Conference turris::cooks

    you were toasting to the president with a glass a milk, it's the
    song the play when they introduce a president, and if
    i rembember correctly it was Eisenhauer (spl.)
    

    Chipped beef on toast, YUM!  Why do you think this
    is expensive to make today?
    
    HRH

    I remember my mother buying the 'chipped' beef (dried) in a jar.
    
    In our supermarket the 'jar' is about $2.89 - $3.49 - depending 
    which supermarket I am in.  I would have to buy a couple of jars
    for the recipe - could get to be expensive.
    
    ...and a can of salmon for the loaf.  Ouch - over $5.00 a can!
    
    

    Two cans of salmon at BJ's was only a little over $7.00.  Good 
    deal.  \
    
    This nostalgia is making me hungry.  I've got to dig out the
    recipe for Yum-yums.  They are a cakey square with a brown sugar
    meringue on top.  Terrific warm.
    
    Big Brother Bob Emery was not as good as Boom Town.  At least
    Rex Trailer never said he hated kids while on the air as did
    B.E.!!
    
    
    Lid
    

    I remember (when I was a Brownie...no comments please) that we had 
    campfires where we made the REAL smores.  Real good - real messy.
    
    I always _hated_ one grandmothers gravy (turkey) because she put
    giblets in there I didn't know what the heck GIBLETS were.
    Loved here creamed onions though - and excellent stuffing.
    
    My mom used to make a good creamed tuna and pea casserole - I can't 
    seem to duplicate it.  And my other grandmother made the best 
    gooseberry pie (she picked them off the tree on her farm in Oregon).
    
    I used to get cookies from an aunt (purple box...chocolate chip ?)
    that were so good.  I don't think they make them anymore.
    
    

    Breakfast at my grandmother's house...buttermilk biscuits...hot from the 
    oven...every morning and evening...light, high and fluffy.  They were the 
    breakfast mainstay along with lots of butter and honey (or if you *really*
    liked it -- sorghum syrup).  My grandmother would also let us have
    fresh peaches and sweetened whipped cream for breakfast, too.  Mama
    would never have allowed that!
    
    

oh, do I remember....

Nana's pot roast with homemade noodles. The noodles were cooked in the pot
roast gravy and were a fattening, fatty, delicious treat.  

Mom's ground up, left-over potroast, sandwich spread.  How can I describe this?
Mom pushed the cold, left-over pot roast through a meat grinder, added mayo,
mini-diced sweet pickles.  This was spread on toasted whole wheat bread with
additonal mayo, lettuce, and tomato.  Also works with roast beef, but we
seldom could afford a "roast".

Nana's hot fruited dumplings for winter desserts.  Bring two cans of pitted
dark sweet cherries (with juice), a can of sliced peaches (with syrup) 
mixed together to a simmer on the stove.  Drop in small bisquick mix dumplings
(recipe on box of bisquick) - a teaspoon size dumpling to start grows much
larger - cover pot and simmer until the dumplings are puffy and one isn't
"doughy" when you cut into it.  Serve warm with sweetened heavy cream.  No,
not diet food.

Mom's venison roast.  Barded with slices of bacon and roasted to a nice med.
rare.  Rubbed with baked garlic prior to roasting.  Served with potatos roasted
in the bottom of the pan, this was the best.  Dad brought home the venison
and mom cooked it.

for that matter, Mom's pan fried (now we say, saute) dove - again, Dad shot it,
mom cooked it.  These were delicious little birds.  Also pheasant when we
could find it out there in the desert.

Ah, this makes me SOOOOO hungry - and I cannot even get most of what we used
to eat when I was a kid....anyone know where I can buy dressed desert dove?

    Ooooh .7 reminded me of my grandmother's 'red flannel hash'. 
    
    I inherited her meat grinder (it's hanging in my pantry) and I would
    beg to help her out.  She'd mix it up with some salt pork, potatoes
    and can't remember what else - don't even remember what kind of meat
    she used.   Mmmmmm mmmmm mmmm!
    
    Also - she would prepare 'rice' potatoes.  My brother and I would take
    turns putting the boiled potatoes in the 'ricer'... somehow those 
    potatoes tasted so much better.  I guess we felt like we had made them - 
    so of course they were the best.
    
    
    

    My Nanna used to make the same thing for Christmas every year: Meatball
    lasagna, fried chicken, seafood newberg, and we always had langastino
    dip with different crackers (I always ate Better Cheddars). Growing up,
    I used to say (sometime in September/October) that I could just TASTE
    Christmas! 
    
