tricks out there, you will just have to learn to
    alter your needs as you see fit.
    
    A good book you may want to try is titled "Nutrition, Concepts and
    Controversies", Fourth edition.  The author's are Hamilton, Whitney and
    Sizer.  West Publishing Company.  This is the text used by UNH and it
    iis a terrific reference book which includes RDAs, conversion factors,
    as well as a Food Composition Table that lists your basic foods broken
    down to weight, energy, protein, carbo., fiber, fat, cholesterol,
    vitamins, minerals, etc....  The chart even does food comparisons of
    such places as Burger King, Taco Bell, Arby's and Kentucky Fried
    Chicken.... 
    
    Hope this helps,
    Cheryl
384.6DEMING::TEASDALETue Jul 25 1989 16:3325
    Thanks for bringing up one of my pet peeves.  Facts and truth may
    not always be the same.  
    
    There are a couple of types of misleading labeling that are common
    right now.  One is to state that just about any foodstuff is "natural"
    just because it has no five-syllable chemicals in it.  Sugary items
    are often touted as being natural, as if that means they are good
    for you.  Just because something grows on the planet doesn't mean
    you should eat a lot of it.
    
    The other misrepresentation is in "cholesterol free" foods.  If
    a food contains no animal fats it may be labelled this way.  Read
    the label carefully!  It probably contains coconut, palm kernel
    and/or cottonseed oils, at least partially hydrogenated (read
    indigestible).  People with high cholesterol are advised to eliminate
    these oils from their diets--why shouldn't the rest of us.  I prefer
    to wear my cotton rather than eat it.
    
    It's a lot of work to eat well--but it's worth it.  While you're
    at it, compare the ingredients on butter and margarines.  Animal
    fats may not be more harmful in the long run than chemical colors
    and preservatives, if you don't have to worry about every bit of
    cholesterol.
    
    
384.7Nancy Drew, step aside...CSOA1::WIEGMANNWed Jul 26 1989 21:2216
    Thanks for the replies - I'm off to the library/used book stores!
    
    I have started calling companies and asking them to send me nutrition
    information; surprisingly, I have gotten friendly, quick responses
    so far.
    
    I also read that when a label says "may contain one or more of the
    following..." assume the worst, that the company would have purchased
    whatever fat was cheap that day, so one box of Cheez-its may actually
    be made of unsaturated vegetable oil, and another one lard, but
    that by wording it as above, they're covered.
    
    In school, I did a paper on the labelling of alcoholic beverages
    - that was interesting to find out what beechwood aging really means!
    
    TW
384.8Get that Red Jalopy out....BOOKIE::AITELEveryone's entitled to my opinion.Thu Jul 27 1989 14:164
    Ok, now you've got me curious.  What *does* beechwood aging mean?
    I thought it was aging in a beechwood cask of some sort....
    
    --L
384.9not to be confused with the sawdust in bread...CSOA1::WIEGMANNThu Jul 27 1989 16:5512
    Beechwood aging sounds picturesque, doesn't it?  But from what I
    remember they add beech scraps to the vats of beer then strain it
    before bottling.  I think they said the wood could be anything from
    chunks of clean pristine wood to pieces of bark to sawdust, as long
    as it was beech and not, say, poplar or maple.  They also didn't
    get specific about just how long this "aging" takes - like other
    regulations, I guess as long as some amount of time passes (2 minutes?)
    it can be considered aged.
    
    Anybody out there have any brewery experience?
    
    Terry
384.10Complex and Simple Carbo breakdownBOOKIE::FARINAMon Jul 31 1989 22:2226
    Someone mentioned that carbohydrate information isn't broken down
    into sugars and complex.  FYI, many boxes of cereal *do* break it
    down this way, so you know exactly how many grams come from sugars
    and how many come from complex carbohydrates, and, further, what
    skim milk adds in terms of sugar carbohydrates.  I tend to eat mostly
    Kellogs cereals, so I don't know what General Foods, Nabisco, Post,
    Quaker, Ralston, and whoever-else-makes-cereal are doing.
    
    I bought some cereal called Oatios recently.  It seemed to truly
    be "all natural."  There was no added sugar, no preservatives, no
    flavor, no texture...We had to throw the junk out!  I liked the idea,
    and since it was made by a Massachusetts company, I thought supporting
    the (relatively) local economy by buying this cereal would be an
    especially "good do-bee" thing to do, I picked it up.  When we couldn't
    gag it down, I decided to try making oat bran muffins out of if,
    a la the All-Bran box (you know, soak the cereal in the milk for
    five minutes to soften it).  Well, when it hadn't softened in 24
    hours, we threw it out.  I tried pulverizing it in the food processor,
    and the texture of the resulting muffins (which always looked uncooked,
    by the way) was awful!
    
