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| 420.1 | | IRNBRU::HOWARD | June18-94, the Italian Job | Tue Jul 12 1994 13:54 | 17 |
| .0
Shane, you're a brave man....some good points though,...we'll never
have a chance of winning these tournaments without a consistent
goal-scorer. Aldridge could have been that man had he not been asked to
run like a madman for 90 minutes each match....4 goals in 9 WC finals
matches is a very revealing statistic....
BUT....we would not have qualified for 3 of the last 4 major
tournaments under Giles or Eoin Hand. Does the end justify the
means???? I think in Ireland's case it does, or it did. Maybe under a
new manager,(Brady?), we can make that further progression into the later
stages of tournaments....
just my opinion....
Ray....
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| 420.2 | Jack to stay | SIOG::HAUGHEY | | Wed Jul 13 1994 21:09 | 33 |
| Lets put it another way,
The only thing that England, Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland have won in
the last 25 years have been sympathy.
Why do people criticise those who do well?
Ireland is a small country with one or two brilliant world-class
footballers, and 10-15 good league players.
What Jack has done has been brilliant. He has made the Republic a
respected international football team, who have perhaps the best
international record at the present moment in time. Ireland had a
chance of doing extremely well in the World Cup but for the heat and some
bad luck. The players know that they should have done better. Yes
Jack made mistakes, but who doesn't. After all, when those players go
on to the field the manager can only watch. Mistakes are made by all.
To say that leaving out Denis Irwin was a mistake is wrong. He was
suffering in the heat, and with a dodgy knee on that hard ground the
player could have aggravated his injury even further. Anyway, Gary
Kelly played exceptionally well and proved that Jack was correct.
Anyway, To call for Jack to go is wrong. He has helped the FAI to
become very solvent, not like in the days of GILES and HAND. And with
the European Championships being held in England - England will be
there, maybe they should hold all tournaments to ensure qualification -
what other incentive does Jack need, than to bring his team over there
and stiff everyone.
Above all, the team play like a team rather than individuals, and they
play with heart.
Padraig
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| 420.3 | Give him at least 4 more years! | PAVONE::TURNER | | Wed Jul 13 1994 21:28 | 23 |
| re: .2
Wow! I actually agree with several of the sentiments you expressed (I
too thought .0 was way over the top - in fact, I found it pretty
astonishing). Unfortunately, the overall tone of your note comes over like
Ireland's answer to NEIL C. and ANDY B. Take that as you wish!
Very briefly, my gut reaction to .0 is that Jack C. has achieved one
helluva lot more with the likes of Babb, Kelly, Townsend, Coyne and
McAteer than was achieved 12-15 years back, when Ireland could boast
players of the calibre of Brady, Lawrenson, Givens, Daly and Stapleton.
In fact, I reckon you were maybe 1-2 good players away from a place in
the semi-finals.
Aaaaaand....Ireland have shrugged off (hopefully for good) the label of
"long ball specialists" that was threatening to haunt them.
Nuff said.
Dom
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| 420.4 | | MUNSBE::CHEQUER | It's the way I write um | Thu Jul 14 1994 12:28 | 19 |
| JC may have failed to win the world cup. But he has achieved more than
most. I say he's has done well, very well. He'll learn from his
experiences and probably achieve more in the future.
There are two three teams I admire at the moment, Ireland, Bulgaria and
Germany.
Ireland for putting in a real gutsy performance and even beating the
eventual finalist(possible winner).
Bulgaria for simply do so well.
Germany for accepting defeat so well. Not blaming bad ref decisions,
accepting that on the night they lost to a better team. Note, this is
the first time they will not be in the final since 1978(I think).
Mark
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| 420.5 | more input | ESSB::BREE | | Thu Jul 14 1994 15:36 | 17 |
| Shane,
As usual you're almost 100% right in what you say. There are searching
questions that need to be asked in the FAI though. If we persevere with
Jack for the European campaign we have a better than even chance of
qualifiying. If we change now we might still qualify but if we don't
heads will roll in the FAI as the OLE OLE mob, the corporate crowd and
the bread and circuses jokers in the cabinet shout foul.
If we change now we are going to have to go one better than Charlton.
Who is around? Would the FAI pay the money? At 150,000 pounds per
year they still have Charlton at a steal.
Also, we need a real striker. Is there anyone out there?
Paul
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| 420.6 | | PEKING::COSSEYN | | Thu Jul 14 1994 15:54 | 6 |
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Not only do you need a striker a couple of midfielders wouldn't go a
miss either...
Neil..
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| 420.7 | | CHEFS::HARRISR | Baby don't cry | Thu Jul 14 1994 16:29 | 6 |
| and a new goalkeeper.
(Alan Kelly ???)
Rich.
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| 420.8 | strikers | XSTACY::JDUGGAN | | Thu Jul 14 1994 16:37 | 14 |
| Paul,
I think our striker problem is a bit of a non-problem. The
main problem is our system of play which forces strikers to
be the first line of defence. They way we play, even if we
had Pele we'd still have problems scoring, he'd be so
knackered running after centre halfs that he'd never have
the energy to score.... John Alridge is a case in point, he's
one of the most prolific strikers in the game... he succeeded
in the English Premier and the Spanish first division. In those
games he could save his energy for those vital few yards in
the penalty box and do what he's best at doing....
Jim.
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| 420.9 | Stuttgart, we were there | ESSB::BREE | | Thu Jul 14 1994 17:00 | 7 |
| Neil,
Don't worry too much about it because if we qualify and if we end up in
the same group as England we'll kick their ass just like we did the
last time. Remember June 12th 1988.
Paul
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| 420.10 | sigh | TRUCKS::SANT | a legend in his own lunchtime | Thu Jul 14 1994 17:08 | 4 |
|
Oh *really* Paul.....get back into note 32 where you talk sense 8-)
Andy.
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| 420.11 | You're right Andy, sorry!! | ESSB::BREE | | Thu Jul 14 1994 17:25 | 7 |
| Sorry Andy for my rather atavistic entry but even a moderate like
myself should be indulged the odd lapse. Speaking of 32 isn't it time
we started predictions for next year?
How about a 3rd League title in a row?
Paul
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| 420.12 | | TRUCKS::SANT | a legend in his own lunchtime | Thu Jul 14 1994 18:42 | 4 |
|
Ok on all three counts, Paul ;-)
Andy.
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| 420.13 | Line the roads from Ballinasloe to Galway | PIECES::63597::oneills | Place holder for NOTES | Thu Jul 14 1994 19:54 | 35 |
| Re -.9
Paul,
And remenber who was sitting beside you in Stuttgart -:) I suppose that
qualifies me to express an opinion to the Johnny Come Latelys Ole Brigade.