    My Mom has tried to keep the tradition going. When my nieces and nephew
    get a bit older, we're going to revive the old Christmas Candy Tree!
    When we were kids, my two grandmothers and two aunts used to decorate a
    small fake tree with bags of choc. coins, candy canes, santa's, etc.
    There was an equal amount for all the kids. It was the HIT of Christmas
    when we were young.... ahh, the memories!
    
    beth

    re: .8 "red flannel hash"
    
           My mother-in-law made this from the left-over corned beef and
           cabbage dinners.  The potatoes and corned beef, together with
           beets (hence the red flannel), were groundup and the results
           heated in the oven..........lip-smakin good

    re: .7.  I thought my mother was the only one in the world who made
    sandwich spread out of gorund pot roast.  Whenever I brought it to
    school the other kids would beg me to swap with them.
    
    A special treat when it was too late for "heavy" food, a handful of
    graham crackers broken up in a dish with milk (today they have
    rady-made cereal).
    
    My great-grandmother made Danish meatcakes that no one can duplicate. 
    She bought pork roast and had it ground, then she added her own ground
    beef.
    
    And her Danish cukes were great, too.  And the red cabbage.
    
    Karen
    

    Milk toast with warm milk and sugar.  (those round crackers)
    
    Poor man's Saturday night dinner:  scrambled eggs with cut up hot dogs
    mixed in and ketchup on top!
    
    And at grandma's house... every - EVERY meal had to have some form of
    starch-- potatos, bread, rice, etc.  She thought I was too skinny.
    
    Home made donuts with fresh cider on a cool Fall night.

    
    
    	Milk Toast-Mom used to make that when we were home sick-overdone
    	toast a little butter, salt$pepper, and hot milk.
    
    	Scrambled eggs and hotdogs!
    	Home made donuts!  
    
    	(are you sure you're not related? :-)  )
    
    
    	And the Swedish dishes at Christmas like Kalv Silta(ground jelied
    veal), and Sill, 
    
    
    	I really miss the homemade jams, and Elderberry Pies! 

    Well, maybe not related but real close in tastes!  You see, my
    Christmas memories are of Polish delicacies!  All meatless, of course. 
    We had the sil, too.  (Uncle who married into the family was Swedish.)
    
    That's funny-- I didn't know anybody else did scrambled eggs and
    hotdogs!  
    
    My dad used to make great bread pudding, too.  We'd never throw out the
    crust from loaves of bread-- just save it up in the fridge 'til it was
    time to make the bread pudding.
    
    marcia

Re: .13

>    	And the Swedish dishes at Christmas like Kalv Silta(ground jelied
>    veal), and Sill, 

Oh, does that bring back memories!  Thanks!
    
    						Joanna

    WE used to have scrambled eggs and balogna -- either the wide slices or
    the smaller, kosher -style.  My kids think that's weird -- one will eat
    eggs and the other balogna, but not together!
    
    My mother made this last time we were home -- 
    

    Oh yeah.  My mom would just fry up bolognie, and sometimes she'd put
    onions with it.

    
    	Fried bologna( 'x' in the middle, 4 slits around the edge) with
    Mustard on fresh bread......

    
    
    When my father cooked breakfast for us as kids: we always wanted fried
    corn meal mush swimming in maple syrup.
                                            
    Lunch at my swedish grandmother's house : Kroppkaka (potato dumplings)
    filled with salt pork and served with an ice cold glass of milk.
                                                   

this subject has fired off some great memories:

	Dot Cash's mashed potato salad (sounds wierd, tastes greate);
	her batter dipped, fried okra (this way, I'll eat okra);
	her batter dipped, fried chicken - hot or cold;

	Mrs. Beldanado's beans and fresh flour tortillas (never has a
		king eaten food as wonderful as this simple meal - served
		with giant glasses of sweet iced tea);

	Mrs. Beldanado's coconut layer cake (whenever I smell a coconut
		cake, I'm 8 years old again);

	Mom's cinnamon-touched german chocolate cake (scratch cake and
		coconut-pecan topping);

	Mom's glazed walnuts (I wish I could make them!);	

 Grandma's tortieres. Best I've ever had.

 Grandpa's meatballs and spaghetti sauce.

 Mom's gorton.

 Dad's meat stuffing (for turkey).

	The 'Good Old Days'...  Brings back some good memories for me..

	Sunday morning breakfast would usually by scrambled eggs with
	Mushroom soup.  It was a concoction my dad thought of, and we
	always thought it was great..  Real simple to make to, just
	substitute a can of CoM soup for the milk..  We used about 
	a dozen eggs for one can...  Mmmm, still sounds good today...

