Conference trucks::football;1

    
    My father came across the article and sent it to me here in Mass. It's
    probably old stuff to most of you, but it's a gold nugget on this side.
    
    (..can't believe I'm getting first reply...)
    
		Man of Substance with a Classic Style
		   Patrick Barclay, Toronto Sunday Observer, 28 July 1991


	Once upon a time there was a young football manager who wanted his
team to score with style. He was aware that all goals counted the same, and
that an awful lot seemed to come from set pieces; those would, of course,
be welcome. But he hoped his players would become known for finding the net
at the end of fine, sweeping moves. "I realise," he said,"that it may sound
like a fantasy."

	There were indeed fairytale elements about Liam Brady's appointment
as manager of Celtic, and the launching of his career with a series of
friendlies in Ireland, even if resulte were mixed. Upon arrival eight days
ago at Dublin, whose airport is a couple of miles from the estate on which
he was raised, he was greeted by young autograph hunters. "It turned the
clock," he said later, "In 1970, Celtic touched down here on their way to
play Waterford in the European Cup -- and I was one of those kids waiting
with their autograph books."

	Brady was but a glimmer in Arsenal's discerning eye then. Billy
McNeill, whose office he now occupies, was among the giants of Jock Stein's
great side that, four seasons earlier, had brought the European title to
Britain through a stirring enforcement of style. Few would remember Stein
as a fantasist, but before the triumph over Internazionale, he told the
The Observer's Hugh McIlvanney: "We don't just want to win this cup. We
want to win by playing good football, to make neutrals glad we won it."
Brady as he sets about fashioning his own contribution to Parkhead history,
at least starts with the same noble design.

	Though Celtic's tradition is to turn to sons of the club --every
previous manager, from Willie Maley to McNeill, had worn the green-and
white hoops of a institution founded by Irish immigrants to Glasgow --
Brady's background and eminence as a player gave him the status of a
favourite cousin. When he came to Parkhead with Juventus in 1981, he was
accouded a memorable reception. There are, however, few more reliable ways
of falling out of favour with a club than to become the manager, and if
football were not such an addictive drug it would be as surprising that
Brady, financiallyl independent since his return from Italy, had taken the
job as that Celtic had given it to a novice.

	In the programme for his testimonial match in Dublin last year, his
friend John Giles wrote: "Liam is 34, well balanced, well off and well
prepared for life after football." Brady, who had decided to restrict
himself to advising individual palyers, said of team management: "I don't
think I'm cut out for that." He began to suffer withdrawal symptoms after a
chat with Ossie Ardiles, then at Swindon. "I asked how he was coping with
the job. He said he loved it, every day of it, and considered winning as a
manager even better than winning as a player."

	Celtic's approach persuaded him to risk a slight stain on his
reputation. "It is Celtic," Brady pointed out, "who are taking the big
gamble. I'm confident I can put over to modern players the way I want the
game played. But if you're asking for first impressions, it's the other
side of the job -- dealing with the media, my board of directors, and so
on -- that frightens me."

	The past month, it seems, has confirmed warnings that Glasgow
football is not so much a goldfish bowl as a shark tank in which old
allegiances can still bite, for all the undoubted softening of Rangers'
sectarian edge. Even inside Parkhead there are tensions, money worries
induced by the evocative old stadium's galloping obsolescence while an
obligation remains to respond to Ibrox's spending on players. Celtic have
tried to get businesslike by engaging from outside industry an abrasive
chief executive, Terry Cassidy, alongside whom observers believe Brady may
find it difficult to work.

	There are no complaints thus far. The board promised reasonable
funds. Brady has been able to recruit his erstwhile client Tony Cascarino
from Aston Villa for L1.1 million, and saw promise in the blend of
Cascarino and Charlie Nicholas when Celtic began their tour with victory
over Shelbourne. Subsequent defeat at Cork, where he changed the team,
suggested that he will be seeking buyers for some players. Celtic struggled
last season, qualifying for Europe only after a surge too late to save
McNeill.

	Cascarino is there because of his strength in the air -- "We
believe in crosses in this country" -- but also to bring others into the
game. He would, said Brady, show that there is no contradiction between
this particular big man and a passing game. "Balls will be played to people
rather than into space. A lot of managers now are content to gain yardage,
on the basis that when the ball is far from your goal the others can't
score. I don't want that. I want players to express themselves."

	He wants to be the manager who brings forth to stardom the
eternally promising, 26-year-old Paul McStay, and believes Nicholas may yet
be refloated at 29. Fantasy? Perhaps, but no patron of footballing art
would wish Brady other than well in an age of 'prevailing mediocrity', to
use the phrase employed recently by Ireland's arch-critic Eamon Dunphy, who
said his compatriot's reputation as a great player had "survived the
evidence" largely because he was so adept at manipulating commentators.

	"I've no time for Dunphy,"said Brady. "I think he's filled with
envy. But, if the point of his piece was to ask whether I'm a man of
substance or a man of image, well, now we shall see."

    Does anyone know when the first Celtic - Rangers game at Parkhead is
    on?
    
    Paul

    I hear that Paul McGrath and Roy Aitken could be moving to Parkhead.
    
    Paul

    How much did Newcastle pay for Aitken?
    
    Villa have refused 750k for McGrath who's 32. It seems a lot of money
    for a guy with his injury history.
    
    
    Paul

        As a long-time Roy Aitken fan, I would have to say that he is well
    past it now. Celtic would be foolish to bring him back to Scotland at 
    any price. McGrath would definitely be a better buy. With his suspect
    knees, however, I would be pretty hesitant unless the price came down
    considerably.
         By the way, where are JJ and the other representatives of the SQF 
    CSC? No contributions yet from you lads for the reborn conference? How
    about match reports on the Dundee United and Dunfermline games? Gary
    Spain was kind enough to let me know that we won both. How did the side
    look?
                                                                 Dan 
    
    P.S Congrats to Gary and Dezz for getting the conference up and running
    again. It was tough to do without my usual football conference "fix"
    for the last week or so.
                            

    
    	Celtic 4 Falkirk 1
    
    Gillespie scored on his debut, I think Coyne got two but I don't know
    who got the other goal. Good result for Brady's men in their first
    league home game of the season, especially as Rangers were beaten
    by Hearts. :-) :-)
    
    gk.

    Re: attendance 32k+.
    
    Is the Parkhead capacity limited to 35K this season?
    
    
    Paul

    re.-1 
    
    Yes the stadium (?) capacity has been cut to 35,000 following a safety
    report by Stathclyde regional council.I think once the safety
    improvements have been made,then the capacity will be increased
    again,but to what,I don't know.
    
    Andy.

    
    Re.-2
    
    I believe the Rangers allocation of tickets for next weeks Old firm
    match was something in the region of 4,500 !
    
    Never mind all you Hunnites that cannot get tickets,at least you won't
    have to watch your team being gubbed by the bhoys for the 3rd time in a row.
    

    Come on JJ, surely not.  Enjoy the top spot in the league cause you
    won't be there after 31st August
    
    I don't suppose you guys will be daft enough to think all is fixed by
    buying Tony {noone else wanted me} and Dizzy gillespie ?  I just hope
    Gillespie plays as well at Parkhead as he did when I watched him in
    Turin.
    
    So how about a bet bhoys ?    Whoos prepared to bet me that Celtic will 
    finish higher in the league this season than Rangers. The looser has to
    pick any true fan he knows of the other side and take them for a drink
    wearing the team shirt of the enemy.
    
    eg Whoose gonna wear a Rangers shirt and buy me beer.
    
    Anyone got the courage to bet ?

    Any truth in the rumour that the notes after August have been deleted
    because you guys wish the season stopped then ?
    
    Any truth that youve bought the wigner Pat Nevin whoose recent
    performances have been so spectacular he was in the Everton 3rd team ?
    
    Great to have the notes back - eh ?

    
    
    Well I'm laughing anyway Denis - I've been on holiday since the old
    filrm game at Parkhead and I've been DREADING coming back and reading
    all the cr*p from you guys about how far you are ahead of Celtic blah
    blah etc...
    
    
    Ho ho ho!!
    
    Michael
    

    
    Celtic take on St.Johnstone at McDairmid Park Perth on Saturday,and
    nothing short of a victory will do.
    After losing to Aberdeen,Rangers & then dropping a point at home to
    lowly St.Mirren,I feel Liam Brady is about to find out that the Celtic
    fans aren't prepared to wait for success.
    
    Paul McStay is still out & there are injury doubts still hanging over
    John Collins and Gary Gillespie.
    In form Mike Galloway should hold down a place & there may be a suprise
    recall to the 1st team for out of favour striker Dariusz Dziekanowski
    & ex-Arsenal midfeilder,Martin Hayes.
    Both have been scoring regularly for the reserves & with Coyne being in
    dispute with Brady,and Nicholas showing a loss of form,they may play
    for the 1st team for the 1st time this season.
    
    Going by his current form,1.1 million pund flop,Tony Cascarino may face
    the chop as Brady attempts to get the bhoys back on song.
    

    Hello chaps,
    
     Following a year + of exile from the most important note in the
    conference,I detect a slight softening of approach from the public at
    large...however,it's dissapointing to have to record that the Bhoys
    appear to be playing the same dross as we were last year(after a
    promising start...).I suppose there is something to be said for 
    consistancy (is there ??)
     I can only hope that there are some wholesale changes at the club,as
    the current furrow appears only to lead to the gate at the end of the
    field and into oblivion.
     It appears that Liam will suffer from the same problems as celtic
    managers of the past,in that they are,in themselves,good enough guys
    but would appear resticted by the crap attitude of the people who know
    the code to the safe....the TV program last week "On the Line"
    highlighted this very well I feel.
    
     Who knows,who cares,who made the sandwiches ???
    
     Glad to be back but sad to have little to shout about.
    
     Cheers,McBillwhohasneverwornhisliverpooltopsincethebeastmovedsouth. 
                                                                        

    
    
    Hey, welcome back Bill - what's wrong - your car off the road or
    something?
    
    
    Michael
    

    I would like to take this opportunity to say I used to be a good
    Rangers supporter untill I seen the light.....Now a Celtic follower.
    
    
                                         Yours an Ex HUN....
    
    
    
         Fooled you all....!    You will never get me to support the Tims.
    
                                 A HUN UNTILL I DIE.........
    
                                 aye READY.....
    
    
    

          
         
         Re .18
         
         I would like to take this opportunity (not `oppertunity')
         to thank the Hun and the surrogate Hun (Jam Tart) for their 
         inputs. I'm only glad they were able to take advantage of my 
         account as they still struggle with the complexities of 
         logging on.
           
         
                            jim  sqf_csc...
          
         

    
    Oh dear!

    
    
    
    Penalty for Celtic after 15 mins.
    
    Nicholas scores     1-0
    
    

    
    
    After 39 mins.
    
    Nicholas scores again.
    
    
    

    
    Thanks for the update for us nightshifters at SQF.

    
    
    2-0 but hardly a convincing victory.   Could easily have been 2-2 if
    they had taken their chances.   Celtic's defence - especially in the
    air looked very dodgy indeed against third-rate opposition.
    
    They're not out of the woods yet.   Nicholas still looks the only
    player with any ideas.
    
    
    Michael
    

    could have been 2-2.surely some mistake.could have been 2-4.glad to see
    the best defence in scotland is still as shaky as ever.

    
    Re.last
    
    At least we won mate !!!......maybe not that convincingly I admit,but
    when you consider that none of the other Scottish clubs managed a
    victory(of any kind),then a 2-0 home win will do me very nicely.
    
    Anyway,back to more important matters than bickering with Huns.
    Celtic still look a shaky side compared to the one I saw beat Dundee
    United,Dunfermline & Falkirk at the start of the season.I feel Brady
    will need to dig deep & sign another three defenders.
    Gillespie has both skill and class,whereas Rogan,Morris & Whyte are
    sh*te (I'd play Galloway at the back before any of these three)
    Midfield should be okay when McStay returns along side Collins &
    Baggio 8*))
    Upfront,Charlie & Tommy Coyne still look capable of scoring and I must
    admit that it's about time Brady gave Jackie `Anuzzer vodka pleez'
    Dziekanowski a chance,as he's been scoring regularly in the reserves(&
    at Victoria's)lately.
    
    Airdrie on Saturday at home,followed by Hibs away & then Hearts at home
    btw,are Celtic's next opponents.
    
    Six points perhaps ????? 8*)))
    
    
    

    
     Rumour has it that Celtic are set to sign Scotland U-21 Central 
    Defender , Shaun Dennis from Raith Rovers .
     That is if they can afford the bail to get him out of Methil jail .
    
     

    RE.30
    
        Maybe 4 points JJ,2 from Airdrie and 2 from the SCUM from Leith.
    
       You'll get nothing from the JAMBOS

    
    Celtic.........3  Airdrie......1
    
    Miller            Black
    Galloway
    Nicholas(pen)
    
    
    

    JJ,
    
     Remember a conversation we had last season about loyal fans going to
    see a team even when they are lossing,well the 17,000 that turned up
    to see Airdrie may be loyal but what about the rest?
    
                                                        SCott

    What are the crowd sizes that watch the Premier Div teams in Scotland ?
    
    jb.

    
    Re.-1
    
    See topic 95.  Just been created to discuss crowds etc.
     

    does anyone have a fixture list for Celtic's remaining games this
    season ? Or , failing that , does anyone here in Ayr have a match
    programme from this season that I could photocopy the fixture list out
    of ??
    
    Thanks in advance ,
    
    Feargal .

    Feargal ????
    
    Don't tell me your going to start attending just when the sensible ones
    have stopped ?
    
    Truely masochistic.

    
    Scottish Premier league
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Hibernian......1  Celtic.......1
    
    McGinlay,81       Nicholas,39
    

    
                                 
    UEFA CUP 1ST ROUND SECOND LEG
    
    EKEREN 1 CELTIC 1
    (Agg:1-3)
    
    Mike Galloways 11th minute goal ensured that Celtic were heading for
    the second round without much trouble and by all newspaper reports
    were unlucky not to score an away victory.Let's hope we get a
    reasonable draw so that perhaps we can get a decent run in europe.
    Unfortunately we never managed to lose Morris and Grant on the trip and
    it looks like we'll have to put up with both meantime.
    
    JIM (SQF CSC).

    
    
    		Celtic play Neauchatel Xamax (sp) in the next round
    	Davie Doods ,the Elephant Man :-),used to play for them. 
    	Perhaps he will help Celtic with some information :-)

    Celtic...............3  Hearts...............0

    McNally 2               Robertson 20
    Nicholas 44 (Pen)
    Cascarino 68

    The scoreline flatters Celtic slightly in a match where Hearts were the
    better side for a large portion of the 90 minutes.
    Three brilliant saves from Pat Bonner,and a couple of dodgy decisions
    from the referee gave Celtic both points.
    To the goals however......

    No.1  A corner taken by Joe Miller in the 2nd minute,was met by young
          full-back Mark McNally,who bulleted a header past Henry Smith
          from around 15 yards.

    No.2  The equaliser came from John Robertson who chipped the keeper from
          18 yards after that Fud Derek Whyte (Again !!),made a blunder in front
          of goal.
    
    No.3  Tommy Coyne (going nowhere basically) was tripped just inside the
          box by Gary McKay. Charlie slotted home the resulting penalty.
          That's our 3rd penalty already this season btw !!
          And IMHO...Tommy must have been taking diving lessons from Ally
          McCoist.
    
    No.4  Coyne beat the offside trap & unselfishly played the ball through
          to the "Big Dumplin" (who looked suspiciously offside I hasten
          to add).
          The big Haddy almost made a **** of it by putting it away with
          the studs of his right boot.
          Every Celtic player (excluding Bonner) then proceeded to jump
          all over the big man,such was their excitement over him scoring
          his 1st goal for the club.
    
    
    The only other incidents worth noting were,apart from a brilliant
    Bonner save from Scott Crabbe in the 1st half,was the penalty &
    sending-off incident in the 2nd half.
    Cascafudbox clocked Craig Levein in the coupon,in ra boax.....the ref
    gave a penalty & sent the big Tube off after only being on the pitch
    for six minutes.
    Robbo hit the ball well,but Big Packy pulled off a marvellous save by
    parrying his low shot arond the post.
    
    Celtic now take on Motherwell at Fir Park on Tuesday,and with Cascarino
    suspended Vladivar Dziekanowski should get a place on the bench.
    He was supposed to be playing yesterday,but Liam couldn't sober him up
    in time for the kick-off,or get that tart from Victoria's off him
    either for that matter !!!
                                                                  
                                        

    JJ,
       Great note, fair brightened up Monday morning.  
    
       Pity about the score but

    
    Ahhhhh..so someone noticed my deliberate mistake 8*))
    
    So,I boobed......still not as many times as Arthur Montford though !
    
    

    
      Premier League.
      ***************
    
      Motherwell    0       Celtic    2
    
                            Nicholas,Coyne.
    
      
    

    
    Celtic............4  Dundee United.......1
    
    Nicholas 13,43       O'Neill 50
    Coyne 46
    Galloway 82
    
    Attendance 28,000
    
    
    I thought Celtic played some great football against Motherwell in
    midweek,but the stuff they played yesterday was even better !!!
    The passing game that Brady had been preaching about since taking over
    as manager,finally showed.
    A truly brilliant individual performance from Charlie Nicholas,coupled
    with very competent performances from Brian O'Neill & Mick Galloway had
    the Celts in easy street before half-time.
    Paul McStay had a good first game back in midfield & John Collins
    looked more like his old self with some excellent runs on the flanks.
    
    To the goals.........No.1 was a peach.......Coyne with a brilliant pass
    across the 6 yard line & Charlie slid in to blast home the opener.
    
    No.2.....A cross from John Collins,a nod down from Tommy Coyne & there
    was Charlie again to slide the ball home.  
    
    The third came just after the re-start when Derek Whyte burst
    through,only for the keeper to block his shot.
    The ball fell to Charlie who shot against the far post. The rebound
    fell to Coyne who blasted the ball home.
    
    Four minutes later,a Panty-lining header was pushed onto the post by
    Bonner,O'Neill hit the rebound,Bonner again managed to get a hand to the
    ball but couldn't prevent it from crossing the line.
    
    The last goal was the best I've saw this season.
    Mikey Galloway thumping a 30 yarder with his right foot into the top
    corner of the net.
    A definate candidate for goal of the season.
    
    Celtic had other chances to improve their goal difference,but failed to
    capitalise on at least three occassions.
    Charlie should have had his hat-trick,but his 1st touch let him down &
    the keeper saved at his feet.
    Coyne shot just wide from 15 yards & a Collins header was brilliantly
    saved by Van Kemp in the United goal.
    
    On this form (& I'm not getting too carried away with the last 3
    results),Celtic may just be in with a shout of the title this year
    after all.
    Aberdeen's form is indifferent,Hearts will bottle it in a couple of
    weeks.
    As for Hibs,as soon as Keith Wright gets injured,they'll stop scoring
    goals.
    And as for the Hunnites.......
    
    They're just crap 8*))
    

Reproduced without the kind permission of `Not the View'.
    
And yea & lo and thus did it come to pass in the land of Israel that Caeser
had been casteth into the wilderness by Job and the elders of the Tin,forever
to wander in the desert liken unto a camel with alzheimer's,and the keepers of 
Tin rejoiced,for they had once more smitten the Timmites.

And the Timmites saw this and were dismayed,for they believed that there was in
Job's temple,a place for Caeser.But it would not come to pass and Caeser went
among the loweset of the low and became a scribe,for truly as he were liken to
a camel with alzheimer's....he could still preach more sense than Chick Young.

And the Timmites once more put on their sackcloth and ashes and beseeched the
Lord saying,"Oh Lord,when shall we be delivered from the scurge of Job and the
Tin,for we have now spent many years in the wilderness and are truly pissed off
with the whole thing.

But the Lord could give no fixed date for the deliverence of the Timmites and
contented himself with moving in mysterious ways,liken to Tony Cascarino.

But Job and the keepers of the Tin saw the distress among the Timmites and they
spoke unto them thus......"Timmites,we bring you one who will lead you out of 
the wilderness,and he shall be calleth unto Li-Am-Bray-Dee,and we shall render
unto him all the sheckles in the Tin and he shall call us forth to smite our
enemies,as in the days of our ancestors.

And the Timmites saw this and they ceased their weeping and wailing and gnashing
of dentures,and they beheld the new messiah and they syeth unto him....."Truly,
there is but one Li-Am-Bray-Dee".

And Bray-Dee took unto himself a man to sit at his right hand,and he was known
to the Timmites as Ball-dee,and Bray-Dee spoke unto his people saying,"Lo,it is
time we did a bit of smiting here !"

And in the beginning he was true to his word and the Arabs were smitten,the
tribe of Pars likewise,and likewise too,the tribe of Bairns.And the Timmites 
saw this and rejoiced and sang hosannahs and cried,"Bring on the Hunnites".

But all too soon the Hunnites were there,and the Timmites were mightily 
smitten,for the Hunnites had among them one who was too mighty to be smitten,
and he was known henceforward among the Timmites as `That b*****d McCluskey.

And so,for the Timmites,the smiting ceased and once more they were smitten by
lowly tribes,and the Timmites saw this and were dismayed,and there were some
among them who believed Bray-Dee and Ball-dee to be false prophets.

But it came to pass that all the tribes of Israel had to gird up their loins
and do battle with the infadel across the sea. The shaggers of sheep were
smitten by the Kings of Porn.And thus were the Hammy of Hamsters Hunnites
smitten by the drinkers of vodka.........and truly were the Hunnites smitten
by the Spartacus of Prague,who rose up against them.

But the Timmites were not smitten,Indeed they done a bit of smiting themselves
for a change,and the Timmites rejoiced once more and they sang the praises of
Bray-Dee and Ball-Dee ans sang...."No Hunnites in Europe....until Jim McCluskey
referees a game there. For it is written in the scripture.

                           

    
    Hey !!!
    
    Am I the only Celtic supporter working at DEC ??
    Where have all the other regulars gone ??
    
    Celtic had four players on International duty in Poland tonight.
    Bonner,Morris & Cascarino for the Republic..........& Wdoywczk for the
    Poles.
    The final score was 3-3,with Cascarino scoring the 3rd & Bonner
    apparently to blame for at least one of the Poles second half goals.
    
    Celtic take on Falkirk at Brockville on Saturday,and let's hope Shuggie
    & Packy are fit for this difficult fixture.
    As for Morris & Cascarino ???.........
    
    Who cares !!!!
    
    

    Re:1
        JJ,
         Have no fear. You are not the only Tim working at DEC. This one is
    located on the other side of the Atlantic though, and really isn't
    close enough to Parkhead to comment regularly on the team's performance. 
    BTW it is nice to see that they beat Hearts, Motherwell, and Dundee United 
    recently and finally seem to be playing reasonably well. To be honest, 
    after the disappointments of the last few seasons, I find it hard 
    to get overly optimistic about their chances this early in the season. 
    Thanks for the regular match reports and team news. Keep up the good work.
                                                             Dan 
    
    P.S Is the first match against Neuchatel Zamax at home or in
    Switzerland? Is it scheduled for next Wednesday, the 23rd?

    Glad to see the back of McGinn. What's this bloke Kelly like......
    
    	- Robin

    
    
    Just while on the subject of Celtic players' performances in Irish
    shirts, Bonner's boob(s) the other night seem to be the latest in
    growing line of booboos he's making in Celtic's colours.
    
    I've only seen Celtic on TV this season, but it seems that every time I
    do seen them, Bonner is dropping cross balls all over the place.  I'd
    like to ask the Parkhead regulars (JJ) if they're still confident with
    Bonner between the sticks.
    
    
    Michael
    

    
    	Rumours are circulating that Celtic have just signed someone.
        - does anyone have any details ?
    
    	John.

    
    Falkirk 4 Celtic 3
    
    Re .59 There was a 17yr old who came on as sub today.I think he has 
           just been signed. I'll find out more from the sunday papers
           and update.
    
    

    
    Can anyone out there let me know the dates for the 3rd round of the
    UEFA Cup?
    If Celtic get passed Neauchetel.......I'm hoping to go.
    It'll all depend on the exact dates though,as I ain't got any hols left
    & kinda hoped I was on my 4 days off !!!
    
     

    
    Falkirk.......4  Celtic.......3
    
    Grant o.g.       Collins 
    Baptie           McStay 2
    Dunno
    Duffy    
    
    I won't even attempt a match report here,as I wasn't at the game.
    I was however wandering around Falkirk for an hour prior to kick-off
    trying to get a ticket though.
    
    Couldn't get one though,and had to spend the afternoon drinking beer &
    eating in Pizza-Hut.
    What a shame huh   8*))
    
    More from your roving SQF reporter next week after the St.Mirren game.
    
    

    
    	Is there any truth in the rumour that Paul Mcstay is going to
    Everton in exchange for Pat Nevin + cash ??????

    
    re .63
    
    Could be - Nevin was granted a transfer request yesterday and it's no
    secret that Kendall was/is after McStay. I heard rumours at the weekend
    that Kendall was interested in Celtic's Polish defender - Darious
    something-or-other.
    
    paul

    
     I don't think so Andy !!
    
