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      I.  Introduction

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6.  DIGITAL PERSONNEL material should never appear in the types
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	Some basic conference rules.


	No wagering.

	No Ticket Touting.

	No foul or abusive language.

	Do not create a new topic unless you are sure that a similiar one does
	not exist already.

	Please remember that this is a worldwide conference read by many
	people of different races and creeds.

 
	Gary.	

    
    If you wish to create a topic for your club, please mail me or one of
    the moderators.  We would like to keep them all together.
    
    Please don't create a topic unless you are going to occasionally use
    it. (even if it's only once every couple of months).  There's no point
    creating a Halifax Town note just because you think it's a good idea
    and you have no intention of ever entering a reply.
    
    Gary.

    Dear moderators,
    
    There seems something is going wrong with this notesfile (or is it with
    my favourite VAX ?)
    
    First time I entered this note, I had a look at topic 3 (directory)
    and saw that there was one reply for topic 10 (introduce yourself)
    I decided to read that reply and found out that actually there were
    17 or 18 ;
    
    Next time I entered the notes file I got the message "no more new
    notes" and there *were* new notes (at least in topic 10)
    
    What if we can't rely on Notes system messages :-)
    
    Desperately yours
    
    Philippe
    
    P.S. : JF has not
    		- introduced himself
    		- written a report on ASM-Rennes game (can understand why)
    		- written a report on ASM-Cannes (can't understand why)
    
    Is JF still alive ????????

    
    
    Philippe
    
    It's already in here (buried in the Liverpool notes) - to get new notes
    do....
    
    SET SEEN/BEFORE=1-JAN-1991
    
    Paul

    Can one of the mods do something like a;
    
    Notes> set conf/notice="Do a 'Notes> set seen/before=01-jul-1991'"

    
    The old football conference is now available for reference on node
    yuppy.
    
    At the notes prompt  add entry yuppy::football_archive
    
    This conference is writelcoked but you will be able to read it and
    extract information.
    
    Gary.

             <<< Note 2.7 by GALVIA::SPAIN "Parker for England" >>>
                     -< Old football conference available >-

    
>>    The old football conference is now available for reference on node
>>    yuppy.
    
>>    At the notes prompt  add entry yuppy::football_archive
    
>>    This conference is writelcoked but you will be able to read it and
>>    extract information.
    
>>    Gary.

Gary,

Followed your instructions but now I get a "FILE NOT FOUND" message.

What's up?

T_

    
    Folks, there was a disk crash and apparently the conference wasn't
    backed up since 20-aug so we seem to have lost 3 weeks of notes.  I'll
    try and find out more but with the system managers 1500 kms away it
    isn't easy.
    
    Gary.

    What the hell is wrong with this conference lately?? 
    
    Tony.

    
    There was a head crash on a disk in DECpark in Munich. Unfortunately
    Dezzz (the mod) is on holiday, so things didn't get sorted out very
    quickly. It seems that backups were seldom on this disk.
    
    Gary Spain. You should probably change the conference notice to tell
    people to do a different set seen command, e.g. /before=9-sep-1991
    
    
    		Steve
    

    PROBS...
    Seems to be a problem with this file I,ve added a few notes and now
    they,re nowhere to be seen .Whats the problem.
    

    Like you say... Each time I enter it says 'No more new Notes'...

    
    Re -1,
    
    See title of conference
    
    
    	do a  notes> set seen/before=9-sep
    
    Gary.

    I've added a couple of notes but some were not accurate so I would like
    to delete them . How do I go about it. ???
    
                                                Gordon....
    

    
    Gordon,
    	I think you have to be in the node that you were in when you
    entered the note.
    	After that it's just a case of "reading" the note you want to
    delete then type "DEL", it will then ask you to confirm that you want
    to delete it, type "y" for yes, and the note will be gone!!
    	Any problems give me a shout at changeover time.
    