Where were they when only 15,000 turned up on the terraces in the last game
of the '86 campaign? Have the cabinet nothing better to do than ponce around
on the tarmac at Dublin airport.
Anyhow, I am just challenging the notion that no-one can offer an opinion
contrary to Jack. Discussing soccer is the lifeblood of true fans...without
a good old debate where would this notes file be? As regards Jack answering
journalists, all they are is fans with typewriters who report what us the
punters want to hear. How did X play. WIll you pick Y. What did you think
of the opposition etc. If people don't want to hear this they just shouldn't
buy papers.
The notion that Jack only talks to ITV and abuses the national station (
RTE) and press is absurd in the extreme. He who pays the piper...
Bullying, belligerence and arrogance is not a common trait usually present or
respected by the Irish. Charlton's whingeing and misbehaviour in the U.S.
were a disgrace to the nation.
As regards next year...we'll CZECK your third title. And yes, Ireland we
desperately need a striker with pace but it will be a few years before your
lads are big enough!
By the way, Did Galway have a celebration for reaching the last 16 of the
ALL-Ireland Football Championship. I suppose the villages were lined from
Ballinasloe to Eyre Square.
Shane
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| 420.14 | Niall Quinn Reigns Supreme | SIOG::HAUGHEY | | Thu Jul 14 1994 20:08 | 26 |
| Is this the post-World Cup conference or what ?????
re .8
I believe that if Jack had Niall Quinn available for selecction Ireland
would have made the QF's at least. He is a valuable member of the team
because he can play football. And if it came down to an aerial
bombardment then who better. I think, and hope, that when he returns
to his club and country that he will continue where he left off. For
Ireland this will be brilliant because he will want to get to the
Europeans and show that he was badly missed by the Irish team. I don't
think that any of the defences that Ireland played against would have
coped with Niall and whoever was accompanying him in a two pronged attack.
After watching Italy last night it makes me sick that such a team,
who were very bad in their group, have advanced to the final. Granted
they have got better as they've went along, but hopefully like
Argentina in the last World Cup, they will get beaten. However Baggios
goals last night were brilliant, the mark of great striker.
But I too also ask the question, where are the next strikers going to
come from? Does anyone know of young strikers playing in England or
anywhere at all?
PH
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| 420.15 | what?? | TRUCKS::SANT | a legend in his own lunchtime | Thu Jul 14 1994 20:42 | 21 |
|
re .14..
How can you compare the current Italian campaign with that of
Argentinas in 1990?
Some of the football Italy played last night was superb. They were
magnificent when down to 10 against Norway, going for the win when
many would have settled for a point. They were rubbish against
Ireland and deserved to lose. They pulled it out of the fire
against Nigeria, the side no one wanted to meet in the knock-out
phase. Against Spain they again nicked it when they could have
settled for extra time the same way the much-lauded Swedes and
Rumanians did in their match.
Argentina in '90 were cynical, boring and played for penalty shoot-
outs all the way through the knock-out phase after cheating against
Russia to win their last game. No comparison.
Andy.
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| 420.16 | Brazil deserve the trophy already... | PAVONE::TURNER | | Thu Jul 14 1994 21:01 | 31 |
| re: .15
Can't really agree with you there, Andy. I wouldn't put them on a par
with Argentina in WC90, but comparisons aren't totally out of the
question. In fact, the media here have referred to that Argentina team
on several occasions, although the criticism is starting to dry up now
as we get near to the happy ending.
I'd grade their performances so far as follows:
Eire - abysmal
Norway - gritty and courageous; probably unfair to criticise the
quality of the football as they were down to 10 men
Mexico - mediocre
Nigeria - poor, until extra time - then good!
Spain - very good first half, but subsequently very lucky (should have been
eliminated); saying "they nicked it when they could have
settled for extra time" is a bit like saying that England nicked it
against Cameroun in WC90!
Bulgaria - excellent for the last 25 minutes of the first half - then
safe, but unspectacular
COMMENT: I don't think for one moment that Sunday's final will feature
the best two teams in the competition. Brazil are certainly worth their
place, but if Lady Luck had been in a different mood, any one of about
10 countries could have been their opponents (Spain, Holland, Belgium,
Sweden,Rumania...)
IMHO, of course ;-)
Dom
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| 420.17 | ..hold me back.. | SAVEME::DOCSPEC | | Thu Jul 14 1994 23:39 | 7 |
|
Since we're talking post-WC here, any of you guys heard anything yet
about Gullit's reasons for abandoning the Dutch team ? He was supposed
to 'reveal' his reasons after the WC (for which I would like to thank
him personally, if I had the chance }-(
Koos
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| 420.18 | italy V argentina | SIOG::HAUGHEY | | Fri Jul 15 1994 14:19 | 5 |
| re .15
When I was drwaing comparison with Italy '94 and Argentina '90 i meant
that they were two bad teams who reached the final. Their playing
styles are so different and no comparison can be made.
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| 420.19 | | IRNBRU::HOWARD | June18-94, the Italian Job | Fri Jul 15 1994 18:15 | 11 |
| Folks, I'm away to Crete for 2 weeks of....R&R. Unfortunately the
first 3 days will be alcohol-free due to my doctor prescribing a
course of anti-biotics to shake off this flu that I'm suffering at
the moment....bummer. So I'll be shouting for Italy in some Cretan
milk bar because Ireland beat them and that means that if Italy win
the World Cup then we're better....8#}
Forza Azzurri!!!!
Raimundo Howardaggio....
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| 420.20 | | ADISSW::SMYTH | | Mon Jul 18 1994 19:01 | 6 |
| re -1, your doctor must be some plonker, giving you anti-BIOTICS for
the flu, which is a virus. How much did you have to pay for that. You'd
be better off (and probably cheaper) to try and kill it off with
alcohol.
Joe.
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| 420.21 | Stadiums go back to turf or stick with sod? | DELNI::GILBERT | | Mon Jul 18 1994 20:31 | 12 |
|
Does anyone know if they'll be keeping the grass in the stadiums that
they sodded for the world cup (namely the Meadowlands)? I assume the
Dome in Minnesota will go back to Turf, but I was kind of hoping the
Giants would be able to play on grass. Also, if there really will be
an American Futbol League starting in 1995, I think they'll need
grass... Of course, many U.S. University Soccer teams play on turf,
including my Alma Mater.
Any comments?
Mike
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| 420.22 | | XAPPL::HINXMAN | Be not too hard | Mon Jul 18 1994 20:53 | 8 |
| re .21
> Does anyone know if they'll be keeping the grass in the stadiums that
> they sodded for the world cup (namely the Meadowlands)?
I think you missed the news item that said this is being sold off.