     Nevin would'nt go to a second rate team like Celtic
    
     hehehehhehhehhheh

    
    
    	LATEST SCORE
    	NAUCHATEL XAMAX(sp)4 - 1 CELTIC

  NAUCHATEL XAMAX 5-1 CELTIC
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

    
    Well.........the inevitable has finally happened.
    The fans have known for years that our defence was *CRAP*....but the
    people who matter (Brady & the Board) decided to turn a blind eye to
    it.
    The result ?.......a 5-1 thrashing in the UEFA Cup by what can only be
    described as an ordinary team !
    Imagine if we'd ame up against a good Italian or Russian team last
    night ?.......I hate to think what the outcome might have been !!!
    
    Still.....there's always the return in a fortnight & I think we're
    capable of beating this mob 4-0 (Aye right !!)
    With Gillespie,Collins & Galloway back....I reckon we can do it....
    
    Win that is........probably 1-0 or 2-0  8*(( 

    How long do you think Brady will last as manager?
    
    Will the New Year's day game be his last chance?
    
    Paul 

    
    I'm really not too concerned about the Brady situation (not that one
    exists yet)right now......I'm bloody well more concerned about Paul
    McStay !!!
    
    I mean...the guy has came out on record stating that he was a bit
    disappointed at the road Celtic have taken since winning the double in
    1988,and that he would have to wait and see where the club was heading
    before he extended his contract (or not !).
    
    I'm led to believe that if Celtic were to win a domestic honour this
    season & have a good run in Europe,that he was prepared to sign on.
    Now,with virtually no chance of the league,almost out of
    Europe....we're left once more with the Scottish cup to play for ! 
    
    If I were McStay.....I'd be off right now !
    Things will never get better at Parkhead unless we buy a centre-half,a
    right full-back & a class act up front !
    And none of this 750K crap.......let's see 5 million or so being spent on
    these 3 players.
    If I could get Daley of Aston Villa,I would.......but as far as
    defenders go,then I haven't got a clue (a bit like Derek Whyte I
    suppose)
    St.Mirren at Paisley on Saturday (Now they're really pathetic),and I
    wouldn't be suprised if they go out & beat us !!
    

    
    Celtic are hoping to complete the signing of that excellent,legendary
    world class defender.....
    
    Alan McLeary ????? (Who !!!)
    
    Another short sighted signing by Liam `MY,DON'T I BUY SOME OVER THE
    HILL CRAP PLAYERS' Brady !
    
    Come on Liam........give us some real class players at Parkhead.
    Gillespie's not bad...but he's old & certainly not worth a million !
    Cascarino is just a big haddy.....and who the bloody hell is alan
    Mcleary !!??........From what I've read in the papers...he cannot even
    hold down a 1st team place at Millwall (yes....that team that gave
    Scottish football,Terry the Nutjob Hurlock !!
    
    Sign the correct players Liam....or don't sign ANY !!
    
    

	Perhaps Liam Brady could buy the other half of the Egypt national
	team that Neuchatal Xamax forgot to buy.

	The Fridge.

    
    Mmmmmmm......good idea !
    Do you think the Scottish Football league would up the quota of non-EEC
    players in Scotland from 10 to 20 to accommadate their favourite team
    then ?????
    
    

    Is there any truth in the rumour that Celtic are play the second leg
    against Nauchatel at Park Head wearing jeans ?????????????
    
    
    
    
    
                  LEVI 5 o 1's
    
    The Derby Ram.

    
    TEE HEE HEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    
    	Result
    
    
    	St Mirren 0	Celtic 5
    				(McStay, Coyne 2, Creaney and O'Neill)
    
    
    gk.

    
    St.Mirren........0   Celtic........5
                
                         McStay
                         Coyne,2
                         Creaney
                         O'Neill
    
    Don't be fooled by this result.......we were ordinary !!!!
    It's just that the Buddies were pure drivel,hence the flattering
    scoreline.
    Still,2 points & 5 goals for in our goals for column will do me everytime.
    
    St.Johnstone at Parkhead on Wednesday,then the Huns at Ibrox on
    Saturday.
    This is followed by Neuchatel & Aberdeen at Parkhead.
    Dare I say it.......6 points in the bag & a 3rd round UEFA Cup place
    booked ????
    The last time I mentioned a possible six points from three
    league matches (48.summinkorother)....I wasn't far wrong (we got 5 out
    of 6) !!!
    
    
                                                         

    IT MUST BE GOOD WHEN ANOTHER TEAM OF TIMS LIE DOWN SO THE SCUM CAN GET
    A RESULT TO MAKE THEM THINK THEY ARE A GOOD TEAM WHEN REALLY WE ALL
    KNOW THAT THEY ARE P..H
                             YOURS MASONICALLY
                                             BILLY THE PROD  

    
    Dear Neanderthal man,
    
    1) Stop shouting !!
    
    2) Glasgow Celtic Football Club being known as the Scum ?????
       Tut-tut,we'd better watch out that Rangers FC don't sue over
       the copyright for that one!!
    
    3) I see that Brain cell you share with the rest of the Huns down your
       way is still AWOL !!
    
    4) If you haven't anything constructive,humorous,or even slightly
       interesting to say...then please don't say it !! ( or better
       still,stick it in Topic 47 along with the rest of the drivel)
                                                                 
     JJ SQFCSC
    
     (Notice how I don't bring anything religious or sectarian into my
      signing off ?)
    

    Billy,
    
    Is it too much to ask you to use some punctuation?  If you're going to
    write drivel and then try to punctuate it properly at least people will
    think you've been to school for a while and are reasonably literate.
    
    Otherwise they might think.......
    
    
    yours secularly,
    
    Paul

    
    	Beats me why he even bothers, Paul....after all, no one takes
    	him seriously with comments like those 8-)
    
    	Andy ("black" yet civilised...)

     Anyone got a spare ticket for the match a Ibrox?

     Tony.

    HALF - TIME AT PARKHEAD .
    
           Celtic  2 - 0 St. Johnstone 
    
     Nicholas got at least one of them . 

    
    Celtic..........4   St.Johnstone........0
    
    Nicholas,2 (1 pen)
    Collins
    Coyne
    
    

    I see understanding and well being towards other people is currently
    out of fashion in McNoter land (as is 'i' rather than 'I'). Could it be
    that Rangers are playing Celtic this weekend ?
    
    Are the trains a mess when they get back to Ayr on the evening after
    the game ?
    
    jb.

    Please note that the numpty in .86 is an embarrassment to true Rangers
    fans.  There's no place for that crap.
    
    You can enjoy Celtic's probs without sinking that low.
    

    
    re: 88
    
    
    Fair comment.
    
    Paul

    
    re.86
    
    Tut-tut...such grammar from our poorly educated cretin.
    
    I imagine you would go for....Too pints of beer...or your two tired....
    ..or you would describe a 2-2 draw as to-to,also !!
    
    

    Well well who would have thought grammar and punctuation lessons in an Old
    Firm notes topic !!!....seems like the European City of Culture year has had
    some effect on the locals after all  :-)  :-) :-)
    Paul

    
    If you call living 23 miles East of Glasgow being local that is !!
                                               

    What time is kick-off on Saturday?
    
    Are any TV channels covering it?
    
    Paul

    
    Tomorrow's second Old Firm match of the 91-92 season kicks off at 3pm.
    Highlights are due to be shown on BBC1,but as far as `live' coverage is
    concerned,I do not know of any channel planning to cover the game.
    
    Richard `looks like I'll have to lay off playing with my toliet parts'
    Gough looks to be fit for the Huns,but John `Grunter' Brown is out
    injured.
    Celtic will give a late fitness test to Gary Gillespie before deciding
    if he plays or not.But with Wednesday nights game against Neuchatel
    approaching,I cannot see Brady risking him unless he's 100% fit.
    
    My team for tomorrow would be:
    
                                 Bonnar
    
              Morris  Gillespie(Whyte)  Galloway  Wdowcyzk
    
                    O'Neill  McStay  Fulton  Collins
    
                           Nicholas  Coyne
    
    Subs: Creaney & Grant
    

    
    	Rangers	1	Celtic	1
    	(Mcoist)	(Cascarino)
    
    I'll leave the match report to JJ,the SQF roving reporter.....
    

    Re:-1
      How about it then? Can we get a match report, JJ? Were we as fortunate 
    to get a point as the Ranger's supporter in note 47 indicates?
                                                              Dan 
    
  

    Re:-1
       Thanks for the unbiased, totally objective report, Mr. Roving
    Reporter! Nice to see that our leaky defence actually played well and 
    deserves some credit for the final result. BTW I like your predictions 
    for the upcoming matches, particularly the match against the Swiss team. 
    Much as I would like to believe it, I really can't see us pulling 4 goals 
    back in a European tie. Sad to say, but I believe that our disgraceful 
    performance in Switzerland has left us with just too much to do. 
                                                          Dan 

  Had to notch .100.


 1  I hear that the team for tomorrow has Saturday's starting line up with 
    Creaney and Cascarino on the bench.

    Looks as if there is no Gillespie ... might be a good thing.

 2  The game is on live on television but there still looks like being a 
    big crowd at the match.

 3. Middlesboro want a straight cash deal for Mowbray. I think we'll wait 
    and see how the game goes tomorrow before announcing whether we have 
    signed him or not. This should boost the crowd for Saturday.

   Tony.

    You surprise me Tom...... I thought you were different from the rest of
    the Hun Scumbags out there ?......seems you're just the same !

    Anyway,onto more important matters...........

    Celtic failed to overcome their 5-1 deficit from the 1st leg,and some
    of the blame must surely go to Charlie Nicholas for failing to convert that
    4th minute penalty.
    If that had gone in,I believe that the Xamax defence would have
    crumbled & Charlie's game wouldn't have floundered as a result.
    Joe Miller let us down badly,with yet another inept
    performance,although he did score our only goal.
    Missed chances by Collins,Cascarino twice,Coyne & Charlie
    again....along with another stonewall penalty claim being turned down
    by a stroker of a referee who never allowed the game to flow,meant that
    Celtic never really had a chance of qualifying for round 3

    The damage was done in Switzerland however,& Brady must take his share
    of the blame for the team he picked that night,and the tactics they
    played.
    It showed the man's managerial naivete,as he under estimated the Xamax
    team after claiming that "there weren't any mugs in Europe..."after we
    scraped through against Ekeren.
    I really do have a gut feeling that last night was Paul McStay's last 
    venture into Europe with Celtic FC.
    As much as I don't want him to leave,I feel that the lads bound to have
    had enough,and will move at the end of the season.
    I had the privelage of watching the maestro live last night,and he
    showed at long last the watching audience that he is indeed a truly
    class player,with an absolutely marvellous performance in midfield.
    There isn't a player in that Govan Hun Scumbag XI,who could lace his
    boots !
    
    Mind you,that Gypo Ferguson is a class act (Aye right !)
    
    8*)))
    
    Your SQF roving reporter
    
    V Aberdeen on Saturday,and now......a victory is a must !!!!

    
    I have to add a note here after watching that excuse for a football
    team last night and after reading that nonsense of the previous 
    note.
    1.Even if that haddie had scored no way were Celtic going to beat
      the Swiss, who were none to bad at the back and had two forwards
      who even on a bad day would run Celtic ragged at the back.
    
    2.The Swiss had a perfectly good goal chopped on for nothing,
     if anything it was a free kick to the Swiss after that dumpling
     Morris had handled.
    
    3.On the bright side if the Tim,s had managed to score the 4 goals
      the needed (pause for hysterical laughter) they wont now have been
      dreading the prospect of getting a real gubbin from a half decent
      European team.
    
                           the trim+formers....
      European team.

    
    
    re last
    
     Morris wasn't even playing on Wednesday night. Maybe you were watching
    a different game...

    Was Liam Brady bagged on the way home from the game?
    
    Shane

    
    re.105
    
    Well Neanderthal,
    I see since the last time you spouted nonsensical ramblings into this
    topic you've managed to stop shouting.
    However, I notice the old punctuation leaves a bit to be desired.
    Try going back to school for a few years (if indeed you were ever there
    in the first place) and perhaps we may just take your inane drivel more
    seriously.
    A few commas, the odd apostrophe & full stops in the correct place now
    & again wouldn't go astray.
    
    
    

    Re-1, I'm not a Celtic supporter nor a catholic but I must admit that 
    JJ has a point. SPC_John, you are a prize plonker and an embarrassment
    to the average Ger supporter on the street. 

    re.-2   
    What an excellent bit of noting there,and normally I would have replied
    in my usual satirical way.
    But this is the CELTIC FC topic,and I've no time to waste on cretins
    from 47 land....so without taking the bait from the illiterate
    one,I'll get straight down to the serious subject of noting (which is
    why we are supposed to be here in the 1st place,although from reading
    some of you-know-who's notes,you'd be excused for thinking otherwise).
    
    On Saturday,Celtic take on an Aberdeen side who have been blowing hot & 
    cold for most of the season.
    Their form has been on par with Celtic's regarding inconsistency,but
    without doubt,when on their game they are a formidable side.
    The Dutch quartet of Gilhaus,Van de Ven,Snelders & recent signing,Ten
    Caat,seem to be the backbone of the team.
    When these four are on form,they are capable of some excellent
    football.
    I feel the game could be won in midfield though,especially if McStay &
    Collins are on song.
    I'm still not too impressed with the defence just now,mainly because
    Wdowcyzk has played horrendously at left-back in the last couple of
    matches.
    However,new signing Tony Mowbray makes his debut tomorrow at
    centre-half & hopefully this will be the start of our defence improving
    to the extent that we stop giving away silly goals.
    Watch out for Gillespie coming back into the team as sweeper
    tomorow,with Galloway being a substitute.
    I'd drop Miller tomorrow,and play Fulton in midfield alongside O'Neil,
    Collins & the Maestro !
    
    
    
    

    
    	Latest score ,with just over 20 minutes left......
    
    		CELTIC 2	ABERSHEEP 1
    	CHARLIE & GERRY          JESS
    
    

    
    I watched the highlight's of the game on Saturday night, and
    I was wondering how Mowbury(sp) played.Also how did Brady play 
    him, as it looked to me he as if he was playing in front of
    Gillespie, who looked as if he was sweeping,but I might be wrong
    as you could'nt really tell on the basis of what was shown on telly.
    
     
    
                                                

    Celtic..........2  Aberdeen...........1
                 (H/T 1-1)
    Nicholas           Jess  
    Creaney
    
    Celtic deservedly took two points from a thrilling encounter with the
    Dons on Saturday.
    They totally dominated the 2nd half,and the TV highlights certainly
    didn't do them justice.
    They made it look an even match,but for the 70 minutes or so that they
    didn't show,Celtic had so much possession,the Sheep might just as well
    have gone home.
    
    Aberdeen only threatened Bonnar's goal on three occassions.
    The first was when they swcored against the run of play,when Gilhaus
    crossedd to the far post for Eoin Jess to slide the ball past Bonnar.
    The initial pass from Jim Bett was a Beaut,must I must say here &
    now,that if a man ever deserved to be sent off for bad tackles,it must
    surely have been him !!
    He committed at least three bookable fouls during the match,but yet
    George Smith chose to ignore this,coz Jim's a superstar,ain't he ???
    
    Their other two attempts on goal from the Dons,were a Gilhaus shot in the
    1st half that Packy did well to save,and a header late on from the big
    lanky gawk,Van Der Ark,which Bonnar again did well to save.
    
    The rest of the goalmouth action centred around Snelders goal.
    Firstly Coyne shot wide after being released by Nicholas. Then the same
    man again saw Snelders make a great save from his six yard shot after
    great work by Charlie.
    Celtic should have had a penalty when Ten Caat shoved O'Neil in the
    box,a minute later.
    Charlie scored the goal of the game when after being released by a
    brilliant McStay pass.....he shrugged off Irvine,nutmegged Watson &
    then brilliantly rounded Snelders before firing home.
    Debutant Tony Mowbray,playing centre-half in front of Gillespie,almost
    marked a memorable performance when he hit the junction of post & bar
    from 30 yards.
    The rest of the action came in the second half when Snelders had to
    look lively to save from Creaney & Nicholas before eventually being
    beaten by a cross from Coyne being bulleted home from around 8 yards by
    Gerry Creaney.
    
    Altogther,a deserved win for Celtic & we can now look forward to the
    jaunt to Tynecastle next Saturday to take two points of the over-rated
    Jambos 8*))
    
    
    

    Is the game against Rangers at New Year on the 1st or 2nd of January?
    
    What time is kick-off?
    
    
    best regards,
    
    
    Paul

    Is the game against Rangers at New Year on the 1st or 2nd of January?
    
    1st. January at Parkhead



    
    What time is kick-off?
    

    2pm.
    

    And I'll be there.......
    
    	- Robin

    
    
    Re .111
    
    "back to the serious matter of noting(which is why we`re here)"
    
                 Sorry,JJ, thought we were here to work,
                but obviously I`m wrong.
                                        Doogz

    Doogz,
    I meant why we're here in football notes....not at DEC !!
    
    And anyway,if we're here to work....what are you doin in football
    notes ???
    
    8*))

    
    Hearts........1
    Celtic........3
    
    Hearts gained revenge for their earlier league defeat at the hands of
    Celtic,by totally outplaying the Bhoys for most of the match.
    Celtic scored first through Coyne,against the run of play I hasten to
    add.
    Hearts fought back in the 2nd half to score goals through Levein,Wright
    & Crabbe.
    Hearts' second goal shouldn't have counted I feel,as Bonnar was fouled
    on the lead up to the corner which subsequently ended up in the back of
    the net.
    The ref (Sandy Roy)was a total w****r for 90 minutes. He put up with the 
    constant whinging of Levein & Robertson all day,yet had the audacity to 
    book two Celtic players for dissent !!
    He also booked three other Tims for their 1st tackles of the match,and
    overlooked Iain Baird clugging Coyne off the ball to the extent that he
    didn't even speak to the cuprit !
    
    Celtic take on Motherwell in midweek,and then Airdrie on Saturday &
    must look to taking 4 points from these games in order to maintain a
    serious challenge for the title
    
    Hearts,Rangers,Aberdeen & hibs all face each other in the coming week &
    points will obviously be dropped.
    
    

    RE-1
    
    JJ
       You forgot to add that the 1st tackle's were more a sending off
       offence rather than a booking.I must agree though,the ref was a 
       w***er who lost total control of the game along with the stand side
       linesman.
    
    
    
    
       Colin

    HAVING WATCHED THE BEGGARS ON THE BOX AT THE WEEKEND I WAS MOST
    IMPRESSED WITH THE CAVALIER FOOTBALL DISPLAYED BY THEM.CREANEY WAS
    EXCELLENT IN THE WAY HE TRIED TO SCORE.HE OBVIOUSLY MISTOOK D.FERGUSON
    FOR THE FOOTBALL.BRUTAL.MCSTAY LED BY EXAMPLE WITH A GREAT DISPLAY OF
    VIOLENCE.CANT SEE YOU LOT WINNING ANYTHING AGAIN.
    P.S. GLAD TO SEE THE DEFENSIVE PROBLEMS HAVE CLEARED UP.
    BIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

    
    	*please* don't SHOUT.......we can hear you fine!
    
    	Thanx.
    
    	Andy.

    re.-2
    
    SPC_JOHN reincarnated ????
    
    Celtic take on Motherwell tonight at Parkhead desperate for two points
    after their miserable display at Tynecastle last Saturday.
    They'll have to do without the services of new signing Tony Mowbray
    who's out with an achilles injury.
    Manager Brady has Derek Whyte & Dariusz Wdowczyk back,but also has an
    injury doubt over John Collins.
    
    The last time the two sides met in the league,Celtic won 2-0 at Fir
    Park with a very impressive display.
    
    Match report tomorrow...........  
    

    Apparently Liam Brady has concluded a deal on the transfer
    of Vinny Arkins from Shamrock ROvers.  Dundee United are entitled to
    50% of the transfer fee, reputed to be 80,000.  As part of the deal
    Celtic will also play ROvers in the RDS (approx another 50/60,000 in
    gate receipts.).  The Celtic board will not conclud the deal until a
    striker is offloaded.
    
    Arkins replaced Lee Power of Norwich in the Irish u21 team last year. 
    From talking to someone who was at the game, Celtic could be getting a
    bargain as Arkins was far more impressive than Power.  QPR bid 500K for
    Power last Friday.
    
    SHane
    	

    Here we go last of the big spenders.
    
    Who gets offloaded then, there is certainly plenty to choose from !
    
    Love the bit about Jackie not giving a toss cause he's gotta 
    girlfriend - think about it

  Bit of a slip by the scoreboard operator last night when he listed Hans 
  Gihaus as the sub for Motherwell.

  Now there's a thought .... if we could sign him , add a bit of pace up front.

  Re. the goals Motherwell scored.

  #1. We may be playing the passing game but someone should tell Galloway 
      and O'Neill ( two really bad games in a row) tha tthey are also allowed
      to tackle.

  #2. Paddy should be shot.
      He has the ball, bumps into Arnott , drops it and Arnott rolls ( not 
      blasts as previously stated) the ball into the net.
  

    
    re-> 122
    
    	Obviously this person is BRAINDEAD!!!!!
    
    	If you can't be constructive ,stick to your own topic .

    re.128
    
    My aplologies Tony......from where I was standing in the jungle (behind
    Big Fra,the 6 foot mad man bawler),it looked like Arnott thumped the
    ball into the net for his second,but I'm obviously wrong.
    
    As for Bonnar.......after that performance last night,he should be
    dropped for Saturday's match.
    The big man's had no competition for a place for years,so perhaps the
    jolt will do him good.
    I've heard Marshall isn't much better though,so who knows ??
    
    BTW...Did you have enough tickets for the Hearts match ???
    

    
    Re.BTW...Did you have enough tickets for the Hearts match ???
    
    We had four but were able to get one outside the ground.

    What about tickets for the A .. bah ...deen game on the 28th DEC
    or the St Johnstone game at McDermid park?
    
    Any contacts?

    Regards,

    Tony.

  
 

    Tony,
    
    I've only managed to get a ticket for Perth once since the new stadium
    opened.
    As for Pittodrie........It's been 5 years since my name was drawn from
    the hat for a ticket up there !!
    
    I should be OK for one ticket for myself for Perth this time,but as for 
    Aberdeen...well I'm not confident at all about getting my hands on one.
    
    My supporters club give two points every time you attend the game,and
    come important/low allocation matches....the ones with the best
    attendance get the tickets.
    
                              

    
    Scottish Premier League 23-11-91
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Airdrie...........0  Celtic..........3
    
    Att. 14,500          Cascarino 55
                         Coyne 75
                         Creaney  84
    
    

    
    With no game in midweek,the Celts are next in action against
    Dunfermline at Celtic Park on Saturday.
    The Pars will have their tails up after picking up 3 out of 4 points in
    their last two games.
    Celtic certainly can't afford to take any chances against the
    so-called-underdogs.....just ask Rangers FC.....(had to get that one
    in)....and must go into this game the same way as they did gainst
    Airdrie,and that is to fight & match the opposition in terms of effort.
    
    Nicholas,Collins & Mowbray should be back in the team at the expense
    of Miller/Casarino,Grant & Whyte.
    I've got a sneaky feeling Gordon Marshall may just keep his place in
    goal ahead of Pat Bonner,but then again,Brady is such a confusing chap
    he'll probably bring big Packie back !!!!
    
    Chairman Kevin Kelly today announced that they intend to keep McStay at
    Parkhead even if it means making him a millionaire (but does he mean
    McStay or himself ?????)
    Personally I'll believe it when I see it.But as I said in the Everton note,
    I don't think the money is foremost in the Maestro's mind.
    If he does leave,then surely he's worth more than the over-rated Platt,
    Gasgoine or Twevu Steevin ????!!!!!
    
    P.S.
    
    I see the huns got beat on Saturday 8*))))))
    
               

    re 48.135, how can you possibly be three points behind yourself??

    
    
    Scottish Premier League 30-11-91
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Celtic............1   Dunfermline..........0
    
    Coyne,31mins.
    
    
    Next match v Hibernian,Celtic Park 4-12-91
    
    

    Re 48.137, you're all at least 3 points behind the league champions
    elect....HEARTS!!!!!
    

    
    Scottish Premier League 5-12-91
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Celtic..........0  Hibernian........0
    
    Attendance: 22,000
    
    
    Celtic totally outplayed a Hibs team content on playing for a point,but
    failed to turn their superiority into goals.
    Some excellent goalkeeping by 40 year-old John Burridge in the Hibs
    goal,and some absolutely pathetic finishing from Tommy Coyne kept the
    match scoreless.
    
    Their were no real stars in last night's match,but plenty of duds.
    Wdowczyk was playing like a wally,when he was thankfully substituted
    after picking up an injury.
    Galloway had a good game in defence,but his passing was an absloute
    nightmare. Nicholas looks to have put on a stone in the last two
    weeks,while John Collins looked like a million pound flop when he came
    on as a sub.
    Brian O'Neill came back into the team after being rested recently,but
    failed to make any impact.
    Injury prone Gillespie again had to leave the field early after picking
    up a thigh strain. He was replaced by that p***k Morris.
    
    Burridge of Hibs had three top class saves from Coyne,Nicholas &
    Cascarino.
    