    Archie
    

    I'm not that good at figuring out technical stuff, but here's another
    way to revise your notes.
    
    If you want to correct the information in your note, you can extract 
    it, edit it and re-post it. To do this, type EXT xx.xx (number of note) 
    and hit return. Then you can delete the note,since you already have it
    on your system. Then you exit notes, and at the promt type EDIT xx.xx 
    (must be exact number of note). Then type C and return. You can edit 
    your note, and when done, type EXIT twice. Go back into notes and when 
    you are at the note you'd like to reply to, type REPLY xx.xx
    
    The note you were just working on appears as a reply. You can still add
    to it or change things at ths poit as well. You might want to delete
    the top portion of the "notes" heading, since it will automatically
    appear anyway.
    
    Hope this helps
    
    Tom

Mr. Mod

       Maybe its me, but I seem to have alot of "note being written"
notices all timed around 10am. Take for example the Liverpool topic
there are about 6 replies missing there. Any explaination.??

Rgds,
Shaughs

    
    The disk on rtodwt was full this morning and no notes could be entered
    for a couple of hours.  Unfortunately those notes are now lost unless
    the author kept a copy.
    
    Gary.

    
    Is the conference notice correct ?
    
    [library] or [notes$library]
    
    Paul

    
.21>    Is the conference notice correct ?
    
.21>    [library] or [notes$library]
    
	It should be [notes$library], but as the only people who will see
the notice have already gained access, it's not over important :-)

	There is no longer a need to do the modify entry at all.

                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     29-Jan-1992 11:49am EST
                                        From:     RON GLOVER
                                                  GLOVER.RON
                                        Dept:     Corporate Employee Relations
                                        Tel No:   508-493-9569

TO: Conference Moderators

Subject: A Message to Employee Interest Notes File Users                        



By way of introduction, I am the Corporate Personnel Policy Manager.  
Part of my responsibility includes providing interpretation of Digital's 
Personnel Policy, including the Personnel Policy 6.54.   I would greatly 
appreciate your assistance in posting the attached memo from John Sims in 
the Notes files you moderate, and as many other Employee Interest Notes 
Files as possible.  Please give me a call if you have any questions.




                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     30-Jan-1992 
                                        From:     John Sims
                                                  SIMS.JOHN AT A1 at CORA @ CORE
                                        Dept:     Strategic Resources
                                        Tel No:   223-7243

TO:  Employee Interest Notes File Participants 


Subject:  A message to employee interest notes file users

           A MESSAGE TO EMPLOYEE INTEREST NOTES FILE USERS
    
    
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        [Original list deleted]


    
    well, looks like this place is going to be awful quiet during the
    day...
    
    Ian.
    

    
    So what happened this time ?
    
    Football notes disappeared for nearly two days and then returns on a
    different and even slower node. 
    
    Paul

    
    HELP !!!
    
    RTODWT's come back to life aswell now - we've got two football
    notesfiles going at the same time.......
    
    Maybe we can have one for Liverpool/Scottish/Predictions and another
    for us humans...... ? :-)
    
    Paul

    Paul,
    
    There's 3 if you count the Football_arcive on yuppy::
    
    This rtoed is a bit slow - what is it, a slimmed down mv2 ?
    
    jb.

    
    OK we're back again.  The size of this file and the number of links are
    causing problems.
    
    Hopefully networking should be less of a problem now as most of the
    contributors are in the UK.
    
    As for the size, well the best way that I can see to keep the size down
    is to stop the prediction topics.  There are over 2,000 notes on
    predictions.  What I suggest is that somebody volunteer to collate the
    predictions and predicitions are mailed to this person rather than
    posted.  He/She can then post the predicitions on Friday and the
    results on Monday.
    
    Gary.

    
    Good idea but howabout......
    
    deleting the contents of each predictions topic every 
    couple of weeks or each week depending on how much time 
    you have. The information ceases to be useful each monday
    morning.
    
    Other ideas anyone ??
    