Tony
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| 420.23 | Soil I want | MUGGER::NORTH | | Tue Jul 19 1994 17:40 | 2 |
| My paper says that the grass is Bermuda grass and will be dead by
November, so they are buying the earth!
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| 420.24 | | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | | Tue Jul 19 1994 17:44 | 7 |
|
...and what was the sign up in one of the purchaser's garden....
Something like 'Baggio ran, fell, .......even spit on this piece of
sod'
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| 420.25 | No more shoot outs? | BOSEPM::BOSEPM::CAMPKIN | The Landlord is back! | Tue Jul 19 1994 18:09 | 59 |
| Reuter report
FIFA LOOKING FOR WAY OUT OF PENALTY SHOOT-OUTS
PASADENA, July 18 (Reuter) - A sudden-death "golden goal" could decide an
unresolved match in the 1998 World Cup.
But FIFA will also consider other ways of avoiding a repeat of the penalty
shoot-out which decided Sunday's final, FIFA general secretary Sepp Blatter
said on Monday.
"The problem is we can't play indefinitely, so perhaps a solution could be to
add 10 more minutes (after extra-time)," he said the day after Brazil beat
Italy 3-2 on penalties after regulation and extra time -- 120 minutes of
soccer in stifling heat -- had failed to produce a goal.
Blatter said for the 1998 World Cup in France a system of sudden-death would
be introduced in extra time, with a goal -- the "golden goal" -- ending the
match and deciding the winner.
But if no goals were scored in extra time, the game would still have to be
decided by a penalty shoot-out.
He said FIFA, soccer's world governing body, would consider further
possibilities but he personally would prefer not to extend the game beyond
120 minutes, particularly in conditions like those which prevailed for USA
'94.
"Yesterday it would not have been possible to add more time because, in these
conditions, playing for more than two hours would affect the health of the
players," he said.
If no goal fell in extra time, teams should accept the penalty shoot-out,
Blatter added.
"We were not happy yesterday...but we had to have a winner and you can't
repeat the match."
Choosing the winner on the strength of corners won or fewer bookings would
also be unsatisfactory, he said.
FIFA has already introduced "sudden-death" in youth competition. It is used
in Japan and the European Football Union (UEFA) will operate it at the 1996
European championship in England.
FIFA would also study further future options, consulting players, coaches and
the media, Blatter said.
"At the moment we can offer nothing better," he said, looking back sadly on
Sunday's penalty shoot-out which resolved the World Cup final between Brazil
and Italy, though he would rather have had the sudden-death option.
"We expected these two brilliant teams would give us a brilliant performance.
They gave it, but only in extra time and in the penalty shoot-out," Blatter
said.
"For drama for television it (the penalty shoot-out) was the absolute
highlight but it was not what we in football expected from the final."
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| 420.26 | Betting results! | BOSEPM::BOSEPM::CAMPKIN | The Landlord is back! | Tue Jul 19 1994 18:14 | 22 |
| Reuter Report
BRITISH SOCCER FANS TOAST BIG WORLD CUP WINNINGS
LONDON, July 18 (Reuter) - Two British soccer fans celebrated bumper winnings
of more than 390,000 pounds ($610,000) and 100,000 pounds ($156,400) on
Monday after betting that Brazil would win the World Cup.
For flower-importer Adrian Fitzpatrick, Brazil's victory crowned a three-part
rolling bet on the British premier league, the first division and the World
Cup that brought a 331,500 pound ($518,400) payout on an 8,000 pound
($12,510) stake.
A further bet that Brazil would play Italy in Sunday's championship final
boosted his earnings by another 60,000 pounds ($93,830) for a bet of 5,000
pounds ($7,820), said a spokesman for the betting chain William Hill.
Another fan, Harold Anand scooped 106,000 pounds ($165,800) from Brazil's
triumph in a dramatic penalty shootout, but he would been richer to the tune
of around 18,000 pounds if Italy had emerged victorious, having put 400 pound
($626) accumulated bets on both teams last August.
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| 420.27 | The future in the U.S. | BOSEPM::BOSEPM::CAMPKIN | The Landlord is back! | Tue Jul 19 1994 18:16 | 64 |
| AMERICANS LAUNCH 10-YEAR PLAN FOR U.S. SOCCER
PASADENA, July 18 (Reuter) - American soccer chief Alan Rothenberg said on
Monday he planned to bring the sport up to the same level as American
football, basketball and baseball in the U.S. within the next decade.
Rothenberg told a news conference the month-long World Cup which finished on
Sunday had proved a much bigger success than anyone had expected and had
provided the platform for a professional league which is planned to start
next April.
Rothenberg, head of the U.S. World Cup organising comittee, the American
soccer federation and the professional league, Major League Soccer, said most
of the U.S. World Cup players would join the new 12-team grouping next year.
"Everything we do is long-term," he said. "We expect 12,000 to 13,000 average
crowds at the start and we will build slowly from that.
"We're not expecting overnight success. It could take 10 years to move our
sport to the level of the big ones -- football, baseball and basketball.
"The last 31 days have been dream-like. But we're realists. We realise that
the path ahead won't be the instant success it appeared in these 31 days."
Rothenberg said the U.S. team had also gained in respect and had been invited
to play at the Maracana stadium in Rio against world champions Brazil and
against England at soccer temple Wembley.
"Before we would have had to beg and probably pay them to play us," he said.
"Now we're getting that kind of offer."
Rothenberg said television ratings for the World Cup in the United States had
been surprisingly high and that an opinion poll by a television network
released on Sunday showed six in 10 Americans wanted a professional soccer
league.
The U.S. soccer chief also announced a four-year sponsorship deal with a
fitness and footwear company that would cover American national team squads.
Sunday's final at the Pasadena Rose Bowl, attended by a record crowd of
94,194, had netted around $43.5 million, he said, a record for any single
sporting event.
Crowds at the 52-game tournament topped 3.5 million, more than a million more
than at the previous best in Italy four years ago, with the average figure at
70,700.
Applauding the warmth of the fans and the trouble-free atmosphere, Rothenberg
said: "What we had was a gigantic love- in.
"People had a wonderful time together, enjoying each others' company. That's
what's going to stay in my memory. It was a great thing for the U.S. and the
world."
FIFA general secretary Sepp Blatter said the finals could return to the
United States at any time after the next tournament in France in 1998,
although he indicated it might not happen in the near future.
He said Asia was likely to get the 2002 finals, for which Japan and South
Korea are bidding, and Germany had expressed an interest in 2006.
Blatter said he had spoken to South African representatives on Sunday about
staging the finals for the first time in Africa in 2006 or later.
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| 420.28 | | BOSEPM::BOSEPM::CAMPKIN | The Landlord is back! | Tue Jul 19 1994 18:17 | 128 |
| WORLD CUP PRAISED AS BEST IN YEARS
DALLAS, July 18 (Reuter) - The public turned out in droves, the hooligans
stayed at home and the United States confounded the critics by staging a
World Cup brimming over with excitement.