    So beware, truly all natural doesn't necessarily mean it's good!
    If you can't eat it, it isn't worth any money, let alone the extra 
    money they charge for it!
    
    Susan
384.11VIA::GLANTZMike, DTN 381-1253Tue Aug 01 1989 13:1720
  You're right about carbohydrate info being on cereal boxes, but it's
  not on stuff like cookies and cakes. And if you look at the
  ingredients on a box of cookies, it reads something like "flour,
  sugar, invert sugar, dextrose, maltose, vegetable shortening ...". If
  you don't happen to know that dextrose and maltose are sugars, then
  you wouldn't realize that the sugars actually make up half the weight
  of the product.

  You're also right about stuff that's "truly natural" often (but not
  always) being inedible. When you see the word "natural" on a product,
  a quick look at the ingredients usually reveals stuff like "natural
  flavorings", which are derived from "real" foods, but processed to
  such a degree that they're totally indistinguishable from the same
  chemicals synthesized in a laboratory. The point is: EVERYTHING is
  ultimately derived from something natural, and EVERYTHING you buy in a
  store is processed to some degree. What's the criterion for how much
  processing you can get away with and still call something "natural"?
  There doesn't seem to be any consistency on this (there are certainly
  very few, if any, laws), and manufacturers can get away with just
  about anything.
384.12nutritionDSTEG1::HUGHESTue Aug 07 1990 20:2422
    I looked for a notesfile on Nutrition and didn't find anything. This
    seems like a good place to try. I know there is lots of information
    about nutrition spread throughout this file but there isn't a keyword.
    
    I'm looking for ways to add protein to my diet. One of the stumbling
    blocks is that I try to stay away from foods that may contain molds.
    Foods like dried fruit and nuts, although you don't really see the
    mold it's still there. I also do not eat sugar and only occasionally
    eat fruit.
    
    My toughest problem is adding protein at breakfeast and snacks. I do
    eat eggs (hard boiled, cooked well and no added fat) but I get
    concerned about all the cholestrol and fat. I know I can just eat the
    egg white which has most of the protein, it's the yolk that has the
    high fat content. What's the scoop on eggs? I heard they have less
    cholesterol that originally thought.
    
    I'd like to stay away from peanut butter, eat moderate amounts
    meat, and moderate amounts of fats in my diet. Am I asking for too
    much?
    
    Anybody have any good ideas on how to add protein to my diet ? 
384.13VALKYR::RUSTTue Aug 07 1990 21:117
    I can't offer any specific advice, but you might check out these
    conferences for additional info:
    
    Holistic Health & New Age Topics 	HYDRA::HOLISTIC
    Vegetarian Interests            	SAFRON::VEGETARIANISM
    
    -b
384.14Legume + Grain = Complete proteinNITMOI::PESENTIOnly messages can be draggedWed Aug 08 1990 10:4120
Try adding legumes, like peas, beans, or lentils, to cooked whole grains, like
rice, oats, whole wheat (bread, even).

The incomplete proteins in these foods complement each other to provide you 
with complete proteins.  Protein pasta accomplishes this by mixing soy and 
wheat flours.  

Another great way of adding protein while minimizing fat is fish.  And instead 
of cooking whole eggs, try eggbeaters.  They are almost completely egg white,
and cook up just lilke scrambled eggs.  They virtually eleiminate the fat and
cholesterol.  Sautee them in a bit of olive oil flavored with garlic, top with
some cooked curried lentils, fold in half, and stick it in a half round of 
whole wheat pita bread.

Another dish is brown rice with peas.  Cook up the rice and add a bag 
of frozen peas (run it under hot tap water to thaw) to it at the end.

Make your own refried beans (without the lard) and roll some up in whole wheat
tortillas for bean burritos.

384.15try this bookSMURF::HAECKDebby HaeckWed Aug 08 1990 12:135
    There is a book called "Diet for a Small Planet".  I bought this for my
    roomate in college (many, many moons ago) when she decided to become a
    vegetarian.  I believe it is still in print.  It contains a good
    description of the amino acids which make up a complete protein and how
    to combine various foods to make a complete protein.
384.16Simple food, the best wayDUGGAN::MAHONEYWed Aug 08 1990 13:1126
    Oh my! with all that culinary investigation is no fun to be fed! I'd be
    even afraid to open my mouth! My own personal believe of a good
    nutrition is to eat well balanced meals without abusing any type of
    foods but at the same time, our bodies need a wide amount of different
    foods to run right, I mean that the body needs a certain amount of
    protein, vitamin, FAT, carbohidrates, fruit, sugar to keep balance and
    keep our organs running smothly (meaning gall blader, pancreas, liver,
    etc.) 
    I would not deprive myself from any of the above food groups... but
    again, MODERATION is the key of success.  We tend to overeat, and the
    simmplest way of knowing that is... when we gain weight it means our
    bodies get more food than it needs, so the surplus is stored under our
    skin in the form of fat... and when that happens the most sensible
    thing to do is...to cut down in the amount, not in the group category.
    