    JN.

    I agree with -1. Sounds like a fair enough idea.

I agree with the last 2.

I think if the predictions were to be mailed then the number that take part
would fall dramatically.

I think that every week the previous weeks predictions are removed, and the only
notes left should should be the totals.

Al

    
    I agree with the last three.
    
    JN.

you've got my vote aswell.

T_

    
    I'll go along with the crowd.
    
    Also RAThole topics as well, like 'whats the score' etc...
    
    just my twopenneth's worth
    
    mac

I'd start by deleting completely pointless notes like this one.

Dave

    
>>      <<< Note 2.38 by XSTACY::PATTISON "A rolling stone gets the worm" >>>
>>                                   -< Idea >-


>> I'd start by deleting completely pointless notes like this one.
    
    Start with Note 39; the team doesn't deserve a note.
    
    Rob

    May I suggest deleting the Arsenal topic?
    
    As well as reclaiming disk-space, there is a substantial boredom relief
    factor.
    
    Regards,
    
    Clive. (Spurs & England)

    Clive,

    You don't know how close we came to having node ARSNAL set up as the
    new home for the conference recently. Needless to say, note 45 and all
    references to S***s would have been zapped as a total waste of space,
    their only redeeming feature being a source of merriment and mirth.

    How apt it would have been - Arsenal the home of football and ARSNAL
    the home of football notes.

    
    Apologies to all noters for the cock-up whilst I was away on vacation.
    
    I told the new autocratic system manager that he was to hold fire until
    I was back i.e. today 13th April 1992. Obviously his inexperience in
    the field of user relations was slightly lacking here, a good thing it
    wasn't the ALPHA nortes conference!!. Thanks to the chaps that sorted
    this problem out in my absence.
    
    Again, sorry for the inconvenience.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Dezzz.  

    
    I've received another in a long list of complaints about the language
    and tone of some of the notes in this conference.  A number of people
    are very unhappy with these notes.  The main culprits seem to be
    Scottish noters.
    
    This conference is for discussing football.  It is not to be used for
    insulting opposing fans or opposing teams.  
    
    Setting notes hidden does not seem to be enough.  If this persists
    certain people will have to be banned from this conference.
    
    Please remember this is a public notesfile read by a large number of
    people.
    
    Gary.   

    
    I tried to access the old football conference at node YUPPY but got a
    "File not found" message. Anyone who knows where FOOTBALL_ARCHIVE is
    located?
    
    Mats

    
    Mats, apparently it has gone away and they don't have a backup.  I
    looked for it a couple of months back.  Sadly the info seems lost.
    
    Gary.

          <<< Note 2.45 by IMBUSY::SPAIN "There's always the U.S." >>>
                          -< Old Football conference >-

    
>    Mats, apparently it has gone away and they don't have a backup.  I
>    looked for it a couple of months back.  Sadly the info seems lost.
    
>    Gary.


I blame that Panes character.


Stuart

    
    What's wrong with this conference ? I usually have problems accessing
    it, with the message "Network Partner Exited".
    
    Nobody else have the same problem as I do ?
    
    
    Philippe 

    
    Everybody's getting it, intermittently - That's why there's not heaps of
    congratulations in note 52 ;-)
    
    Tim

    
    I tend to get the 'Network Partner Exited' about one access in three!
    
    Ian
    
    

		
The other rmoderators and I have had cause to write a number of notes asking
people to calm down.  This has come to a head recently with some very serious
complaints over the content of the Rangers and Celtic topics.

Due to the content of some notes we have decided to put some noters on 
probabtion.  One more offence and they will be banned from this conference.
We will be contacting them through mail. This sort of behaviour is not 
acceptable in Digital.

We suggest that Rangers and Celtic fans stick to their own topics and stick
to discussing football.  If you wish to continue the sectarian banter please
set up your own notes conference.  