    Last nights team:
    
    Marshall
    
    McNally
    Wdowczyk  ( Collins )
    Whyte    
    Gillespie ( Morris )
    
    O'Neill
    McStay
    Galloway
    
    Cascarino
    Nicholas
    Coyne
    
    

    
    DUNDEE UNITED 1  CELTIC 1

    
    Celtic's league challenge will either flourish or come to an abrupt end 
    between now and the New Year,when they face the following sides....
    
    St.Mirren    (home)
    St.Johnstone (away)
    Aberdeen     (away)
    Rangers      (home)
    Hearts       (home)
    
    The way our strikers (& defence) have been playing lately,I think we
    may just be struggling.
    However,if you take a close look at the opposition...
    
    St.Mirren  (Should take two points without any problems)
    St.J'stone (Poor league from,but always capable of getting a result
                against us at McDairmid)
    Aberdeen   (Ccurrently playing crap,but always seem to raise their game
                against us !)
    Rangers    (Garbage form at home,but playing some great football away.
                I think it'll be a gutsy performance that'll be needed to
                beat them,rather than skilful one)
    Hearts     (The in-form team at the moment. A win is a must against 
                them,as they're now 7 clear of us in the championship race.
                I think we may just raise our game enopugh to take two
                points from this one)
    
    
    All will be revealed come January 2nd !!
    
    

    
    
    Scottish Premier League 14-12-91
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Celtic............4  St.Mirren............0
    
    Collins              Att. 16,441
    Creaney,2
    Lambert o.g.
    
    One of Celtic's lowest attendances of the season watched yet another
    lacklustre display at Parkhead.
    If it hadn't been for a double substitution of Miller & Creaney for
    Charlie & the big haddy,we may well have lost the match !
    The score was 0-0 at the time,and St.Mirren were looking by far the
    more dangerous side,when Brady decided to make the change.
    Within a minute,Miller had beaten two men & crossed for Collins to
    volley home the opener,followed in quick succession by three goals in 5
    minutes.
    Creaney scored with two point blank headers after brillaint work by
    Miller,and poor Paul Lambert headed home another after a great Miller
    cross.
    
    The final scoreline flatters believe you me. Here's hoping
    Mowbray,Gillespie,Wdowczyk & Galloway are all available for the next
    four matches !
    
    

    Here's wishing all in this note a happy Christmas and hope the New year
    starts well.
    
    Paul

    
    
    What have Freddie Mercury and the Celtic support in common?
    
    None of them will sing "We Are The Champions" ever again.

    
    CELTIC 1	RANGERS 3
    

    re -1
    
    Not a surprise to you surely ?

    No not really a surprise,although I do feel that we were very unlucky
    on the day and indeed could have won the game.
    I believe that Liam will build a succesful side at Celtic in the near
    future..although I fear that it will be without Paul Mcstay.
    
    ps.
    
    4.1.92
    
    CELTIC 1 HEARTS 2
    
    
    

    
      I don't know about unlucky,Celtic only had 2 shots on target.I
    thought Celtic had a good spell the last 10 of the first half and first
    15 of the second half.If you do lose Paul McStay It'll will be very bad
    for you as he was the best player on the day.One big misstake was
    playing Cascarino he had 2 good chances and never even got a shot in.
    But as soon as Creaney come on he worried the Rangers defence.What was
    your opinion on the Hand ball and the Penalty?.
    
                                                     SCott

    On the subject of penalties I want to know why Hearts did not get one
    when Marshall nearly killed Scott Crabbe in the box. What to goal
    keepers have to do to get sent off or booked? Crabbe was penalised for
    foot up but his foot was a lot lower than Marshall's!! Marshall reminds
    me of the infamous West German keeper in the West Germany Vs France
    world cup semi final. 
    
    On the game as a whole Cetlic were flattered by the score. If Hearts
    had not eased off in the last quarter the score could have been 0-4
    instead of 1-2. I admit that Celtic had the most of the first 30
    minutes but that only created one chance which was brilliantly saved by
    Henry Smith.
    
    Hearts were already starting to dominate the match before Galloway was
    sent off. 

    I thought that Hearts would've got a penalty for the Marshall incident
    too, but Celtic also had a claim denied in the first half (tackle from 
    behind in the box, names escapes me). 
    I thought Celtic had the best of the first half but didn't create
    chances but were also not under any pressure (apart from 1 or 2
    breakaways) however the 2nd half was different. When Hearts hit their
    'purple patch' they destroyed Celtic and looked like a team wanting to
    win. 
    I think the loss of Mowbray and Galloway (less so) was the turning
    point. Galloway could be a very good player if he learns to control
    himself, the sending off was fully justified. The Hearts played
    (marking Galloway) didn't deserve a booking when Galloway fell over
    him. I now see why the Tic fans wan't McStay to stay, he's in a
    different class. As for Cascarino, I don't think I've ever seen such a
    donkey in my life. He was worse than useless......
    
    Apart from getting soaked I enjoyed the game.
    
    	- Robin

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                             -< Jambos stroll on >-


   Theres only one Pattison I know of that's a Hearts fan.... 
   So where the hell have you been, Dad?

   David 

    St Johnstone 2  Celtic 4
    
    Anyone know who scored ?
    
    Also, Martin Hayes has been given a free transfer. He cost Celtic 650,000.
    
    	- Robin

>>    Anyone know who scored ?

    McStay,Gillespie,Collins,Creany(?)

    Don't know about the St. Johnstone goals, mind you.

    
    St.Johnstone.........2  Celtic.........4
    
    Arkins 68               McStay 28
    Wright 84               Gillespie 74
                            Coyne 77
                            Collins 81
    
    
    Celtic are away to Motherwell on Saturday by the way,and were drawn at
    home to Jim Leishman's Montrose in the 3rd round of the Scottish Cup
    at the weekend.
    
      

    
    
    JJ.   Still awaiting your report on the two previous games.
    
    
    

    
    Aye.......watch me !
    
    

    
    Scottish Premier League  18-2-92
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Dunfermline.........0  Celtic.........1
    
    Att. 9,046             Coyne,24
    
    Didn't make it to the match today,so no report I'm afraid.
    Dziekanowski & Walker scored for Bristol City & Bolton Wanderers
    respectively today.
    

    
    I hate to admit it openly fellow noters, but big Tony `The haddy'
    Cascarino looked a right fud today competing in the Tennent's Sixes.
    
    
    Some results from Celtic's group matches:
    
    Celtic.......4  Partick Th......0
    Celtic.......5  Dundee Utd......2
    Celtic.......5  Falkirk.........3
    Falkirk......4  St.Johnstone....6
    
    Didn't pay much attention to the rest, except for Dundee Utd beating
    St.Johnstone 10-9 on penalties
    Last group match tomorrow night v St.Johnstone. The Tic are already
    through to the knockout stages, tomorrow night will see who joins them
    from Group A.
    Group B matches are tonight between Hearts,Hibs,Motherwell,Airdrie &
    St.Mirren
     
          

    
    For our overseas readers (and to give me something to write in this
    topic that everyone else seems to have forgotten the number too !!):
    
    Celtic won the Tennents Indoor six-a-side soccer tournament on Monday
    last.
    Their final group qualifying match ended up in a draw, 3-3 against St.
    Johnstone.
    The then disposed of Motherwell 8-5 in the semi, to face St.Johnstone 
    again in the final after the Perth men had disposed of the
    Hunswithootthebusfarefae Edinburgh in the other semi.
    Celtic went on to lift the trophy by defeating the Saints 4-2.
    Joe Miller won the man (or boy !) of the tournament scoring 10 goals in
    the process. 
    
    God, here's hoping for an emphatic win today so I can have something
    remotely interesting to write tomorrow !!
    
    
    

    
    Tennent's Scottish FA Cup 3rd round
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Half-time result from Celtic park:
    
    Celtic.........3  Montrose.......0
    
    Creaney
    Coyne,2
    
    

    
    Tennent's Scottish FA Cup 3rd round
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Full-time result from Celtic park:
    
    Celtic.........6  Montrose.......0
    
    Creaney, 3
    Coyne, 3
    
    
    

    RE -- the sixes 
    
    	Who said we would not win anything eh!!!
    	

    Whats the latest on the decision between developing Celtic Park, or
    moving to a new ground ??
    
    Paul

    
    Still awaiting a decision as yet Paul.
    I'll keep you posted on any developments, if I'm not claiming my old
    age pension by then 8*)
    
    

    Liam Brady suggested that Paul would not be moving then contracted the
    statement when confronted by the audience on Question of sport the other
    night.
         

      I take it that there aren't any tears being shed about Cascarino's
    departure? As I understand it, he has gone in a straight swop for Tom Boyd 
    of Chelsea. Any reactions? Is Boyd worth it? After all, we spent a million 
    pounds + on Cascarino. 
                                                                Dan 

    Don't know about Boyd but Cascarino was dreadful IMHO. He just
    moped about waiting for headers, anything on the ground and he was
    useless. He didn't even try. It was obvious from the beginning that 1M 
    was a waste of money. Did Tommy Boyd play previously at Motherwell ?
    
    	- Robin

    
    I don't normally write in here but I thought this was amusing and
    may annoy some of you lot. It was a point the Brian Dempsey was
    questioned on about the site that he had proposed (while still
    on the board) for the new stadium. The chap asking the question
    was quoting figures around the 1.6million mark for the site alone
    and said that Celtic knocked it back because the were well informed 
    that the economy was in a bad state and land prices would drop and
    have done. The banter went back and forth and eventually Mr Dempsey
    said quite calmly that he was on the board of Celtic at the time and
    it would have been in his best interests as a director and because
    he could afford it to give the land to the club for free. 
    	Yet another piece of tremendous business on the parts of the
    White's and the Kelly's.
    
    GORDON... 

    
    You're quite correct Gordon............
    
    You don't normally write in here !

    
    
    
    Anybody got the Cup result against Dundee Utd...?

    
       Celtic  2    Dundee Utd.  1
    
       Creaney,     Pantylining.
       Coyne.
    

    
    Scottish Cup 4th round
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Celtic.........2  Dundee United......1
    
    Creaney,24        Pit-a-line-oan,28
    Coyne,84
    
    Celtic came out tops in this thoroughly entertaining cup tie at
    Parkhead after totally dominating the match for most of the 90 minutes.
    Really the scoreline does them an injustice. They had so much
    possession, they were virtually camped in the United half for at least
    90% of the play.
    However, the ususal, our failure to turn our superiority into goals was
    once more there for everyone to see.
    Creaney had three excellent chances in the opening quarter, and Coyne
    likewise.
    The goals when they did come were far from spectacular.
    A cross from the left, Van de Kemp in the United goal fluffed it, and
    there was Creaney to head home from all of 8 inches.
    United's equalizer came out of the blue. Jim McInally taking a knock
    down from a header on the edge of the box, loosing control, only to see
    the ball break to the Fat Finn who wrong footed Marshall with a right
    foot shot.
    From my reckoning, that's the 1st goal the big man has let in, in 552
    minutes of football.
    Celtic laid seige on United's goal for the rest of the match, apart
    from a breif 5 minutes respite mid-way through the second half.
    The inevitable happened six minutes from time, with United looking to
    take the game to a replay (weren't they always ?).
    A cross from Miller on the right, and there was Tommy Coyne to notch
    his 19th of the season by outjumping two defenders to nod the ball past
    the off balanced keeper.
    
    
    

       JJ,
        Any special reason why the game against Dundee United was played
    last night? Aren't the Fourth round cup games being played this
    Saturday, the 15th? BTW did Tom Boyd play last night, or is he
    cup-tied?
                                                           Dan 
    
    P.S Now that Cascarino is gone, is there any talk about buying another
    striker? Based upon your match report, we continue to have problems 
    converting our chances in front of goal.

    It was moved from saturday to allow live coverage by satellite TV.
    The rest of the 4th round is this Saturday as you said. Boyd was
    cup-tied.
    
    Kev...

    Why was Boyd cuptied ?  Surely he has not played in Scotland this
    season. Is there a time round signings for the Scottish Cup?

    Sorry, not cup-tied, but I don't think his registration was in the
    statutory 14 days previous to the cup tie.
    
    Kev..

      Re:- last few
         Thanks for the info. 

    I've just found this conference. Hello everybody !!  I'll come clean
    straight away and tell you all I support Celtic. 
    
    Could the panel give us their views of the possible takeover of the
    Celtic Board by Canadian Jim Doherty ?
    My personal view is that anything is better that the present Junta.
    Even better is that Doherty has said that "it is fair to assume" that
    if he takes over, there will be no room for Terry Cassidy.
    
    Mark
    

    
    Mark,
    Any kind of shake-up of the current Parkhead board would be a vast
    improvement on what the long suffering faithful have had to endure
    since the reign of Desmond White as club chairman.
    
    However, Doherty didn't endere himself to the fans on Last Friday nights
    Scotsport extra-time programme, when he blurted out his intentions to
    that well known Hun scumbag, Gerry McNee.
    I believe some things had to be said immediately, but to say them to
    this clown was not the correct thing to do.
    
    I hope Doherty, Low & Brain Dempsey all win palces on the board, mainly
    because they are good business men, intelligent & forward thinking........  
    ............but mainly coz they've got cash that they are willing to
    inject into both the team & a new stadium.
    
    Heres hoping
    
    

    21.02.92
    
    	Hibs	0	Celtic	2
    			charlie
    			Creanie

    HI ALL,
    	   It is nice to see that the boardroom-ballyhoo has not affected
    	the recent good run of performances by the team (8 games without
    	defeat, 20 goals for and only 3 against),who once again showed that
    	they are by far the best footballing side in the country (even
    	under very difficult conditions against Hibs).As far as the power
    	struggle is concerned, there are only two things that worry me
    	as follows;
    
    	1) Will it influence Paul's decision whether to stay or go.
    
    	2) Will it give the board another excuse to postpone the stadium
    	   anouncement.
    
    	Personnally I think they should cut the c**p and install seats at
    	Parkhead similar to what is happening at Hampden because let's face
    	it, you spend less than 1% of your annual time at a football ground
    	and most fans would stand on their heads to see good football, 
    	winning performances and trophies.We've always been the poor
    	relations off the park compared to Rangers in terms of hard cash
    	and that is not going to change overnight no matter who is elected
    	to the board (I thought being the heroic underdogs was part of our
    	heritage).
    
    	On the playing front I feel Brady is now getting his act together
    	combining a passing game with good old fashion agression and a will
    	to win.I'm hopeful that we can win the Cup and finish in second
    	place in the league.
    
    		Comments/criticism much appreciated.
    
    			Yous in Celts, Eddie  

    RE 181,
    
          Just read your note on the new board ect..Although Ifind it 
    understandable why diehards like yourself find Gerry McNee a bit of a 
    muppet ,if it wasnt for the media in general, and this man in
    particular,the old foggies currently on the Celtic board would just
    keep on trundling along with none or very little pressure on them.
    At the moment the media is the best allie that the Dempsey and co
    have got.
         Remember it was media pressure that forced change at Ibrox about
    6 years ago .
         Anyway this note is written by one pissed of Ayr fan who knows
    just what its like to have a totaly useless board,and if only Gerry
    Mcnee was in our corner 4 years ago ,one Mr David Murray would be the
    proud owner of a premier league Ayr Utd.....
    
    
                    
       Graeme McDonald
    
    
    P.S best of luck the league needs a strong Tic... 

    Hi,
    
    I am in total agreement about the playing side just now at Celtic.
    Liam has the basis of a very good Celtic team and he should not be
    judged this season.I think that over the next 2-3 seasons that we will
    see the reasurgence of Celtic as a major footballing force is Scotland
    (maybe we can even do better in Europe).I now think that our defense 
    is probably the best it has been in years(pity Paul Elliot had to go)
    ,our midfield is strong and our front players are doing a good job.
    I think that Paul Mcstay will sign another contract with Celtic and 
    probably finish his career at Parkhead.
    Now to the boardroom war.............
    IMHO its about time the club had shares made available to the general
    public.We need vast amounts of cash and some drastic (and long overdue)
    action must be taken.The current board members are in some bloody state
    and this does not augur well for the critical period that has now
    arrived.
    Recently there has been to much slagging of one certain gentleman named
    gerry.Imho he does critisise Celtic alot but he also treats other teams
    the same way when there are problems which he thinks should be
    reported.Dont get me wrong...I don't like him or his style ,but I
    believe that he is only trying to bring difficult topics to the publics
    attention.Poor sod.
    
    	rgds Andrew.

    
    	HEARTS	1		CELTIC	2
    	(Robertsons Pen)        (Creaney 2)
    
    	Yet another 2 points at a difficult ground.
    	Nine games without defeat (22 goals for,4 against).
    	This all but ends Hearts chances of the league and although 
    	it would be better to see them win than the huns, not at Celtic's
    	expense.

    
    
    re.-1   I think the final was in 1989.....(1990 was against Aberdeen).
    
    
            Andy.
    
    
     

    
    Scottish Premier League 14-3-92
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Celtic.........1  Aberdeen..........0
    
    Collins,75
    
    

    
    
    Last nights game 
    
    	Celtic 4	Motherwell 1
    	chas 		who cares
    	gerry
    	wee joe
    	paul

    CELTIC                 MOTHERWELL

    Nicholas 7             Arnott 9
    McStay  12 
    Creaney 56
    Miller  80

  
    Nicholas - goal #20 for the season - 100 in all Premier Games
               great volley from a Creaney knock down.

    McStay   - Good worked goal 

    Creaney - goal #20 for the season - good worked goal in a totally 
              Celtic dominated second half.

    Miller - tap in after good work from Coyne.
     

    Where exactly are Celtic in the league ?? Come to think of it, what
    does the actual table look like ??
    
    K.

    
              Pld  Points
    RANGERS    36      59
    HEARTS     35      52
    CELTIC     36      50

    Hearts lost at Aberdeen last night, putting the 'tic 2 points behind
    Hearts, both teams having played 36 games.  With the momentum the team
    has (12 games without defeat, 10 straight wins in a row), surely the
    Bhoys will finish second place in the league.
    
    Full marks to Liam and the Bhoys.
    

    They sure won't be second on Saturday night though !

Denis,

 You must have had an attack of the sun in VBO ( or maybe the drink),
 suggesting that, as a noted Rangers fan, Rangers will be second on 
 Saturday night.


     "...... they won't be second on Saturday night"

  I am assuming after all that you can count and the fact that Celtic are 
  two points behind Hearts , and Hearts may or may not win on Saturday, then 
  Celtic will still be two points behind Hearts or at best , even on points 
  but behind on goal difference.

  o.-)

  Tony.

    
    nay need tae worry Celtic ill still be two points behind the Jambos
    come saturday nicht.
    
    
    shift D Jambo.
    
    
    

    ok lets try again !
    
    Aaafter Saturday Rangers will be Championees. Because they will be
    another four points clear of second placed Hearts because ....
    
    Hibs will stuff Hearts and ...
    
    Rangers will {yet again} beat the Tic.
    
    or does anyone have an other theory ?

    Hearts will gub the SCUM from Leith on Saturday and Celtic will draw
    with Rangers,setting themselfes up nicely to beat Rangers in the semi's
    of the scottish cup a week on wednesday.
    
     a HEARTS v CELTIC  final in May
    
     SQF Jambo

    
    	Result from the final Old Firm league game of the season
    
    	Rangers 0  Celtic 2
    		   Nicholas 34 min
    		   Creaney 57 min
    
    	gk. 

    HI ALL,
    		Referring back to Mr Readie's predictions in note 48.200,
    	I have just one thing to say;
    
    	DON'T INVEST YOUR LIFE SAVINGS AT THE STOCK EXCHANGE!!
    
    	Roll on the cup tie!!!!!!!
    
    		Cheers	to the Bhoys,	Eddie

    
    Hi,
    
    What a performance,this proves that Liam has made a big difference
    and that Celtic are returning to past form.
    
    	It will be the same outcome in the cup.

    Andrew,
    
    You were so confident of a Celtic victory - you should have put some
    money on it !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Martin.

    RE-1
    
    I would have if the coupon "team" hadn't ganged up on me.Never mind
    I had a bet on with Colin "yis have got no chance" Phillips.
    Money,Money,Money........

    
    Celtic totally outplayed a lacklustre Rangers outfit to take their
    unbeaten run to 13 games.
    However, as usual, the bias press & media decided to make more of an
    issue over the alleged damage to the seats in the Broomloan Rd stand
    than to praise the Bhoys for a 1st class performance.
    Even that pratt Hun Gerry McNee had to come out with the classic....
    "Rangers were minus the influential Richard Gough of course...."
    statement at the end of the match analysis with Gordon McQueen on
    Sundays Scotsport, in an effort to detract from a fine Celtic win.  
    
    Never mind lads, the only way to shut that lot up permanently is to
    continue doing the business on the park.
    A victory over Dundee United on Saturday will do for starters, then
    another mauling of the Govan Scum next Tuesday should keep their traps
    shut for a few weeks at least.
    
    

    
    Hello there my wee neebs. I posted the following in the Gers
    topic. I've had an answer but just wondered what you Kelt 
    supporters thought.
    
    
    
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    I'm aware of the Catholic/Protestant thing between Rangers and
    Celtic but which one is which ?? Is it......
    
    Rangers = Catholic
    
    Celtic = Protestant
    
    In my opinion I think Rangers made a mistake getting rid of Mo
    Jo as I believe he was the best player Rangers ever signed. 
    
    Is it not possible for the Huns and the Tims to live together ?
    
    JN.

    
    I don't beleive that today,there is really any religious hatred between
    the rival fans.It's all in good heart and no hard feelings exist.
    Sure there is slagging and shouting at the games and in the pubs but
    most fans see it only as a chance to give the other a good ribbing.
    Ofcourse there are the few biggoted nutters still out there,but the
    less said about them the better,who really cares about them anyway ?
    
    rgds Andrew

    
    Andy,
    
    Wise up !!!
    
    There are thousands of bigots supporting both Celtic & Rangers & there
    is an abundance of religious hatred amongst them & there always will
    be.
    This has been going for years and will continue to do so.
    Fathers & grandfathers will continue to pass this hatred onto
    generations blindly.
    As long as there are Orange walks & pro-IRA demonstrations allowed in
    Scotland, this will never cease.
    

    
    Well put JJ,
    
    Scotland has too many mindless morons (the majority being Rangers fans
    I hasten to add).
    Congratulations to Celtic on a terriffic performance on Saturday.
    They really were a joy to watch, and their fans (apart from being a
    bit naughty at the end of the game), reall were an inspirationb to
    their side.
    They showed the majority inside Ibrox just how to go about supporting
    your side.
    
    But, we'll still win the league (although I don't fancy our cup chances
    much).
    
    Rab F
    

    Re.207
    
    Come on JJ be fair, if McKee hadnt mentioned that the influential Gough
    was missing, he would have been accused by Gers supporters as being
    pro-Celtic..its virtually impossible in Scotland to be percieved as
    neutral, when it comes to Old Firm matters.
    
    Apparently Mowbray had a good game (according to the English press),
    and was a key element in snuffing out Hateley..was this right ??.
    
    Now imagine in the next game, Mowbray was out injured, Hateley played a
    stormer, and scored 2 goals in a 3-1 win to Rangers...wouldnt you say
    (and perhaps want the media to point out) that Celtic were handicapped
    by the loss of Mowbray ???...I think you would.
    
    Yours in sport
    Paul

    Heard last night that the Celtic vs Rangers cup tie next tuesday is on
    SKY satellite. Can anyone confirm this and also tell me the
    kick-off time ?
    
    	- Robin

    
    Yes it's on BSB.7:30 kick off i think.

         8:00PM kick off.

         BSKYB K.O. 7:30PM.

        
 



 

    Thanks. I've located a receiver here (in Munich)...........
    
    	- Robin

    
    
      Ref 47.217
    
            ta...ta... your out the cup
    
                 1 nil to rangers 10 men.
    

    QUIETEST CONFERENCE ABOUT.
    

    
    
    
    
    
                               NO CELTS IN EUROPE AGAIN.
    
    
    
    

Bit premature, especially coming from a Jambo....

     
    Hearts may be a game in hand, but we,ve got the points and a far
    superior goal diff. Plus games against Dundee Utd on sat and against
    the hun on tues after losing a cup semi doesn't look hot on wins for
    the jams does it ?
    
    Colin.
    
    

     
    After the big huns win the league on saturday and at the same time
    the Jambo's are beating United.
    A week on tuesday the big huns will just give the wee huns the two 
    extra points we need for europe.
    
    
    

    
    1.  Dream on Neil, you've now absolutely no chance of going to
        Europe, unless you're planning a trip to Eurodisney with all that
        OT cash ?
    
    2.  Celtic today unveiled their ambitious new plans for a 100 million
        pound space age stadium in Cambuslang.
        It's to be built in two stages with two 16,000 seater stands being
        built first, followed by two smaller stands behind the goal both
        capable of holding 10,000 each.
    