The month-long soccer extravaganza proved, if nothing else, that in America
Joe Public always loves a major event for the sheer spectacle regardless of
whether or not he understands what is going on.
A pre-tournament poll suggested a mere 25 percent of Americans knew the World
Cup was about soccer and only one in five knew the United States were hosts.
Yet more than 3.5 million people attended the 52 matches, making it the
best-attended Cup yet.
Despite the sensational doping scandal surrounding Argentina's Diego
Maradona, the shocking murder of a player in Colombia and the lack of a World
Cup atmosphere in much of America, the tournament was a triumph.
The only real let down was that, after a month of entertaining soccer, the
title was decided on a penalty shoot-out following a frustrating match.
Brazil won 3-2 after Italy's Roberto Baggio missed his spot kick.
Pele, one of soccer's rare household names in the United States, had already
hailed it all as a runaway success even if much of the country was more
concerned about the murder hearing of American football legend O.J. Simpson.
"A lot of newspapers criticised me in Brazil because I wanted to see the
World Cup here, and I feel great," said the man who helped Brazil win their
three other titles. "I think this is the best World Cup I have seen in 35
years."
Many critics had said hosting the sport's showpiece in the United States, a
country with no great soccer tradition, could only mean a colourless event
devoid of fans and atmosphere.
For the most part, they were proved wrong.
The Brazilian media, used to interviewing players on the pitch if they have
to, provided plenty of colourful language in exchanging punches and kicks
with security officers determined to keep them away from the stars.
The Bulgarians won few fans early on by barring the media from training but,
recast in the role of underdogs, became popular favourites after beating
champions Germany.
Cameroon feuded over money, Saudi Arabia impressed on their debut, a match
was played indoors for the first time and German midfielder Stefan Effenberg
was kicked out of the team for making an obscene gesture to taunting fans.
Most important of all to local fans, the United States won through to the
second round against all odds.
Officials said even the stifling heat in many of the nine venues, with
temperatures sometimes up to 100 degrees Fahrenheit (34 Celsius) during
matches, failed to be as big a problem as many coaches and players feared.
If some fans thought a header was the foam on a cold mug of beer or FIFA a
late-night country and western radio station from Oklahoma, they still turned
out in force.
Tickets for clashes such as Ireland against Italy at Giants Stadium near New
York were almost priceless.
"The number of spectators has been truly fantastic and it has been a
well-organised and well-presented World Cup," said FIFA president Joao
Havelange last week.
"We have had very good football, an increase in the number of goals since the
Italy finals and discipline on the pitch has been very good. It has been very
positive."
Despite violence in countries where soccer again proved literally a matter of
life and death, 1994 may well be remembered as the friendly World Cup.
The images of Italia '90, with drunken thugs throwing bricks and clashing
with baton-charging police, or of the troubled 1992 European championship in
Sweden gave way to a vision of soccer as a family affair.
Organisers said there was less trouble at the stadiums than during regular
American sporting events despite the lack of segregation for fans from rival
countries and the availability of beer during matches.
Controversial fences erected in Dallas and Washington were scorned by FIFA as
a waste of taxpayers' money.
The only violent incidents reported inside the United States were in Los
Angeles where Mexican fans threw stones and bottles at police after partying
for hours on end.
Abroad it was another matter, with the murder of Colombian defender Andres
Escobar throwing a long shadow over a tournament shocked by the senseless
killing.
Escobar, a stalwart in a Colombian team already rocked by death threats
before their key first round match with the United States, was gunned down in
Medellin in apparent retaliation for conceding an own goal.
FIFA, players and fans united to condemn the killing.
That murder and the stories of soccer madness from far-flung countries where
wives killed obsessive husbands or husbands gambled away their wives on World
Cup bets, may have confirmed many Americans' suspicions.
"Sorry, World Cup. By my provincial American standards, soccer is still
boring," declared a columnist in the Dallas Morning News.
"I was not swept up in the conflagration of excitement that has swept the
United States over the world's biggest soccer tournament. That's because
there wasn't a conflagration of excitement."
Financially few could complain about the Cup.
"The World Cup was a major success for us," said Dallas mayor Steve Bartlett,
whose city expected to see a benefit of around $50 million pumped into the
city's economy.
World Cup organisers expect to leave a legacy of around $20 million for a
U.S. soccer foundation in a country where Major League Soccer is to start up
next year.
But Pele saidi soccer was unlikely to be able to compete with traditional
American sports.
"As a pastime, soccer is a reality already, but to talk about business is a
different problem," he said.
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| 420.29 | The World Cup Facts & Stats. | ESSB::MCUNNIFFE | I'm the new Romario | Wed Jul 20 1994 22:53 | 372 |
|
World Cup USA 1994
==================
The World Cup USA 1994 played between the dates June 17th and ending on July
17th.
Where they will Play.
Giants Stadium, New York 76,891
The Citrus Bowl, Orlando 70,188
Foxboro stadium, Boston 61,000
Soldier Field, Chicago 66,814
Pontiac Silverdome, Detroit 76,000
The Rose Bowl, Los Angeles 102,083
Stanford Stadium, San Francisco 86,019
RFK Stadium, Washington DC 56,000
The Cotton Bowl, Dallas 67,600
Group A Group B Group C Group D Group E Group F
USA CAMEROUN GERMANY ARGENTINA IRELAND BELGIUM
COLOMBIA SWEDEN BOLIVIA GREECE ITALY MOROCCO
SWITZERLAND BRAZIL SPAIN NIGERIA NORWAY HOLLAND
RUMANIA RUSSIA SOUTH KOREA BULGARIA MEXICO SAUDI ARABIA
The first two teams will automatically come out of each group with the four best
third placed teams also making the last sixteen.