JF Champollion
Dezzz Cassidy
Gary Spain

    
    Dear moderators,
    
    is there any chance of doing anything about the current problems with
    TRUCKS ? 
    
    Virtually every time I try and access FOOTBALL, I get network partner
    exited.
    
    Paul

>>    Let's wait a little. Dust will probably settle.

JF,

	I don't think that this problem's just going to go away, as it has been
happening pretty constantly for the last 6 weeks or so. I think it's a system
management problem with TRUCKS. Who is the system manager???

Al

    
    It seems to have been okay today......
    
    There's a node here in Warrington where I could beg for some space if
    required (it's the same one that FANTASY_FOOTBALL lives on).
    
    Paul

    
    Yet again we have to set notes hidden.  Yet again the culprits are Old
    Firm fans in South Queensferry.  As sson as some people stop adding
    insulting notes others are there to take over.  This isn't friendly
    banter it's just downright ignorance.
    
    Please stick to discussing football.  Can I suggest that somebody sets
    up an Old firm conference on node pakora and you can say what you like
    in there.
    
    Gary.

    
    Re -1,
    
    It has been pointed out to me that the 2 offenders recently have both
    been Celtic supporters and that the Rangers fans have heeded our
    original warning.  This is indeed correct.
    
    I would hope that everybody will heed this warning.  Please stick to
    discussing football.  I don't want to have to close down the Old Firm
    topics and I certainly don't want this conference closed down by
    personnel.
    
    Gary. 

    re .254
    
    What node is fantasy_football on ??
    
    

re .57

	SHAWB1 41.570

	Phil.

    
    There\s another spate of rumours circulating about the closing of
    employee interest notesfiles.  Can everybody please think before they
    type.  Neither the other moderators nor I have time to read everything.
    Please be careful.
    
    Gary.

    It seems that they are more than just rumours. Check out
    HUMANE::DIGITAL. It is one of the last topics.
    
    If they decide not to close down non-work related conferances, you
    can bet that the rules will be be more closely adhered to, in order
    to close them down anyway.
    
    Regards,
    Wayne.
    

    
    Is anyone else having problems accessing this notes file?  For the past
    couple of days I have often been unable to connect - I get the error
    Bad file Number (from the MS Windows Conferencing product - I have
    also been having problems connecting from the OpenVMS interface).
    
    Jon

    
    Remember this conference is for discussing football.  It is not meant
    for discussing local pubs and silly games over which note hs the most
    replies.
    
    Gary.

    Re 64
    
    Visiting a pub before a game is part of the game.
    
    
    /GAry

    
    Dear Mods,
    
    can you tell me if there are any work related conferences on TRUCKS
    that are not company confidential ie. That a non-deccie with access to
    decnet might be able to access.
    
    If there are, is there any chance of a mail with the conf. Title and
    description of contents please?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Loz.

    
    I find the introductory "Thanks for everything, Mr Lineker" to be very
    racist 8-)) Why was there no "Thanks, Mr Souness" or even "Thanks, Mr
    Macari" when these gents stood down.
    There was nothing worse to watch than Gary's smiling face when he stuck
    one away for England....oh yes there was...Platt's face when he got
    that fluke against Belgium in the WC in 1990.
    
    Archie
    

    
     Archie, it could be worse. Imagine what'll happen when the original
    cry-baby decides to pack it in. No doubt there will be a few tears in
    here from the friendly noters down south.
    
     Danny. 

    
    re: last Couple...
    
    Typical....
    
    Neil...

        re: .68, 69
    You two have got every right to complain! In fact, just to redress the
    balance, I think we should have a "Scottish Week" next week, with
    introductory messages that celebrate Scottish footballing heroes of the
    recent years.

    How about this for starters:

    
    MONDAY: "Thanks for everything, Mr. Rough!"
    TUESDAY: "Thanks for everything, Mr. McLeod!"
    WEDNESDAY
    .
    .
    .