        My first reactions to the announcement were a bit sceptical, but
        I've since had time to read & discuss the venture & have now came to
        the conclusion that perhaps it's feasible
    
        If this new super stadium does become reality, there is no doubt
        that it will be the best stadium in the UK, and probably Europe for
        that matter. However, we're gonna have to wait a while to see if it's
        all a pipe dream or reality.
        The first stage of the development is expected to be completed by 1994,
        with the second phase by mid 1995
        Where the money from this venture comes from is a little more
        complicated, with a series of debentures,grants & business inputs 
        supposedly raising most of the cash.
        The stadium plans also include a 200 room hotel, car parking for
        4,500, a petrol station, shops, cinemas, bowling alley, offices
        & confernence centre.
        There is a train station situated close to the site, with another
        one planned for.
        The site is being criticised by some people as not suitable due to
        contamination of the land itself, plus the amount of cash it will
        cost to supply electricity from the East end of Glasgow to the
        site.
    
        If they pull this one off, then I think the board wil have put one
        over on their media & newspaper critics (& I'm one of their biggest)
        for once & for all.
    
        Here's to 1994 !!
    
    

    
    	Sounds absolutely fantastic, jj. Truely a stadium befitting
    	one of Europe's great clubs. Why are clubs in the UK so
    	blinkered as to the impact of such a venture? Look at what
    	can be done (ie. Milan's San Siro etc.)
    
    	Liam Brady seems to have turned things around in '92 for Celtic,
    	and the future's looking quite rosy on the playing side. Now
    	it appears Celtic want to launch the club into the 21st century
    	about 6 years early. 
    
    	Look out, Rangers.....your rivals are stealing a march. Celtic
    	will soon, once again, be invincible north 'o' the border..
    
    	Andy.

    Re -1
    
    When is hampden getting sorted out ??
    
    Ive been in England for 12 years now, and it was at least 5 years
    before I left that they've been talking about it !!
    
    Is something actually going to happen ?? and when ??.
    Its about time, as a national stadium its a disgrace, and Im sure this
    is why attendances at Hampden have been so poor lately.
    
    Paul

    
    Paul,
    The plan is to have Hampden all seated & completely covered within the
    next two years.
    But.....it'll still look terrible from the outside & I assume the
    toilets & turnstyles etc...will still be a shambles.
    I'm afraid it's gonna end up like mutton dressed up as lamb !
    
    

    And it came to pass in Gullibleland that Capt. Hookassidy told the
    greatest seat-breakers in the land that he would build them "the best
    stadium in the world".And the dozy beggars did believe it.Meanwhile the
    bears did dance with laughter and amusement.Just another day in
    NeverNeverLand.
    
    
    
    

    
    Do not pass go, do not collect two hundred pounds, go back to Scumland &
    remain there.
    Will you still be laughing when the new stadium puts your huge toilet
    bowl in the shade ? Me finks not !
    
    

    
    
    
                        See 48.221
    
    
    
                        15th April 92.
    
    
    SQF Jambo.
    
    

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
    
     Is there any truth in the rumour,that Paul McStay is that disgusted
     in playing for Celtic,that he threw his jersey away after the defeat
     from Hibs.
    
     SQF Jambo

Saturday saw me at Parkhead for the 3rd time this season but this time
I was not there to see the Jam Tarts (I was therefore a neutral
observer). This did not stop me enjoying the afternoon with Hearts
claiming their place in Europe.

The way Celtic played they were lucky to finish 3rd rather than unlucky not 
to finish second in the league.

The afternoon saw Celtic complete their own trebble:
    o no Paul McStay.
    o no European football (unless you class a friendly 
      with Man Utd. as European football).
    o no new stadium.
    

   Hardly Neutral Ian!

   Anyway Hearts deserve their place if only for being the most improved
   side in the league. Mind you they'll probably go out in round 2 with 
   all the other Scottish sides.

   Dave (a Tim)

   According to today's Daily Express, Scotland will be allocated an 
   extra UEFA spot due to the restructuring of Europes borders and in 
   particular Germany.

   This would mean that Celtic would indeed be in Europe albeit by 
   a "dog's chance".

   The decision is to be ratified later this month.

   Tony.

   P.S. There are two slots up for grabs, I think Romania was the next 
        country in the table of merit.  
  

    I was thinking they would probably give up a few slots that used to
    belong to East Germany. What about some of the other "new" countries in
    Europe, like Isreal, Latvia, Croatia, Estonia, etc. Israel has a regular 
    league, but I dunno about the others
    
    Tom

    
    C'mon now lads.Lets not bicker.Celtic deserve to be GIVEN a place in
    Europe since they are not able to justify a place on their own merits.
    
    Because..aren't they the most CAVALIER footballing side that Scotland,nay,
    Europe,has ever produced? And didn't they once win the European Cup?
    And didn't they once beat RANGERS 7-1? And aren't they going to have
    a stadium fit to grace any European arena? And haven't they got the 
    GREATEST supporters the world has ever seen? And didn't Paul McStay
    ONCE play for them? And isn't Terry Cassidy the best PRO man RANGERS
    have ever had? 
    

       
    
    
    
    
                           WHAT DRUGS ARE YOU ON?
    
    
    
    

Re. .238

 Who's bickering?

 We'll be celebrating. ( Not much to celebrate as you so eloquently put it.)

 I'll be glad if it's true.

 At least I'll miss one episode of Coronation Street next year.
 
 Come to think of it, that's all you will miss as well going by 
 past form.

 Tony    
    
    
    

    
    re a few back.
    
    
    I'm beginning to wonder about you Iain, with all this talk about `back
    door entry'. 
    Surely you wouldn't grudge Celtic a European place,(if we get it) albeit 
    a kinda dodgy one ?
    After all, you lot did it for years & years with poxy Egg cup wins back
    in the early eighties when the Celts & the Dons were winning all the
    league & Scottish cup trophies.
    Or could it just be the fact that you would have to change your
    personal name again ? 8*))
    
    It was a good one granted.
    
    
    

    
    I read in the papers that Celtic were interested in buying Robert Fleck
    from Norwich (ex HUN)....
    
    Don't you think that it would be another bum signing ?...
    
    Ok...he has got better since leaving Ibrox (Who hasn't), but I don't
    think he is the man to solve Celtics problems....
    
    Anyone got anymore info on the possible signing of Fleck..?
    
    Arnie
    
    

    Can't wait till you hear him signing in the shower >*

    
    " Shoor it is old but it is..... 
       .........my father wore
    	       		.....oh hello missus Souness... "
    
    Robert Fleck... Rangers Xmas night out season 1986/87
    
BTW He wouldn't take the drop in wages !!!!
    

    
    Away from all this Hun crap, and back to some sensible discussion.
    
    Alex Cameron stated in todays Rangers News (For Rangers News read Daily
    Record), that Gordon Marshall had turned down Rangers to go to Celtic last
    year, and that this would come as a major shock to Celtic supporters 
    everywhere !
    
    Sorry Alex you Hun git....but we knew of this last September & it came 
    as no shock to us whatsoever that he would turn down the Scummites &
    choose Parkhead instead.
    
    
    
    Apart from the Scotsman & the Glasgow Herald, the story was also in the
    Celtic View at the time !
    
    

    
    And my tuppence worth............
    
    OUT:  Peter Grant (Anywhere) 200,000
          Tommy Coyne (Aston Villa) 700,000
          Chris Morris (Leeds Utd.) 250,000
          Dariusz Wdowczyk (Everton ) 300,000       
          Derek Whyte (Arsenal) 650,000
          Joe Miller (Anywhere) 400,00
    
                                --------
                                2,300,000
    
    IN:   Stuart Slater (West Ham) 1,500,000
          Tony Daley (Aston Villa) 2,000,000
          Stuart McKimmie (Aberdeen) 800,000
    
                                   ----------
                                   4,300,000
    
    Another 2 million in the red, but who cares. That's assuming the mugs
    in question take the mugs in question of our hands.
    And sell us the quality players in question.
    
      

    re .246
    How are you going to get 5.5m for MCnotStay ?  I thought he was out of
    contract so would go at a fee based on his salary.  Thats apart from
    the fact he ain't worth 5.5m.
    
    Is the Gallagher referred to the winger that used to be with Dundee Utd
    and is he realy available - he was good, but as an aerial attacher ?
    meethinks not.
    
    I guess the rumours are true there is a heatwave in Scotland

    Are they really looking to dump McStay? I haven't been able to follow the 
    'tic too much this year, but I always thosugh he was a class player. Did 
    he all of a sudden lose it overnight? 
    
    Re Gallacher...Is this Kevin Gallacher who played for Coventry City?
    
    Tom

    
    Tom. You are right about Mcstay. I find him quite an inspiration
    so I don't know why they are dumping him either.
    
    JN.

    
    Re. last couple
    
    Celtic aren't dumping McStay, it appears he is dumping them. The club
    are reputed to be offering him the highest salary ever paid to a
    Scottish player,haha, but it appears his ambition is greater than
    Celtic's.
    He is, without doubt, the most influential player currently at the club
    and it will be a sad day if he eventually decides to go.
    
    AB 

    Confirmed on the radio at lunchtime.


    Celtic are in the UEFA Cup next year. The decision was 
    taken at a meeting in London last night of UEFA.

    The Daily Record reporter Roger Baillie "exclusively" 
    reported it this morning ( days after the Daily Express ).

    

    
    How do you think Celtic will do in the UEFA Cup ?  Personally, I think
    they will be the surprise package of the tournament and do very well.
    
    Do you think the entrance of The Celtic to the UEFA Cup next year will 
    influence Mcstay in anyway to remain at Paradise.
    
    I personally hope that he stays at Parkhead as Celtic will struggle to 
    find a replacement with the money the board will be looking to spend.
    
    Do any of you know how money Brady will be allocated to spend next 
    year ?
    
    Arnie
    

    The best day of the season so far for the Lions of Lisbon.
    
    The Gallagher in question is Kevin Gallagher of Coventry City, ex
    Dundee Utd. A classy player who seems to have grown about 6 inches
    since leaving Clootie City about 2 years ago. He looked every inch a
    class striker and almost scored a spectacular goal for Scoltand against
    Romania. He has had some great strikes for Coventry and was tempted to
    leave for one of the larger English clubs but decided to stay and
    fulfill his contract. A wasted Scottish talent whose talents could be
    well utlised in Cambuslang.
    
    As for McStay, I'd rather have 3  million players on the park and sell
    him any day, esp in defence. Without a doubt the best player to grace
    Scotland since K. Dalgliesh, but money is money, put up for auction
    after an outstanding European Champioship you will see the highest
    price ever payed for a British player, better that Trevor Steven and
    David Pratt Superglued together. The fee will only have to be 3 X
    salary or something like that if only 1 club are interested, I do not
    think you will find this is the case with McStay.
    
    Here's to a successful year in Europe and I'm sure we will last twice
    as long again in Europe as the huns as we did last year, matybe even
    see the Hibees in San Siro.
    
    Nick.                                                               
    

	re .237

>    belong to East Germany. What about some of the other "new" countries in
>    Europe, like Isreal, Latvia, Croatia, Estonia, etc. Israel has a regular 
		  ^^^^^^

	Where?!!?

	And if you mean "Israel", that's in Asia.

	Being in the Eurovision Song Contest doesn't make you European.

	Tony

    
    	I agree with .254..
    
    	Celtic are far more likely to go further in the UEFA than Rangers
    	will in the European.
    
    	There, that should do it 8-)
    
    	Andy.

    
    
    Yah Celtic will be knocked out by a Bulgarian team in the 1st round and
    Rangers will lose to a Marseille or Bruges.  :-)
    
    Gary.

    Re. a few back.
    
    It looks as though McStay will leave Celtic this year.
    
    But I here Souness has a strong interest in bringing him to Liverpool.
    How true is this & if he has any choice, how likely is he to come to
    us?
    
    N.

    
    Re. 260
    
    >>If Mcstay is so damn good.Can you please tell me why he hasn't<<
    >>inspired his team to a major trophy in the last three years ? <<
    
    	There is one simple answer to that question and that is
      
        ""IT TAKES MORE THAN ONE MAN TO MAKE A TEAM PERFORM/WIN""
    
	Arnie
    
    

    RE McStay the 1 man team
    
    Surrounding a man of McStay's calibre with such choice talent as
    
    ..Derek Whyte, Peter Grant, Joe Miller, Cascarino, ... will undoubtebly
    have a balancing effect on the overall performance of the team.
    
    Only an overall improvement in the quality of the whole squad will see
    the glory days return, this can be achieved by selling McStay for 4.5
    million + and buying in mere 3 mortals @ approx 1.5 million.
    
    Celtic have easily the best midfield in Scotland ( or Britain according
    to L.B. )with McStay or with some half the quality of him. We probably
    have the 3rd poorest defence ( Getting better though, the Huns having
    by far the best ) and the 4th best front line  ( Huns having by far the
    best again ) .
         
    Nick.
    

    The logic in -1 is sound but wouldnt you be worried about what Brady
    would buy ??  He seems to have made one good purchase (Mowbray) so far,
    while Gillespie and Cascarino have been complete wasters.  
    
    He could always bring Big Roy back..........:-)  :-)
    
    Paul
    

    
    RE: Last few.
    >> A one man team doesn't work <<
    Well it seemed to work ok in 1977 when Dalglish led you to a double
    in what was just as ordinary a team as you have now.
    
    >>Celtic have EASILY the best midfield in Scotland/Britain.<<
    Are you on the same medication as Terry Cassidy?
    Celtic have no balance in the middle of the park.OK,they may have
    three good ball players,but they lack a Roy Aitken type player in this
    department.
    
    I really do hope you get your act together for the coming
    season,otherwise the league could be finished even earlier than it was
    this season.As i can't see the sheep or the jambo's showing enough
    consistency to keep up the challenge like they did in the past two.
                 

    

>    >> A one man team doesn't work <<
>    Well it seemed to work ok in 1977 when Dalglish led you to a double
>    in what was just as ordinary a team as you have now.
 
    Is that back in the days when the huns were collectively worth 2'6d ?
       
>    >>Celtic have EASILY the best midfield in Scotland/Britain.<<
>    Are you on the same medication as Terry Cassidy?
>    Celtic have no balance in the middle of the park.OK,they may have
>    three good ball players,but they lack a Roy Aitken type player in this
>    department.
 
    Why do you disagree with me then agree with me in the same sentence ? I
    said I was on the same medication as Liam Brady, what we do lack is a
    player with dig and experience, when McStay goes I suggested in .246
    buying Houghton as a replacement.   
    
>    I really do hope you get your act together for the coming
>    season,otherwise the league could be finished even earlier than it was
>    this season.As i can't see the sheep or the jambo's showing enough
>    consistency to keep up the challenge like they did in the past two.
                 
    
    We are three Million pound + players short of a quality team, when we
    have that together there's no reason why we cant start making our
    impressive run at the beginning of the season and not when the league
    is beyond our reach at the end, re; last 2 seasons

    
    RE:Last
    >	Is that back in the days when the huns were collectively worth 2/6?
    	
    	 They may not have been worth much,but they certainly knew how to
    	 win a TREBLE or two.Talking of trebles.It's now 25 years since the
    	 Yahoos won one.I just thought i'd mention this since yous seem to
    	 make such big issues of anniversaries.
    
    The point i was making about the midfield was that although you have
    three good individuals,you have no balance.So how can it be the best 
    midfield in the country?
    
    >	It's still not 9 in a row.
    
    	Maybe not.But can you honestly see anyone else winning 4 Premier
    	Leagues in a row?
    	9 in a row was a great achievement,but remember this was back in
    	the days when you only had to play each other twice,and the 
    	difference between 1st and 2nd was decided by who took the most
    	points from an Old Firm game.This isn't necessarilly the case
    	nowadays,as the top five or six teams are capable of beating
    	one another on a regular basis.
    

    
    I saw some newspaper reports today linking Celtic with Pat Nevin and
    Paul Mcstay with Monaco or Sampdoria.....any one heard anything ?
    
    Andrew.

    Somehow i dont think Sampdoria need Europe to get extra cash to pay
    for Paul McStay,if reports are correct they will get 16 Million from
    Juventus for Vialli.
                        If they go for McStay[highly unlikely] the interest
    on the 16 Million will pay for him.
    

    Paul McStay made it official that he is to leave Paradise,on the
    Scottish news tonight(29th).
    
    Heared the roumor the Teddy's or Monaco are to go for him.
    My money's on MUFC.   
    

    
    Achhhh..he was over-rated anyway  8*)
    
    

    
    
    
    Heard he was going to Barnet.
    

    
    
    
    Paul McStay is not a bad footballer,but he would not get a game 
    for the bears.Nigal Sackman is a bettar player and far more schoolful.
    He has never played well for Scotland, and this is what counts,just
    look at the new signing Dave McPherson, he stands out a mile and
    will probably be one of the best players in Sweden.
    
    				Rab.

    
    
    
    >>Nigal Sackman is a bettar player and far more schoolful.
     He has never played well for Scotland, and this is what counts<<
    
     I didn't realise Nigal Sackman had ever played for Scotland 8*)
    
     As for Dave McPherson standing out a mile...well, with a haircut like
     yours Rab, I suppose he would stand out a mile !
    
     SQFCSC
    
    
    

    EUROPE will be CFC free after the first round,this time  you can go out
    the back door just like you entered. 

    re-1
    
    well said ma auld champion !!
    
     SQF Jambo

    
    
      I really must apologise about what I said in my earlier note, some
    times I take a wee rush of blood to my thingy and things jist spurt
    out. Anyway, I take back all the nasty spitefull verbal thumpings I've
    said recently about CFC because let's be honest, there record stands
    for itself......and good luck to them.
    
                     Honest rab.
    
      P.S.  I know Nigel Sackman didn't play for scotland..the french git!!
     
                  
    

    
    Is Nigel Spackman not English???
    
    I think Dave McPherson is quite good looking.

    
    I read in last week's Celtic View that, the club are spending over 
    one million pounds on ground improvements.
    Apparently, with the work being done on the main stand to update the
    base from wood to concrete, toilets, turnstyles, food bars & updating
    the training facilities at Barrowfield, the figure could run in excess
    of that.
    It seems to me that the Cambuslang venture was all talk & that we'll be
    staying at a re-furbished Celtic park in the years to come.
    
    No club spends over a million in one close season & then moves off to
    another stadium two years later.
    
    Confused of SQF
    
     

    
    Celtic spend loadsamoney on players then of load them for less or 
    even give them away for nothing.
    So spending money on Parkhead then moving to a purpose built super
    stadium sounds about right to me.
    
    
    You no who
    @SQF
    
    

    
    John Colqhoun wasn't good enough....Roddie MacDonald was over the hill,
    Robbo flunked at Newcastle & Iain Baird wasn't good enough for the Leeds
    1st team.
    All this along with Mercer being a Rab Frew think/lookalike & a stadium
    that's only slightly crappier than ours....doesn't leave much room
    for you to talk does it Mr.Mike galloway lookalike 8*)
    
     
    

    
    
    
                          Good Johnny.
    
    
    
    Another SQF Jambo.
    
    

    
    
    
    MIKEY, MIKEY, MIKEY, PATERSON.
    
    
    

    
    
    Hi,
    
    I just wondered what the feelings are of other supporters, of the
    possibility of McStay going to Rangers for 2 million.
    
    Do you think he will play for Rangers ?
    
    How would you feel if he did go to play for the scum ?
    
    
    He wants to go to the continent, but there has not been any offers on
    the table from European Clubs.
    
    What do you think he will do ?
    
    Lets not forget, The Celtic offerd him 2 million as well.
    
    Arnie
    

        Any pre-season friendlies lined up..?

    
    Man Utd at Celtic park.....not sure of the date....
    
    Colin.
    
    

Middlesborough away in a testimonial on teh 26th July (?).

I believe the team is also going back to Eire for a week as 
well.

Manchester United is the week after Middlesboroug at Parkhead.

Regards,

    

    If anyone gets anything more on the Irish dates, please
    type 'em in.

    Dave
    

    THE MAN UTD GAME IS ON WED 29TH JULY AT PARADISE	
    
    			EDDIE LOVE

    Are the premier fixtures out? Where are Celtic on October 10th?
    
    Paul

    Paul,
    
    I have all the fixtures courtesy of the Star. Mail me your fax number and
    I'll copy them to you. On Oct 10 Celtic are at home to Hearts.

    McStay has signed a new contract , according to the BBC.
    
    Nigel

    yyyyyyyyyyyyyiiiiiiiiiiiiiipppppppppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    
    	p.s. I do NOT love RFC as the heading next to my name implies;
    	some scabby faced hun has somehow managed to have this attached
    	to my name.
    
    		Cheers		Eddie (Larkhall CSC)

    
    Remember that interfering with somebody else's account is a sackable
    offence.
    
    Eddie to change your personal name do a
    
    notes> set prof/pers="I love RFC and CFC"
    
    Gary.

         <<< Note 48.294 by GALVIA::SPAIN "There's always the U.S." >>>
                   -< not thew firt time this has happened >-
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 Tipperary Spring, Gary??


  Stuart
                      

    
    Stuart, you should know by now that I drink Ballygowan (Limerick water)
    rather than that horrible Tipperary stuff.  :-)
    
    Gary.

    
    John Jack
    
       remember where you heard it first...8*)
    
      job for life flung in, future manager etc. in the making
    
    Colin.
    
    

    
    Yo Timmites,
    		Don't get too excited.Just because he's signed another
    contract,it doesn't mean he's staying.
    		Personally,i think it's just a Yahoo ploy to get the full
    market value for him if and when another club shows an interest.I hope
    he does stay because it will mean no,(or at least very few),new signings
    for you guys in the immediate future unless you manage to shift some of
    the crap floating about the Piggery at the moment.(I hear Porterfield's
    on the lookout for some fresh talent ;>) ).But most importantly,
    he hasn't made much difference to you's in the past,so why should that
    suddenly change?
    
    Still,you've got to admire the guy's loyalty.
     

    
      The fan who has Paul McStay's shirt,can they return in NOW to
    parkhead they need it.

    
    	RE 1;  Tut Tut William,
    
    		your grammar leaves a lot to be desired.
    	Surely there is no need to ask you what school you went to !!
    
    		The Happy Tim

    The joke in the previous note was just as boring in the Funny People's
    notesfile.
    
    Before all the unwanted one's start to write in our beloved notesfile
    I would just like to say that Celtic have simply signed the best
    midfielder in Scotland (and among the top 5 in Britain). The fact that
    he IS Scottish makes him THE best signing that any Scottish club could
    have made with the rules about foreign players becoming even more
    stringent. After all, if that reasoning applies to an out-and-out
    puddin' like Big McHairson then surely it can be applied to the Maestro
    himself.
    I still think we need a defender and a forward though to really
    challenge next year. I'm a great admirer of both Gary Gillespie and
    Charlie Nicholas but they are not totally reliable from a fitness
    standpoint.
    
    		Eddie
    
    	p.s. Thanks Gary for relieving me of that horrific title, but I
    must admit I would have found it difficult to change it to "I love
    RFC and CFC".
    
    		
    

    
    To Paul McStay lovers everywhere,
    				    I only hope he is as influential and
    as successful as he has been in the last three years!!!!

    
    Liam Brady on his new signing :-
    
    		"He has great potential"
    
    	

    
    Point 1: Well done Mr.Doudie, you were indeed correct !
    
    Point 2: Iain, if McStay has no ambition...then surely the same applies
             to Sally McCoist ??
    
    Point 3: Keeping a talented footballer like Paul in Scotland can only
             be good for the Scottish game. Unlike the Govan John Merrick
             lookalikes who punted an excellent footballer in Trevor
             Steven for a greedy profit (a huge one granted !) 
    

    
    Should be quite a few Celtic fans travelling to Dublin this weekend.
    
    On Friday night Celtic play a League of Ireland select while on
    Saturday they meet Manchester City.  On Tuesday they travel to Cork
    before returning to Dublin to face UCD.  Apparently a few hundred fans
    will be over for the weekend with the hardcore remaining for the latter
    2 games.
    
    Gary.

    
    Celtic have been drawn away from home in the 1st round,1st leg of the
    92-93 UEFA cup, to face FC Cologne.
    I'm tempted to go to that one, as I don't fancy our chances too much of
    making the 2nd round 8*)
    
    The Irish tour got of to a winning start yesterday, with a 5-0 victory
    over an All Star Select.
    Galloway,Coyne,O'Neil,Nicholas & Morris the scorers.
    Celtic face another three matches in Ireland & then they're off to 
    Middlesbro' for Tony Mowbray's testimonial & back to Parkhead for a 
    friendly with ManUnited before getting down to serious league business 
    on August 1st.
    

    
    Celtic beat Manchester City 3-1 at Tolka Park, Dublin last night in
    their 2nd match of the Irish tour.
    Charlie, Coyne & Morris (Again !) were the scorers.
    Still to play...Cork on Tuesday & UCD on Thursday before heading home.
    
    

    
    Celtic won the 3rd game of their Irish tour last night beating Cork
    2-0 in front of 6,000 fans.
    Coyne & Boyd the scorers in a match that was played in a substitute
    stadium due to Cork's new one not being ready for use as planned.
    The Celtic team had to change in a Portacabin & get straight back onto
    the bus after the game to go back to the hotel for a shower. 
    I think if this had been any other side, they would have refused to
    play. But because of Celtic's relationship with Irish clubs, they went 
    ahead with the match although Brady was far from happy at the end of
    the game.
    Tommy Coyne kept up his goal a game record & with Creaney not managing
    a goal yet,Coyne (if not sold to someone else in the next fortnight)
    should have a good chance of being the main striker along with Charlie
    come the Hearts game on August 1st.
               