    When there is a sickness present, is a different story.  There are
    certain foods that have to be avoided altogether and the doctor is the
    person responsible to supply the adecuate diet, but I am assuming that
    we are talking about normal healthy bodies, with normal healthy
    requirements...
    
    Fish a a very good source of protein, white fish preferably, lentils
    and beans are excellent too, soy beans and its derivate, tofu, can be
    prepared in a thousand ways and is mild and easy to digest... nuts are
    excellent too but in moderation (they are high in fat besides protein)
    There are many foods that provide proteins...
384.17SELECT::FLEXREORG::AITELNever eat a barracuda over 3 lbs.Wed Aug 08 1990 15:045
    Try SELECT::FLEX - the weight training/bodybuilding conference.
    There is a LOT of information on protein and nutrition in there.
    
    -Louise (one of the moderators)
    
384.18Loose changeDOCTP::FARINAWed Aug 08 1990 16:5225
    .0, is there a medical reason why you are trying to add protein to your
    diet?  I ask because the vast majority of Americans (I don't know about
    Europeans) eat far more protein than their bodies actually require. 
    Women only need 4 or 5 ounces of protein a day, men 5 or 6 (unless
    there are specific medical reasons why more is needed).  Four ounces of
    fish isn't that much!  One egg counts as one ounce of protein.  A
    restaurant serving of prime rib is two days worth of protein for most
    men!  Of course, most American men don't believe this at all.  They've
    been taught that they "need" all that excess protein.
    
    If there are medical reasons why you need to increase your protein
    intake, why not ask your doctor?  The book recommended is a good idea,
    since it teaches you to balance your amino acids to get a complete
    protein (two tablespoons of peanut butter on *whole wheat* bread is a
    complete protein, BTW).
    
    As for eggs and cholesterol, there has been some evidence that there is
    now less cholesterol in eggs (due to the way chickens are fed?), so the
    limit has been raised to four eggs by some doctors.  Most, I think, are
    sticking with the three a week rule for now.  Also, if you have no
    history of cholesterol problems, and the rest of your diet is as
    cautious as it appears to be, you really don't have to worry about
    eating the quota of eggs.
    
    Susan
384.19protein isn't as important as it used to beTYGON::WILDEAsk yourself..am I a happy cow?Wed Aug 08 1990 20:4926
re: -1

additional news on the nutritional front in recent months:

there is a disturbing connection between over-consumption of protein in
the american diet and some cancers.  If I remember the articles I've read,
the cancers involve the intestines, liver, and breast.  It is doubtful you
are receiving inadequate protein if you eat any meat or fish in a given
week.  If you eat pasta (made from grains), rice, or beans you are definitely
getting enough protein in your diet for a healthy adult.

It is considered much healthier to concentrate on whole grains and legumes, 
fresh fruits, and fresh vegetables in a varied, balanced diet.  Down-play
the "standardized" protein sources - meat, fish, poultry - and you should
be healthy.  Some publications you might reference:

	IN HEALTH magazine - all the latest health/nutrition research news
	                     as well as living/lifestyle articles.

	PREVENTION magazine - it is much less the "vegetarian cult" magazine
	                     it seemed to be 20 years ago.  This magazine
	                     covers research from all over the world as well
	                     as offering recipes, etc.

Try your local book stores/magazine racks for both.  they make interesting
reading.
384.20protein for breakfastAKOV13::SCHOFIELDFri Oct 05 1990 18:099
    I eat a bagel (oat bran, pumpernickle, etc.) split, toasted with Lite
    and Lively cottage cheese on top. Sprinkle nutmeg and cinnamon on top.
    It's very tasty, even if you don't like Cottage Cheese (which I don't
    really).
    
    Cottage Cheese is considered a protein as far as the Diet Workshop goes
    and they're pretty good about the food they let you eat.
    
    beth
384.21It's a hit in my houseUPBEAT::JFERGUSONLeading LadyFri Oct 05 1990 18:555
    My kids make a similar breakfast...toast topped with a mixture of
    cottage cheese and applesauce, sprinkled with cinnamon.  Quick and
    easy.
    
    Judy