    Get your nominations in now ;-)

    Dom

    P.S. Musical accompaniment courtesy of your favorite football song (and
    mine!):
    
    "We're all off with Ally's Army..."
          

    
    
    How about one to celebrate Engerland football heroes of recent years.
    
    How about this for starters:
    
    "But ref, you can't book me, I'll miss the 3rd place play off. Gary, 
    tell him a'm just a wee barrel of lard, ah didnae mean to hurt him"
    
    "Do I not F*****G like that. Linesman, the ref's just got me the sack"
    
    "But we won the world cup in 1966 so there" 
    
      Danny.
    
    

    >"But ref, you can't book me, I'll miss the 3rd place play off. Gary, 
    >tell him a'm just a wee barrel of lard, ah didnae mean to hurt him"
              ^^^        ^^^                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    So now you're telling us they speak Swahili on Tyneside? I've obviously
    been away too long ;-)
    
    Dom

    
    
    re last
    
     Okay, for the uneducated masses, "tell him I am just a little fat
    barrel of lard, I didn't mean to hurt him". I'm still a fat overrated
    little Englishman anyway, God Save The Queen and all that crap.
    
     Danny.
    
     

    
    	purr-leez...
    
    	God Save The Queen is not "all that crap"...
    
    	let's have a bit of respect, Danny...;-)
    
    	Andy.

>>>>	God Save The Queen is not "all that crap"...
    
    I have to disagree here. God Save the Queen is crap, (musically). I
    think your national anthem should be the Morecambe and Wise theme tune
    `Bring Me Sunshine'. God knows we could use some up here north of the
    border....
    
    and just in case anyone takes this seriously, here is a smiley....
    
    				{8-)
    
    Ray....

	re .76

>    I have to disagree here. God Save the Queen is crap, (musically). I

	Don't knock "God Save The Queen". At least it is within the vocal
	range of the average member of the public. Which is more than can
	be said for the U.S. national anthem.

	Tony

    .77
    true, true, 
    
    on UK TV recently they showed some celebs trying to sing the Star
    Spangled Banner at sporting events and making complete arses of themselves,
    there was the infamous Roseanne Barr version, and the even worse effort by 
    that great American Carl Lewis....he sang it in at least 3 different
    keys and still couldn't make the high notes....
    
    I prefer Roseanne's version tho, it has to be better than the total
    hammering given to it by Whitney Houston et al, she takes about 10
    minutes to get thru the bloody song, ie.. "the
    laaaaAAAAaAaAaaaaAAAAAAaaaannnddddDDDDddd offffFFFF theeeeEEEeeeEEE
    ffffffffFFFFFrrrrRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeEEEEEEe, and the
    hoooooOOOOmmmmEEeEEEE offf ttthhhheeeee etc.etc."
    
    best of all is Sinead O'Connors' version of it tho....(silence)
    
    %-)....(only kidding, it's good for morale)
    
    Ray....
           

All very interesting, this debate about Englaan & God Save The Queen. The only 
problem is that it ISN'T the English national anthem.

It's supposed to be the BRITISH national anthem (despite the questionable bits 
about crushing the rebellious Scots - which doesn't seem to have been all that 
succesful !). 

It annoys the arse off me to go to Wembley, have "Land of Hope and Glory" played 
quietly over the tannoy as the teams walk out, then have to sing GSTQ (I don't 
!). 

On top of this, you see all these jerks with the Union Flag instead of the Cross 
of St. George. I don't see many Scots at Hampden or Welsh at Cardiff using the 
wrong flag, so why do so many of us English seem to want to use the wrong flag 
and anthem. It's probably the old (and especially London based) arrogance that 
England (or London) IS Britain.

Now I've got that off my chest, I'm going to have to go for a lie down in a 
darkened room. Nurse, the screens.....

    
    I agree with the previous note. English fans using the Union Flag only
    confuse people from other countries about the status of the various
    parts of the UK. It probably encourages others to think that we should
    only have one team in thw World Cup etc.
    