Group A
June 18 USA 1 SWITZERLAND 1 16.30 DETROIT
Wynalda Bregy 77,557
June 18 COLOMBIA 1 RUMANIA 3 00.30 LOS ANGELES
Valencia Radacaiou 2 91,856
Hagi 1
June 22 RUMANIA 1 SWITZERLAND 4 21.00 DETROIT
Hagi Knup 1 61,534
Chapuisat 1
Suter 1
Bregy 1
June 22 USA 2 COLOMBIA 1 00.30 LOS ANGELES
Escobar (og) Valencia 93,194
Stewart
June 26 USA 0 ROMANIA 1 21.00 LOS ANGELES
Petrescu 93,869
June 26 SWLAND 0 COLOMBIA 2 21.00 SAN FRANCISCO
Gaviria 83,769
Lozano
FINAL STANDINGS
P W D L F A PTS
Romania A1 3 2 0 1 5 5 6
Switzerland A2 3 1 1 1 5 4 4
USA A3 3 1 1 1 3 3 4
Colombia A4 3 1 0 2 4 5 3
Group B
JUNE 19 SWEDEN 2 CAMEROUN 2 00.30 LOS ANGELES
Dahlin Oman-Biyak 83,959
Ljung Embe
JUNE 20 BRAZIL 2 RUSSIA 0 21.00 SAN FRANCISCO
Romario 81,000
Rai (Pen)
JUNE 24 BRAZIL 3 CAMEROUN 0 21.00 SAN FRANCISCO
Romario 83,401
Santos
Babeto
JUN2 24 RUSSIA 1 SWEDEN 3 00.30 DETROIT
Salenko Brolin (38 pen) 71,528
(4 pen) Dahlin (60,82)
JUNE 28 RUSSIA 6 CAMEROUN 1 21.00 SAN FRANCISCO
Salenko 5 Milla 74,914
Radchenko
JUNE 28 BRAZIL 1 SWEDEN 1 21.00 DETROIT
Romario Andersson 77,217
FINAL POSITIONS
P W D L F A PTS
Brazil B1 3 2 1 0 6 1 7
Sweden B2 3 1 2 0 6 4 5
Russia B3 3 1 0 2 7 6 3
Cameroon B4 3 0 1 2 3 11 1
Group C
JUNE 17 GERMANY 1 BOLIVIA 0 20.00 CHICAGO
Klinnsman (Etcheverry sent off) 63,117
JUNE 17 SPAIN 2 SOUTH KOREA 2 00.30 DALLAS
Salinas Myong-Bo 56,247
Goikoetxea Jung-Won
JUNE 21 GERMANY 1 SPAIN 1 21.00 CHICAGO
Klinnsman Goikoetxea 63,113
JUNE 23 STH KOR 0 BOLIVIA 0 00.30 BOSTON
53,000
JUNE 27 BOLIVIA 1 SPAIN 3 21.00 CHICAGO
Sanchez Guardiola 63,089
Caminero 2
JUNE 27 GERMANY 3 SOUTH KOREA 2 21.00 DALLAS
Klinnsman 2 Sun-Hong 63,998
Riedle Myong-Bo
FINAL POSITIONS
P W D L F A PTS
Germany C1 3 2 1 0 5 3 7
Spain C2 3 1 2 0 6 4 5
S Korea C3 3 0 2 1 4 5 2
Bolivia C4 3 0 1 2 1 4 1
Group D
JUNE 21 ARGENTINA 4 GREECE 0 17.30 BOSTON
Batistuta 3 53,664
Maradona
JUNE 21 NIGERIA 3 BULGARIA 00.30 DALLAS
Yekini 44,132
Amokacchie
Amunike
JUNE 25 ARGENTINA 2 NIGERIA 1 21.00 BOSTON
Caniggia Siasia 54,453
JUNE 26 BULGARIA 4 GREECE 0 17.30 CHICAGO
Stoichkov 2 63,160
Letchkov
Borimirov
JUNE 30 GREECE 0 NIGERIA 2 00.30 BOSTON
George 53,001
Amokachie
JUNE 30 ARGENTINA 0 BULGARIA 2 00.30 DALLAS
Stoichkov 63,998
Sirakov
FINAL POSITIONS
P W D L F A PTS
Bulgaria D1 3 2 0 1 6 2 6
Argentina D2 3 2 0 1 6 3 6
Nigeria D3 3 2 0 1 6 3 6
Greece D4 3 0 0 3 0 10 0
Group E
JUNE 18 ITALY 0 REP OF IRELAND 1 21.00 NEW JERSEY
Houghton (12 mins) 73,511
JUNE 19 NORWAY 1 MEXICO 0 21.00 WASHINGTON
Rekdal 52,359
JUNE 23 ITALY 1 NORWAY 21.00 NEW JERSEY
D. Baggio 74,624
JUNE 24 MEXICO 2 REP OF IRELAND 1 17.30 ORLANDO
Garcia Aldridge (84 mins) 61,000
JUNE 28 ITALY 1 MEXICO 1 17.30 WASHINGTON
Massaro Bernal 53,186
JUNE 28 NORWAY 0 REP OF IRELAND 0 17.30 NEW JERSEY
76,322
FINAL POSITIONS
P W D L F A PTS
Mexico E1 3 1 1 1 3 3 4
Rep of Ireland E2 3 1 1 1 2 2 4
Italy E3 3 1 1 1 2 2 4
Norway E4 3 1 1 1 1 1 4
Group F
JUNE 19 BELGIUM 1 MOROCCO 0 17.30 ORLANDO
DeGrysse 60,790
JUNE 20 HOLLAND 2 S ARABIA 1 00.30 WASHINGTON
Jonk Amin 52,539
Taument
JUNE 25 S ARABIA 2 MOROCCO 1 17.30 NEW YORK
Al-Jaber Chaouch 72,404
Amin
JUNE 25 BELGIUM 1 HOLLAND 0 17.30 ORLANDO
Albert 61,219
JUNE 29 BELGIUM 0 S ARABIA 1 17.30 WASHINGTON
Owairan 52,959
JUNE 29 MOROCCO 1 HOLLAND 2 17.30 ORLANDO
Nader Berkhamp 60,578
Roy
FINAL POSITIONS
P W D L F A PTS
Holland F1 3 2 0 1 4 3 6
S Arabia F2 3 2 0 1 4 3 6
Belgium F3 3 2 0 1 2 1 6
Morocco F4 3 0 0 3 2 5 0
Second Round
Spain 3 Switzerland 0 Washington
Hierro 53,141
Enrique
Beguiristian
Germany 3 Belgium 2 Chicago
Voeller 2 Grun 60,246
Klinnsman Albert
Romania 3 Argentina 2 Los Angeles
Dumitrescu 2 Batistuta 90,469
Hagi Balbo
Sweden 3 S Arabia 1 Dallas
K Andersson 2 al-Ghashayan 60,277
Dahlin
Holland 2 Rep of Ireland 0 Orlando
Berkhamp 61,355
Jonk
Brazil 1 USA 0 San Francisco
Bebeto 84,147
Italy 2 Nigeria 1 Boston
R Baggio 2 Amunike 54,367
Bulgaria 1 Mexico 1 New York
Stoichkov Garcia 71,030
(AET, Bulgaria win 3-1 on pens)
Quarter Finals
Italy 2 Spain 1 Boston
D Baggio Caminero 53,644
R Baggio
Brazil 3 Holland 2 Dallas
Romario Berkhamp 63,998
Bebeto Winter
Branco
Bulgaria 2 Germay 1 New York
Stoichkov Matthaeus 72,416
Letchkov
Sweden 2 Romania 2 San Francisco
Brolin Raducioiu 2 81,715
K Andersson
(AET, Sweden win 5-4 on pens)
Semi-Finals
Italy 2 Bulgaria 1 New York
R Baggio 2 Stoichkov 77,094
Brazil 1 Sweden 0 Los Angeles
Romario 84,569
Third Place Play-Off
Sweden 4 Bulgaria 0 Los Angeles
Brolin 83,716
Mild
Larsson
K Andersson
World Cup Final
===============
Brazil 0 Italy 0 Los Angeles
17/7/94
(AET, Brazil win 3-2 on pens) 94,194
Statistics
Bookings.