    Next match v University College Dublin tomorrow.
    
                     

    
    Re -1, John it's actually Cork's new stadium.  That was the opening
    game but judging by what I saw on TV last Saturday it's not ready yet.
    
    My paper says Celtic won comfortably.
    
    Gary.

    Gary,
    
    Is it a new stadium/ground or just a facelift for Turners cross (or the
    Lodge !!) ?
    
    	- Robin

    
    Robin,
    
    It's a new stadium.  City bought the Farm in Bishopstown from UCC. 
    There are plans for a 24,000 all seater ground.  The initial plan is
    5,000 seats for this season.
     
    Turners Cross is also getting a major facelift.  There are rumours of
    another Cork team in the L.O.I. for 93/4.
    
    Gary.
    
    PS sorry for ratholing the Celtic note.
    

    Re -1  
      Gary - you were correct to apologise, any talk of new stadiums in
    this conference is clearly a rathole !

    Re -1   Thanx for explaining
    
    	I thought Gary was implying Celtic's ground was a rat hole ;-)

    
    I saw in today's Glasgow Herald that Celtic fielded an Albanian
    defender who "...looked the part".  Does anyone have any more info on
    this guy and whether or not he will be signed on a permanent basis.
    
    Thanks.....Mark

    
    Celtic won the last match of their Irish tour last night defeating
    UCD 1-0 in Dublin. Mark McNally was the scorer just before half time in
    a match played in front of 3,000 fans.
    Rudi Vata, the 23 year-old Albanian trialist, had another good game in
    defence & Liam Brady will discuss whether or not he signs him with Tommy 
    Craig & Mick Martin.
    Tommy Coyne failed to keep up his goal-a-game record when he missed a
    1st half penalty.
    He shot wide after Fulton was pulled down in the box by a defender.
    Coyne has stated that if Celtic don't increase their pay offer, then
    he'll leave (If anyone will have him that is). 
    
    Match report from Mogga's testimonial at Middlesboro' on Monday night.
    

    
    John, according to reports this was Celtic's worst display of the tour. 
    UCD are a 1st division side here (we have a premier and first division)
    and are a team of students. The oldest player was 24.  Celtic didn't
    play well but to their credit played football.  Apparently Brady likes
    teams to play the way he did.
    
    >a match played in front of 3,000 fans.
    
    the crowd was limited as UCD have a small ground.  This is the capacity. 
    THe game was all ticket.
    
    Gary.

                      <<< Note 48.319 by PAKORA::JJACK >>>
                         -< Middlesbrough or bust !  >-


    Nice report but..

    
>    Their was some trouble during half-time at the match when Celtic
>    supporters in the stand were being taunted by Union Jack waving English
>    louts. The Police saw an incident in the making & quickly
>    moved in to move the Celtic fans into the enclosure behind the goal.
>    As they were moving, they were pelted by coins. They quickly turned &
>    made for the louts (who moved even quicker in the opposte direction).
>    The Celtic fans again turned & headed for the enclosure when the Boro
>    louts started charging again.
>    The Celtic fans this time turned and attacked & for about 20 seconds
>    there was a free for all on the touchline.
>    The Police moved in swiflty with dogs & the louts (& drunk so called
>    Celtic fans) were split up & several arrests made.
>    
>    This incident could have been a lot worse & I'm only glad it was only
>    a hundred or so invloved & that it was over so quickly.
    
     But I read ad nauseam ( during June ) that Scottish football "supporters"
     never get involved in trouble at games.    ( oblig smiley)

     Stuart

     ... and now to the fax machine to wind-up Ron Noades.
     

    Sorry Stuart,

    But when provoked, even the BEST supporters in the UK tend not to take
    it laying down !!

    JJ (One of the 10,000 Celtic fans that behaved impeccably)

    
    Friendly result from Parkhead:
    
    Celtic........1  Manchester United.....1
    
    Creaney          Dunno
    
    Kick-off apparently delayed 20 minutes to let the huge crowd in.
    Celtic FC once more to blame for thousands of fans missing the start of
    the game, due to them not properly manning the turnstyles (or opening
    them all for that matter).
    A friend who arrived at the gates at 7:30 didn't get in until 8:20 &
    missed both goals.
    When are they gonna realise that 40,000+ crowds arriving from 7pm
    onwards, require all the turnstyles to be functioning or a potentail
    riot could be on the cards !
    Next report from Tynecastle, Edinburgh, where I'm gonna be standing in
    the Gorgie end (with my mouth shut) due to not being able to get a ticket !
    
    There's a 1st time for everything I suppose 8*))
    
    
    

    John,It will be the 1st time youve kept your mouth shut
    
     SQF Jambo

     
    
    re. 322   
    
    It was Ince who scored for Man Utd after some sloppy defending by
    Celtic.If I get time I'll try and put in a report later,but after last
    nights show (I know it's only and friendly....) it's still pretty
    obvious that we require to make some purchases,....any comments?
    
    
    
    Andy
    
    

            <<< Note 48.322 by KIRKTN::JJACK "Rebel WITH a cause" >>>
              -< McStay was immense in the 2nd half apparently  >-

    
    Friendly result from Parkhead:
    
    Celtic........1  Manchester United.....1
    
    Creaney          Dunno
                     ^^^^^

    Any relation to Liverpool's "favourite son"?

    Stuo    
    
    
    

    
    
    JJ- RE.Turnstiles at Celtic Park.
    
    When I were a lad....
    
    I used to work on the Parkhead turnstiles for season in season 90/91
    when I was at Uni.  The organisation (and I use the word lightly) is a
    joke.  They have the same amount of operators every week, regardless of
    the opposition. That is, there will always be the same amount of
    turnstiles open whether it's a pissing wet wednesday night against
    Dukla Pumpherston Sawmill and Tannery or a scorching saturday afternoon
    against Hearts in the Scottish Cup.
    
    	There is one exception to this. There are always LESS turnstiles
    open for Old Firm games.  This is because it is reckoned that there
    should be two people per turnstile at the Rangers end for protection.
    Obviously, if there is a constant amount of operators, it means that
    Celtic turnstiles remain unopened.  
    
    	Things may have changed last season, I didn't go back after having
    to operate the Rangers turnstiles when we played them twice in
    succession. (Once in the Cup and once in the League). You may remember
    that Rangers had several players red-carded in the first game and this
    did not make for a convivial atmosphere the folowing week. After 90
    minutes of verbal assault, spitting, torn tickets, questioning of my
    mothers sexual preferences etc I decided that any more visits to Celtic
    Park would be as a spectator and not as an employee.  In their wisdom,
    Celtic decided that there was no need to put stewards in the Rangers
    end that week and so the Turnstile chaps were on their own.
    
    	Before I get shat on by some irate Rangers fans, I will say that
    most of their fans were actually quite pleasant, some even apologised
    for the behaviour of the others.  
    
    	Mark

    Re -1
    
    Come on Mark, everyone knows what pulling power the 'Pumphy' boys have,
    and that they travel in numbers
    
    :-)
    Paul

      
    
                Jambo's 0 - CELTIC 1

    
    Apart from having to stand in the shed at yesterdays match, I enjoyed
    the day oot.
    Lager a plenty, exotic dancers showing off their private parts, Warren
    (a Celtic man) wearing a Hearts scarf with the intention of throwing it
    away when in disgust when Celtic scored (and he did !),...Oh an a victory
    as well + my bet with SID from last season being wiped out by a doubles
    or quits bet !
    
    

    
    There was also a certain John Jack wearing a Hearts scarf.
    Did this slip your mind John.
    
    He also kept it i believe?
    
    
    I'm no racist b****** Paterson.
    
    
    
    
    
                                                            

    
    Mr.Mike Galloway lookalike
    
    I only wore the scarf to cover up my good looks, as the Jambos in the
    shed would have noticed I was a Tim otherwise 8*)))
    
    And Yes, I did keep the scarf........as I was changing the oil in my
    car at the weekend & needed a rag to wipe my dipstick (Ooh err) on.
    
    It also came in handy when I ran out of toilet paper !
    
    

   Result from last night.


       Aberdeen  1       Celtic 1

       Shearer 20        Creaney 16


   Creaney hit the bar twice with headers. 

       
    

    JJ..
    
    You forgot to mention the Guy with the Flute band gear on,who was about
    to get his face pummeled.....
    
    SQF Jambo

    
    Yes Sidley, I'm proud of you.
    
    

    
    Celtic........1  Motherwell........1
    
    Mowbray 49       Kirk 65
    
    In a nutshell, a crap game. All Celtic, & Motherwell score an
    undeserved equaliser against the run of play to steal a point.
    
    Can't be bothered writing a thorough report due to the game being
    garbage !!!
    
    
    

   Re. 1 - 1 draw.


   This is our fourth 1 - 1 draw so far this year. ( O.K two were in 
   friendlies).

   Not championship winning form..

   Our front players looked slow , Coyne livened things up a bit     
   but should be shot for his attempt when clean through ( similar to against 
   Aberdeen ),Charlie looked totally out of it, Miller sent in enough crosses 
   but to whom?
    
   Agree withthe comments regarding the Super League not changing anything.
   Motherwell played a good system to save the points but it was agonising 
   to watch. 

   How many do you think will be at Hampden on Wednesday for the Stirling 
   game or infact at any games with teams with a like mind to Motherwell
   i.e. up to seven across the back including a sweeper.

   Davy Cooper's cross for the Motherwell game was one of the few highlights.

    What are the Celtic's fans opinions on their team supposedly being the
    second biggest club in Scotland and as yet not having a shirt sponsor.
    
    
    
    ... Stevie
                                                                   

    
    I think it's great not to have anything spoiling the world famous hoops
    for the first time in years.
    
    

    
      Tony,
          The run of draw's your team is having will end to night.
    
    
                      Put the TALBOT down for a home win.

    In the Sam McCulloch testimonial to-night Auchinleck Talbot beat Celtic
    4-3. Celtic had two first team pool players in their squad. By all
    reports it was a great game and most certainly not a friendly.
    Well done Celtic for honouring a great Junior who is now retired, it
    seems there was a crowd of about four thousand.
    

    
    I heard on Radio Clyde that Celtic (Brady) are having talks with a
    striker from Middlesboro' today.
    
    Derek "TUBS" Johnston said that this player has only scored 3 goals
    since last November and that he played with Hull before Boro.  
    
    They are meant to be trying to swap him for one of Celtics "Month to
    Month contract players", but who they did not say.
    
    Anyone know who this striker is and what he is really like ? What
    player do you think will be leaving Parkhead if this deal goes through ?
    
    Arnie 
    
    

    
    It must be Andy Payton. Imho, a good player. Probably would cost around
    800K to 1M and probably worth it.
    
    Tim

    
    Skol Cup 1st round
    
    Stirling Albion......0  Celtic.......3
    
    At Hampden Park         Coyne 16
                            Creaney 82,88
    
    

    
    Celtic and Boro have came to an agreement on a swop between Chris
    Morris and Andy Paton. (Thank god Morris is going...!)
    
    Boro have also offered Celtic 1 million for Derek Whyte.
    
    These deals are meant to be processed on time for Saturday's games.
    
    Arnie
    

Herald this morning...

The swap of Andy Payton for Chris Morris has gone ahead as has the sale of
Derek Whyte for 1,000,000.  

Brady says that he wants to use the money very quickly.


Could be that we will see more new faces at Celtic before long.

Mark

    Bhoys,
    
    Celtic have been interested in this Payton fella for a few years now.
    
    I remember Scotsport reporting this a while back and showing the 
    odd Hull game.  Payton was the Charlie (aged 22) lookalike, a la' perm 
    etc........ I do remember him scoring a goal or two, but nothing to 
    suggest he's a world beater !
    
    I was at the Mowbray Testimonial and I can't remember if he played, so he
    must've made a big impression !!!
    
    Not too sure about this new found alliance with Boro'.........they were
    a half decent side that day, but it seemed when Celtic stepped up a
    gear, they began to struggle.........I didn't see anyone on show who 
    I would've paid a huge amount of cash for, the best of their bunch 
    was the big chappie who used to play for Aberdeen, he looked OK and again 
    he is a Scot, as per the UEFA rules.    
    
    Looks as though TC will be on his way, what with him playing for the
    Republic and the arrival of Payton.     If this is the case Mr.
    Brady must ensure Coyne's replacement can grab 20+ per season, if he's
    not sure, then keep him !
    
    Cheers,
    
    Steph.
    
                                              

re last


   Will he be signing Bishop as well? 

   Stuart

    
    They did not mention anyone else apart from Slater...
    
    Who is Bishop ?
    
    Arnie

     How much did it cost to get in to the Stirling game on Wednesday
    night??.At a guess I would say the same as Rangers were being charged.
    It was costing us 9 and 10 quid and I'm glad to see both sets of fans
    protesting with there feet.I wonder when the last time was that the old
    firm played at hampden on consecutive nights and pulled in less than
    20,000. This is just another example of The old firm fans being
    exploited for as much as small clubs can get out of them.
    
     SQF Blue nose.

     Wonderful decision by the Police to segregate the fans by giving the 
     Stirling fan(s) the traditional covered Rangers end.

     That should really encourage people to return to Hampden as the 
     conditions were monsoonal as opposed to tropical.

   

    
    Celtic.....2  Dundee United.....0
    
    Creaney 5,12
    
    Attendance 30,520
    
    
    
    

    JJ,
    
    For us exiled Tims can you add a few lines on the match, as I'm sure
    a two-zero against Utd, even though they're like a night in with the
    toothache, was a bit more exciting than that.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Steph.

    
    Creaney scored both goals with headers. Payton collected the ball
    about 30 yards out, passed to Miller on the right, he carried the ball
    towards the box and fired in a cross which Creaney charged through
    Utd's defence and slotted it home from about six yards. The second
    was a high cross from the left to the back post and a looping header to
    the near post with the Utd keeper (Main ?) rooted to the spot. Payton
    played well nearly scoring in ten seconds. A lobbed pass over the
    defence from kick off. He ran in with Main ? advancing, he managed to
    touch it past him, but it was a bit off target and woudn't have
    reached the line anyway. He had a good shot also, from 25 yards that
    went inches over. All in all a good solid game from Celtic which seen
    them to the top of the league, still unbeaten and the Hun, Aberdeen and
    of course Utd getting beat, the 3 teams that were above them on
    saturday morning 8*). I'm sure JJ can elaborate a bit more on this.8*).
    
    Colin.
    
     

    Celtic........1 	Dundee........0
    Payton 8'

    
    re.-1  I must agree about the crowds at Parkhead this season......how
           do Celtic continue to get away with giving low official
           attendances ? It surely must now be law to have some kind of
           computerised gate control in the wake of the Taylor report.
    		On the playing front,it's begining to look good,but I'm
           a bit worried about out defence for Saturdays game with the 
           absence of Gillespie.I think we'll score goals,but I must admit
           we'll probably lose some (not too many I hope !).
    
    
    	   Andy.
                                                            

    JJ,
    
    You mentioned Grant in your match report...........any good reason for
    him being in from the cold ?
    
    Slater came off the bench.........do you think he'll start on Sat ?
    
    And what about Charlie......was he in the frame ?
    
    Cheers,
    
    Steph.

    
    Steph,
    
    Grant was in because Gillespie, Wdowczyk & Galloway were all injured.
    Our back four had a very peculiar look to it in the 2nd half last
    night, with Brian O'Neil & John Collins as full backs, and our usual
    full backs in Boyd & McNally playing centre-half & sweeper
    respectfully.
    
    I think if Galloway is fit, then he'll play from the start on Saturday
    with Slater on the bench. If he isn't fit then I fear Grant will hold
    down a place as Brady will go for the experienced guys for this one.
    
    Charlie was dropped again last night (as was Coyne) & wasn't even on
    the bench.
    
    Last nights team:                  Marshall 
                            O'Neil  McNally  Mowbray  Boyd       
                                Grant  McStay  Collins
                               Creaney  Payton  Miller
    
                Subs:  Slater for Mowbray (45)
                       Fulton for Creaney (70)
    
      
                                                                

    
     Any comments on the new `away' strip. I'm not a Celtic fan but thought
    it wasn't bad at all. What do the real Celts' think about it?
    
       Jonno
    

    What does it look like? I hope it looks better than that ugly shirt
    they wore with the spots of olive green, brown and anti-freeze
    green... 
    
    Tom

    Rumor has it (Herald newspaper today 21st)that the main obstacle to Celtic's
    Cambuslang venture has been lifted.It appears a Manchester Holding
    company had first refusal to the land 3 years previous but a agreement 
    has been struck which enables Celtic to buy the land for 2mill.
    Meaning the First Phase will be completed by the deadline of the
    Taylor Report(1994),Comprising of a 32,000 capacity stadia costing 26mill.
                                                    

    
    RE.-2
    
    The new away strip is a black number with jade green & white pinstripe 
    through it.
    It's OK I suppose (Looks a bit Inter Milanish), & is a definate
    improvement on the last effort.
    
    Celtic are away to Rangers in the 1st Old Firm match of the season
    today.
    They'll have to do without the services of Wdowczyk & Gillespie, with a
    question mark still hanging over Mike Galloway's fitness.
    Peter Grant (Arrrgghhh) is in line for a game. Tony Mowbray is a
    definate starter even though he had to have a dozen or so stitches
    inserted into a head wound, after last weeks Skol cup tie with Dundee.
    Andy Payton & Gerry Creaney should be the main strikers with a possible
    place on the bench for Charlie or Tommy Coyne.
    New signing Stuart Slater will probably be on tye bench again.
    
    The biggest shock could be the return of Pat Bonner in the Celtic goal,
    as Gordon Marshall has a neck injury & faces a fitness test this
    morning to see if he's capable of playing.
    This could be big Packie's chance to either put himself in the shop
    window, or to try & gain his regular 1st team place back. 
      
                                                                  

    Scottish Premier League
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Rangers......1  Celtic......1
    
    Durrant         Creaney
    
    
    I'll let someone who was at the game write a report (as long as it
    ain't a hun !)
    
    
    

    Did Bonner play? Did Slater get a run?
    
    Paul

  Re. last


   >>> Did Bonner play? Did Slater get a run?
    
   Celtic team was       Marshall

              McNally   Mowbray  Galloway    Boyd

              Grant     McStay   Collins     Miller

                        Payton   Creaney

              Sub : Slater
                    O'Neill


   All in all a fair rsult at the end of the day. Rangers certainly had the 
   better of the chances but Celtic played the most of any football that was 
   on show until Durrant came on. Then it went Rangers way for the 15 minutes 
   or so after the Durrant goal with Celtic coming back towards the end of the
   match. 

   Too many highlights to comment on but I thought the best for Celtic were 
   Collins( esp. in defence) , Mowbray , Galloway and Creaney whilst Brown,
   Huistra and Durrant when he came on were tops for Rangers.

   BTW from where I was it looked as if Steven was onside but that's the way 
   it goes. The linesman had his flag up before Steven hit the ball into the 
   net.

      Hearts    1      Celtic    2

      Mackay 43         Payton 36
                        Shuggie 53


      Rumour has it that it is Celtic v Aberdeen in the semi?

 

    
    
    RUMOUR IS CORRECT....CELTIC HAVE GOT ABERDEEN IN THE SEMI's.....
    
    IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE FINAL....
    

    
    
    
    Celtic stuttered to yet another 1-1 draw today, and yet another dropped 
    point against what can only be classed as weaker opposition.
    We've now managed to draw four times in the space of a month against
    Aberdeen, Motherwell, Rangers & now Airdrie.
    When you consider that we were leading in all four matches, Brady must be
    wondering if we have the ability to mount a serious challenge to
    Rangers this season, when we cannot even hold onto a lead (or improve
    on it for that matter).
    We may well look back next May & see ourselves 3 or 4 points off the
    lead & wonder what may have happened if we had won these specific
    games.
    One bonus from todays match was the fact that Andy Payton scored his
    third goal for the club in four matches.
    He really looks the part & I'm sure when Stuart Slater is match fit &
    playing in a midfield alongside Collins, McStay, & Galloway/O'Neil,
    things may improve even more.
    
    St.Johnstone on Wednesday night in the league at Parkhead.
    
    

    
    
    
    
    
    
    Another point dropped on Saturday,due to the fact that the urgency in
    Celtics' game disappeared after Payton had scored a fine goal.Airdrie
    played with a lot of men behind the ball,but McStay and Collins had
    very little to offer in trying to break down their defence.
	I think that Collins wasn't as effective as he has been in recent
    games due to the fact that Boyd was over in the right back berth and
    Collins didn't get his usual service.
    	I still not sure that McStay is the man to captain the Celts,as
    after Airdrie had equalised,he didn't seem to generate any
    urgency/enthusiasm in the team,even when players were injured he just
    strolled about the middle of the park instead of motivating his
    team.....hand it over to big Mobray and take some pressure off McStay.
    	St. Johnstone on Wednesday......only 2 points will do.
    
    
    
    
    Andy.
    
    
    
    
    
    Andy.

    I agree that Paul McStay is not a shouter on the park but I do think
    that the responsibility of being captain has made him a better player
    (if that were possible).As for Mobray being made captain I don't think
    that it would make him shout more as that definatly is not possible. 
                                                     

    
    
    
    
    Scottish Premier League
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Celtic.......3  St.Johnstone.......1
    
    Collins 20,77   Wright 55
    Creaney 82
    
    For a long time in this match, the Bhoys seemed destined for yet another
    1-1 draw against lesser opposition.
    That is until the 77th minute, when John Collins got his second of the
    night. A blistering drive from 22 yards beating Andy Rhodes low at
    his left hand post.
    This capped a fine performance by the young Celt & must be a real
    sickener to Andy `Ibrox' Roxburgh, as he AGAIN left the gifted midfielder 
    out of his International plans.
    For me, Collins was man of the match (although Tom Boyd ran him a very
    close second, more on him later). 
    Things had started so well for the Celts with three fine attempts at
    goal in the first 10 minutes.
    The referee tuned down a stonewall penalty in the 12th minute when
    Inglis brought down Creaney. The fans howled in anger, but worse was
    still to come when Slater beat two men & was just about to beat a third
    just inside the box, only to be chopped down.
    Again, unbelievably, the ref waved play on !!!. This was by far the
    worst standard of refereeing I'd saw all season.
    However, the goal Celtic deserved was merely delayed a few minutes.
    A sudden burst of speed by Boyd on the right flank, an excellent cross
    from the Scotland defender, and there was JC to head past Rhodes from
    six yards.
    Things died down a little after that, not a lot more action although
    Payton (having a quiteish game) did come close a couple of times.
    
    Half-Time 1-0
    
    St.Johnstone looked a lot sharper in the second half & after a couple
    of near things they duly equalised, courtesy of this new back-pass
    rule.
    Galloway tried (from 4 yards) to guide the ball back to Marshall with
    his head, he was short, and in popped Paul Wright to make Celts
    suffer for their indecision (Mikey should have blasted it over the
    Terracing !).
    Suddenly things didn't look too rosy. However, JC put paid to my
    concerns with that glorious second goal & then to round things off
    came the third.
    Payton was released by a superb McStay pass, his shot was blocked by
    the advancing keeper high into the air. Two defenders tried to clear,
    but Creaney (having a poor match by his standards) beat them both to it
    to force the ball over the line with his head.
    I don't know if Creaney running to the Jungle (Who'd tore him to
    ribbons most of the night)after he scored, was joy or mere sarcasm.
    I stated earlier that Tom Boyd had a great match. This was underlined
    by his amazing pace & stamina to power up & down the right side of the
    field firing in excellent crosses.
    The lad has been Brady's best signing to date !!
    
    
    Last nights team:     Marshall,Boyd,Wdowczyk,Galloway,Mowbray,McStay,
                          O'Neil,Slater,Collins,Creaney & Payton
                          Subs: Fulton (Creaney) & McNally (Wdowczyk)
    
    Next report v Hibs ( a week on Saturday)
    
    
    
    
    
    

    I think that Collins is not in the Scotland squad because he previously
    refused to play the role that Roxborough wanted him to.
    
    ... Stevie

    Stevie
    
    Another perception of the Scottish media.
    
    At no time did JC ever say he didn't want to play for Scotland, because
    of the position Roxburgh asked him to play.
    JC wishes it to be known that he would play any position for his
    country (Unlike Bett & Judas).
    He merely informed Walter Smith.....eh I mean Roxburgh, that he
    `preferred to play through the middle'.
    Roxburgh then decided not to pick him for a certain match & it has
    escalated since then !
         
                                                   
                                           

     I nearly took the bait there...About Joan Collins being a better player
    than Durrant.....well it made me laugh.
     Your right about Creaney,he should be in for McClair.I don't know how
    you can say that Roxburgh doesn't like to pick Celtic players when he 
    stood by McStay when he done nothing for Scotland(I'm talking about 
    2,3 years ago).He had been a promising young player for about 5 years.

    SQF Blue nose

     

     Ok I'll take the bait @:^))

     Durrant was and is a great player,He's had a least 3 great matches
    which has earned a TRIP with the Scotland squad.
     
     Was Joan playing against us at Ibrox?,if so he had a very poor game
    (he must have if I can't even remember him)And if Paul Potential is so 
     good,how come no one wanted to buy him????.
    