    Archie
    (Rebellious Scot)
    

    I entirely agree with the English using the flag of St George. Who in
    their right minds wants to be associated with the rest of the
    scrounging nations in the British Isles 8-)
    
    

    
>It probably encourages others to think that we should
>    only have one team in thw World Cup etc.
    
    Since you mention it, it makes no difference at all. If you're
    recognized as a national entity, you should be allowed to compete in
    international football. 
    
    The UK is recognized as a national entity, England/Scotland etc aren't.
    
    It's as simple as that.
    
    	have a nice weekend,
    
    		Stefan

    .81
       Where would you English be? You stole the money of our oil,your now
    trying to steal our water.I think the English are the Scroungers.You
    even get your decent managers from Scotland.Bring back Wembley and
    we will soon show you, who are the superior beings.
    
    Home rule for Scotland.

    
    Yes John,i can imagine it now.Brian Irvine and Craig Levein against the 
    likes of Shearer,Cole,Wright,Collymore,Sutton,Fowler,Ferdinand or
    Sheringham,(perm any two).
    Frightening ! Isn't it.

    Remember we beat the so called World chumps in 67.England were supposed
    to be unbeatable then and look what happened.I see you do not mention
    that animal Hatley in your list of English chumps.Mind you at the
    present time form wise Rangers are not even fifth rate.I would even put
    Raith before them.
     Ferry Jambo.

    Re. 83
    
    Every time I went to Wembley it was filled with Scots admittedly. the
    trouble is that half of them lived in England because the Scottish
    economy was so strong that it couldn't support all the scroungers so
    they all come down here and take our jobs.... 

    Re .83
    
    I must second the opinion that if it wasn't for elite Scottish managers
    running top english clubs (Man.U, Blackburn & Arsenal) then the
    standard of the game in england would not be anywhere near the level it
    is today.I think this proves that Scots in general are superior beings
    with better leadership qualities.
    
        Just look at John Major for example!!!!
     

    
    	Could you take this mindless xenophonic garbage elsewhere,
     	lads....it's all very tiresome and pointless.
                
    	Thanks, 
    
    	Andy.

    
    re MCURRAN "goat Heed"
    
    That widnae be BILLYgoat Heed would it ????
    
    SQF Blues Brother
    

    
    Re:.85
    No i didn't include Hateley,and remember he is currently the best
    striker in Scotland.As for being 5th rate.....
    where the f*** does that place you's,a team who haven't won a major
    honour for over 30 years ? 

    re .86
    
    
    
    
    Get a Life....!!!!!
    
    

re.86

Stuart, watch what you're saying, here.  If you made comments like that about 
Asians or West Indians or something, you're note would have been zapped off the 
face of this conference.  Remember that many Scots/Welsh/N.Irish feel just as 
detached from England/"Britain" as many immigrants do, therefore, they're just 
as likely to get offended by what could be termed as racist tosh.

    Matt
    
    Personally, I don't  give a toss whether people are black, brown, pink
    with yellow polka dots and where they come from. Merely stoking others
    fires. Maybe I should add more smiley things after the comments in .86
    if it offended people.
    
    Stuart

>    Re :
>
>    Personally, I don't  give a toss whether people are black, brown, pink
>    with yellow polka dots and where they come from. 
>
>    Stuart
    
    
    
    Stuart,
    
    Personally, we don't give a toss what you think. You're just a typical
    English scumbag who's still upset at the decline of the Empire !  Go
    take your frustration out on someone else !
    
    Jerry.
    
    
    ;-)  Watch out, there seems to be a small sharp metal object hidden in
    that worm  ;-)
    
    

Merely pointing out that there's no way that anyone would dare to make racist 
remarks about ethnic minorites etc., but it appears to still be open season on 
Wales/Scotland/bitsofIreland.

    
    
    Hi,
    
    Can't someone volunteer to move the conference file up to *.*; and put
    pointers in the ;-1 and ;-2 files
    
    This is getting silly. I think we might be losing contributors by
    hiding away the conf in this fashion.