Group Matches....................149
Last 16...........................46
Quarter-Finals....................18
Semi-Finals........................8
Final..............................4
Total............................225
Sendings Off.
Group Matches......................8
Last sixteen.......................5
Quarter-Finals.....................1
Semi-Finals........................1
Total.............................15
Attendances.
Group Matches..............2,420,411
Last sixteen.................535,032
Quarter-Finals...............271,773
Semi-Finals..................161,663
Total......................3,388,879
Average.......................67,777
Leading Scorers.
6 - Salenko, Stoichkov
5 - Romario, Baggio, Klinnsman
4 - Batistuta, Raducioiu, Dahlin
3 - Bebeto, Berkhamp, Hagi, Caminero, K Andersson, Brolin
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| 420.30 | romario? who he? | COMICS::HAWLEYI | Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy! | Thu Jul 21 1994 16:37 | 15 |
| <<< Note 420.29 by ESSB::MCUNNIFFE "I'm the new Romario" >>>
-< The World Cup Facts & Stats. >-
>> "I'm the new Romario"
Romario missed quite a few total sitters.
(in fact, considering all the chances he and bebeto had to score, i
thought their finishing in general was very poor).
Surely the Clonberne Dynamo ;-) would rather be associated with the likes
of Ray Houghton perhaps?
Ian.
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| 420.32 | Meola signs with NFL NY Jets | EVTDD1::LAFONTAINE | A flame about this high | Fri Jul 22 1994 14:15 | 6 |
| Tony Moeola , keeper of team USA has signed with the 'American Football'
New York Jets, for about $100,000/year
Does anybody know if he'll be playing at kicker or punter
Eric
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| 420.33 | Kicker I believe | RTOEU::RDELANEY | A knob of butter..... | Fri Jul 22 1994 16:22 | 1 |
|
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| 420.34 | N Y Jests | PAKORA::DWALLACE | Nurses ? I love 'em | Fri Jul 22 1994 19:48 | 5 |
| I doubt if he's going to be a kicker - it's a totally different skill.
A punter however relies on a strong legg & ball hang time :^) something
a goalie would take to.
Davie.
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| 420.35 | TONY!...don't forget to tackle with your ARMS! | NYEM1::MICEK | number 2 | Sat Jul 23 1994 01:42 | 17 |
| re.-1
Actually, Meola has been signed by the Jets exclusively as a kicker. The
club was interested in him because of the similarities between a soccer goal
kick, and a football kickoff. Meola can strike a ball over 60 yards,
and with a great deal of height on goal kicks. The Jets want him to
do the same with a football.
The Jets also are impressed with certain intangibles that are rare with
kickers: he's athletic, has competed at the highest level in sport (i.e.
World Cup), has leadership qualities, and most importantly, has some
noteriety, which may help the club bring in some extra $$$ ;)
I don't think he will be a punter, but I do agree that the skills are
similiar...
Marc
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| 420.36 | All bets taken | KIRKTN::DWALLACE | Nurses ? I love 'em | Sat Jul 23 1994 15:28 | 8 |
| The Jets had a rookie kicker last year, Cary Blanchard - did he do so
bad a job they're willing to try out this girlie haircutted baboon ?
A goalie doesn't require pinpoint accuracy in a swirling wind with an
oval ball on the ground which has to climb 15 - 20 feet in the first 3
feet. VERY different skill.
I bet he won't make it.
Davie.
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| 420.37 | | BHAJI::SNEIL | FOLLOW WE WILL | Sat Jul 23 1994 16:32 | 15 |
|
Always the optimist Davie.
SCott
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| 420.38 | | CHEFS::HARRISR | | Mon Jul 25 1994 18:06 | 8 |
| What a great advertisement for "soccer" in the U.S. when the team
goalie goes off and decides to play American football. (Why is it
called football when the foot is probably the least used part of the
body in the game (apart from the brain that is !)?)
Kind of a Judas character.
Rich.
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| 420.39 | His name was..?? | STOWOA::JANCSY | | Tue Jul 26 1994 18:21 | 9 |
| One individual -- albeit a high profile one -- does not make the
"advertisement" for U.S. soccer.
There have been news reports of U.S. National team players negotiating
post(sigh!) World Cup contracts. It is that image, and the excitement
of the pro league starting next year, which we believe are signs of a
bright future.
Tony Meola -- who's he? ;^)
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| 420.40 | Dual sport athlete: football and football | PCOJCT::MICEK | number 2 | Wed Jul 27 1994 00:16 | 14 |
| Let us not forget that Tony Meola's soccer career is not over. Playing
as a kicker in American football is hardly physically demanding. There is
nothing stopping him from kicking for the NY Jets and "minding the net"
for the US National Team at the same time. He earns an income from both
of these teams, and jumps into the new US professional soccer league when
it begins.
A two sport athlete is quite an advertisement for US soccer. We need
to keep players like Meola in the states for the league to survive, and
it will only help us if he gains additional exposure in our NFL!
IMHO, for a 25 year-old, he's got his career well into perspective.
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| 420.41 | Egil "Silly" Olsen's new career as cheerleader | STKOFF::SPERSSON | Pas de probleme | Wed Jul 27 1994 12:06 | 10 |
|
Not only does Anabolic Football not require any talent whatsoever. You
also need to be a total idiot to play it.
Watch out for the entire Norwegian World Cup squad to sign for NFL
clubs.
cheers,
Stefan
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| 420.43 | Meola = a poor man's Deion Sanders ? | EVTDD1::LAFONTAINE | A flame about this high | Wed Jul 27 1994 12:21 | 22 |
| re -2
>> Let us not forget that Tony Meola's soccer career is not over. Playing
>> as a kicker in American football is hardly physically demanding.
No, but playing for a 4-12 team and getting your @$$ kicked by the
likes of Indianapolis or tampa Bay can be pretty tough mentally 8-)
re -1
>> You also need to be a total idiot to play it.
Now, that wasn't too nice, was it ?
>> Watch out for the entire Norwegian World Cup squad to sign for NFL clubs.
They can probably make a team of their own: the Norway Vikings, or
something...