	My mom use to work the night shift as a nurse, so she'd be 
	sleeping on Saturdays.	My dad had another weekend treat..  
	It'd be his version of goulash...  Pound of macaroni, couple
	cans of Cream of Mushroom soup (again), couple cans of tomato
	soup, some margarine, and a lot of cheese (usually plain old
	American).  Mix that together...  I've served it to my kids,
	and they like it...  Maybe a tradition is starting...  :-)

	Home made crueller donuts..

	And probably the BEST thing my grandfather ever taught me..
	After EVERY dinner (which was usually at noon time) was a
	big dish (at least it always looked big) of ice cream, and
	pour on top....  REAL Maple Syrup..  To this day, I enjoy
	real syrup instead of the colored corn syrup they pass off..

	The base note mentioned plain white rice for a dessert..
	My mom use to (and still does for special days) make a dessert
	called 'Ice Cream Rice'.. Made with rice, milk, plain gelatin,
	sugar and heavy cream..   It is delicious... My wife doesn't
	care for plain rice, but even she's been known to have seconds..

	Csw

  When I was a kid this was a favorite!

    1 slice of bread topped with
    1 slice of cheese topped with
    1 slice of tomato sprinkled with
    oregano....

     This was put into the toaster oven and toasted.

     Kinda like pizza.

     
     Variation: Put a slice of balogna on the bread before the cheese.

   

    - Bob

   

    My mouth is watering at the thought of:
    
    Nana's pot roast/brisket.  So tender you didn't need a knife, the best
    I've ever had.
    
    Mom's blintzes, topped with sour cream and sugar/cinnamon.
    
    Dad's potato salad, cole slaw and spare ribs (we'd fight over who'd get
    the last one).
    
    Susan

    When things were really busy a quick & easy my mom fixed us was
    1 can CoM , 1 can tuna mixed together add little water heat.
    spread over toast, cover  with asparagras spears & grated cheese.
    
    Yum..

Cooking wasn't one of my mom's strong points, so I don't have a whole lot
of food memories from childhood.  But my wife's renditions of her childhood
favorites make my mouth water sometimes.  She was raised in the South, and
her mother cooked Southern through and through. 

They had a homemade bread every evening, usually either buttermilk biscuits
or cornbread, but sometimes rolls.  Pat was an adult before she ever tasted
a canned biscuit!

There was a garden every summer, and Pat's mother canned and froze enough
vegetables to last the family all winter.  In the summer it wasn't unusual
for them to sit down to a meal consisting purely of harvest from the
garden:  fresh limas, creamed corn, cukes and sliced tomatoes, crowder
peas, green beans, squash, collards, mustard and turnip greens, boiled
cabbage -- who needed meat??  Unlike many children, Pat grew up loving
vegetables, and she believes it was because her mom cooked only fresh
veggies, and seasoned them so they were really good. 

For meats, fried chicken was a favorite, and was served about every week.
Also, those little thin pork chops, fried crisp with mashed potatoes and
gravy. Another frequent favorite was chicken 'n dumplings, but the
dumplings were the flat, non-leavened type instead of the puffy, Bisquick
kind. Pot roast was another, though they didn't have it that often.  One of
Pat's childhood favorites that I had never heard of was "Backbone 'n
Spareribs." Apparently, they were just boiled with seasonings, though Pat
failed to get the procedure from her mother before she died. 

A breakfast favorite in their family was fried country ham, with redeye
gravy to ladle over homemade biscuits.  Pat's grandmother, on the other
hand, used to get un-pasteurized cream from a local dairy farm to ladle
over piping hot biscuits for breakfast.  Her grandmother also bought 
homemade sausage from a local farmer, and Pat says she has never tasted 
anything that even came close to that sausage.

For desserts, banana pudding was a weekly event, and fresh fruit cobblers
appeared on the table quite often.  Cakes were reserved for birthdays and 
special occasions, but pies were everyday fare.  And, like just about 
everything else she made, Pat's mother made her pies from scratch -- none 
of that frozen crust or canned pie filling for her!

On the down side, the preferred seasoning was salt pork, and it was used 
liberally.  Much Southern cuisine back then was fried, and the diet was 
generally high enough in fat to horrify most nutritionists today.  They had 
a lot of rice and mashed potatoes, always with gravy.  It was a totally 
unhealthy diet, though they certainly didn't know it at the time.  It's 
sort of sad to see that kind of wonderful food go by the wayside because 
we've learned it's bad for us -- I guess it's a case of ignorance truly 
being bliss!  Our family certainly doesn't eat that way today, but I'd put
that food up against *ANY* of the healthy stuff being pushed today for pure
taste. Ah, the price of progress... 