    
    There's some kind of problem on TRUCKS - it looks like the protection
    in TRUCKS::NOTES$LIBRARY is such that anyone can create a file in
    there...
    
    I'll speak to the system managers and see if it can be sorted.
    
    Paul

    
    Well the problem has been sorted - FOOTBALL.NOTE;3 and FOOTBALL.NOTE;2
    have been deleted - the problem wasn't protection it's caused by a bug,
    but I won't say where in case anyone tries to b*gger around.
    
    Paul
    

    
    Thanks Paul,
    
    I wrote to the system manager...I was unaware of the bug but yes it
    seems to have raised its ugly head again.
    
    Dezzz.

    
    Here's the latest (again) !!
    
    I realised that most people would possibly still have their football
    notes entry pointing to TRUCKS::FOOTBALL.NOTE;-1. So I've created a 
    dummy file TRUCKS::FOOTBALL.NOTE;2 which is set NOWRITE and just has
    pointers to the correct file.
    
    Please pass this info round to any football noters you know.
    
    Paul

    
    
    Good work Paul
    
    cheers,
    
    	Stefan

Dear Mr Mod,

Isn't it a bit early for the Golden Boot award?! Stoichkov has, I think, won 
France Football's European Footballer of the Year award.

grahame

    
    Good luck, JF.
    
    There is a life outside DEC, sometimes much more interesting.
    If you want to pass a message in the football notes, as I am in VBO 
    too, don't hesitate to contact me.
    
    Go on, Rennes !
    
    Pierre-Yves
     
    

    
     Re.103
    
    <<I know I will miss most of you>>
    
     I assume I'm *NOT* included in the above line ?  8*)))
    
     All the best JF. Hope you find what you're looking for, before the
     huns get 9-in-a-row !
    
    

    
    	Good grief, JF's leaving. Good luck, mate. We'll miss you. ;-(  
    
    	Andy.

All the best JF - I always enjoyed reading your notes. But - garden leave in 
February?!

grahame

    Does this mean that Malc won't get a reply to his Bristol City queries
    ;^)
    
    Good luck, Stuart

    Hey there is nothing wrong with garden leave in February - when you
    live on the Cote d'Azur !
    
    all the best JF

    
    Au Revouir JF,
    
    Thank you for creating the football conference.  I think you deserve a
    medal for keeping it going.
    
    All the best in the future, hope to see mails, notes, home pages or
    something on the net from you.
    
    Loz.

    
    .108
    
    	Stuart, he's leaving the company just to get away from me !
    
    Nothing was ever personal JF, good luck in the future.
    
    Malc.
    

Bon chance , JF.

Have fun,

Stuart

    
    This conference is so difficult to access. Network excited... :-)))
    
    Hope it will improve next week, or I won't be excited at all :-(((
    

    The old problem with the football conference has cropped up again. Has
    someone create a new football.note in notes$library ? To access the
    notesfile you have to mod our football entry to
    TRUCKS::FOOTBALL.NOTE;-1.
    
    Brian

    
    Even better is to have trucks::football.note;1
    
    If someone creates yet another version of the conference then ;-1
    is no good.
    
    Neil

    Thanks Neil. I'm modifying my entry now.....

Isn't it quiet without Stratford, Stretch and those Leeds types? Just a little 
boring as well, but don't tell them I said so.

g

    re -1
    
    Ahem, some of us are in meetings.
    
    Stuart

    Grahame,
    I'm saving myself for Friday lunchtime. Unless of course Rick comes up
    with another great understatement as he is often inclined to do.
    
    As for Ian, he is keeping a low profile for a number of reasons !?!?!?
    
    Stuart is sunning himself somewhere else today. UK_MUSIC is a little
    quiet at the moment as well (unless you like Hawkwind forums !!!!)
    
    			Stretch.