     SQF Blue nose

                                               
     And if Paul Potential is so good,how come no one wanted to buy him????.
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
     Eh.......Didn't you lot want to buy him ??????????? 8*)))))))))))))))
    
    Along with Seville,Nice,Everton..........
    
    

    Us Na! That was a nasty rumor @:^))  How many of the others actual
    offered money for him??.

    SQF Blue nose               

    Gents,
    
          Why all the furore about Rangers players in the Scotland pool?
    
          Currently, of the six Rangers players included in the Scotland
    pool, 4 of these players gained international recognition BEFORE going
    to Ibrox, namely:
    
                         Goram -------   Hibs
                        McCall -------  Everton
                         Gough ------- Dundee Utd./Spurs
                       McPherson -----   Jambos
    
          That only leaves 2 Who were playing for Rangers when they got
    their first cap. Namely Durrant & McCoist. McCoist only being the top
    scorer in the premier league & Durrant, potentially one of the best
    midfielders Scotland has produced in recent times. Are Rangers to be
    lambasted because they keep Scottish international players in Scotland?
    
          Why is so hard for you to accept that Rangers have a few Scottish
    internationals in their side. I for one watched Gordon Marshall at
    Brockville for years and he doesn't look any better a keeper now than
    he was then. 
    
          Should we not be more concerned about how the team does and not
    whether Rangers or Celtic have more players in it or it just an excuse
    to have a go at each other again without really caring how Scotland do!
    
          Pretty petty bull****
    
    
              Jonno
    
    
    
            

    
    Wind em up & real em in !!
    
    

    re.388
    
          It's a poor excuse to use. It seems to me you accuse everything
    of being a wind up only when you appear to be struggling for answers.
    
         Jonno
                                

    
    No.....I've decied that my last entry was a candidate for a SET HIDDEN,
    so I've deleted it myself (Shame you'll never know what it said huh ?)
    
    Down to business:
    
    Alex Cameron (yes, Alex RFC Cameron) actually wrote something
    pro-Celtic in today's Record regarding John Collins.
    He agrees with my thinking that JC should have been in the squad for
    Scotland's match on recent performances.
                                                                          
    Wonders will never cease. Perhaps Gerry McNee's pro-Celtic streak will
    continue on tonight's Scotsport extra-time, or will it ????  
    
    

    
    John "the crab" Collins.........could'nt lace wee Kevin McAllister's
    boots.......-)
    
    Mind you, if he played for the cavalier Celts, like Marshall, he too
    would be in the pool.
    
    Incidentally....why were there no complaints on the radio Clyde 
    moan-in,  not to mention the Dixon Blackstock's prattle column
    etc when the Scots team was full of players from Celtic......
    could it be that paranoia has raised it's ugly head once AGAIN.
    
    Next thing you'll be saying is Mikey Galloway should be in the pool
    -).......in fact in last week's Blackstock column some ill-informed
    parkhead fan suggested that even Stewart Slater warranted a place
    in Roxburgh's pool.......he's not even Scottish and he has'nt even
    played in the premier (for CELTIC) long enough to have an Eartha
    Kitt.         
    
    -) -)
    
    Jonno.

    What's an "eartha kitt"?
    
    Paul

    A set of gardening tools ??

    
    Rhyming slang for a `Hairy fit' ????
    
    

Eartha Kitt is the 'wife' in that fictitious family of people whose
other members include :-

	George III

and	Greyfriar's Bobby




Malcolm

    Eartha Kitt was a Singer ...
    
    
    
    Boris 'De' Ness

    

    Re. last..
    
    A singer????
    
    A matter of opinion I would say
    
    (-:
    
    Nige.

    > Eartha Kitt was a Singer...
    
    And who could ever forget "I Love Men"? 
    
    barry.

   Eh..excuse me, is this the FOOTBALL note or the UK_MUSIC one ?????

    Celtic's recent Albanian acquisition, Rudi Vata , has a new nickname
    given to him by his team-mates
    
    It's Holy !!
    
    

    
    Very funny, JJ.
    
    The bad news is that Rudi Vata roughly translated is...
    
    
    
    
    Cascarino!!   8-))
    
    Your Boss
    Archie

    Saturday 12th of Sep.---------The day of devastation.....The only word 
    
    i can use to describe todays result-Disgusting.
    
           My first letter in any conference,and it had to start with this
    
         C**P.Lets hope not to repeat it much this season.
    
             Anyway all the best to the bhoys on Tuesday.-see you's there.
    
    NCB-GARY
    
      NCB

    
    Re:.399
    
    		JJ,
    		  Does this mean that after yet another trophy-less season
    		you'll all be singing.......
    
    		
    
    ......Nae holy Vata in the cups.
    					

   JJ, Cologne are going through a "real" bad patch at the moment, they are
bottom in the league after 5 games, and I think they are out of the cup as well.
There keeper Bodo Ilgner has lost his N0 1 spot in the German national team 
after 4 years there and the chap is only about 25. Cologne are having major
problems finding the net, and Celtic should get to the next round.. 

                                                         all the best.....

                                                             -dave-

    ENJFERJHFGG;JFL

    
    	It works! 8-)
    
    	whgtyalkspouci (just testing my Swahili!! ;-) )

    
    
    JJ,
       I must disagree with your choice of left back (ie. Wdowczyk),due to
    his lack of pace and inability to support the midfield and attack.
    Granted he is a good distributer of the ball and has a fair shot....but
    that's it !When Collins and McStay are looking for support down the
    left flank....he is always 5 mins late at reading the game and the
    chance is lost,whereas Boyd is always there to support that side of
    the park,and that is where Celtic were ceating a lot of chances earlier
    on in the season.This is no longer happening!!!!...why does Brady not
    see this ?
       Boyd looks awkward at times at right back and tends to punt long and
    hopeful balls up the right wing,which rarely find a man.He doesn't have
    the same understanding as he has with Collins and is wasted in this
    position.
       Remedy.....buy a good right back (McNally will do meantime),put Boyd
    to left back,use Shuggy as sweeper or in the reserves.
    
    
    Andy.
                                           

    
    The Cologne-Celtic game is live on sattelite tonight on 
    one of the German channels (19)..Cant remember its name ..
    I think the Kick Off is at 17:00 GMT .
    
    	prediction    1-0 to Celtic
    
    

    
          RE : Cologne's bad patch
    
                Cologne are up 1-0 

    
    Result:
    
    FC Cologne.......2  Glasgow Celtic......0
    
    Jensen 23
    ?????? 83
    
    Once more we bow out of Europe at the 1st hurdle 8*(
    
    

    
    I am very surprised at this attitude. A few years back, even if beaten
    by a larger margin, the attitude would have been 'No surrender' ;-))
    
    I predict Celtic to go through after extra time at Parkhead.
    
    

    I managed to watch most of the game from Cologne on satellite telly
    before work work tonight and Brady must be livid at the way his defence
    gave away 2 goals. Apart from these two unbelievable lapses, the game was
    a bit of a non event with Celtic playing not too badly.
    The most amazing sight however, was the huge number of Celtic
    supporters who had made the trip. Surely we are the only club in the    
    world who could take 5000 fans 2000 miles just to see our team getting
    humped.
    
    Martin SQFCSC........

    
      RE : THE BEST FANS IN THE WORLD
    
           Any Scottish team playing in Germany will get a good support,
           due to the fact most of them will be solders stationed their.

    RE: .413
    
    Billy,
    
    I could be wrong but I wouldn't expect many (Scottish) soldiers
    stationed in Germany or anywhere else to be Celtic supporters.
    
    What do you think?
    
    Paul

      Saw the game live here on German tv, and I thought Cologne were bad but
Celtic were pathetic.. They had so much space most of the time but were content
in holding the ball and passing around midfield. Its true what the German
commentator said, "Celtic were the worst team to visit the Munsdorfer stadium in
a number of years". Remember lads Cologne are playing crap football at the
moment and will continue to do so for a while, but what concerns me more is
where are Celtic going to????? Iam not sure what's going through Liam Bradys
head as a manager, but as a player he was always an attacking one.... 

    Don't tell me it was tactics, the game was a home one for Celtic, the only
time we heard the Cologne fans was during the last 7 mins after they went 2-0
up. One thing for sure the Celtic fans are very loyal, how they can shout and
sing on their team for a solid 85 mins when their playing such crappy football
is beyond me. 

  I really hope Celtic get through to the next round, but after last nights
game Iam not sure they deserve to....

                                                   a saddened Celtic fan....

                                                            -dave-

    Dissappointed yes but we should still have a good chance of qualifying.
    
    Brady's tactics last night were obviously containment by leaving only
    Creaney in attack. Celtic never play those tactics and it seemed ( from
    the radio commentary ) that they kept losing possession in midfield as
    there was no target man to hit once we had the ball.
    
    1:0 would have been an acceptable result, as Brady said himself he
    would have been "very confident" with that scoreline, now he is just
    "confident".
    
    Marshall seemed to have a reasonable game, from the reports the defence
    were stationary when the first goal was scored, Marshall then appeared
    to come for all the corners after that, not relying on his defence. Koln
    only seemed dangerous from the set piece and the same old story, quick
    break, two unlucky deflections and theres the opposition player to put
    the ball in, heard it all before, Hibs on Sat.... 
    
    I'll have to wait until the Firmware Tim gets off the Koln bus
    tommorrow to get the report from the horses ass.
    
    As long as we dont have a repeat performance of last year Xamax game
    when if we had taken half the chances we had we would have humped them
    10:0, we can be thankful we're not relying on Cascarino this year
    though.                                          

    
     RE : 48.415
    
          Paul
             It's not a subject that Iwould go to far in to ,but I no lot's
             of soldiers [reg] and [T.A.] and it would surprise you how
             many are Celtic supporters + thay have served all over the
             world.
             I think I know what you are trying to say in your note but its
             something you should kept to your self.
    
                                        Billy

             According to official records ie passport numbers and lists of
    supporters clubs travelling, given to Celtic (as required by law) over
    4500 supporters made the trip to Cologne from Britain.
    I totally agree with you that a large number of soldiers would have
    been present at the game so perhaps my initial estimate of 5000 was a
    bit on the low side.
                         Martin SQFCSC..........
                         

    I wonder how many Scottish flags there were in the Celtic crowd on
    Tuesday night?...not many I bet...must have been quite confusing to the
    Germans which country Celtic were supposed to be representing.
    
    Craig.
    
     

    
    Craig,
    I thought this note was set  up to discuss football and pass comment on
    issues as we see them, not to throw in meaningless insinuations.
    If you have a point to make please make it.
                                    Martin SQFCSC.........
    
                                                          

    Could not agree more Martin. You never hear us shouting the odds as to
    whos flags who when Dunfermline play in Europe.
    
    Eric The Par.

    Just a wee note to add my personal bit in about the (MARVELOUS)Celtic
    fans in Cologne.
       There was about 5-6 thousand fans there watching Celtic play-this
    includes around 500 German and Dutch fans and around 300 ST.PAOLO
    fans(Colognes rivals).
       Any other British fan who might have been there and lives in
    Germany were certainly not there supporting Celtic as they were all
    above us in the stadium with the scarfs and flags you would associate
    with Ibrox or England or NI.
       But apart from that it was a very poor match with Celtic got a lot
    to do in the return leg.
       
    
         GARY
    

    Question re: Falkirk game:
    
    I know Celtic won 5-4 at the weekend and that Packie Bonner was back in
    goal. Was he to blame for any of the goals? How did he play generally?
    
    Jimmy

    Jimmy


    Depends on who you talk to.

    I'd say that he was to blame for the first goal by having a poor
    slap at a cross ball which led to the Falkirk player lobbing the ball
    towards the net.

    In general the team were poor until the last 10-15 minutes when Falkirk
    through the game away (in my opinion).

    At the moment I believe the team are not playing because McStay has not
    been his usual self although Collins has been excellent.

    Tony.

    
    Nae luck Ha! Ha!
    

    
    
            ta ta tic

    going for 4 in a row
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    WITHOUT A TROPHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

    em - any chance of a match report ?
    

       Saturday's result.

        Celtic  1     Partick Thistle Nil 2    

        Payton        Shaw twice.

   Match highlights: ....











 regards.

    Well it looks like Brady's job is secure for another month now...

    -.1  Was there talk of him getting the boot ?

    
    Did Marshall play a significant role in the victory

    
    McStay scored the first and Creaney deflected a John Collins
    shot for the second,Collins finished the scoring with a goal
    10 minutes from the end.
    
    Brady said in yesterdays DOB paper that even though Marshall
    was in goal last night Bonner would be playing on Saturday.
    
    
                                        John.
    

    Bhoys,
    
    Can someone post a match report from last night......thanks in advance,
    
    Steph.

    Steph,
    
 I expected Celtic Park to look rather empty, after UEFA's restrictions on 
 terraces for European matches. But to my astonishment, the place looked jam
 packed.
 Either the 30,000 fans kept moving from side to side to give this impression,
 or Celtic & Mr.Cassidy are up there old tax dodging tricks again !

 The first 20 minutes were nothing to write home about, but after a fierce John
 Collins drive was parried away by Bodo Illgner, suddenly the match burst into 
 life.
 Cologne had looked the better side in earlier exchanges, but this great effort
 from Collins seemed to give the players & fans the lift they needed.
 The goal we all hoped (& prayed for) wasn't long in coming. 
 A Boyd cross was headed out just passed the 18 yard line, Peter Grant played
 it straight back to Boyd. He crossed towards Mowbray on the penalty spot, and
 the big Englishman nodded the ball down towards McStay 16 yards from goal.
 The Maestro fired home an unstoppable low volley with his left foot to drive 
 the home fans delerious.
 This was in the 36th minute, and we didn't have long to wait before we were
 rejoicing again.
 This time a great through ball towards the goal line from Galloway was kept in
 touch by Andy Payton. He prevented the goal kick by pushing the ball out 
 towards the shy-line. Boyd kept it in play, crossed to the chest of Slater, who
 in turn laid the ball on to the advancing Collins. From the corner of the 18 
 yard box, JC shot for goal. Creaney darted forward, and with the help of his 
 knee, deflected the ball high into the net passed the keeper.

 Half-time 2-0

 The second half wasn't nearly as exciting as the first, but when the 3rd went 
 in, Paradise erupted.
 We had to wait until the 79th minute for the winner granted, but it was well 
 worth it.
 Boyd took a quick throw with the German defence in disaray. Collins controlled
 it in the box, advanced towards the defender, waited on him committing himself
 before side stepping him and prodding the ball passed the advancing keeper.
 The only other real efforts on goal in the second half, were a Boyd shot after
 a good run from the full back, & a cross which went right across Illgner's goal
 & missed by Creaney, McStay & Slater. Both these efforts came prior to the 
 winner.
 In between all this the Germans had 5 corners in the space of 10 minutes &
 looked dangerous. The defence (And Marshall's handling) however, were immense.

 The final whistle couldn't come soon enough, as the German's pushed forward
 trying to get that elusive away goal.
 They nearly scored when the number three pushed the ball over the line 
 following a goal line strumash, only for the referee to blow for a foul on
 Marshall.

 We're in round 2 & the Bhoys can be proud of the way they overcame the 1st leg
 defecit.
 Hopefully this result should give us the lift we need for the up & coming
 league matches away to Dundee & at home to Hearts, in the next 7 days.

 Last nights team:    Marshall  McNally  Boyd  Galloway  Mowbray  Grant  Slater
                      McStay  Collins  Creaney  Payton.
                      Subs: Gillespie  Fulton (for Payton)  O'Neil  McLean  & 
                            Miller (for Slater)


                      

    
>>> or Celtic & Mr.Cassidy are up there old tax dodging tricks again !
    
    	I resemble that remark!!!!
    
    

    Dezzz,
    
    Not wanting to be pedantic...
    
    But do you mean RESENT or RESEMBLE... Has your direct line been
    installed into the Augustiner tent yet??? 8-)
    
    Keith.

    
    Anybody heard the draw yet ????
    
    

    
    
    CELTIC HAVE GOT BORUSSIA DORTMAND (sp) IN THE NEXT ROUND.
    
    FIRST LEG IS AT PARKHEAD.
    
    ARNIE
    

    JJ or anyone,
    
    Any update on Charlie.......I heard he's been unfit, when's a likely
    return ? As I'm told we're badly needing someone to "hawd the ba' up".
    
    Cheers,
    
    

    A poor run of form early season combined with the signing of Payton had
    rooled oot Cherlie up until now. He was set for a comeback mid-week due
    to Creaney's poor form but pulled a hamstring in the reserves last
    Saturday.
    
    We have been uncharacteristically poor up at the front in the last
    month while being very characteristically poor at the back. Hopefully a
    return to form by him will make the likes of Creaney who's been slow and
    uneffective and Payton who's just been uneffective.
    
    With all our defensive woes at the moment whats happened to Rudi "Holy"
    Vata, surely he's due a run now as he cant be anyworse than Peter
    Grant, ( pushing Galloway in mid field ).
    
    BTW did anyone notice that yet again Hatley was on an offside position
    when the through ball went to Durrant.... how old's yer Granny
    linesman ? 

    
    re.-1
    
    Is that a minor chip on one's shoulder or is it the usual bucket
    full!!!!
    
        Jonno
    
    PS What is more important to you? Supporting Celtic or issues at Ibrox?
    
    

            
     <<Rangers(small club as they are) have a mere 30,000 Season ticket
       holders and if the nice people at Leeds wish to give us all the  
       tickets we will fill out there ground as well!!      ^^
    
          Jonno 8^) >>
    
    And tell me Jonno, which club do you support ?   Is it Falkirk, the
    Govan John Merrick lookalikes or just whatever suits at the time of
    entering a reply to this conference ?
    
    SQFCSC
    
    
    
    

     The Lang Building group have offered Celtic A 50 Million pound refit to
    Parkhead.This is what the boards have been waiting for someone to come
    along and hand Celtic a new stadium.Work would begins right away by
    tearing down the jungle and replacing it with a two tear stand then the
    rest of the ground would be fitted with seats.
     I hope they remember to leave lots of room from the seat in front as
    we all know how you all get carried away when you score and FALL and
    break a row of seats. @:^))
    
    SQF Blue nose.

    re.-1
    
         Sorry JJ. I promise never to do anything to upset you again!!
     It was perhaps a bad choice of word but seeing the reaction it brings
     certain people it was probably worth it. If I am not entitled to
     express my opinion then what is the point of the conference.
    
       BTW. I probably no longer could call myself a Falkirk fan as I have
    only been to a couple of games all year although I still like to see
    them win. 
            I've been to Ibrox a couple of times. Does that make me an
    total hun? Mind you in the past when circumstances prevailed I've even
    been to Parkhead for a season.
    
         Jonno
    
             

    re .- 2
    
    I cannot believe it !!!!! somebody on this planet actually believes that
    when Gerry McSmackgub opens his scoff hole-someone actually thinks that
    what comes out is true and not just ( yet ) another figment of his 
    very fertile imagination ( the man who said Mogga was out for the rest 
    of the season and was forced to eat his words on telly).
    
    The problem with Gerry is that he gets a sniff of a possible story then
    by the time he's added in all his own bits he's turned a respectable
    piece of journalism into a ludicrous piece of fiction, standard tabloid
    practice I suppose.
    
    Anyway for the beneift of you gullible huns when you see this man on
    telly follow the following prodcure ;
    
    1. Do not believe anything the man says
    
    2. Turn the volume way down on the telly and protect your ears, ( play
       your Hi-fi at top volume )
    
    3. If his image persists on the screen turn the telly off
    
    4. If by the time your turn the telly on he's still there phone up STV
       and complain.
    
    5. If symptoms persist consult your local MP
    
    The above actions should prevent classic symptons of Gerryitis such as
    uncontrollable vommiting, bleeding ears, broken remote controls, 
    cracked TV tubes and footprints on the TV screen. 
     
    re -3 Considering 90% of the note was about the "Tic and you are the one
    in this note what do you think ?  Just need to keep everyone invloved
    up to date on the European SQUARE activities

     Since when did fact or truth become factor in an opportunity to have a
    dig at the opposition.@:^).
    
     So your saying Laing didn't offer to upgrade Celtic Park.?
    
    SQF Blue nose 

    Thats right Laing Construction are offering to build Celtic a new stadium
    and GIVE!! them 50 million for the privilage of doing so.
    When asked WHY they were doing this Gerry Mcnee said it was because
    Laing were a "cash rich company",with a reason like that it must be 
    true.
    
    SQFCSC.......
                                           

    
    
     Don't know the full details about this offer, but Celtic have
    declined. They would have to pay back 5 million quid a year for x
    amount of years to Laing so it's hardly free. According to some paper
    or rag I read, the Celtic board held a 6 hour meeting and decided that
    the Cambuslang complex is still the one for them.
    
     Danny.

    
    I see Celtic had the begging bowl out last night. An offer was placed
    to stage the Leeds-Stuttgart game at Parkhead. The SFA immediately 
    knocked them back...
    

    With the construction industry in its current state and the upshot of
    the Taylor report I'm sure construtction company's are battering down
    the doors of Premier football clubs chairman's offices. And for a
    construction company in Britain there surely would not be any larger
    prize that a new Celtic Park with extended facilities, possible
    shopping complex blah blah blah. I would not be suprised if most major
    construction companies in Scotland had fired a proposal with the dream
    of landing a high exposure large contract such as the nouvelle Paradise.
    
    I also would not be suprised if certain people with access to the media
    were getting backhanders in these dire times for getting good exposure 
    for such schemes, do not believe that what you see is left to chance....
    
    

    
    RE: 48.454
    
    GORDON,
    
    The SFA did not knock back Celtics offer of staging the Leeds-Stuttgart
    game at Parkhead.
    
    Did you hear this info on Sport in Question last night ? If you did,
    you should know that it was the panel that said it would not happen, not
    the SFA.
    
    Arnie
    

    
    	re 48.454
    
    	Gordon,
    		I suppose that Rangers offered the use of their 
    	stadium was purely a gesture of goodwill and had nothing
    	to do with the 1 million pounds or so they would recieve
    	in turn. 
    
    		So, it seems that if it's Celtic it's  "begging"
    	and if it's the huns  it's  " good business accumen !"
    
    		What a load of BOL*&%KS.
    
    	SQFCSC

    
    RE.-2
    
    	Arnie,
    
    		If you cleaned your ears out then you may have heard
    Archie saying that the studio had called Jim (The SFA) Farry and
    that he had said that the SFA would block the game.  
    
    RE.-1
    
    	Rangers have put forward Ibrox to stage a FINAL due to the
    prestige of these events AND because their stadium can handle 
    such a game AND because of the money it will generate not just
    because they have a free Saturday.
    
    
    

Can anyone tell me who the 'tic are palying on Oct 24th ?

Thanks....Mark

    Mark,
    
    Celtic are at home to mighty Airdrie on Oct 24.

    Bhoys,
    
    What about a match report from the Jam Tarts game the other night ??
    
    Cheers,
    
    Steph.
    

    
    
    
    7th October 92
    
    Celtic.....1  Hearts.....1
    
    Miller,6      Preston,38
    
    Att.24,351
    
    You'd be as well looking back to some of my previous match reports on
    games played at Celtic Park, coz it was the same old story in this one.
    
    Celtic started off like a whirlwind. Slater took the ball down the
    right wing, stopped & played a very intelligent ball into Miller just
    inside the box. The wee winger beat one defender & shot high past Henry
    Smith top make it 1-0.
    We had another two good chances minutes later to increase the lead, but
    Creaney shot wide with one of them & Slater's diving header was just a
    foot too high with Smith beaten.
    Hearts never threatened Bonner's goal until that wee excuse for a full
    back, Pratt McNally decided to give away a corner needlessly. The ball
    was crossed into the box, Mowbray could only half clear & the ball fell
    for new signing Alan Preston to thump the ball past Packie (but only
    just) from 18 yards.
    
    Half time 1-1
    
    There wasn't a lot of scoring chances in the second half, but the ones
    that came closest came from Payton (twice), who came on for Miller & 
    McStay.
    Payton, with only the keeper to beat, hit a weak 12 yard shot straight
    at Smith & then saw another effort drift wide when it looked
    easier to score.
    McStay's drive from 18 yards was held comfortably by the keeper.
    
    No more goals, although Celtic laid seige on Smith's goal for the
    entire second half, a point was all they had to show for their efforts.
    
    Footnote:
    
    Iain Baird is the dirtiest striker I've ever clapped eyes on. He
    elbowed the defenders at every opportunity & dived about like a swallow
    the entire match.
    Twice I saw him kick Galloway & Mowbray long after the ball was
    cleared.
    David Syme had a relatively ggod match apart from missing these fouls,
    although I would have thought that the linesmen should have brought the
    matter to his attention at least once !
    

    I would'nt be so hard on McNally, Mowbray was the one again at fault
    here.
    
    Thats the second time in recent weeks he has cleared the ball from
    within hi own area only to see it enter the net from a voley at the
    edge of the box, the last one being Wright from that other Edinburgh
    mob. In all his gung - ho ness he has to remember that any Midfielder /
    Short arse striker worth his salt waits for the cleared ball from a 
    cross on the edge of the penalty area.
    
    He was challenging for this same ball with another Celtic player ( McNally
    again ) which is another one of his annoying habits and the ball spun
    off the back of his head and onto the foot of Preston. Two of Mowbray's
    most frequent abberations at the one time means .... same sad old
    story.
    