Steve

    AHHHHH - I am my mother's child.  Born and raised in the south, and
    even though I've been seasoned with convenience and a little health
    consious, there are a few die - hard habits that I bear of hers.
    
    When cooking, I use whole milk (we use skim on cereals), real
    butter (low-fat margarine on toast), all purpose flour (no self
    rising), real whipping cream (no cool-whip).
    
    The microwave is used only for reheating leftovers, or thawing
    something if I'm in a pinch.
    
    Dinner used to consist of : 1 meat, 3 veges, bread (either loaf bread,
    biscuits, or corn bread), desert, and good old sweat tea.
    (To the last noter, I tried canned biscuits once in college, never
    again.  I'll do without if I can't make them homemade).
    
    The good ole days!!
    
    Angie

    And for those chilly autumn Sunday afternoons (after the pot roast)...
    
    Mrs. Chandler Apple Rolls ... hot out of the oven, dripping with brown
    sugar and topped with as much fresh whipped cream as you could fit on
    it!!!!
    
    And, of course, rainy Saturday afternoons .... pea soup and "johnny
    cake" (corn bread) for lunch!!!  And Beans and Franks for dinner!!!!
    
    
    Meg
    

    This is a little old now, but I'm just getting around to reading it! 
    Talk about memories!
    
    I thought we were the only people in the world who ate creamed tuna -
    people look at me like I'm crazy if I mention it.  We used to have
    creamed tuna (medium white sauce with white meat tuna) regularly.  We'd
    have mashed potatoes, make a well in them on our plates, spoon peas
    into the well, then cover it all with creamed tuna!  I loved it! 
    Creamed tuna volcanoes.
    
    My mother wasn't (isn't) a terrific cook, but the things she did well
    are the things I can't duplicate!  Her beef stew is the best I every
    had.  So is her corn chowder.  She makes a roast chicken and I don't
    know what she does to the skin, but we all fight over it (still!).
    
    My Nana always had beef ready to make meatballs - spiced and mixed. 
    She'd make hamburgers with it if we dropped in unexpectedly.  Then
    tomato sauce instead of catsup - and of course, mozzarella instead of
    American cheese on a cheeseburger.  Her Italian dressing was the best I
    ever had.  No one even tries to duplicate it any more, because it's
    always a disappointment.  The greatest compliment you can give my Dad
    is to tell him that it smells like Nana's house used to smell when he's
    cooking.
    
    BTW, those donuts with the apple cider have to be cake donuts, not the
    yeast donuts!  It just won't do.  Preferably plain, with cinnamon sugar
    donuts an acceptable alternative.
    
    My Dad made English muffin pizzas with slices of tomato, mozzarella,
    crumbled oregano and a drizzle of olive oil.  Yum!
    
    We were raised Catholic, so the creamed tuna was always the Ash
    Wednesday meal, and frequently the Friday dinner.  Also fish sticks and
    French fries, with baked beans on the side.  And Saturdays we had
    hamburger patties (occasionally hot dogs), french fries, and baked
    beans (and we had to watch Lawrence Welk while we ate it, whether we
    wanted to or not!).  And broken up graham crackers with sugar and milk
    were frequently Sunday dinner, since we had the big meal at 2:00.  Or
    sometimes slabs of Italian bread with peanut butter and a cup of hot
    ;chocolate.
    
    Ah, the good old days!  Hungry as all this has made me, at least I
    don't have to watch Lawrence Welk any more and I now know that green
    vegetables don't have to be olive green when cooked (that's how Mom
    cooked them!).
    
    Susan

    Yeah but... Did you have to watch your mom and dad DANCE to the
    Lawrence Welk show????  I used to think they were so CORNY!  The real
    reason why I hated Lawrence in those days, though, was that it was a
    signal-- immediately after the show I had to go take my bath and then
    (gasp) go to bed!

    
    
    	I can top that.  One mild New Years Eve, my parents 'popped' the 
    	T.V. dancing to Guy Lombardo!  We were outside watching them dance
    	when they did some polka style hop, and phhht... the T.V.went.

    RE: .11 by SNAKKE::HAMILTON 
    
    >My great-grandmother made Danish meatcakes that no one can duplicate. 
    >She bought pork roast and had it ground, then she added her own ground
    >beef.
    
    Frikadella.  I make these with half pork and half veal ground together
    three times with onion ground in as well and a little cream soda.  Then
    you dip them in some egg and bread crumbs and fry them in a skillet.
    
    I got the recipe out of the Time-Life "Foods of the World" Scandinavian
    cookbook, I think.