Eric
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| 420.44 | Gullit's reasons..... | UTROP1::HANSSEN_J | are you serious ? | Thu Jul 28 1994 13:36 | 17 |
| This answer took a long time but finally Ruud Gullit said why he had
left the dutch team before the tournament. He didn't agree with the way
the dutch were going to play ; they were to offensive and that was no
good regarding the (weather) conditions in the States. He had
repeatedly notified the coach about this. Against Hungary the defensive
concept was tested but after 20 minutes they played the old offensive
game again. Great for dutch conditions, but it proofed bad in
'tropical' conditions.
Why he waited untill now ? Because if he would have said it then there
would be laughs about him. He hates that in the end he was right. The
dutch defense appeared to weak.....
Personally I think that with Gullit the chances of the dutch surely
would have been better. But I don't agree with him ; not believing in
the way you have to play is not the reason to quit !
John
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| 420.45 | | BERN01::GOODEJ | Mr Dragon | Thu Jul 28 1994 15:23 | 8 |
|
Holland attacked too much so he didn't want to play? Do Arsenal
know about this? He sounds ideal for them! 8-)
The best thing you could do with Gullit is
have him gulliteened!
JBG 8-)
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| 420.46 | Low credibility | STKOFF::SPERSSON | Pas de probleme | Thu Jul 28 1994 16:36 | 10 |
|
One of the best attackers in the world thinks this team attacks too
much? A poor excuse indeed. With Gullit in the team these tactics might
have worked.
Now speculations will really start as for the real reason :-)
cheers,
Stefan
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| 420.47 | Milan attacks much too.... | UTROP1::HANSSEN_J | are you serious ? | Thu Jul 28 1994 18:42 | 5 |
| re -2...I wish he got really
Gullituned ! ;-)
John
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| 420.48 | What's going on here.... | UTROP1::HANSSEN_J | are you serious ? | Fri Jul 29 1994 12:59 | 5 |
| Reaction of Advocaat on Gullit's comments ;
Why didn't he say that to me before he left..........
John
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| 420.49 | | SUBURB::ABSOLOMT | Let them eat fish | Fri Jul 29 1994 15:01 | 10 |
|
Basically because Gullit is full of shit & waited until the World Cup
had unfolded before he concocted his grissly, wimpy excuse.
The basic truth is Gullit is a "I'm not playing unless blah blah, I'm
taking my ball home boo hoo" merchant.
Tony
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| 420.50 | Gullit. | PAKORA::DROONEY | Lifes a beach | Fri Jul 29 1994 15:45 | 10 |
|
I`ve a lot of respect for Gullit as a player but anyone who gives
up the chance to play in possibly his last World Cup because of
his pride is an a**e.
The Manager decides how the team should play not the players,Gullit
should be proud to get the chance to represent his country irrespective
of the way they play.
Davie
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| 420.51 | Sorry Ruud, it doesn't wash... | PAVONE::TURNER | | Fri Jul 29 1994 16:18 | 36 |
| re: .50
Dead on. I think Gullit's squeaky clean image (which has never
convinced me 100%) is going to come out of this one pretty badly.
If every player who disagreed with his manager's tactics had decided to
do a runner, this World Cup would have turned overnight into a 5-a-side
competition. Brazil and Italy both reached the final with players who
weren't totally enamoured of their managers' strategy.
What's more, I recall Gullit complaining (somewhat cryptically) that he
felt alone in the Dutch team, i.e. no one had taken his side in The
Issue. Walking out on a team because yours happens to be the minority
view is the stuff of primadonnas. In fact, I find it so selfish as to
be almost unbelievable; I'd hate to think that Gullit wanted to rest
his limbs for the coming season at Milan, where he'll doubtless see out
his career with one of the fattest contracts ever known to man.
Sure, people will say that the World Cup is *the* arena for a pro
footballer, but plenty of players have skipped World Cups in the past,
or abbandoned the international scene in favour of club football (which
just happens to be rather more lucrative). Messrs. Rijkaard, Voeller,
Baresi, Schuster and Waddle all spring to mind as players who have
decided (and subsequently reconsidered) that they could do without
international football thank you very much. A comparison can be drawn
with the Davis Cup, which should be the World Cup of tennis, but rarely
seems to feature the top players from each country (who are busy
rolling in the $ on the tournament circuit).
Fact is, Gullit lost out on 2 counts:
- Morally; his image has taken a battering
- Technically; Holland got to the quarter finals without him, and gave
the eventual winners probably their best game before bowing out
Verdict: guilty.
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| 420.52 | Let's not overlook their greatest achievement ! | BERN01::BOLGER | Jerry Bolger. | Fri Jul 29 1994 16:35 | 15 |
| Dom,
Re:
> - Technically; Holland got to the quarter finals without him, and gave
> the eventual winners probably their best game before bowing out
You forgot to mention their greatest achievement. They also defeated
Ireland (albeit by the skin of their collective teeth), the only team to
beat the Italians in 90 minutes.
Jerry.
;-)))
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| 420.53 | Addendum to .50 | PAVONE::TURNER | | Fri Jul 29 1994 16:45 | 12 |
| Jerry,
Since we're on the subject, I neglected to mention in my original post
that one of the first players to skip a World Cup for "personal
reasons" was England's Paul Madeley in 1970.
And I'm sure all Scottish and Irish noters are well aware that Madeley
was foregoing the opportunity to represent the world champions of the
time (England having won the 1966 edition 4-2 against West Germany
a.e.t. [Hurst 3, Peters] at Wembley).
Dom
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| 420.54 | | BERN01::GOODEJ | Mr Dragon | Fri Jul 29 1994 16:53 | 8 |
|
Re -.1
Paul Madeley..... I went to school with him. In 1970 he would have
been, let me see now, about 7...... probably why he declined to play
for England in the World Cup! 8-)
JBG
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| 420.55 | How many Paul Madeleys are there? | PAVONE::TURNER | | Fri Jul 29 1994 17:03 | 10 |
|
>Paul Madeley..... I went to school with him. In 1970 he would have
>been, let me see now, about 7...... probably why he declined to play
>for England in the World Cup! 8-)
...which would have made him a bouncing 5-year old in 1968 when he won
the League Championship with Leeds! *I* was 9 in 1970 and I can assure
was a good deal younger than Paul Madeley (and still am!).
Dom
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| 420.56 | Johann Cruijff absence in 1978 | LUCCIO::ALTOBRANDO | | Fri Jul 29 1994 17:35 | 4 |
| I remember that in 1978 Johann Cruijff decided to "jump" the world cup
in Argentina (another great dutch player).
Is there someone that remembers why ?