    My prescription is two tablespoons of bromide a day and a goose at a
    couple of videos of Paul Elliot in action.

    
    Motherwell........1  Celtic.........3
    
    McCart               Miller
                         Galloway(pen)
                         Grant
    
    A nice wee boost just in time for the Dortmund tie !
    
    

    The match is live on SAT1 tonight kick off 20:00

    
    Borussia Dortmund	- Celtic Glasgow
    	
    		1	- 	0
    
    	Chapuisat 70'
    
    Bottomline:
    	Due to a lack of courage and ideas, Dortmund was unable to crack
    	the scottish defense.
     

             Bor. Dortmund 1 .v. 0 Celtic
    
    Saw the game on the box last night here in Germany.
    
    A very stuffy, workmanlike performance from the Celts which leaves
    them handily placed for the return leg at Parkhead.
    
    Pluses - showed plenty of commitment from the whole team for 90mins.
           - Were prepared to have a go when the (few) opportunities arose.
           - Didn't let the goal (71 mins) upset the pattern of play.
    
    Minuses - Didn't capitalise on a couple of good chances
            - Had a couple of players booked for needless offences
            - A rather flat-footed defense resulted in the only goal.
    
    You couldn't compare the inept performance against FC Koln in Cologne
    with this one. Celtic rediscovered their spirit this time.
    
    With a forward line containing the likes of Chapuisant (sp?), Dortmund
    will always be capable of scoring - so - Celtic will have to be *very*
    careful at Parkhead.
    
    I have a feeling they'll have to score 3 times (again) to go through,
    as I can't see Celtic (in attack mode) not losing a home goal.
    
    Should be a real pot-boiler in 2 weeks!
    
    Tom                                    

    
    Any Tims out there with thoughts as to who Brady should play against
    Dortmund on Tuesday ?
    
    My team would be:    Marshall
    
                         Boyd
                         Wdowczyk
                         Gillespie
                         Mowbray
    
                         Galloway
                         Collins
                         McStay
    
                         Slater
                         Nicholas
                         Creaney
    
                         Subs: Miller,Fulton,O'Neil,Grant & McNally
    
    
    

    
    The team against Dortmund WILL be!
    
                               Bonner
    
               Boyd      Mowbray   Gillespie      Galloway    
    
                         Grant     McStay         Collins
               Miller
    
                         Slater    Creaney
    
    Subs:Marshall, Nicholas, Fulton, O'Neil and McNally.
                                                        

    
    	I think Brady will go for
    
    				Marshall
    
    		Boyd	Mowbray	   Gillespie	  Wdowczyk
    
    
    		Galloway   Grant	 McStay	Collins
    
    
    		       Slater		Creaney
    		
    		Subs. Nicholas,O'Neil,Fulton,Millar,Young Goalkeeper

    I thot Marshall was injured... BTW is there any satellite coverage of
    the game in Germany tonight ?

    Re -1.
    
    I believe ARD 1 are showing the game live . Programme starts at 8:15
    CET.
    
    Tom

    Is it tonight or tommorrow ?
    
    	- Robin

    Tonight Mr Delaney - don't miss it - it should be a cracker!!
    
    Tom
    
    ps I still predict Celtic will have to score 3 times to go through..

   Na Tom, I can't see Celtic scoring three goals... Although Dortmund are
going through a weak patch at the moment, they still have more class up front
and if they click I wouldn't be surprised if they win tonight. Naturally I
hope Celtic win.

                                                           -dave-

    Dave,
    
    couldn't agree more...the reason I mentioned that Celtic will have to
    score 3 is because I can't see Dortmund, Chapuisat et al...NOT scoring.
    
    The jungle will need to be in good voice tonight, that's for sure!!
    
    Tom

    JJ,
    
    On the team selection........what is Brady up to overlooking Charlie
    in favour of players who don't have a quarter of his ability, and who
    are not scoring regularly.
    
    Like you, I'd play Charlie from the start and play into his feet up front
    thereby bringing the midfield and other front-men into the game in 
    dangerous positions.   
    
    Cheers,
    
    Steph.
    

    
    
    re.-1 I must agree on the point about playing Charlie from the start,as
          the attack were pretty clueless on Saturday.I'd like to see Brady
          keeping the same defence as he had against St. Johnstone,but drop
          Bonnar and Millar (who is a complete waste of space),and play
          either Payton or Creaney along with Slater and Chas up front.
    
       Hopefully it should be:-
    
    
         Marshall
         Galloway
         Boyd
         Grant
         Mowbray
         Gillespie
         Payton/Creaney
         McStay
         Nicholas
         Slater
         Collins
    
    
    Subs; who cares,the above should do the business !!!
    
    
    ps. Pat Johnstone is still looking for a ticket,can anyone help him
        out ?

As stated in previouse replies, the game is on 1 ARD starting at 20:15. This
is unfortunately not a satellite channel (but if you're in Germany...yer awright)

Malcolm

Latest score anyone??

    QUOTE
          Liam Brady must wake up some days and wonder what the hell he's
    doing at Celtic. Those Irish eyes that were smiling just 18 months ago
    seemed to have dimmed under the relentless pressure of boardroom
    bungling. Liam could be living at peace with the world in Dublin, Milan
    or even in the rat-race of London. At least you can see rats down there
    easier than the snakes at Parkhead.
    
          The constant hassle seems to be getting to him. I don't for a
    minute, for instance, believe that we witnessed the real Liam Brady
    when he flew into an angry rage at the Airdrie dug-out the other day.
    But you can understand Brady for cracking up. To coin a phrase form the
    Minera v the Government... all he wants is a level playing field.
    
          His latest trauma is trying to explain to his professionals why
    they will earn 1,500 tonight if they beat Dortmund, while Rangers are
    guaranteed around 20,000 for licking Leeds tomorrow. It would be naive
    of anyone that it's all about playing for the jersey any longer and
    that money doesn't matter.
    
          Try telling that to the Celtic lads, who know Rangers stars will
    have coined in over 40,000 in bonuses so far this season if they win at
    Elland Road. Of course, the Celtic lads will still give their all. But
    there's nothing like hard cash to discover that little bit extra when
    the going gets tough.
    
          Liam's facing five of the most crucial days of his reign this
    week, with Rangers looming on Saturday. He could be out of Europe and
    trailing his rivals, who have a game in hand, by six points in the
    championship. But he won't be sacked - Celtic can hardly afford another
    staff pay-off. 
    
          I have the feeling, though, that Liam Brady is not the sort of
    man to work on with his hands tied behind his back. If he went of his
    own accord it would turn a Celtic drama into a crisis! I hope it
    dosen't come to that because Scottish football needs a successful
    Celtic and Brady, all being equal, can provide it. UNQUOTE
    
    Cutting comments from Andy McInnes THE STAR - without permission.
    
    Stephen
    
     

                        Celtic 1 .v. 2 B. Dortmund
    
    Essentially a game of 2 halfs. In the first, Celtic got off to the
    perfect start. A goal in 13 mins from Gerry Crainey following an
    intelligent piece of play from a corner. With the exception of
    the last 5 mins of the first half Celtic looked well in command,
    Boyd in particular was giving his marker a nightmare with his
    strong purposeful flank attacking. 
    
    The Germans were lucky not to be reduced to 10 men after Bodo xxxx
    committed two bookable fouls in quick succession. After being
    yellow-carded for the first offence, he was waved away unpunished
    for a slightly worse replica foul minutes later.
    
    IMO the referee bottled his decision. 
    
    The game began to swing in those dying minutes of the first half.
    Suddenly the "Scottish supporters nightmare" swung into life in the
    shape of Chapuisat, who had 2 great chances to score, narrowly missing
    on both occasions. The Celtic defense which up until that time had
    looked well organised and solid, began to crumble and sadly the writing
    was very much on the wall for the second half.
    
    It was all over for the Scots in a frantic 5 minute spell, when the
    Germans exposed acres of space through the heart of the Celtic
    rear-gaurd to score twice.
    
    With 60 mins gone, the game was dead and buried!
    
    To summarise, it was another night for the poor long suffering Scottish
    football supporter in Europe, where the team manage to snatch defeat
    from the jaws of victory.
    
    Scotland have one chance left (World Cup Qual. in Glasgow) to give this
    impish Swiss thorn-in-the-flesh (Chapuisat) a good gubbin'.
    
    What are our chances there I wonder ?
    
    Tom
    ps Good luck to both 'Gers and Hearts tonight...I think they'll both need
       it!

    RE -2
    
    A 1500 sum is a paltry payment when lined up aganist MIM's bonus but
    remember the guaranteed gate money for the EuroLeague will easily cover
    that and most of MIM's directors slaries as well.
    
    Well done to MIM last night, my nationalistic ferver overcame me and I
    actually cheered Sally when he scored but will MIM risk the scottish
    champioship in a bid to win the European, things that make you go mmm..

    
    re -1
    
    lets be honest, and remember Im not a rangers supporter, Rangers can
    afford to rest key players for European games, and not risk the Scots
    premier league.  At the present time, Rangers are superior to every
    Scottish team, and while the odd result may make others think
    otherwise, they will walk away with the Scots Prem.  They are now 6 pts
    clear with a game in hand, even if Celtic beat them this weekend, if
    they won the game in hand they are still 6 pts clear.
    
    My hope is that Rangers play to their best abilities in the next
    stages of the Euro Cup, and I will be there, on the sofa, cheering them
    on, as I was last night.
    
    Paul 

    If you plant a feather would you grow a chicken....
    
    	if.......if.........if......
    
    in the words of Walt Smiff "We now have to play at Tynecastle, Pittodrie &
    Paradise, I'll make a judgement on the league after that"
    
    As ever Celtic have nothing to fear from MIM, it teams like Falkirk and
    The Jags that we have to worry about, you beat teams like that week in
    week out you win the league.
    
            Hope springs eternal.....if not games a bogey.

What is MIM ?

    There used to be a basketball team named MIM, he got fed up with them
    and moved into football.
    
    The men down at Somerset park didnt let him in so he threw away his Ayr
    UTD scarf and bought out Sputnik Govan.

    
    Rangers walked away from Parkhead with two points on Saturday. Ian
    Durrant scoring the only goal of the match in the 32nd minute.
    
    I don't think I've ever been at a more one sided Old Firm match in my
    life.
    Celtic totally dominated from start to finish, but again failed to put
    the ball in the back of the net.
    The were caught by the inevitable sucker punch when Gordon crossed,
    McCoist nodded down & Durrant poked the ball past Bonner.
    
    Gough cleared a McStay drive off the line, Goram saved brilliantly from
    Slater twice & the wee man also saw an effort clip the bar in the
    second half.
    As I said, it was all Celtic & the fact that it took Rangers 28 minutes
    into the second half to mount there first attack of the second period
    underlines this.
    
    With the Huns now 6 points ahead of us & with a game in hand...I am
    ready to concede the title to Ibrox alreay !!!
    
    Oh well, we'll just have to concentrate on the Cup (now where have I
    heard that before !)
    
    Saturdays team:    Bonner, Galloway, Wdowczyk, Gillespie, Mowbray,
                       Grant, Boyd, McStay, Slater, Creaney, Collins.
                       Subs: Nicholas & O'Neil
    
    Next match v Dundee United (Tannadice 11th November)
    
      

    JJ....
    
    To quote the great Jock Stein ........
    
    as long as we score 1 more than the opposition..that will do me...
    
    
    SQF Jambo

      
    
    Announced on news last night.
                                Celtic's dream move to a new super stadium
    at Cambuslang will take place!!!!
       By using amazing business accumen our forward thinking directors
    have managed to find 12 outside backers to totally finance the project,
    whilst still giving Celtic ownership of the ground.
      The only obsticle in the way of the new Paraidice is gaining planning
     permission from Glasgow City Council but as the venture will create
    2000 new jobs and inject 78 million pounds into the local community
    this should not cause any problems.
     
    After this amazing announcement I could'nt wait to read the daily
    ranger and the scottish hun to see Alex Cameron and Co eat large slices
    of humble pie. What did they print ? Absolutly nothing. They just
    totally ignored the whole story. No doubt they will now try their level 
    best to discredit Celtic's plans instead of admitting they were wrong
    and the present board are the best men for the job. 8*)
    
                      Martin SQFCSC....................
                  
    

    
    I take it they found an old memo from Mr Cassidy then....It sounds like
    one of his press releases...8*)
    

    Heard that one of the major backers was Lego.  @:^)

    Distinct taste of sour grapes here....
    
    			....rememeber that MIM have forked out 10's of
    millions on their stadium and their 55million pound would still only
    get 10 bob if they melted it down. Nouvelle Paradice however will only
    cost Celtic FC 2 million quid.
    
    		...all these ludicrous claims that were being made were
    backup up by Superstadia, the same mob that financed Sputnik Govan's
    stadium.

    
    	How can it be sour grapes when we've already got what you lot
    want, a great Stadium that is virtually full for most games.   
    
    	As a point of interest who has said they'll give Celtic the
    materials and build this Nouvelle Piggery for free ?? My understanding
    is that the 2million quid is the price of the land. If they have got
    sponsers for the rest It'll be interesting to see how they plan to
    recover their investments. You don't get something for nothing... 
      
                                                                     

    
    RE last few concerning the Yahoos' new stadium.
    
    So THAT'S what the second hand floodlight bulbs are for.

                   One Piggery, live stock included 
                   Needs some attention,
                   For Quick Sale.

                   Contact:: Farmer Brady
                   
                             

    
    Folks,
    
    Either Rab's spelling has taken a turn for the better......or the Big
    Numpti has had a spare three hours this morning to master the art !
    
    Then again, I wonder when he mastered the art of logging in ?
        

    Now I would go easy on him, it usually requires a gathering of three
    or four of them to think of something to say. It would appear he
    risked this and went for it alone.
    
    This guy obviousely got a bit excited this morning after last nights
    Turkey Shoot comeback and just having realised Paradise was not up to
    the standard of MIMs ground thought he would point it out to us.
    
    A commendable effort considering it was still only 10:15 am.
    
    Maybe by this afternoon he will have remembered we have won nothing but
    the Tennants Sixes in the last three years and proceed to point this
    out, we'll just have to wait and see. 
    
    Would'nt hold my breath though
                                                 
    

    
    
    Sorry Chaps,
              I'm afraid I have to take  the blame for the big Goats recent 
    foray(sp) into notes. Unfortunately I showed him how to log on so no
    doubt we will hear more of his words of wisdom in the future.
    
                                      Martin (In the huff with Rab)......
    
    P.S. Rab has worked here for two years...........

    
    Me thinks Mr Frew has left himself logged in again..........

    I think they spelt Jerseys wrong to throw us off the scent as thats 
    quite a big word for Rab to spell.....!!!
    
    
    
    
    Anon.

    
    Scottish Premier League
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Celtic...........2 (Slater, Vata)
    Aberdeen.........2 (Jess, Kane)
    

    Well I wiz...
    
    Slater gave us the perfect start by silencing his critics and ending
    his 77 game famine with a 7 minute strike.
    
    After that the sheep took control and never really lost it. It was a
    defensive nightmare last night and thats what caused both goals. Last
    nights game was not one of Boyd's best and his was weak tackle that
    allowed Jess through to score 4 minutes later. McNally then had the
    first of many aberations and gave the ball away to Booth who
    slotted it through for Kane to score.
    
    I missed the equlaiser as I was still scoffing my pie, needless to say
    another new boy Vata got his first competitive goal.
    
    Only Slater and Bonner were worth mentioning, McStay and Collins were
    serving pies in the Celtic end and Mowbray also ranked in the nightmare
    proportions.
    
    Creaney hit the post with five mins to go and Bett smacked the bar two
    mins later.
    
    Lucky to get away with a point and it looks like the sheep could go all
    the way this year, find out in two weeks time....

    
    
    
      The equaliser....from what I can remember the ball was crossed in from
    the left by either Boyd or Collins,Payton chested it down and turned,
    the ball spun across to Vata who flicked it over Snelders into the roof
    of the net.After that it was end to end stuff (without doubt the best
    game I've seen all season !),but I thought the Bhoys deserved a penalty
    when Slater was fouled in the box and managed to stay on his feet,only
    to be fouled again !
      I was impressed with Vata's contribution,because when I saw him a few
    months ago I thought he was a real cart horse!He must have been the
    only player in the team who didn't actually waste a pass and played
    simple,but effective football down the right side,until he was moved
    into the right back berth late in the game,because McNally hadn't a
    clue.
      With Gillespie,Mowbray,Galloway,Wdowcyk (sp?) and ONeil either
    injured or suspended for the game against Partick Thistle this 
    afternoon,Brady is really struggling for any resemblence of a defence.
    Maybe they should do what the huns did,....hose the park and say they
    had a burst pipe,and cancel the game ?
      Here's one to get the fans talking.....last weekend le petit merde,
    the Anti-Christ,call him what you want was rumoured to be going back to
    the huns !Yes it's true he did visit Ibrox,but he was actually up
    talking to Celtic !!!!(I got this info from someone who was at his
    wedding,but if I get any follow ups I'll pass it on)
    
    
    Andy
    
                                                             

    
    Partick Thistle.......2    Celtic.........3
    
    Farningham, 2              Payton      (H/T 1-2)
                               Grant
                               Creaney
    
    
    Andy Payton opened the scoring early in the 1st half after good work
    from Slater. He picked up on a defensive mistake at the edge of the
    box & squared the ball to Payton.
    From 18 yards, he slotted the ball past Nelson off the inside of the
    post.
    The second was a 25 yard strike from Peter `natty wee demi-wave' 
    with matching sideburns' Grant.
    The ball broke high off a defender & the mad man scored another
    excellent goal to match the beaut he scored at Fir Park a few weeks
    past.
    Thistle pulled one back before the break when fater some concerted
    pressure, Ray `Lovely tackle on Huistra btw' Farningham shot high past
    Bonner from 14 yards.
    In the second half, Thistle played some good football & perhaps should
    have equalised before Gerry Creaney scored with his first touch of the
    ball after replacing Charlie `Let me go to Japan' Nicholas.
    Vata (who played a blinder btw) crossed to PAyton on the edge of the
    box. He turned his marker with speed & squared it to Gerry `Do
    something with that wedge please' Creaney to side foot ther ball past
    the ugly keeper (must be a Hun !).
    Thistle to their credit didn't give up & if Bonner hadn't been in top
    form again, they may well have snatched a point.
    All in all a good two points to snaffle with only one recognised
    defender on display (And even he was playing centre-half when he's
    normally a full-back !)
    
    Next game V Dundee 12th December
    
    Saturdays team:  
    Bonner,O'Neil,Collins,McNally,Boyd,Vata,Grant,McStay,Slater,Nicholas,Payton
    Subs: Creaney & Smith 
    

    
    
    Result from yesterday.....
    
    
    Celtic    1     Dundee    0    (h/t 0-0)
    
    Payton
    
    
         Not one of the bhoys better performances,but 2 points never the
    less.Celtic were camped in Dundees half for most of the game,especially
    in the first half without creating too many chances.McStay had put more
    effort into his first half display than he had in his previous 3 games,
    and should have scored after working a nice 1-2 with Vata,but slipped
    when clean through on goal.
         Celtic started the second half on the attack,and within 10 minutes
    of the re-start took the lead.McStay won the ball in the middle of the
    Dundee half,played the ball out to McNally on the right,he swung in a
    cross for Payton who bulleted an unstopable header past the keeper.
    	Celtic had the chances to increase their lead,but Payton headed
    straight at the keeper after some good work by Grant and Vata,and
    then Vata himself hit the inside of the post from an acute angle,instead
    of squaring it to Payton for an easy tap in.
    	Celtic deserved the victory,but a poor back pass by McCarrison (who
    had just come on as sub) had Bonner struggling and nearly cost us a
    point.Celtic are still lacking the killer instinct as well as a good
    poacher.....maybe Tommy Coyne is due for a recall ?
    
    
    Andy.

    My father in law said that there was a radio report on the new stadium
    (proposed new stadium that should read), and that there is some form of
    unique funding which results in Celtic having to pay very little
    towards the cost.  How did they manage/propose this ??
    
    Cheers
    
    Paul

    
    RE:Last,
    	   Well,first they let the taxpayers pay for the refurbishment of
    Hampden Park,then they go cap in hand to the SFA,and voila,a brand new
    stadium at no cost to themselves.Quite simple really!!!

    RE:.511,
           Celtic buy the land for 2 million pounds and therefore keep the
    controling interest.
      Then dozens of companys fight over who will give Celtic the money to
    build the stadium.
      Celtic then allow a chosen few to build their hotels, cinemas,
     supermarkets etc around the finest stadium complex in Europe.
          Simple but brilliant....
    
    RE:Last,
           Well it would make a change from the huns going "cap in hand to
    the SFA". Asking to stage internationals in order to pay off their
    massive overdraught because they couldn't fund the building of their
    stadium properly.
    
    Sounds like sour grapes to me,
                                 Martin SQFCSC.........
    
          

    
    RE:Last.
    	   Get your facts right.It was the SFA who came grovelling to
    Rangers because Ibrox was the only all seated ground big enough
    to host the World Cup qualifiers, thus enabling all those free
    loaders at Park Gardens to make enough dosh to pay for their
    5 star hotels in the States,if Scotland do manage to qualify.

    Looking at the crowd I'd of said McDermott Park was big enough...
    
    ... anyway whats this got to do with CFC
    
    ....lets get back to the real issue of just when will Brady get his
    finger out and sign Kevin Gallagher and get some quality into our
    attack.

      
    
    re.-1
    
    I wouldn't say the problem was with the attack,but with the midfield, 
    who aren't creating enough chances for the attack to prove themselves.
    Let's hope we play 3 in attack (including Nicholas) against Dundee Utd
    on Saturday.
    
    
    Andy. 

    Re last,
    Little wonder you lot are on the way to the scrapheap with a statement 
    like that. If the midfield can't get the ball to two attackers how the
    hell are they going to get the ball to three. Its not hard to work out
    that the third striker would mean a  man LESS in midfield. So, to make
    it easier to understand, the midfield would be playing with an extra
    man less. So with this logical thinking we can look forward to the 'tic
    playing alongside Pollok and Baillieston and the rest of the crap from
    the Central league. Gon yersel, and wait till Auchinleck gets you in
    the Junior cup.
     

    
    Spoken like the true Hun that you are James !
    
    SQFCSC

    I just heard on the lunchtime news that Frank McAvennie has pulled out
    of the deal with Partick Thistle after Celtic approached him and he
    is at Parkhead today (Thurs 31st Dec) to talk to Brady. I always
    thought "Maca" was one of the best players at Celtic park in recent
    years and would be be pleased to see him in a Celtic jersey again,
    although I'm sure it will be viewed with a fair amount of sniggering
    by the cream buns et al. I'm glad that Brady appears to have finally
    admitted to himself where our problems lie and if he does play Maca,
    that he has the common sense to play Charlie along-side him. I must
    admit it appears as the act of a man desperate to win the Scottish
    Cup.
    
    	Eddie

    Once again we played Rangers off the park and took nothing from the
    game. I've never seen so many clear cut chances wasted in my life, but
    to be fair that well known Englishman, Morag (who incidentally was
    making 'flute' gestures to the crowd) made some fine saves. The point
    remains though that any strikers worth their salt would have buried
    at least two of the several chances created. Rangers had one good
    chance and scored from it; apart from that Bonner was rarely troubled.
    The fact that Payton is now injured with a hamstring injury paves the
    way for a fresh man up front (Charlie? Maca? Coyne?). The really sad
    thing is that the huns have two recognised strikers whereas we have 
    at least 5; Brady should never need to worry about re-arranging the
    team if a striker is out. What we need is a good old-fashioned poacher;
    somebody like Andy Walker during his first season.
    As for the referee I wouldn't say he was biased as much as completely
    incompetent; the number of bad decisions (for both sides) was too
    numerous to mention but one in particular was very annoying as follows;
    towards the end of the game Eeyun Fergishin who had already been spoken
    to after clattering McStay in the first half, deliberately kicked
    Collins at knee level when super JC was moving away from the moronic
    one with the ball at his feet; the Ref politely requested the ugly one
    to "calm it down"; this was after having recently booked McCall and
    O'Neil for talking back.
    	Anyway, let's just hope the other Frank doesn't cause an upset next
    Saturday.
    
    		Eddie (Larkhall CSC) 

    
    No league today 

    Just noticed on the news that Celtic have finally managed to get rid
    of that midfield maestro Martin Hayes to Welsh giants Swansea for the
    low, low knockdown price of zilch.
    
    Good piece of business that. A loss of 650000. 
    
      Jonno.
    

    
    Oh Oh.....The Falkirk Hun from Govan has resurfaced !
                                          
    

    Hello JJ,
            glad to see that you missed me.  Just thought I'd mention to
    you that I no longer go to Brockville and don't plan to go back.  I
    certainly won't be back as long as they give Celtic and just about any
    other team for that matter points as a going away present.
    
       As for the personal insults column that you seem to enjoy firing in
    my direction after most of my entries in to any football note, I think
    perhaps you should take them elsewhere.  
    
       I thought that Hayes leaving may be of general interest to the
    Celtic noters who didn't know.  The dig at the money being wasted was
    meant to be a joke but then you wouldn't understand a joke ever being
    made about Celtic.
    
