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Conference thebay::joyoflex

Title:The Joy of Lex
Notice:A Notes File even your grammar could love
Moderator:THEBAY::SYSTEM
Created:Fri Feb 28 1986
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1192
Total number of notes:42769

130.0. "Sick use of "[sic]"" by LEHIGH::CANTOR () Mon Dec 23 1985 20:49

"[Sic]" is usually used when quoting another to indicate that the error was
in the original.

I've noticed a few occurences in note files where people are using the notation
"[sic]" in their own *original* remarks, as though to say "I have intentionally
placed the preceding error here."  

Thoughts?  Observations?

Dave C.
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130.1BEING::POSTPISCHILMon Dec 23 1985 21:407
"Sic" can be used in normal, unquoted text.  Usually, it does not indicate an
intentional error, but an intentional non-error that might look like an error.
When in unquoted text, it is appropriate to use parentheses, not brackets,
unless there is another reason for using brackets.


				-- edp 
130.2SIVA::PARODIMon Dec 23 1985 21:506
Re: 130.1

Source please?  The Chicago Manual of Style makes no mention of your usage
of "sic."  It also says that "sic" goes in brackets, not parentheses.

JP
130.3AJAX::CALLASThu Jan 02 1986 20:2212
re .0:

People use "sic" that way because there are those who, through humorlessness or
zealous nit-picking (and generally both), will decide that the "error" is
legitimate and flood the writer's mailbox with smug little treatises on the
proper use or spelling of whatever it was that was in error. Just about anyone
who has a dry sense of humor has had this happen. Personally, I think one of the
intents of dry humor is that some people won't get it, so I try to avoid it when
possible. I'm not fond of the little :-) smiley faces either, but I've caved in
on that. 

	Jon
130.4VAXUUM::DYERFri Jan 24 1986 13:307
			I think "sic" is supposed to be italicized as well as
		put in brackets.
		   	I like to use it when paraphrasing people who use what I
	  	consider to be sexist language constructs, like this:  "Man
		[sic] and his [sic] mind have made this world a wonderful place
		for all mankind [sic]."
				<_Jym_>
130.5ERIE::CANTORFri Jan 24 1986 21:0615
Re .4

Yes, 'sic' should be italicized as well as enclosed within a pair of brackets,
      ---
but these two typographic conventions are for different reasons; viz., the

brackets indicate that the writer is inserting his (or her) own comments

into a quotation of someone else, while the italics indicate a word in a

foreign language.  



Dave C.
130.6DR::BLINNSun Jan 26 1986 23:1910
Perhaps we should resort to using "[_sic_]" in the noting convention of 
putting the underscores *around* something that we would prefer to 
underline but cannot actually underline due to the combined limitations 
of the hardware and software.  (Of course, we are using the convention 
of underlining material that would be italicized, but our hardware and 
software restricts us from doing that, as well.)

Does this mean that <_Jym_> should be read as <Jym>?  

Tom
130.7ERIE::CANTORMon Jan 27 1986 05:089
Not a bad convention, Tom.  I'll try to start italicizing-by-underlining-by-
surrounding-and-intermediate-underscores the common Latin and French words
and abbreviations I use; _e.g.,_ '_e.g._'

What's the convention for     ^ punctuation following an italicized-by-
underlining item?  Does the comma go before the terminal underscore, or
after it?

Dave C.
130.8English convention.IOSG::DEMORGANFri May 08 1987 10:194
    In English English, [sic] is used when quoting a piece of text written
    by someone else and points out a typographic error such as a mispelling
    or the use of a word that sounds the same as the correct word but
    is spelt differently. The word sic is, of course, Latin for thus.
130.9but why?REGENT::MERRILLGlyph, and the world glyphs with you.Tue May 12 1987 16:549
    It's used to show the original error either (a) when the original
    error created humor or misunderstanding or (b) by a hostile editor
    who want to show the mistakes in the original. Otherwise, a friendly editor
    would simply replace the mispelled word with the correct one in
    editorial brackets.                                         
    
    	Rick
    	Merrill
    
130.10Misspelled 'misspelled'DELNI::CANTORDave C.Wed Sep 02 1987 05:1410
      Re .8, .9

      'Mispelling' [_sic_] and 'mispelled' [_sic_] were misspelled.
      
      Re .9
      
      I believe there is a third reason: (c) when there is some reason
      why the original text, with its original mistakes, is desired.
      
      Dave C.