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| 420.57 | Let's see you wiggle your way out of this one ! | BERN01::BOLGER | Weather's here,wish U were beautiful | Fri Jul 29 1994 17:37 | 33 |
| Dom,
As every well-informed football-literate reasonably intelligent person
knows, England were damn lucky to win in 1966. It was a complete
travesty and only made possible by the blatant poaching of players from
other country's national squads. Indeed, you yourself named two good
examples in .53. Both Hurst and Peters should have been playing for
Ireland at the time due to indisputable Irish connections which were
sadly overlooked at the time.
Mr. Hurst, was practically raised by a young Irish girl by the name of
Mary O'Hegarty. (Well, she only babysat twice, but she nonetheless had a
very strong influence on him in the short time they spent together (even
though he was sleeping)).
As for Mr. Peters. At the tender age of three he developed a taste for
Shamrock which grew wild near his home, and tasted much better than the
baby food which his mother made him eat. Later, just before his fifth
birthday, his dad took him down the boozer while his mother was at the
hairdressers. The young lad grew restless sitting down, and started to
explore the pub. Unintentionally he left his skateboard in the middle
of the floor, where an elderly gentleman stood on sending his pint
flying across the crowded room. Miraculously, the dark liquid
(Guinness), sailed over the heads of the assembled customers, without a
drop spilling on any of them, and landed in a corner where the young
Peters was playing quitely with his lego. This was obviously a sign
from above that the young lad had been ordained to play for Ireland
Proof, if proof was needed, that Ireland should in fact have been
crowned World Champions in England's place in 1966.
Jerry.
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| 420.58 | Where does he get it from? | PAVONE::TURNER | | Fri Jul 29 1994 17:43 | 8 |
|
> -< Let's see you wiggle your way out of this one ! >-
Jerry,
You'll have to give me the weekend to think it over!
Dom
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| 420.59 | | BERN01::BOLGER | Weather's here,wish U were beautiful | Fri Jul 29 1994 17:56 | 14 |
| Dom,
I see you've taken to quoting English players now.
>> You'll have to give me the weekend to think it over!
That's exactly what Gazza said back in June when he was asked what he
thought of England's chances of winning this year's WC.
On the Monday, he came back and said "Duuuh, what was the question
again ?"
Jerry. ;-)
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| 420.60 | What's he on ? | XSTACY::PHAYDEN | | Fri Jul 29 1994 18:53 | 9 |
| Jerry,
Have you tripped once too often or something ?
That brain of yours must have really fried in the Seventies.
The man's a nutter,
Peter.
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| 420.61 | The heat isn't helping either ! | BERN01::BOLGER | Weather's here,wish U were beautiful | Fri Jul 29 1994 18:58 | 16 |
| Peter,
Re: Have you tripped once too often or something ?
Well, last year I used to fly home fairly regularly but this year I've
only been home once since Christmas. Why, does flying cause brain
damage ? (:-:)
In fairness, though, I don't think I can blame Aer Lingus for my
condition. My shrink reckons it's a combination of having to work with
JBG and withdrawal symptons from real Guinness ;-)
Hope this helps to clear things up !
Jerry.
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| 420.62 | Cruyff understands Gullit.... | UTROP1::HANSSEN_J | are you serious ? | Mon Aug 08 1994 15:20 | 13 |
| re .56
Cruyff said last week that he could understand the refusal of Gullit
very good. He stated that Gullit's judgement that the dutch didn't have
a good chance of getting champion was very good. And that's a very good
reason not to join it. He himself had done the same in 1978
(Argentina) for the same reason ( the dutch got second there ; remember
the ball from Rensenbrink on the post in the last minute at a score of
1-1.....). For the rest said Cruyff that it was a bad WC with average
teams and an average winner........Insiders claim that mr Cruyff wasn't
allow to go from his wife ; he had behaved badly in 1974.......but you
can imagine what kind of papers I red that.......
John
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| 420.63 | | UNTADE::TOP | | Mon Aug 08 1994 17:17 | 12 |
|
My first thought on this Gullit thing is "wot a self-important selfish prat
- he doesn't deserve to be even considered if he's got that kind of
attitude".
Then I thought, would I really have wanted to be selected for Graham
Taylors Engerland team? (answer, no) - then I had a bit of sympathy
for the guy.
I still think it's hard on the rest of the team when a player like
Gullitt drops out for purely (IMO) selfish reasons.
Al.
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| 420.64 | | YUPPY::ASHLEYSMITH | Kicker conspiracy | Tue Aug 23 1994 17:59 | 16 |
|
Did anyone notice as to whether John Motson had the opportunity to
come out with his famous post-World Cup comment, in his first commentary
match of the new season, which we all know is:
"Look at that! If that had been a Brazillian, we would have all said
what a marvellous piece of skill!"
Of course, if he had been in the hotel the other night watching those
two 100 metre sprinters scrapping, he would know doubt have said:
"Look at that! If that had been Eric Cantona, we would have all said
what a marvellous kick in the head!"
Andy
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| 420.65 | A Running Battle? | PAVONE::TURNER | | Tue Aug 23 1994 18:26 | 13 |
| re: .
>Of course, if he had been in the hotel the other night watching those
>two 100 metre sprinters scrapping, he would know doubt have said...
I know it's got s*d all to do with football, but can someone please
give me the details of this? I heard that one of the "contestants" was
a Nigerian (Adeniken?) - who was the other? I don't know whether I was
in London or Milan at the time, but I missed reading the newspapers in
both countries, so I only heard a very brief account.
Thanks,
Dom
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| 420.66 | | SHIPS::EDWARDS_D | | Tue Aug 23 1994 18:30 | 7 |
| re:-1
Dennis Mitchell was the other sprinter involved in the scuffle. He
claimed that Adeniken said something nasty about his mummy, so he and a
mate had a little chat with him - allegedly !
Dave
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| 420.67 | sacked | PCOJCT::MICEK | They're God's rock stars | Thu Aug 25 1994 04:42 | 13 |
| ...this just in from the world of American Football...
The New York Jets waived (sent home to mummy) former US soccer goalie
Tony Meola.
So, if any of you over in the UK need a slightly overweight,
pony-tailed keeper who can stop an occasional shot and will only cost
1/1000th the cost of Babb's eventual transfer fee, now's your chance of
a lifetime!
I'm sure he will be available for the next DEC five-a-side :)
Marc
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| 420.68 | | ISEPUB::CHAMPOLLION | Can-tas-tic | Thu Aug 25 1994 12:47 | 6 |
| Maradona: 15 month-ban and some money (80 K$ or something) for
allegedly taking forbidden medicine during the World Cup.
The end?
/JF
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| 420.69 | Forgot what I came here to say... | VARESE::SACHA::IDC_BSTR | Oh no! NOT Milan Kundera again! | Thu Jul 20 1995 16:20 | 1 |
| Hmm...
|