       Jonno
    

    
    
    Hi
    
    I heard on the radio that Celtic are pulling out of the Scottish Super
    League set-up. 
    
    Anyone got any info why ?
    
    Arnie
    
    

    Now that Celtic have returned to the fold and the "SSL" continues...
    ..does this mean that we will be playing Ayr UTD et al for a place in
    "The Champions of Europe" league as the SFA will have nothing to do with
    Wallarse, MIM & Co.
    
    
    ...  I feel the treble coming on next year, and MIM wont be able to
    defend their European Cup triumph......shame
    

    Re last,
             Its easy to understand why Celtic have withdrawn. With
    Aberdeen, Rangers and Dundee Utd out of the way it will be much easier
    to win something playing against the likes of Brechin, Forfar,
    Meadowbank, Huntly and Cumnock.
                                      

    Looks like the Celtic board of directors have got it just right after
    yesterdays display.
    Withdrawing from the SSL seems the most sensible thing they've done
    for years.
    
    May i also take this opportunity to wish all those Celtic fans out
    there all the best in a league of there own.
    
    
    Another SQF Jambo
    
                     C'mon the SSL.
    
    

    
    Withdrawl. Is this an attempt to stop a takeover. Maybe they've done it
    to get their house in order but three years without a trophy. The team
    should have been sorted out by now, not by bying stopgap players but
    players who are good enough to pull on the jersey. The financial
    difficulties they are in now will be nothing compared to this
    withdrawl. Celtic need to be part of the SSL because this is where all
    the sponsorship money will be in the future. Also a full press
    statement should have been made at the time, "We're pulling out..." is
    just not good enough. 
    Why will they not at least let someone with a business brain, or just a
    brain onto the board. If Murray had moved into Celtic instead of
    Rangers they would be on a sound footing by now. Rangers were going
    nowhere before Murray and look at them now. Lets be realistic, we have
    no sponsor and no money to improve the team. Success breeds money and
    none will be forthcoming at this latest escapade.
    I think i've got my point across, or we'll be joining the ranks of
    Third lanark and Renfrew.
    
    Totally dejected...colin.
    
    

    Whatever happened to Cathkin Park ??

    
    Probably got an office block built on it now.....8*)
    
    colin.

    Yeh - Gordon "Monaco Mad" Stuart lent me a mag once that had a picture
    of Cathkin terraces covered in weeds - however I've a feeling that
    Barratt have got to it now ..
    
    Ray

    Awfully quiet in here these days.I know there's not much to shout about
    on the football front fou you lot but what about some honest discussion
    on your thoughts about the board going with the SFL instead of the
    SSL.I thought this note would have been full of opinions on this.
    
    				Gordon

    These notes are used to discuss form, results and team, not the ups and
    downs of politicians with Scottish football, you can account / make
    excuses for on the park activity where it is for all to see and argue
    about, but not shady backroom board meetings etc, get ma drift.
    
    The behaviour of the board speaks for itself however maybe their
    motives are more honourable.
    
    If they say...as they do...that the SFL's proposal meets the
    requirements initally set out by Superleague then why change, after all
    the F.A. premier league hasnt exactly set the world on fire. 
    
    Remember the SSL is voting against a reduced fixture league, their top
    priority, a league they will have to play in next year regardless
    before the proposed SSL starts season 94/95. Why not play in that type
    of format to see how it goes ? Personally I would prefer a 10 team
    league / winter break playing into June, but we all have our own beef
    about that.
    
    It wouldnt suprise me if Celtic had done a deal with the SFA to get
    Hampen for European ties ( if we get there ). That is understandable,
    our board set up prevents people with millions moving onto our board.
    
    All this type of business is worked out behind doors, not really much
    you can say
    

    Well I'm offsky as tommorrow I am severed, ouch, sounds painful 
    
    ... a real shame really as 'Tic were just turning the corner....not.
    
    Dissappointing times as with MIM having a heavy schedule in Europe they
    were going to have to field their girls team in the league while the
    big guns were doing battle in Europe. And with weather like this a
    heavy schedule of replays could have put us & the sheep in a
    challenging position...oh well..
    
    On a constructive note now that Coventry are out the Cup there is no
    reason at all why Brady should not sign Kevin Gallagher and get some
    bite in our attack.
    
    I've had enough of the roon ball game for a while anyway, keep your
    eyes glooed to the screen on 31st January at the Sooperbool, you'll see
    two mental Tims in Celtic shirts, a guy with a camcorder and a huge
    Scotland flag, I'll be the the tall good looking one with all his
    own teeth.
    
    See you in paradise.............where ever that may be,
    
    Nick.                                                         
    
    

    
    Any truth in the rumour that the Timmites forward line are trying to
    break the British record,set by Chris Woods,for the most consecutive
    clean sheets?  

    
    Yes...this is indeed true !
    And after we've broken this record, we're going after the Huns all time
    low attendance record (v Morton) of 2000.
    We may be bad, but we'll never be THAT bad !!!!
    
    

    
     John,
         There must have been alot more than 2000 at the Morton game       
         you mention because every Hun I've ever spoken to or heard 
         interviewed was there.
    

    
    Martin,
    
    You mean to say, you understood what they were saying ?
    
    (Please note that the word `saying' can be replaced by
    grunting/snarling etc..))
                            
    

    Still saves you having to talk about the ineptness of Billy Brady's
    Bhoys.

    
    Scottish Cup 3rd round replay
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Celtic........ 1  Clyde....... 0
    
    Coyne, 39
    
    Another rivetting performance from our formidable forward line 8*)))
    
    

I saw the highlights last night.

Celtic could have won by alot more except for poor finishing, and a young
goalie who must have played the game of his life. He brought of some fine
saves.

Mick

    
    This was asked on RTE radio for the last 2 mornings.  I'm not convinced
    they gave the right answer
    
    Which club did Jock Stein manage before Celtic?
    
    Please don't just jump in if you heard the answer on the radio this
    morning.
    
    Gary.

    Dunfermline ??
    
    Paul

    Dunfermline it was.  He took them to a couple of Cup Finals in his time
    
    Kev..

    
    Re last 2, thanks lads.  I thought it was Dundfermline but wasn't he
    with Llanelli as well?
    
    Anyway RTE gave the answer as Hibernian.  Given that it took 2 days and
    no correct answers until this morning I was surprised.  
    
    I presume Hibs is definitely wrong.
    
    Gary.

    	I reckon he left Dunfermline to join Hibs.He later left Hibs to
    join Celtic.
    

    
    The D-Mob Bay J SQFCSC are of the same impression as the previous
    noter.
    
    

    
    It was Hibernian.
    
    Archie
    Old enough to remember, but only just!
    

    I was glad to see MacAvennie enjoy Saturdays match, he never stopped
    smiling for the 90 minutes (probably thinking of next weeks huge pay
    cheque).
    The conditions on Saturday bordered on the farcical & there was very
    little good football played. Any that was, obviously didn't come from
    the Silky Soccer stars of Airdrie, but from the best footballing side
    in the country.
    Looks like Charlie Nicholas' days at Parkhead are numbered by the way.
    When Brady spoke in the press last week about his choice of strikers,
    he mentioned everyone & all their individual strengths & I'm afraid
    poor Charlie didn't even rate a mention.
    
    Never mind Nick, no 1st team football for you....but you're still a
    better footballer than Sally McCoist  !
    
    

    Did MacAvennie "play" (and I use the word advisedly) or did he grin
    his way through the match from a seat in the main stand ???
    
    Ray

    
    Yes thats right, he made Celtic's goal with a glancing header 
    from his seat in the main stand...

    Nope actually - I don't have a note although I used to in the
    BALZAC days - PTFC Agro .. Ray

    
    Looks like another attempt at ousting the present board may not be too
    far away. Brain Dempsey has been known to be aquiring shares on behalf
    of Gerald WeirdsortofJewishname (Ex-What Every One Wants tycoon) &
    according to Gerry McHun on last nights Scotsport Extra-Time, the
    rebels (I like that word) aren't far off accumulating 50%+ of the
    shares in Celtic Football Club. Gerry `I love you Walter & I want to
    have your children' McHun wouldn't go into details but stated that next
    week he'll have a major announcement to make.....Watch this space !
    
    

   The news is here !!! Why wait for Gerry McHun and his MAJOR
   announcment when you can get it now !!!!




   Brian Dempsey ( Ex Actor, ie. Dempsey and Makepeace ) did not
   have enough financial backing and needed another party to go
   halfers and join the bobbles.. Oh I mean the rebels..and get   
   the 50+% of the shares needed. In steps Mr What Everyone
   Wants offers him the 20 quid for the other 26% of the shares,
   a set of green lycra strips ( for the home games ) and as many
   pairs of dancing cloggs that they need. All that remains now
   is for Mr Dempsey to sign the agreement and the deal will be
   done. It is expected to go through in about two weeks time, 
   as the stupid sh*te hasn`t got a clue ( which is probably why 
   he`s going back to Celtic ) and as far as my contacts have told
   me, he`s still learning to sign his own name, with the letters
   joined together ( part of the contract )...

   8-)))))))))))

  

    And if the deal doesn`t work out as planned, Gerry McHun himself
    is going to put in a massive bid of...
    
    
    42 quid !!!!! buy out the whole Celtic board, sell the team ( should
    get at least 200 quid for the 20 or so players available ), sell
    the flood light bulbs to Dundee Utd in a straight swap for Duncan
    Ferguson, sell Ferguson to his beloved Rangers for 2.5 million (
    making a wee profit to himself ) and sell the parkhead property
    to Dorothy Perkins.......
    
   Naaaaaaawwwwww

   Tam.....
                
   
      
    

    
    Result from yesterday:
    
    
    
    Celtic      1  (McStay)
    Motherwell  1  (not sure)
    
    
      The usual story.....Celtic had all the pressure and countless chances
    in the second half,and only had a Paul McStay goal (just after the re-
    start) to show for their efforts.MacAvennie,Coyne and Slater all had good
    chances in the game (Coyne even rounded the keeper,but still missed) but
    in fairness the 'well keeped was playing a blinder.
      Motherwell equalised in injury time (with only their second attempt in the
    2nd half),but it looked like a bit of a mix up between Gillespie and
    Bonner (I didn't really get a good view of it as I was heading out at
    the time,thinking the 2 points were in the bag).
      
      Man of the match ......Paul McStay.
    
    
    
    
    Andy.   

    
    RE:.554
    
    rebels (I like that word)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Yet another example of double standards from a person claiming to be
    a non-bigot in note 47.

    Latest result (couple of minutes to go).
    
    Celtic	5	St Johnstone 	1
    
    Coyne 2		Who cares.
    McAvennie
    Duvchek
    Collins
    
		Eddie

    
    Re.557
    
    Gome off it Iain, surely you can spot one of my wind ups by now !
    After all, you've been guilty of enough of them in your day !!
    
    
    Match report:
    
    Celtic.............5    St.Johnstone..........1
    
    Coyne (pens.23 & 29)    Arkins (86)
    MacAvennie (36)
    Wdowczyk (41)
    Collins (46)
    
    
    At last, a performance that merits a match report. This was my first
    venture into Paradise this year, and Bhoy am I glad I did !
    I've been saying (to myself) for months that we were due to give
    someone a right gubbing, and last night we did just that.
    If it hadn't been for some marvellous saves from Saints keeper, Andy
    Rodes, it could easily have been double figures.
    
    As early as the 2nd minute he parried away a thundering Coyne shot from
    the edge of the box & in the next fifteen minutes pulled off saves from
    MacAvennie, Slater & Coyne again.
    
    In the 22nd minute, Coyne attempted a harmless looking cross, & that 
    daft ex-Hun Ian Reford handled it.
    Our first penalty award in months & up stepped Bomber to fire it past
    the keeper. Two minutes later the referee should have given
    another when Slater was hacked down as he bore in on goal. This time
    the refs bottle went. Fortunately, he made ammends a few minutes later
    when Slater was bowled over by, yes you guessed, that daft ex-Hun
    Redford again. Coyne put the ball in the same place as his previous
    effort, with Rodes deciding to dive the other way.
    The third goal was a peach. A marvellous 25 yard pass from Slater
    through a ruck of players, Macca controlled it & as Rodes advanced, the
    smiling one lobbed the ball over the keeper from 20 yards.
    I thought that would have been the end of it, but up popped Shuggie on
    the edge of the box & after beating one man he thumped it low past Rodes
    from 20 yards.
    
    Half-Time: 4 - 0
    
    The second half was only a minute old when St.Johnstone got into
    difficulties in the 18 yard box. They had three attempts to clear, but
    that big huddy (& ex-Hun) John McClelland boobed & passed it to Collins
    who rifled home from 18 yards. No more goals for the classy Celtic, but
    plenty of fine chances & sometimes acrobatic saves from the excellent Andy
    Rodes.
    St.Johnstone got a consolation goal near the end, and a fine one at
    that, when Vinny Arkins picked the ball up on the wing, beat two
    defenders & fired low past Bonner from 16 yards. 
    
    All in all an enjoyable night, especially as the Hunswithoothebusfare
    lost at Dens.
    Falkirk in the cup on Saturday. It should be a difficult game & here's
    hoping we can get past this one & keep our season alive.
    
    Your Roving SQF reporter
    
    Last nights team:  Bonner, McNally, Boyd, Wdowczyk, Galloway, Vata,  
                       Slater, McStay, MacAvennie, Coyne & Collins
    
                       Subs:  Grant (On for Vata) & Nicholas (On for Slater)
    
                                                             

    Rathole: is McClelland the manager of St. Johnstone now ??

    I was a bit surprised that nobody commented on Charlie's contribution
    to the game against St Johnstone considering he was on for 20 mins.
    Was he that bad that he didn't merit a mention either here or in any
    of the daily newspapers (Daily Rangers etc).
    Nice to see that Brady has finally seen the light and dropped Creany;
    a decision which is long overdue.
    
    		Eddie (Larkhall CSC).

    Eddie,
    
    Glad to see you found your way from the Notts County note 8*)
    
    Nicholas' contribution to the match on Wednesday went unoticed simply
    because Charlie's contribution...........went unoticed !!
    He made a few good passes & beat the odd man now & again, but was never
    on long enough to assert himself. He also played an attacking midfield
    role (after replacing Slater), and really didn't see a lot of the ball.
    
    Me finx the only reason he was on the bench was because the reserves
    didn't have a match on !  Come Saturday, no doubt he'll be back playing
    with the 2nd XI.
    
    What a waste of superb talent !
    
    

    It's a sad day when you all get excited after taking 2 points off a 
    mediocre team.It just goes to show what a desperate state your poor
    club is in. 

    
    Falkirk............................ 2
    Inconsistent bunch of huddies...... 0
    
    
    So the Celts season is over in February, and Liam looks like heading
    for the dole queue !
    
    

    As I stood broken hearted on Saturday at "Dumpsville" after watching
    the worst team in the world beating the once Mighty Celtic who have
    fallen on hard times lately, I heard one of my comrades say "... with
    a bit of practice we could be PURE s***e...."
    
    We can complain all we want about boards of directors and managers and
    coaches but at the end of the day Celts had no strategy, no tactics and
    too many expensive players who were not prepared to take responsibility
    for the situation. Falkirk deserved their win and despite the fact that
    a certain section of their fans persisted in lowering their standards
    to the level of the Govan bunch with dubious hiring policies by singing
    that well known brand of Sectarian songs, I wish them well in the next
    round against the huns from Edinburgh.
    
    		Roll on the close season.
    
    			Eddie (Larkhall CSC)

    ABERDEEN  1  (Pantylinen).
    CELTIC    1  (Payton).
    
    
    According to reports,Celtic showed a bit more fighting spirit after
    going a goal down and deserved a share of the points.
    
    
                                                             Al.

    
    		CELTIC	0	PARTICK	  0
    
    This has got to be the most disgraceful game of football (I use the
    term loosely) I have ever seen in my life and if this type of inept
    Celtic performance continues, then I don't see any more than 50
    thousand people attending their final 7 home games. To be fair though,
    Thistle played a brand of football normally employed by the likes of 
    Motherwell or Airdrie with a packed midfield (most of whom were inside
    the box at any one time) and one striker. Lambie said before the game
    that these would be his tactics and he got exactly what he came for, one
    point. The high wind didn't help but this cannot excuse the attitude of
    the players who did what they have done most of the time this season
    particularly at home against lesser oppostion, huffed and puffed for
    the whole 90mins. It must be hard for the players to be motivated with
    only a place in the UEFA cup a possibility; small consolation for a
    season with no domestic honours. But the fact is that the supporters
    are turning out to be entertained and instead are being delivered a
    sub-standard product, which in the long run they will not stand for.
    
    I'm not sure I know the answer to this dilemma but one thing I am sure
    about is that Celtic are missing a captain with the leadership
    qualities of Roy Aitken and although I wouldn't p**s on the man if he
    was on fire, he certainly played a big part in the relative success 
    of the eighties. I'm also becoming bored with the slow build-up from
    the back tactics that Brady has instilled on the players; other teams
    have become wise to it. Celtic's strong point has always been to
    combine skill with speed; one touch football, YES, but do it at such a
    pace that the opposition don't know where the ball is until it hits the
    back of the net. Playing across field balls just gives the other team
    time to regroup, start marking players and retreat to the penalty area.
    We also don't have anyone who can make it to the byline and put over a
    decent cross. Anton Rogan took a lot of abuse as a player but I've
    still to see anyone who could take on a defender, beat him, get to the
    byline and cross the ball back the way as well as Rogan did and still
    get back up the park to do his primary job of defending. I like Boyd
    and Dubchek (excuse the spelling, it's the schooling you know) but they
    are not pacey enough to be used in the attacking full back role that
    Celtic have always been famous for.
    
    My prediction is that Brady will get one more year, during which he
    will win nothing again and will be replaced by Tommy Burns, a man who
    knows what it is like taste glory in a Celtic jersey. There is a lot of
    troubled water to pass under the bridge before that mind you.
    
    		Yours in disillusionment,
    
    			Eddie (Larkhall CSC).      

    
    
    	Eddie,
    	What have you got against Big Roy?
    
    	Ok he wasn't the most skillful player i've ever seen(understatement),
    	but he was a true Celt and ALWAYS gave 100% for the cause.
    	I wish we had 11 players with half the passion he had for the club 
    	rather than the pretenders we have at the moment.
    
    	I agree with you that we have lacked an insperational(sp)captain
    	since Big Roy was hounded out by the so called impartial media.
    				Colm.

    
    Eddie,
    
    I beg to differ on your suggestion that Boyd isn't pacey enough.
    IMO, he's the best full-back in Scotland at present. He's one of the
    fastest, if not the fastest in the game. His crossing is exceptional &
    he's a relatively strong tackler. As for Wdowczyk (correct spelling,
    better scooling 8*)), he's a sweeper & should be used in that role
    behind Galloway or Mowbray (when fit).
    McNally should be replaced by an experienced full-back & another
    quality midfielder bought to assist Collins & Mr.70% effort himself,
    Paul McStay.
    We really have to off-load players first I know before this will
    happen, but surely we can pick up some kind of cash from the sale of
    players such as Grant, Coyne, Nicholas & Miller.
    
    I don't pretend to have all the answers to our problems, but they won't 
    go away until we make some (or any) effort to resolve some of the issues
    currently surrounding the club.
    The board have got to step down to allow an injection of cash into the
    playing side. Brady HAS to adopt different types of tactic for
    different types of game. McStay has to begin stamping his authority in
    midfield in ALL our matches & our strikers (including Slater) HAVE to
    start scoring regularly.
    
    At this moment in time, I'm merely keeping a low profile & hoping our
    problems begin to slowly disappear, but like you Eddie, I see no pot 
    of gold at the end of what's beginning to look like, a red, white & blue
    rainbow.
    
    JJ SQFCSC
    
    

    I think this game was ominous for Thistle.   After all, the season that
    Clydebank were relegated they beat (I think) both Rangers and Celtic
    on their own turf.   Partick have now taken 3/4 at Celtic Park, roll on
    Aberdeen ...
    
    Ray (PTFC aggro)

    John,
    	I see that during the boring matches we've been attending recently 
    you've taken to writing flowery prose (see end of last note); you
    definitely had better schooling than me.
    
    	I agree with some of your points but if you think Tom Boyd is the
    fastest full back in Scotland you've been going to too many snail races
    recently. You're right about the Dove; his best position is at sweeper
    as he has proved so many times.
    
    	In reply to Colm's comments two notes ago, the reason that I
    despise Aitken is because after publicly blaming McNee for hounding 
    him out of Scottish football, he acted in a completely stomach churning
    manner when he returned to St Mirren by saying that what had happened
    about a year before was "all water under the bridge" and was giving
    it the old pals routine (lots of sickening smiles etc). If he had
    simply said that he stood by his comments but was prepared to forgive
    and forget I would still have had some respect for him; as it is he can
    go .......himself. In any case, if he was such a Celtic man who always
    gave 100% for the cause, he would never have left the club a little
    over half way through the season, despite the hounding.
    
    		Your mate, Eddie

    Just heard,
    
    	Dundee	0	Celtic	1 (Payton, 47mins)

    
    
              Dundee must be devastated

    
    RE.569
    	 Eddie,
    		it's good to see that there is at least one Tim who hasn't
    been suckered into believing the p!$h written by the Scottish Press,
    about Celtic being the most "entertaining" team in the country.
    
    Take my advice.Jump on one of those many buses which leave your town
    every Saturday and head for the South side of Glasgow,where the punters
    may not be entertained in the style which you have been accustomed 
    in the last few years,but at least we see lots of goals and lots and
    lots of trophies. ;>).
     

    
    	
    	Or you could just go to any other ground in the country,
    	close your eyes and listen to the songs..............
    
    
    	it'll sound just like your in the south side of Glasgow
    	without the smell.................:-)
    

    
    Colm,
    	I didn't realise that Hampden had been completed and your mob
    had moved in already.;>)

    re.576
    
    <<Take my advice.Jump on one of those many buses which leave your town
                                               ^^^^^
     every Saturday and head for the South side of Glasgow>> 
    
    Surely you mean bandwagon Iain ?
    
    Falkirk.....0  Celtic......3
             
                   McAvennie
                   Payton, 2
    
    Not exactly sweet revenge for the cup defeat, but at least it wiped the 
    smile off the Sash singing Falkirk suporters faces !
    
    
    
    

    RE: 48.576
    
    Dear Mr Sutherland,
    			Thank you for your reply to my comments about the
    Celtic/Thistle game. I must make it clear to you that I still believe
    Celtic are the best footballing side in Scotland although it has to be
    said that this season it has been the exception rather than the rule,
    some of the best performances being against the bigger clubs. Last
    season, Celtic produced some of the best football combined with lotsa
    goals I have seen in recent years; but they won nothing says you. True,
    which is exactly my point, Brady's style quickly became very
    predictable and easy to snuff out. In fact it is almost too good for
    the Premier league when you see some of the crap teams/players in this
    dismal league set-up. Rangers were never a classy footballing side
    although I admit that Smith has tried to change that in recent years.
    The most wonderful aspect of Celtic's glory years was not just the
    results and trophies but the style with which they were won. No other
    scottish team has done this either before or since.
    
    As for joining one of the many Larky true blue buses, my principles can
    only be stretched so far.
    
    		Eddie 

    Could somebody help me out with an inquiry I have? 
    
    Rangers play in the European Super duper Champions league tonight,
    everyone knows that.
    
    Now can some well informed chappie tell me who the Tims are playing?
    
    Hibs Boys Club, or even maybe Glen buck cherry pickers, or you could
    maybe even have a good search, and play with yourselves while the big
    games on the telly.     
    

    
    Short memories reign supreme at Scumland.
    
    What about the embarrassing performances of the huns in the past two or
    three years in Europe Rab ????
    
    Like I've said already "Good luck....NOT !!!"
    
    colin.                        

    
    Celtic defeated Shelbourne 4-0 in Dublin last night.  The game was
    spoiled as a contest when Shels had keeper Jody Byrne sent off after 5
    minutes.
    
    The scorers were Payton,Boyd,Slater and Brady.  Yes Brady, he came on
    as a sub.
    
    Gary.

    
    >>> What about the embarrassing performances of the huns in the past
    two or three years in Europe <<<
    
    1990 lost to Red Star......eventual Winners.
    1991 lost to Bayern  ......beaten Semi-Finalists
    1992 lost to Sparta  ......just pipped by Barcelona(Winners) in
                               Champions League.
    
    Yeah,totally embarrassing, eh Colin???

    
    >>> What about the embarrassing performances of the huns in the past
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   
        two or three years in Europe <<<
    
    1990 lost to Red Star......eventual Winners.
         ^^^^
    1991 lost to Bayern  ......beaten Semi-Finalists
         ^^^^
    1992 lost to Sparta  ......just pipped by Barcelona(Winners) in
         ^^^^                  Champions League.
    
     Even though they were defeated, they did not go down fighting, they 
     were crap !! At least this year if they don't do it, they've 
     performed well !!!

     I can't believe I'm sticking up for the hun...

     ps. Don't see a reply to my notes in your side of the woods Iain ???
	 Or do you only reply when they get slagged.....

        The 11 Commandments......11:Thou shalt not slag the Huns !!!! 

   8*)

   colin.